How do you justify buying any GPU that isn't a used RTX 3090?
>>101990510Did this person take out their GPU to make a sexy photo of it but then didn't bother dusting it off a little bit?
>>101990510I don't want a card that draws 350 W.
>usedugh, pooor people.the world would be a better place if we erased them all
>>101990510I bought a new 4090 because my 3090 exploded.
>>101990510by buying 4090 48gb or 4080 32gb
>>101990510>>>/v/
>>101990662you can undervolt and power limit
>>101990510I agree with you, the only thing I've bought besides used rtx 3090s is when I was able to pick up 2 rtx a6000s for 3k a piece which I got for their unusually high vram (don't bother trying now, you can't find them less than 4500).
>>101990510I don't need to justify anything. My GTX 1060 still works fine and I'm going to keep using it for a few years more.
>>101990510I do not. 4chinx is an echo-chamber.Also you will never have sex with a real woman.
My Nvidia rep told me that if a card was used for mining it was going to explode any second and I should only buy brand new, genuine Nvidia products from a trusted retail store or through nvidia.com
>>101990510I'm replacing my 3080 with a 5070hopefully near 4090 performance with 200w
>>101991812should sell 3080 now before price drop for 50 series coming out
Discrete GPUs are bloat. Emacs and i3 run just fine on integrated graphics.
>>101991812>5070it's never coming out
>>101990510RX 6900 XT BTFO it in every way including RT and it could be bought brand new for $500
But mom! THIS will lead us to AGI! Just don't look at the power bill! I already saved so much by not buying 4090s!
>>101990510becauz their all fucked from mining/ai/cuda sd shit and are crap in gaming compared to 4080 79xtx
>>101992263based i loved mine sold it when the 79xtx came out but took 2 years to buy it because world exploded
>>1019905107900XTX is both faster and cheaper, including AI.
>>101990510my time is too much to bother ruminating on purchasing decisions that aren't even a big deal in the first place.if you were gambling, or doing drugs, or buying a clapped out 40 year old Porsche thats going to cost you like $80K just to get working again because you're obsessed with it, then we have an issue and an intervention needs to occur.but a 4090? who gives a fucking shit. that's worth every penny. people need to stop paying attention to stuff like FPS/W calculations. they don't represent the real world value. your time is worth like $200/hr objectively, even if you aren't actually earning that. treat your time as if it is, and your personal decision-making skills will improve dramatically.i've seen NEETs on here toil over a $50 purchase for like weeks straight. this behavior is not okay.
>>101992362*mean't FPS/$, points/$, that sort of stuff
>>101992319>amd>ailol no
Saving for a car
>>101990510ga102 gpus are massive power hogsi'd choose an ad104 gpu like the 4070S over that 10 times out of 10
>>101992473not when you're a weg dev like me tho
>>101990510>justifyi'm a grown ass men, i don't need excuses to buy shit. i'm weird like that.
>>101990510i have enough points on my amazon card from my business expenses to pay for 2 5090s when they finally release. Probably a new processor and mobo too by that time.Is that a good justification?
>>101990829>4090 48gbson, santa is not real.
>>101992690>he doesn't know
>>101991812It won’t even best a 4080.
>>1019905104070 Supers outperforms it and it's way more efficent
>>101992263>>101992735I hate vramlets so much
>>101990726You would instantly become poor.
>>1019927353090 is almost exactly the same speed as a 4070 Ti, it's faster than a 4070 Super. It also has double the VRAM.
>>101992690There's an embargo on server/datacenter cards to China, so the chinks are buying the PCBs for the datacenter cards and the GPU chips from the consumer cards and soldering them on.
>>101990510But my 3060ti plays all the games and emulators i want at a +60 framerate in [spoiler]ultrawide[/spoiler]It only starts shitting the bed with anno 1800 lategame, but that's a cpu bottleneck problem. Just dont play the AAA slop.
>u need to buy 3090 otherwise your build is worthless!The 3090 shills in /lmg/ are the most stubborn anons I've seen in a long while. Before that it was NixOS fags.
>>101994185NixOS is actually good thoughever
>>101992266How fucking poor are you that +$0.05/kW is an issue?
retarded consoomer threadif you're not running a corebooted thinkpad then you don't belong on /g/
>>101990510even a fucking 7900 XT is both cheaper and perform better in games lmao
>>101994581nobody cares about the memes you fell for
>>101994718it's not a meme, you literally don't need moreit runs vim and emacs acceptably fast. it runs ed, the standard editor, very fast. it displays web pages. what else would you do, gayming?
