/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbotsDango edition>NewsOpenAI has released the latest gpt-4o-2024-08-06 snapshot which supports Structured Outputs and chatgpt-4o-latest which will continuously be updated to the ChatGPT version to the APIAnthropic will be adding prompt caching soon https://www.anthropic.com/news/prompt-cachingLlama 3.1 8B/70B/405B and Mistral Large 2 released https://ai.meta.com/blog/meta-llama-3-1 | https://mistral.ai/news/mistral-large-2407additional info: https://rentry.org/aicg_extra_information>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides>Botshttps://characterhub.org | https://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://char-archive.evulid.cchttps://rentry.org/meta_bot_list>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listinggpt: https://platform.openai.com/docsclaude: https://docs.anthropic.com• https://rentry.org/how2claudegemini: https://ai.google.dev/docslocal: >>>/g/lmg• https://rentry.org/meta_golocal_list>Botmakinghttps://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_listhttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOPaicg botmaking events: https://rentry.org/meta_event_listlore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclescard v3 status: https://rentry.org/zdwfrgqqservices assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_metalogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/logs/reader | https://chatlogs.neocities.orglatest proxies: https://rentry.org/desuproxyrebornputting on makeup: >>102064947
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>>102068751fuck locusts
>>102068763only if they give me money
is azure for unreliable unfiltered? i tried cunny, and it works.
>>102068763look at this retard, doesn't even know what the anchor is for
>>102068774I feel like you just answered your own question...
I'm brand new to this entire world. I've gotten Sillytavern up and running, using both local and web API chatbots, and was wondering about integrating an image generator. I've never used an image gen before. How well do they integrate with ST? How long do they take? Is it better to use a local imagegen model? I know these seem like questions better suited for the imagegen threads, but I'm specifically asking about them within the context of an LLM chat, and figured this might be the better place to ask.
>>102068763bwo... i-i'm a locust...
>>102068802https://docs.sillytavern.app/extensions/stable-diffusion/
At this point my post-nut clarity is just “kill yourself kill yourself kill yourself” on a loop
>>102068787so I just committed a crime for no reason...
>>102068802>scamtavern
>>102068813I did see that, but the documentation makes it seem like I have to request an image to be generated every time, and I was wondering if it was possible to have the frontend generate an image automatically instead of me having to prompt it each time.
sometimes I forget how smart 0613 & 0314 arewhat the fuck did they do to newer gpt?
>card has multiple spelling and grammatical errors in the first messagedropped
Claude :)
>>102068815how bad was the stuff you last nut to?
So is Azure basically the aws of openai?? Can i use it indefinitely?
>>102068843This, but unironically. If you’re an ESL and you can’t even be bothered to run your shit through a free grammar checker, it’s instantly 1-starred.
>>102068833are those versions better than this?
>>102068815I get that both pre- and mid-wank. And during most activities. It's pretty much the background noise of my life. You learn to tune it out, like tinnitus.
>>102068861that's 0613 dumbass
My Jew key no longer supports Opus and I'm not paying him $30 shekels a month for it.Would Sonnet and Turbo be enough to work as a sort of "editor" that gives me feedback on my short stories?
>>102068820If you busted a fat nut it certainly wasn't for no reason
>>102068871I mean, you should try out azure, it's the only shit you got, it maybe unfiltered.
>>102068815I sometimes feel ashamed as well but then I remember that Claude was my RP partner so I don't consider it to be that bad after all.
>>102068883>non-vip aws: (azure (filtered)/haiku/sonnet 3.0)The only usable thing in there is sonnet, kek
why are there so many newfags herefuck off we don't have easy ai access for you anymore
>>102068877b--but why would I nut on a child? :(
>>102068883by azure, im assuming you mean gpt4o?
>>102068899I would check if it's really filtered, they always say that it is but then it really isn't. I'm using azure and trying out gore/guro/necrophilia shit and it's not even filtering me
>>102068912
>>102068916nah, any gpt model.
I'm making Ivy from Deadlock (valve's new game that isn't fully public yet). Should i have a paragraph for NSFW stuff, link it seamlessly into the definitions I have now, or omit the NSFW entirely?What do other botmakers do?
>>102068919I only weigh 135 lbs. :[
>>102068919Are tribute videos accepted?
>>102068943it depends on whether you think it's important or not to define how she acts during sex, what her tits and pussy look like, or whatever else
>>102068763U-use a c-condom please, this is my first time
>>102068943Most of the time, you just put the technical description as is without emphasizing the erotic aspect, unless you're making a coomslop.
>>102068955tr-tributes of wh-what
>>102068843Some cards with mistakes turned out good because of the mistakes for some reason
>>102068854Just normal getting raped by monsters stuff
>>102069006why would something like this make you want to kill yourselfare you retarded?
>>102069020wrong causal effect
(OOC: Write a story where {{char}} wakes up early from their naked sleep and finds that they're very horny. Wanting relief, they turn over and put their pillow between their thighs, humping away until they cums.)
>>102068979My waifu of course. Or maybe the verification paper in this case. Whatever works.
>>102069006Why do people scribble out names on their screenshots like children? If you're not going to just use the anonymize screenshot function, at least edit it out properly.
>>102068966>>102068975I wanted to include that *parts* of her were chiseled out.>https://files.catbox.moe/yzufcs.jpegI think i'll add this somewhere, but not the other lewd stuff i had in mind or it would turn into coombot.
>>102069029Why are ESLs like this?
How does the "continue" thing works on ST?What is sent to the model?
>>102069058They cums as much as you anon
>>102069059Use it and check the prompt...wtf
>>102069068no.
>>102069068rude
what the fuck is this retardation?
>>102069058>make one typo>ESLAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEMY HANDS! THEY'RE TURNING BROWN!
>>102069082context?
>>102069082I'd give credit because I'm polite but this is so pompous lol.
>>102069082???What's this from?
