>systemd

>>102087644
And it just werks

Valve is contributing huge dollars to arch linux developers because of steamOS and linux is taking off with valves deck being a massive multi million success.

Linux gaming is officially better than windows in most areas outside muh fortnite. Apex is already on steam, everything good is on steam.

Once you see, you cannot unsee

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no, thanks.

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>>102087623
>Requires you to go through all of this
>https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Installation_guide
>No thanks anon.

>>102087669
If you are subhuman maybe

>>102087700
/thread

>>102087702
Archinstall takes 6 minutes with a 10mb/s internet connection.

I guarantee windows takes longer. By the time windows even installs to the setup screen I already have multilib enabled and 8 programs installing simultaneously

 sudo pacman -S keepassxc corectrl chromium krita steam 

>>102087623
>fixes your distro hopping permanently
Based on the behaviour I've observed on this board and other places, I'm convinced that distro hopping is a sign of autism.
So no, a distro cannot "fix" your distro hopping, because the real problem is your damaged brain.

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>>102087702
Meanwhile, on windows, your taskbar promotes sodomy.

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>>102087623
Ahh yes, the niche distro for freeloaders and gatekeepers who can't admit they do alpha/beta testing straight into an unstable release model by design.

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No need to distrohop. All OSes and distros are good for something. Just depends on what you need each one for. My ancient Macbook Air needs as much overhead as it can get, so arch is pretty decent for that.

>>102087700
and how much time do you have to spend when you get a virus or things start breaking in windows.

>>102087795
Uh yeah it's totally owned by user friendly alternatives. Your AI is retarded. You should ask it why you are gay man.

https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam

>>102087623
just install nixos, literally good for 99% of the people. only thing i couldn't get working was my specific ide for embedded shit. literally comfiest distro ever by a landslide

>>102087878
also fuckin servers, so comfy and easy to configure and deploy over and over again and rollback if needed

[spoiler]reasons_why_rolling_distros_are_the_best.tar.xz[/spoiler]

>>102087644
which is why artix exists

>>102087878
NixOS is okay, has performance problems with KDE like slow folder opening and the package managing isn't standardized so you run into problems with programs.

Arch is the standard valve went with for a reason, It's a lot stabler and light weight.

>>102088143
arch was easier to set up and ship out to the masses. they already knew linux, didnt want to look for nix devs. idk what your KDE is doing but never had problems like that.

>>102087623
for me it's ubuntu

>>102088232
It was a problem with Plasma 5 on NixOS when I tried it.

Folders opened about a second slower. Not a big deal really for most, but as a turbo autist by using the desktop I could just feel arch was about 5-10% faster in speed compared to NixOS.

I left ultimately because it was a pain to fucking setup a program I wanted.

>it just works
no it doesnt

>>102087623
>fixes your distro-hopping permanently
true for me
>gives you a lightweight system with nothing installed
true for me
>gives you the latest drivers for gaming and just works because the steam deck is arch based and uses its drivers
true for me
>plasma 6 is bare bones
kde is shit and have always crashed on me and i am not making this shit up. gnome however is stable as fuck, even their beta version which I am on right now. fuck kde and kde shills. fuck you eat shit nigger
>file picker just werks
you have to fiddle on firefox's about config for it to work. thumbnails aren't on by default on gnome. it is what it is.
>everything just WERKS
true for me

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>>102087623
Just use Fedora KDE/Kubuntu like a normal person.
I only use Arch because I hate myself.

>>102087844
0 if you have a brain. Windows doesn't break, it will only break if you "debloat" things you shouldn't.

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>>102087623
You turn into a faggot though

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>>102088298
>gnome however is stable as fuck
Ebussy meme is more than enough to dissuade me from ever touching it.
LXQt is ugly but it's good enough.

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>>102088464
I think ebussy will crumble under the pressure. They have brought back system tray icons. (but it doesn't work right now.)
All we (I) need now is a default dock on it for it to be golden.

>>102088395
Wayland turned him into faggot not Arch.

>>102087844
>nooo don't use Windows or MacOS those are non free systems!!!
>if you don't enter some bullshit into the terminal, you will get a virus with the next system update
No wonder why only poorfags with >10 year old laptops use linACKs

>>102087623
thats not the best arch version aka CachyOS

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>>102087623
It's just too comfy to leave.

>>102090059
stableCHAD

>>102087623
yeah but im a lazy faggot so i went with manjaro instead. close enough and any case better than debian which sometimes lags behind even in the ultra broken experimental repo. only thing i miss from debian is working dpms. for some reason my monitors insta wakeup from standby and there appears to be solutions only for nvidia gpus. i believe it has to do with that stupid hdmi hotplug thing not being handled like usually

>>102087623
>Arch Linux has an installer now, you just do "pacman -S Sy" and then "archinstall"
What did he mean by this?

>>102087623
Arch is definitely one of the best, and it actually works even if you don't really care about your os, just use something arch-based with preinstalled de and gui package manager if you are scared of terminal.
But I tried nixos and can't even think of returning to imperative package management.

>>102087655
Where is my league of legends, anon?
Not even all my porn mods on Skyrim work on Linux.

