>not including the Networking in the title
faggot

Describe your racks

>>101520985
C cup

>>101520752
Need multiple SATA ports. Is it better to buy one card that can accommodate a lot of ports or by two cards? I'm assuming a lot of ports in one card diminishes the speed of the drives.

>>101520823
>>101520522
why truenas tho? it would strangle that old pc. just throw a headless distro with or without OMV on top.

>>101521080
i dont know, fist thing that popped up when googling what os to use for file storage server

>>101520966
But then would be /hsgn/

>>101520926
>not including the Networking in the title
Based.

>>101521040
Calculate the PCI Express lanes used and the speed of those lanes for PHY bandwidth available.

>>101521080
Retarded suggestion, given how TrueNAS at least has some kind of enterprise support available from iX systems, but OMV does not.
(This is not a shill post for TrueNAS, it's still not truly enterprise grade.)

I recently bought 8 16TB drives, in preparation for converting my current setup into a server (with an AMD 5600x and an hba to get enough sata ports). I am also planning to buy 2 2TB ssds for caching (to be run in raid 0). What drive topology would you guys recommend? I was planning on just doing RAID 6, but thought it might not be redundant enough. Would be open to using up to half the drives as backup/redundancy.

>>101521898
raid 1, not raid 0

>>101521898
HDDs? Always RAID10. ZFS RAID-Z2 small read speeds are abysmal.

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What are you guys serving behind a reverse proxy? All I have is Plex.

>>101521938
Why RAID 10? Do I even need cache drives at that point?

>>101522000
It's the most performant drive topology for mechanical spinning rust media. Cache or not.

>>101522070
By most performant, I meant performant and fault tolerant.

>>101521872
>Calculate the PCI Express lanes used and the speed of those lanes for PHY bandwidth available.
How do I do that?

>>101521682
which one

>>101522189
Take the electrical PCI Express width of the HBA add-in card (e.g. x4, x8, x16).
See your motherboard / CPU for the available PCI Express generation and lanes on board.
Look up the maximum bandwidth available for that lane width and generation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express#Comparison_table
Add the sum of drive speeds anticipated and compare to available PHY bandwidth from the table, or alternatively divide that table's bandwidth number by the number of drives you want to use to get bandwidth available per drive.

Example, LSI SAS 9201-16i:
>16 internal 6Gb/s SAS+SATA ports
>8 lanes, PCI Express 2.0
PCI Express 2.0 x8 throughput = 4.000 GB/s.
Divided by 16 drives = 250 MB/s per drive.
Good enough for most HDDs (100-150 MB/s), too slow for most SATA SSDs.

>PCI Express to Hell
https://files.catbox.moe/id6o0n.pdf

>>101522358
Cool. Thanks.

>>101522358
What makes some of this difficult is that most mobo maunals are terrible these days. Bare minimum of information. And similar with peripherals.

>>101522763
>most mobo manuals
Sounds like you had bad motherboards.

https://www.dell.com/support/manuals/en-sg/poweredge-r730/r730_ompublication/expansion-card-installation-guidelines?guid=guid-48fdcedc-e689-4cb6-a83c-7b9ea4e31449&lang=en-us
https://www.dell.com/support/manuals/en-sg/poweredge-r740/per740_techspecs_pub/expansion-bus-specifications?guid=guid-980ac5b8-ef7d-4759-8956-82c2aba9002a&lang=en-us

>>101522822
You could be right.

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what's the simplest nrv software?
It's for 2 cameras for my parents. frigate seems a bit complicated.

>>101522877
try zoneminder

>>101522877
>frigate seems a bit complicated.
doesnt get more simple than frigate. its just a config file.

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>>101523568
windows software is simpler. i can't run required version of windows on the terminal, otherwise i would be using it

>>101520926
Does anyone know if i will ever be able again to get a n100 for like $100? Also, recs for alternatives to it? I have never he>>101520926
ard of AMD mini PCs lol

>>101523753
>have never heard of AMD mini PCs

https://www.servethehome.com/hp-t740-thin-client-review-tinyminimicro-with-pcie-slot-amd-ryzen/

>>101523820
a lot of terminals have weird issues. ubuntu doesn't want to install on my IGEL M350C with Ryzen R1505G.

wyse 3040 had a non standard character in the name of the drive which broke a lot of linux installers.

I had more of them, all with little annoying problems

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>>101521898
https://calomel.org/zfs_raid_speed_capacity.html
Let the knowledge flow through you like so much radioactive wind and jew jokes.

>>101524957
> Raid 10 's advantage is reading data is fast. The disadvantages are the writes are slow (multiple mirrors)
???????

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what about pico psus?

>>101521976
literally every single one of my services..? there's no reason not to serve everything behind ssl. its dead simple.

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>Come home
>Tranny is frozen and NFS is down
>Check disks and FS
>everything is okay
>Check logs
>nothing
>try to restart services
>hangs while stopping services
>Try to apply an update since I have to reboot anyway
>DNF hangs at the end for no reason , says transaction fails even though it didn't and reinstall failed package worked fine
>Reboot and nothing not even the firewall VM is working
>Headless so without networking can't see what's wrong
>Restart it multiple times and give it 10 minutes for the networking to come up
>hook up monitor to observe the boot process
>no video output
>Open up case to look for problems
>nothing at all everything looks great
>do nothing and put the case back together
>Try booting it again out of desperation
>video output works fine
>OS boots fine
>All VMS , containers and services come up in less then 3 minutes
>Every thing is working 100% perfectly

The worst part is I have no idea at all why it became unstable or why it wouldn't boot temporary .
This is my first and last MOBO I buy from mainland China

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>>101525362
Give it some thought anon
>[DATA] is the thing you need
>to write [DATA] to a stripped mirror, a copy of [DATA] must be written to each mirror, which is capped at the write speed of the mirror in question (2 drives)
>to access [DATA] from a stipped mirror, you can searc for [D] on one mirror, [AT] on another, and [A] on another, all at the same time. The speed to read what you want isn't limited to how fast a mirror can read [DATA], but how fast any given mirror can read just a fraction of what you need [D, AT or A].
As these pieces of [DATA] are being read simultaneously, it is many times faster to read [DATA] from the array than it is to write [DATA] to the array.

>>101526914
You misunderstood. I'm questioning the "writes are slow." That's bullshit, the data is still being striped. Yes, it's not as fast as striping across all the drives, but it's wrong to call it "slow" imo.

>>101527019
Maybe they mean its writes are slow compared to the read speed of the same pool? I don't think they would imply that stripping across all drives is a viable choice to be considered by comparing raid10 write speed to it, that would be dangerous to suggest.

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Chat, I have much to do.
>order and replace a HBA in my server with a RAID card for Windows Server 2019
>install Windows Server 2019 Core with Hyper-V Role (replace Proxmox VE)
>setup Windows Admin Center to manage Windows Server 2019 with Hyper-V
>enable BitLocker drive encryption
>install Windows Server 2019/2022 shielded VMs for Active Directory Domain Services
>install Windows Server 2019/2022 VMs for DNS
>completely block Active Directory domain controller access to the Internet
>install and configure WSUS to patch Internet-disconnected AD domain controllers
>setup a privileged access workstation (PAW) to manage Active Directory
I previously had much of this with Proxmox VE, but I hate managing virtio-win drivers on Proxmox VE with a passion so I'm jumping onto Hyper-V.
I intend to host other, less sensitive VMs on another physical server, because I don't have a better use for this Windows Server 2019 node.

>>101527929
damn man, that sucks
all i need to do is wait for my hba card to come, plug it in, and install windows, snapraid and call it a day for a storage/archive pc

About to buy 4x StarTech UNIRAILS2U. Any recommendations for cheaper 2U fixed rails for a 37" deep rack that can hold more than 50lbs?

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Why is picrel $600?

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>>101521898
Are you me? I have pretty much the same rig:

>5600x, 32gb ECC ram, b550 msi vdh, 4tbx12 with 9400-16i hba. titanium PSU. truenas dragonfish. plex, qbittorrent, ad guard, webdav and photoprism.