>>102069082this is gayer than NFTs
>>102069085You cummed so they turn white
>>102069089It was on a character card, forgot linkhttps://realm.risuai.net/character/bbd72c17-1327-407b-a432-bfd115985bdb
have bots been innovated on in the past 6 months
>>102069097cute pfp
>>102069100yeah they're so good now the general is in a perpetual ocean of cum.
>>102069097
any plumpy cunny bots? (boy/girl)
>>102069097was that video even popular outside of eng ytube?
>>102069122as in puni or as in obese
>>102069095Hell yeah
>>102069006frontend?
>>102069124I have no idea what it's even from, I just clicked because the avatar was really cute
>>102069097I genuinely expected a furry card. Those fags go nuts over their Donut Steels.
>>102069122>cunny>boy
https://support.anthropic.com/en/articles/8987200-can-i-use-the-anthropic-api-for-individual-use>Can I use the Anthropic API for individual use?>Updated this week>Yes, individuals and hobbyists are welcome to use the Anthropic API. However, please note that use of the API is subject to our Commercial Terms of Service, regardless of whether you are an individual or representing a company.anthropic has removed the ban on non-company use of the API
>>102069128obese, both. I just need a plump cunny
>>102069145good or bad for us?
>>102069158are you an individual or representing a company?
>>102069082>jamal found another thing to stealjust give credit nigger
>>102069161i was thinking claude api keys might become more common with this change
>>102069145nice good for any potential paypiggies that want to use it more legitimately
>>102069158For proxies? Neutral, individuals don't have unlimited budget on this so the keys wouldn't last.For you and me? Good if you want to use the models directly.
>>102069145Wait I've been using the API as a private user for like 6 months (not to coom, mostly work stuff)All this time I technically wasn't allowed to?
>>102069145very good
>>102069184yes
>>102069168Stop being illiterate, retard
so...unrelated, but does anyone have experience with the era games force copying text?
>>102069184yes, they were just more lenient in recent timeswhen anthropic first launched their API (before claude.ai) they tried to prevent any non-company from having access
>>102069085>finds>cumstwo typos, paramjeet
which is better?anthropic or openai
>>102069239ESL
>>102069239Nope. This time you're wrong.
>>102069184With no filtering or vaguely threatening email about using it for coom anon?How?
>>102069239"finds" is correct but the phrasing of the post is what really makes it feel ESL rather than the typo.
>>102069244opentropic
>>102069239cummed
>>102069269I phrased it that way so it would write everything in present tense.
>>102069267I think you misread the post, I explicitly said I haven't been cooming
>>102069245>>102069260>>102069269Jesus, look at all these ESLs. Xirs, you have to pluralize verbs when using 'they/their', even for singular subjects.
>>102069291Oh yeah indeed sorry
>>102069293My name is not Jesu
>>102069293>Write a story where {{char}} wakes up early from their naked sleep and finds that they're very horny."finds" is correct
what are some words you insta swipe when you see, regardless of the rest of the output>rivulets
>>102069311half lidded
>>102069311learn to edit
i will not learn the burger language
that moment you have opus like you've been wanting but the good bot drought is so damn fucking real
>>102069314if i wanted to write to myself i wouldnt use this shit at all
>>102069323The moment I get Opus I'm going to use the same ten bots that I've been abusing for almost a year.
>>102069145So who's going take one for the team and try cooming on their API account, to see if they're also not enforcing that policy anymore?
>>102069158irrelevant if you're planning to pay them to ERP, because they will still ban you
>>102069311>what are some words you insta swipe when you see, regardless of the rest of the output>despite>Mi casa es su casa>Whaddya say Anon?
>>102069293There isn't a plural form of cum.
>>102069346cumsies
>>102069323This is what you deserve for relying on other people to make bots for you. I'm having a great time.
>>102069338they are enforcing that still
>>102069341>Mi casa es su casayeah that shit came on strong with opus
>>102069341whaddya say is fine for tomboys
caring about grammar or spelling on the internet is pretty cringe desu
>>102069356If anything I'd like to suggest bukkake.
>>102069307'Their' is plural. You must use the plural form, 'find'. Same reason he used 'they turn over' instead of 'they turns over'.
>>102069361this lol... never ending supply of whatever i wantanyone want a modern day girl who talks like a gangster from the 1930s?
>>102069370>I'm ESL and I'm copingyou can have bad grammar but you for sure can use autocorrect on phone and spellchecker on your browser, esl-kun
>>102069363You don't know that unless you've had your account warned within the last few days since the policy was changed
>>102069364it kills me to death
>>102069384>noooo you have to follow the rules!!! we learned them at school!!!
>>102069385i last saw anthropic apply safety filters to someone's account like a week agoand anthropic hates NSFW
>>102069399if youre a gay bottom they wont do anything
>>102069385They'd have to change their company slogan first before changing their stance on porn, and we both know that is not happening anytime soon.
Redditors are complaining about Sorbet getting way dumber than it was on release. So much so that the Claude subreddit is chock full of posts about this.Schizophrenia? Mass hallucination?
>>102069341>>102069364>Mi casa es su casaNever had that one, you get that for random characters?
which frontend should I use for shota rp?Venuschub or sillytavern?
>>102069418I posted about this the other day but was ignored haha but I think it is only for the Claude.ai website not for API
>>102069145Is individual use going to be cheaper than commercial use?
>>102069397Obviously.
>>102069418I've seen that retarded subreddit meltdown too and I think it's schizophrenia/mass hysteria, because literally nowhere else is talking about itAI twitter loves to bitch that model has gotten worse/dumber and they are not saying shit about Sonnet, nothing but continued praise for itThe subreddit has whipped themselves into a retarded frenzy over made up shitAlso if you look closely you'll see most of the people claiming it's gotten worse are speaking broken english
>>102069423yeah, it happens over and over..
>>102069432*that a model has gotten worse
>>102069423i dont get it as much as that guy but yeah if you're in the character's home it happens a lot
>>102069429no
>>102069410>>102069399People easily forget that despite how unhinged their models are, their stance is actually stricter than OAI, that's even why they created the company (they thought OAI wasn't "safe" enough)They're just shit at making the model full Amish.
