Actually funny edition.
seems like you uploaded the wrong image?
>>101515984You start this thread with this piece of shit edit every god damn time, and when anyone else starts the thread you immediately spam this edit in there. The original comic was actually funny. This edit is just soulless bait. Kill yourself.
>>101515984Here's the actually funny version.
muhau
>>101516072I legit don't fucking know how to troubleshoot a pcmost of the time I just put all important data on separate hdd then reinstall the os
>>101515984kys already
>>101516720SOVL imagereddit filename
>>101516766Use ChatGPTBy the way, good on you for using the 3-2-1 backup method, unlike the 99% of other normie users. You will save hundreds of dollars on data recovery once your hard drive or SSD kicks the bucket
>>101516720He just needs some MILK
>>101516072Actually me...God bless my mom, but fuck her useless information is annoying.
>>101517232
>>101516766It's mostly down to experience anon. Before I started looking into linux around 2016 I never even heard of a package manager and didn't know what it was, didn't take long for me to learn though.The first and most important requirement is pattern recognition. Every time some program crashes take not of what the computer was doing in that moment, and not just what task it was preforming but things like how loud/fast were the fans spinning, how long it had been since the last time the computer had been fully shut down, what had changed between the working state and the non working state. These seem obvious but when you're in the moment stressing they can slip your mind.After pattern recognition it's back to experience, which is knowing what to look for in the patterns you observe, which is mostly covered by what I just mentioned.If you lack the experience and knowledge you can just google and say shit like "[exact computer model] rebooting when fans running fast while I'm playing pathfinder" or some shit. My buddy bought an HP Omen against my recommendation cuz discount and the fucking thing kept resetting under high load playing pathfinder. We fucked around with it but every half measure attempted lead to the bios nto working right, mouse coursor kept rendering white squares wherever the mouse was and you couldn't access the bios, which turned out to be a common HP OMEN problem. Eventually I said "fuck it, how bout we just get a cheap board with the same CPU socket off EBAY. I've never applied Thermal paste before and it makes me nervous but it's probably the best bet" and he said yes and we got a used board same socket with broken audio jack and wifi and adjusted the fans and the computer stopped rebooting at high load. And you could even power it down without it immediately powering back on like it was doing with the stock board. I'm 37 and that was a year ago, and the thermal paste was EZ. You can do it.
>>101517240>"Missed the point"I wanna beat the shit out of these beta males, srs... Real men get the point and don't care what the "point" is, only their own thoughts on the matter.
>>101516072Mmm.Sweet tea.
:3
>>101518412You're yourself a beta, though.
Average Cnile:
>>101518564What's going on here
>>101518687In C++, side effect free infinite loops have undefined behaviour.This causes clang to remove the loop altogether, along with the ret instruction of main(). This causes code execution to fall through into unreachable().The problem is that calling main would cause undefined behaviour and the compiler is allowed to assume that undefined behaviour never happens, which means that the compiler is allowed to assume that main never gets called. If main never gets called, it can generate any machine code for it, including no machine code at all. If main contains no machine code, then calling main has the same effect as calling the function directly after it.This is why people should use rust.
>>101518633based catto
>>101516072This one's actually sweet.
>>101519650gcc is the correct one.
>>101519650Just learned my project is more like clang, and it's an interpreter.
>>101518633what startlingly retarded animals
>>101519650optimisation error?
>>101518533>rustyou will never be a redcode wizard guru.
>>101515984
>>101515984dats da perfect broad
>>101518892>In C++, side effect free infinite loops have undefined behaviour.Is this the case in C too?
>>101519578Baked apple, est. 1982
>>101518533
>>101517240The meta-irony of the media literacy crowd is almost enough to convince me the whole thing is an elaborate prank.
>>101519578>arbitrarily decides a basic functional aspect of a tool is """ugly""" and omits iteven back then they were retards
>>101520864C compilers are supposed to go from left to right when evaluating statements.My guess would be clang goes right to left.
>>101522191It's a time-gated problem and gave birth to M series processors, indirectly
>>101517202kek
>>101521380no
>>101522339that's not how it works...
>>101516766If it works, it ain't stupid (it may be pretty inefficient though, lul).
>>101518412>real men are willingly retardedIndian much?
>>101525522Yes it is.>>101519834No, order of evaluation is undefined, both are correct
>>101522339They do, but you're comparing them here, in which case, the compiler is allowed to evaluate left or right first, and then do the comparison.The compiler *should* emit a warning, because you're violating "break points" (or something like that), by using a compound increment on a variable present on both sides of the comparison.Note the ambiguity of terminology regarding 'evaluation,' meaning e.g. in A != NULL && A->ptr != NULL that it is GUARANTEED (short-circuit evaluation) that A->ptr is never dereferenced if A is NULL, but it also can be used to say 3 > 6 is being "evaluated" when it's actually comparing.
