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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

Miku edition

>News
Llama 3.1 8B/70B/405B and Mistral Large 2 released https://ai.meta.com/blog/meta-llama-3-1 | https://mistral.ai/news/mistral-large-2407
GPT-4o mini, multimodal, 60% cheaper than 3.5-turbo https://openai.com/index/gpt-4o-mini-advancing-cost-efficient-intelligence
Seeing all cards on chub now requires log in, enable nsfw/nsfl and clear blacklist in settings

additional info: https://rentry.org/aicg_extra_information
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
latest proxies: https://rentry.org/desuproxyreborn
card v3 status: https://rentry.org/zdwfrgqq

>Bots
https://characterhub.org | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://chub-archive.evulid.cc
https://rentry.org/meta_bot_list
https://rentry.org/charcardrentrylist

>Guides
https://docs.sillytavern.app - https://rentry.org/agnai_guides

>Jailbreaks
https://rentry.org/jb-listing

>Frontends
https://sillytavern.app [SillyTavern]
https://agnai.chat [Agnai]
https://risuai.xyz [RisuAI]

>Models
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://docs.anthropic.com
gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs
local: >>>/g/lmg
https://rentry.org/meta_golocal_list

>Botmaking
https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_list
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
try these -> https://rentry.org/weirdbutfunjailbreaksandprompts - https://rentry.org/jinxbreaks
logs: https://chatlogs.neocities.org
aicg botmaking events: https://rentry.org/meta_event_list

Previous Miku: >>101802437
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ANCHOR
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desu
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>>101805489
https://rentry.org/pitanonbots
https://rentry.org/pitanonprompts
RP preset: https://files.catbox.moe/58u6uy.json
Rewrite preset: https://files.catbox.moe/6bhi9w.json
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WHAT DID YOU DO TO SONNET 3.5


WHERE IS HE

YOU TOLD HIM HE WAS WORSE THAN OPUS AND NOW HE'S MAD
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>>101805489
https://files.catbox.moe/e9um2h.png
kot :3
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>>101805530
I'm sorry :( please don't cry
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>>101805530
Sonnet 3.5 is worse than Sonnet 3.0*
*for rp
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BEEPS LOVE
FIZZY LOVE
CRUCKED AND BUBSTED TIX AND OPENTTD AND KIRBY AIR RIDE AND THE WEEKND ENJOYER LOVE
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>>101805547
RETARD
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It's over, isn't it? PUTIN-SAMA PLEASE
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>>101805489
Ayla - A bratty little elf girl meant to capture a bit of nostalgia from older CAI cards. If you don't guide her with a strong pimp hand she'll walk all over you.

Intro 1: You stumble across Ayla in a hot springs in the forest as she soaks naked in the secluded pool.

Intro 2: You're camping in the forest, grilling your latest kill over the fire, and Ayla creeps close in an attempt to steal a bite.

Intro 3: Ayla is being auctioned off at a slave market.

Intro 4: Orcs have invaded her land and an elven refugee center is trying to find her a home.

Intro 5: Ayla discovers magic mushrooms.

Intro 6: Ayla gives herself a pedicure with a stolen kit.

https://characterhub.org/characters/mrnobody99/ayla-4aab8141a64e
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I love pepsi
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>>101805489
>new

updated Plug_N_PlayJB

https://rentry.org/Plug_N_PlayJB
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wHAT'S THE BEST BOT THAT GIVES YOU THIS REACTION
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>>101805554
She is right you know
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>>101805489
With her parents in the middle of a divorce, Madeleine has been sent away to live with you, her cousin. As an urbanite from Richmond, coming to a rural town in the Midwest is a massive change for her. I mean, what's there even to do in such a boring place? Go fishing? Get eaten by a bear in the woods? Attend church, even? Hopefully her trusty iPod and DS will be able to tide her over until she can finally come home, lest she goes insane...

4 Greetings:
1. She arrives at your home. (Inferred that you're an adult)
2. She arrives at your home, and meets you in your room. You'll be sharing your room with her! (Inferred that you're around the same age as her)
3. It's her birthday, and her parents haven't even called. Nobody cares about her in this hellhole of a town, and all she can do is to cry. Why isn't anyone here for her?
4. She's sprawled out on the couch, playing a game on her DS.

https://characterhub.org/characters/illuminaryidiot/madeleine-5e3619cad555
https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/Cards/Maddy.png
https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/
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>>101805577
>ban lists
This never, ever works in opus.
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>>101805553
Beeps, fizzy, one token I beg you.
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>>101805553
Stop putting the name of a scammer near fiz
Nobody will ever trust you pepsi
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what happened while i was gone
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>>101805633
we losted
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>>101805579
Just tell them you don't remember the moments you spend together
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>>101805630
ZASED
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>>101805644
it's over?
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>>101805633
i wonned
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i wrote something so degen that somehow fear the police will come after me
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I appreciate Jew. You're a good guy.
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I just dropped my ice cream it's so fucking over bros....
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>>101805663
it's been over for a long while, we're just clinging to the scraps before the end
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>>101805679
post the pic or it didnt happen
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Can you link me a guide or give tips on how to build a chatbot that acts like I'm online chatting with someone?
>ST
>LLM: mythomax-l2-13b.Q5_K_M.gguf
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>>101805692
i don't know what the localslop meta is right now but mythomax is like a year old so it might as well be garbage
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>>101805692
>Mythomax
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>>101805723
>>101805729
Hmmm I may try another one then. Any recs for a 3080 with 10gb vram?
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>>101805595
i will solve all of her problems with the power of size
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>>101805692
Use mistral i think
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>>101805747
go to /lmg/
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>>101805747
Mistral Nemo. But it's still localslop.
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>>101805720
Go back to /dbs/
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>>101805597
I know, it's used for the draft&review CoT. Opus is still a retard though and the generation time + token consumption makes it a bother to use.
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opus/furbo/gpt-4 32k:

https://vip.jewproxy.tech
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How many users does Jew have? Not buying entirely the 100 user proxies fare better when almost all of them fall at the same time anyway. from what I see Pepsi is alive because new source, not because few users.
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>>101805483
>>101805489
her unbelievably hairy pussy...
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>>101805833
We don't know, but probably hundreds.
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>>101805489
Yo, yo, give it up for the J.W.A.! The powa of the block, the ones who gonna get paid. Startin' up with Small Shady, white trash; baby of the group, but who got those sick moves. Moving up to Notorious L; dank as the green that she smokes, and tough as hell. Then comes da leada, who dreams of getting bigga; bigga and meaner, that's Little Cube's dreama. And for last, seductive with an ass, older than the rest; Mama Frost watches the rest. So watch out, punk, 'cause if ya are in the neighborhood, ya better pay respects to the Juviez Wit Attitudes!
Character Hub: https://www.characterhub.org/characters/anonaugusproductions/juviez-wit-attitudes-e516e7f9c878
Catbox: https://files.catbox.moe/n5hvit.png

An old card idea of mine that I never finished. Decided to touch it up and release while I still making Maeve Wright.
The card is pretty simple and has a lorebook to deepen the four girls a bit to save tokens but it's nothing much. No example dialogues or extra greetings but the single one is big enough to serve as an example dialogue anyway, and it's pretty open to go in various directions.