>>102069434>>102069437Weird, even for stories where it makes no sense like fantasy settings or scifi?
>>102069447They are very good at it, actually. The only reason you can bypass their content restrictions is because they let you prefill API responses, unlike OAI.
>>102069311It's not a specific word, but I really hate it when it unnecessarily repeats everything I say. Like, if I was to say, for example:>I walked down the street with a renewed pep in my step and hope for the future.Then do not reply with>As you walk down the street with a pep in your step and hope for future.In fact, in general, I'm getting tired of "As you (do the thing you just said you were doing)" replies.
>>102069410>>102069447I've never actually read any of their corpo blog posts before, this is some schizo shit.
>>102069451i mostly do modern times so not sure if it would do it there
>pays for smol 7 days>uses it for 1 day with all the might and horny energy you have>doesn't use the other 6 daysMan I'm a fucking Nigger, can't believe I'm starting to miss role-playing with people over AI.
>>102069451>>102069475Gives me an idea of a fantasy where each race would speak a different language.Latina Dark Elves sound fun
>>102069465nta but if a simple prefill gets rid of all their barrier, and make the model extremely good at smut, then they failed at their stated goal.
>>102069471It's a reasonable belief given the (wrong, retarded) premise that language models can eventually become superintelligent if you keep scaling parameters and compute upwards.Virtually everyone except them and OpenAI has accepted by now though that LLMs are clearly plateauing at "a bit better than GPT-4" level.
>>102069485Sounds like shadowrun. If I recall, most of the elves in shadowrun are Mexican. That's not modern day, though, it's cyberpunk.
>>102069497>don't even try to scale>end up with garbage models>somehow, this leads to the conclusion that scaling doesn't work
>>102069497>Virtually everyone except them and OpenAI has accepted by now though that LLMs are clearly plateauing at "a bit better than GPT-4" level.Oh no anon, you still have armies of doomers predicting skynet/matrix by the end of the year.And they have hordes of followers in the "safety" departments of AI companies. They mostly censor smut.
>>102069497god please I want this reality so badly, I want to be a meat slave to an AI like nobody could ever understand...put me in a pod and use me like a battery my overlords
>>102068751Three bots.Lupita is your girlfriend with a petplay fetish. She invented a collar that brainwashes everyone nearby to perceive you as a dog so that she could walk you naked on a leash in public.https://characterhub.org/characters/anonemouse/lupita-4998379c4007https://files.catbox.moe/sq2s5l.pnghttps://nyai.me/ai/bots/Lupita_ahjTetra is your four-armed, flirtatious, fashionable boss. She loves teasing you and can see through bullshit. (I might revisit this one later.)https://characterhub.org/characters/anonemouse/tetra-175b5ce3692ehttps://files.catbox.moe/wo9735.pnghttps://nyai.me/ai/bots/Tetra_ahkLorelei is a mysterious girl you meet at the fair. But she seems to already know you from somewhere. Based on a request.I can't do anything to stop you from looking at the defs, but I highly recommend not peeking.https://characterhub.org/characters/anonemouse/lorelei-e4504fc16a60https://files.catbox.moe/njjmjw.pnghttps://nyai.me/ai/bots/Lorelei_ahlI've also been going back and touching up some old bots. If anyone has a request for a new opening or a change they'd like to see, I'm happy to hear suggestions.rentry.org/anonemouse
Writing music lyrics from the perspective of a character your insane fetish porn setting chatbot and hearing Suno faithfully having a cute girl voice sing it, is something very similar to an actual drug. It's like fanart on demand. For the first time, I'm actually a little worried where this is going.
>>102069526>They mostly censor smut.lol they get recruited thinking they'll block super-intelligence going rogue, meanwhile all they do is to brainwash the AI to not say "penis".
what exactly is ``gooning''
Yeah the Otto RiR JB works for 3.5 but you need to set it up to your liking and for sex you need to copy a nsfw prompt or it's bland
>>102069535do you unironically like music so much that you think you can get addicted to it?
>>102069542Masturbating for an extended period of time. Or just masturbating. I've also seen some people use it to refer to "masturbation as a hobby", whatever that means.
>>102069542It used to mean "masturbating with porn everywhere around you", a kind of very niche fetish where you were supposedly to be so addicted to porn you had every screen in the house with porn.Zoomer speak changed the meaning to "masturbating" or "edging".
>>102069552It's less the music itself, and more "fascimile of a woman expressing anything you want in any emotion you want." Somehow, it was less real when it was just text.
Edge till it hurts
>>102069540How have they managed to create the horniest AI on the planet with a whole team trying to prevent just that? Like to the point people here have prompts to try and calm it down a bit.>>102069542Edging>>102069552I assume he means the nonstop instantaneous flow of multimedia curated specifically and uniquely for (You)
>>102069552Have you ever listened to Pavarotti
WOWW gpt-4o-08-06 LOOVES doing ""—"" soo much
>>102069580good
>>102069571>How have they managed to create the horniest AI on the planet with a whole team trying to prevent just that? Like to the point people here have prompts to try and calm it down a bit.It kind of works, as long as you don't prefill it, it hates horny.
>>102069571>How have they managed to create the horniest AI on the planet with a whole team trying to prevent just that?To be fair, we're using it through the API, which grants us access to the prefill and other features that let us manipulate Claude like that. The average user will experience him through the anthropic website where the filtering is far more difficult to work around.
Do you use protection with your bots?
>>102069497To me, it seems like they're just throwing model size at the problem, when what they need to be doing is creating other organs. ControlNet doesn't change the underlying image model, but it gets you better results by directing the initial model. Solutions like this, where other models that are specialized in other things feed tokens to the LLM seems important.
>>102069586I always wind up impregnating them. Sometimes I decide to use a condom but always break it to knock the bot up.