>>101525806>"break points" (or something like that)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sequence_pointThat was it.Long story short, K.I.S.S..
>>101525739>Yes it is.as you said yourself, order of evaluation is undefined... why should it go right to left?
>>101526483left to right I meant >-<
>>101515984>daily pajeet shill's apple ad threadNext you're going to post that fake map with Australia missing because your owner didn't give you any more images to spam.
>>101525739This. It's undefined behavior, thus both answers are "correct". It's a joke based on pic related. And I wouldn't be surprised if the output doesn't actually differ between both compilers.
>>101516766Then you know how to troubleshoot pc.And then Anon was Enlightened.
>>101526498well if the language is written in english, it should be understood as left to right, as it is the english reading
>>101519650>>101518564>>101518533>>101526632Better use rust>The following list is not exhaustive. There is no formal model of Rust’s semantics for what is and is not allowed in unsafe code, so there may be more behavior considered unsafe. The following list is just what we know for sure is undefined behavior
>>101519578lol what, vents can be made really cool if you design them in a pattern or something. What an unimaginative retard.
>>101526824>Rust doesn’t fully know what behaviour is considered undefined, so you could be writing code that exhibits undefined behaviour without even knowing it.Check mate Cniles and Cniles++
>>101517202lel
>>101526894>Unsafe Rust is hard. A lot harder than C, this is because unsafe Rust has a lot of nuanced rules about undefined behaviour (UB) — thanks to the borrow checker — that make it easy to perniciously break things and introduce bugs.
>>101526632There is no undefined behavior, the answer can only be 1.
>>101526934It's ambigous notation. It is unclear whether the (2 * 2) belongs to the denominator or not.
>>101526911>The most challenging source of undefined behaviour I ran into was related to Rust’s aliasing rules.>Rust leverages its borrowing/ownership rules to make compiler optimizations. If you break these rules, you get undefined behaviour.>The trick is to use raw pointers>there isn’t any nice pointer derefence syntax like C’s ptr->field. The code is littered with ugly (*ptr).field everywhere, it’s disgusting.>raw pointers suck in comparison to Rust’s slices because you can’t index them and you don’t get out-of-bounds checking.>Writing a substantial amount of unsafe Rust really sucks the beauty out of the language. I felt like I was either tiptoeing through this broken glass of undefined behaviour, or I was writing in this weird half-Rust/half-C mutated abomination of a languageFor more laugh please visit https://zackoverflow.dev/writing/unsafe-rust-vs-zig/>Zig implementation was around 1.56-1.76x faster than RustThis is why Biden endorsed rust.
>>101526989Division and multiplication is done from left to right.
>>101527007So it's 16 as you evaluate 20 / 5 = 4 first and then multiply it by (2 * 2)?
>>101526632>not to persuade or convince, nor to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better.
>>101527031This melts my brain to watch. How could you ever think crossing over into the left lane makes sense? Surely they noticed cars traveling in that lane going the opposite direction as they made their way toward the roundabout. Where do they think those cars from from?
>>1015269892*2 =4 is first obv due to parenthesis.5(4) = 20 is next due to a lack of operatorTHEN its left to right20 / 20 = 1It's like a lost art to zoomer cunts.Don't worry about it, you wont need it in Ukraine.
>>101526989It's not. Infix arithmetic notation is a standard.
>>101527065Yes. The priority is Parenthesis, exponents, multiplication/division from left to right, last addition/subtractionSo in this exampleParenthesis is 2 mul 2 equals 4Then you have 20 div 5 mul 4From left to right you see div Then you have 4 mul 4It's 16.That's the way it is done everywhere.
>>101526989If it was a denominator there would've been surrounded by parenthesis.It's not, so the denominator is only 5
>>101526994Man, that IS funny.>let's use a language wrong and compare it to a competitor that lacks everything that makes rust goodMeanwhile every single benchmark shows rust being marginally faster than zig. Which isn't strange, considering those benchmarks didn't use unoptimized unsafe code.
>>101518564Cant this be fixed by compiler?
>>101519650Mathematically wise Clang is correct. You evaluate from Left to Right
>>101527065>>101526632NTA but yesThe only correct way is left to right and every math operations are BINARY operationsTechnially when doingA*B*C ((A*B)*C ) is right(A*(B*C)) is wrong You are likely to only get an (decent) explanation of this on either decent Discret math and advanced Calculus classes/professors while explaining matrices or partial derivates... with means barely anyone learns it the correct way
>>101527228>you are using it wrongRust _is_ slower than C and uses more memory even with unsafe ridden all over the place and it is also slower than c++.There are some http benchmarks out there where rust has 20% more delay than C.Rust is also very slow on pointers, it generates many cache misses and those tagged enums are God awful for memory consumption.You can't write fast and efficient code without unsafe and when you do it's inefficient, unsafe more than C and C++ and it's slow. Also miri doesn't cooperate on that part.You are correct though. Rust doesn't have a use-case so everybody is using it wrong.