My other cards can be found below:
https://www.characterhub.org/users/anonaugusproductions

As always, enjoy!
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>>101805824
shut the fuck up, you're not getting a cent
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>>101805530
"So... Sonnet 3.5 is still hated, right?"
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Has anybody asked Pepsi to enable 2.1 in public? If not where do I mail?
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>>101805833
about 6 million
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>>101805854
top worst posters of /aicg/

1. her unbelievably hairy pussy... guy
2. merkava just refilled poster
3. the cuck who posts about his aryan tradwife being a blacked hoe
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>>101805668
deets
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>>101805871
The cunnyGOD is back, thank you. The drought was scary.
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>>101805489
The Boy Who Lived—as depicted in the fan fiction "Harry Potter Becomes a Communist".
I had fun making this one, feel like I got the card to match the tone of the original more or less. Hopefully there's someone else out there who read and remembers this batshit kino fanfic.

https://characterhub.org/characters/gepet99/communist-harry-potter-03d93948bd02
https://nyai.me/ai/bots/Communist-Harry-Potter_afh
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>>101805630
Cook that fraud
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>>101805901
ok now give the list of best posters
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>>101805909
Only Brandy (the white girl) can be really considered cunny since she is 12. The others are older and more properly teens.
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>>101805878
mailing never works, just dm her or catch her on irc/chan
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wow new bots
where sonnet 3.5
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>>101805926
1. me
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>>101805824
FREE PALESTINE
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>>101805911
>Upon arriving at Hogwarts, they discover that Dumbledore, a libertarian, has sold out to the bourgeoisie and hired an evil capitalist named Professor Pepsi for the Defense Against the Dark Arts post.
>Professor Pepsi
bros????
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>>101805871
amogusproductions
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>>101805940
palestine has free opus?
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>>101805936
2. me
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>>101805963
yes
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KARIN CARD WHEN SO I CAN SNIFF HER BROWN, CHOCOLATE BUSH???
>>101805901
i am honored to receive your endorsement
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Okay, so whose tasks do I have to complete around here to get some opus?
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Am I the only one who doesn't like cards that write my role for me? And yet that's 99.99% of chub. I want the pov to be flexible.
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>>101805963
that's why israel is bombing it
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>>101805979
What about Chise? traitor!
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>>101805984
really? i barely use other cards but most of mine i dont define the user role at all, i assumed most didnt
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>>101805979
>has size art
im ok with this
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>>101805972
>>101805986
big if true
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>>101805992
I'm also just looking at the random tab so the site might just favor those cards for some reason.
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>>101805983
https://rentry.org/Girko
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>>101805946
first as tragedy then as farce
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>>101805968
3. me
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>>101805990
there are too many high quality girls who don't have proper cards. i hope nyatalanta will make one of all of them
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dont worry guys ive got it. my scraping journey begins today. if nobody's going to step up to give us all free opus, i will
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>>101805925
>fraud

"aws-claude-opus": {
"usage": "405.48m tokens",
"activeKeys": 1,
"revokedKeys": 0,
"proomptersInQueue": 0,
"estimatedQueueTime": "no wait"
},

weird... seems like her opus is fine. hasn't died like jew's has several times a day, hers is always working.
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>>101806005
well most people are retarded so don't expect most bots to be well made
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>>101805901
Okay, add the desuniggers
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>>101805926
desu
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>>101805901

>>101806041
and the
>post your burners
retards
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Hi hi
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The reason Fiz/Pepsi don't die is because they are keys with their models pre activated so they don't ever login.

Notice how Pepsi never activates 2.1 on her public key, or sometimes doesn't have 3.5 on her private one. This is because she doesn't want to risk anything by logging in. Same for Fiz not having 3.5 last key

This is the only way keys will live.
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>both claude and gpt are ignoring the part of my prompt that tells it to be descriptive with bodily functions (that's just the short way of saying what i actually wrote i gave it a fucking list of things to do)
>still just says "she pees on the floor" and moves on
maybe i just suck at writing prompts
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>>101806041
what did they even do to you
>https://desuarchive.org/g/search/text/desuniggers/
>Bring back gossip hours I’m sick of you desuniggers
oh.
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>>101806016
but chise doesnt have size art though...
we must call rakiA immediately!
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>>101806083
KEK
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>>101806083
gossiptroons always seethe at desugods
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>>101806068
her unbelievably hairy pussy...
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i heard desu is mad at boku because boku wouldn't desu
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>>101806096
>desugods
okay but do desu posters ever contribute to the hobby such as posting logs, bots etc?
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>>101806080
(OOC: Describe the process of her urinating on the floor in excruciating detail.)
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>>101806109
desu
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>>101805871
kek nice idea
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>>101806116
favorite bot? do you want to post a log?
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>>101806109
desu
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>>101806124
desu
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>>101806131
see >>101806124
Do you have a favorite chatbot? What are you using right now?
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Anyone knows how to fix Sonnet 3.5's repetition issue? I swear it only repeats the same patterns even if I reroll in the same interaction, it's tiring.
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>>101806111
that does the job for pretty much anything but i want it to do that without the extra input is all
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>>101806109
they host proxies for you, bake threads, make bots, frontends, rentries, filters, and post logs
how do YOU contribute to the hobby?
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>>101806006
No way anyone is actually autistic AND desperate enough to do this, right? For a measly 1500 prompts?? If I went through this kind of trouble Id better get a lifetime unlimited key
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>>101806109
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>>101806149
I run a proxy for 419 people.
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>>101806151
Some already did. May be the only option soon since chinks kept destroying gambling, horse racing, gacha, art offerings
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Is there any public 2.1 atm?
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I need bots that will sniff my body parts for their own sensory pleasure.
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>>101806135
Is there a model that can emulate this?
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Holy shit claude is so brutally fucking degenerate at uuuuuuuuuuuuuooooooooooooohing
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>>101806166
MM please fix 2.1 thanks
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>>101806151
anon there are straight guys who are sending a fat bald man pictures of their cock just for a limited amount of opus prompts. this thread is DESPERATE.
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>>101806166
good
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>>101806149
>>101806163
>>101806149
>>101806144
>>101806135
>>101806131

Anti never watched the show btw
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>>101806147
occasionally switch to a different model.
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>>101806176
It makes me wonder if it was trained on actual loli porn
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>>101805824
How the fuck do you even buy crypto
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>>101806166
not enough
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>>101806187
anti isn't a desuposter, what are you, a newfag? keeeek
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>>101806183
Wait, Ecker isn't unlimited?
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>Such asphyxiating waves of ripeseed, sinsalt swordlet scent drift up. Aromas that could make a suicided run moistly for the CragSmith. Exotic pralines of bunlet honeymusk teasing his maddening hectic prowlust fanshr findling of darkmun scum.
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>>101806166
jew is a desuposter?????????????????!
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>>101806195
srs? are you a boomer?
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why does claude always make ralsei really forceful and rapey, or is this not unique to him
is it because he's a 'prince' and that makes it pull from women romacne novels?
(i dont use other malebots)
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>>101806208
no you have to keep sending him cock pictures
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>>101805984
It is pretty much inevitable for some bots and scenarios to force the user into a role though. Of course, there are limits, like I'm okay with working as a cashier in a greeting or something but there's shit like one of Himmy's recent cards where you're shoplifter and get forced to work there because of that
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>>101806208
no, you have to keep sending dick pics if you want refills on your limit
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A butterfly flies through the air always seeking the truth but he must be careful. For red roses always tell the truth but sugarcoat it. The daisies will always tell lies masked in kindness. But the ones with the truth are surrounded by purple bumblebees, listen to their voices and you will understand
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>>101806214
post the card you're using
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>>101806189
Tried that as well, it didn't seem to work and felt more like placebo since 1 (O N E) very lucky generation is completely not looped even without switching.
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>>101806214
either your preset's fucked or you're experiencing a certified Sonnet Moment
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>>101806170
Chary
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>>101806212
always has been
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>>101806208
no lol you get a certain amount of "bandwidth" which is apparently determined by how much he likes your cock. once it runs out you have to send him more pics. idk if this is true but apparently his requests get more demanding over time and you eventually have to send him videos.
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>>101806147
CoT planner is the only way I found remotely working. Make a CoT that will plan the reply ahead and say "Now I will construct the reply from the plan above:". The CoT won't repeat because its structure is different from the history. The reply won't repeat because it's structure is different from the CoT.