I have my drives in two vdevs of (6) drives each in ZFS2. One 512 MB M2 as a software drive, torrent scratch file before auto-transferring to the pools. Did not see any benefit converting to a L2ARC cache drive whatsoever due to low hits.

Not sure about the slow speeds with zf2 guy here >>101521938 but its plenty fast. Lantest Helios shows around 105 mb/s read / write during its benchmark test. When copying one large file (100GB+) from one vdev to another (i.e., entirely through the HBA - no LAN / ethernet bottleneck) I get sustained write speeds around 250 mb/s. I do agree with him that opening a large pictures folder (i.e., several thousands of small files does get a little chuggish).

I have mine running headless so accessing the BIOS is a PITA because I need to pop in a video card. Plex is 100% software transcoding and satisfies my local needs perfectly well. Its idle power consumption is pretty shit mind you and if I had to do it again I would go Intel for the low power state. It idles around 50w with just the CPU, ram, system fans running and no HBA / HDDs connected. Idles around 90-95w with everything plugged in (12 SATA HDD's, one 64gb SSD OS drive, 512 MB m2 drive) which is pretty shit for a NAS.

If I had to do it again, I would get this for $300 https://mitxpc.com/products/c3558d4i-4l?_pos=18&_sid=880b019c4&_ss=r which has vastly lower power states, and superior network drives as well as a built in HBA.

inb4 blog post

>>101528228
don't question it, goy

>>101528238
>I have mine running headless so accessing the BIOS is a PITA because I need to pop in a video card
Maybe you should listen to enterpriseschizo next time.

>>101523753
Its $120 but a damn good NAS system.

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806210248031.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.7.63571811UugTow&algo_pvid=f06bbb76-9bbd-4bf8-b6a0-9357b3429de1&algo_exp_id=f06bbb76-9bbd-4bf8-b6a0-9357b3429de1-3&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21USD%21191.15%21120.42%21%21%21191.15%21120.42%21%402101fb1217216989876725580eee65%2112000037019219435%21sea%21US%210%21AB&curPageLogUid=IYSDiNskaiFc&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch%7Cquery_from%3A

This German chad does a nice little NAS build with it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjDoQA4C22c

>>101528253
I built this before I ever heard of enterprise schizo. I haven't needed to access the BIOS for like 6 months of continuous use so it doesnt bother me anyway. No doubt schizo would have recommended I get a DELL PowerEdge R940 to serve as a home NAS because anything less would have been a half measure in his mind. I love how he shows that there is no such thing as full ECC memory support for anything AMD anyway. Trying to please enterprise schizo is a fools errand bro.

>>101528285
eh, a lot of people here keep telling people not to buy these things. they break easily from what i read here.

>>101528319
I think enterpriseschizo is on point. I will post my rack for him to judge soon.

>>101528361
Stop replying to yourself enterprise schizo. We all know its you.

>>101528285
>This German chad does a nice little NAS build with it:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjDoQA4C22c
>says ECC isn't that important for homelab use
dropped there

>>101528502
Considering Intel is the king of low power setups that matter in non-free power American states, some tradeoffs have to be made. Id say low power, integrated video / quicksync >>>>>>> ECC ram for 99% of home media server / nas setups. Especially since Intel has made it so fucking difficult to achieve all 3 (ecc, quicksync, low power idle) on any of its latest offerings.

>>101528737
sometimes im glad im renting and dont own a home. $1100CAD a month, includes electricity, hydro and parking. 4 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms, 1 laundry room. two floors. so fucking glad.
in my scenario ecc > how quiet it is > integrated gpu >>>>>>>>>> power consumption

>>101528826
wtf, you mean renting a house right? even so, thats insanely cheap. you'd never find a deal like that here in US.

rent from a 2bedroom apartment here is $2k+/mo, and this is a low cost of living state. In NY/CA, it would be $4k+/mo

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>>101528858
>house
no, it's a co-op townhouse.
only thing that annoys me is that i can't punch holes in the walls to install cables. also i annoy my family members since i literally have cables all over the ceiling.

>>101528885
I hope that isn't your townhome. that shit looks ugly. literally a giant box on some concrete.

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>>101528902
nah, just as an example.
mine kinda looks like this one. but 3 floors. there are units on the basement and first floor. then another unit on top taking the 2nd and 3rd floor. we have a balcony too. underground parking but there's parking above ground for visitors.
and honestly, dont really care about the looks. im paying $1100 a month, which is split into 3 because me, my brother and parents share the rent. looks is the last thing i care about
that's $850USD for you burgers, and split three ways, that's ~$285/mo in rent.

>>101528253
>>101528319
>>101528361
>>101528380
>enterpriseschizo
Rent free, chat.

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>>101528242
I'm questioning it. It's just a backplane, some connectors, and drive sleds.

>>101528970
you're paying for the qol by being able to hotswap drives, and the quality of the item itself.

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I bought consoooomer ssd's for vm storage. Is Enterprise Schizo going to bring me coal for Dellmass now?

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>>101529041
Is this just market segmentation, because hotswapping is an "enterprise" feature? The price is silly, but by the responses I'm getting I feel like this standar for this kind of product.

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>>101529055
You will quickly realize the IOPS and disk latency can't keep up with VM workloads, and the SSDs will report a high percentage of wear leveling within a few months.
Pic related for illustration (but I don't actually recommend to buy Kingston datacenter SSDs).

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>>101529070
yeah, if you buy new it's that much. could buy cheaper on ebay or something.
personally i would just use this thing. doesn't work on a rack but i dont use a rack anyways. my set up sits on a small shelf and these hdd bays on the bottom shelf. not too worried about vibration since i did put some foam rubber thing where it sits.

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>>101528228
>>101528970
>>101529070
They're reasonably high-quality modules which allow you to bypass several different kinds of nightmares inherent in shoving tons of 3.5"/2.5" into even some of the nicer 'nas' towers. Legit racks will almost always be cheaper/easier to work with for hotswapping drives, unless you're spending fucking tons on the tower itself.
>t. formerly m5a97, now pro ws x570-ace anon with 8 1.92T enterprise grade SSDs in a $200 icydock 8x 2.5" to 5.25" bay in a fractal design 7

>>101526096
Great for idlemaxxing

>>101529100
It'll be 8x 990 pro 2TB's. The usage wont be very high, and this is likely overkill for what I'm doing.

>>101529152
>8 1.92T enterprise grade SSDs
You've beat me to it, 990FX. Too bad your SSDs are also Samsung OEM.
Feels like a lot of SATA SSDs became more expensive lately.

>>101529152
>fractal design 7
Was gonna buy this. How is it? I don't really want to set up a rack (because no space) so a tower would be my next best thing.

>>101529198
NTA PowerEdge T330 / T340 would be a better choice for a tower server. Hotswap trays, and the usual server features.

>>101529212 (Me)
I actually meant T430 / T440 but those would work too.

>>101529212
>>101529225
>almost $2k on ebay
jesus fucking christ
i think i'll stick to the fractal

>>101529113
>>101529152
I suppose I'll just get a fixed mount adapter. I need 4 slots for u.2 optane drives for zfs special device. I'm also in a Fractal D7 xl and everything works out perfectly.

h12ssl
16x sata onboard for 14x3.5" hdd and 1x optical drive
2x 5.25" bays for 1x optical drive and 1x 5.25" to 4x 2.5" bays.

I'll need a pcie card for the u.2 drives, but I've got 128 pcie lane for that. I was seeing 4x u.2 riser cards on ebay, but those seem pretty sketchy.

>>101529259
< $500 for 13G for what I see for full systems.
~$800 for 14G without HDDs.

>>101529225
>>101529262 (me)
That case does look sexy, though it seems to only have space for 6 pcie slots which would be an issue.

>>101529279
Link? Maybe it doesn't show up in my country.