>>102087655
Cool. Say, does it work with an older Nvidia gpu or is this all assuming amd?

>>102090431
yikes

>>102088329
Come on nigger, every update is a death sentence on that piece of shit. It broke on me at least thrice, that stinky garbage OS, with NO intervention mind you.
It just breaks™

Hi frens, linux mint newbie here. I am on Linux Mint 21 and I am considering moving to EndeavourOS in a few months and I just wanna know how you guys find it. How often do you guys update?

>update once
breaks

>>102087623
i'll never go back to GNU+Systemd/Linux

>>102087623
>>plasma 6 is bare bones
it's also broken dogshit for retards. I don't understand why everyone denies that GNOME won, by a lot.

>>102090431
>Where is my league of legends, anon?
Linux is for chads, not cucks like you.

>>102088329
>Windows doesn't break
what delusional universe do you live in?
did you forget the whole ESP drama, the part where an update deleted people's files?
I had to nuke my win10 vm just to install win11 because the upgrade failed (and yes my VM passed all the Win11 preflight checks including TPM, secureboot, etc).

For me it's Artix, the greatest distro ever conceived

>>102090881
Unless you have a very solid reason to do so, there's nothing wrong with Linux Mint.

>>102091480
I just want more customization and I do not like cinnamon. I dont like how LM is heading anyway.

>>102091566
Just avoid KDE like a plague and everything will be gucci.
I recommend EndeavorOS because archinstall doesn't install printer stuff by default.

>>102091662
Why avoid KDE? I thought it was the most well rounded?

>>102091672
More like most bloated.

>>102087623
>Update bricks your install because the devs are busy huffing paint rather than testing things
Nothing personal kid

>>102091672
It looks pretty but whether you will get hit with a OS breaking bugs or not in a future update is a coin flip.

>>102087737
"distro hopping" is a thing for unemployed people doesn't have nothing to do, only fapping the entire day for some shit pedo content.

This resume loonix users from 4chan

>>102091799
ok jeet

>>102087824
>xfce
based

>>102091672
because it's a buggy mess
>fire up KDE6 this morning
>10 notifications telling me something something plasma-whatever crashed
>unlock screen
>dock crashes
>weird lag in video games that drop FPS to like 10FPS for a solid 10 seconds for some reason

GNOME is just better. I know some faggots will seethe, but it's truth. GNOME literally just works. If you are obstinate retard like >>102088464 then you're NGMI anyway so I don't care what you use. You'd be in the same camp of retards shitting themselves in rage about systemd and other tech for completely arbitrary and off-topic reasons.

>>102091200
Nah, DragonFlyBSD is for chads. Linux is for regular Joes now.

>>102091753
Elaborate please?

>>102092216
Wow, one of my itches for moving towards EndeavourOS from Mint is that I wanted to use KDE over boring cinnamon.

What game mind I ask? I used to play teardown and it would get really bad lag spikes but when I did a reinstall of the OS it was fine so...

>>102092431
>Elaborate please?
KDE 6.0 update broke the lockscreen. Every time my computer went to sleep mode, I stuck on a black screen with only the visible mouse pointer until I restart.
I didn't experience the infamous Krash so far but this is more than enough for me to switch DE.

>>102087700
>he doesn't use RSS for everything
cringe

>>102087700
5 years on arch here, pacman -Syu has broken my machine ONCE because the package jannies fucked up some versions and i happened to update at the exact wrong time before they fixed it
it just werks

>>102092589
Wonderful, I really wanna move to EndeavourOS

yup. i tried mint, ubuntu, fedora, and endeavour os redpilled me on arch.eventually i just did archinstall and had do configure some stuff myself by reading the wiki but no problems since

Thanks but I’m sticking with mint

>>102087795
>GPT
Didn't read.

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>>102087623
Based, thanks Arch.
Please continue the same and i'll be using it until death. No need to change.
Maybe there are other init systems that would be better and more minimalistic but only time systemd bothers me is when it hangs before poweroff (pic related).
Well done, all the developers and mantainers, it truly is a beautiful, customizable, lightweight, powerful distro.

>>102087623
>>everything just WERKS
>updates
>breaks steam
>have to install everything over again
Yeah no

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Fuck corporate systemd octopus, also picrel

>fixes your distro-hopping permanently
I've got Arch on my old Thinkpad and it's easily my least favorite distribution of all the distributions I use across my various PCs.
>gives you a lightweight system with nothing installed
you can get a minimal debian install with something in the ballpark of 200 packages if you use the netinstall ISO, same goes with OpenSUSE Tumbleweed; and you can get similar results from NixOS, Gentoo, Void, and Slackware. This is not unique to Arch.
>gives you the latest drivers for gaming and just works because the steam deck is arch based and uses its drivers
I also get the latest drivers on my OpenSUSE Tumbleweed gaming rig.
>plasma 6 is bare bones
I can achieve similar effect with the Tumbleweed NET ISO; although I chose not to because I like Tumbleweed's stock configuration for Plasma.
>file picker just werks
As it does on every Plasma 6 desktop.
>everything just WERKS
As it does on most distributions, especially those that run Plasma.

