>no anime op
cringe

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Anything to look out for when I want a basic bitch secondary monitor with pivot for vertical position? Any brands with fragile/squeaking mounts or other stuff to avoid?

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>>102046874
intel = anime
https://pso2.com/players/news/campaign20210701/

i've got 2x16gb g.skill trident z5 neo ddr5-6000 cl30
i would like to upgrade to 64gb
should get another 2x16 pair, or get a 2x32 pair?
i only ask because i've seen some off hand comments about stability when doing the 2+2x16 thing. is that mostly a meme?

>>102047416
What cpu do you have?

>>102047490
7900x

>>102047506
Google says it only supports dual channel.
Assuming this is the amd one.
4 if intel i9.

Thank fuck. The TR Silver Soul 135 mobo bracket fits on my MATX board inside the NCase M2 where the PA 120 mini didn't. I suspect, looking the the pics, that the Noctua D12L bracket would also fit too.

Some 120mm fans do fit in the top too even with this large board. This shits coming together nicely. Tiny form factor with air cooling and no compromises. I'm still pretty interested to see how the C4-sfx v2 turns out too.

Anyone have the AOC 24G4? It's only $125 at best buy now.

>>102047608
i'm seeing conflicting reports because of improvements in bios updates.
i think i might just end up buying another 2x16 to start and if isn't stable i'll return.

>>102047416
Mostly not a meme, alas. Also, more sticks = more strain on the CPU's RAM controller. So even two of the exact same 2x16 @6000 kits may not run as 4x16 @6000, at least not without some fine-tuning of RAM settings.

>>102047809
He will probably have to buy a 4x kit since buying another 2 kits and adding it to his first might not work together too well.

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"""4nm"""

>>102046807
Nvidia gib 5080 pls. ty

>>102047965
That'll be $1500 plus tax thank you sir.

>>102046807
>1050ti
>8320-e CPU
>16gb ram
Thinking about upgrading my GPU to a 3060. My CPU never caps so fuck it. Ram will be upgraded to 32gb soon. Any places to look at coming up for sales?

>>102047980
No tip? That's a steal!

>
>MOTHERBOARDS
Good power delivery is required for Intel CPUs like the i5 13600K and above
Don't pair a K CPU with a B mobo chipset

what about amd

>>102047986
CPU is absolute dog shit. Its worse than Sandybridge 2500K.

Seriously consider CPU upgrade. Its shit.

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>Gaming
>RGB
>Overclocked
Can I please get some parts that aren't made for niggers?

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>>102047890
Will the combined protracted bad press and poor sales of consumer Zen 5 mean AMD will try to make Zen 6 more appealing or has that train left the station already?
https://old.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/1ev53t8/cpu_retail_sales_week_33_mf_lowest_demand_for_new/

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>>102046807
Basically want to make sure I can't get anything better/cheaper, I'm still in shock over the £120 for a motherboard with okay VRMs and I/O.

>>102048213
It's far less important.

>>102046807
Ah, the good OP again!

>>102047809
Wtf so I’m fucking myself with having x4 8GB sticks damn so much for the 3600 CL14 timing shit

>>102048792
You can save £83 by ordering the 5700X3D off AliExpress which is where most of the stock got dumped by AMD initially:
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806921974699.html

You can go cheaper on the motherboard and still run the 5700X3D fine (it'll come down to what features & I/O you need) with the floor being for £40 less:
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/TG9tt6/asrock-b550m-phantom-gaming-4-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b550m-phantom-gaming-4

Nitpick options:
3600CL18 RAM is effectively the same speed as 3200CL16, so this kit of the latter will give you identical performance for £4 less
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/gtddnQ/kingston-fury-beast-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-kf432c16bb1k232

You can swap out the Phantom Spirit for the Peerless Assassin on X3D chips and not really notice the slightly higher temps for £5 less
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/CwqPxr/thermalright-peerless-assassin-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-peerless-assassin-120

>>102048792
>I'm still in shock over the £120 for a motherboard
Then don't buy an ovepriced one? What specific I*O you ned that isn't in something way cheaper?

how can I be sure I mounted my AIO pump tight enough on my CPU? what telltale signs about CPU temps and liquid temps should I see if I didn’t mount it tight enough? 7950X3D

>>102049053
>AliExpress
Not him but thanks for the tip.

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Wife needs a new laptop for school. Not gaming.
What do I look for? All I know is that we want a large screen.

>>102049422
>Wife
Macbook Pro/Air depending on what exactly "school" means.

>>102049422
Buy a 7800 dollar MacBook Pro then break it and buy a 200 laptop from Walmart and break that.

>>102048273
>Seriously consider CPU upgrade. Its shit.
eh they are cheap anyways. I'll poke around PC parts picker to find what works with my mobo

Which ddr4 ram should I pick up for my 12700k? ddr5 would require a mb swap and I would rather do that when I replace everything. Just want to get 64GB going.

>>102049553
nta but you need to either stick with what you have or build a whole new PC.

Is it fine to build AM5 with one 16Gb RAM stick for now?
Tryna fit in the budget and considering getting a second one later.

Also, is this mobo passable at least? I can get it for cheap.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/z7yH99/msi-pro-b650m-b-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-pro-b650m-b

>>102049571
>Which ddr4 ram should I pick up for my 12700k? ddr5 would require a mb swap and I would rather do that when I replace everything. Just want to get 64GB going.
Whatever the cheapest 2x32GB DDR4 4300CL16 kit happens to be at the time. Right now that's this for $103:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rMK2FT/patriot-viper-4-blackout-64-gb-2-x-32-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-pvb464g320c6k

Pretty silly since I do not care about the extra high refresh rate but I do want that new 480hz PG27AQDP just for the new woled subpixel layout since it would finally be a 1440p oled with decent text. Probably should just get one of the 4k versions of the panel especially since the 32GS95UE is cheaper right now but I do not want to give up the performance of 1440p.

>>102049580
>>102049553
yeah a new(or used) mobo+cpu+ram is needed for it at the very least. given the current used market, you could prob find a used i5 9th or 8th gen + or ryzen 3000+ gen for ~$100 on ebay. imo thats prob a valid path if he's low on cash.

