Intelbros... another shoah...
my computer (13th gen intel) freezes whenever my cat jumps on it and i have to hard resetis this intel's fault?
>>101588534>Cremation Processing Unit
>>101588558Your cat can sense faulty jewish CPUs, give him a treat
>>101588534Upcoming cpus are unstable too lmao
>>101588534This should be obvious, no? We've been told it's a manufacturing issue that will oxidize part of the CPUs (and that means the chip itself)... Which means the CPU gets fucked and gets worse with use.
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>>101588701>The leading theory inside Intel right now, and it is just a theory, is that the Ring Bus is getting cooked because it's fed by the same rail as the P-coresWhy is Intel so stupid? Why are they feeding the ring bus from the same voltage rail as the cores? AMD runs the infinity fabric at a fixed 900-1100 mV.
>>101588735Because it's cheaper
>>101588735Its a holdover from the skylake architectureIt has never been a problem until they started shoving >1.45v into chips to compete with zen4
>>101588735The current Intel engineers are the ones they poached from apple, so they have no idea what to do in a desktop environment and keep trying to make mobile shit. It's why they started the p and E-cores shit.
>>101588764I think this disaster has been more expensive than anything Intel could have done at the design stage.
>>101588795Only cause shit started dying to soon, next time they'll make sure the chips start dying right after the warranty runs out.
>>101588782I think the P E core shit is caused by infighting factions in intlel. E-cores are designed in Intel USA while P-cores are designed in Intel IsraelE-cores are winning with Skymont +30/68% ipc and will make the P-core team obsolete soon enough
>>101588735The real question is: why the fuck is intel still using a ring bus in the Year Of Our Lord 2024?
>>101588808Ring bus is breddy based thoIts what amd uses in their ccx for zen3 and zen4 until they changed to a ladder interconnect in zen5
>>101588701>>101588660>moores law is dead """""leaks""""""lol
>>101588813Yea but they weren't pushing 1.5v at it, and they were in TSMCs best nodes.
>>101588852Buildzoid was concerned about the same thing weeks ago.
>>101588807>Skymont +30/68% ipcYea but remember that before this E-cores weren't actual real cores, they were at best MT accelerators. So the %30+ increase of skymont is just them finally making them full cores(minus avx512) plus whatever going to tsmc 3nm gives them
>>101588807I strongly doubt this. Modern cpus are speculative, out of order and superscaler so trying to find serial instructions that can be executed in parallel and sometimes executing instructions the results of which have to be discarded because a branch was incorrectly speculated down.P-cores are always going to pull every trick in the book to try and extract the highest performance possible by being as aggressive as possible on each of these techniques as well as speculatively prefetching blocks of memory. All of these aggressive techniques burn a lot of power, but do increase IPC.The e-cores are great because they can run more threads, far more efficiently, but slower because they don't use these techniques as aggressively. This is why the p-core and e-core designs are separate and probably won't compete - they enhance each other.The e-cores are 'easy' to design because they use design techniques found for generations previous p-core designs and they use less aggressive implementations.
>>101589001Intel's e-cores have a lot more room to grow while p-cores carry a lot of baggage and are already extremely bloated in their current form. I believe skymont takes up 1/3 the area of lion cove.Skymont supposedly has RPL IPC +2% but they are leaked to clock in the 4.5ghz range so it'd need another 25% more IPC to reach parity with a 5.7ghz lion cove
>>101588534So just RMA it?
13900KS at 6Ghz all core.Works on my machine.
>>101588534Was going to get 14th gen last month but seen threads on /g/, did some research and glad I didn't. Going 12900 or 12700, need something that can somewhat keep up with a 4070 super ti
>>101588597kek
my c2d does not have this problem
>>101588558Yes. Form a class action lawsuit and sue Israel
>>101589880Homogeneous cores are better.
>>101590222My cpu, my ethnostate.
>>101588660>>101588701I've seen most of these "leaks" discussed here or on yt for days. Does MLID even get real leaks now or just steal stuff and hope people don't find the source?
>>101589775>RMA breaks outside of warranty in the exact same way
>>101588808it just werked
why are these pajeets trying so hard to convert intel users to amdyou think your 1.5v idle poozen is not degrading?
>>101590512raptorlake uses 1.6v no wonder those pop after a year of use
>>101588701Intel's wafers cost $78-93k (Tesla Model X MSRP)? What the fuck. TSMC is charging around $20k, and that includes TSMC's very healthy profit margin (over 50% iirc). Intel only sells to themselves and it *costs* them 4 times as much?>>101588807>Skymont +30/68% ipcFucking lies. Intel's 38% integer IPC increase is compared to Meteor Lake LP-E cores which have NO CACHE. Meteor Lake's E cores are already 32% better than the LP-E cores at same frequency solely because of cache. Actual integer IPC increase is therefore less than 6%.
>13700KF>360mm arctic cooler AIO>Had no issues, just updated bios nowAm I in the clear bros...
