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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases (e.g. 4K editing, high FPS gaming)
State budget and COUNTRY or you will not be helped

>12VHPWR
DO NOT USE ANGLED 12VHPWR ADAPTERS
Fully seat a 12VHPWR connector in its socket, otherwise the connection can melt.
https://youtu.be/ig2px7ofKhQ?t=1345

>Intel Raptor Lake / RPL Refresh
Instability reported with 13th and 14th gen, i5 K SKUs and above (incl non-K). Update BIOS and apply Intel Baseline settings. Avoid purchases.

>CPUS
HTPC(4K60)/Web Browsing: i3 12100
Gaming: R5 7600; budget: R5 5600; eXtreme: R7 7800X3D
Multicore: R9 7950X; budget: i5 13500
>Avoid iGPU-less CPUs
>Existing AM4 board with an old chip? Consider a Zen 3 CPU

>GRAPHICS CARDS
1080p: RTX 3060 12 GB; budget: RX 6600; ultra budget: used RTX 2060 Super
1440p: RTX 4070 Super; budget: RX 7700 XT
2160p: RTX 4080 Super (at MSRP); budget: RTX 4070 Ti Super
Amateur production: RTX 3060 12GB, RTX 4060 Ti 16GB, used RTX 3090, RTX 4090

>RAM
DDR4: Zen3/AM4 - 2x 16GB 3600 MT/s CL18; for locked "non-K" 12th/13th/LGA1700 - 2x 16GB 3200 MT/s CL16
DDR5: Zen4/AM5 - 2x 16GB 6000 MT/s CL30; for unlocked "K" 13th/14th/LGA1700 - 2x 16GB 6400MT/s CL32

>COOLERS
Standout: Peerless Assassin 120 (or variant)
https://linustechtips.com/topic/891730-cpu-cooler-performance-tier-list/

>PSUS
A new PSU should be ATX 3.0 compliant
Aim for 50-75% PSU utilization at full system load
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>SSDS
WD SN850X 2TB
Avoid: outdated Samsung 970 Evo Plus, cheapest NVMe SSDs
https://ssd.borecraft.com/

>MOTHERBOARDS
Good power delivery is required for Intel CPUs like the i5 13600K and above
Don't pair a K CPU with a B mobo chipset

>GAMING MONITORS
Dell G2724D, AOC Q27G3XMN, Alienware AW3225QF
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/dP3v4D

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>>102061090
Anyone playing this with an AMD gpu have any advice?
Can't turn super resolution off, and no matter if I choose FSR / TSR / XeSS there's noticeable artifacting around clouds / hair.
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The new generation nvidya will receive a rebranding (not 5090, but it will be different somewhat), it seems like only "5060s" will remain with its old name, it seems like it will be "new 1660s" (my opinion), it will be like the last RTX, and it will be released much later, it will be very somewhat upgraded 4060s. After the release of the new top-end and pre-top-end generation, the old RTX vydya will be discontinued immediately.

New cards will be ~ 100-200 bucks more expensive in each segment, the conditional "5080" will cost 1300 bucks approximately (the release price of 4080 was 1200), "5090" turns out to be 1800 bucks approximately. "5070" will be later as usual.

The main leitmotif of the release and rebranding is AI technology, the new name will be like AIGP, or something like that (I dont know). Nvidia is already finalizing the API for its RTX/scaling textures and other shit, such as NPC AI (dont know anything in details), some kind of nyPhysx.

All this shit will be a "boxed solution", all-in-one product for gaydev. A very important solution will be the AI anti-cheat in cards, a hardware anti-cheat, without which you will not be allowed to play some games/modes (maybe, I dont know much).


No more information, and I don't really know anything else. No information about anti-cheat and how it will implemented (or will it be at all) be in your favorite dota 2
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>Patherlake already running on 18A node
thank you intel. pretty much confirmed 20A is working and producing arrowlake
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>>102061335
China bad.This game is not inclusive enough.
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>>102061427
it would be sooooooooo funny if amd throws away the goodwill they have with pc builders
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>>102061437
>18A is faster than N2
>but amd will only use N3 for 2026 zen6
amdover. amd will be years behind intel now. its 2006 all over again
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>>102061510
> its 2006 all over again
???
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>>102061335
Super resolution at 100% means the game is effectively just using FSR (or xess or dlss) as an AA method, it isn't rendering at a lower resolution and upscaling.

>Setting it to 100% tanks my framerate
That is because you are getting the full resolution you have the game set to (which I deduce is 1440p from the screenshot size).

>no matter if I choose FSR / TSR / XeSS there's noticeable artifacting around clouds / hair
I've not played the game so I can't say for certain but that could just be your usual temporal shenanigans. The lower the (base) framerate and target resolution the worse it gets I would wager.
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>>102061546
Intel will be bribing their way to victory. Anon was rusing you.
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>>102061571
giving credit to customers who purchase large volumes of your products isn't illegal. if it was 99% of manufacturing companies would be banned in the usa. the intel/dell lawsuit has been criticized by many legal scholars
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>>102061571
I didn't really understand, I was 12 years old at the time and somehow I didn't follow this.
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>>102061510
>1959: planar
>2011: FinFET
>2024: RibbonFET
>Future: CFET
while amd is stuck on 2011 tech (FinFET), Intel is now already working on CFET for their 14A node.

>>102061546
believe it or not, there's a time when amd actually beats intel. but then intel came out of no where with their new "core" series cpu and ever since then intel just keeps winning until zen 3
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>"Leak"
>Mentions prices instead of saying they can change the prices any minute
yeah fake and gay
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>>102061546
Intel Core 2 released and obsoleted everything
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>>102061510
>its 2006 all over again
amdisaster
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>>102061546
intels core 2 duo and core 2 quad cpus obliterated amd and their athlon processors until ryzen lol
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Can anyone tell me if the Asrock X670E Steel Legend (AM5) mobo has fan smoothing / hysteresis settings in its BIOS? I.e. the setting that lets you set a delay for when the fans turn on, so they don't overreact to brief temperature spikes and spin up to 100% every time you load the processor for 0.2 seconds. I understand Asrock calls this feature fan step up / step down, but there's no clear information which boards have it. It's not mentioned in the x670 BIOS manual on their website which is what worries me. But I found a video of the X670E Taichi BIOS which does have it, and yet also many people claiming that they can't find these settings of their various Asrock boards.

In any case could you recommend me a good AM5 board that does have this feature? It will be a Linux system so I can't use software like Fancontrol, it needs to be adjustable in the BIOS.
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>>102061897
just get the taichi
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>>102061177
>Web Browsing: i3 12100
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You will spend $700 on a midrange card, this is the new normal
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>>102061897
asus boards have it
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>>102061711
It seems you are gay
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>>102061913
> You will spend $700 on a midrange card, this is the new normal
I know
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3 questions
I have this mobo, MSI MAG B660M MORTAR
I says it have 3 m.2
question one
This two over the pic are the exact same and does not matter which one I use for the m.2, right?
Question 2, where fuck is the third one?
Question 3, what is the TBW for a 840 EVO 500GB?
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>>102059103
> That is some bold assumptions of use case.
That's realistic assumption. It yor mom allow you PC for one hour a day, whatever.

