https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTeubeCIwRw
so do i buy some cheap intel cpu's to underclock?
>>101484935ha. old and busted. these dudes are on 5nm and fttd (fiber-to-the-device) with ISN bridging 15-qubit qpIntegrated Silicon NanophotonicsQuantum Processorsthey already abandoned the vonNeumann architecturem it's obvious with all the massive "AI" that still can't stop a gddm fin booscreen
>>101485005voltage dosen't seem to solve the issue any
>>101484935intelbenchod task force will be ITT in 10 minutes
>>101485005yes pls buy more intel
>>101485024have photonic chips actually been deployed in anything or is it just another graphene
>>101484935what is this shit? looks like these poojeet shill Youtubers like Moore's Law is Dead with fake leaks
>>101484935which chips are affected. is my 2019 macbook screwed
>>10148513913th and 14th gen raptor lake chips
>>10148514912th gen is okay?
>>101485169remains unnafected
>>101484935That's actually really bad
>>101484935So it's exactly like I said early on and got fired from Intel on. I told them that the electrons were jumping gaps.>Anon if that's the case we need to recall hundreds of thousands of chips and we're not going to do that. Just be quiet about it or you're fired. I proceeded to bring it up in a meeting when the asked and they said I was a sexist trying to hit on women at work and fired me. Watching them fail like this is cathartic. I made several threads about this here on /g/ and everyone here said I was just an AMD shill. I told everyone so! Now eat my ass. Hahahahahaha!!!!
>>101485139Yes but not because it's Intel.
>>101484935This is such obvious bullshit.Lead doesn't rust.
>>101485340Links to what you posted or your larping
>>101485391Anon that was 2 years ago. I don't care if you call it larping. I know I said it and that's enough for me. I noticed it under a microscope during the testing phase of 13th Gen and instead of listening to me, they moved the chip into production. >We can't wait, we have to bring this to market. I'm going to search my Google photos for the image I posted of the electrons jumping the gap though. Nobody listened then. Ignore all you want. I can't believe they didn't fix it in 14th gen though. I hope this cost them billions. Kiss my ass Kevin! I was right you self righteous douchenozzle!
>>101485435do you still have your blue/green badge?
>>101485435Do you remember uncommon phrases you used in the original post? I'm interested in finding and reading what you posted
>>101485340>and they said I was a sexist trying to hit on women at work and fired me.should've told them the truth about your homosexuality, would've saved your job
>>101484935>>101485149>>101485179but with these mitigations, does my 14900K still have higher cpu and memory frequency than the 12900K it replaced?>inb4 wasting moneymy 14900K cost me $300t. intel fab worker who is in no way surprised that their shit is coming out all fucked up
>>101485478The 12900k only boosts up to 5.2ghz while the 13900k/14900k needs to be underclocked to 5.3, I imagine they perform pretty similarly at those speeds Not sure about ram, I've seen conflicting reports.
>>101485391i work for intel and i believe him. the company is so disfunctional its not funny. their solution to every problem is hire more people. almost everyone is just some dude bro who has no tech skills.
>>101485478>my 14900KF
>>101485540i mostly just wanted the 8 additional e-cores of the 14900k, and the increased clock speeds are a bonus.so long as nothing is actually slower or a downgrade from the 12900K, Im happy. I run them a bit underclocked and watt limited anyway
>>101484935why did intel become so shit? they used to be world leaders decades ago
>>101484935Posts like these remind me of the antisemitic tropes used by the nazis, maybe cool down with these types of remarks and wait for Intel to give an official statement?
>>101485599It might not be a downgrade now but these chips are slowly converging on a 100% failure rate and you will probably notice more and more performance penalties as time passes.
>>101485603theyve gone stale
>>101485646>but these chips are slowly converging on a 100% failure rateKek, i dont think that is even remotely true
>>101484935/g/ doesn't understand hardware and real electrical engineering issues.
>>101485593F'ed right from birth
>>101485900Its notWendell's sample of 210 machines he looked at had 10-15% unusably degraded chips, 10% still pretty bad chips, 25% error-ing once a week chips and 50% that were okay
>>101485900datacenters are reporting 50% of their raptor lake chips have failed, it's really just a matter of time
>>101484935Anti-Semitism is NOT allowed on Youtube and that video has been reported for hate speech.
>>101485944You surely have a source for such a definitive claim?
>>101484935Just dip it in salted lemon juiceIt'll be okay
>>101485646God you people exaggerate everything.
