>>101591803
Why did you remove 3060 from the gpu recommendations op?

>>101591803
is 6800xt enough for 1440p 60fps medium gayming until 2030?

Alright, so I'm building my PC right and wanna know the latest wisdom on thermal paste application. Gonna do an X with dots, any other opinions?

>>101591853
draw a pentagram with paste

My question from previous bred >>101591879

>>101591853
As long as the IHS is covered it absolutely does not matter.

Asking again, always used Intel, thinking of building an AMD system on a B650 motherboard, will it just work out of the box with ethernet and bios or will i have to sift through drivers by hand and install stuff over USB?

I just want it to werk out of the box like Intel

>>101591898
>4060ti for $180
You sure you're not getting a box only or something?

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Is this still relevant in current year? What are the implications?

>>101591911
>I just want it to werk out of the box like Intel
Technically intel doesn't either - you're just using whatever the fuck drivers MS ships in windows (or whatever the fuck is shipped with the linux kernel). You're meant to source drivers for both vendors.

>>101591851
yes

>>101591911
it just werks but you can install ryzen master to turn on expo so you don't have to go into the bios if it scares you.

>>101591851
Ask your local palm reader instead.

>>101591898
Isn't Windforce like 2.x slot instead of a true two slot?
May not fit in SFF depending on the case.

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>>101591912
Very true.... But my mind is around a 4060 ti, that's for sure. Also why is there so much RAM and Ssd shortage. Corona virus been over since forever. Are they still bitcoing farming?

>>101591929
But will an AMD motherboard boot into windows with functioning lan drivers out of the box or not?

>>101591949
Asus prime ap201 case looks fun to build around.

>>101591853
>put a nice amount
>spread it with the spreader

how does a hobbyist workstation cpu like 7900X does versus the gaming 7800X3D
does it really matters much?

>>101591964
Yes.

>>101592014
Yes as in it will work fine out of the box or Yes as in it will require a bunch of manual updating

>>101591851
It has 16GB, it should be fine.

>>101591861
>>101591899
>>101591983
Thanks, does it matter what direction the 4-pin fan cables go in?

>>101592019
Just look up the motherboard components for the one you want to see if windows ships with a compatible lan driver. That is a motherboard manufacturer issue not an AMD issue.

>>101591954
they make less of them to keep prices high

>>101591985
the x3d gives you more fps the 7900x gives you a higher cinebench score

>>101592076
I’m looking at the Asus B650E-I

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RXcy6D

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7500F 3.7 GHz 6-Core OEM/Tray Processor
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($35.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B650 Steel Legend WiFi ATX AM5 Motherboard
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($104.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital WD_Black SN850X 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte AERO OC GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER 12 GB Video Card ($641.58 @ Amazon)
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 216 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case ($94.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS GX-750 ATX 3.0 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ B&H)

Thoughts? I will probably pay like $1866 for the build.

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>>101592114
why is that

>>101592123
Ok so look up the lan controller for every motherboard until you find one that works with windows ootb

>>101592128
AMD paid TSMC to develop a way to weld a layer of cache on the top of their CPU core dies, it allows the CPUs to really stretch their legs and benefits even applications and games that aren't cache bound because the cache pool is so large the CPU doesn't have to go out to the RAM as much.
some applications and games do not benefit much but most do.

>>101591954
>my mind is around a 4060 ti, that's for sure
It's a card that fits the purpose, but only for the right price. When I was searching for a card for my small build, the 4060ti was compact enough for it, but the absolute cheapest one I could find was 400€. I knew it was a very mediocre price, but I needed A card, since my 3060ti had exploded a few days before. In any case, a couple days after buying the 4060ti, I found a refurbished small 4070 for 450€, and needless to say I returned it on the spot.
$180 is an insane price for a 4060ti, let alone a 16gb one, but again I feel it's too cheap, you need to pay attention because it might also be a broken card for parts only.

Small question about this whole Intel panic - I saw sites claiming some huge failure rates, up to 50% but how is it possible that these problems were unnoticed until now? I mean, I use i7-13700 (non K) for over year now and I didn't notice anything wrong. Yet, according to these people, my CPU should be long broken. What should I think about it? It's not like I can invest into whole new PC, especially since AMD motherboards are more expensive, just like their CPUs, at least in my country. And I would need to replace DDR4 memory with DDR5, for further costs.

I'm scared, honestly.