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>>101529177
>You've beat me to it, 990FX
I still have that set up as a backup node that's mostly offline - with the power of rsync, ssh, nfs and smbd it's finally taken its penultimate form (prior to being upgraded with some new am5 mobo to compliment a cheeky 4464P and 2xsfp28 nic).
>Too bad your SSDs are also Samsung OEM.
It's not the biggest bummer in the world, not trying to stick them into a VM any time soon. I'll probably be fine until I build something even more outlandish out of kioxias - but many more grandmas will need to fall before that's a reality.
>Feels like a lot of SATA SSDs became more expensive lately.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed. I sincerely think most regular joes can't justify the infrastructure upgrades to take advagtage of u.2/nvme drives. They just don't need the extra utility over whatever m.2 devices they can find offer, nevermind how fantastic am4 was and thus how few people will migrate to take advantage of pcie 5. In my opinion.
>>101529198
How is it?
It's actually really nice for the money. They drive cage/work space is extremely well built, but the clearance between the back of your 3.5" drives and the case wall isn't record-breaking. Plan out your psu purchase intelligently or buy 90 degree connectors so you don't need to sweat bending your psu cables too much (it's really fine with this case you're in no real danger). You can remove the front door completely for better airflow, and it's not aesthetically displeasing at all - and it has a single 5.25" bay so you can totally use an icydock expansion slot like I did.
>>101529262
You're moving in the right direction, and you have an XL so that's an extra 5.25 and even more cable management room.
>I'll need a pcie card for the u.2 drives,
This will be expensive.
>but I've got 128 pcie lane for that.
This is fantastic news, you have options then. Maybe multiple cards? What mobo?
>I was seeing 4x u.2 riser cards on ebay, but those seem pretty sketchy.
Be cautious fren.

>>101529339
>dell t330
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=dell+t330&_sacat=0
https://www.ebay.com/itm/156257980478
https://www.ebay.com/itm/115921326860
https://www.ebay.com/itm/126533852750
https://www.ebay.com/itm/276483282774
>dell t430
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=dell+t430&_sacat=0
https://www.ebay.com/itm/145330272329
>dell t340
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=dell+t340&_sacat=0
https://www.ebay.com/itm/276554151602
https://www.ebay.com/itm/195688654606
>dell t440
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=dell+t440&_sacat=0
https://www.ebay.com/itm/285786914870
https://www.ebay.com/itm/296498383267

No endorsement, only a few top results within the numbers I stated.
I could've searched by sold items, but I don't care to post all the URLs.

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>>101529388
The system is epyc 7402 on an h12ssl-i mobo.
-8x sata ports
-1x slimline sas connector that you can plug a squid cable into to get 8 more sata connectors.
-5 16x pcie
-2 8x pcie
-2 m.2 slots. using 2x intel optane 16GB in raidz1 for proxmox install.

So far I'm pretty much locked in for 2 4x m.2 riser cards for vm storage, a 10gbe nic, and some adapter for my u.2 drives. So I've got 3 slots left. Probably going to be at least 2 gpu's for transcoding, Ai tinkering, vm acceleration. Plan to do some light video editing/encoding in a vm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqIVHaU3usA
Enterpriseschizo has been debunked

I'm a moron. Is there a way to have high-speed streaming of one computer in my home network to another? For example, I'd like to stream games from my gaming PC to my laptop and stream retro shit from my Pi 4 to my laptop too.

>>101529540
Sunshine/Moonlight

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>>101529453
>epyc 7402 on an h12ssl-i mobo
Hot damn that's a solid fucking build anon, congrats on all those gen4 x16 slots!
>So far I'm pretty much locked in for 2 4x m.2 riser cards for vm storage
love it
>a 10gbe nic
if you're locked in it's cool but you can totally grab a MCX4121A-ACAT and be 10/25 or even 2x 25 for as low as $80. Just throwing that out there.
>and some adapter for my u.2 drives
What kind of research have you put into this? I will inevitably be going down this route in the intermediate future and I want to know what you've learned or what you're interested in.
>Probably going to be at least 2 gpu's for transcoding, Ai tinkering, vm acceleration.
all of that sounds fantastic, if you get a local language model to operate as local, voice-activated home automation then please write something about it in this thread. Super interested in that, and some other anon is also working on that I think.
>Plan to do some light video editing/encoding in a vm
What do you have in mind?

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>>101529511
>Any reason for the dedicated Ceph nodes over running Proxmox and Ceph on the same nodes?
>because hyperconverged is a stupid sales gimmick. Proxmox will never have the latest Ceph and because using a hypervisor to do storage is a terrible idea
Shots fucking fired

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>>101529564
For the networking I was really trying to convince myself to do 25gbe, but there just isn't a reasonable way to get those speeds the the build I want to do for my pc upgrade.
For the video editing, it's mostly just clips to share with friends and re encoding shit with avidemux or handbreak. I figured I could do it on the server as the cpu is decent and the storage would be local that way instead of streaming over the network. I use Resolve for editing, but I haven't even checked if avidemux is on linux so that'll decide if it's a linux or windows vm. I just checked the u.2 card situation, and u.2 is just a pcie formfactor so it just werks™. Picrel related $26.

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>For the networking I was really trying to convince myself to do 25gbe, but there just isn't a reasonable way to get those speeds the the build I want to do for my pc upgrade.
Your other node(s) can't take advantage of the connection speed? This is unfortunate, but reasonable. My 990fx box doesn't actually have anything that can read/write faster than ~700MB/s.
>I just checked the u.2 card situation, and u.2 is just a pcie formfactor so it just werks™. Picrel related $26.
My brain tells me this is indeed true and reasonable as you don't technically need a controller if you aren't splitting those into sata ports...but even so, is that little chinesium thing all you need? What's the
>enterprise schizo
selection for variations of this hardware?

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>>101529713
Other nodes is a thing for another day and many more pay cheques. I know doing u.2 with cables like this can cause issues, but the alternative for doing 4x u.2 in a single slot is picrel, and something about it just rubs me the wrong way. If someone has seen other pcie to 4x u.2, or has used picrel, that would be great.

>>101529567
for me sunshine/moonlight completely ignores and bypasses any bluelight filter/nightlight/redshift/whatever on both machines, that's my sole pet peeve with it.
like, how difficult is it really to implement "warm_colors=1" in the config file? i reckon it's not rocket science.

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Soup /hsg/.
I have an idea for a project but have no idea where to start. Any advice or pointers is appreciated.
>have RPi4
>want to use it as a torrentbox accessible through the web
>also want to set up Plex for media streaming with the downloaded torrents automatically populating Plex
>if not too resource intensive I'd also like to run pihole
Is this feasible? Sorry if it's a stupid question but I've never set anything like this up before and the whole operation seems sort of daunting to me.

Are people such big consoomers that they really need these weird services that automatically torrents new movies and all that shit for them? If I want to watch something I just kinda torrent it manually, wait a little and shove it on my NAS.

>>101530280
Assuming you're referring to me >>101530224 I would be downloading the torrents manually but just have wherever the completed torrents wind up also be set as a repository for Plex if that makes sense.

>>101530352
LMAO I didn't even see your post at all, I swear.

>>101530280
I guess I can kinda see the exception for TV shows and anime since you want new episodes but the rest is kinda mind boggling.

What's the best way to run services on a computer that's already used for general computing? I want to set up a pair of backup servers on my computer and on a member of my family's computer, which will be accessed via a private network. In addition, I like spinning up other services on occasion, like apache, or drawpile, or various game servers or whatever.

For these services, I would like 3 things:
1) for it to start in the background (system tray is acceptable, if applicable)
2) for it to automatically start on login or computer start
3) I need access to the CLI on some of these programs, notably game servers
Additionally, I will be running on Linux, and the family member is running a windows machine. So cross-platform is a must.

I am familiar with running services "bare-metal", in virtual machines, and I'm starting to get more acclimated with Docker (which I used to run a self-hosted video streaming service on my windows installation)

Thanks for any advice you lot can give.

sup /g/ents, I've been struggling with my incus DNS setup.
The default config has managed dns records
> container1.incus
> container2.incus
I plan on using an nginx reverse proxy and thus would like a wildcard entry for the nginx.incus domain but my brain is too smooth to understand the documentation.
Any ideas on how to setup a *.nginx.incus record so I can resolve
> comfy.container1.incus
to that container?
I'm working on a bridged interface btw.