That's why buying OLED is just burning your monitor in 2 years. That's even worse than buying first generations of SSDs, they were projected to last at least 5 and I haven't seen any worn out one.
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>>102061911
>he doesn't build a fourth pc specifically for browsing the web
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>>102061897
> Asrock X670E Steel Legend
Realistically speaking, why do you need it? 7800 is okay on boards twice as cheap.
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>>102061971
>That's why buying OLED is just burning your monitor in 2 years. That's even worse than buying first generations of SSDs, they were projected to last at least 5 and I haven't seen any worn out one.
what? my 840 evo is 12 years old
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>>102061951
Why you do you think you have three? The website for that board shows it as two. Did you confuse the PCIE graphics card slot for an exra M.2 slot?
Those two aren't the same either, although similar.
M2_1 (the one directly underneath the CPU) is the one run through the CPU and it can only do NVME drives. So use that one for your OS drive.
M2_2 (the one at the bottom) is the chipset slot, can run NVME drives AND older style SATA drives (eg the old WD Blue M.2 Sata drives). Using this one also blocks the 8th SATA port.
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>>102062020
>>102061951
I found a reviewer who used the wear indicator in SMART (because Samsung didn't release a TBW for these drives for some reason) and they estimated it to be about 200tb TBW and also talked about other users who got over 400tb written on an 120gb model before it died. I'd pencil it down for "consider replacing after 200tb written".
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>>102061951
>what is the TBW for a 840 EVO 500GB?
who knows, I got 250gb one and it still works 12 years later, last time I checked like 5 years ago, it was around 1.2PB, use samsung magician for health status
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>>102061555
Thanks, I played around with the settings in game and in the amd control panel and it looks way better now. I'm not sure what exactly is going on but even with frame gen off and Super sampling at 100 I couldn't get rid of the artifacting and sharpening issues around hair, but at least at 70 it's not so immediately noticeable.
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>>102061421
If the PTX 5070 = RTX 4090 in RT/PT (no matter how it gets there, all I care about is the resulting image quality), I'm fine with it costing $700. That's less than half the price of the 4090. PT is the limiting factor; in other words, RT perf needs to be improved relative to raster perf to have a balanced card
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>>102062115
> sharpening issues
You can't get rid of them - the game is over sharpened inherently.
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>>102062150
>If the PTX 5070 = RTX 4090
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>>102062115
why does it run so bad? game consists of mountains and trees. nothing more.
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>>102061993
> what? my 840 evo is 12 years old
That's what I told. 840 is not first gen, but problem with SSD is non-existent now. But OLED is as old and still having issues even on consumer devices.
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>>102061177
Is there anything from EK worth buying before they implode?
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>>102062225
their direct die LGA 1700 AIO if you want to fuck about with that.
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>>102062150
> If the PTX 5070 = RTX 4090 in RT/PT
Very funny. I think 5080 will be 5-6% more efficient than 4080.
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>>102062214
Frame rate isn't the issue, it's the visual effects. I have a 7800x3d and 7800xt and no matter what I do there's artifacting around characters in motion and particle effects.
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>>102062150
>If the PTX 5070 = RTX 4090 in RT/PT
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>>102062220
>But OLED is as old and still having issues even on consumer devices.
20-25k hours is pretty good I think. nobody should hold to a monitor for more than 5 years.
I have 9 year old one and only because nothing is much better than it.
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>>102062150
lol
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>>102062254
>>102062211
new gen 70 being roughly the same performance as the last gen flagship happened every time except for the 2 dogshit post-crypto generations retards
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>>102062241
likely mediocre TAA implementation
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>>102062020
>Why you do you think you have three?
amazon said it have 2 M.2 gen4 x4 64gb and one m.2 gen4 x2

So I want the O.S one over the 01 thing, alright, I bot a SN850X for it

>>102062077
I have it on 74 so gonna assume it is fine.

What about the SN850X?
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PTX sounds gay as hell
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PPX
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>>102062314
DXR din't stick because people are to easily influenced by marketing
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>>102062211
>>102062239
>>102062254
>>102062266
I'm not saying that I think the 5070 will be equivalent to the 4090 in PT: I'm saying that's the standard it needs to meet if it's going to be $700.
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bros why would they build faster gpus when they can just lock better upscaling to newer shit
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>>102062367
> I'm saying that's the standard it needs to meet if it's going to be $700.
No. Nvudya is monopoly in top tier cards now. AMD is abandoning even competition with 5090 and 5080
5080 and 5090 vill cost 1300 and 1800 and you vill be happy.
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>>102062367
>I'm saying that's the standard it needs to meet if it's going to be $700.
You are delusional if you think the 5070 will be anything more than a slight refresh unless Jesus himself descends and tells them to stop. Enjoy your 12GB ram 5070
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>>102062367
wasn't the 7000 series amd's best selling gpus ever?
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>>102062271
and which gens has nvidia made money hand over fist on hmmm?
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>>102062372
> bros why would they build faster gpus when they can just lock better upscaling to newer shit
If this >>102061421 true, it's even worse. You will be locked out of new games.
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>>102062414
my bad meant for >>102062402
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>>102062408
> Enjoy your 12GB ram 5070
8
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>>102062414
> wasn't the 7000 series amd's best selling gpus ever?
Not even close. Nvidia is monopoly in graphics now. Especially in top tier gaming.
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The boomer's choice
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>>102062474
>>102062414
>no sources
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>>102062414
Would really doubt that considering how low their market share is now even if the GPU market has grown, don't know about that though. Back in the day they had generations that were almost 50-50 against Nvidia but that clearly isn't ever going to happen again.
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>>102062425
rtx 2000 was a huge flop lol
Even this gen they ended up having to release 'super' just like 2000 series and cutting prices for the 4080 and 4060ti
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>>102062541
Looks good, would buy instead of this shit.
Why I have to buy case with this window gid damn. There's no options.