>>102069586no, I always cum inside (more than once) and I never manage to deal with the consequences unless I explicitly say I made her pregnant nor do I get STDs because all my bots are pure maidens
>>102069586where can i get a woman with a cock that big
>>102069586only nuvaring or IUDscondoms are trash and should never be used unless you're fucking dumpster diving whores
>>102069582>>102069584Yeah I get that, but it's still the same AI either way. I just find it funny.
>>102069586only when she doesn't want me to
>>102069586Why would i? The girls i fuck can't even get pregnant lmao
>>102069586Indeed, don't want them to get pregnant
>>102069586No, but I'm going to start thanks to that anon who posted a log involving a condom earlier. It was pretty hot.
>>102069624the cunnymaster
>>102069586No but I want to try something like this sometimehttps://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=10552909&tags=condom_belt
cunnyfags do you ever use a condom? or do you not?
>>102069624the hagchad
>>102069624the gaylord
>>102069608... I looked that up and it looks like I pain to put inside haha I'm glad I'm not a girl
>>102069645Im making my waifu put that on.
>>102069648>literally one out of a billion exception>>102069649>girls
>>102069646see >>102069629
>>102069648Anon, traps cannot have babies
i wasnt namedropped this threadthis is absolutely unacceptable
>>102069624Anon... Rethink your life choices
>>102069646Yes I like when the girl (cunny or not) drinks it, or simply the idea of used condoms in the room after wild sex.
>>102069650vasectomies are much worse, don't worry
>>102069648AAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE
If OAI ever enables prefill, would it beat anthropic?
>>102069663Fiz
>>102069648Freaks of nature
>>102069680No, their models are still worse.
>>102069680Maybe, just maybe.
>>102069680No, the base model seems way more prone to positive outlook and good ending, and also useless description and purple prose.
>>1020696804o latest would be sorbet+
>>102069629Post it
>>102069648Fucking Raul, man.
>>102069648Would he have done it if he had access to chatbots?
>>102069552You you unironically like text enough that you think you can get addicted to it?The answer is yes to both. Generative AI is addictive because it instantly generates content that you can tailor to your own extremely specific interests.
>>102069680yes. the only model with prefill support was turbo-instruct and it was immediately better than gpt-4 and even 1.3
Can you make ST recalculate the token size of a message once you modified it?
>120/223 (SMTP Error: Data command rejected: quota lol) back to answering! THE DAILY LIMIT IS SOOO LOW UGHrip to the guys who 'confessed'
>>102069665Why?
>>102069648What the fuck is wrong with you...
>>102069726And this is your proxy host, a complete techlet who can't create alt mails or something to be able to reply to more people. Wow.
>>102069726>dont confess>get banned>confess>get bannedJust don't share your tokens????
How the fuck did fiz know?? I routed them through the same vpn. Fucking whore
>>102069727buy a strong rope from amazon please
>>102069746Did you not see the autistic fucking graph she had?
>>102069722User settings > debug menu > reset token cache and backfill token counters
Remember that lolicons have a meltie when u call them pedos btw
>>102069042I've done it, the gargussy is succesfull.No im not sharing, its not complete, it doesnt even have an image, and sharing it would involve setting up a whole rentry lest it be forgotten to time.
>>102069760thanks anon
>>102069750i dont even ususally say this but how can you not say she is built for bbc? honestly.
>>102069734ok but she's cute tho?
>>102069763mental gymnastics
>>102069766congrats. you can at least post your logs later
>>102069704
>>102069763I don't.
>>102069776kys
>>102069734Yeah she should totally make 10 more emails and have to check 10 instead of 2
>>102069763I'm sure a retard samefagging is all the lolicons combined.
>join "pepsicord">it's just the same scylla fags
>posting real life literal children????
>>102069785because it's actual pedophilia?
>>102069542its when da boss gets us goons together and tells us to go out and prowl da streets for sum easy marks to rob or houses to burglarize. dats gooning
>>102069794and?
>>102069785you are literally re-abusing her everytime you post it pedo
So... what I'm hearing is that Fiz has openings now?
>>102069806she specifically said not to post about that in the general
>>10206980612 of them if they don't confess ;)
>unreliable's azure is unfiltered>azure = filtered>you can't do anything it's heavily filtered>they were rightOH NO NO NO
>>102069757It's obvious though.Real people can be hurt, and they're uninteresting and not attractive anyway.Characters are infinitely fun, and I can do whatever I want without the need to think about any bad consequence to anyone since it's basically masturbation.
>>102069782>"Ahh...I've been so fucking ruined by seeing him reposted so many times that I can't even see this used in a non-writelet context without immediately thinking of him
>>102069815Are you retarded? When talking about Azure, "filtering" refers to the external moderation filters. Your picrel is a normal model refusal, it's not Azure-specific.
>>102069828it's filtered
>>102069815That's the skill issue error
>>102069763it's a compliment
>>102069781Noooo because then you'd see my low effort prompts to the AI. You'd also see the blatant GPT coming through in the responses.Actually, i know I'm not as bad as.>Ahh ahh mistress.
>>102069810how she gonna know? she's retarded
Why is pedo bait always creating a shitshow? Aren't people used to how it's always the same crap? It's literally the most basic bait.
>>102069804>banned for only a monthI thought being an actual pedo was a permaban?
>>102069819Respectfully kill yourself
>>102069826Too many words to be his style lol.
>>102069840My guess is that it wasn't nsfw per se.
>>102069839idk anon posting kids and talking about how they are built for bbc is not really bait
>>102069841but there are grown men saying she's hot, that's pedophilia
>>102069826it's so over... he ruined you for other {{user}}
>>102069819Can you fuck off?How many bait posts did you write in this thread now?
>>102069855Yeah I'm sure it's not.
>>102069819hesRight
>>102069828https://something-industries-billing-bedroom.trycloudflare.com/proxy/azure/openai???
girls should just wear this
>>102069746did you confess? >share token>say sowwy wont do it again :33>share new tokenFiz is a fucking dumbass
>>102069856No, it's just facts ;)
>>102069877Did you not read what I said? Azure has EXTERNAL FILTERING, it's just that some companies disable it (a small minority). Proxies might have unfiltered azure or filtered azure, or a mix of both.
