okay with this oxidation thing with intel im switching to Ryzenbut what motherboard do i use? normally i use the ROG Maximus hero series, whats a good AMD equivalent?
>>101555495ROG Crosshair Hero is the AMD equivalent.
open up the spreadsheet and pick a vrm that's able to handle your chip without overheatingit's not exactly complicated
Pick the cheapest chinky motherboard ever
>>101555495Why do you use the ROG Maximus Hero? If you're overclocking and running 6 GHz all core you're not gonna be able to do that on AMD, don't bother (at least if you don't want the CPU to degrade).
>>101555725considering intel CPUs are degrading without being overclocked then i don't really see the difference.
>>101555735Yeah, I mean, up until now it was believed Intel could run higher voltages than AMD, but that doesn't seem true anymore. You usually determine safe voltages on AMD by running a power virus like Prime95, but AMD runs really low voltages in those cases (at least 100mv below "normal" all core loads).
>>101555725The only thing people overclock these days is RAM and monitors
>>101555765So get a board that's good for RAM overclocking. Ryzen 9000 should handle higher frequencies in 1:1 mode.
>>101555765Yeah. Like how do you even test negative offsets in a curve optimizer? I tried it once, gained a bunch of points in Cinebench and found out that memtest86 suddenly started reporting much lower memory speed
>>101555797>memtest86 suddenly started reporting much lower memory speedCheck for WHEAs in Event Viewer. AMD tells you if your system is unstable.
>>101555811WHEA sounds like a Windows-specific thing, unless it corresponds to a hardware exception. I'm also not sure if an offset on one core affects the stability of other cores, because if it does then the amount of testing you have to do grows quadratically with the number of cores. Is there anything I can do to test stability on Linux?
>>101555495ryzen CPUs explode
>>101555876>unless it corresponds to a hardware exceptionIt's a hardware exception, they're called MCEs and they show up in dmesg on Linux. journalctl --grep=MCE>I'm also not sure if an offset on one core affects the stability of other coresNo they don't, at least not directly. That core could be corrupting memory and then obviously it will affect the others.>Is there anything I can do to test stability on LinuxThere's no convenient tool like CoreCycler on Linux, so you're gonna have to use taskset and set affinity manually.
>>101555880Only on shitty ANUS boards.
>>101555952>they're called MCEs and they show up in dmesg on Linux-30 on all cores coming in hotlet's break this fucking F2FS partition
>>101555495Asus is bad for AM5. Asrock and Gigabyte are the best.
The boundaries of the nm architecture are being tested (by end users). Too bad it couldn't have been discovered (or paid attention to by exec's during r&d).
>>101555495>there is an entire active general dedicated to building computersdumb nigger
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Apple doesn't have the issues AMD and Intel are facing
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>>101557579>amdrone has to hide from inconvenient truthssuch a big, strong, white man you are
no one asked
>>101555495you're switching to ryzen because you're currently having a problem? or you're switching because you're a cpu horserace fag?
>>101555765They don't even do that, RAM OC is handled by the MB nowadays. 6000CL30 is king for Ryzen, no benefit for going higher.
>>101555495First, find out if you're actually having or likely to have a rusty intcel problem or not; its quite possible your CPU is fine especially if its not from the past 2 generations or so. That said, moving to AMD is a good move overall in many cases and/or new builds As >>101555564 said, the equivalent if you like Asus top end boards (ie if you used to use Z-chipsets on Intel like Z790 or Z690 etc), for Asus AMD is typically "Crosshair" named (as opposed to Maximus being Intel mainstream chipsets high end variant). >AM5 socket AMD CPUs - 7800X3D for gaming, 7950X3D for gaming+mixed used enthusiast work, 7950X now or soon upcoming 9950X for JUST multithreaded productivity work. 9000 series 3D Cache coming in Sept. Anyway, if you use the above and need to buy now >Asus ROG Crosshair X670E ... >Extreme = super top end EATX >Hero = a step down ATX. Compare features, but still excellent probably best value>Gene - mATX smaller form factor. Don't get this unless you need the smaller form factor. Also realize its mATX NOT mITX. So those are your best options close to what you have. I actually have a 7950X3D and an Extreme I'm building right now and its probably the best on the chipset at the moment. I compared it to other manufacturers and generally it comes down to tradeoffs >Other manufacturers high ends X670E = MSI MEG GODLIKE, AORUS Xtreme, AsRock TaiChi Carrera Generally I'd go for the Asus for the features build quality and the like. MSI Godlike costs more and has an extra slot for M.2 but lower bandwidth; it also has a stand alone LCD screen instead of embedded, but NO USB4. Aorus is underwhelming. AsRock TaiChi Carrera is bit cheaper but also has USB4; lacks a few other things like more than one M.2 PCI5 slot and it JUST has 2 PCI-E x16 unlike the extra x4 slot on the Asus Extreme etc. Anyway, lots of options some better than others. Also there's lower end chipsets X670 and B650 etc.
>>101555495Zen 5 is already oxidizing which is why AMD delayed the release.
>>101557509apple uses arm so that's irrelevant
>>101557481>mobo manufacturer (asus) ignoring voltage specsnot AMDs fault
>>101558258Another reason to not get asus I guess. What's a good midrange motherboard for it then?
>>101555495AsRock Taichi + 7950X3D here
>>101558275amd users only buy gigabyte or asrock boards so go look at their websites
>>101558320Gigabyte is good? Their prices seem OK. Someone I know hates them and not sure why.
>>101558361>Gigabyte is good?depending on the board you choose yessome of their refresh boards for the same model can be hit or miss though>Someone I know hates them and not sure why.their bioses kinda suck, their pci-e layouts aren't the greatest on a lot of models, and they have way more boards with usb audio realtek chipsets that windows hates than other board partners
>>101558258>>101558275The annoyance with Asus on this issue was overblown by techtubers to say the least. Ironically, Asus got fucked over by being the first one to provide beta BIOS updates to try and fix the shit (which by the way was VERY infrequent - something stated at the start of the issue but then conveniently ignored and pretending to act like every third motherboard/CPU was blowing up was good marketing) but of course it couldn't be fixed without AGESA updates too. Overall there's nothing wrong with Asus boards. You can compare others at a given tier and that's fine but they tend to come out ahead of many (at least on the high end 'named' families vs equivalents) depending on what you need and what you want to pay.
>>101558457>depending on the boardThe one I had been looking at was the Aorus Elite AX x670 one.
>>101558527https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGR2dA25a5o
>>101558361>Gigabyte is goodhad 2 gigabyte boards fail over the years. one z87 after 6 years, one b450 a few months after bought. >AsusNever had one fail from 3 boards in total. Fan Control is kind of weird though, minimum speeds the board allows are locked and way too high for any normal fan. Have to use a fan controller because of that. >AsrockAlso never had any board fail out of 2. Usually has very good USB and ports, also a bit cheaper than Asus and Gigabyte. Probably will be the next manifacturer I choose from.
lol 9000 series just got recalled from system integrators.
>>101558634My current one is Asus and it died, that's why I was considering gigabyte (and the price seemed good).