>>102049581
Sure, you can always upgrade to another 16gb stick of the same series few months later

>>102049581
>Is it fine to build AM5 with one 16Gb RAM stick for now?
>Also, is this mobo passable at least?
Eh it'll run but it rather defeats the point. In that you won't really be getting the benefits of AM5. If $100 (which would be enough to both get 32GB and a good mobo) is going to break you then you should consider saving more or building AM4/1700.

Zen5 X3D specs released when

>>102049580
>>102049644
isn't for me. The lady thinks slapping a new GPU and ram will fix all her problems. She is probably 80% right but still

>>102049598
Thank you

>>102046807
>pic rel
Does this mean this new port won't be backwards compatible with power supplies with the current standard?

>>102049702
I don't know what to tell you man. Other than "it won't".
The problem is that any single upgrade just won't do what it's meant to do. A new card won't let her play modern games because the CPU will hold it back. A new CPU won't do it either because, well, 1050 Ti.

>>102049702
>>102049834
CPU will bottleneck the new gpu by anywhere from 30-50% imo. It just wont be able to keep up with cpu calls in modern gaming.

>>102047416
DIMMs sold as dual kits are only ever rated to hit their advertised speeds when only that kit pair is installed. Even buying two of the same kit is not technically supported by the manufacturer, and is why quad kits with high speeds aren't as common/more expensive.
Of course, most people just make two dual kits work because 95% of the time it will just work fine.
Hell in my current system I'm mixing 1Rx8 x2 with 2Rx16 x2 for 48GB of DDR4 @ 3200MHz on a board that only "supports" 2933MHz and it's been working fine for years.

Has anyone tried LSD in front of traffic lights? How does that compare to LEDs in my case, LEDs on my CPU, LEDs in my cooling, and LEDs on my RAM?

>>102049053
>>102049193
Damn thanks. 5700X3D for $155 is a steal. But I have a 5700X currently. I was gonna upgrade to a 5800X3D for the 25% or so performance boost since those are going for the mid $200s on Amazon rn, how far off is the 5700X3D from the 5800X3D perf wise?

>>102049934
I've never had LSD in front of traffic lights specifically, but I do think it's going to be trippier than traffic lights
>>102049936
It's like 5% difference in benchmarks. In practice they perform the same
>t. 5700x3d owner

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>>102049053
>>102049936
>aliexpress
How trust worthy is it?

NOOB HERE!

I'm looking at a itx pc on marketplace. It's $800 cad

Here are the details.

Cooler Master NR200 Mini ITX case
Ryzen 5 5600 6 Core 12 Thread Processor
Gigabyte Gaming OC 8G RTX 3060Ti
Corsair Vengence LPX 16GB (2x8) RAM
AsRock B550M-ITX/ac motherboard
CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Black Edition CPU Cooler
512gb M.2 + 500GB Samsung 860 EVO SSD
Corsair SF 600 PSU

6 Arctic Cooling P12 PWM 120mm Case Fans (2 on the bottom, 2 on the CPU cooler, and 2 on the top)

Main use cases are video editing, blender, motion graphic, music production and gaming.

Is there a better small form factor pc I could build for the same amount of money? Or is this a decent purchase?

Thanks for the help guys.

Will the single CCD zen5 CPUs (9700x3d or 9800x3d) be 65W, or more or less

>>102049702
>The lady thinks
Ladies don't think.

>>102050048
They're 100% going to be 105w. AMD won't repeat the same mistake for their gaming chips.

Bought a used 12gb rtx 3060 on eBay but it came as a 8gb version instead. What do? The website says return it but then I have pay return shipping and the scammer doesn't even get punished?

>>102050064
i thought the 3D cache needed to be volt limited compared to the non-X3D, and that meant the wattage would be lower.

Are they just going to go full retard intel style and pump excess voltage into their chips?

>>102048790
DIY zen 5 is basically irrelevant. They spit out the 9800x3d and 9950x3d (lmao why the 990x3d exists), retake performance crown and this will all be forgotten. What will happen is OEMS and especially the server big bois will sit up and take notice of power:performance and be all over it.

>>102049660
That makes things a lot easier, thanks.

>>102049678
Is the motherboard a part of the problem or just the single RAM stick? If it's just the RAM - I can cope with reduced performance now to easily upgrade later, but if the mobo also gonna need a replacement then yeah, no point.

I'd save more money, but need to buy something now.

>>102050039
I've ordered stuff off them plenty of times. CPU dies are small, lightweight, and not nearly as fragile/prone to shipping damage as PCB electronics with loads of mosfets/caps like Mobos/GPUs are.

>>102050301
I dont trust fake CPU shit from china. Thats my concern. I've bought plenty of fake shit from aliexpress knowing they're fake/copies, so I know what im getting myself into.

>>102050042
>nr200 for itx build
trash

>>102050331
Any recommendations?

AMD is so dead.
This was the only year when they will ever be ahead of intel and they completely blew it.

the 5800X3D is still faster than *rr*w L*k* so eh

>>102050050
>Ladies don't think.
I mean yeah read my post. They feel more than think

Anyone have a list of the gen 4 ssd's that have dram?

>>102050537
For a company named intel you sure lack intelligence

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I want to upgrade mainly just my processor and RAM. So I need a new motherboard. So I am hoping for a good one to be recommended. But am also curious if I should go for a Ryzen 7000 series CPU or wait and see about the 9000 X3D chips. I do video editing in addition to gaming, so IDK if I should get an X3D CPU or just a regular X CPU.

GPU: RTX 4080 FE
CPU: Ryzen 7 5700X
RAM: 32GB DDR4 3200
Mobo: MSI Tomahawk B550

>>102051032
I'd wait for the 9KX3D cpus to see what they bring.

>>102050735
https://www.techpowerup.com/ssd-specs/search/?interface=PCIe%204.0%20x4&dram=1&formfactor=2

I don't care for things being advertised at their overclocked rates

>>102050735
get a KC3000

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>TFW AMD GPU

>>102050761
AMD fanboys are pathetic.
What does AMD have? Nothing. Their chip design is still inferior to intel. They rely on chinks to manufacture their design and because intel fabs were temporarily behind that was their only advantage for 2-3 years. Intel will have the most advanced fabs in the world in 2025 and also make chips for others which will kill the chinks and as for AMD.... I have very bad news for you but they will have no choice but make their inferior chips at intel before going bankrupt.

>>102046807
why do these queers do things like this. it's a fucking molex connector why does it need to be unique special sauce. just give me TWO SCREW TERMINALS.