> Buuuut fractal
Go bo buy this $300 shit yourself.
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currently looking to buy a laptop for my wife and it's so aids. At least with regular pc parts I can tell if something is a good deal or not. Laptops are just fucked
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>>102061510
>tfw bought amd...
amd will either have to buy their chiplets from intel fabs or continue the business with chink tscm and just lower prices to rock bottom. If they fab at intel they might be ok but for the chinks it's over because apple and nvidia will all switch to intel.
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>>102062688
> for my wife
There's website for you, first letter R
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> will
> will
> will
I love how incels cope with future.
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>>102062190
>the game is over sharpened inherently
>You can't get rid of [it]
You can using the Universal Unreal Unlocker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlkgVAWqcKY&t=135s

>>102062414
>wasn't the 7000 series amd's best selling gpus ever?
No, some of their worst selling
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>>102062414
>>102062890
Why do you motherfuckers blatantly lie about shit we can disprove with one google search? This is directed at the first anon.
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>>102061815
I was around for the Conroe Launch articles. It's sad that there are posters ITT that have never any may never in the future experience such a leap:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/2045/12
Both AMD AND Intel actually had to firesale all their prices of their then-current gen CPUs at launch because of how good it was with performance and power efficiency that dwarfed chips running 400-500 mhz faster. To put the accompanying chart in perspective, AMD's $1,000 flagship the FX-62 that was launched at the end of May 2006 was getting washed so badly by the lowest end Conroe part, the E6600 @ ~$316 when it launched literally one month later that they didn't try to salvage it price-wise and just stopped production of the chip altogether.
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I have a B450 Tomahawk Max and was looking to upgrade my GPU to a 4070 Ti Super.

The Mobo says it supports up to PCIe 3.0 while the 4070 is PCIe 4.0. Does this mean I won't be able to draw out the full power of the GPU?
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whats the best low profile single slot gpu with a dual link DVI port
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>>102061335
It’s the issue with pretty much any upscaling/temporal technology, even running it at native resolution or using TAA will still destroy image quality and create ghosting
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>>102063059
It doesn't matter for the following reasons
>the 4070ti super has x16 pcie lane connection
>it doesn't saturate pcie 3 x16 as even a 4090 doesn't ( https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-pci-express-performance-scaling-with-core-i9-13900k/ )
>just ensure whatever pcie slot you are plugging it into is running x16
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>>102063119
Consumer grade or are you also going to be looking at workstation cards?
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>>102061177
>gpus are longer than the motherboard anyways
>with a slit below the 1st pcie slot almost half of the warm air from the gpu leaves the case
>people are buying matx over atx because of the lower price anyways
When are we going to abandon mATX for YTX?
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>>102063194
Also the primary m.2 isn't sanwhiched between the two hottest parts of the PC.
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>>102063137
Thanks for the info anon. Was worried about bottlenecking my GPU.
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>>102063135
>or using TAA will still destroy image quality
Based pixel enjoyer
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>>102063247
>1080p
Based 4070 enjoyer
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>>102063194
ATX in general needs to die. It is a 40 year old standard that was never designed with current computing trends in mind. The server space has adapted much better to the increase power density (and ease of user service) whereas all that momentum in the consumer space combined with prebuilts, office machines and the like being the real volume movers (most of which are intentionally being conservative on power) prop up what is a flawed spec.
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>>102061434
>Almost every character there is furry
>The player character is a literal monkey
Beats even some hardcore wokeslop, I'd say.
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>13600kf + 4070 for $2400 = actually good
this is the new standard for mid range
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>>102063456
>pre-built tax
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>>102063471
>its ok for prebuilt to mark up the price by 60%
go home judas nexus
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>>102063509
That is the cost of being unable to read a manual yes.
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The 32GS95UE is real tempting for $900 but is that a bad idea if I have a 7800XT and do not plan of upgrading anytime soon? Would be a lot better for media but not sure I want to take the hit in game performance over 1440p
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>>102063456
>intel
no thanks
>nvidia
no thanks
>ITX tax
no thanks
>prebuilt tax
no thanks.
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>>102063135
>that webm
holy shit lol
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>>102063281
THAT'S 1080p!? God damn, you're a walking advertisement for DLSS
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>>102063542
>woled
I'm more of a fan of the QD oled models due to the increase colour volume they offer. That said it once again depends on what games you play and your tolerance for reduced settings and/or upscaling. 4k is pretty sweet not gonna lie and a 7800xt can always fallback to hyper-rx if needed but that is a tradeoff in of itself.
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>>102063593
>Temporal garbage
Kek
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>nvidia rasterization perf sucks
>they cope with upscaling
lol
lmao even
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>>102063542
>32GS95UE
Unless you want to use the 1080p@480Hz mode (not a bad idea with the 7800 XT DESU) or like matte finishes, the MSI MPG 321URX QD-OLED would be the better buy @ $950:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1808682-REG/msi_mpg_321urx_qd_oled_32_uhd_oled_16_9.html

Better viewing angles, panel uniformity, OoB Color Accuracy, Color Gamut & Volume (important for animu), and clarity.
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/compare/lg-32gs95ue-b-vs-msi-mpg-321urx-qd-oled/49551/47132?usage=4112&threshold=0.10
WOLED needs to be significantly cheaper than QD-OLED for the performance shortcomings it has.

>is that a bad idea if I have a 7800XT
As far as driving 4K with the 7800 XT it'll work okay as long as you aren't running AAA titles with high settings. I wouldn't let a GPU handicap my choice of display as you can carry it over between upgrades and it'll make the experience outside of games much more enjoyable regardless.
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is a 16gb HDD worth it for single player games where i dont much care for loading times? and maybe partition some of it to have a raid for media storage? yeah i know ssds are faster and i have a few of those. id keep multiplayer games on those and all the big cracked and other single player games on there
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>>102063798
>16gb HDD
woah anon are you planing to store TWO whole mp3s or something
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reminder that you have absolutely no reason to be using wifi on a desktop as opposed to ethernet
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desu the dell 32" 4k oled is generally king as in MOST places (not all) it is significantly cheaper than the other options and you aren't going to truly notice the difference in displays using that panel.

>>102063829
hey fuck you anon - that is the entire DOS vidya library you are badmouthing.
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>>102063682
How's your Radeon card keeping up with Native? I'm always amused by your struggles
>can't run native even if it were available
>which it isn't
Pic related isn't even max settings
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>>102063798
>16gb
I'm not even going to pay mind that you're actually considering on buying that but where on earth is someone selling that new? The lowest I can find is 72gb for $12.

16gb is the size games from 2 generations ago.
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>4090 can barely squeak out 60 fps at 4K
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>>102063931
And that's with DLSS, but at least it has DLSS to save it. All the Radeon cards are forced to use FSR. The muh VRAM / muh brute force retards are getting their comeuppance, like they have every gen since RTX 20
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Eternal reminder to not engage the local nvidia bot.
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What’s the minimum CPU/GPU that’ll outperform the PS5?
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>>102062271
LOL see you when it's 10% generation gain. In case you didn't notice those modern cards are faster only because they are larger and eat more power. This tech is hitting physical limits.
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>>102064108
Used 2070 Super + R5 5600
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>>102063894
you i meant 16tb. looking at this right now, theres also the ironwolf and seahawk. i have no clue how different they are, spec-wise they seem the same
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>>102064108
A 6700 non-XT is equivalent to the ps5's gpu, the ps5 cpu is roughly on par with a 3700x so anything above those is likely to outperform, though you have to factor in the usual console target, low level api advantage vs lmao pc.
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>>102064127
>2070 Super
Wow, that's kinda sad.
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>>102064133
Depends on how much you plan to write to it regularly. That said i'm of the opinion (rightly or wrongly) anything over 4tb should be mirrored as that is territory of too much data to lose in the rare chance of a drive failure.
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>>102064163
it was only a year old at the time of the ps5's release
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>>102064175
i mean id hold my photography there that id probably back up to cloud, all the other stuff would probably be games or whatever the fuck that i can always redownload
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>>102064207
Them sure - you have redundancy so overall drive reliability is not going to be a massive concern. Backblaze's stats that get posted a lot are consumer drives put through enterprise workloads and even then reliability is pretty good overall.
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>>102063880
Im fine, didn’t try this one yet, how’s your 4070 at 1080p native in this game?
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>>102064133
Do you mean Skyhawk? I probably wouldn't want to use Surveillance HDDs to put video games on.