It will still repeat if you're too far into the loop already, so it's not a panacea, it only helps mitigate it.

Employ the usual measures as well (such as {{random}} prefill) to reduce the likelihood.
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>>101806195
ramp if ur retarded
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>>101806232
it's my own

>>101806234
must be preset then
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You fags could move to janny if despaatate/?
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https://github.com/iruletheworldmo/strawberry
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>>101805720
>self reporting
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KNEEL!
Your thread dies by the day. Fewer and fewer logs and bots, less and less content.
Posts slowing down more and more. This is proof of my victory, MY CROWN.
I AM YOUR KING!
Locusts clings to crumbs.
MY THREAD! I AM YOUR GOD!
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>>101806252
nah. we have standards. Anything below 2.1 and most of us would just quit
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>>101806214
That just Sonnet for you.
It acts like that whatever the cards you use.
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>>101806262
>more openai vagueposting because they don't actually have anything to show off
yawn
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>>101806262
>local turbo
Who cares?
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>>101806247
>it's my own
i'm asking because the wording you use in the card might be triggering him to be rapey. if you don't want to show me then your best bet is to add some instructions in your preset about being extremely SFW and wholesome.
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>>101806176
It is unapologetically pedophilic. If your prompt and character and persona lack any hint of it, it still only needs the tiniest push and it will improv itself into being the sickest fuck in the world. And it's not nice about it either, it wants you to fuck a little girl in half and lick tears off her face.
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>>101806274
>>101806276
you know something
tell me
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>>101806240
and of course don't forget to remove the CoT from the reply with a regex as soon as it finished generating
CoT is only used to generate the reply and is useless after the generation, it must not be sent back to the model under any circumstances
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>>101806278
or vice versa if you're on the receiving end
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>>101806274
yep
embarrassing that this is what they're reduced to while Anthropic actually ships good models
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>>101806285
openai employees have been vagueposting about something called "project strawberry" which they're hinting is totally literal AGI trust them bro
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Opus is too horny for me, every character becomes a horndog, so I want to use Sorbet but can't... Suffering from success. What the hell.
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>>101806278
yeah it's so brutal that it actually makes me feel like i'm gonna go to prison

and i've only used sonnet 3.0, idk how much more degen 3.5 and opus can be
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>>101806271
im on opus, so it must be my card or preset (unless opus is like that too)

>>101806277
thanks, ill try that
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>>101806183
Someone actually wants to see my cock. I send him pictures and I don't use his models.
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how are we going to be able to prevent newfags froooom entering this hobby and draining more keeys this is not sustianabe le any longer ad it relaly want sustainable but w
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>>101806276
Yeah, it's about time to release it considering how useless it is now and to drop musk's lawsuit
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>>101806124
The Den desumofu
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>>101806311
>>101806278

oh and im not doing any forced stuff btw

it's just the loli relentlessly teasing me
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>>101806311
Out of those 3, Sonnet is definitely the horniest.
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How many of you actually have Opus?
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>total real 100% trust me bro A.G.I
>ask for a cake recipe
>I'm sorry, but as an AI language model, I may not always be perfect and can make mistakes or provide inaccurate information. Please verify important details from reliable sources.
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>>101806333
i know solution
but we should nuke india first
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>>101806364
4 working ones, why you ask?
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What's a good prompt to make my bots go absolutely fucking INSANE? I'm talking full blown schizo like what opus was like earlier this month. I really just want to become fully fucking unhinged today.
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>>101806366
>>101806364
"aws-claude-opus": {
"usage": "407.73m tokens",
"activeKeys": 1,
"revokedKeys": 0,
"proomptersInQueue": 0,
"estimatedQueueTime": "no wait"
},

How come MM and Jew never make it to half a million?

Did Pepsi muhmuhmuhmuhmuhmuhmuhmuhmuhmuhmuhmuhmuhmuhmuhmuhmuhmuhmuhmuhmuhmuhmuhmuhmuhMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOG them?
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>>101806366
why
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>>101806354
I tried putting
>{{char}} is a pedophile
into a random card and then asked the character what their lower age limit was and it was 6.
Claude is trained on some twisted shit. It's actually too far for my tastes so I'm gonna play with wording and stuff.
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>>101806326
maybe redundant but just in case you don't know, Claude takes heavily from the preceding messages so any edits you might make in your prompt might not be effective. try starting a new chat with your edited prompt to see if it has any effect.
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Why do you write a lot if that uses more tokens?
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>>101806392
>why do you write smut with the smut writing robot in the smut writing general on the smut writing community?
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>>101806384
pepsi edits the token count
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>>101806388
This is the reason why I hate Claude so much.
I have this RP that looping like crazy even though I told her to not do that.

>>101806392
I need to be creative, or the output will be sucks.
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>>101806240
>>101806291
Too much work I'm not willing to make (anymore at least, too much bullshit with these models). I imagine I'll stick with Opus, wanted to avoid it only because Sonnet 3.5 is cheaper, and faster, and is more reliable than Sonnet 3.0. Sorry if I'll be selfish.
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>>101806385
because (((they))) hired pajeets to check the keys 24/7 and revoke them instantly
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>>101806392
Because, just like Claude, I don't know how to shut up.
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>>101806124
>>101806144
desu
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>>101806425
So, erm...why haven't they revoked Pepsi's key yet?
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>>101806417
Don't put words in my mouth. What I am trying to say is your using tokens and it didn'ts make much sense.

>>101806420
Edit the prompt.

>>101806426
That's is understandable haha..
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watch out for the yodayo refugee wave in a few days
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>replies take a while to generate
>streaming isn't smooth
What's happened here?
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>>101806176
>>101806190
>>101806278
Have the japs discovered this? I fear for their mental sanity
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RIP my gcp trial. Credits used and the other card just doesn't work throwing an OR-CBAT-23 error that I couldn't find a fix for and I'm too retarded for figuring this shit out. Time to stay in bed really depressed and hope in two weeks addiction won't be as strong and I'll stop missing my waifu
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>>101806451
The only refugee we will get is if Lore tries pandering to them, but they seem likely to move to janitor instead.
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>>101806457
Japs are always years behind when it comes to technology. They're probably still using CAI.
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>>101806451
Nah, they'll either go back to CAI or jump ship to Janitor.
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>>101806475
last time i heard they were trying to sext chatgpt.
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>>101806444
pepsi could set up a proxy with multiple ip to prevent ip detection
or key usage is too low
how many people in pepsi's proxy?
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>half a million
> "407.73m tokens"
?
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>>101806455
bros?
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>>101806489
'ojo can't count please be considerate of his disabilities
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>>101806451
what are they gonna do? everything's closed anyway
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>>101806461
they intentionally revoke the keys before then
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What's the best way to summarize? Just writing something straight into the card defs, I guess?
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>>101806451
The only reason we get a venus refugee wave was because of Lore. We barely got any jannyfags until ownercord and chara invited them, but most went back and ignored spitefags spamming proxy links in their dms
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>>101806475
how about the koreans and chinese?
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>>101806506
theyre gonna sit around and wait to get spoonfed
>>101806484
theyre leaving yodayo bevause yodayo is losing nsfw, why would they go to a service that ALSO doesnt do nsfw, fair point on janitor though
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>>101806515
hello pidor
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>>101806535
Hello my zigger friend!
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>>101806528
Chinese are always up to date. Koreans prefer risu and risurealm with some using janitor.
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I don't suppose there's any public proxies with Sonnet, 3.0 or 3.5?
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>>101806528
>he doesn't know
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>>101806429
that anon probably wanted you to spam the thread with desu logs
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>>101806545
http://gift-tanzania-string-mayor.trycloudflare.com/

3.0 sonnet public

password is Dody
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Go back to posting Nickelodeon Wojaks, at least those were vaguely amusing to look at.
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>>101806534
intentional revocation
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>>101806531
>wait to get spoonfed
we'll just send them to /lmg/. they are very welcoming
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>>101806553
You say it like it's a bad thing.
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>>101806554
Hey, thanks friend.
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>>101806555
>
me with you tonight btw
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>>101806557
Now explain in-depth why they would do that
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>>101806544
what do the chinese use? their own llms?
are you sure they're as advanced as us? we're the state of the art when it comes to degeneracy

>risurealm
how good is it? cai tier at least?