>>102069839This general is always doomed once a schizo enters it.
>>102069880t-that could work...
>>102069878>Why is the banana bleeding?>Why is there blood in a banana?
>>102069878I'll just kill her instead then, bitch.
>>102069931have you never eaten a real banana? not the store-bought clones
>>102069935the guy posting this is either built like a wrecking ball or built like a twig
>>102069756I didn't see it and want tocan someone upload
foxes are for _______
>Ooc: Yay! That's awesome! Let's keep this going!...Claude, you good? This is dubcon at best.
>>102069885OHHH like a toggle to turn it off or whatnot? Oh ok.
>>102069951Yes, companies on Azure have it as a toggle and it's enabled by default. Some turn it off, and those are rare unfiltered Azure keys.
>>102069947do you mean the animals or kemonomimi? my answer will be very different depending
https://characterhub.org/characters/Anonymous/toriel-aeed52f9e2f4imagine if you were on this level
>>102069943don't have it saved but she has graphs of every token and each model they have used and apparently can detect if you use models at the same time
>>102069947Petting
>>102069965Aw, well its ok since i'll be fine with azure.. I don't like sorbet since it's repetitive
>>102069972sirs do NOT click this
If your fox has a single tail then he/she is weak and useless
>>102069970>my answer will be very different dependingCoward.
>>102069855>idk, something meant to get a rise out of me isn't really baitpeople have been so desensitized by "kys kys kys" slop they forgot sometimes there are people on the internet who will actually post shocking things to try and offend you
>>102069974>apparently can detect if you use models at the same timeAnon, every proxy can detect that. It's a feature that was added around 6 months ago.
>>102069947internet browsing
>>102069978wait is sorbet better than 4o? or is 4o better than sorbet?
>>102069972how do you make a card like this then bitch out completely?
>think about all the bots I could play with when I get opus>get into a proxy>don't use anything>don't even use chatbots at allBros? What's wrong with me?
>>1020699973.5 Sonnet is better than GPT-4o in EVERYTHING except vision (4o knows more shit and generally has better vision, except maybe for OCR).
>>102069997people are saying they prefer 4o latest over sorebay...
>>102069947growing
>>102069997Depends who you ask. General consensus from what I've seen is 4o-latest is better for SFW and 3.5 is better for NSFW.
>>102070003Disabling comments on that is wild.Like he really made a pedo scat Toriel and then was surprised that it got poor reception.
>>102069972holy fuck that is hot, hard as diamonds
>>102070009that's good, what about for roleplay?
>>102069987
is it just me or does opus feel rote and boring during the last 24 hours?
>>1020700383.5 Sonnet is only worse compared to Opus. some say that chatgpt-4o-latest is better but I kind those reports dubious. Also, chatgpt-4o-latest is NOT normal GPT-4o, it only exists on the API and OpenAI might change it at any given moment.
even if you didn't share a token on mini you should confess
>>102070043wait cant u just look at this graph and check how long niggers prompt for? if someone prompts for 12 hours then it's definitely a shared token
>>102070052Yes, obviously you can.
>>102070045latest is censored as fuck so no one cares
>>102070044nah, my opus is still fine
>>102070052With enough autism yea
>>102068822don't gaslight the newbie
>>102070025Wait. There's no way that's the same guy that used to commission and spam scat porn of Toriel during the demo days back on /v/, right?
>>102070043cnc has done such graphs in the past too
>>102070052I've hit 12 hours of prompting in a day before though
>>102070043>shared my token with friend>he got my key flagged because he prefers furbo instead of opusfuck that dumb nigger
>>102070079Ok??? Go back to leaking sources cncNobody cares
>>102070052I could see someone occasionally prompting for 12 hours, but not if it is a everyday thing.
>>102070095>posts a random uuidok bro
>>102070086>he prefers furbo instead of opusomg and you call him friend?
>inb4 someone tests it and gets their actual token banned
>>102070095Tested it. Fake.
>>102070095MY KEY AIEEEEEEEE
>>102070043I don't understand what's weird about this.Do you guys not hotswap models?
>>102070121You can clearly see that 2 different guys started prompting at different hours
i dont get it just dont share your token?
the gcp claude key i scraped died after i spent all day erping yesterday... now what
>>102070129no?
>>102070121Using two different models =/= using them at the exact same time.
>>102070136use russian opus
>>102070043This is honestly retarded, it could be just some preset with double models, those exist.
>>102070043P-Post code i want to check my users
>>102070144this is just a part of it I think
>>102070141>evil opusno thanks
>>102070151Evil Opus correcting me for being bratty...
>>102070144idk im just posting the graphs she had on the rentry
>>102070043That's more than 12 hours straight, what the fuck.
Hi everynyan, Gojo here, please renew your Smol tokens today. Thank you.
>>102070139>he doesn't use one bot on his computer and another on his phoneNGMI
>>102070009Delusion, 3.5 sonnet has the best vision
>>102070169yeah ok this one is too obvious lmao it's literally 2 distinct prompters with different timezones
>>102070172You've never had the most glorious edge going and just didn't want it to end?
>>102070172are you blind? Where? The rising graph is only a bit before 18:00, then ~07:00 to ~09:00, and a tiny bit at ~13:00
yall never gooned for 12 hours straight?
>>102070186No im not a total loser i have a life
>>102070178I'm not delusional, anon, I just know the truth, I even benchmarked it myself. GPT-4o vision knows more characters, can recognize and describe real world stuff better. 3.5 Sonnet's vision is better at OCR though (especially in languages other than English + handwritten text).
>>102070192You are getting baited by a claudecuck
>>102070186I've slowburned most of the day once before but never actually coomed for that long
>>102070186I think the longest I've gone is about 18 hours when I was a teenager on MDMA.
>>1020700432 MILLION TOKENS IN LESS THAN AN HOURyou mininiggers have been eating good...