>>101592128
>more cache = more better
but only for gayming

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>wanted to buy a cheap, used 12600K for a friend
>they're all over 200€ now
FUCK, I'm never waitfagging again.

>>101592128
Games are cache dependent so they benefit more from the X3D, but the X3D chips have to be clocked a bit lower because there's that whole cache layers between the CPU cores and the heat spreader, so if you don't need the cache it's a bit slower.

>>101592209
>buying a dogshit overheating piece of trash for a friend
Not a very good friend you are.
Ryzen 5 7600 goes for 150 USD worst case

>>101592209
if you're budget conscious why wouldnt you just buy amd

>>101592222
as of am5 amd is no longer the budget brand
intel i5s are budget buys

>>101592222
>why wouldnt you just buy amd
because the friend in question already got a B660 board
>>101592220
>Ryzen 5 7600 goes for 150 USD worst case
DDR5 + B650 boards are expensive

>>101592186
Those 50% claims come from datacenters running those CPUs 24/7, they're going to wear out many times faster than a home user.
Also failure doesn't necessarily mean the CPU is destroyed, it can be an occasional crash.
Also there's the issue of silicon lottery and binning. You can get lucky and get a good sample that will never break, or get unlucky and get a shitty one, it could also be that an entire batch was bad.
Intel admitted they had oxidation issues at one of their plants for some time, processors produced during that time might be more error prone. It could be that the datacenter complaining about 50% failures got one of those batches and on average it's not as bad.

>>101592218
>>101592205
>>101592171
for how long can i stay with my 5700X3D that i bought this year reasonably

>>101592259
>hurr B650M and DDR5 expensive
It's not like Intel where you have to buy a new motherboard every gen

>>101592266
a decade?

>>101592186
Normies have their computers filled with bloat and everything is slow and crashes all the time even without any cpu hardware failures. The problem just blends in.

>>101592276
nigger, are you really telling me to buy a new board + new CPU + DDR5 ram when I ALREADY have a decent B660 + 32GB DDR4? Fuck outta here with that nonsense.

>>101592276
or in the case of 13th and 14th gen you need to buy both intel and amd boards

>>101592186
Intel is so fucked up so glad I didn't buy from those pieces of shit.

>>101592259
Well it's not like AM4 is now unusable then. And don't be afraid to check used/refurbished parts as well. A couple weeks ago I nabbed a 5600X + B550 MSI board, both B-Stock from the store with warranty, for 190€.

>>101592291
>B660 (Intel)
>AM4 (AMD)
LMAO
>reading
>comprehension

>>101592265
nope, whole 13th gen are affected

>>101592286
if you insist just wait for new 14thgen intel revision or new stepping.

>>101592303
Then don't get your friend's B660 board you retarded gorilla nigger.

>>101592321
He already has it you double nigger. Just needs a CPU

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>>101592068
The little groove part is where it should line up with the header.

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>>101592308
>nope, whole 13th gen are affected
Whole 13th gen is affected, but on top of that some batches were also affected by the oxidation issue that could make it even worse.

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>>101592286
>dogshit motherboard that hosts nothing but overheating intel kikeshit CPUs
>dogshit RAM to boot
Subhuman Intel niggers don't deserve to live.

>>101592266
some people are still running Sandy Bridge CPUs for some reason, honestly the X3D chips are probably good until the i3/r3s start making them look bad and even then they'll still be usable like how Sandy Bridge is still usable

>>101592329
Just sell the mobo and RAM and buy AM5. Intel motherboards are worth less than cardboard. DDR4 is dogshit slow.

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>>101592351
They never learn, do they?

>>101592140
But how do i know if the motherboard i am looking at works with ethernet out of the box? All it says on Asus website is the type of port it is

My PC is currently completely dead, nothing happens when trying to turn it on.
I took out the motherboard, left only the CPU and the cooler, plugged in the PSU cables and tried to power it up with the ol' screwdriver, nothing fucking happens.
Took out the CPU, still nothing.
Changed the PSU, still nothing (the lights on my mobo light up for a split second when turning the PSU on).
Is the motherboard being dead the only possible explanation here?

>>101592386
find people who have the tools to test each of your components
RMA

>>101592386
no lights, no fans? (not even attempting to spin?)

anyone ever use an acer gpu? I'm looking to upgrade and there are acer nitro 7700 and 7800 xt cards much cheaper than any other models of the same cards.
reviews and info on these cards seems thin on the ground and it's putting me off

Should I keep my HDD cage at the bottom of my case near where the PSU goes in if I don't install any HDDs? It doesn't seem like there's any point in removing it.