>>101590935No, you have a spy cpu.
>>101588558your cat is an antisemite Hamas terrorist
>>101590942Thats okay they can look at anime girls with big booba with me
>>101590935>he bought intlel after the estrogen-cores bullshitlollmao even
>>101590530"protect silicon" coming soon as a feature of advanced motherboards.
>>101588534Imagine actually having bought an Intel housefire in the first place. You get what you deserve.
>>101590952GOOD GOY
>>101590955>schizo still seething about eCores years later
>>101588558Your cat is a ebul nazi
>>101590512Why are you jews telling to move on their is nothing to see here when there obviously is
Alder Lake bros stay winning...sorta.
>>101590995>years laterShit ideas don't suddenly become good just because years have passed
>>101591036>more cores = badget a load of this niggaprobably one of those seething Ryzen 3600 users that have this weird superiority complex.
>>101590942Every CPU is a spy CPU. Don't be a mark.
>>101591046I rather have 8 functioning cores than 4 cores and 12 trannie cores
>>101591076What CPU has 8 P cores and 12 E cores?And would you buy it if you didn't want it?
Why is there an autist in every CPU thread sperging out about E cores?
>>101591089Its probably the same guy
>>101589798for now
>>101591082The whole point is that you get cuckcores that should been real cores. It just intelaviv humiliating the goyim.
>>101589880get a 7800x3d retard
>>101590935failure rate is lower on the 700ers but id still sell the system if I were you
>>101588534>tfw you didn't fall for the meme-cores:)
>>101591046I mean yeah its the same with Ayymds CCDs. If you get one that has 2 you get latency problems. Its similiar with the troony Estrogen Cores
>>101591146this is a cool image whats the origin?
>>101591184I got i from a /b/ bait thread
>>101591089Not the same guy, big.SHITTLE was a bad meme for the desktop. The last good, stable, performant Intel CPU was the 10900k.
Intel will go bankrupt?
>>101591089Estrogen cores make no sense in a Desktop PC
>>101591046lollmao even
>>101591264As someone who used lga1700 i9s for 2 years, I can say it's pretty bad as expected. You get random lags and hangups on desktop tasks like opening folders that didn't exist on older homogeneous intel CPUs or on single ccx ryzens.
Worst thing for me is that by the time I'll get to upgrade my rig this shameful show will be long forgotten and I may end up with one of these suicidal chips...
>>101591089Just autism. Same goes for the 2500k poster, 16GiB poster, baby duck guy. Hell, might all be the same guy.
>>101591323And how does this relate to real world performance?
>>101591437what kind of dogshit ram timings are these guys running
>>101591428get a load of this shizo. its all the same guy
>>101591557Ddr5 5200 cl44 lol
>>101590603That wafer cost figure doesn't make sense.They'll only be able to yield about 220 raptorlake chips at most on a 300mm wafer meaning that at the lowest cost of $78k, each chip will need to be sold at $355 to break even. And there's no way they're gonna be yielding 100% functional chips let alone have enough chips that meet the quality standards of an i7
>>101591332I feel like I`m going crazy ever since all this negative reporting started it feels like my 13900K has gotten slower
>>101591600you get microcode updates in both linux and windows
>>101591557>>101591587Oh shit, it's real.DDR5-5200 CL44Slow as fuck
when will you retards learn that AMD just makes better CPUs these days?>inb4 paid shillAMD was shit before Ryzen, and still makes mediocre GPUs, but when it comes to CPUs there is no contest.
>>101591664Honestly now is the time to get in on them before AMD goes full jew with all the market they are claiming. You know it's going to happen, there are signs already.
>>101591664>AMD was shit before RyzenFirst 64 bit cpuFirst integrated memory controllerFirst multi core cpuAnd my FX-8350 is BUSSIN
>>101591664>AMD was shit before RyzenStill has the fastest non-backdoor CPU btw.
>>101591089>Guhhh why is there an autist in every GTX 970 thread complaining about VRAM durrr
all you ayymd guys in here to read all about the intel burn, remember.AM4 I know for certain, if you have the x3d to do that thing to it to keep it from throttling to your processor. did it to mine and saw it not throttling any morehttps://github.com/PrimeO7/How-to-undervolt-AMD-RYZEN-5800X3D-Guide-with-PBO2-Tuner/blob/main/README.md
>>101591706>luxury 3D processorMr Moneybags over here
>>101591711its only 250$ or so now its not that expensive. i spend some on a processor, i used to in 2002 spend 100 and think holy shit but also i never saved for anything just spent when i had it because anything was an upgrade over my celeron
>>101591600>>101591612Will have another CPU pre-microcode update to sell for increased price :)Never updated for spectre/meltdown and won't update for the jewish microcode performance decreaser.
>>101591673YeahWHERE ARE THE PRICES FOR RYZEN 9000?!?