>>102047746
Doesn't have a single overdrive mode that's good for the entire refresh rate
Not worth buying a 1080p monitor at this point

>>102047986
CPU is garbage. Full upgrade, also get an SSD if you don't have one

>>102048792
You probably don't buy AM4 at this point. An R5 7600 has the same average perf as the 5700X3D, and you'll have an upgrade path on AM5. Compared with the components you picked, you spend a couple bucks more on DDR5 to go AM5

>>102050127
Contact ebay customer support

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>>102051235

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Would extra support by screws solve the 12vpcvwp issue or it would just rip the pcb?

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>>102051235
>AMD GPU

>13700k is compromised
>really don't want to RMA and will likely be waiting a while
i have a 8600k build laying about
hopefully that will suffice for the time being
seriously cursed that AM5 ended up being a fart in the wind cause i was earnestly going to just switch over

>>102049885
Mixing dual kits really suck desu. My 2x2x8gb 3600cl16 1.35v wasn't as stable as a single 4x8gb 4000cl15 1.50v kit I got despite the former having lower voltages and less aggressive settings

>>102051821
AM5 is fine, the 7800X3D is still the top gaming cpu (I guess you mean Zen5).
you have a few options.
a)install the microcode patch in the 1700 build, migrate back to the 8600K and RMA the 13700K and wait until it gets back.
b) run the 13700K until it dies and then RMA it, migrate to the 8600K and wait until the 13700K gets back.
c) run the 13700K until it dies, don't RMA it, migrate to a new AM5 or the new Intel socket platform.

>>102051032
X3D is a must have if you're just gaming and have a 4080 or 4090 GPU

>hardware unboxed zen 5 grift is still going
>now complaining about AMD using official ingame benchmarks and not using intel's ultra housefire power profile
>video affliate links are still 90% AMD and include zen 5
lmao

>>102051238
Why does raptorlake need 180W to compete with a 65W 7800x3d and perform only 97% as fast then?

>>102050315
I boughted a 5500 from AliExpress didn't come with cooler though

>>102051951
In fact only the PSU and case of my pc we're not bought from AliExpress

>>102051897
>if you're just gaming
I'm also doing video work. Still worth it?

>>102051238
i work in an intel fab
hate to burst your bubble...
but shits a mess

>>102051879
zen5 yes, i have brainrot
i'll probably just suck it up with the 8600k, rma the 13700k, and wait for 9000x3d
if it isnt worth it, then i'll just run with the 13700k when i get it back
if it turns out well, i'll just sell the returned 13700k and board, or keep it as a back up and sell the 8600k with its board instead

>>102052013
green badge post

>>102051032
>>102052003
There isn't a huge difference between 5700X and 7800X3D whether in video encoding or gaming. However the 7950X3D can encode twice as a fast as a 5700X, but it's almost $200 more than the 7800X3D. 7900X probably makes most sense price-to-performance in your case and still having a significant improvement in encoding than the 5700X.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d/17.html

>>102052044
sell the 13th gen and get 7800x3d
9800x3d isnt launching anytime soon

>>102052173
>tranime

>>102052173
>white pc
>blacked board
cuck

>>102049885
Don't give advice like that. What you're doing in DDR4 will really not work in DDR5, which is what the guy you're replying to is actually using.

>>102052173
>1 single stick of ram

>>102052013
I work at nintendo

>>102051911
cause it's 10nm vs 5nm (meaning higher power consumption, smaller transistors switch faster and do that with less voltage and less energy) and without v-cache (more cache means the cpu has to fetch data from RAM less often which costs energy and leads to the cpu waiting for data and doing nothing on that thread in other words more cache makes the cpu faster and more efficient) and it's remarkable that intel despite this beats AMD or is on par.

>>102049125
You should be worried about over-tightening, not the cooler being lose. A tight cooler does literally nothing for heat, the goal of a cooling unit is to just attach to a CPU and then not move. Your thermal block isn't a brick, it doesn't need to be viced to the motherboard, that can crack the board.

>>102052173
>footnigger

>>102052214
Mutts law in two posts

Well, it finally happened. I will finally be replacing my 4790k system with:
>amd ryzen 9 5900x
>MSI MEG X570 UNIFY as my mobo
>64gb - 3600 of gskill ram

Totaling around $500. How did I do? I dont care buying new tech especally with degrading shitel cpus or mememd 9000 series. I built my haswell system in 2016, 3 years after haswell release. I have not opened my steam account since 2020 so 3d chips are not relevant to me. Or was i supposed to buy the 7000 series after all? Hoping to last another 8+ years.

>>102052173
Couldnt even splurge a bit more for the gigabyte ice or asrock steel legend?

>>102047890
no better than 13th gen
seems cpus in the desktop space have peaked now they dont have die shrinks as a crutch

>>102052314
I suppose it looks fine so long as you don't do anything AVX512 related. I'm not checking prices, I'm assuming the mobo costs as much as a regular B550 board.

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>>102050141
>Are they just going to go full retard intel style and pump excess voltage into their chips?
bingo then this will happen but to amd, i already had a bunch of zen 1-3 chips degrade without even ocing them lol

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>>102052106
>There isn't a huge difference between 5700X and 7800X3D whether in video encoding or gaming
The jump in gaming is substantial. 50% faster. But that of course relies on having a GPU fast enough to take advantage of the extra performance

>>102052238
>beats AMD
with 300 more watts

>>102051463
>12vpcvwp
12vhwpr?
No the cable is fundamentally flawed pins too small cables too small gauge too much resistence

>>102052314
i had one of those 4yrs ago great cpu loved it but wasnt fast enough so i went to 13600k 64gb 3200 z690

even this cpu bottlenecks the shit out of my 79xtx i cant imagine how even higher end cpu fags feel when their 4090 is bottlnecked by a 200-500w intel/amd housefire

>>102052108
Very strongly considering it, if I am being completely honest.
It would only be ~$450-500 for the chip and board, and I figure an rma'd 13700k with my board could get me ~$300.

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>>102052501
>>102052108
>>102052044
>>102051879
>>102051821
fuck that sucks mt 136k is abosolutely fine and i got it used (me and the previous owner never oc'd)

Ill be sure to send anyone whos had this shit happen a sticker, maybe ill setup a store lol

>>102052539
have you applied the microcode update?