Why do I have to run this every time after installing debian GNOME™ edition?
sudo apt remove aisleriot gnome-chess gnome-mahjongg gnome-mines gnome-sudoku quadrapassel tali xterm cheese rhythmbox four-in-a-row gnome-contacts gnome-weather gnome-clocks gnome-maps totem anthy anthy-common anthy-el simple-scan gnome-system-monitor xiterm+thai gnome-logs five-or-more goldendict hdate-applet hitori uim-gtk2.0 im-config gnome-klotski lightsoff mlterm gnome-music gnome-nibbles iagno gnome-robots gnome-sound-recorder gnome-sudoku swell-foop synaptic tali gnome-taquin gnome-tetravex gnome-text-editor thunderbird evolution yelp mlterm-tiny gnome-calendar firefox-esr -y
sudo rm /usr/share/applications/setup-mozc.desktop /usr/share/applications/mlterm.desktop /usr/share/applications/nm-connection-editor.desktop /usr/share/applications/software-properties-gtk.desktop org.gnome.FileRoller.desktop

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>>101531580
why gnome?
normally you wouldn't need anything more than pic related + Webmin

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How does fragmentation work on ZFS? I'm reading through some posts and it seems as though "fragmentation" in a ZFS context refers to free space. Is this correct?
I'm also wondering if I should have turned auto defrag on in my datasets/pool. I have 3 10 terabyte spinning drives in a raidz1 array currently, but I'm not sure if turning on or running a defrag would benefit my current pool in any way. Does ZFS defragging even do anything on spinning drives?

>>101531940
fragmentation is just the nature of all filesystems, copy-on-write ones especially since you cannot write in-place, edited fragment will be deleted and a new one created, leaving a hole.
>"fragmentation" in a ZFS context refers to free space
i believe so, that's what matters the most for writes. Afaik ZFS will still try to allocate big files in consecutive blocks of data if possible.
If you want to dig into the details, you can check the fragmentation for a given file:

stat /pool/file # note the inode
zdb -ddddd <pool> <inode>

For big static file (movie, for example) blocks should have consecutive addresses. For something that's frequently written to (syslog, for example) blocks will most likely be all over the place. This command also allows you to check block sizes, 2000L hex is 128k record for example.
>defrag
there is no defrag tooling in ZFS, you'd have to backup your pool, destroy it, create it and copy the data over again.

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This just means the motherboard has to support ECC too, right?

picrel

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What's wrong with Synology? It just werks

>>101532483
Not enterprise scalable.

>>101532583
this is a HOME server thread, schyzoprise friend

>>101532616
Not overly home scalable either, if i'm paying that much i would want to add an extra drive or run some gameserver on it whenever i feel like it.

>>101532483
what kind of redundancy will 4 bays provide? basically nothing. i've lost servers in big dick environments in a RAID 10. why would i entrust my family photos to that piece of shit thing? that's before we talk about the networking aspect.

>>101532842
4 bays will provide 3 layers of redundancy which is more than you need from a since machine . Above 3 your safer to just have another geographically separated machine instead to protect against one machine being destroyed or stolen

>i've lost servers in big dick environments
Doubt you have since you wouldn't be larping on /hsg/ if you had a job .

>>101532893
i come here to help retards like you. homelabbing is continuing education, it's not to download massive amounts of porn to store.

Is meddling with MTU values something that you generally do when connecting with wireguard? My connection is quite unstable and I'm on gigabit. When I try to ssh into my server I get kicked out after a few seconds + extreme latency when inputing commands. I was thinking of looking for an optimal MTU as soon as I can physically access my server and then configure wg in such a way that it will make it use the same MTU as my server. If I understand networking correctly that should align wg pqcket size with the one my server uses reducing latency/fixing instability. Am I doing something unnecessary?

What is best setup to play music from my NAS to my Android ?
VLC or Symfonium + SMB over WireGuard
Symfonium + Navidrome over WireGuard
Symfonium + Jellyfin over WireGuard

I'm not planning at the moment to expose them directly to the internet.

For Windows I'm currently trying Feishin (Sonixd rewrite) with Navidrome and Jellyfin, if you have a better alternative.

>>101533125
How exactly is the server situated? Not actual location, i mean what kind of infrastructure you go through to connect to it?

>>101532483
it's overly expensive, cannot be upgraded, provides inadequate ventilation and uses proprietary software. if you're afraid of building your own server, sure go ahead and get to get your feet wet before diving in i guess.

>>101533227
i use mpd inside termux (satellite setup), music directory shared over http (because libnfs or smbclient didn't resolve server-side symlinks). Should work over WireGuard just fine too.

>>101533258
It's just a simple home server connected to a domestic modem router. After some testing I found out the highest MTU that doesn't frag is 1492 so I tried setting that value in my wg0.conf
I'll do some testing connecting through a mobile hotspot to see if sshing is stable now

>>101533125
before you mess with MTU you need to understand MSS and window sizing, the differences between L2 and L3 MTU, and understand everything on-path (Dot1Q tags, tunnels, anything that affects frame size).

>>101533999
I was desperate enough to look into networking which is a field I really don't get. I'm going forward on a trial and error basis hoping to improve my situation. The fact the entire network becomes unresponsive the moment I ssh is just bizarre

>>101533915
if you set the L3 MTU on WG and didn't modify the L2 MTU on the adapter you're going to have fragmentation on your server still. think about it like plumbing.

>>101534026
adjust the MSS downward and see if it improves things.

Is there a quick guide to laptop power settings with Xubuntu? How can I configure "Unless I'm actively turning the system off, I want this system to NEVER drop below the minimum power state needed to run jellyfin, the USB SSD, and networking (SSH etc.)"? I just switched this laptop off from Windows, which kept putting the laptop to sleep or locking it or doing other dumb bullshit no matter how much I fiddled with the power settings.

>>101534406
Uninstall Xubuntu and install the minimal Ubuntu server image . Or just uninstall XFCE ,x11 and lightdm or whatever it uses so the DE can't put your machine to sleep

>>101534406
What does this hardware and operating system have to do with servers?

>>101533039
I come here to offer help and 1337 hacks to do anything to do with selfhosting using any hardware . I don't think I will ever get along with your pretentious ass

>>101534621
are you upset that you bought a synology and now people are telling you it's bad?

>>101534897
NTA that owns the appliance but synology is trash. I just don't like why you dislike it

>>101520926
have a higher res version for this image?

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does anyone here use hydrus? or maybe even runs a local booru for their own images? running tmsu in a console for use with media files seems dumb. but i guess some people use console image viewers

>>101535085
i use it, but hate how closed it is (lacking API, everything must be imported). TMSU on the other hand lacks a good GUI, and the FUSE module is slow as fuck for some reason.
I'm in progress of writing my own replacement of both (CLI base + GUI tool, supporting both importing files and adding external ones etc.)

>>101535001
No but here is the source for the images I've drunkardly put together:

https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E72372_01/html/E72376/figures/G5850_SAS_cables_removal.jpg

https://www.storagereview.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/StorageReview-LSI-MegaRAID-9361-8i1.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/e9/ff/cd/e9ffcd1aa5bace9a532ffdadc9456c3a.jpg

https://www.dasher.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/HPESmartArray-01-1024x576.png

https://help.fasthosts.co.uk/euf/assets/KB-Images/operating-systems/Windows2008/add-mirror-2008.png

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fxfzj8rnv4qj81.jpg

https://community.hpe.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/109133i655DD4F758C44DC7/image-size/large?v=v2&px=2000

http://www.qdpma.com/Storage_files/LSI_SAS_1078.png

>>101530224
Pls help.

What are my options to use HTTPS on local network server without the warning ?
I have a certificate for my root domain from Let's Encrypt (anon-cloud.com) and I would like to use it for services not exposed to the interwebz (media.anon-cloud.com, music.anon-cloud.com, etc.)

>>101530224
>>101535937
>RPi4
>Is this feasible?
No. Next question, please.