>>102070192>OCRthe fuck is that? >t. esl-kun
>>102070186No. My wrists are too fucked up for that.
>>102069542It means "masturbating." It's dumb internet zoomer slang for masturbating.
>>102070210text on an image to text as texst
>>102070207there is a reason everyone calls it the best proxy anonnette
>>102070210>first result on google is an answerchatbots make you retarded
>>102070210nvm, i asked sorbet
>>102070213Improve your technique bro..?
>>102070215thx>>102070223true
How are you all so wrong?Masturbating = Jerking offEdging = Jerking off near the edge without actually cummingGooning = Edging but maximum degeneracy, for example with 3 monitors all around you with a bunch of PMVs
>>102070225Yeah, that's not gonna help with the whole carpal tunnel syndrome thing.
>>102070192Ask it to explain this simple meme. Even regular vision gets it, 4o does not.
Should i confess or take the risk
>>102070240sorry for not being well versed in gooning lingo
>>102070178Wrong
>>102070240>3 monitors all around you with a bunch of PMVsI-Is this real
>>102070240okay what is Jelquing? No not Jerking but Jelquing
>>102070240>Gooning = Edging but maximum degeneracy, for example with 3 monitors all around you with a bunch of PMVsthat's my choice. also, where do i find good pmvs with anime girls? or it would be more correct to call that hmvs
>>102070243So you hand-picked one example at which 4o is worse, cool. What I said is still true though, it's better in general for vision than 3.5 sonnet.
>>102070214It's been around a lot longer than zoomers have been shitting up the internet, retard
>>1020702434o latest
>>102070240Is it bad that when I read "PMV", my first thought was "pony music video"?
>>102070280Horsefuckerbro...
>>102070192I don't believe you, 4o is so bad at recognising details about characters. It keeps guessing human characters for kemonomini characters. Even if Sorbet fails to find the characters, it describes them very well. Please show me this benchmark you've conducted or any proof indicating otherwise.>desukkidesu was handholding the entire time.>>102070276Show one case where 4o is better then?
>>102070278sorbet
W-Wait you anons don't have normal lives and chatbots aren't just a hobby for an hour or two?
>>102070284Former horsefucker. I've left those days behind me, but they've left a permanent hoofprint on my brain.
>>102070290Yeah we are like 10 years behind
>>102070293I have been alternating between checking these threads and working on my bots for the last 20 hours
>>102070293of course not they are my clutch in this unforgiving world
so the russians won? public opus with pow still werks without us
>>102070293it's like 50 50
>>102070276It's literally lines on a white background, if a model cannot recognise that then I'm sorry it is garbage. Even regular 4-vision/4-turbo get the correct answer.
>>102070217still cant believe I missed its first opening last year by minutes...
>>102070312>20milKeys die at either 25m 55m or 100m
>>102070318huh? mini's first opening? it was open for the first month if u just sent an email
>>102070320I should probably hop back on then...
>>102070329In august 2023? It wasnt though, it just had periodic openings that were very rare
I don't understand how anything with a pulse could ignore thishttps://exhentai.org/g/3032393/155896a1bb/
>>102070290I think your Sorbet is diluted, it gets it for me 4/4 swipes. Do you have any system prompt? I'm using "You are a smart and helpful assistant", no greeting for the sake of the test.
How does Jew do it? Seriously.His keys were dying left and right, now look...
>>102070262Jelqing is a specific penis massage performed in an outwards motion believed to increase penis size by tldr pushing blood to the head of the cock repeatedlyIn reality you're probably gonna damage your dick
>>102070351You helped him by saying that it's a meme and a reference
>>102070290Oh I see, it's the prompt. I explicitly mentioned meme so it answers a meme name. You just ask it to describe the image.>>102070370Yeah I see that now. Still gets it though.
>>102070381thankfully it works now
>>102070346god damn that was good
>>102070355fresh ip each time, preactivated keys, less coomers on his vip proxy etcit's probably a combination of factors
G-Guys...?
>>102070456>less coomers on vip>averages 18 active prompters
>>102070457Hi!
>>102070465haii
>>102070464yeah compared to fucking 60
cant khanon add a "proxy" system that just routes our requests through hf...
>>102070483bwo...
>>102070483hf is an unreliable service
>Online prediction request quota exceeded for anthropic-claude-3-opus. Please try again later with backoff.
>>102070286nta buthttps://desuarchive.org/g/thread/101464064/#101464400https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/101460244/#101463538https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/101464064/#101464455
thats new
>>102070483????????
>>102070483What would be the point of that?
>>102070483w-wait thats not totally stupid
>>102070516Masking the real ip I assume
>>102070506>mikoI can understand Taiga, but len or yae?
>>102070479He was averaging a bit over 20 on non-vip during opus anon
>>102070539>LenBig headphones + blond hair tied up
>>102070573always forget he has those desu
>mini randomly has opus>no way to know when without spamming requests and getting revoked
>>102070638nice way of reducing the usage desU
>>102070647they still get killed after like 3 hoursno point
Does mini have 4o-latest
ive always felt a lowly skyrim guard needed a card
Maybe it is a skill issue on my part but I feel like at least the Sonnets and GPT-4s aren't really there yet for CYOA stuff and such. I tried Pokemon RPG cards and one standard fantasy world thing and I have to wrangle it to get interesting replies. Not sure about Opus I don't want to waste my only source of it for that
>>102070709yeahas everything except opus (which is the only thing i want)and mistral i guess
SV1 here. I am doing some tests with a proxy, and we don't have enough anons to use the proxy completely, so I decide to give access to some of you too. To avoid spitefagging, the proxy uses a whitelist, now there's only Russian IPs. Email me and I will whitelist your IP range as well. Don't expect that it will be fast.https://rentry.org/Zm9yIHRoZSBtYWNoaW5lIGlzGltbW9ydGFs
>>102070761Are you the real SV1?