I don't really see any difference between Ironwolf or Exos so I guess get whichever one is cheaper
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>>102064311
yeah i meant skyhawk, the pic on the minature was low quality lol. but exactly means Surveillance HDDs?
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>>102064305
delete this
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>>102064305
Fortunately I'm not obsessed with native
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>it's two GPTs talking to eachother again
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>>102064328
Its designed to be used by cameras to store security videos e.g., running 24/7. And the Skyhawk series helps by upscaling the video quality a little bit with AI
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>>102064398
beep boop FUCK AMD beep boop
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Waiting for the RTX 5070…
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>>102064477
>12GB
>230W
>5% boost over 4070S
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>>102064415
ah ok, so the exos should be fine for storage? also is it more reliable than ie the ironwolf? enterprise one should be i guess. im only looking at seagate since they have the most capacity in my price range
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>>102064367
Yeah, but you didn’t answer the question
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>>102064398
You can’t run AI on AyMDead
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>>102064500
I'd go with the Exos. The MTBF (Mean Time between Failure) is way higher than the Ironwolf
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>>102064500
Exos is fine for storage. A general rule is to buy two drives from different manufacturers or buy the same drives on different dates or stores so they are from different manufacturing batches so if that batch is faulty it won't affect your backup copy with the same fault.

I personally just buy multiple used enterprise hard drives since the price savings are too much to pass up. HGST, WD Ultrastars that stuff. Had a 4TB die on me once (backed up of course) but ever since I moved to 10/12TB models they've been solid, and of course all have a cold storage backup just in case. I mean it's 12TB for like $80, 24TB for $160. I can't say no to that. New HDDs prices are just ridiculous imo.
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Would a 3060 pair well with a 4790K? I don't want to buy a new CPU, MOBO, RAM and do a whole upgrade.
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>>102064559
i kno rite
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>>102064575
>>102064597
so im just kinda reading more about it, and would a smaller disk but not enterprise be a better pick? there's a lot of conflicting opinions about performance, that theyre slower since stacked bits and all that. and while i dont care about load times in games like 30 seconds or even a minute but i aint gonna wait more than that for a game to load. also that they degrade faster since theyre not meant to be powered up and down all the time
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>>102064616
If you refuse to budge on the cpu sure - but that is a decade old part and unless you are keeping it hot clocked (as in, 4.4ghz or better) it is going to be fairly slow compared to current parts.
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>>102064664
Modern Windows is absolute slowass garbage on HDDs. Whatever you are doing only use a HDD for storage, install any game no matter how old onto an SSD.
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>>102064654
>Juggernaut XL v10
Who?
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>>102064710
The chad of a.i generation.
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>>102064698
yeah i have the system on ssd and games where i want performance on ssd. hdd would be for long term storage and games that i rarely play. the issue with ssd is that they have low capacity and the ones in my price range are some fucking fanxiang 4tb. with a 16tb hdd id be done for years. also i have a pretty small case and cant really throw new ssds into it all the time
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>>102064504
Looks pretty damn good. I don't need native (and almost never run it if DLSS available) because I didn't waste my money on Radeon. Native is dead, and has been since approximately the launch of DLSS2

The funny thing is that I didn't buy the card with 'muh native' in mind, so it performs as expected. Imagine buying a 7900 XTX thinking you can run native in new games and not last gen PS4 games like >>102064305
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>>102064737
Impossibru…
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>>102064795
The evidence is clear.
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>>102064616
you're probably better off with a radeon GPU because of Nvidia overhead
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>>102064757
>all of this rambling
Uhh…
Can you answer the question?
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>>102064831
Today opposite day?

>>102064845
>Can you answer the question?
I did, can you read? Enjoy FSR
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>>102064859
Where’s the information about 4070 at 1080p native in the monkey game?
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>>102063594
>>102063712
Makes sense, the 321URX is only slightly more and probably the better buy but QD fringing really bothered me when I tried one and I know the 4k ones are supposed to be a lot better but I kinda want to try the new woled subpixel layout so I am going between get the 32GS95UE now for $900ish or wait for the PG27AQDP to come out and get that.
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>>102062150
the way Nvidia has been going, the PTX5080 will probably cost $1400 and just barely hits 4090 tier.
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>>102062954

It was incredibly good, especially since some of the cheapest ones like the E4300 could be overclocked massively, >50% was very common. It's probably why intel went to locked processors soon after
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>>102065092
the way nvidia has been going was cutting the 4080 to $1000 so it would be $800 actually
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>>102065195
there's no RDNA4 high end, they're uncontested in the 80 and 90 series.
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>>102064923
Your cherrypicks are irrelevant, here are the averages >>102064757
Just keep cherrypicking and I'll keep reminding you of how much money you wasted. Can you believe he wasted nearly $1000 on Radeon and it can't even run native in new games, which is what he bought it for

I wish I could say I'm surprised, but a fool and his money are soon parted
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>2022-07-23
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>>102064757
>nvidia shill still lying, scamming, posting terrible graphs and fake pictures zoomed in 100x from random google translated websites

Whats really funny is he will never admit that DLSS/DLAA/Frame gen are dogshit image quality with ghosting and artifacts until the day he finally kills himself.
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should I get the 7900 GRE or wait for the 8000 series?
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>>102065288
>it doesn't agree with my worldview so it's FAAAAAAKEEEE
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>>102065244
And it still loses to TAA in the next frame, KEK
But where’s the answer? Huh
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>>102065332
Are SATA SSDs a good choice if you don't have any M.2 slots? Or just go with HDDs?
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>>102065383
>>102065332
Didn't mean to reply
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>>102065298
I always believed rdna4 will come this year and amd has been silent only for scummily sell their old stock to clueless poorfags
why should they wait nvidia? to get btfo again?
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>>102061177
>1440p: RTX 4070 Super; budget: RX 7700 XT
>1440p
>7700
take that shit out of here
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>>102065426
yeah thats what I thought, like didnt the last op have 7900 GRE there KEK
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>>102065332
>performance
Pretty good for a 1080p input, considering how high the performance is, and the rendering features that DLSS allows (at good image quality)
Also keep in mind that the current DLSS version is 3.7