>>101591730You really should unless you like having 1.52v shoved into your i9-14900k
>>101591750>he runs stock
>>101591664based and x3d pilled
>>101591664From early leaks, looks like 9000 series isn't much better. Intel is still the gaming king.
What's a x86 cpu?
>>101588534I've paid out the ass for a top-of-the-line laptop. If this shit breaks in less than 10 years because of Intel, the ACCC is gonna hear about it. I will be getting another one which does not fuck up on Intel's dime.
>>1015918145 shekels have been deposited into your account
>>101591836>he doesn't knowproduct of mainstream "techtubers" lmao.
>>101591600just wait for the microcode update goyim
>>101591814>looking at pre-microcode update benchmarks
>>101588597Two Lucky Strikes in a row. Smoke 'em if ya got 'em intelBros.
>>101591850Won't make a difference for me anyway. I can't be bothered re-doing all my settings.
>>101588534My non-oc'd 13600k on a z790 mobo with the last bios they made for 13th gen cpus runs at a stable 38°C.
>>101588735Because a power filter would require an redesign and Raptor Lake was likely already taped out. Its designers weren't expecting the voltage boost from Alder Lake but marketing demanded a clockspeed bump to keep-up with Zen4 and this require most of the silicon yields to go to danger zone-level voltages to reach such speeds.The red flags were there when Intel first tease the boost speeds and their new " thermal velocity boost" system.
So, are 13th-14th in laptops in the clear or not? I'm scared to even play old games on my budget laptop right now.
>>101591980https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/intel-says-13th-and-14th-gen-mobile-cpus-are-crashing-but-not-due-to-the-same-bug-as-desktop-chips-chipmaker-blames-common-software-and-hardware-issues
>>101591437Not much, unless you are taxing the crap out of both CCDs. You will notice it will notice that multi-task will feel more sluggish. You know that dual CCD SKUs are effectively a 2P setup?
>>101591937That's not even a good excuseIntel releases a new socket every 2 years so they had many chances to separate the cache/ring voltage from core especially after knowingly programming 1.5v+ in 10850K/10900K's
>>101591724same here, it's easy to buy high quality products if you just wait and save, and let the consumerist_NPCs test the crap before you buy it so that you know for sure if it's fucked up and kiked or not.t. 12th gen Intel CPU owner
>>101588534No refunds.
I've had several hard resets out of nowhere just idling 2 days ago. I guess this is it? So I should lower the voltage in the bios?
>>101592361Or is it the microcode update causing the instability when it was previously stable since Feb 2023
>>101592361>>101592375nah sounds like your cpu degraded over time. You should RMA it asap.
>>101588534is there actually any real proof of this happening
AMD IS POOP ,SMELLY INDIAN POOP, HAHATHEY ARE MADE IN INDIASHIT AS SLOW PROCESSORS, IT IS A FUCKING JOKE-- DO NOT REDEEEEEM ---- DO NOT REDEEEEEM --AMD IS SHITTING IN THE STREETSLMAO AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHOW DUMB CAN YOU BE TO GET AMD. IT IS A FUCKING JOKELMAO I BET THEY SMELL LIKE SHIT TOOA JOKE!INTEL IS THE BEST,EVEN WITH THAT SMALL BUG INTEL IS STILL THE BEST, DO YOU HEAR ME?????FUCK AMD - FUCK AMD - FUCK AMD - FUCK AMD - FUCK AMD - FUCK AMD - FUCK AMD - FUCK AMD - FUCK AMD
Intel is toast
>>101591675Shit after Bulldozer and before Ryzen *
>>101592418Intel themselves admitting it is not enough proof for you?https://community.intel.com/t5/Processors/July-2024-Update-on-Instability-Reports-on-Intel-Core-13th-and/m-p/1617113
>bought israeli 14900KF in January>haven't had problems, but did see the occasional MCE when fucking around with XMP/trying to undervolt>used Dasharo UEFI since March, which uses Intel default power limitsam I cooked bros?
>>101590438An RMA resets the warranty clock though, right?
>>101592980No
>>101590935Same cpu, same cooler. Idk what to do, I've had no problems yet, but I'm in Europe so I have 3 years warranty so I'll probably contact Intel on the third year and ask for a new cpu and maybe they'll send me a new generation one. Hopeful thinking, I know but I'll still try.
>>101592980jews are immune to such jewish tricks
>>101592980((laughing))
>>101592929you are deep fried my fren
>>101592929irnoically, nothing short of a manual overclock that ensures your cpu never gets fed more than 1.45v will be effective in protecting your cpuintel's defaults are highly dangerous and cooking the cpus' interconnects
>>101588534this is anti-semitism
>estrogen cores
>>101591148What reason should I go for amd? For now, this will be the last time I buy intelaviv, unless they do some crazy shit in the future
>>101593368I guess I have a golden sample CPUThis is from playing MC at 1700fps
>>101594313stability kek