>>101592402
No lights, no fans, absolutely nothing happens.
The only sign of "life" is, like I mentioned, that the lights on the mobo light up for a split second only when turning on the PSU. After that, nothing.

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>>101592286
enjoy your stability problems faggot

>>101592436
yeah she's probably rooted. RMA.
is it an older platform? might be time for an upgrade.

>>101592453
>yeah she's probably rooted. RMA.
It's literally a month since the warranty period ended. Calculated fucking hardware failure.
>is it an older platform? might be time for an upgrade.
Bought a 4080 Super along with a new case (Lancool III) and just moved the old mobo (Aorus B550) with 5800X3D to the new case.
Got "No Signal" yesterday and gave up troubleshooting, and today it's completely dead.
Funny thing, I discovered that the pins on the 5800X3D are also bent for some fucking reason, so even if I wanted to stay on AM4 I can't do that anymore.

hoping for intel to fully move to TSMC so when TSMC dies the west falls so hard we finally get a humanity remake

So I'm making my PC without the GPU for now. I need only 3 cables connected to my PSU, right? The motherboard, CPU and power cable?

>>101592519
You'll need the 24pin power cable and whatever is the minimum requirement EPS connector (which is likely 6pin but read the manual) for the motherboard.

>>101592379
If you're already having trouble at this stage you're going to want to just put that driver on a usb stick, it will be a lot easier for you.

>>101592519
the ssds and hdds need power too

>>101592477
have you tried doing a CMOS clear?
>bent for some reason
such is the life of a PGA socket, they squeeze every pin, AMD should have moved away from them a long time ago but they were hemorrhaging money. they should have put Ryzen on FR6 but I guess they figured it was cheaper to do AM4.
>even if I wanted to stay on AM4 I can't do that anymore.
I'd give it a shot on another B550, but yeah might be best to just go AM5 and sell the 5800X3D

>>101592536
Yeah, that one. I installed it.
>>101592543
From where?

>>101591803
>AVOID: 13th & 14th gen Intel until mid-August
Should I sell my 13th gen Intel now? It's a non-K 13700 on a B660 board and it's been fine for over a year now.

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Anons, I'm planning on getting a tower cooler for my 5600x. While scrolling I saw this dual fan low profile cooler. Are they better or worst than a regular tower cooler? Or should I just get a peerless assassin

>>101592577
Don't get a Peerless assassin, get the Phantom Spirit if you want to go that route.

>>101592577
>peerless assassin
Already outdated. Get the Phantom Spirit instead.

>>101592559
sata power cable

>>101592608
Am I supposed to use the SATA cable with an SSD?

>>101592614
if you use sata ssd

>>101592563
its probably fine if its non K on a B660, the problems are from overvolting the ring bus and contaminated silicon in some batches. a microcode patch is coming out next month.
its just an "avoid buying new" situation right now, if the CPU dies Intel will probably replace it.

>>101592614
not if its NVME

>>101592577
It was good when it was cheap.

>>101592366
>Just sell the mobo and RAM and buy AM5
why? there would be very little performance improvement compared to a 12600K/12400F with DDR4

thoughs on ZOTAC?
the card looks beautiful

>>101592597
>>101592603
Aight ,thanks anons

>>101592444
not that anon but I've been enjoying my 12700K for a good 2+ years now. Didn't get cucked by Intelaviv's 13th and 14th gen

>>101592626
>dude just updoooot
I guess he is just an updooter. These retards are so fucking annoying and irritating!

>>101592618
>>101592619
It's NVMe, so I'm fine. I'm still curious what is this EPS connector. The only cables left I can use are labeled VGA, PERIF and SATA. I already recognized the 12VHPWR cable for the GPU and separated it.

>>101592639
>These retards are so fucking annoying and irritating!
I get the reason to upgrade when there's a god performance improvement, but in my case the difference would be too small to notice. These niggers are really suggesting I sell a decent B660 board + DDR4 combo in order to waste even more money getting a B650 + DR45 + AMD CPU.

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>xbox Series X 1TB Diablo 4 bundle - $510
>Microsoft Elite controller - $150
>Seagate 2TB SSD memory card - $250

want to play games like the Warzone/the new CoD when it comes out. Various AAA titles as they come out as well. What I mentioned above comes out to sub $1000 shipped to my door. how much money would I have to spend to get comparable performance on my 4K living room TV with a PC? I don't care if I have to take advantage of the various tricks used to get higher frames at higher resolutions. At this point I just want to play games with my friends.