>repeating yourself ad nauseam
So you're the anon I've been shitting on for years, huh? Not much has changed
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Hi.
Finished building my PC and decided to run the free 3d mark bench. I assume this all good?!
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>>102061177
I've had this for a week now and I love it. Just waiting for the 8gb ram to arrive so I can upgrade the memory.
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>>102065426
Loosing to TAA is very bad, but I guess it’s ok for you to like poor image quality
So, any info about your gpu?
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>>102065638
>>102065553
Oops
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The price of the 5800X3D is currently $350 keeps rising. But why is this happening?
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>>102065638
>Loosing to TAA is very bad
>by a few pixels
At a quarter of the resolution and way, way better performance? On a generation old version of DLSS? Pretty damn good
Let me show you what losing means
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>>102063157
consumer is fine, definitely looking under like $180, with strong preference for under $100.

just have a SFF Optiplex temporarily until I stop being poor. Have a nice-to-me korean 1440p 96Hz VA monitor id like to use
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>>102065609
what are you doing with that thing anon? is that your main pc or like a side-project server of some sort?
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>>102065820
You have a very niche requirements - I would start with 3050 models and see what shakes out from that.
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>>102065837
Main PC. I have a gaming PC that I shelved when I realized I haven't played and enjoyed a game in like 8 months. I just watch pirated movies, and do spreadsheets for work.
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>>102065808
TAA is way worse than the native res, so yeah, it’s extremely bad if it can’t beat it
And there’s barely any improvement in DLSS, we can even see it degrading over time >>102063135
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>>102065556
its all good
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>>102065970
>TAA is way worse than the native res
One of my favorite of your delusions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG8w9Yg5B3g&t=1046s
I enjoy that modern games force (You) to use TAA, TSR, or the FSR that you wasted $1000 on
No more (You)s, troll
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Where I'm from its $1000 for a 4070 super and $650 for a 7800xt
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I want to build an anti-PC gamer

I need
>a processor that is totally useless for gaming
>a graphics card that is useless for gaming
>an amount of RAM totally useless for gaming
>OS that is unable to run Steam
>an anti-gamer keyboar
>Anti-gamer mouse
>an anti-gamer case/tower
>a monitor that is useless for gaming
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>>102066418
4070 super is more comparable to the 7900 gre
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>>102066470
Only if you gimp the Geforce card (no RT or DLSS)
Otherwise the 4070 Super is more comparable to the 7900 XTX
Pic related isn't even using DLSS
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>>102066455
just buy a laptop
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>>102066470
The gre is around $810 and the regular 4070 is $830. Canadian dollars
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>>102066499
Which laptop model is the most ideal for me who hates Steam, hates Gabe Newell and wants an anti-gaming laptop?
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>>102066496
I only see this as proof that amd gpus are overpriced
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>>102066526
mac
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>>102066496
Only interested in pure ras. Shiny ceramic floors are stupid and no reason to run upscaling when I can get above 100 frames native.
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I have a compaq presario sr1210nx i found in the street.
it has 2 free pci slots. what graphics card do i slap in it.
1gig of ram, cpu is incel celeron 2.66ghz

can i play doom 3
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>>102066533
Massively overpriced
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>>102066526
chromebook
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>>102066534
Reasons why an Apple Mac is ideal for the person who hates Steam and hates PC gaming?

What anti-gaming activities are done on a Mac?
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>>102066558
reasons why a chromebook is the ideal laptop for the person who hates steam and hates pc gaming?
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>>102066548
PCI or PCIe? No AGP?
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>>102066543
>no reason to run upscaling
DLSS is often better than native >>102064757

>when I can get above 100 frames native.
Maybe in some old PS4 game. Not in anything new and demanding. Or maybe you're a 1080p pleb playing on low, meming about upsampling, who knows
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stay in your youtube channel, homo
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>>102066623
Note: This benchmark doesn't even use HW accelerated RT
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Who's the best AIB for Nvidia? I know Sapphire is highly rated for AMD but not sure about Nvidia.
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More about specific model than AIB
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>>102066080
>the difference visible even in his own screenshot
KEK
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so I just build a new budget PC with Ryzen 7500f. I have 60 C temp when just browsing and watching videos, is the stock cooler bad or am I mounting it wrong ?
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>>102066080
>>102066801
Also
KEK
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>>102066822
The stealth is bad. Minimally you want the wraith from a 7700, or just get an assassin X 120
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>>102066576
Pci only.
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These threads don't typically have overclocking/tuning discussions but what the fuck.

>7950X3D, Curve Optimizer Negative Offsets between -6 and -25, survives everything else, but crashes on AIDA64 SHA3 benchmark.

Anyone know any workloads similar to SHA3? Or if there's another issue besides simply core threshold overall stability?
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>>102066911
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>screenshot of seven centuries old cards
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>>102066963
>>102066995
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>>102066963
I'm curious what set you off on this anti-amd crusade? I can tell you put in alot of hours into assembling that folder of yours.
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>>102067000
He's paid
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>>102066995
Kek
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>>102067015
Unfortunately I think he's doing this for free
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>>102067000
I've owned two Radeon cards before I came to my senses: HD 7970 and RX 470. The thing that pissed me off the most was the crippled drivers, which no reviewer discussed in the main reviews of the cards
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>>102067051
reminds me of someone else, hmm.
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>>102067048
>hogwarts with rt
In its worst case scenario, the 4070 Ti is still better than the 7900 XTX
Really makes you think
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>>102065383
They are great for games and stuff since they are still noticeably faster than HDDs even in SATA limitations but definitely more expensive.
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>>102067053
>schizo ruski
Go die on the front faggot
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>>102067133
He asked what set me off, and it was Radeon's drivers. Why does that make you so mad?
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>>102066548
>>102066897
I just cleaned it. It was all dust. One of the caps looks half bad.
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becasue you are shitting up the thread
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>>102067107
Don’t have to pay RT tax with 7900xtx
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as an outsider looking in, it is very strange that someone is literally always here posting charts
like..do you have a job? is someone paying you to do this? if not, why bother? are you mentally handicapped or like mentally unstable? what do you gain by doing this for years?

i could be wrong and maybe it's multiple people...but it's the same reply style every time i come here.
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>>102067169
Yeah, you have to pay the native tax
And even then, you still can't match Geforce image quality
But I forgot, I said I wasn't feeding the troll with any more (You)s
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>>102066893
I see, but in this case, I'm just a dumb and forgot to turn off silent mode on the bios
and it's 31~32 ambiance here at noon lol
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>>102067214
can't be a general on 4chan without a resident schizo
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I have a SFF PC (low profile, only room for single slot GPU), and a decent full height GPU.
How much will it cost to buy an external adapter? I have PSUs to use.