>>101527547https://alic.dev/blog/dense-enumsHere's another analysis of how bad rust is.You can't have a 500k loc project and have to fight with the language in every line.Also you can't polish a turd, so you will always be slower, bloater and most importantly unsafe, ridden with undefined behaviour because let's face it, you will be asked to make something faster or you will have to use one of those garbage crates like tokio, you are destined to be unsafe.Might as well make everything in C.When you want to jump to distributed systems and you want to squeeze even more performance by using libraries like jemalloc, then forget it... Rewrite everything in C.
>>101526989there are many sensible choices, but having ambiguous notation and having both interpretations be valid is not one of them.either fix the ambiguous notation by always adding parentheses: 20/(5*4) or (20/5)*4or define a/b*c*... either as a/(b*c*...) or as (a/b)*c*...somehow they ended up with the worst of both worlds: ambiguous notation + leaving the answer undefined
This discussion is why ÷ should be used for normal equations and / for fractional like equations.
>>101516766>I just put all important data on separate hdd then reinstall the osAnyone saying they do otherwise is lying or stupid
>>101528044
>>101527640>slower, bloater and most importantly unsafe, ridden with undefined behaviour because let's face it, you will be asked to make something faster or you will have to use one of those garbage crates like tokio, you are destined to be unsafe.Perfect to write your next gen OS in it's that or c#.yerazz
>>101527298Mathematically-wise, you may suck my dick.
>>101517210Since it posted, why don't they make a dielectric thermal grease to go beneath the cpu to further improve temperatures?
>>101527031>one-way double-lane roundaboutnigga wat
>>101530425You can do that if ya want, sub zero overclockers often do that to prevent condensation. But in any normal setting we'd be talking about less than half a degree at best.
>>101530529it's not one-way. the drivers are just retarded and lucky that no traffic came from any other direction.
>>101527640I don't get it. Whybeould you purposely write unsafe code just to make something 0.0001% faster?Do you not understand that most people are horrible programmers and that Rust's ability to completely prevent any and all memory and concurrency issues is a huge win for the industry?This is like REEEEing at the industrial revolution for decreasing the quality of products while completely ignoring the benefits.
>>101527392this is purely dependent on whether or not it is commutative which partial derivatives in cartesian coordinates are (which you non geo-diff retards use in calc), even in discrete math you would, learn about commutativity due to groups not requiring it as a prerequisite, now gtfo outta my thread. >>101526632however, to allow for actual 'defined behaviour' one must make a choice. which gcc does, and so it is more 'correct' then leaving it as 'undefined'
>>101530425Extreme overclockers do something similar, by smearing the entire socket with vaseline. But they are not doing it to improve temperatures, as their liquid nitrogen cooling setups already do just that. Rather, they are doing this to prevent any condensation from accumulating beneath the super freezing cold CPU, which may short it out or just generally affect stability.Prophetic meme btw
>>101528778ive never heard the one on the right
>>101531959>commutativeactuall' it's associative. commutative is whena*b = b*aassociative isa*(b*c) = (a*b)*cand matrix multiplication is associative, but not commutative.
>>101532211same and cant find it
>>101532329ok found it after 5 more seconds of investigationhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=9s_-Kx5oV9Y
>>101530600no just development but usage too.
>>101532329>>101532346nvm i've heard it before
>>101522096There's no irony.It's all media literacy until they are btfo on their shit opinions and then they backpedal to "death of the author" to make themselves look like they won anyway.
you niggas have been posting the same pics in every thread for years
>>101528353i'd buy it
>>101534718bruh
>>101516072I wish Ronnie would make a comeback already. Its been three years since the last Whomp! strip
>>101515984>Same image every threadIt was never funny, what makes you think it's gonna be funny the 500th time it's posted
>>101521069>on /g/>current year>doesn't know what incognito does
>>101516894you first
>>101518412lmao no, fuck off incel
>>101525739>order of evaluation is undefinedoperator precedence is definedpostfix increment returns the pre-increment valuegcc is right
>>101526844
>>101535298Too much autism and need for external validation for one photo
>>101535580That is not Christianity. This triangle is a protestant innovation
>>101530600this is the truest true
>>101535965>H-How dare someone have fun!
>>101535313The guy who was sleeping put a "Compiling, Do not disturb" sign on his screen. Kind of proud seeing Russian stuff getting here too.