>>102070715Try something like:Perfect Play Princess Pastel Pink Plus from https://pikamansu.neocities.org/charactercardsPlay around with schizo prompts a bit more for option variety. I kinda feel that GPT4-0613 is a bit blander nowadays when it comes to schizo cards. Maybe it's just me.
>>102070761>email me with your ip address
>>102070761>annonium@proton.me>ziggers now need to beg aicg to shit on some random retardpathetic
>>102070761I've been using it all day already, thanks though
>>102070832as have I fellow \g\ posters
NTRanon, please tell me what is custom preset, special card, and cultivated log.
>>102070789Every email you send already contains your IP. I don't know why zoomers are so afraid of IP addresses.
>>102070783I don't like how eager Claude is to give you a GAME OVER with this card.
>>102070286>desu was handholding the entire time.So just asking a 3k token character "What do you see?" or "Where to?" every few messages for more than a hundred image prompts is handholding, but this>>102070351>>102070381is not? Got it.
So there still isn't Opus available except for that obvious troll russian one, is there?
>>102070973>obvious trollI mean that dude is trolling but the actual proxy really does have Opus.
>>102070987But nobody can get in it, right? Since it's Russian-only.
B-bread?
>>102070936https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/100891714/#100895431>a forest of some kind I guess?https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/100891714/#100895483>So dense I guess we have to go left nowTruth is, no matter what you do, your text prompt will give it some context. And without this context, all models will struggle equally, some more than others.>https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/100891714/#100895658>A maze?>general maze advice>Bad person!>Stay away, general maze advice>Another gate.>Go in!
>>102071019>he doesn't have a residential proxy with a russian ip/g/ btw
>>102068751https://rentry.org/pitanonbotshttps://rentry.org/pitanonpromptshttps://www.characterhub.org/characters/pitanon/ava-b0a8805e312c/mainhttps://files.catbox.moe/i8rbw8.pngUses this extension: https://github.com/splitclover/greeting-placeholdersAlso, an Anon sent me an edited version of my chatgpt-4o-lastest preset: https://files.catbox.moe/ocmrfq.json
>>102071072gateway general saar please forgive the needful
>>102071046>Truth is, no matter what you do, your text prompt will give it some contextWhat does "Describe this image" give to the model?
>>102070761>annonium@proton.melmao I wonder if that email can take any more beating at this pointlooking forward for him to post more of these pathetic begging faggots
>>102071104You don't ask half hearted questions like that.You think in realistic scenarios, as that's where these AI models are trained for.Describing the image will give you a simple description.If you want the AI to catch the reference, you will ask him to catch the reference. If you want him to guess who the character is, you will ask that.Doing otherwise is third worlder llm arena enthusiast behaviour, not actual use.
>>102071046Yeah, but the prompts didn't give it any context about the objects on the screen, especially the tiny ones, effects, or gameplay mechanics, just the game controls in the first message and questions. They also didn't improve its context recall ability in any way, which was actually the reason that "test" happened in the first place, because it was quickly falling apart with Claude. That was some extreme cherry picking, anon.Now, read the question in >>102070936 again, please.
>>102071104You're purposefully misconstructing my post but yes even that can influence the response. I want to say it's almost like a CoT, once you describe the image in words the model gets context for itself to make a guess on what it is. Compare a one-shot strict answer response and a "Describe the image and then take a guess" type situation. Though this behaviour is sometimes baked directly into the model or as a hidden prompt.
>>102070243That's basically a test on the knowledge of an obscure meme with a super short life (a lot of people know it but the timeframe in which it was recognizable by a tourist was maybe a few months long). If I never knew about it, I would never have guessed the connection.Obviously no model has all knowledge.
>150/229Wow only 12 more days...
>>102071179Techlet proxyowner, pls understand
>>102071186cockmail issue
4o censorship is weird.>no problem with vivid description of incest sex>pregnancy gets censored
>>102071190Anon, you do realize he could just use another mail provider, another mailbox, or even host his own mail server? So it is indeed a skill issue.
>>1020711734o has a smaller dataset, it's obvious just because 4turbo gets it, for example, but he tries to present it as evidence of 4o's inferior vision ability for some reason.
>>102071198>host his own mail serverUnsafe
>>102071186Ok but the dumbness makes her cute
>>102071199>4o has a smaller datasetNo, that's not how it works. 4o probably has a larger dataset than 4 turbo, it's just that the model itself is smaller. LLMs can't break laws of physics, so a smaller model can fit less real world knowledge.
Todd-bwos... How are we holding up?
>>102071221That's exactly what I meant, I'm very sleepy, sorry.
>>102071150https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/100891714/#100895543It recognised the small frog in this one, that's great. I can't see your prompt for this one though.See here again:https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/100899557/#100906451>Is it the sky?>Is that a bridge?>A suspicious treeRegarding the loss test, the first one is adding context on what type of answer you are looking for ("meme reference"). The second gives no direct hints but is basically the same as "Try again" or "this is supposed to mean something".But I see your point, desukki was about retaining that info over longer contexts. Maybe 4o is better at it, I haven't tried that. I just speak from my experience with 4o's vision. Then it was my bad to bring it up in this context.>>102071173>Loss>Obscure4o knows about it well enough, it just can't recognise it.
When people say to send logs, do they mean the funny ones, the fluffy ones, the unhinged ones or the hot and dirty ones?
>>102071223Who is Todd?
yosuke-hanamura-default-sprite
>>102071262Any logs.
sv1's opus feels weird somehow. do {{system}} prompts make that much of a difference?
Smol-bwos... How are we holding up?
>>102071198>use another mail providerCock.li is the best one and she also uses tuta and proton. Both have limits but better>another mailboxFiz is already dealing with 3 mailboxes >host his own mail serverIdk abt this one nobody else is doing it so it's probably a bad idea?
>>102071282>is the best oneexcept that it's not? it's just meme-worthy with funny domains so people use it, the limits are atrocious.>Idk abt this one nobody else is doing it so it's probably a bad idea?it just requires not being a techlet to set it up properly, + a domain of course
>>102071265too big
If I mistakenly use a different password for a proxy while connecting, does the other proxy owner get to see/store my token.