>>101990510AMD cards are a lot cheaper. I'm into AI but I do that mostly on cloud. Quick experiments on amazon studio lab and for long training I'll just rent GPUs. Doing AI locally is expensive and isn't actually feasible for large models and training. For small things like stable diffusion and small LLMs, AMD cards are well supported, and I don't think that small performance gain from switching to nvidia really makes a difference if you're not running 24/7. And if you run 24/7 you'd better off renting from cloud services. Spending that much to just get a used GPU with inferior spec is just stupid.
>>101990510I bought a rtx 4060 because it's cheap and doesn't draw a lot of power
>>101990662Why? because electricity is expensive where you live?
>>101994787it can't play games, it can't run editing softwares. I process tons of blurays a day with makeMKV and I don't want it to takes hours when it could take minutes instead.
>>101994787Can it encode videos at an acceptable rate?Protip: anymore more than a minute(s) for webms and an hour for archived recordings means no
>>101994787lol it can't run shit you dumb faggot
>>101990510Because a new 4080 super will get the job done.
>>101995344>>101995387Ok you got me here, it's not good for encoding video.>>101995687Cry more.
>>101992362I just used the /pcbg/ recs and called it a day
I just don't see the need to upgrade past 2 p40s with the current state of LLMs and the market at large. Not shelling out more cash unless they really crank up the VRAM, but I imagine Nvidia isn't going to be the only video card producer with all this Ai stuff for it to be used with. Player 3 enters the game soon. Driving prices down or another sheltered bay to buy cheaper hardware from, it's inevitable.
>>101990510>used RTX 3090It doesn't have long to live after being mining cryptos 24/7 for a few years.
>>101997030Huh? It's used up all the silicon? You can tell by your photo?
>>101996947cry more yourself
>>101990510I bought an Arc A770 LE 16GB at launch in protest against the Nvidia monopoly. No this isn't Intel shilling, especially after the 13/14th gen fiasco. I just want there to be a legitimate 3rd contender in the GPU space, despite knowing AMD and Intel are likely to never catch up in market share.
>>101997470Is that even capable of 4gay?
>>101995319Not really, I just don't like wasting power, just like I don't like rebooting my computers.
>>102001039>5pm replyah a fellow wagie
Grow out of the gaming phase and step up to the big bois
>>101992362>the things I like wasting money on are OK, the things other people waste money on are not OK.Holy cope.
>>101997470>AMD… are likely to never catch up in market share.That’s what they said about AMD CPUs during the phenom and bulldozer era.
>>102001165I got 2 of these last year before the hype picked up, I got them at 3k a piece. I've been wondering if I should sell them now at 4.5k a piece. I could just pick up an extra large mobo with 4 slots for 3090s. The main perk of the 2x a6000s was getting more vram for my measily 2 pcie slots
>>102001717people won't buy at 4.5k
>>101990510I got a used 3090 a few months ago as a second gpu. It would turn the screen into confetti about once a week because of "Internal microcontroller halt" which is a hardware issue that can't be fixed apparently. Returned it recently. Wondering if I should roll the dice again, or get a new 3090, or a 4090.
>>102001785what do you think I could sell them for?
>>102001838what are you using the card for? if its for gaming you really don't need a 3090. if it's for AI, just use your chip's integrated graphics for the graphical part of your computer, just use the card for AI, you shouldn't have an issue
>>102001838like this?
>>101990662>nvidia-smi -pl 130
>>101990510Used 3090 are unironically a great value, but it depends a lot of where you live. If crypto mining is common then don't risk it. Also I'd recommend to only get one if you can test it beforehand. Even better, if you get it from a vendor that offers a warranty.
>>102001388It's entirely in the realm of the possible that AMD could catch up to Nvidia in games, which would be huge and great for the market, but CUDA still gives Nvidia a monopoly on everything non gaming related, and that won't change any time soon.
>>102002031Great, you just crippled your performance by over half. Why did you buy a 3090 again?
>>102002074cheap vram
>>102002138MI100 is cheaper
>>101990510You WILL buy used gpus.You WILL be happy.Crypto miners WILL be happy.Your gpu WILL then brick.You WILL then be sad.
cryptomining doesn't hurt gpus, but anyway feel free to believe that since it leaves more cheap used gpus for me
>>102002776COPE
>>101994471where i live its 0.35/kw.
>>101990628The dust adds character.
>>101990510not buying a card with nvidia drivers
>>101991674>a6000slol retards want 10-15k aud here
>>102003550yeah I was going on EU prices which is like 4.5k usd at the moment (asking price, actual price they get is usually lower)
>>101990510Because I'll never buy an NVidia GPU again until Jensen is out.The last good card that shit company ever made was the 2070S, ever since then they've actively worked against everybody, and treats anyone that doesn't directly affect their bottom line like shit.