>>102052552
yep newest bios on

>>102052552
I dont think it really matters for i5s
>0x125: fix tvb overvolting issue
>tvb only available on i9s
>0x129: cap VID requests to 1.55v
>1.55v VID only ever gets requested on bad binned i7s (worst 10%), 70% of i9s and 0% of i5s

>>102052622
all Raptorlake are affected.

>>102052314
>X570
Isn't that the shit that needs active cooling on the chipset?

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imma finna buy a 5080

>>102052630
Exactly, intel's fixes are only targeted at i7/i9s to reduce the risk of it happening
The root cause is still as elusive as ever

>>102052630
Don't worry anon, they are simply in bargaining stage. Acceptance will come soon enough.

>>102052642
Can I have your used 4090 good sir

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>>102052642
That will be $1.550 dorra, sar

>>102052659
that's generous

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>>102052654
I have a 1060

>>102052641
nah, it doesn't need active cooling. active cooling is what motherboard vendors chose because a smaller heatsink and a small fan is cheaper than a slightly larger heatsink. it was only like 40w or something.
AMD released a later X570 chipset so vendors could justify their smaller heatsinks.

>This new Dream OLED panel tech from LG is said to be under production evaluation and could be commericialized “within the year”. Of course, that just means LG could begin manufacturing the panels for sale within a year. Actual PC monitors or TVs with the new panels would take a little longer.
Anyone understand how panel roll out works? My guess it will go to tvs first, so 2029 is for monitors? Should I go full retard on OLED now? I really want it.

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Currently looking at secondhand CPUs and I've found one that's cheap, but there's this yellow line on it.
The seller seems to have cleaned it up pretty well otherwise, so would this be some kind of corrosion?

>>102052721
that's a reflection of the ceiling light

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Selecting a perfect screen in 2024 is such a fucking volatile process. You can't just get a 32, 4K, 240hz screen. Also are higher refresh rates a scam?

>>102052173
for me, its kyouka

>>102052721
is that a 8700k

>>102052781
high refresh is good for esports where you can actually get those frames and general usage/browsing looks smoother
whether either of those is worth the money is a personal choice

>>102052781
>You can't just get a 32, 4K, 240hz screen.
I mean you can if you are rich. Just get an OLED and be done with it. If monetary consequences of importance you need to think if you should and if can cover the cost in few years without losing money.
>Also are higher refresh rates a scam?
no, we ideally want 3000hz monitors

>>102052820
>where you can actually get those frames
you don't need the frames to take advantage of high refresh being able to refresh fast enough so you don't see any tearing if fps is at even divider

>>102052689
Oled became widely available and affordable for TVs in 2017-2018, but for monitors it took until 2023 (no the LG CX/C1 doesnt count)
Just buy whatever you want now, or you'll end up like the dudes holding their breath for MicroLED since 2016

>>102052838
>you don't see any tearing if fps is at even divider
elaborate

>>102052173
hmm

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>>102052839
>been waiting for sed since ~2006

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>>102052685
>and a small fan is cheaper than a slightly larger heatsink
Given how cheap heatsinks are, I really think it had to do with aesthetics.

MB vendors are deathly afraid of putting actual effective passive heatsinks on much of anything nowadays. Everything is a chunk of aluminum with a few slots cut into it, they'll even put heat pipes for all the little it does. Even gigabyte who does have actual finned heatsinks on some very higher end boards put them way too close together to be effective.

Finned heatsinks started to go away on boards when they started to make them look more cohesive and not a mis-mash of different colored parts.

>>102052644
bad manufacturing and pushing badly binned shit to 5-6ghz lol

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>>102046807
Daily reminder to wait for Zen 6 and Rubin/RDNA 5 if you aren't in need for a system now, only time we'll see any appreciable performance uplifts

>>102052689
Get tcl 27r83u instead

anyone know if you can disable the dgpu in lenovo legion laptops and run just the igpu? need to save battery life

>>102052847
so you refresh is 240hz, you fps is 60
240/60=4 120/60=2 even divider is so frames don't happen out of sync too much
the higher the refresh the less noticeable the tearing, I run 144/72 and haven't seen any tearing since 2015.
Some games force 60hz, like damn sekiro, and I see tearing instantly, it's unbearable
VRR is the real scam, it made sense when they first devised it because high refresh rate wasn't that common, but now? pointless.

>>102052916
I had enough of glow. And VA has the smear to boot. Shit angles and G2G is meh at best. I will be downgrading from my IPS.

>>102052801
she's 8 u sick fuck

>>102052962
8 out of 8
perfect

>>102052868
finned VRM heatsinks are A E S T H E T I C
they just need to make them black or silver for modern tastes.

>>102050141
Zen 5 tracks its heat more accurately, and the CCD will be directly interfacing with the heatsink instead of how Zen 3 and 4 did it, where the cache was against the heatsink. It's feasible to think they'll at the least try to boost more.

>>102052659
>that border
I can't believe you clipped an inspirational pic from 20 years ago.

>>102052915
What do we know about the rdna5 that makes it worth it over rdna4?

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>>102052804
Yeah, good guess.

>>102052753
I don't think so, the photo isn't great but the texture of it looks grainy which is concerning.

>>102053007
mine wasn't inspirational, what's the original?

>>102053016
>I don't think so
You're retarded. That's called a reflection.

>>102053036
Just google jew-jitsu, it was one of the inspirational poster memes, that's clearly the same border that's just badly cropped.

>>102047185
the mount that comes with a monitor is always useless for anything other than putting it on the desk as-is. Some of them don't even have tilt adjustment. Get a screen with a VESA mount and a dual-screen stand/monitor arm.

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>>102052969
Nah, naked copper needs to make a comeback

>>102053010
the actual flagship is in the cards, not for RDNA4
if I was AMD I would push RDNA5 in the middle of Nvidia generation, sadly 2nm won't be ready in a year. MCM 2, perfection of ray tracing hybrid tech, 3d stacked caches? Who knows.
AMD side is fun to look for, nvidia does same thing for a decade now, like Intel. AMD has to push new tech to compete without touching nvidia patents.

>>102053059
your pic isn't copper, it's just anodized aluminum. You can anodize aluminum to any of several different colors depending on how you do it, black is most common, but you can do blue, green, or, as shown here, a vaguely light-gold kind of color.