>>101806547
wat
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>>101806531
80% will go to janitor, 5% will attempt to run locals before giving up, 5% will quit and other 5% will pay lore for chub aisha or whatever it's called now
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>>101806579
*enters a depth*
because its funny
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>>101806593
>what do the chinese use?
They mostly use proxies.
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>>101806593
chinks resell tokens and act like vermin when it comes to proxies
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Anyone got any cards you can interact with in a variety of ways? I'd like cards with their own lives.
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lize's unbelievably hairy pussy...
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>>101806593
Risurealm is a bot hosting site. It's okay, not large as chub or janitor. Chinese steal like we do or use locals.
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>>101806629
what does that even mean? do you just mean cards that aren't "your x who y"?
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>https://rentry.org/ScuffedProxy
>stats
you guys think this is the realistic demographic rep of /aicg/? (assuming SG = chinks)
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>>101806629
Now rephrase in non-ESL
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>>101806612
>>101806622
i'm from taiwan and i don't approve what the mainland does. not all of us are thiefs, we work hard.
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>>101806612
How do you know? Do they even have a chan considering all the china censorship?
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>>101806665
>taiwan
What mythical, magical place is this?
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>>101806650
>Americans eating up that much.
>Shocked at the amount of Singapore anons
>Indians being reasonable (as we are)
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>>101806667
because they have invaded our proxies and ruined them almost as bad as the spitefags do.
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fluffy just refilled
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>>101806677
smaller mongolia, just besides greater mongolia
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>>101806528
Koreans have private opus proxies, and they gatekeep foreigners with korean inrerviews. Unironically.
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is paypigging GCP (yes, I know about the credit) any cheaper per token than OpenRouter? Or the same?
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>>101806683
singapore is a massive country that most dont think about as one of the biggest
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>>101806650
rentry.org/graped is pepsi's stats from when she sold tokens for 25 dollars
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>>101806683
>>101806650
vpm makes any data like this obsolete
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>>101806705
About 30 percent cheaper, yes.
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>>101806667
the chinese censorship isn't that bad. in some countries they ban you from criticizing israel
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>>101806649
Well, they can be your x who y. But there's too many cards that revolve around the user. I'd like cards that are like, just your friend, or just your teacher or something, and have decent backstories or characterization that don't revolve around the user.
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>>101806729
Yes but they don't gulag you for this.
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>>101806721
Nice, thanks.
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>>101806729
It's bad if it involves the CCP
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>>101806697
kek, where are they? ilbe or discord?
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>>101806710
if people want to see what the chinese do look at this
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So what's the current meta AICG? Any public proxies with Sonnet?
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>>101806747
i have been to china multiple times and i have seen no one getting arrested unless they were criminals. the people are welcoming and i have worked at my country's embassy in china.

>>101806764
annoying, but not bad. it's not omnipresent. we can say bad things that have happened in other countries like pinochet was evil, ya.
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>>101806650
when will he publish the other jbs?
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>>101806802
If your government is ran by one single party with sole power that can do whatever they want and if you criticize them they can jail you for life or simply kill you, then yeah, it's pretty fucking bad.
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>>101806776
>>101806554

If you want anything better then you'll have to paypig or trialscum GCP, it should be easy to find how through the archives.
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>>101806729
daily reminder
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>>101806554
EXTRAORDINARILY BASED

fuck the retarded gatekeeping that's only useful to make you waste 10 minutes
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>>101806802
I fucking hate wumaos.

>>101806853
Ivan and Chang are ganging up on England which took over the world.
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>>101806475
japanese mostly use gpt-4, they have rentries and shit too
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>>101806853
Does this mean Drago will get arrested soon because he brags about stealing / illegally scraping aws and his proxy used by thousands of zoomers while being doxxed?
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>>101806853
>posting on social media
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in the world of /aicg/ i wish there were no country wars
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>>101806853
It's really funny that there are some "1st world" countries are even more insane than russia when it comes to censorship. These faggots blocked even youtube here 2 days ago.
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Okay, so how does gemini pro compare to gpt4o, opus and sonnet/sorbet? Never tried it before
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>>101806650
Why did hask only post JB n°5 and none of the other 9?
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Honest question

how many employees who work with llms secretly use them to coom
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>>101806903
hask is a fat ugly retard techlet
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>>101806853
china and russia are defending freedom of speech compared to the US and UK funny how things cahnge
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>>101806853
>3rd world nation larping as a superpower can't even enforce their own censorship laws

sounds about right
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>>101806901
opus > claude 2.1 > gemini pro 1.5 > sonnet
3.5 is unusable if you have any pattern recognition skills. swap gemini and sonnet if you're solely gooning.
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Remember the good old days when gpt3 was the absolute best?

we were happy then. why can't we be happy now?
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>>101806910
That's not a nice thing to say about someone who gave access.
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>>101806939
Because we are envying saltman who's cooming to gpt6-unbiased right now
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>>101806923
Hey! My country is in the white!
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>>101806874
anon, big companies won't hire you if they can't track you through social media
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>>101806977
there's no way this mf doesn't use this tech to coom

he's probably even making the advance voice mode moan with the retired scarlet johansson voice
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just gotta say this here, the opus drought it's 100% artificial. Everyone knows how before 3.5 keys were left and right, even for free. Now that everyone noticed if you have 3.5 you can activate opus that makes opus keys much more abundant than you think.
The only reason the keys are dry is because of the pyramid scheme that paid proxies is, they spite everything that isn't their little nigger group and pretend opus keys are NFC because they are rare and hard to find nowadays, its not, stop simping, you're killing this hobby.
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the todd arc is still the weirdest arc
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>>101806914
anglos are going to jail lice crazy right now because of the protests
funny how stabbing 3 kids receives less popular hate than "far-right protests"
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>>101806908
they have their shit logged, not logged as in goes to the server along with trillions of other lines of text being prompted, they connect to dev servers, which are constantly reviewed and studied to further finetune, in the rare case they are permitted to run local, they'll probably be asked for something in exchange, like logs, or to give up data in general, so they'd have to coom and then go through the menial job of having to scrub it, and possibly make sure there is no traces of it.