>>101592639
Nigger this started because the anon can't find a 12600k for cheap to plop in that board. It makes a lot of sense to sell the board and ram and get an am5 platform, or just sell the board for an am4 one.

>>101592552
>have you tried doing a CMOS clear?
Yeah, tried doing basically everything except testing with a different mobo.
>might be best to just go AM5 and sell the 5800X3D
I guess I'll just pay for a new AM5 motherboard and 7800X3D. I'm not sure I want to sell a CPU with its pins bent to shit on every side.
At this point I wonder if my mobo had a defective socket.

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>>101592619
>its probably fine if its non K on a B660
That's great to hear.
>the problems are from overvolting the ring bus and contaminated silicon in some batches
Forgot to add that mine is on the ASUS Enhanced mode where the power limit is removed. But I haven't had any issues so far.
>a microcode patch is coming out next month.
Will that patch tank performance?

>>101592209
Just buy 13400 then, it's the same CPU but you can't overclock it.

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Well. Used 12600kf from reliable seller costs 50% from new one. Also you can use coupons from seller and get a new cpu for 200 buckaroo.

>>101591803
Fellas what mouse do I buy?

>>101592308
>nope, whole 13th gen are affected

Then why mine is working fine for over a year now?

>>101592882
wow anon's one working chip sure deboonked the fact that 13th gen cpus have a fatal flaw!

>>101592901
Technically, 99.99% isn't 100%.

Uh, for my motherboard I'm supposed to use just 8 screws on the interior side, right? I don't need to screw it in from the outside too?

>>101593030
consult your mobo/case manual

>>101593041
I am using a Lancool 216 and the manual doesn't tell me shit. I turned it over and it's pretty stable.

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>>101593050
shouldve bought fractal north case

>>101593069
Oh, so it's just 8 screws for this one as well. Guess I don't need anything else.

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Can anyone nitpick my build?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vXCMz6
I'm in the US and while I would like to spend less than $1500, the budget is very negotiable.
Use case is gayming and using as a plex server/piracy station(hence the HDD).
Monitor is just my old 1080p 60hz monitor that I plan to upgrade later.
Before you jump down my throat for ITX, I'm a traveler for hospitals, so I move around a lot and would prefer my computer not take up a lot of space.

i'm not really an AMD fanboy or anything but i would prefer my room not being a constant 70 degrees C

>>101593125
Your room is not 70c.

>Have Cooler Master HAF XM case
>love it because it has 2x 200mm fans in the roof of the case and a 200mm in the front
>all 3 200mm fans are squealing and squeaking now because the cheap red LED only CM fans have long since given up
>Noctua makes 200mm fans
>$33 each
I'd be spending around $120 on case fans alone in my new build to keep my current case which is something I would like to do. Are there any larger fan cases worth a fuck on the market or should I just go ahead and get these new 200mm fans? For reference it's less about price and more me wanting to keep my current case because I like it. Any new case would have to bring something truly different to the table for me to switch

>>101593119
Since you're in the US my nitpick is you can get much better stuff for a little bit more with a microcenter bundle.

>>101593167
it used to be until I upgraded to AMD

>>101593201
No it wasn't.

i think nothing spells "cuck" more than voluntarily bringing an israeli digital backdoor into your home, feeding it 4096W daily, having it crash and destroy your work every time, AND defending it online

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>>101593224
it truly is the israeli-american processor

>>101593224
until it burns itself to death.

>>101593119
>Before you jump down my throat for ITX
You know the rules and so do I, there are no excuses.
Your list doesn't look bad just make sure to use Eco mode for the CPU, X Zen4 CPUs are running hot by default.
You might wait 3 more weeks for Zen5, but those CPUs will be more expensive for sure.

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>>101593224
>>101593247
>>101593251
>poetry writing itself in REAL TIME
hoooooly fucking kek how will intcels ever recover from this

Should I buy Intel stock?

Is it smart or dumb to do a build with all new parts except GPU and while waiting a couple of months pay to buy new GPU I use an old 1070 and just play easygoing games?
>7800X3D
>32GB DDR5 CL30
>1070 (4070S tbc)
I know I could just wait to build it a bit longer but I feel like it's a good idea...unless it isn't

>>101593261
>You might wait 3 more weeks for Zen5, but those CPUs will be more expensive for sure.
Actually I was thinking of waiting for zen5 to release to drive down the prices of the previous gen. But I'm thinking that'll take months if not years to actually affect it.