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>>102053059
that's orange anodized aluminum, you were lied to.

https://youtu.be/yDzVWqncMFA
whens 24h2 coming out next month?
wonder if it boosts shitels rust

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>>102053059
Copper is only viable on extreme cards since its so expensive

>>102053112
Copper got a lot more expensive a few years ago.

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>>102053112
>>102053136
yeah its why the copper slugs in stock coolers are actually a copper disk/cap with an interference fit to the aluminum heatsink, the tiny bit of copper costs more than the rest of the aluminum.

Went ahead and put that contact frame on my 12700k, temps are looking MUCH better during cinebench. I was hitting 95 before I put it on, now hitting around 83-85. Very cool

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>>102053157
That's fine, at least you know what you're getting. The heatsinks that try to hide the base so you can't tell if its copper or not is not okay. Some of them are just copper heatpipes mixed with aluminum, all anodized to be one color so you can't tell. They just say it's a copper plate. This doesn't cool as well as a copper plate interfaced to aluminum.

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>btfos amd in AI, upscaling tech, and 3d rendering within first generation
what can we expect from their second attempt

>>102052916
that piece of shit costs as much as the 4k240 alienware oled here, lmao
>>102052822
>we ideally want 3000hz monitors
where did you get this number from? even the blurbuster says 1000hz is enough to mitigate the sample and hold blur
>>102052781
buy the 240hz 4k oled or buy the 480hz 1440p oled (soon)
anything else and I would consider flipping burgers and then buying
>>102052689
yeah wait 5 years to buy the functionally 99% same product as now but 5 years later
makes total sense

>>102053204
They're terrible in 3D rendering, they don't have a single card that beats the 6700XT, and it took them years to beat the 6600XT through driver updates.

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Blackedwell when?

>>102053185
I assume some of that is from fresh paste but that entire socket has been a dumpster fire, at least the new ILM is basically dimensionally the same as washer modded for the "new" socket

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>>102053215
Holy cope. Intel driver already surpassed 7800xt

>>102052689
Will probably be late next year at the earliest just go for it there are good option if you are willing to pay. Text clarity is finally good on them with the 4K 240hz qd-oleds and woleds. The upcoming 1440p 480hz woled should have good text and the 360hz qds are decent. Only announced unreleased things on the horizon are the 480hz 1440p that comes out soon and the 27 4k that is supposed to come out next year.
>>102052781
There are options just go for the oleds that came out this year or pay extra for the worse minileds that cost even more.

>>102053242
it has as much resources as a 3070 on-paper
its still underperforming by 50%

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What am I missing with RAM?
All the 6000mhz CL30 ones are "tested speeds", SPDs seem to be 4800mhz 40-40-40-77 (but these numbers are harder to find). Which is 120m operations/second
My seven year old sticks are SPD 2400mhz 16-16-16-39 (150m operations/second)
Does memory interleaving mean the higher speeds are more important than latency, is there some other spec I'm missing, have I found bad examples, or have they been stagnant this last decade (outside of size)?

>G.Skill F5-6000J3040G32GX2-TZ5RS
>Corsair VENGEANCE RGB 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 DRAM 6000MT/s CL30
>(current) Corsair VENGEANCE LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 DRAM 2400MHz

>>102053157
>>102053112
Copper is also much harder to work with
It's extremely soft, also very hard to machine
It's why some copper water cooling rads can look like ass aesthetically on the fins compared to the cheapest aluminum AIO rads.
Some rads aren't even copper finned but brass as it's much easier to manufacture.

https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments/1eyny65/any_other_intel_employees_here_how_are_yall/
LOL\

>>102053301
>4800mhz...120m operations/second
>2400mhz...150m operations/second
That's not how it works at all

>>102053300
based goalpost moving dubposter

>>102053301
Do you actually think that all RAM operations are completely random? If the CPU needs 2KB of data then the RAM doesn't encounter a latency spike every 64 bits because that's a sequential read.

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Agree?

>>102053301
Those 6000CL30 kits blow every ddr4 kit out of the water save for specially binned b-die like dual-rank 4400cl17 and 4000cl14
DDR5 is way better designed as a single stick is now two 32-bit channels which are easier to saturate than a single 64-bit channel like ddr4, meaning you get closer to the theoretical max perf of what the ram can do.
On DDR4, you'd actually need two ranks per channel (2x SR or 1x DR) to get the most out of it because the 64-bit channel is very inefficient and don't gets saturated easier, leading to weird situations like 3200 CL16 dual rank ram outperforming much faster 4000 cl17 ram because the former can be interleaved and have more addressable banks than the latter.

>>102053373
U knows years ago gpu only accounts for 20% of the pc’s cost. Now it’s about 60% which is insane

>>102053312
this is par for the course when any big company has a round of layoffs
its amazing that these people actually think they have any sort of job security in a corporation as big as intel

>>102053373
$1000 doesn't get you a midrange PC. Just look at that. $150 for the case, PSU, and NVME drive? What are you buying a 512GB drive for the OS and all your games?

>>102053235
Maybe, bit over two years nothing looked crusty or dried out. Definitely needed to be done though.

>>102053373
too many variables across different regions for there to be a one size fits all

>>102053320
>>102053350
>>102053376
Cool, thanks

if a thousans fucking bucks get you a "midrange" PC then what the fuck do you call PCs under $800

>>102053419
ewaste

>>102053419
Office computers that only handle Microsoft Word/Outlook.

>>102053419
We call that a well-priced PC.
There is nothing that demands a fast GPU that is worth playing. Cyberskunk and Alan Cuck 2: Electric Boogaloo aren't video games worth playing.

>>102053444
no video games are worth playing

>>102053373
Define mid-range GPU

>>102053389
its insane that you wouldnt spend a larger percentage of your budget on the part that would directly affect the main use case

>>102053455
1080p@60 high settings, no gimmicks like ray tracing, no crutches like upscaling.

>>102053455
in the middle of the range

just because jensen huang is a subhuman nigger doesn't mean $600 is a good price for a "midrange" GPU, btw.
$300 is the absolute highest that should be paid for a GPU

>>102053419
$600 gets you entry level/low end
anything under that is an office machine.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bdjPRK

>>102053471
You forgot that this is the NVIDIA shill thread where 3 or 4 chatbots shill and gaslight potential visitors into thinking a 4090 is the minimum requirements for rendering 2 flat triangles

>>102053462
Because it was kind of hard too.
There was a time where the highest end CPU was $1k and existed at the same time with $650 flagship GPUs

If you min-maxed with a high end GPU and an i5 then you could get a GPU to be 60% of the price of a PC, but it was very easy for the rest of the build to just eclipse a GPU.