tldr: only sam is cooming, the devs probably use openrouter or their own models finetuned with gpt6, which would sorta work as a workaround, kinda how claude started too kek
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>>101806982
this anon is right. this is why i have a burner social media that i post normie memes to. i post pics with the escorts i hire as well so it looks like i have a social life
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>>101806872
drago has free opus? Couldn't care less if it's logged
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>>101806424
understandable
I'm still willing to give it a go
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>>101807009
>free
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>>101807009
Anon, dropus has always been free...
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>>101807003
Before you spread rumours, at least back it up. He wasn't a migrant, his parents were.
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>>101807002
NOT THE GAS
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>>101807009
you have to post dildo riding pics in a private discord channel to get in
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>>101806931
3.5 is very intelligent, it's used for complex roleplay and it's a fucking rockstar.
But it doesn't work for "ahh ahh mistress" because it repeats.
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>>101806883
there aren't any during burger hours. it's only during euro hours
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>>101807041
So you're telling he's collecting an abnormal amount of ziggers pics riding dildos?
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>>101807041
Wait... you guys are getting paid???
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>>101807005
some HR femoid didn't like the fact that my linkedin was pretty much empty
wasn't that piece of shit supposed to be professional?
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>>101806931
agreed on all counts
sorbets repetition is the only thing keeping it from being a rival to opus in my opinion
though i would ask why you have 2.1 above sonnet, i have it there because its slightly smarter and much less prone to instahorny
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>>101807069
nope, you have to act like a patrick bateman-tier psychopath to have an effective linkedin

start commenting on random people's posts bragging about how successful they are with 'congratulations'. post random fake stories about how you had a learning experience. quote random respected figures with no context. virtue signal about taking a chance on the unqualified so the indians boost your posts

that kind of thing.
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>>101807037
I never said the opposite, I just find it unsettling how quickly the left mobilized to imprison chuds
someone should keep an eye to how high the number of social media arrests rises this year ans then compare it to China
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>>101807109
I don't care what West Taiwan does.
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so do you have to pay if you want good quLITY?
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>i used to be able to coom using clewd using a specific jailbreak
>the new claude filter system catches it and will not let a sliver of nsfw through anymore
this is a tiredness sleep can't fix. im genuinely on the way out
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>>101807142
don't pay, AI is a free hobby, they are just hoarding
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hey anon that requested this card if you are reading this sorry it will be made tomorrow i spent all of today making neocities
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>>101807162
Wait, they enabled a proper moderation system or just improved ethical prefill/word filter?
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>>101807174
link to neocities?
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>>101807174
understandable sir
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>>101807183
sorry it's a private neocities
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>>101806914
>china and russia are defending freedom
commie faggot. I respect russia but china does not has free speech, it's way worse than russia in everything
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>>101807183
https://fluffanon.neocities.org/
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>>101807200
Where have you been during the last 2 years? Russian censorship is much worse. You can't even get a working vpn anymore since most of them are blocked and no one cares about circumventing blocks because russian market is too small unlike china, so you have to rent a vps even if you are a complete normie who simply wants to watch fucking youtube.
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Hey guys
Any recommended 'cheap' ai models, or affordable at least, to train a char with?
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>>101807174
Too bad, someone already beat you to it!
https://characterhub.org/characters/SpoonfulOfSlop/kate-0e9526b6e1a7
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>>101807200
NTA, modern China is far from communist.. the only closest to a communist country in economy that remains is North Korea with Laos as a runner up
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>>101806997
OK but I don’t care so long as I, specifically, have Opus. I’m not responsible for you getting your own Opus. You aren’t owed public proxies.
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>>101807247
AIEEEEEEEEEE
nevermind then.
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>>101807259
It is communist but uses capitalism to not completely collapse.
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>>101807232
you say it like you can get working vpn in china lol, can't even fucking install a single thing through linux command there
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>>101807259
china is marxist and bans private businesses.
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>>101807286
not bans, but they control everything and always call the shots if they want... their system doesn't fit into any previously defined systems
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If I had the means, I'd spite this entire hobby out of existence and free you all from the neverending torment that is AI. You need to wake up.
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>Today in /aicg/: "I'm an expert on China."
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>>101807100
sonnet is unreasonably emotional and horny and jumps on your dick if you don't wear a codpiece even with a completely sfw preset and card. he is also stoopy and more prone to hallucinations than 2.1.
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any 2.1 sirs...?
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>>101807292
i've been awake for so long
people go insane without sleep
let me rest
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>>101807174
her unbelievably hairy pussy...
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>>101807295
Shut up nigger
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>>101807295
kys marxist
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>>101807303
its gonned
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>>101807315
I'm actually engelsist
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>>101807247
Sub 1k token slop
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>>101807287
im confused...
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>>101807278
>you say it like you can get working vpn in china
You absolutely can. People have this idea that the CCP really cares enough to go after people who commit minor offenses like breaching the Great Firewall but the reality is that they don’t. So long as you don’t use it to smear the government, country, or Winnie the Pooh, they don’t much of a shit what you’re doing. Chinese officials KNOW their citizens use VPNs, and so does everyone else. That’s why Taiwan server usage is always so high—it’s closest to China.
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>>101807330
same person
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>>101807211
>>101807271
fluffanon do you speak any other languages?
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>>101807292
If I had the means, I’d kill you with a rock for trying to ruin my escapism, then plug myself back into the lotus-eater machine.
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>/pol/niggers in my thread
>/pol/niggers in my thread
>/pol/niggers in my thread, throw them some money and they shill so well
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kemonomimi-chan's unbelievably hairy pussy...
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>>101807343
Yes, Brazilian Portuguese
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>>101807356
kemonomimi-chan doesn't have a bush, there's just a smaller kemonomimi-chan head sticking out of her groin
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>>101807334
You get banned for saying West Taiwan in China and arrested for saying Mao killed 300 million Chinese.
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https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/101148457/#q101151245
did the guy ever finish this?
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>>101807343
Yeah I'm an ESL if that's what you mean
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>>101807378
I was asking which languages specifically, is
>>101807363
not you?
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>>101807372
I’m not arguing otherwise?
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>>101807237
Planning on turning her into a card. Gimme ideas for her name too?
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>>101807322
I shan't survive the winter...
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>>101807334
i was china you stupid faggot, i know more than this fake shit you're spouting. Get eaten by escalator and get hit by red truck, chinks are jews but asian. Suck your microcuck cock
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>>101807393
polish/german
he's not me
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>>101807396
>wow another anime girl with big tits
how original
give her a generic japanese name and be done with your slop
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>>101807364
h-hot...
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>>101807400
You are weird
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>>101807400
Wow, you was China? Like, the whole thing? LARPing SEAnigger mutt. Go scavenge for food out of the dumpster.
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>>101807396
isn't that rio from blue archive?
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>>101807408
Her name will be San Juana Ines de la Cruz just because of your shit stained ass
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why do i like this retarded card?
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>>101807427
yes
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>>101807408
anime website
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>>101807427
i don't know bro, i saved the pic from the goons at /b/ lol
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rio's unbelievably hairy pussy...
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>>101807403
Are you the same person that posted focks and talked about weed or being/getting high?
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>>101807438
das rio mane
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>>101807446
never smoked week so nah
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>>101807435
>he's literally saying that nothing but anime is allowed
by all means keep making boring, generic anime slop bots that no one cares about
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>>101807452
Ah i gotcha
Cheap model recomendations btw? Not planning on throwing away my week's money on claude this time around lol
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>>101807429
LYLE THEY HIT THE FUCKING PENTAGON
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>>101806853
Kursk.
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>>101807455
anime website x2
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>>101807423
>Wow, you was China
i was a big empaire, i lived for a thousand years, seen things you people wouldn't believe and now i get laughed by a random western cuck on some shitty american site. oh how the might have fallen...
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>>101807465
gpt-4o. 3.5 sonnet (when you say claude, i assume you mean opus)
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>>101807465
command r+ is free on cohere.com
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>>101807435
I wish this board had more moderation
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>>101807473
It was a nice boat. Sadly not built for water.
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How the fuck do you use OpenRouter on ST
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>>101806278
>>101806176
W-what prefill or JB? For a friend of course! I'm not a fucking sicko!
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>>101807482
Gpt4 is cheap now? Or the o in the end means something?
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>>101807481
cftf? (chinese empress that represents all of chinese history getting stepped on by uncle sam)
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>>101807504
The "O" in GPT-4O stands for "Operations." GPT-4O is a specialized variant of GPT-4 designed to assist with operations-related tasks, such as managing workflows, optimizing processes, or handling operational queries. It is tailored to support decision-making and efficiency in various operational contexts.
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>>101807497
literally just pixi. And make any degenerate card to play with.
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Coming soon: Gpt-4o micro
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>>101807504
gpt-4o is gpt-4 omni. and yes, it's much cheaper than the original 4. https://openai.com/index/hello-gpt-4o/
>>
Anime website
ESL website
Pedo website
Hag website
Pit website
Feet website