>>101593349
it's fine
standards like pcie and atx exist so you can do exactly that without problems

>>101593369
Excellent thank you anon

>>101593224
>just got 53 seating ovations in congress
were just emulating our leaders

>>101593298
yeah buy the dip

>>101593349
All good but I'd be waiting for the Ryzen 9000 to be released, it's so close.

>>101593298
only if your tired of having money

>>101593298
still kicking myself in the ass for not buying AMD Stock when the Bulldozer disaster happened

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>>101591803
i just got the left for 100 dollars, its supposedly a junk chip im hoping is bootable with the on board GPU disabled, but it may not be, anyone want to try on their set up if mine fails? its not K but realistically why would you overclock intel, may as well fucking kiss your chip good bye in a year. leave that shit stock 5.2 is good enough.

>>101591879
is that ebay? its almost certainly a scam, post the listing here.

>>101593406
>>101593436
It's always a gamble if they'll climb back up again.
Battlemage could be just what they need to take off but it could just as easily be another flop.

>>101593119
ditch the spinning rust and go for a 18 tb sata exos 2 dual actuator. its 100 dollars more expensive refurbished but you really do not want a solitary 8 tb drive for 100 its super overprioced and underpowered.
imho kick your ssd down to 1 tb
I'd also reduce the price of your gpu if you are just going to game. psu seems overvalued for the build power budget as well. do you expect to grow?

>>101593411
I considered this but to be honest I'm happy building with 7800x3d now that I can take a jump from further down the line. I don't really know much about the upcoming releases but I'm comfortable that 7800x3d will do well and last a good time until next upgrade

>>101593192
buying a bunch of fan rads is retarded, get a shroud for the back and one of these things
https://www.amazon.com/VIVOSUN-Inline-Booster-Noise-Grounded/dp/B01C82SZRM

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Day 478 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.

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>>101591918
>Switch plays game at 5W
>my PC plays the same game at 130W
how is this fair
26 times more energy WHY?

>>101593741
i doubt this is accurate

>>101593549
>18 tb sata exos 2 dual actuator. its 100 dollars more expensive refurbished but you really do not want a solitary 8 tb drive
I didn't know you could refurbish drives, I'll def look into this
>imho kick your ssd down to 1 tb
Any particular reason? I'm thinking AAA games are just going to get bigger and bigger so I may as well go big now sense this is going to be my boot drive.
> psu seems overvalued for the build power budget as well. do you expect to grow?
Yeah, I'm probably going to move up to a 1440p set up and will probably want a more powerful gpu when I want to do that, but to be honest with sfx PSUs they're all around $100 anyway so my thought process is leaving the room there if I need it.

>>101593741
Are you dumb or deliberately retarded? Scum like you makes this board terrible.

>>101593741
>PC is 26 times more powerful than the switch
Based

>>101593871
>playing aaa-ck!
vomitingikamusume.jpg
>psu
I would try not to spend more than 60 dollars but you do you.

>>101593192
Have you tried oiling the fan bearings? Might have to be reapplied on occasion but can really extend fan life. I use Singer machine oil (for sewing machines). Peel up the sticker, put in a drop or two, spin by hand for a bit then reappply sticker.

https://www.overclockers.com/em-spinning-lubricate-pc-fans/

Fractal Torrent Nano or NR200P

which one to go for? Nano has way full tower cooler clearance so leaning towards that but i don’t know

7900gre vs 4070 super, is there any real difference if all i care about is raw raster and FPS? never touching frame gen, upscaling, ai stuff, raytracing etc. just looking for the most raw throughput for resolution and frames

>>101594116
7900gre has better specs. 256bit + l3 cache > 192bit & no l3 cache.

4090 > 7900xtx > 4080 super > 4080 > 7900xt > 4070 ti super > 7900gre > 4070ti > 4070 super > 7800xt > 4070 > etc

>>101594116
>never touching frame gen, upscaling, ai stuff, raytracing etc
Doubt.