Even an entry level system with an i3 something like a GTX 550 TI, you paid only $150 for the GPU with $350 going to the rest.

>>102053512
There was never a time where the $1000 CPU was good for gaming. If you bought a $1000 Athlon X2 or Pentium D then you'd get WORSE performance than just buying a good single core CPU. Games take years to catch up to CPUs.

The only time CPUs legitimately cost the majority of a gaming PC was in the days of software rendering. Once the Geforce 3 and then Radeon 9000 series came out, you legitimately spent $250 on a gaming GPU back when a self-assembled PC altogether would cost you just $750.

>>102053398
lol its funny as i cant wait for zen 5 retards to get sacked

>>102053616
Zen5 tards are the Zen2 tards, they got tenure because they made the Zen architecture sing.
the problem is with Zen5 they made the bandwidth bottleneck worse... all will be forgiven with Zen5X3D and they'll probably be high ups in AMD in 10-15 years despite the fuckup.

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So, you only play benchmarks on your pc? That's pretty pathetic.

>>102053637
zen2 was the buggiest in the lineup after zen1 too
i member the bug that caused zen2 epycs to crash after 1044 days of uptime
zen3 and zen4 are the goats so hopefully the same people are working on zen6

>>102053647
So you're a judgemental beta? You have nothing, not even benchmarks.

These CPUs all calculate like ass. Open source architectures are the only sane computing devices and you have to cope. Russia has to cope, USA has to cope. Cope.

>>102053661
You sound upset.

>>102053658
yeah pretty sure the Zen3 team are the same ones who fixed the Zen2 teams bugs and I think they are indeed the team doing Zen6

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do you think future oleds will have more preventative measures for burn in, or do I go with an picrel (27GS95QE) as soon as prices drop.
All I care about is a high refresh rate 1440p w-oled panel with good color accuracy and quality, preferably cheap.

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>>102053672
I am upset, now I am aware.

>>102052915
>Zen 6 and Rubin/RDNA 5
But we know nothing about those. Hell, we don't even know much about the upcoming RDNA 4 so how can anyone confidently say the generation after that will be worth the wait? I think RDNA 4 is the limit I'm willing to waitfag.

>>102053687
Why not one that doesn't radiate too much heat? Those are the ones which needs less power. It drys out your retinas more when they get more heat thrown at them fully frontal

>>102053687
XG27AQDMG
if you really want WOLED now, but it got crushed blacks, needs ICC profile to fix properly
QDs are better if you don't shine sunlight on it directly
new phosphorus OLEDs coming in 2-3 years

>>102053681
justwaitforzen6tm

>>102053539
Just saying it was possible
Even ignoring any type of HEDT CPU, it was still extremely difficult to not outspend a high-end GPU. You can really penny pitch to stay under the price of a GPU but why would you when you're gaming PC is also your actual PC you plan to use everyday.

>>102053720
nah, buy 7800X3D if you want to game, buy the 9950X if you need a cpu for work and pray that Arrow lake and the Zen5X3D cpus deliver.

>>102053373
Right now, a mid range PC is about $1500, not including peripherals
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/m2GJVn

>>102053419
>what the fuck do you call PCs under $800
Low end
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YCWFvj

>>102053474
>anything under that is an office machine
Technically you can go cheaper if you're not buying new. This Optiplex + a 2060 6 GB will play most games
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/xf6JwP

>>102053720
justwaitforbartlettlake

>>102053734
amd are fucking retarded just put 3dvcache on everything this stupid oversegmentation is what killed intel

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>>102053760
>bartlettlake
meh its only a 12pcore its probably gonna get walked by zen 6 10950x3d anyways

>>102053766
cowos is production constrained and the vcache requires more verification on top of those done for the base dies

>>102053471
>doesn't mean $600 is a good price
Pricing has gone insane since the first bitcoin rush all those years ago. Add zero competition and price collusion to the mix and you have today's graphics card market.

>>102053488
Current OP doesn't even recommend the 4090 for gaming, numbnuts.

>>102053687
4K 240 Hz OLED is the way to go

>>102053752
>2060 6 GB will play most games
can confirm my little laptop runs 90w 2060 most stuff fine 1080p 30-60fps
>>102053775
its just double dipping making people buy the same cpu twice

>>102053707
It doesn't make much of a difference to me since I'm not chronically online and really only plan to use my monitor for gayming, movies, and 3d work.
>>102053710
I don't really want to compromise on a WOLED panel. My room gets somewhat bright and I don't want to work with blackout blinds and dim lighting just so blacks don't turn into greys.
>phosphorus OLED
qrd on what makes it different?

>>102053471
i spent 300usd on an a770 back in may this year i consider it a midrange gpu, just dont buy nvidia shit, had zero problems with it until i found a cheap 79xtx for 800

>>102053788
>qrd on what makes it different?
brighter and last longer
>I don't really want to compromise on a WOLED panel.
well then go for Asus ROG Swift PG32UCDP or LG 32GS95UE
I like LG more because it got hardware calibration feature, you can inject ICC profile directly into monitor, no OS layer issues
on the other hand asus calibrated well enough out of box

>>102053780
>4K 240 Hz OLED is the way to go
I don't really need 4k mate, given that the only card that can run high fidelity games without compromises on it is a 4090. Anything else would just be kind of a waste of refresh rate.
Or maybe I'm just coping, idc, I'd rather wait until 4k oleds become more established.

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>>102053815
>high fidelity games without compromises on it is a 4090.
nah, I'm going 4k even with 7900XT. Movies going to look way better on 32" 4k.

>>102053811
>PG32UCDP or LG 32GS95UE
they use the same panel though, right?
>you can inject ICC profile directly into monitor
how? I've seen most people complain about how lackluster the color correction settings are on LG oleds, and how you can only pick between "Gamer 1" and "Gamer 2" presets. That'd be a huge selling point if I can adjust it myself.

>>102053059
sick logo on the hestsink

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>>102053837
wrong pic, wukong is a bad outlier, honestly how did they manage to make it run so bad game consists of only mountains and trees

>>102053752
>Technically you can go cheaper if you're not buying new.
true, you can also get a lot better for the same money if you're not buying new.
used Zen2 or Zen3 in a new or used trusted motherboard, new ram, new ssd, a good case and new psu in addition to a used 6800.