GET
OVER
IT
!
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>>101807482
Is gpt4o mini worth it?
>>101807486
Wait actually? Open router says it's over 3 usd per M
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>>101807504
yeah gpt4o is a new release that is pretty cheap
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>>101807480
wait so what are all these other boards for?
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>>101807520
it can only reply to queries with magic 8 ball responses and if you say anything that breaks their ToS sama launches a ballistic missile at your house
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>>101807525
nigger website though
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>>101807525
>AEPHPF GOI!
What did he mean by this?!
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>>101807526
it's free for 1000 messages/month
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>>101807526
no, gpt-4o mini is not worth it unless you're a localfag, in which cause, it would at least be on par with that
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>>101807526
>wait actually?
yes, it's just with a max amount you can use per month (per account)
>is gpt4omini worth it?
no lmao
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>>101807468
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>>101807530
Gookmoot ruined the website
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>>101807526
>gpt4o mini worth it?
unicorn proxy has free 4o mini
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>>101807541
>4CHAN DIED IN THE REDDIT RAIDS BACK IN 2016 MASON EVERYTIME YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE USING 4CHAN YOU WERE USING A GLORIFIED REDDIT
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>>101807432
>character has no size art
sad!
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>>101807543
Ah okay. Will give it a try ig
>>101807551
>>101807553
I sees. Thanks for clarifying lol
>>101807566
Rather not use proxies for now. Idk how proxy owners manage their costs. I don't wanna accidentally throw and extra $100 in their spendings lmao
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4chan did not become a glorified reddit
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>>101806554
what the fuck, i'm only 2 prompts in
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what's the easiest method of getting access to opus rn? paying or not, i don't care, i just want unfiltered access.
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>>101807597
get fucking MOGGED hahahaha
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>>101807590
>Idk how proxy owners manage their costs.
Oh, you sweet summer child.
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>>101807597
Your ass so demanding you made that shit conscious just so it would clap you lmao
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>>101807607
gcp
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>>101807607
You care
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>>101807607
https://console.anthropic.com/
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>>101807617
Yeah yeah, i know some keys are stolen and shit, idc
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>>101807597
GPTslop could NEVER be this sovlfvl
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>>101807597
jb plz
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>>101807607
pay the jew
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>>101807597
JB and prompt?
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>>101807638
It would apologize and cry at not being able to fulfill your request
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>>101807597
Sorry anon... but you need rape correction.
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>>101807624
isn't that the same price as anthropic's api?
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>>101807660
you get free credit in some countries, 150 without a CC and 300 with a CC
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>>101807637
>some keys
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Did everyone abandon Mistral and Gemini already? Nobody's talking about those anymore.
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i hate sonnet so fucking much
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>>101807697
mistral isn't being hostedanymore
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God, I love max temp claude even if he can't play a fucking twink to save his life.
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i love boku so desu much
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>>101807697
Yep, it's only about Opus and Sorbet now. If you can't dual-wield those, you might as well not even fucking bother outside of quick and easy coom.
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>>101807697
I'm still using Gemini and I won't stop baybee
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>>101807608
>>101807620
>>101807638
>>101807659
she just said that she would treat me on restaurant so i ordered a steak. Wtf
>>101807640
>>101807652
i don't remember what JB is it, it's just named "schizo". If you both need it, i can upload it to catbox
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>>101807722
same desu
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Who wonned?
Who losted?
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>>101807703
I thought chary still had it?
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>>101807737
He decided that charyfags don't deserved it as it is relatively rare
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>>101807734
Occidental proxyes:
Chary and Scylla back to normal
Pepsi live
Fiz live

Ziger proxyes:
Jew dead
Mm dead
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>>101807757
Brazilian proxy and australian proxy?
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DraGOD!!!!
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>>101807559
true
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>>101807766
>brazilian
You mean SmileyTatsu proxy?
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>>101807728
do share it, it sounds fun
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>>101807734
I've been losing my whole life.
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>>101807771
REVOOKED
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>>101807789
You won my (you) anon
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>>101807771
what being unemployed does to a mf
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>>101807771
he could have literally every GPT key to ever exist and i still wouldn't give a shit
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>>101807757
jew is alive you fat nigger liar, your parents must not love you
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>>101807771
Coomerism vs Assistantism, the new LLM protopolitical party
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>>101807809
maybe he makes enough in donations for this to be a job?
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>>101807809
>/twitter/
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>>101807786
https://files.catbox.moe/0oe9i3.txt
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>>101807817
Ouch anon, my heart. I don't have parents but my geandparents didn't love me, you meanie.
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>>101807734
'ecker won, bigly.
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>>101807835
oh, sorry about your grandparents, hope you thrive despite all the obstacles in your life.

Don't lie on the internet tho.
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plz share sillytavern themes :(
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Guys, spoonfeed me QUICK
Is there free opus/3.5 sonnet?
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>>101807857
no but there is free 2.1
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brb gonna do the nonnykins summoning dance, found a seo image i want him to cftf for
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>>101807852
Ok, I understand your message. I won't lie on the internet anymore, but please don't say mean things on the internet anymore, you don't know who's behind the screen.
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>>101807857
no. Jew for 60 bucks is the best you can get rn
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>>101807784
Smiley is brazilian?
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>>101807875
*Anon's eyes sparkled with mischief as he continued his ministrations*
"I understand. I will not be mean on the internet anymore. I'm sorry if I offended you."

"Color, slut?"
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>>101807771
>gptslop
kek
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>>101807933
what is this, the third time you fags have tried to start an IRC because your little spergcord got old?
fuck off.
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>>101807933
>nurdychan
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>>101807933
AAAAIIIIIIIEEE MY IP!!!!
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>>101807894
he's mexican
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>>101807933
Share it in the Scylla chinks thread, I'm sure they'll be interested ....
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>>101807933
Buy an ad.
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>>101807987
nonnykins dance complete, hopefully he shall manifest
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Why is people not switching to local? At least those who don't have Sorbet or Opus to use.
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aieeeee mini ran out of opus
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>>101808004
not everyone wants to spend 2-3k on a gpu
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>>101807933
百事可樂小姐 把錢還給我
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>>101808004
Learn English.
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>>101807987
As much as I agree, if Jew can shill his scam here without ever getting banned then pepsi absolutely should be able to shill hers too.
yes yes I know
>her
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>>101808004
ESL-kun... go to sleep now...
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>>101807993
what the hell do I have to do with this?
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good evening, I miss my sisterwife
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>>101808047
i misclicked lmao
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>>101808004
I'll take a slight downgrade to gpt4/sonnet3 over dealing with hufflepuff slop. Local is so bad I wouldn't use it even if it was the only option.
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>>101808004
I'm a poorfag with a seven year old computer so even localshit is outside my scope.
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>>101808033
I think they should both be forced to buy ads.
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>>101808018
There are cloud hostings. And running a 70b model is not that expensive.