The GPU is a GTX 1080 Ti.
I dont care if it only runs like 8 or 4 lanes.
I just need something to hold me over until I get a job.
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>>102066575
it cannot play games, it doesn't have steam
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>>102067251
it will cost you more than the gpu is worth, or a new case

if you must, get a pcie riser cable and run it beside the case with the side panel off
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>>102067235
it's really REALLY strange because on /v/ for example there's a guy that looks for final fantasy threads and will basically do the same thing and then when you ask him why they've been doing it for literal years they will not reply

i'm starting to think they are bots or actually work with the 4chan moderation team in some capacity
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>>102066897
Not even AGP slot? I don't even remember if PCI had any graphic accelerators. Some ancient matrox?
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>>102067230
> you still can't match Geforce image quality
Ofc, why should I?
I don’t want decrease my image quality to DLSS or DLSS FG
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>>102067230
>>102067339
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Are you nerds aware of any new low-profile gpus coming out in the near future? AMD still doesn't have any for the 7000 series, though they're likely to shove the laptop-tier chip on a short board and call it a day again like they did with the 6400.

>>102067251
PCIe riser and one of these sketchy cables from a mining site. Pic related. It turns on the secondary psu when it gets power from the main system. Via a relay before someone gets smarmy. Most SFF don't have a molex connector so you'll have to find another adapter.
Or get a a310 or 6400 ($100~120) and deal with less than ideal graphics for a while.
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>>102067370
>low-profile
Do you mean single slot? You probably only get those in the low-mid range
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>>102067339
>>102067353
>cyberpunk cherrypick
Quit trying to change the subject from Hogwarts with your cherrypick
What you're experiencing is called denial
https://youtu.be/O5B_dqi_Syc?si=gJ3Qj8hWcxXcsgqE&t=699
DLSS Quality at 1440p or 4K is better than nativeTM in Hogwarts

Radeon users have to pay the native tax. Why try to deny? You knew this when you bought the card: that's why you obsess over native and experience the sourest of grapes over DLSS
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>>102067325
I dunno myself. I can find pci gpus, but I don't know anything about them.
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No amount of RT or DLSS can cure mental illness
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>>102067325
>>102067522
https://technical.city/en/video/GeForce-FX-5500-PCI#video-outputs-and_ports
Example.
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>>102061335
Refunded mine seems unoptimised on NVIDIA too turning ray tracing off or down made no difference cinematic is just too demanding and it crashes
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>>102067474
>better than native
oh the cope
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>>102062428
Good I don't play slop
>>102061421
Don't care I'll keep buying Intel and AMD gpus
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>>102067564
It looks like dlss turns up the contrast a bit. That's it.
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>>102061437
They already did zen 2 and zen 5 suck ass
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THANK YOU ASUS FOR THE DOLLAR STORE PASTE
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>>102067563
>seems unoptimised on NVIDIA
Black Myth Wukong runs slightly better on Geforce than Radeon >>102066623, unless you consider DLSS or RT, in which case it runs massively better on Geforce >>102062150

Wukong is typical of UE5 games, so get used to the performance. Here's an optimization guide that can double your performance while still allowing the game to look decent
https://youtu.be/NlkgVAWqcKY?si=VcNDkP_KJsCF43Ri
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>>102067613
>he went asus
oh no no no
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>>102067647
>2760Mhz
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>>102067671
what's wrong with that
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>>102067370
>Or get a a310 or 6400 ($100~120) and deal with less than ideal graphics for a while.
Well, the reason I need a GPU is just so I can use my Korean VA monitor, which requires dual-link DVI.

Best GPU Ive found that I *think* will work is a GT 1030.
Any other recommendations on a low-profile single-slot GPU with a dual-link DVI port?
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>>102067474
Stop shitting your pants already, it’s the 2nd time today
Have some dignity, go play the monkey game at 720p DLSS Balanced
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>>102067674
isn't it supposed to be around 2900 on a 4090? my 4080 boosts at 2775-2835 stock, but i have it running at 2775 0.96v. The hot spot would be maxing out at over 90 if i left it running at stock voltage
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>>102067701
uh, no. and boosting to 2760mhz is quite good since it isn't even overclocked
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>>102067719
not overclocked beyond that pathetic stock overclock from gigabyte, that is
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why does there not exist a monitor with a standard atx case on the back, like an all in one? I can imagine it must be super easy to slap one of those slim-itx cases on the back of a monitor, you'd just have to make the stand a bit stronger to accommodate the extra weight
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Linus is a faggot
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>>102067701
4090s boost between 2715-2760mhz unless you get a golden samples that does 2850mhz ootb
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New trailer for the RTX Remix of Half Life 2
https://youtu.be/R0-F8sPprmA?si=0twzdzv1H06fWPib

Aesthetically quite similar to HL:Alyx
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>>102067947
some mini pcs can be VESA mounted to the back of monitors
maybe there are itx cases like that too?
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>>102067405
Mainly asking about low-profile. I purposely bought a cheap office sff with room for dual slot but it ironically doesn't have enough length available for most fan shrouds. Nothing that some tin snips can't fix but low profile options are ass. If nothing is leaked or coming up then I'll just get an A310 or A380 until these miners put up an A2000 for cheap.

>>102067675
If you can get one for under $50, then sure why not. DVI is an ancient standard so nothing newer is going to bother having it unless you want to try your luck on an adapter.
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>>102068068
>o-our AI will automatically remake textures in a few clicks
>everything will be so easy and fast
>about 2 years later
>1 game remastered
Insane scamming technologies
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>>102067701
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMyTcTW_zco
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcNm7NoOxBE
Then you got a good sample. Normal 4080s boost between 2730-2775mhz at stock
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anons, I have a Tecware fusion2 case and 5600x cpu. I plan to replace the stock cooler but dont want tower cooler because its a huge chuck of metal. Any recommendation for a low profile cooler?
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>>102068265
yeah that's the benefit of buying an 'oc' variant. people say it's a scam but for an extra $50 or so you're upping your chances of getting a good sample tremendously, because odds are they need them to handle the custom vbios
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>>102068289
5600x doesnt need more than stock