>>101485961Nta https://youtu.be/PHEVezJHows?t=5856This is where I got >>101485941 from
>>101485900>>101485941>Over the last 3–4 months, we have observed that CPUs initially working well deteriorate over time, eventually failing. The failure rate we have observed from our own testing is nearly 100%, indicating it's only a matter of time before affected CPUs fail.https://alderongames.com/intel-crashes
>>101485998>from our own testing is nearly 100%That borders on "trust us bro" until they release the tool publicly
>>101484935AMD is really paying steve a lot eh?
>>101484935>53XThat's so funny to me.
>>101484935Its a feature to shorten the upgrade cycle and not a bug
>>101484935Is this why Crowdstrike's latest patch caused issues?
>>101486018Sure thing, Shlomo. They've released their data based on months of telemetry from both their own and end user systems, conducted before most people even knew the problem existed. Your deflection and denial tactics are rapidly running out of runway.
>>101484935I don't think you know what you are talking about and these processors do not crash. People are absolutely clueless about how to properly set up these Intel machines. I bought 14900k from an idiot for $50, he sold it saying it is crashing Happily running 5.8/4.6 with DDR5 8400, no issues. The processors are not an issue and motherboards are not an issue.The issue is that people put improper voltage for SA, VDDQ, VDD2, and Memory Voltage when enabling the XMP profile. There is no golden rule of how 13900k and 14900k work in this regard but there is a pattern. How wild it can get is an example of 13900k and 14900k have. 13900k requires 1.25+v for SA depending on Memory Speed whereas 14900k for the same memory speed runs SA at 1.140v. 99% of people out there would not know about it. Many people do not mess with SA, VDDQ, or VDD2 as they leave it auto, and motherboard manufacturers do not put correct values there because it is impossible. Every silicon is a bit different. If you know what you are doing 14900k is capable of running DDR5 8400 tuned for low latency. Incorrect SA voltage (for example) does not necessarily show the problem, crashing can start after a week of what seems to be a stable system at first.It does not matter how low the memory speed you set, if your SA, VDDQ, or VDD2 voltage for a particular CPU is incorrect you are toast.In short. For every Intel platform SAVVDDQ/VDD2 voltages have to be set manually and that voltage will be different for each CPU even though you are on the same motherboard. 13900k/14900k is not for everyone, so if you don't know what you are doing get AMD but if you know the performance you can extract out of these CPUs make AMD look like a joke.
Are non-K chips alright?
>>101486162Nope. 13700, 13900, 14700 and 14900 use the same silicon as their K versions
I am a fab worker at Intel in the ALD department. ama
>>101486217Are many of employees at the existing fabs going to be transfered to the new 18A fabs?
>>101486158i dont want to have to tune a cpu just to get it to run at stock speeds
>>101486217Are you the only white male in a team of fat black women?
>>101484935Being an AMD fanboi the past 5 years has really paid off.Sure they aren't the best, and sure they don't have 5000 estrogen cores.. but my 5950X is still kicking ass.
>>101484935tired of seeing this fucking faggot. GN is gonna slip up soon enough. Just like the old shit channel that Wendel was on.
>>101485340Speedholes 2: the return
>>101486235yes but it wont be for a couple more years. theres lots of volunteers of people who want to move to be closer to family (most workers are from out of state), take advantage of the lower cost of living, and other reasons.Intel aggressively recruits from the entire country so you can bet on them also hiring and moving people there, so theres not a reliance on mostly hiring locals.
>>101486184>13700, 13900, 14700 and 14900 use the same silicon as their K versionsOh shid. How long until my PC dies then?
>>101486244my team is pretty diverse but theyre also mostly ex military. there are a couple of black women that are actually from africa. theyre not fat.
>>101486217Is this fault something that should have been found during aging/burn-in tests?
>>101486322Not that soon since 13700 stock clocks and voltages are very conservative. E.g. only the worst 10-15% of 14700Ks need more than 1.4v for their 1T boost.13700 has lower clocks and presumably lower voltages so it will stick around for longer It's really the i9s that are well into the danger zone of need 1.4v (1% golden samples) to 1.55v (typical marginally binned samples)
>>101486387Very detailed anon, thank you so much!
>>101486376not my department.there is zero cross training of departments. they dont even want us talking to other departments. its to protect their secrets. everyone knows their little slice and no more
>>101486564do you guys have labs where you validate chips in the long term?
>>101486217What is the general sentiment amongst the employees about the state of the company? The tech press seems dead set against intel, and have been calling for their demise for over a decade. Has that affected morale?