>>101536094
:(

>>101536082
DNS-01 Let's Encrypt challenges to bring certificates to an offline (but not airgapped) environment (automated renewal), or running your own CA (manual renewal and painful to manage CRLs).

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>>101535243
Please inform me via certified mail when this is in a useable state.

>>101536082

No match for domain "ANON-CLOUD.COM".
>>> Last update of whois database: 2024-07-23T16:58:11Z <<<

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>>101536128
Thanks, trying to manage it on the NAS
Hoster API is down so I'm trying with the manual DNS, nice security
./acme.sh --renew -d anon-cloud.com --yes-I-know-dns-manual-mode-enough-go-ahead-please

>>101536224
Anon, I ...

i want to do all this but don't know how to set up directories.
>jellyfin
>SMB
>*arrs, some torrent client
>audiobooks
how should i organize it

currently i have a cheap 500gb hdd on my dell micro, not sure what to do for upgrading storage. considered these options:
-external hdd like wd, 4tb or more;
-new internal 2.5 hdd hdd (pretty shit desu)
-new 3.5 nas hdd and buy a usb enclosure

what do?

for me it's mergerfs

I love you, home server general anons

>>101537863
same. but add in snapraid
dont need to fiddle around with linux bullshit and just stay in wondows

Man, I can't decide about Nextcloud. It does some stuff really well but then some of the apps like contacts are just crappy as fuck and have zero features.

>>101537646
internal 4tb 2.5" is dope

>>101537863
Way too much overhead.

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>>101538454
I don't use the contacts app . instead I just use have the nexcloud android app make a daily backup of my contacts

>>101538454
i like the irony of having Google Drive and One Drive apps available

>>101520926
Got myself a Fujitsu Esprimo P756 with i7 and 16GB RAM for a Proxmox server, serving a OPNsense, jellyfin, Docker, Proxmox BackupServer and NAS
You think this one suits me?
https://www.ebay.de/itm/235219521112?var=535240357459

>>101541543
That's not a server, it's an e-waste desktop–without any server features, stability, TPM security or support–from Windows 7 era that belongs in the bin.
It's also more expensive than a Broadwell era Xeon E5 v4 rackserver (which is also e-waste, but much better spec).

>>101541821
even a thinclient can serve as server, I certanly won't run a vacuum cleaner in my home

>>101541859
The cheaper and better rackserver I was talking about is ~29 dBa quiet, but it's apparent you're getting filtered by this general.
Oh, and the answer is your choice won't suit you the best.

>Reading/Watching reviews on AM5 Epyc
>Comments all bitch about PCIe lane limitations
What are these buttholes trying to do with their server? I get the complaints about slots on the board being wack but it's always general bitching about total lane availability when they're likely resorting to gen3 cards.
They also completely miss that most rack solutions for AM5 involve making mini blades and running 6~12 systems across a 5u.

>>101529262
>>101529453
There are a few types of pcie > U2 cards.
>PCIe switches if you don't have bifurication (expensive)
>PCIe to your choice of connectors, requires bifurication. Examples: >>101529656 and >>101529766
>Literally a riser cable
Assuming your board is capable, the middle one will be cheapest to use with multiple.

>>101529766
If you just need to connect one U.2 the pcie riser cable to U.2 will work. Or get an m.2 adapter.

>>101530224
You will absolutely need something else for plex if clients can't deal with the codec.

>>101532478
Correct.

>>101541543
If possible, you should try to avoid these configurable listings that come with windows. 6th gen is also really fucking old but will run what you listed. If you get squeezed on capability, you get a usff with a more modern processor and move your non-storage services to it.

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>>101542301
>durr why do people want PCIe lanes
>what could you even do with such a thing?

>>101522847
Anon is correct. Performance boards have more information for the customer (to prove they are worth it)

Also you can probably find recommendations for similar projects

>>101543188
>Also you can probably find recommendations for similar projects
>everyone here says to not even bother unless using enterprise gear
>costs upwards to $2000
>people starting with this dont want to invest that much right off the gate
>dont bother with even trying it
lol

>>101528140
Those are a very simple and practical design. You can always create DIY supports if you want to be mega cheap. Technically a strong net plus Velcro will hold anything hammock style

>>101543262
For normie advice seek normie sites. YouTube, reddit

>>101541543
Old stuff eats mad power for less performance for the next 5 years.

>>101542737
I'd like a 100% E3.S nas as much as the next guy but that's placing you in a completely different price bracket or requires a custom solution to accommodate anyway.
Or am I supposed to be sympathetic toward some guy trying to run multiple RTX 4000 cards in a cheap platform?

>>101543262
The ESXi shill can be safely ignored. They're incapable of dealing with anything that's not listed in official documentation of their proprietary OS.

>>101530224
Enough people have used rpis for what you want that you can probably Google it easily

>>101543376
>The ESXi shill can be safely ignored. They're incapable of dealing with anything that's not listed in official documentation of their proprietary OS.
Not exactly true, I've posted ESXi 8 running on Dell R730 with E5-2660v4 here before. I wouldn't recommend it for production use, however.

>>101528943
May your tech skills grow your career so you can own your own place, anon
Godspeed

>>101543318
and you think 4chan isnt?
you people roleplay into thinking you work with and for large data companies and yet use hand-me-downs that was in a server 5-10 years ago
lol
lmao even

>>101543469
nah, pretty much given up on getting a house
paying $400/mo for rent is much better than 2k/mo on a mortgage
and im not really pursing any tech careers. instead currently studying nursing as a person in their mid thirties

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>>101543487
Whatever you say, anon

>>101543376
NICs for virtualized network infrastructure. video cards for AI compute. hard drives for storage clusters. so many reasons for a ton of pcie lanes.

>>101521678
kinda sounds like Homosexual GNU Niggers

>>101543579
Nice cat

>>101543446
What torrenting daemon is supported by vmware?

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>>101543487
Hey fella, speak for yourself

I have a contant dude connecting to my Postfix, I banned the IP with both smtpd_client_restriction and iptables. I verified it's well setup into iptables, reloaded postfix, but it continues to spill into my logs.
what is this weird thing ?

postfix/smtpd[20244]: connect from unknown[178.215.236.236]
postfix/smtpd[20244]: warning: unknown[178.215.236.236]: SASL LOGIN authentication failed: Invalid authentication mechanism, sasl_username=(unavailable)
postfix/smtpd[20244]: lost connection after AUTH from unknown[178.215.236.236]

>>101547654
Internet background noise. Nothing to look at, unless your infrastucture has been compromised already.

>>101547732
Some cyberpunk shit.

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>>101547732
in many years it never had been, I touch wood. At least I'm not aware of any glowers. I keep eyes on things and never experienced trouble.
I'm pissed by those useless messages consuming machines time and bytes for nothing. okay I can filter them out from rsyslog but.. it's still a filter. Multiply them over a long period, and it's another whale dying in the ocean.
I find weird to DROP them all and still see this shit. Googling on it show it's a recurring topic.
I should maybe go back into using Sendmail.

I would like some advice. I've got ~15TB free in a 48TB system, and I want to make space but I'm a filthy hoarder and I can't bring myself to delete some 20TB of poorly seeded material. So my question is what's a good "deep storage" solution? I have a backblaze 'drive' set up already, and I wouldn't mind paying ~200 a month to store the data I want to clear up from my nas. But what reasonable cold storage would a nigga suggest for ~20TB of dead torrents?

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wtf brehs
noone told me Cockpit was so comfy
literally all I need

>>101548153
>I wouldn't mind paying ~200 a month to store the data I want to clear up from my nas
I feel like your autism is in a different plane of existence compared to us mere mortals. Not even sure what kind of advice you need at this point.

>>101548346
I clearly need someone to reason me out of paying ~200 a month to store the data on backblaze. Because I'm too autistic to find a better option.

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>>101548153
grab 2 20TB drives, put them in a mirror, sync your data, hide them somewhere safe, simple as.
Much more versatile too, and no risk of your data being held hostage by cloud companies.

>>101548954
Oh shoot I like this idea.

I like the idea of hoarding, but I don't know what I'm supposed to do with Linux. Just setup a samba share and dump all my data or do I use Freenas? I have trouble getting past the setup with distros like that.