>>102053846
through their software, you either download calibrated ICC from RTNGS or TFTCentral or rent a colorimeter and make one yourself

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>>102053815
Always better to buy the highest resolution panel you can afford as long as you have a Geforce card
4K DLSS Quality looks better than 1440p DLAA, and they have a similar performance cost

>>102053850
>wrong pic
No, you posted the right pic. Wukong's performance will be typical of UE5 games

>>102053837
>66% upscaling
I'm assuming that's without RT? If that game even supports it.
Idk man, ~50fps on a 240hz panel doesn't sit right with me, not even considering future titles which I don't think will be any more optimized than the current ones. Movies do look better though.

>>102053878
>~50fps on a 240hz panel doesn't sit right with me
The monitor is one of the longest lasting parts of your system. It's ok to have a little room to grow into it, especially since you can lean heavily on DLSS

Are mobile 13th gen affected by shittyness like the desktop ones, like say the i5 1340P or the i7 1360P?

>>102053876
>Wukong's performance will be typical of UE5 games
nah, consoles aren't getting a new gen for anothr 5-6 years, it's going to be fine, cinematic settings are retarded high looks exactly the same, chinaman simple cranked internal resolutions for effects to 16k I bet

>>102053878
see >>102052934
VRR is a scam, high refresh has it's benefits for low fps
that game has PT which looks meh to me

>>102053876
>4K DLSS Quality looks better than 1440p DLAA
I don't doubt it, but again, it'd be a moot point because of the huge headroom in refresh rate.

>>102053850
please understand, Nvidia didn't expect to hit 4k 150fps with RT enabled so quickly so now they need to push developers to adopt path tracing to sell new gpus.

>>102053899
yes

>>102053908
the last thing they want is their gpus to hit 200hz+ at modern resolutions and being cpu bottlenecked 100% of the time making their higher tiers pointless to buy

>>102053924
at least they've got 8K to fall back on in a few years.

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>>102053905
>huge headroom in refresh rate
With frame gen, you're often doubling your FPS. Easy to hit 100+ FPS in the most demanding games, even at 4K

>>102053924
Frame Gen not only allows doubling of the your base FPS, but also it ignores CPU bottlenecks

>>102053898
I guess, but the maybe 2 or so years I'd be spending waiting for a return on my investment, I could just buy a lower resolution panel that fits my needs perfectly and look at 4k monitors when they've had more room to breathe in the market.

>>102053951
frame gen is a way to scam poorfags into buying lower tier cards

>>102053955
To me, the only reason to punt with a cheaper monitor is that you want some feature that's not out yet. For example, Nvidia Pulsar is only available on LCDs for now, but at some point in the future I can't imagine that it won't be available with OLED

>>102053968
well, you want 60 real fps for responsiveness, doubling with framegen just makes picture smoother-ish
framegenning under 50fps gives zero benefit because game feels bad to play

>>102053951
Frame gen always feels off to me. Maybe it's placebo, but it makes the image look "fake" especially during motion, not to mention the input lag. At least DLSS blurs the line between AI and regular rendering pretty well, but with FG I always notice it, no matter what.

>>102054008
yea, soap opera effect? not quite that maybe, but you can tell, game start to feel like you are watching youtube video of it, it's weird

>>102053924
>>102053908
why is Nvidia trying it's hardest to prevent another 1080ti tier card to emerge? It feels incredibly forced at this point, do they just genuinely hate consoomers?

>>102054032
why do you think their GPU margins are around 80%?

it is insulting to force me to install armory crate and run the service on startup to turn the rgb off on my gpu

i should be able to save it to the firmware once or have the bios control it ffs

>>102054021
pretty much. It's way too smooth. In a way that feels fake when you compare it to "real" high fps experiences.

>>102054032
they love consoomers but they love money more

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>>102054008
>not to mention the input lag
Generally, there's not much additional latency. It's just that latency doesn't improve to match the perceived framerate. But keep in mind that without Reflex, a lot of games have way more input lag than with Frame Gen. Reflex is always implemented with Frame Gen

>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PWfKWt
Are there any good case fan recommendations?

>>102052919
As long as you're on Quiet Power Mode the dgpu is disabled IIRC, or it seldom runs.

>>102053910
That's a bummer, saw a neat sale for a laptop with an i5 1340P.

>>102054302
I never understood why people build systems with small cases outside of niche uses, like the only one I can justify is if I travel a lot and need my PC to fit the airport luggage requirements.

7800x3d 1.05v @ 47x multiplier doable?

>>102054302
deepcool rf120

super cheap, high cfm, sound like a lawnmower and rattle like hell grinding bearings when they first start up, but once they stabilize it's all good

>>102054376
They cute.

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Got an older x470 system (2700X), should I just stick a 5800X3D in it and call it a day? The board (picrel) was kinda high end back in its day so it should probably handle it.

>>102054444
5700X3D

>>102054444 [witnessed]
Yeah pretty much. The other X3Ds are also worth considering depending on pricing.

>>102054444
Update BIOS before you slap it in

Why is there zero RTX 5090 news?

because there are no good games that need it

>>102054444
yes, upgrading from Zen+ absolutely makes sense

>>102054507
Recent news said it's been delayed to Q1 because of issues

>>102046807
>>Avoid iGPU-less CPUs
Why?

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Where do I get a cheap lga 1200 motherboard? I got a 10700K and 48GB DDR4 for $50 and I need something to plug them into

>>102054536
iGPU is for debug when your fat GPU cracks and dies on you

>>102054376
I like small systems because it just saves space in my apartment and doesn't stand out as much.

>>102054536
Because op thinks you're a chump and should pay $30-50 more for features you don't need

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This is driving me crazy, I really need to make a decision and just actually decide on a monitor. Just keep running myself in circles about which one to get and settle on one only to change my mind later. Main two are currently going between wait for PG27AQDP, get a 32GS95UE even though my graphics card can probably not handle it well also could just get the much cheaper 27GS95QE. Even still considering further cheaping out, getting a Q27G3XMN and plan to get an oled next year or something. But the more I think about it the more twisted around in circles I get.

>>102054546
>he doesn't have a old 750ti lying around
poor

wait intel designed that? that explains the terrible quality of it

Is there any reason I don't see people using acer's amd gpu's? Are the fucked up in any way or is it just not many people uploading builds with them on pcp.