>>101485599Sorry you got a worse cpu than 12 series mate. You can likely get a used 12 series for cheap though.
>>101486707All of them lag outside of games & rendering Intel peaked at 10th gen and its been downhill since>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ot96M9RM6o
AMD stock peddlers getting desperate day by day as Q2 earnings will expose their fraud mi300 "better than h100" chips will have secured zero orders and the stock plummets. Thats why the gorilla marketing team is in overdrive to try to re orient the company image back into consumer side
>>101486289Wendells prior channel had nothing to do with him really. I recall at the time that a good chunk of that channel wanted wendell to start his own thing which he eventually did after some time.
>>101486273I've been with AMD ever since I got a Pentium D which was quite disappointing.
>>101486273my 5700x3d is quite a nice processor and dosen't thermal throttle in my itx system
>>101484935Between this and arrow lake launch 4 months after new Ryzen gen means it really is over. Can this all be traced back to overhiring the jeets?
It's over
>All the replacement work laptops I've just bought will be fuckedNo wonder why Dell gave me such a good deal. Let's hope they fail within warranty.
>>101485139Yes but because you haven't upgraded to Apple silicon yet
>>101484935oy vey I demand this antisemitic information be taken down!
>>101486158Stop posting this in every thread Intel shill
Are the laptop chips manufactured the same way as the desktop chips? Is it possible they are effected?
>>101486158Your behind shill-kun. Voltages are not the issue, it is leaning towards a fabrication error and oxidation. Tinkering with voltages only delays the inevitable.
>>101486158>The issue is that people put improper voltage for SA, VDDQ, VDD2, and Memory Voltage when enabling the XMP profile. There is no golden rule of how 13900k and 14900k work in this regard but there is a pattern. How wild it can get is an example of 13900k and 14900k have. 13900k requires 1.25+v for SA depending on Memory Speed whereas 14900k for the same memory speed runs SA at 1.140v. 99% of people out there would not know about it. Many people do not mess with SA, VDDQ, or VDD2 as they leave it auto, and motherboard manufacturers do not put correct values there because it is impossible. Every silicon is a bit different. If you know what you are doing 14900k is capable of running DDR5 8400 tuned for low latency. Incorrect SA voltage (for example) does not necessarily show the problem, crashing can start after a week of what seems to be a stable system at firstNigger I am not doing all that shit just to have a working CPU I am installing it in the motherboard, putting the heatsink/radiator on and enabling XMP and calling it a dayt. 5800x3d user
>>101486158>the motherboards aren't the problem>but the values aren't correctyeah we get it, you're a retard
>>101488887>enabling XMPF
>>101486158this is copypasta lol>>101488887>t. 5800x3d useri hope you don't have gigabyte
>>101489649For better or worse I do, I built it in 2017 using a 2700X and the X470 gaming 7 whatever board from Gigabyte. The only issues I ever had with it was trying to run Windows 7 on it which would blue screen at random.
>>101489671nah it's fine but you should lower Vsoc from 1.2 V because it's far too high and probably degrading your CPU at a faster rate than normal1.1 V should be enough
https://x.com/Buildzoid1/status/1814520745810100666
It had to be a manufacturing degradation error but I don't like that Intel won't admit it
>>101490038>Also this this system isn't stable. So getting the voltage readings from it is kinda hard since it keeps crashing.this shitstorm has been so fucking funny
Who cares? Intel has such incidents like this baked into their business model
Imagine if AMD had a 5% failure rate let alone 15~50% intelaviv has
>>101490060They're probably scrambling to find out how much of the product is affected, date ranges etc if its fixable with microcode or requires a product recall (significant) and whether freshly made processors are also affected
Reminder that parallelism beats monoliths.
>>101485554The first letter of every sentence is to be capitalized when you're writing in English.
>>101490082AMD wouldn't try to bin them as normal sku's like Intel, they'd clock them as low as possible as a budget sku and sell them for basically cost. this is entirely self inflicted by Intel.
>>101484935what does "lead claims" even mean, that phrase sounds weird
>>101490190ESL monkey
>>101490195it just makes no sense you circumcised jewish puppet
>Kicks off video with "We Can't Recommend Intel CPUs Right Now"Finished Company
>>101490202ESL Monkey
>>101490211people havent been reccing intel for years now for gaming, doesnt seem to impact intels bottom line much
>>101490224
>>101490231Seething ESL monkey
>>101490241
>>101490248ESL
>>101490190Do you know what a lead is
>>101490265
>>101490265yes? but in this context it makes no sense
>>101490278>>101490279Fucking ESLsA lead in this context is a contact at another party that is giving information/experience to the person asking
>>101490297should we go to every esls home and shoot them dead?