What's the simple way to hoard?

>>101549288
TrueNAS is the easy way to hoard, yes.

>>101536574
https://trash-guides.info/Hardlinks/How-to-setup-for/

>>101548954
Not him, but I plan on doing this. However I would sometimes like to retrieve data on them. From what I read the SATA connector on the drives are only rated for 50 matings. For anyone that does this and reconnect the drives to get their stuff, did you guys notice any data corruption when transferring the files with a well worn connector?

>>101549288
I just use mergerfs and Snapraid. TrueNAS, UnRAID are nice and all but if you are just data hoarding (like me) you really don't need the real-time data protection that TrueNAS and UnRAID gives.
My main problem with them are a few things:
UnRAID isn't free. I would have used it since it's probably easier to set up.
TrueNAS has limited upgradeability. You can't just plug in a new drive and call it a day. You have to buy a set of new drives once the old ones gets full. Which costs a lot. Slowly buying drives one by one as my collection gets full is more easy on my wallet than buying 16x 18TB drives at the same time.

>>101550174
>did you guys notice any data corruption when transferring the files with a well worn connector
i used to get a certain amount of 'CRC error count' in smart data which made lot of programs diagnose it as defective and throw warnings at you all day long despite all the surface scans ever showing no actual damage

>>101549886
wow...perfect thanks

>still no affordable, enterprise-grade, high single thread performance CPU
reeeeeee

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>If there are any video files directly under a media location, as opposed to being contained within a subdirectory, Jellyfin will claim that the media location contains no media whatsoever
>If you decide to put any miscellaneous videos under a subdirectory called "Other" or "Extra" to try to get around this issue, Jellyfin will simply ignore everything within that subdirectory
>However, if you name the directory "test" or "necessarysubdirectory", it works fine

How many years of development has Jellyfin gone through? Why does it have such bizarre jank? This is ridiculous.

>>101551874
W1250

>>101552445
Garbage compared to consoomer CPUs of comparable price

>>101535085
I use it to manage a mirror of maybe a million images of furry porn. Works out of the box, searches and views practically instantly even though it's easily several hundred gigabytes in media and maybe 10GB in sqlite size.

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>>101520926
Is there some other magic to HDD sleds than their geometry? I've designed and 3D printed some sleds to use HDDs in my niche very old PC case, but am not sure if it'll somehow kill them early anyway. They've got a lot of airflow and I can't hear any vibrations off it

>>101552837
>3D printed sleds
I hope they don't melt or deform ;)

>>101552563
>Garbage compared to consoomer
your requirements are garbage

alright kids.
i bit the bullet and started real home network.
got a rack closet and its already set up with a 24port patch panel, a 24port mikrotik switch and an openwrt router. i also have two hp elitedesk 400 g3s and they have proxmox running on them. there also is a pdu and a shelf.
on friday or saturday my rb5009 is coming.
i kinda fell in love with mikrotik and i got the rb5009upr for 170€ so that will be fun.
the rack is not actually online yet since i still have to run cat6a through my home.
the walls are solid cement so im doing kable channels on the sides.
will post a pics once everything is done but my question is whats useful stuff to selfhost?
in my proxmox i plan to run the unifi controller, checkmk, pi-hole, an admin linux server and a syncthing instance.
in the future i wanna get a nas but i already spent like 700 bucks this month for all this stuff so i dont wanna spend too much all at once.
i just want some recommendations for selfhosting.
im planning to go through the gitlab link in the op but maybe you guys have some special recommendations?
currently the two hp elitedesks have 8gb of ram each a 500gb 2.5" hdd.

>>101553049
I doubt it, the peak reported temp is 40C, normal operation hovers closer to 30C. Even the meltiest PLA would still need at least 70C to start deforming, 90c to melt

>>101535243
why not work with the hydrus dev? dude is super active on several platforms and has continuously updated for years now
>>101552712
ever tried running a booru locally or doing other tag based stuff with your files? would love to hear a comparison. the public tagging repository that the community has going on seems like a game changer

>>101553262
Local booru is the primary purpose of it, being able to view e621 offline has been a goal of mine so whenever the guberment comes up with it's next brilliant idea to take it down I can still jerk it to big tittied foxgirls. I've also used it to tag reaction images for imageboard use. It's more useable than folders, but with mere thousands of pics it's not really necessary. Haven't tried community tag support, but the hash stores seem pretty comprehensive so I'd give it a shot

>>101552712
>a million images
>several hundred gigabytes
this is sad

>>101553455
Storing uncompressed bitmaps just seems wasteful though. Some hundred KiB should be right about what an average picture takes

>>101553147
You're garbage

>>101553392
To clarify, I have tried other software, but it's so far it's been a bit too involved to care about one enough to set it up, so hydrus ends up being the only booru sw I've put up. Just kind of ran it, typed in tags and viewed with it

>>101526256
nta but half of my services break when behind my nginx reverse proxy. I've tried every combination of proxy pass x header whatever bullshit and it never works.

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>>101548954
isnt magnetic tape storage longer lasting and cheaper in the long run?

>>101553501
Why do you need high single thread performance

>>101553855
I'd be more worried about the tape drive rather than the tapes themselves. Companies can afford to pay someone to migrate the tapes from older to newer generations and drives get old and obsolete. LTO7 drives can't read LTO-3 though, so your very old backups would be in danger if no more LTO-3 drives were available

>>101553860
Because my workload doesn't scale horizontally

>>101553487
but the prosperity!

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>>101553262
>hydrus dev
good for him, but it's not just about adding new features, i have a different view on how things are supposed to work. I've considered using hydrus or TMSU as base, but after consideration decided on roll my own thing.
I really need to get back to it, i've most of TMSU features working, with much faster FUSE module, but i got distracted with other projects.
>>101553855
tape drives are expensive. Never used LTO, but it also seems very limiting.
With HDDs, i can pop them in, SMART test them and scrub the pool to make sure the data is healthy, manually verify that everything is in it's place by just mounting it and exploring, as well as make incremental backups with snapshots.
I don't believe you can do those things with tape.

>>101553816
some services require special setups which is usually documented. in most cases you need to add the proxy pass stuff to location /socket or location /api.

check the console to see what kind of error its throwing if something isnt loading right, or just google it and usually someone else will have had the same problem on stackoverflow

>>101553182
DHCP
DNS
NTP
File Server (NAS Samba and NFS)
Mail Server (postfix and dovecot)
Podman(Docker)
DNS over HTTPS
Pihole
home assistant
Onlyfans scraper
TFTP
PXEBOOT via BIOS and UEFI
plex
MATE
XRDP
Certificate Services (via XCA)
OpenVPN
Guacamole
Nagios
Influxdb/Telegraf
Prometheus/node_exporter
Grafana
LDAP
Webmin

>>101549313
TrueNAS community editions don't have enterprise support available, you'd need iXsystem's hardware appliances. Nevermind it's not in any primary storage magic quadrant, even though it's been People's Choice in Peer Insights.
No scalability, Gluster is end-of-life. Only TrueNAS CORE in community editions has VMware vSphere integration, it's not supported on TrueNAS SCALE.
GUI is the king until it isn't, and then CLI is the king until it isn't. TrueNAS has psychosis.

>>101552445
That's a workstation CPU, not a server one. E series stands for "entry level".

>>101553182
Who conned you into buying consumer class networking and business class e-waste from Windows 7 era?

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I'm changing ISP in two day
Old ISP:
>1GB/s down, 1GB/s up
>CGNAT
>cuck router with no setting, hard to replace with third party router
New ISP:
>1G down, 600M up
>full-stack static IPv4, static IPv6 prefix
>can unblock port 25
>can set reverse DNS
>better router with more useful settings, can be bridged or replaced
Both at the same price, 29€/mo

>>101554885
What does this have to do with servers?
There's no comparison here, ISPs are rated by the number of peers and size (tier 1 vs 2 vs 3).