if you want it to run quieter just undervolt it
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>>102068254
RTX Remix is still in beta, and the open beta just started about six months ago
But I agree, wish that shit was moving a lot faster
Having said that most people don't have strong enough RT hardware yet anyway
4070 is pretty much a bare minimum, probably 4070 Ti Super a more realistic minimum
And if I had to guess, HL2 RTX will be be more demanding than Portal RTX, as there's a lot more geometry to trace against
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>>102068334
I see, thanks anon I thought id need better cooling for it
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why can't we get a gpu price drop as much as the cpu
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>>102068316
Its silicon lottery m8
An OC variant will only get you 15mhz tops
the >50mhz swing is based on silicon quality
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>>102068431
yeah true the manufacturers arent that smart
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>>102058124
>well, try it again, maybe it's nvidia fault it resets
still some fucking bug related to windows color calibration, every time computer sleeps and wake up the color calibration is not enabled, have to open the display settings and the color profile loads in again
not sure if windows, nvida bug or whatever
anyone have a solution for this garbage? FUCK
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>>102067675
you can run a normal card, just take your motherboard out of the case
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>>102068428
Because Nvidia owns the GPU market and has no competition.
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Arrow Lake save us!
:'(
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>>102068780
>no competition
Radeon GPUs are great, its to your own detriment that you all buy Nvidia.
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>>102068825
>*crashes*
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>>102068832
>*makes shit up*
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>>102068818
*blocks your path*
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>>102068885
Estrogen™ cores are the future
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>>102064367
You are definitely obsessed.
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>>102068911
its the future for soi slurpers, yes
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>>102068780
Consumers did it to themselves. Even when Radeon was good they still disproportionately bought Nvidia so AMD probably thinks it's futile to even bother with dedicated graphics cards.
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>>102068885
1 skymont e-core > 1 raptorlake p-core
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>>102068950
E-cores latencies will be shit
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>>102068940
>Even when Radeon
Radeon has been shit for at least 15 years
So basically forever
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>>102068978
still better than 9950x
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Is there any good way to compare motherboard layouts measurements? About 2 years ago I upgraded all my shit (essentially built a new PC), and I fucked up my motherboard, RAM, and AIO cooler combination, so now only one of the AIO fans fits in the case thanks to the position and height of the RAM.
Looking to do a minor upgrade now (just motherboard and CPU, because fuck Intel I want an X3D), so I want to actually get something that will allow me to install the other AIO fan.
picrel is my current build I'm upgrading from (plus an RTX 4080)
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>>102068950
>gobbledegood chart
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>>102068950
>+/- 10% margins
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>>102068994
That's why you get 1CCX ryzen over everything else
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>>102068996
Seems like the case is the issue. Cut a hole into the top of the case and rest the rad on chopsticks.
Alternatively just run the rad externally
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>>102061177
>https://youtu.be/yI_SN7cpTas?t=977
>new ucode fixes temp change behavior on 13th gen
>100C on new ucode would have been 93-94C with older ucodes
wtf how they did mess up something so fundamental
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>>102068940
Nah fuck AMD and RTG, they're fully complicit in the current state of the GPU market
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>>102069065
>AMD is complicit in people brainwashed to buy Nvidia
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>>102069060
It isn't the cores overheating on 13th gen, it's the ringbus.
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>>102069083
yes they are because they dont price aggressively
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>>102069088
The cores can cook the ringbus since they're not that far away
6-7C at high temps is a huge deal for silicon aging
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>>102069091
the 7800XT caused Nvidia to release the Super series
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Jenson and lisa are literally family. why would they compete with each other
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>>102069083
>offer a $50 discount
>turns out your product is way worse than $50 worse
Story of the 6700 XT's life. Started life as a $50 discount on the $500 3070, midlife could barely match the 3060 Ti, and now gets regularly trounced by the $400 3060 Ti because of DLSS (but that was true back then too)
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>>102069096
Dude it might be going over you head, but the old microcode wasn't reading the temperatures wrong, it's now just calibrated so the ringbus doesn't die. The cores themselves were being read fine before.
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>>102067000
for me, its when the free radeon driver stopped allowing forcing AA.
A lot of games dont have options to enable it so thru the driver was the only way.
worked till 2013 when the retard marek guy removed it.
always worked on nvidia so thats what ill use
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>>102069157
Why are you actively misinterpreting what he said
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>>102069091
AMD is always cheaper than Nvidia. I don't care if you think it isn't aggressive, it actually is. There has been very rarely a time when Nvidia won on price:performance and that was usually when just some new graphical tech had just came out.
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>1440p
>IPS
>at least 240hz
>HDMI 2.1
>AMD freesync
>No curved screen

Recommendations for monitors that meet these requirements? Some basic research seems to recommend the LG UltraGear 27GR93U, but that could just be reviewer/marketer shilling. Current monitor so some older 60hz 1440p Dell, which I will keep as a secondary monitor.
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>>102069157
GN was measuring the p-core sensor dumbass
Take your quackery to r*ddit or somewhere else
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>>102069152
Everyone knows the 6700XT is doing much better than the cards you're mentioning.
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>>102061177
Thoughts on the thermaltake h18 case?

The inside layouts, fan options and storage mounts/options look good but I'm suspicious of why it seems to be so cheap lol.

I'm currently using a tj08e case from a decade ago which is my favourite case (though I'm finding it w bit cramped now) was wondering if I should stick with this or change to the h18?

I'm basically building a 2nd computer for my nephew with old parts and not sure which case i should give him
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>>102069116
they have been producing super™ refreshes since 20 and 16 series, before that they just called them ti

radeon is simply overpriced, and would easily gain a decent chunk of market share and base if they but priced aggressively against nvidia and forced them to lower their prices. hopefully now with intel out of the picture for the next 2 years they will be brave enough to
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>>102065751
Demand outstripping supply, I guess. Not sure why people would pay anywhere near $350. 5700x3d is almost as fast and can be had for $209.99 on Amazon rn.
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What are the chances we'll hear something about Arrow Lake and Granite Rapids during IFA early September, right after Lunar Lake launch?
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>>102069206
$55 is not cheap. $20 is cheap. $30 is cheap.
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>>102068950
how many watts will these cpus be
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>>102069224
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>>102069224
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>>102069165
I'm not.

>>102069172
>GN was measuring the p-core sensor dumbass
The temperature of the performance cores was never being read wrong. Stop talking and start thinking, the physics of the cores themselves has changed not at all, it's just calibrated now to give an intentional misread so the ringbus doesn't bake.
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I had planed on building but stumbled upon this. its a daily deal that I can get an additional $200 of for labor day. So ~$3350 total including shipping and tax. Am I crazy for thinking this is an incredible deal? I cant even get the parts this cheap.
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>>102069234
>400W cpu that degrades in 2 weeks
lol
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>>102069234
>14900KF
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>>102069231
>calibrated now to give an intentional misread
possible, but that's assuming intel was competent in the first place (they're not - oxidation, tvb bug, non-K overclocking etc.)
>so the ringbus doesn't bake
that's just speculation so far. we don't have hard data that this is actually the case
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>>102069170
you can buy a curved screen, heat it up with a couple hair driers till it softens, put a bunch of books with weights on it till it flattens, let it cool, and then you will have a non curved screen
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>>102069234
>14900KF
you're buying defective stock
$3350 is too much money to hold others' bags
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>>102069263
That would void the warranty.
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>>102069167
nvidia is the one setting the price ceiling, not amd
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>>102069281
Fabs are the ones setting the price floor. The majority of Nvidia's products are not 100% markup. AMD cannot actually go under the price floor. Intel HAS been going under the price floor.
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>>102069274
>>102069249
>>102069250
it surprisingly gives the option to switch CPUs. Are all 1400s effected?
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>>102069305
14600k and under should be safe
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>>102069305
The 14600s might be okay, but more likely is that they simply live longer before dying, like a year longer or so.