>>101490297it still makes no sense
>Doesn't know what a lead is>There's a thread with a poojeet child asking how to get his parents to buy him a new phoneI think I prefer chat bots
>>101490323Holy fuck you're retarded, here have one the most common uses of it in modern English>The Police have found a lead that supposedly has information on the break in that occurred yesterday
>>101490361and? that's different context
>>101490297>trying to teach ESLs>thinking they can learn lol
>>101490522this post sure is ironic on multiple levels
>>101486273You don't even need to be an AMD fanboy, it's retarded to be a fan of either company but the fact is for the last 4 years AMD has made the better CPUs, as soon as Intel gets its shit together it won't matter about any of these mistakes, what matters is the better product right now
>>101485435>you noticed electrons jumping gates in a microscopeyeah you're larping
>>101490601>as soon as Intel gets its shit togetherThat would require no longer catering to incompetent developers who don't know how multithreading works: >>101490091I still hear people complaining about having to develop for the PS3.
>>101484935intel foundry business looking great bros
>>101490091modern processors already ship with multiple pseudocores, monocore processors died like over 15 years ago
>>101490679You mean the crapshoot that is Hyperthreading? Yeah, don't care. Intel has always catered much more towards single-threaded performance, what with branch prediction, out-of-order, and speculative execution.
>>101484935I own a 13900K made in Vietnam, 2022 Week 43. How fucked am I?
>>101490832Half fucked?My week 49 2022 13900ks would probably be in the 25% bucket of CPUs that generate errors but is acceptable for desktop use.
>>101484935Intel running their own fabs has been a disaster, they should use TSMC like everyone else.
>>101490069Just overvolt to 1.6v lol
>>1014903494chan is an Indian site
>>101486889>my 5700x3d is quite a nice processor and dosen't thermal throttle in my itx systemwhat case and fan? I'm using metalfish s3 with that thin noctua one, I wonder if I can put a 5700x in it
>>101485603DEI Hires
>>101486096No thats a separate issue. Its caused by IT retards putting a rootkit on enterprise machines
>>101489649Im a different anon but whats wrong with gigabyte? Ive been using the 5800X3D with a B550 Master with no issue
>>101486086wait, is this electromigration?
>>101491233And then what happens if literally anything goes wrong at TSMC. Fuck the war bullshit for a second, what if a natural disaster obliterated the plant? What if a commie coup takes over and nationalizes the plant? What if it just plain product degrades over time like with what happened with Intel? Now they have ZERO competition and everyone who isn’t working for them forgot how to make chips and half of the people there probably also forgot. High performance Silicon is too important to literally only have a single group of Taiwanese bugs be the ones who know how to make them
>>101488466>Are the laptop chips manufactured the same way as the desktop chips?I had some issues on a laptop I recently purchased. I eventually just returned it and bought one of the newish amd 8k series models with the 800 whatever GPU. The intel one would give me bsod intermittently on win11 that came preinstalled. I went to revert to windows 10 and it started shitting itself even more.
>>101490639If you don't understand what I'm saying then just admit it. The field on the electrons is larger in testing situations and Intel has very good microscopes.
>>101492252Which block exhibited the issue? soc interconnect? cores? SA?
>>101484935Hedge funds: You didn't build them cheap enough! 35% failure rate is perfectly acceptable for goyim
>>101485603Decades have passed
stop it with the antisemitism
>>101490101>write proper english in an informal settingare you one of the faggots that talk formal when chilling with mates too as if you're writing an essay?
>>101490195
>>101490297love it when stupid mutts think esl is an insult
>>101492568Love it when you're insecure enough to post a reply
>>101491313saaars are the moot now bloody bastard
>>101485024>Barely intelligible drivel about photonics and QC.Lol. lmao even.
>>101492579glad to be of service muttbro. Here's another (you) for providing my Sat entertainment
>>101492650You should also stop letting the Americans live rent free in your head especially considering I'm not from there, dumbass.
>>101492482Yes
>>101492568OK, ESL.>t. ESL
>>101490305It would be a start. Third worlders have ruined the internet in ways corporations could only dream.
>>101493178>Third worlders have ruined the internetBullshit. They make you seethe, and that's what I live for.
>>101492884>No period.Anon, you had one fucking job.