>>101553392
we should share tips because i too have gigabytes of big tittied fox girls. i tried rolling my own with sqlite, nsxiv and a bunch of shell scripts but it was mega jank. i wish we had a good way to automatically tag pre-existing collections. supposedly deepdanbooru does this?

>>101554946
It means I can finally set up a proper server at home accessible from the Internet, and I will

>>101554165
That's what I mean I try copy pasting what's needed for jellyfin, ombi, arrs, etc but it never works like it should. Some things work out of the box like freshrss and dokuwiki.
I was going to tackle it again when I setup a full certificate authority and cert rotations for ldap users but it's all local anyway and feels like a waste of time.

>>101550174
i'd be more worried about flimsy SATA cables and mobo SATA slots, or bending the SATA connector on the disk from said cables.
As long as you have a proper hot-swap backplane i wouldn't worry too much about wear.

>>101556227
>As long as you have a proper hot-swap backplane
i don't. The sata cables connected to the mobo and psu aren't getting disconnected, it's the connectors between the sata cables and the hard drive is what im worried about.
those hotswap bays are so expensive.

>>101554982
Nice

>>101554656
>TrueNAS has psychosis.
You're the one with fucking psychosis.

>https://freedombox.org
>https://yunohost.org
>https://runtipi.io/
>https://www.cloudron.io/
anyone have experience with any of these server focused linux distros? which one sucks the least?

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What NAS distro that offer this during installation?
I remember there was one but I don't recall what its called.
>Detect it's being installed on USB flash drive and set settings to minimize read and writes
>Detect there are multiple flash drives connected and can be installed to 2 USB flash drives in RAID 1configuration

>>101558846
the left girl's proportions are ridiculous

>>101558907
that's a drawing

>>101558936
a drawing of two girls, yes

>>101553855
I use LTO for my backups, it works well and the tapes are cheap. The biggest issue is getting the drives, new ones are prohibitively expensive, and second hand ones need to show up on an auction site. Compatibility between versions isn't great, but I just stick within a range. You can reuse the tapes for years of daily backups. Just be aware they're quite slow, make an annoying noise, and as the name says are a linear format. You can't just update something in the middle of your data, so no incremental backups unless you get some dedicated software working.

>need to buy 10 rail kits
fuck me why did i buy servers without rails

>>101558907
like maybe the boobs are really big on purpose?

>>101559487
im talking about the waist

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Are multibay usb external enclosures worth it? I've read that being usb makes them unreliable and that a nas/server is a better purchase for the same money. I was considering the syba 4 bay external enclosure (pic related) to periodically backup/archive data from my laptop, but being able to wirelessly access my data across devices does appeal to me. Thoughts? This is all new to me so I know fuck all.

>>101560200
No. Not worth it. Buy a NAS.
I had an old PC so I just bought a SAS card for more SATA ports, it's where I put all my files in. I don't need access to it all the time so it's only turned on whenever I need to check on it and spin it or when I need some random file in there.

Curious if this is ok? I bought 2 12tb hgst ultrastar from gohardrive. smartctl says it passed the default smart test and everything looks good, but both the short and long test say it only takes 1 minute to complete. Is that ok?

I've ran both tests and they came back with no issues, but I assumed the long test would be something thats like 6hrs+. Instead it seems like it's barely 45 seconds. I've also been running a manual stress test for the past 3 days with several nonstop dd commands and there haven't been any issues. Thoughts?

>>101560200
Unfortunately I don't have any desktop to do that with. I've considered buying the RockPro64 if I go the NAS route. From what I've read it can support 4 drives. If I build a desktop I plan to go with the KGPDE-16 to keep it full freetard, but that would be more expensive. Either way like you, most frequent use it will get beside backup is occasional reading of files that I don't need to keep on any main drives.

>>101560857
meant for >>101560623

>>101560857
>I've considered buying the RockPro64 if I go the NAS route.
>most frequent use it will get beside backup
The hell is this? Oh shit nigger what are you doing.
Normal people interested in a NAS appliance buy an x86 NAS appliance with Veeam hardened repository support instead of going DIY with random equipment with no support.

>>101560961
This. If you need a NAS, buy a NAS. I didn't need one so I didn't buy one. All I needed was a place to download my files into HDDs so I was okay with using an old PC.
So, do you need a NAS?

>>101560961
I was looking into small NAS's when I came across it, and liked it cause it didn't require proprietary software. There's a case for it and it's used with openmediavault commonly.
But no, I don't need a NAS, All I want is to store backups and access files that I don't always need with me on my main drive. It would be cool to have wireless access to these files across devices for things like media playback, but that's not all important. If the usb enclosure would work well enough since I don't have an old pc to add drives to, then that's fine. Just want to make sure I'm buying a good product.

This is my setup. Maybe impractical, maybe all cocked up but hey it works and you know it was cheaper and easier to do than fooling with other methods. But anyway here goes; 4 servers. 2 full towers, 2 micro towers. All with different versions of Freenas/Truenas. But that don't mater. This is what does. Rysnc. Then version differences of the system don't come into play when doing backups. Rsync don't care. Basically 1 full tower is the main server while the other 3 act as backup dumps. What versions of freenas/truenas am I running? 8.3, 9.2, 11.2 and Truenas Scale 22. Like I said, its' all cocked up but it works. Why I don't make them all the same version? Simple; hardware limits. But ZFS is ZFS. Long as it does scrubs,smart tests,etc then it's all good. All systems use ECC ram and are connected to a UPS. Hey I maybe a cheap bastard but I don't cut corners.

>>101520926
how do you all have 240V outlets for server tech, I only have regular outlets at home

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>>101561573
I'm conserned that I'll put a load on too many computers and I'll trip the breaker. I've only got 1600 watts after all.

>>101561573
Had an electrician install them or DIY(dont attempt this please), what is this retarded question

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What's your favourite service you have running? For me, it's nextcloud snap.
I have never had to touch it after I installed and configured it. It just sits in the background keeping itself up to date, has never given me a problem and never needs attention.

>>101558640
Cloudron stands out from the others by having the free version "restricted", meaning a single install is limited to two applications.
Ignoring that distinctive aspect, there aren't any major differences between them.
It's just a front-end for docker, that's focused on offloading as much administrative aspects as possible. The equivalent of getting a Synology for a NAS.

>>101554982
What kind of server

>>101563396
Proxmox with websites, nextcloud, seedbox, Airsonic, and few games.
And now that I can allow port 25 and set reverse DNS, I'll try to make a mail server too.

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>>101560857
>RockPro64
don't, i tried this, onboard is a shitty ASM1061 controller, SAS HBA in PCIe does work, but needs janky kernel patches, since otherwise it won't initialize in time and won't be visible. ZFS says it "supports" arm, but it really doesn't: kernel panics, AES-NI support not implemented on arm, other software likely to have similar caveats.
I've even built the cables and splitters to power everything (SATA power, 12 to 5V buck converter).
It is a big shame, my original idea for RockPro64 was to put it inside my PC case to have this sort of compact dual system in one case, with NAS portion being always on.
Ended up just getting skylake R330 (which costed me the same as RockPro64), pulls only a couple of watts more, while being a proper x86 server with IPMI, hot-swap etc. Never falling for armshit again.
It's not exactly compact, but you can put it on it's side to save space.

Today I changed from password auth to key auth on my SSH server all because of reading these threads and realising the error of my ways. Thank you hsg bros.

>>101563696
>put it inside my PC case to have this sort of compact dual system in one case, with NAS portion being always on.
actually that's a cool idea

I'm looking at running a Matrix server, I see plenty of posts about how it's retarded to run it on a raspberry pi because federating would kill performance. Is this still a problem with the 5? Is there a SBC that just werks for this?
What server would you recommend? I'm kinda leaning towards conduit/conduwuit, but kinda iffy on using beta software for communication.
Honestly I would probably only use it to communicate with my family, so I doubt performance would really be an issue. Just seems weird that this is still not a "solved" issue.

>>101564091
do you even need federation?

>>101564091
You probably won't want to run a Matrix serv off an SD card.

>>101563754
>key auth
With a passphrase i hope.
Otherwise i will steal your computer and log in your server.