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>>101593936
>playing aaa-ck!
I know I know, but I have normie frens back home who like to play call of duty and helldivers, really those games are less about quality and more about having something to fiddle with while in a voice call. And it's not like indie games are immune to the bloat. Gates of hell ostfront is like 60 gigs even though the game it's based on, Men of war 2 assaults squad is like 8. Games are just getting bigger as time goes on and devs don't seem to give a shit.
>I would try not to spend more than 60 dollars but you do you.
honestly, I'm in the same boat, but I can't find an sfx psu much cheaper than my first choice. ITX/faggotry tax I guess.

>>101594246
just play at bad frame rates or less settings, if the experiance is about social activity then you shouldn't care if you get wasted by some ayys.

>>101594198
I don’t touch it, i just want to GPU to pump out tons of frames with every slider turned to high

I don’t care about gimmicks, trinkets, and circus tricks

should i change the cooler?

This is an old build I upgraded few months.

I've just built a PC with an 13600kf. If I set a power limit at 150 I should be fine until the Intel/Bios update rolls out right?

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>>101594315
herp

>>101594330
what is new?

>>101594343
GPU and CPU

Got a crazy deal on the cpu for 200

>>101594324
Just go with intels power limits, not the board manufacturers power limit

This has been a problem with general instability for the entire 13th gen, and now with the oxidization problem. The board manufacturers pre ”overclock” the board power, so as long as you go with intels recommended settings it’s all good

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why is this shit so expensive

$800 for a 1080p setup? what a fucking joke

>tfw still at least 180 days until next-gen GPUs

>>101594457
800 dollars for the entire setup is a bargain, midrange to high end you’re paying north of that for just the GPU

>>101594457
Throw a 6600 into any office PC made in the last decade and you have a decent 1080p build

>>101594457
The switch is 250

>>101593436
Hindsight is king, it was a massive unknown if they'd even survive or go bankrupt until Sony/Microsoft provided them a lifeline with console SOCs, and even then it was uncertain if Jim Keller (who they brought back to start Zen development around 2012) would be able to help them deliver their parachute.

>>101594482
you can't. they have no cooling and they use proprietary PSUs.

Hi guys I need a little help, I'm looking for a new monitor for my setup, i'm currently with a shitty DELL S2440L (1920x1080@60Hz) and wanted to upgrade to something better, I want to spend about 600 - 900 €, ¿any idea of a good monitor?

CPU: Intel Core i7 9700K @ 3.60GHz
Monitor: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. Z370P D3-CF (U3E1)
RAM: 16,0GB Dual-Channel DDR4 @ 1066MHz (15-15-15-36)
Graphics card: 4095MB NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 (Gigabyte)
Storage: 931GB Seagate ST1000DM010-2EP102 (SATA ), 465GB Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 500GB (Unknown (SSD))

Any upgrade ideas for my components would be apreciated too.

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PFFT HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAH

>>101594513
never buying intel

>>101594513
with ___s you lose

>>101592725
Check the VIDs
You are safe if your VIDs don't exceed ~1.45v

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>>101594483
okay but is

>Honey Select 2
>Koikatsu
>Koikatsu Sunshine
>Virt-A-Mate
>Skyrim with Loverslab mods
>Sims with Wicked Whims mods
>random v0.0.1 indie games from f95 and itch.io or wherever
>Stable Diffusion
>LLMs
>CS 1.6

on the switch? NO? OK IDC THEN

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should I wait for zen5 or build a gaming PC with zen4? xbox series x just died, time to make the switch to pc gaming

>>101593468
14nm intel chips are near indestructible
They only die if you go full retard by running 1.55v with no vdroop and c-states disabled

>>101594513
https://youtu.be/PvFYBkesqGU?t=20

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>>101594513
Ryzen chads vindicated, trusted on AMD all the way back with Zen+ (2700), then upgraded to the 5800X and most likely will upgrade to the 9700X, btw the R7 2700 is still running 24/7 as a Linux server/NAS.

>>101594585
according to the person who returned it and the seller it was DOA and sounded like an improperly binned chip that doesnt have a working on board graphics. still need to test it.

>>101594574
The platform supports both, just get a good quality motherboard and an entry level 7600

Run that until it’s too slow for your liking, update, and buy a zen5 processor

>>101594602
its a killer deal if the cores are working fine
the 10900 series are the best intel chips before their products went to shit

>>101594646
whats wrong with dubs gen anyway? no pcie 4 so why wouldnt that be the best?

>>101591803
You guys think Arrowlake will be safe from the oxidation issue?