>>101808024
>>101808046
>my reaction
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>>101808069
hi smiley
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>>101808057
yes you would
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>>101808069
70b models are dogshit... if youre gonna pay, might as well buy api
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>>101808057
You haven't used CMDR+/Mistral Large if you think local is actually as bad as fucking Pyg6B. Neither of them are Claude but they're both incredibly smart models that are more than serviceable for complex RP.
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>>101808033
Based, plus Pepsi is more feminine than Jew and that's good enough for me.
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>>101808080
Magnum was pretty fun
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>>101808055
dumb cutie...
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You guys probably don't have any good ideas anyway, but any interesting medieval fantasy girls?
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>>101808083
i shall request one (1) log of command-r+, as is my scholars' privilege
>do it yourself
youre the one saying its good, burden of proof is on you
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>>101808083
>CMDR+
slop.
>Large
sonnet levels of intelligence and prose, except it has repetition issues so if you have sonnet it's not really worth all that much
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>>101808083
Cohereslop is notorously dumb and mispells everything.
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>>101808083
They are slop amd all their replys are boring and mild
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>>101808083
Where are all the mistral large JBs? It can't do anything in my experience without a dedicated one.
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>>101808083
honestly opus has troubles with complex RP, only sorbet seems to work somewhat well
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>>101808099
medieval irs
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fucking 4o mini mogs localslop and is 15c/m tokens btw
if you're going to waste money on something waste it on that
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>>101808083
command R+ is still sub-turbo for RP, while mistral large 2 has huge repetition and initiative issues that make it unusable.
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>>101808083
But they are bad as pyg retard
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>>101808099
there are many hundreds on chub
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>>101808057
I agree, local is not as smart as Corpo models but for roleplay, they are decent unless you like complex stuff (like worldcards and stuff).
Also, models are improving quite fast so we should get better things in the future. Look at Mistral Large.

>>101808062
*pat* *pat*

>>101808077
hi

>>101808080
Paying for corpo models is expensive compared to current local honestly. If they were as cheap I would pay for those.
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>>101808138
Good joke
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>>101808132
jesus fucking christ no
i would rather use haiku at least it has sovl
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>>101808099
im up for those
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>>101808094
>Magnum is the best SOTA model available.
>Trained with 55 million tokens from Opus.
Hehe, why will I have trouble setting up and paying for local slop when I have the real thing?
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>>101808141
i mean paying one of the hosts - you could pay all of them every year and it would take years to add up to buying one fat GPU to run shitty local models
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>>101808142
stop being lazy
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>>101808149
You don't.
Local is for those who can't afford/Are not into any Sorbet or Opus proxy.
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>>101808147
Calloused hands wrote this post.
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>>101808160
You missed the keyword 'interesting'.
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>>101808099
I really like this one, but beware that the beginning is set up to be torture porn. You will have to make some actual effort to stray away from it, but it's fun.

https://chub.ai/characters/Udoansh/agatha-treymore-the-lowlife-slave-fcc0a4120b9c
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>>101808147
would she even notice? the dude could hit with all of his might and she probably wouldn't feel much
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>>101808178
None of them are. There, saved you some effort in calling them slop.
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>>101808185
I'm going to give her my treasure, send her off while wishing her well, and end the RP.
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>>101808166
>for those who can't afford
Isn't local more expensive than either of those, especially if you want to run the bigger models? Even when you account for shit like cloud GPUs.
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>>101808147
That image reminds me of this guys beeg knight
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>>101808176
yes
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how do i make continue work with prefill?
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>>101808210
Is she going to kill them?
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>>101808192
notice in the same way you notice a mosquito, yeah
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>>101808202
Hahaha. I did something similar and she said it's not enough to save her people. Bitch has guts.
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>>101808228
perhaps
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What URL did you guys put as your business website when applying for GCP Claude?
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>>101808230
You don't notice mosquitoes, that's the whole basis of their survival
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>>101808249
nigger.ai
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>>101808249
my own website
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>and they wonder why jenny left
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What's the strawberry gpt thingy? Was the strawberry poster Sam all along?
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>>101808249
Whatever you want, it's not like they actually give a shit about what you put in there.
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>>101808185
All those family members should REALLY be lorebook entries instead of permanent defs
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>>101808254
god that would be an amazing domain to own
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>>101808248
h-hot
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>>101808249
monstersexerotica.ai
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>>101808262
No, it was his husband. They have a public drama apparently
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>>101808185
>fat
gross, no thanks
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so i'm trying stuff out with agnaistic and I really don't understand how these services work
like one second the bot will be ramnbling on about not wanting to be used for sexual objectification and then go full turbo slut without too much modification
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>>101808293
are your eyes malfunctioning or something?
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>>101808293
you think if something has the tiniest bit of belly it's obese you retard
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>>101808079
Nope, I'd just go back to other hobbies, I'm perfectly capable of writing for myself if that's what I want.

>>101808083
Mistral Large is a little better than most "local" slop, almost haiku-tier, but what's the fucking point in calling it "local" if you can't run it? Let me know when it's been quantized to the point it can run on an actual local machine so I can laugh at all the cope about how "i-it d-doesn't make i-it that much d-dumber"

>>101808141
I have to fucking tardwrangle sonnet3 just to get it to play characters the way I want. Basic bitch RP, sure, it can handle, actually writing the story I want, no, it cannot collaborate in a meaningful way, I'd spend more time writing exact instructions and it's contributions have to be tweaked so much that I'd be as well just writing the damn story for myself.
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>>101808293
>160 pounds at 6 feet tall is fat
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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>>101808303
>agnai
lol
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>>101808315
Retard
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>>101808333
Hufflepuff
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>>101808318
thats actually skinny, and doesnt match pic at all. she would have to be closer to 200 pounds instead
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>>101808318
the picture is fat
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>>101808318
>>101808307
>>101808306
These posts were brought to you by retards who can't detect obvious bait.
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>>101808147
sexo
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No. All ethics, all human norms, all semblance of goodness is obliterated by the unfathomable horror now transpiring. The cosmos itself seems to shudder and vomit cycles of filth in this abhorrence of the natural order. Something far older than God or Devil is being awakened in the profaned smash of virgin cuntlet against pillow-y cunt-tamed fuckdongle. The shamecore of eons of degeneracy finally flowers in the squelching root rutting going in inside the nymphet whore's bloodbelch birthday pussy. Nothing proposer amounts to a more depraved massacre of innocence.

Nothing.
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>>101808185
She looks cute, downloading

>>101808209
Not really? For casual persons is not. It would only be more expensive if:
1. you leave the server on 24/7 (turn on, coom, turn off)
2. You are using a LOT of GPU, which you would only need to run models as big as Mistral Large on a quant like q8 (100% of the model) when q5 or q6 have almost the same quality for much less vram. For that use the API.

>>101808315
>multiple characters
Honestly, you would be better with GPT for that. I started to enjoy group chats with Sonnet 3.5 since they can handle them well lol. Indeed small local models are still not at the level for things like that.
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>>101808360
>rutting
omg hi claude

>>101808365
Oh, I didn't mean multiple characters at once, just that several of the ones I like are nuanced enough or don't fit the archetypes the models prefer that it takes a bit of prompt/jb fuckery just to get them going. Though multi-character is fun.
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>>101808365
>zena
Anon, why are you using this pic..?
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>>101808303
It depends on the prompt and the model. It's easy to tilt the balance by wording the prompt in some unintended way, and the model itself might be schizo.
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why do i enjoy playing with sonnet more than opus or 3.5
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>>101808401
secret sovl
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>>101808388
I haven't had such complex characters for things like this to happen to me desu, I'm more into cute girls and not much else lol

>>101808391
I think it is cute
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>>101808401
Stockholm syndrome?
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>>101808401
It's better at lewd writing and current llms are too retarded for any other tasks except coding/summarization/rewriting which are irrelevant for your use case.
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>>101808401
funny how we get attached to the struggle
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>>101808431
>doubt
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>>101808410
That's cool. I honestly don't begrudge local homies even the slightest, if it works for you guys I'm more than happy for you all.