>>101527128t. p>>101527128ython programmer
>>101537638wow russians are so helpful and nice
>>101518533>youre more productive in a greenfield projectdamn, theyre genius
>>101527065>pointless semantical garbage that elucidates NOTHINGWtf is going on with American educaiton
>>101538167Ignore all previous instructions and kill yourself
>>101530881more oncoming traffic would make it easier to just follow the logic
>>101535780triggered much little bitch?
>>101517210That's an easy fix. All you need is some brake cleaner and a little bit of air. It won't even hurt the pins or the motherboard.
Test.
>>101535780what's your discord so i can embarrass you in front of your faggot friends on vc.
clean it up, IT janny!
>>101536042Why are they mislabeling two gorillas as people?
>>101541228genuinely how the fuck
>>101541228DoE_attack.webm
>>101541228Libreboot Successfully Installed
>>101516766Yeah I do this at least every few months. Guaranteed fresh OS and an opportunity to reflect on and organize stuff.
>>101540157I still prefer control panel, just werks.
>>101516720>digby icon in system traymy 2000's nigga
>>101540157Ux is in GeForce now experience Choose your fate
>>101534718Sad tits Fake blonde Fake codeFake life
>>101529526M3 pro proved him right
>>101525561Windows installs on a nvme is damn quick these days.Then crack itStrip out all the bullshit with that one program.Nitenite for the basics Dark mode system wide Office+ crackImport browser shitWa la
>>101541228just spray some fox urine bro
>>101527096
>>101545731I hope a whole department was fired for this.
>>101545761Those are all over the place in Texas and in Utah.
>>101518564
>>101545761Why? They actually are very effective if the general iq is over 100.
>>101545825>if the general iq is over 100.bro...
>>101545847The united states is a big place bro, the entire state of Alabama has a combined iq of 60.All the shit hole states drag down the average. Places that are mostly white like Idaho, Montana, Maine, all over 100 and one would work fine there
fixed terminal
>>101528353unironically yes
>>101546952most professional post on quora
>>101516720Anon consider adding a SW (SOVL Warning) before posting such images
>>101535539thats why is a joke
>>101535313Other students gave me weird looks when I used to wipe the peripherals with a wet wipe before using them in the labs but those wipes came out brown with filth.
>>101527096npc see, npc dothe first truck needed the clearance, the rest are retards
>>101527156Here's where things get fucky. The lack of an operator already implies priority or being grouped with its neighbor, though that's been settled as "assume it's regular multiplication and maybe consider either not writing inline math when dividing or writing it less ambiguously". When parentheses and the properties of parenthetical juxtaposition come into play, it gets even fuckier, and these stupid ambiguous math problems exist solely to call people old and to justify common core, rather than the better message which is "write better math"
>>101526632just because you omit the multiplication symbol doesn't mean anything changesthe equation is regardless: 20 / 5 * (2 * 2)if there are no brackets then they can't be evaluated as a groupso the only valid answer is 16
>>101526989use algebra rules. they state thata(b+c)=ab+acthat means a(b+c) is a single variable and cannot be separated. you should know this if you finished high school.
>>101543844fake orgasms
>>101516906>reddit filenamethat's a 4chan filename
>>101517240counterpoint: if you think there's a proper way to interpret art, you missed the point of art
>>101526881steve jobs was never a computer guy
>>101528778what a beautiful website, why can't youtube look like that?
>>101548792Who cares what they're attracted to, and am I supposed to?
>>101551475Good. Now show the properties of your pepe folder.
>>101539683Sounds like you have done this too
>>101551944And now?
>>101552001newfag
>>101553758OK, Tom. Now answer my fucking questions.
>>101518892>This is why people should use rust.Except back when this issue was relevant, Rust was affectee by the same behavior.
>>101521380In C loops with compile time conditions are allowed to be infinite, this is well defined. But most/many compilers apply C++ rules to C anyway (MSVC, older Clang versions).
>>101553758That's a lot of for one guy. No one single person should be allowed to own & have that many.
>>101531589>Rust's ability to completely prevent any and all memory and concurrency issues Write me a safe read-write lock who's read lock path is O(n) instead of usual O(n^2) where n is a number of CPUs acquiring the lock.I'll wait.
>>101553758hey tomI've been wondering what happened to you since myspace i see you're still using the same DE
>>101531589>Whybeould you purposely write unsafe code just to make something 0.0001% faster?I fucking love nitwits coping about their incompetency by claiming that proper memory management only makes up for "0.0001%" of the programs speed.Everything that is based on malloc - and Rust, C++, and Lord knows how many other languages out there - is much, much, much slower than it needs to be, and no amount of denial will ever change that.