>>101564103
I would guess not, but it seems like a critical feature of the whole thing in my opinion. Feels bad to set something up and never be able to use a feature because of hardware limitations.
>>101564149
Because of write limits destroying the card over time, or IO limits? Something I didn't consider at least.

>>101564198
I actually didn't for now. Just want to test some things out for a bit. Was reading about SSH-agent as well.

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>proud of my lil quiet server idling at 25W
>setup a UPS
>the UPS draws 30W by itself and makes random clicks and buzz sounds

>>101564321
>Because of write limits destroying the card over time, or IO limits?
You're not just gonna be sharing plain text, are you. Having to wait extra long for images and videos to buffer won't be fun.
>seems like a critical feature of the whole thing in my opinion
It's a big selling point, but it depends entirely on your needs. So make up your mind.

>>101564467
>So make up your mind.
Okay lets say I do then.

>>101564091
Odroid M1S maybe?
>Built in emmc storage
>m.2 slot (slow however)
>May or may not be stuck on their ubuntu release
Well, you should look around. rpi has been getting outdone by others.

>>101564556
Seems more competent, but I always worry about support for these non-raspberry pi SBCs. You can't deny that raspberries have way more people using them, even if they're worse.

What's the best torrenting client? Am running Transmissiom but web UI is clunky and slow, and big torrents often fail.

>>101564841
rtorrent
>Am running
bong detected

Best cheap PoE switch?

>>101565155
No bong, but was taught Bongistani in high school

>>101565353
cisco sg300

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Gonna migrate over from pfsense to opensense. Any gotcha's I should know about?

>>101558846
Anyone?

>>101554948
>gigabytes of big tittied fox girls
absent father?

>>101564091
Matrix does not care about you, unless you are a paying customer to Matthew and share his ideologies and views about people for support.
https://compound.element.io/?path=/docs/content-audience-first--docs
>Honestly I would probably only use it to communicate with my family
WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal all do communication better than any self-hosted chat for this purpose. Trying to self-host a chat is a fool's errand.
And businesses would use Slack or Teams.

>>101566843
Trash, and not an actual Cisco IOS switch.

>>101567189
OPNsense does not have enterprise support available. No LTS versions. A downgrade in every way.
Nevermind neither appear in magic quadrants, they aren't good firewalls to be relied upon.

>>101567828
Sure, I'm willing to sacrifice something to have it all in hand as opposed to have to rely on other people's servers.

Wassup y'all. I was scanning a 12tb and 14tb drive with badblocks which are gonna be used for my home server.

I lost power to my computer and the system turned off halfway through the badblocks scan.
Each drive was about 50% done after 100 or so hours.

It showed 0 errors and I made bad blocks write the errors on each drive to their own log file, there were no errors on either one.

What would y'all do in this situation? Would you just start over or is this good enough for you?

>>101568005
Just run a smart test and be done with it. As long as you have redundancy and backups you'll be fine.

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>>101520926
whats the cheapest homeserver infrastructure that can run two 3090s with two more for an upgrade path?

never dabbled with servers really, only desktop parts, pls be kind

After buying 100 poweredge drive caddies, I now learned why the blanks exist instead of just leaving caddies empty.

>>101568127
>homeserver
>3090
Those two terms are incompatible.
>never dabbled with servers really, only desktop parts, pls be kind
Oh.

>>101522930
I'm running zoneminder.
It fucking loves memory.
4gb's per camera.
Nice thing is the guy who developed Zoneminder has you tube videos on setting it up.

>>101568698
3090s are for ML
mostly for inferencing and some training

>>101528228
Look up Icydock

>>101568786
GeForce EULA.
>No Datacenter Deployment. The SOFTWARE is not licensed for datacenter deployment, except that blockchain processing in a datacenter is permitted.

>>101529113
See how there are no indents or the rails that hold up drives in a 5.25?You have to bend them all if you want to use that in a regular case.

>>101568827
uhhh ok? thanks for answering

>>101568827
He is not in a datacenter

Can I host a Matrix server at home and have calls actually work, while one caller is on the same network as the server? Every guide I read says that it's impossible and that I need an external STUN/TURN server hosted somewhere other than the local network.

>>101567866
Name cheaper better ones

>>101521894
>>101528361
>>101528502
>>101528962
>>101529212
>>101529397
>>101532583
>>101532635
>>101533039
>>101534897
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>>101543579
>>101553147
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>>101554656
>>101554679
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>>101566843
>>101567877
>>101568698
>>101568827
Can you fuck off please

>>101569104
coturn is best practice anyway to punch holes in NAT.

>101569116
no

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>>101569116
>t. anonymous

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>>101564091
>What server would you recommend?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx2bo__naP0

>>101569121
Right. But can I do this without hosting a separate, external server somewhere else, is my question.

>>101569288
It's implied to not have coturn behind NAT, because the coturn STUN/TURN servers will be contacted when direct connections fail (due to NAT or other reasons). The answer depends on if coturn's network is publicly reachable and behind NAT or not.

>>101564091
>kinda iffy on using beta software for communication.
Then Matrix isn't for you, or your family. See the thousands of open issues on GitHub for several years.
https://github.com/matrix-org/synapse/issues
https://github.com/element-hq/synapse/issues
https://github.com/element-hq/element-web/issues

>>101569334
So if I'm understanding you correctly, as long as coturn is publicly reachable and not behind NAT, I will be able to connect to peers that *are* behind NAT (same physical network as coturn/homeserver)? Sorry if this sounds retarded.

>>101569462
Sure, why not. YMMV.

>>101568827
>unenforceable software EULA
totally meaningless.
Server vendors were happily selling 8x3090 servers, and AI companies buying them (changed a bit with 4090 i believe, much harder to get those in 2-slot blower variant).
Not every company is training the latest and greatest LLM models, other fields like vision still exist, and might be completely fine on 3090s.

>>101568655
Why?

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>>101569116
>>101569270
at least one of those is me as well, little faggot loser HAHAHA stuff a mini pc in your bum bum

Reposting here because I was a retard that posted on /mkg/ (I am tired)

>I got a hp enterprise laptop from my workplace, and I plan to use it 24/7 as a home server for home assistant, a DNS server and other small goodies.
>Am I retarded and I should buy a energy efficient ARM board or will I be fine ?

>>101567742
nah furfags just suck and keep having meltdowns where they delete everything so i just back shit up now.

>>101570649
you'll be fine
try to get(steal) a dock too

>>101570649
>laptop
>plan to use it 24/7 as a home server
Retarded.
>I should buy a energy efficient ARM board
Also retarded, if used as a server.

>>101571088
I have one.

>>101571110
What should I use? I want it power efficient.

>>101571128
>What should I use? I want it power efficient.
A rackserver. Used by datacenters because they are power efficient, and appropriately have the most amount of support for this intended use case. Or use whatever you want, if you're willing to take more risks.
>t. anonymous

>>101571128
>I want it power efficient.
make sure you disable 'turbo boost' on the laptop and it's as efficient as it gets

>>101569274
That's not a Matrix server? That's what I was asking, Synapse, Conduit, etc.
>>101569437
Guess so, thanks. I keep coming back and looking if it's easy or ""mature""" now, and it never is.

>>101571199
>>101571175
>>101571128
>>101570910
>>101569974

New thread you guys:

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>>101571175
Yeah I know very well what a rack server is : loud as fuck. But I don't need that many fans and CPU for something that will almost never exceeds a LAV of 1.

>>101571199
Good idea

>>101571250
>Yeah I know very well what a rack server is : loud as fuck.
29 dBa is too loud?

>>101568091
Yeah I ran a long one before the badblockd. I will pronably run another kne incase. Also, one of the drives wouldn't run it for whatever reason, but I will try it again.

>>101570649
Start with what you have lying around and get new hardware as you figure out your needs. If you start looking at arm shit, avoid pis because they've become too expensive with their pointless BoM.
I've been shilling Odroid M1S for simple tasks since it doesn't piecemeal everything when you get one, but you might be stuck on ubuntu since I'm not sure how well other OSs will work on it.

>>101571259
depends on the frequency