There've been no reports of stuff like the 14400 or Intel's laptop chips dying. Obviously you aren't buying those, however.
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>>102069191
>Everyone knows
Maybe in your alternate universe
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>>102069324
Everyone knows you're wrong and that you keep pushing this shit constantly here.
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>>102069322
Damn. I'm not even going to risk it. Knew there was a catch. Back to wating for the 5080/5090. Hopefully intel will have there cpus figured out by then
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i think it's a very retarded move to post benchmark results of dogshit unoptimized games that aren't even fun to play
a rtx 3060 or rx 6600 off of ebay is enough to play everything worth playing out there and if you think otherwise you're a gay consoomer
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>>102069333
>Everyone knows
How about this
Everyone knows I'm right
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>>102069353
supposedly they have something coming out soon. maybe they will pull another core 2 out of their ass.
for the time being amd is still on top.
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>>102069371
Everyone knows you rightly belong in a mental institution
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>>102069299
so the fabs started gouging after crypto and scalper crazes too? that is very grim
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>>102069386
Keep denying all you want
Doesn't change reality
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>>102069371
No really, everyone reading this knows you're a dipshit who spams stupid images thread after thread because you actually suck Jensen's cock. No the 3070's VRAM is a serious issue and you playing in 720p doesn't make up for that.
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>>102069398
Look how poorly the 6700 XT aged
Your lord and savior VRAM can't save AMD's cards
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>>102069426
I like how you're arguing in the new thread that VRAM has nothing to do with resolution while you repeatedly post pics of 720p gaming.

The 6700XT can handle 1440p on high settings gaming in most games.
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>>102069444
I'm not seeing much correlation
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>>102062541
Pretty based iyam. I won't buy a case without external 2x5.25, or 1x5.25 and 1x3.5, bays.
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>>102069456
Oh look, he ran away from the cards we're talking about and is trying to show different cards now.
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all this spamming does is drive me away from ever buying another nvidiot card.
i don't want your dogshit movie games, i don't want upscaling bullshit, i want an actual GPU with actual rasterization performance, your nvidiot cards with dogshit raster can fuck right off
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>>102069478
We can go back if you want
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>>102069536
>720p
The 6700XT is a 1440p card. Your cards on your list cannot handle even 1080p, that's why you're using DLSS as a crutch.
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>>102069502
This. Fuck dealing with NVIDIA Control Panel and MSI Afterburner btw, retarded buggy software that don't even do the job
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>>102069554
What you're not understanding is that DLSS saves the 3060 Ti and 3070 for 1440p and even 1080p, the resolutions they were often bought for. The 6700 XT has no such savior.
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>>102069502
The NVIDINigger will just conveniently ignore your post, don't bother
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>>102069600
Meanwhile in reality the 6700XT is a 1440p card. Yes, we can see quite well you're resorting to RT maxed out yadda yadda that is clearly above what any of those cards can do, and you're trying to save just the Geforce cards by enabling DLSS. You don't actually care about the graphics or anything.
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>>102069620
>is
Maybe you mean 'was,' because it certainly isn't, but back then obviously the VRAM didn't matter >>102069152, and still doesn't on balance to this day. 6700 XT has aged terribly because it doesn't have DLSS

>you're resorting to RT maxed
No I'm not. In fact you can see that RT is disabled >>102069426
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>>102069723
the reason amd cards don't have dlss is because it's proprietary closed source black box software. anti consumer practice.
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>>102069723
The 6700XT has aged much better than any Geforce card that is roughly equivalent, and is doing much better than the 4060 even.

Lords of the Fallen looks like a rare game that still sits under the 8GB limit. That's not usual and 12GB is the standard.
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>>102069802
Why should Nvidia spend its resources on developing a revolutionary technology and then give it away for free? What you're saying is anti capitalist. It's your choice not to spend another $50 when building a $1000-$2000 to get a card with DLSS. You have to deal with the consequence of your choice

>>102069823
>a rare game that still sits under the 8GB limit
Delusional. Games that have any problem with 8 GB cards are rare, the exception to the rule.
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>>102069892
Nope, most games don't run at high settings under 8GB now.
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>>102067214
He's been at it for few years now, the guy keeps shilling 4090 even though top card he had was like 2070 I don't remember
Nvidia is Apple on steroids, people kill for it. Apple can only dream of this cult status, at least apple has to provide basic support, Nvidia just blames third parties for anything that breaks. Proverbial dindunothin.
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>>102069911
Literally delusional, you are AMD's mark.
I'm posting new game after new game where these cards have run out of shading power long before VRAM makes a difference
This is what always happens
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>>102062541
I think Torrent got similar vibe, that's why I got it.
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>>102069915
>the guy keeps shilling 4090
This OP >>102061177 is mine, and it doesn't recommend the 4090 for gaming

>the guy keeps shilling 4090
This is called FUD. You are a delusional liar, and a Radeonfriend. The two go hand in hand
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>>102070029
sure buddy, I remember when last time I was here you kept shilling 4090 as the best price/performance card and that if you can spend $800 you can spend $1600.
You are not fooling anyone we all know who you are. Maybe read a few books to change your writing style.
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>>102069993
You are posting a game that nobody plays and is also one of the rare ones under the 8GB limit.

You can also look up screenshots of the game on the review your source is linking, the max settings and minimum settings look the same.
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>>102070082
>anonymous is one person
Radeonfriends were never too bright.
They do lie a lot though

>>102070118
>rare
This is called AMDelusion. No games need more than 8GB to run. A very few require lowering settings to stay within an 8 GB buffer, and they're mostly AMD sponsored tech abominations like Flopspoken or TLoU.

Contrast with FSR destroying the 6700 XT's image quality in every new demanding game
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>>102070163
>This is called AMDelusion. No games need more than 8GB to run
Except they do, and you have to post a Spanish game whose graphical settings doesn't change the visuals at all to find a counter-example.
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>>102070177
I just posted 11 of the newest games, 9 of them being Unreal Engine 5 titles (arguably the most advanced engine currently available), which prove you wrong.
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>>102070245
Starfield runs like crap on every computer and it's a CPU bound game. In the rare instance it's GPU bound, it favors more VRAM.
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>>102070266
>it favors more VRAM
Nah
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>turn down hz on monitor
>mouse feels horrendous
I think I might be on the 480hz 1440p > 4k 240hz oled POV
you might have to hzmaxx before you pixelmaxx in all honesty

1440p 480hz shipping next month sirs
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>>102061177
What's the Antec 300 case of 2024?

Also, if one of my front USB ports is broken what's the best way to replace it? Or is there at least some sort of front drive I can add for USB ports?



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