Debian, Fedora, Gentoo and nixOS seems to be the truly unique and different base distributions with well oriented and different purposes.The core purpose of Arch is to be a minimal and simple system you can build from the ground up and have its packages as close to upstream as possible (implicit freeloading all the time).Nowadays, all base distros offer:>a simple minimal base image>an "official" repo with packages voted by the community to adopt>third party repo contributed by the community>an option to get packages as close to upstream as possible>Flatpak support (if used, makes repository arguments obsolete)What Arch doesn't offer though (and it's ok if you don't need it)>Stability by design (Rolling release is not STABLE by design) and you can get such release model with most base distros anyway>User friendly default image(s)>Software support (Freeloaders)>Reproducibility>Multiple Architecture support besides x86_64/aarch64 only (the official project doesn't)Gentoo, by simply allowing binaries now, has pretty much become a better Arch. Arch can't be called an enthusiast's distro neither, it's designed for cli larpers and arch developers. Any use case that you fulfill with Arch, you can easily fulfill it better with any other base distro.On the bright side, they have a wiki. Maybe Arch should become a Linux documentation institution instead of a distro.
>named arch>not even stableWhat the fuck were they thinking?
>>101544410OP is a faggot.
Arch offers:>minimalism and simplicityOf your shitty list of shitty meme distros, only gentoo has it>convenienceyeah gentoo is way too complicated>the fucking AURinb4 MUH NIXOSnixos is bloated as fuck and makes you learn a fucking laguage of bullshit. Arch is just LFS with pacman. Shame on you OP/thread
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>>101544517> minimalism> laughs in debian minimal iso being more minimal than arch, as well as fine grained packages being more minimal than arch's monolithic package model
>>101544517>Arch is just LFS with pacmani'm glad someone else finally noticed that. you literally have the same packages you'd get on LFS if you followed the systemd steps.
>>101544410It has cool asci art that shows up in my terminal.
>>101544592I don't like having a bunch of unrelated packages pulled in because they were more granular.
>>101544410What if you want an up-to-date distro that's not owned by Red Hat and has sane package management?
>>101545126Debian Unstable.
>>101545126>he thinks by not using a distro he's out of corporate influence>still uses the linux kernel
>>101544517>install kde>has to pull VLC and QT developer bullshitYeah. Minimal.
>>101544477nigger I've never had an issue after switching to AMD. get filtered
>>101545612hey nice thread you made 4 hours ago retard, KDE IS FUCKING QT. DUMBASS NIGGER
>>101545984I just built a brand new computer and plugged my Arch SSD and fucking everything was normal but faster, it's stable as a rock. I hope Manjaro dies soon because the premise of the distro no longer makes sense.
>>101544410>Gentoo, by simply allowing binaries now, has pretty much become a better Arch. Arch can't be called an enthusiast's distro neither, it's designed for cli larpers and arch developers. Any use case that you fulfill with Arch, you can easily fulfill it better with any other base distro.
>>101546010neither does endeavour's imo. the only nice thing it does is set up mdns for you so you're not stuck wondering why network printing doesn't work.
>>101546083Endeavour offers a graphical installer and comes with a desktop environment out of the box so it does have somewhat of a purpose but Manjaro should just die in the ditch because it's just the worse EndeavourOS at this point
>>101546106this, TMDTotal Manjaro Death
>>101544410and?normal people already don't use arch outsie of the semi-immutable steam deck os.this means the people who use arch already use arch because they want to use arch.
>>101545126gapedSUSE
>>101544410Tumbleweed is Arch but done well
>>101544410i don't care about placebo stability aka outdated packages
>>101544410CachyOS is the only good Arch.
>>101546837lolhttps://www.theregister.com/2024/07/23/cachyos_arch_linux/
>>101546562>done well>slow mirrors>no parallel downloads on package manager>prevents regular users from running sbin binaries>default fde scheme results in extremely slow dm-crypt unlock>overlap between yast and native gnome/kde tools>virtually zero relevant documentation
>>101546876OK all valid points but:>snapper with grub integration set up by default>yast for system admin GUI>amazing installer allowing you to tailor everything to your needa
>>101547079You also make good points, too but the things you list are either fixable or non-issues for Arch. The only real advantage to openSUSE is knowing that it ships with a properly-configured snapper. You can DIY on Arch, but with less confidence if you are inexperienced with snapper.>yastArchWiki>installerArchWiki
>>101546562What's the new name going to be now that it's transitioning?
>>101547147openGOOSE
>>101544592>laughs inKill yourself
>>101544410Didn't read + don't careWill continue using arch
>>101544517>yeah gentoo is way too complicatedthis is fake. all you need is qsearch and equery.
>>101544410>ReproducibilityYou can get Arch as cloud kvm image. i can easily reproduce how ever many instances I want.
>>101547203I'm trans btw
>>101547203my PENIS got HARD at this webm. NICE! HOT GIRL!
>>101547203source?
>>101547203this image... reproducibility
>>101544410arch doesn't work
Debian Sid is nowhere as good as Arch for desktop usage.Closest thing is Tumbleweed.
>>101544592>debian apt install simple_thing>300 new packagesThis modus operandi of splitting packages into "the smallest possible package" is niggerlicious.