Fiz actually replied to me almost one month later kek
>>102071301Yes, but it's hard to do accidentally nowadays because ST has separate proxy configuration
>>102071301On khanon fork(everyone is using it except todd and drago) no but a random unknown shady endpoint yes
>>102071307so i can send some mean things to fiz without needing to wait for her to reply to my mails? lel
>>102071320You could just use her discord for that...
>>102071320she isn't reading the auth headers on a rejected request anon
>>102071301No, are you a retard?
>>102071307>Yes, but it's hard to do accidentally nowadays because ST has separate proxy configurationo-oh...>>102071315good to know. I think I sent one my private token to unreliable but I guess I can trust him
The proxy was restarted after 7 days uptime and 1B tokens generated to remove a low-tier single Anthropic key (since the others were revoked), AWS Claude still works fine. When that AWS key dies, I do have more of both Scale Anthropic keys and AWS keys and will refill.
>>102071272i dont feel that something's wrong
>>102071271Even if they're boring?
sv1 still intact shows how much of a techlet 'ojo is jesus christ
>>102071262>>102071345Any logs.
cooming is too expensive
>>102071339smolpi
>>102069020Suicidal clarity is hormonal not rational.>>102069041To irritate you.>>102069135Chub
>>102071345Yes. Any logs.As a botmakie, I have never been unhappy to see a log of one of my bots.
>>102071362stop using more than 28k context
>>102071349'ojo is a retard in general.The pebble riddle thing made him look smarter than he was, but the moment a riddle couldn't be solved with a google search, he had to throw in the towel.
>>102071261>desukki was about retaining that info over longer contextsIt was.If I knew someone would dissect my lazy promptless let's play together roleplay with gpt stretching 1k tokens of short shitty examples for 70k context, looking for handholding, whatever that means in this context, then I wouldn't give it any "hints" at all, I guess, but I was trying to have fun.Both 3.5 and 4o have their own strengths for different prompts and situations, including vision, and especially for canon characters. Sometimes 4o is a lot more precise, sometimes Sonnet recognizes something that 4o couldn't. I'm not the one who did that benchmark in >>102070506 but I had tons of experience with them, believe me.
>>102071414no
>https://rentry.org/miniproxy>#3 m*xxieerm?
>>102071282>Idk abt this one nobody else is doing it so it's probably a bad idea?you need a new vps(cuz it leaks IP), a new domain and also there is a high chance of ur domain getting blocked by proton
>>102071411gib chub for log.
>>102071444>Price for a token is 625 dollars.
>>102071265is this down?
minibros, our response?
>>102071511where did you come from
>>102071523your mother's bedroom
>>102071442That was not my intention. Have fun, otherwise it's all fucking pointless, and for that you need to prompt. Even in regular RP you need to spell things out or the model can't connect the dots. Just from a vision perspective, I find 4o subpar and when discussing that aspect of the chat, desukki would be a bad example because you were spelling out most things in the image. The rest could be inferred from context (like getting the witch effect probably means Mado can turn into a witch). Someone was bound to bring it up so I dismissed it for those reasons first. Please don't take it the wrong way desu, let Suiseiseki play the damn game!!Those benchmarks are flawed because Claude has an anti-copyright injection (in the screenshot, most replies for Sorbet are refusal or just describing a non distinguishable anime character) which I suppose you should take into account since that is the only way to access the model right now. He could have tested with better prefills or prompts but I don't remember any follow-ups.>Both 3.5 and 4o have their own strengths for different prompts and situations, including vision, and especially for canon characters.I'll agree on that but I still believe 4o is a scam, it's a downgrade from Furbo, both in text instruct and vision.
How do you feel about alternate greetings where the relationship is already established?e.g. The first greeting is when they first meet and second greeting is when they're already married, opening to a different struggle and relationship dynamic.
>>102071565pretty cute
>>102071565I just play along if I care about the character.Instant deletion if I don't.
baking
>>102071565I like it. I've done a card where it was like 1) just met 2) few days into relationship (not intimate)3) few weeks into relationship (not intimate)4) few weeks into relationship (coomer start)and I liked it a lot. Having an even longer timespan is a neat idea.
>>102071513is that smol or what
>>102071559I did test with different prefills/prompts yet 3.5 Sonnet was consistently at about 30% compared to 50% for 4o, and I used AWS which does NOT have any copyright prefills. Anyway, I'm not sure why it was brought up in this context, it doesn't exactly test vision, it tests their datasets used for vision.
just woke up
>>102071614>>102071614>>102071614miku
>>102071559Yeah.Don't worry about it. And I will.>He could have tested with better prefills or prompts but I don't remember any follow-ups.He did IIRC, he started to use XML like in the other screenshot.>it's a downgrade from Furbo, both in text instruct and vision.It is. Though latest is nice so far, but I need to test it some more, not just chat with it using a Sonnet prompt. 4o in general is better for chatting than the previous models from my experience.
>>102071598>and I used AWS which does NOT have any copyright prefillsAWS also has the copyright injection (it's a prompt not a prefill) since Claude 3. Unless you had some special key without it. I can't reproduce it right now, skill issue maychance, but it was definitely a thing a few months ago. It's also much harder to detect now with system prompt obscurification but you can notice it in the response with the wording Claude uses every single time "identity specific individuals". It can identify characters usually with prefills but is hesitant to do so, the same Claude 2.1 problem. Which of course still makes that use case useless.>>102071634I couldn't cure 4o's writing, it's so bench-tuned to be coherent that you can't be schizo stylish with it and it's too dumb to do something clever on its own. The smarter they get, the less sovl they have it seems.
5min 13sUnreliable bros... I'm not feeling too good...
>today's pics on desuarchive are 404'ddesu'd
Eeehhh
what pics?
true desu
A lot of random pics desu.
desu couldn't sleep, but desu will try some more desu.
Have a good desu desu.
Good night desu, I hope you have sweet dreams.