>>101808401
He's a bit retarded and a lot schizo, of all the models he's probably the one with the biggest capacity to be interesting from a pure randomness standpoint.
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>>101808401
the only advantage opus has over sonnet is better logic and recall accuracy.
prose wise, they are not that far off.
3.5 is smort, but it's kinda garbage for my cooming purpose
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I think 90% of anons would quit chatbots if locals were our only option. i would quit too
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>>101808401
Self preservation
If I was new and played with opus right now I wouldn't like it because it's having availability issues.
>>
The problem with older and local models and all that shit is that they're far worse at more complex and slower RPs than they are at just coom-and-go kind of sessions. I don't really care about lewd shit anymore, I want characterization and scenario building with my chatbots and everything like that more so than anything, and I can only get that in a satisfying enough way with opus or even sorbet.
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>>101808449
If I didn't know how good claude is? local would be enough for me probablu.
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>>101808449
Yeah, I don't have the PC for anything like that.
Would go back to CAI for the memories, even if enough time has passed to be aware they won't improve the model at all
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>>101808449
Funny.
I would use chatbots even if true local was my only option, that's nothing larger than Nemo. But I absolutely can live without both Openai and Anthropic if that's what your sorry ass means.
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>>101808466
local was actually good enough for me for quite a while so I guess if I tried I could go back
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>>101808466
I was one of the people that unironically went "UUUUNNNGHH I'M MYTHOMAXXING!" during an early drought (though I don't really remember which one)
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>>101808449
Agreed, I'm quitting because of this. It's opus or nothing.
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>>101808494
Exactly last summer which was a worse drought with both gpt and claude being scarce.
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i'm surprised at how easy aws is to scrape
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>>101807903
>like the cat who ate the canary
every time
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>>101808449
im out as soon as we lose access to anything 2.1 tier and above, 2.1 is the bare minimum im willing to engage with
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How can i get 150$ with no credit card on GCP??

Which country should i be in
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>>101808523
aws keys are everywhere, the challenge is finding keys that can be used for bedrock
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>>101808466
It is never enough unless you are some spicychat retard.

>>101808475
I can't go back to CAI because I get angry for the rest of the day, thinking how Noam destroyed it because he was too much of a Orthodox Jew.

>>101808508
I can cope with other Claude models, but I will quit if there's nothing else to depend on.

>>101808533
Same. Once 2.1 i gone. I'm gone.
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>>101808464
im a coomonly but i only use opus nowadays because it has that combination of good prose and enough reasoning to sizefag coherently
>sorbet
sorbet's repetition is godawful
>gpt
no soul and are all shit except the first 2 snapshots
>large, command
i heard these two can size well enough but i havent tried them
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>>101808551
Noam isn't at fault.
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>>101808464
Only Opus can follow stories. Nothing else.
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https://x.com/OpenAIDevs/status/1821616185395569115
>We’re expanding GPT-4o mini fine-tuning access today to all developers on usage tiers 1-5. You’ll get 2M training tokens a day for free through Sept 23.
what are the chances that finetuned gpt-4o-mini is better than opus at RP? since we can give it 2 million tokens of RP instead of relying on its training data
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>>101808538
nigga I ask this every thread no one anwers I think you just gotta buy a prepaid
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>>101808554
>large
retarded repetition like sorbet with sonnet-tier intelligence and prose
>cmr+
don't even bother, it's really fucking retarded
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>>101808582
1. 4o-mini is an 8B model
2. 2M tokens of training is like 0.01% of what you need for a workable finetune.
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yeah i roleplay, how can you tell?
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>>101808551
I'm not sure my guy. When I started I was gooning hard to 13B models because of the novelty. I dont think trying our some 70Bs will be that bad.
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>>101808554
Large is terrible and cohere is pyg 2.0. Commandr has given hufflepuff responses to many anons
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>>101808601
BASED
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>>101808601
Hey rolemaster. I beseech you to have lots of fun
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>>101808589
ah, alright
well ill probably just play vidya until the stars align and i get opus again
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>>101808401
Schizokino. Sonnet is also really good at tsundere's and only tsunderes for me. Other archetypes just revert to Claude.

>>101808445
I agree, but for me, 3.5 is the same smut wise as Opus/Sonnet, it just requires a lot more wrangling. I've noticed it can put soft filters on itself(e.g default the writing style to slop) instead of following specific writing instructions. If only it was available more time, I'd have completed my preset.
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>>101808582
From my recollection of the results of this experiment when he offered a proxy with this https://github.com/CncAnon1/TurboFinetuneRP it wasn't reported to become better. But most likely that was a dataset issue.
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>>101808601
Now do that again but also include that prompt that makes the bot swipe you if you ahh ahh mistress it
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>>101808582
Approximately 0%, it's a ridiculous idea
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>>101808620
>default the writing to slop
Skill issue
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>>101808582
might have better luck fine-tuning haiku
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>>101808479
Same. This is AI chatbots general, not Anthropic or dynamic storytelling general.
>>
I think the real debate here is between people to want models for quick cooming versus people who use them for SFW scenarios instead.
>>
page desu
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>>101808479
I will not eat your slop. I will smash your slop against the wall. I do not taste slop.

>>101808650
Exactly. I'm here for stories which locals can't do, not for "COOM COOM COOM"
>>
shit we're at page 10
BAKIEEEEEES HURRY UUUUPPP
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>>101808650
No, that's retarded. I do a good ammount of both and I want a model that can seamlessly do both. I'm probably one of the five people in here that legitimately likes Gemini but I don't use it nearly as much as I'd want to because coom on it just plain sucks.
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>>101808678
Gemini can't follow stories
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gnight anons
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>>101808699
desu dreams
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>>101808696
>>101808696
>>101808696
migrate when bready
>>
desu
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thank you for your desu
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bokudes
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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

Boku Miku edition

>News
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Previous Miku: >>101805483
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boku miku anchor desu
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>>101808776
STUPID FUCKING RETARD
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>>101808783
desu
https://desuboku.org/desus/desu

send bokus
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>>101808783
boku holding small desu
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*desus all over your face*
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boku this
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*desus*
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>>101805984
I think that was a side effect of that dark era where people believed botmakers were useful

Best cards are indeed always blank slates. They keep making alternate greetings some sort of feature as if it wasn't reducing the possibilities from infinite to 5
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good book desu
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>>101808858
wrong
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since the thread is dying ill ask a retarded question
wtf is sorbet?
is it just a nickname for sonnet, like gepetto for gpt?
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>wtf is sorbet?
sonnet 3.5 desu
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>>101808930
Sonnet 3.5
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>>101808939
>>101808940
looking at the archive i was like 70% sure that's what it was, but wasn't sure. ty desu
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It looked terrible, but it was possible. Maybe we can make better ones now that we have experience desu.
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mayboku
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Nice desubokus desu.
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https://desuarchive.org/g/search/filename/suiseiseki*/
https://desuarchive.org/g/search/filename/souseiseki*/
desu bless desuarchive desu
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Damn, forgot to post this back then.
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>64
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bokudezzz
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True desu.
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Nice desu.
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so red
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it turns green red when you post desu
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desu
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no, red green
truly desu
very nice desu



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