>>102054552
What kind of shitbox do you live in that a case takes up too much space? What about the desk and monitor?

>>102054606
i sleep on the floor to have enough room for a desk + pc, some people arent dedicated i guess

>>102054540
flea bay, leddit , or just search

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>>102054569
i luv my ewaste Radeon 6970 HD Reference Edition with the Sapphire Girl on the card

>>102046807
Man, I need new glasses. I thought that pic was some weird new modular server concept

>>102054604
acer is fairly new to making gpus, i think they started like 2 or 3 yrs ago? and they have few models available.

>>102046807
>1080p: RTX 3060 12 GB
why wouldn't i go for a 40 series card? whats so good about the 3060?

>>102054604
I think most people just go sapphire/powercolor or whatever is cheapest

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>>102054647
heres mine
miss gpufuus

>>102054671
just go for what is cheap because your obviously poor

>>102054647
Sometimes I like to plug in my gtx480 in the winter and turn off the heat for old times sake

>>102054671
Vram is king for AI

If you're not using AI, you're cutting off functional use case of building a PC. Ofcourse the other use of PC building is gaming but even that will make use of AI

>>102054606
For me its the difference of keeping my current pc on top of a box next to my desk vs being able to fit it on my desk amongst other of my work/station materials.

>>102051970
NTA but can you redpill me on cheap and good Aliexpress RAM? DDR4, DDR5 or both.

And what's up with the chink mobo brands? Do I actually buy them or go for the usual ones like ASUS and MSI?

>>102054604
Just check out sapphire's nitro or powercolor's red devil and then question why you need anything else

>>102054604
>acer
Walmart brand

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>>102054693
>>102054647
lamo even

>>102054940
why would i buy a Asuka 4090, my Radeon 6970 HD will last until
>the Rei 5090 comes out

is there a noticeable noise/cooling benefit to deshrouding a dual fan gpu and putting two slim 90mm noctua fans on the heatsink compared to the stock fans?

>deshrouding
>noctua
not even gonna quote

>>102049422
she looks like she needs something more than a laptop. I wouldnt mind giving it to her

>>102054940
>worst girl
Yeah makes sense it would be nvidia

>>102053010
RDNA 5 will be reintroducing a much more refined chiplet arch without (hopefully) all the buggyness that's plagued RDNA 3 and they've had a long time and plenty of developments on the fab side to get everything figured out, should feature a high end that outperforms a 5090
>>102053706
RDNA 4 will be announced very soon and top N48 is targeting 4080 performance below $600 to seal off midrange for at least a few months, top end RDNA 5 is pushing for at least 2x that performance by reintroducing chiplet arch with a very advanced node

>>102055194
while this is very cool... the 5090 will be a year old when the rdna 5 comes out
> what if AMD thought to be better than Nvida... BEFORE they released their cards

>>102055215
What's the point nobody buys them anyway

>>102055105
Kek

>>102055215
>the 5090 will be a year old
That doesn't matter unless nvidia wants to go full retard and introduce a generation every year

is getting a 4k monitor worth it? is playing a game at 1080p or 1440p on one going to look like ass? not sure how that works

>>102055377
no even a high end gpu 79xtx 4090 will struggle with that with rt/vr and or whatever bs

>>102055105
>no girl on AMD cards
yeah, makes sense that AMD would cater to hoeless nerds.

>>102055377
Yes.

>>102055377
>1080p
will look fine because 4k is easily divisible by that resolution
>1440p
will look kinda ass
Just buy 1440p and avoid the headaches.

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>>102055465
you can delete this now

>>102055465
Holy where can I buy this

>>102055614
https://yestonstore.com/products/yeston-sakura-radeon-rx-7800-xt-16g-gddr6-256bit-desktop-computer-graphics-card

>>102047185
get a lenovo g24-20 24" and a North Bayou H80 monitor arm and be done with it.

>>102047416
2x32.
You're likely to run into issues trying 4 sticks of DDR5 at that speed.
You can also run into issues like I had on my old PC where I bought a 2nd set of identical sticks, except they weren't actually identical, G.Skill had swapped the actual memory chips they were using and it made it completely impossible to run together.

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Is there any such thing as a wifi webcam that is powered by a regular power point (or a USB-C wall charger)?

>>102055733
ewaste smartphone

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>>102046807
Realistically how many fans does a PC need to function right? I work at a thrift store and collect pieces

I have a deep cool wave v2 case which looks very bare bones. Doesn't even come with fans (pic related). It does have a 120mm slot in the front bottom and a 120mm slot in the rear.

The PSU is mounted at the top too. I do have access to fans. From brands such bit Fenix and a bunch of fans from that NZXT brand (raided a messed up case)

Are those enough for the following build?
i5 4590 (stock cooler)
Asus GTX 970

>>102055831
2 intake 1 exhaust

>>102055831
depends what it does

an htpc can be entirely passively cooled and have no problems

My 7800xt amd card is sometimes crashing, idk if it's hardware or software, it just freezes, amd adrenaline crashes and reboots, also resets any tuning settings

Is my card just bad or is this some software bullshit or what's going on. Does anyone else experience this?

I recently upgraded psu aswell for atx3.0 ready one. 850w happened before this aswell, it died and I replaced it but it seems to still happen

>>102055985
Try limiting the max clock speed it can go above in adrenaline.

>>102055985
download the latest drivers and DDU, turn off the internet, use DDU to wipe all drivers, install the latest drivers, turn on the internet.

>>102056032
>>102056032
>>102056032

>>102055831
Those specs you probably only need one in the rear exhausting (plus whatever fans are on the CPU cooler) but it would be better with a 2nd in the front intaking. If you can figure out what types you have, the fastest RPM capable PWM fan should go in the front and control it through bios. 800 to 1200 RPM below 40c, then ramp it up until it's at max speed above 80c.

>>102055974
I guess it's going to be used for games and browsing. Im not sure if I'm going to keep it as a shared open area PC or give it to my 8 year old nephew

>>102056040
Lol it looks like it doesn't even have 2 fan spaces in the front. Just the one on the front bottom. I also just noticed that the rear fan is a lot smaller. Not sure if I even have a fan for it. It does have a door panel fannslot but I'm not quite sure if it would fit once the GPU is installed.