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Retard here, this is gonna be a colossally stupid question, but is it possible for my computer to start a fire if left unattended, or would it fry itself and shut down before that could happen? Like I know you should never leave space heaters unattended, which is why I'm asking. I wanted to make the machine do 3D renders while I'm out and about, but I wanted to know if it's safe to leave it alone. I've got a Fractal Torrent, which is a pretty good case for cooling.

>>101592209
Do you hate your friend? Why not get a 5800x3d used or 5700x3d?

>>101594655
rocketlake has better ipc and pcie gen4 but those are the only things going for it
>it clocks like shit, literally needing 1.55-1.65v for 5.3ghz making it a housefire
>its memory controller is also worse, capping out at 3600-3800mt/s in gear 1 while the 10900s' can do 4600-4800mt/s
>being a backport of sunny cove, it has massive latency issues. intel very likely ran loose ass tminings on the caches making it a regression in games even versus the 10700k
>and lastly, its 8-core design means its multi-threaded challenged and its L3 cache regressed to 16MB

its an overall worse design than the 10-core skylake which beats it in most games and every program that scales with core counts

>>101594748
>its an overall worse design than the 10-core skylake which beats it in most games and every program that scales with core counts
Oh and it uses like 100W less power doing so because rocketlake has serious power issues (raptorlake-like)

>>101594694
modern desktops are modern laptops:
>cpu and gpu dynamically boost to a set thermal limit
>cpu/gpu thermal limit is set to whatever value in the bios (default is 95c for example)
>when they reach 95c they will throttle down the voltage and clocks to prevent the temps from going any higher than that
>if somehow the cooling is insufficient and it rises past that, the computer will shut down at the critical temp (110c set inside the silicon)

>>101594571
>what is <some gay shit>
we're gaymers

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>>101594748
it did seem really weird how expensive this gen was but i guess that answers why. still no resizable bar does hurt for my MB and all. but oh well, this is going into a pizza box not a 4090 tower. I doubt my mb can do 4600 ddr4. this is a no black pcbs allowed build. its an oem board.

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>>101594772
Thanks for the answer, Anon. I've monitored the temps with HWinfo and I think the GPU throttles itself at 85C. The CPU is barely engaged for renders (but would be heavily engaged for any physics simulations I'd pre-bake beforehand). I think the GPU gets hotter during Stable Diffusion generations that it does 3D rendering, for whatever reason.

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>>101594513
Intelsisters in shambles

>>101594918
Stable Diffusion in particular is heavy on the GPU memory controller. You're more likely to see high memory temps instead of high core temps.

How do I keep my room temperature to around 21 to 22 degrees celsius when using my high end PC? I live in a nordic country so I don't have an AC to cool down my room. My room gets to 24 degrees when just browse the internet and to 26 degrees or even worse when playing video games that are on the high end. Whats the solution to this problem. If I have to buy something to fix the problem I don't want to spend more than 200 euros. My rig is this: Intel Core i9-14900KF 3.2 GHz 24-Core Processor, ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler, ASRock Z790 Nova WiFi ATX LGA1700 Motherboard, Corsair Vengeance 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6600 CL32 Memory, Samsung 990 Pro 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive, MSI GAMING X SLIM GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16 GB Video Card, Lian Li LANCOOL III RGB ATX Mid Tower Case, be quiet! Dark Power Pro 13 1300 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply and Microsoft Windows 11 Pro and Gigabyte M27Q 27.0" 2560 x 1440 170 Hz Monitor

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>>101595156

>>101594359
If you've already got the cooler run it, otherwise the hyper 212 is not worth buying

>>101595156
Sell your 14900k and z790 board and pick up a 7800x3d and b650
You'll come out richer and you'd drop your power usage by 100-150W easy
And undervolt your 4080S to 0.9v to reduce load power by 30-40%

>3050 4gb
jesus christ Nvidia

>>101594513
well fuck my upgrade path. should've gone low end am4 with the X3D as an option.
guess i'll just wait for AM6

why do people post pictures of one of the 50000 news sites regurgitating a news instead of the original source of the information the sites recycle?

>>101595249
No where in your response did I get an answer on how to reduce my room temperature when having my PC on. Stop shilling amd crap.

>>101595410
Sir, reducing watts is the only way to get your room cooler other than improving your room's ventilation

>>101595410
(You)

>>101595266
4gb is perfectly fine if you're upscaling from 480p

>>101595410
>amd crap
keep your shitty unstable Intel then

>Premium: Samsung 990 Pro
>Flagship: Sabrent Rocket 5
The Sabrent is better than the Samsung?