What's your point, archtranny?
You still lack any kind of support model that I get from SUSE, and you don't even compile your system like you get to on Gentoo. It's like Gentoo for people who can't install Gentoo but want to feel like hipsters who don't use a "normie" distro. It's for tinker trannies.

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>>102087623
>distrohop from Fedora because want to compile programs with an official solution instead of relying on flatpaks
>stable distro to unstable
>justify it as "I'll just fix whatever problem the maintainers give me"
>still hasn't broken once
>actually a bit upset I haven't needed to fix anything
Arch SUCKS

>>102090334
Nixos is excellent until its not. You are extra comfy with singular repo managing all of your machines and producing whatever images, but some extremely particular usecase pops up and you're stuck scrolling through nixpkgs repo looking for answers like a caveman.
>just use whatever dev containers
then why the fuck i installed nixos in the first place?
Still sticking with it, out of everything i've tried i like it the most. I do hope that nixos documentation reaches heights of archwiki someday though.

>>102087623
It's shit. Mint solved desktop. You can't have a computer where it's possible to turn it on one day and it just won't start. Or having to spend hours debugging incel error messages... Maybe one time you are working to a schedule and can't afford this.

>>102087623
>no library versioning
straight in the bin.

all of this except it's MX Linux

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>>102088395
correct

>>102096767
yup, arch never broke for me, once i configured some of what i wanted it just works.
>>102095466
hasnt happened to me but maybe because i update often

>systemd
no thank you

>>102087795
>computer generated hallucination
I'm not gonna read your garbage

>>102087623
>Arch
>lightweight
lmao

>>102088258
Oh shiiiit oh SNAP!

>>102098706
>uptime 1 min
>network wifi
stfu poser, you don't even use linux

>>102087700
t. uses gentoo which has the same fucking shit except you run "eselect news"

even debian has manual intervention notes

>>102099529
dats my stinkpad dummy

>>102098706
Larper. You actually use Windows or MacOS like every other troon. You just larp as a Linux user for attention. Be gone

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>muh latest
>muh outdated
kys

>>102099622
it's pathetic that you only login to screenshot your terminal

>>102099667
That's literally all these tranny lapers do on Linux. They login, run neofetch or hyfetch, screenshot, then post the screenshot on Reddit for updoots because it's the only thing preventing them from hanging themselves

>>102099667
cry about it

>>102099681
Very accurate

>>102099681
ummmm actually it's fastfetch noww sweetie

>>102087824
>linux on a macbook
extremely based.

>>102099753
uhhh... why should i? you don't have to seek out for social acceptance for these things, i don't think anybody cares. just be yourself and don't lie about it because it's just going to make you seem bad. i hope you learned something

>>102088329
>100% disk usage

>install arch with archinstall
>spend comfy morning configuring some stuff to my liking
>install yay
>install update notifier
> update before i get off everyday or every few days
max comfy no issues since.

>>102100099
i like that you have a lot of control over your updates. i just do it every week.

>>102087623
yep it was my first and last choice

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>>102087644
hi Quinlan

>>102091086
>>102091738
dated meme

>>102091147
broken dogshit (on nvidia)

>>102091389
>>102096315

>fartix

>>102099330
light enough to run games retard

Arch is a niche distro, not to be taken seriously, it's 30 freeloaders putting automated scripts and telling people to do their work with the AUR

>>102100192
>Arch is a niche distro, not to be taken seriously
Why did Valve, a multi-billion dollar company, take it seriously?

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>>102087623
>mount your partitions
>connect with iwd
>install the packages you need
How is that so hard for people?
>>102090431
>LoL
>Skyrim porn
You shouldn't even be using a computer, you should be using a Fisher Price toy you fucking clown.

>>102087623
>plasma 6 is bare bones
KDE Plasma is "bare bones" if you're retarded. The only cool way to use Arch is with no GUI and only a window manager. With this browser open right now, I'm using exactly 1GB of RAM.

>>102099681
It is surreal when you notice the uptimes in the desktop threads. Either its less than an hour, or a laptop they leave on all the time.

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oh fuck!
all these posts and im just realizing now i posted the wrong image

>>102091828
t.loonixuser

>>102100238
because gaben inserts three cocks in his ass every single day, that's why

>>102100238
They sell an unstable platform in order to be first on such platform, freeloading upstream dependencies to fix fast.
It's ok, once they reach an stable release on most dependencies they will base SteamOS on a more stable distro. Also, they sell DRM games, not enterprise software, stability is not a priority.

>>102087623
ive been with arch for almost 15 years. when i installed on my laptop i just went with manjaro. im to a point where im done tinkering on an exploration level. my main machine will always be my ancient install of vanilla arch because it just keeps rolling. but newer installs i just want to shit and get, so i go for manjaro

>>102087623
Alpine does all of this better.

>>102087655
>a massive multi million success
What a load of garbage not even ganben fagboys believe that.

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For me, it's arch with plasma 6.

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>>102087644
When FP itself is BP

>>102103044
Girl's name please?

I dont understand why people dont use arch with plasma 6. When OP says it comes barebones it really does.

It doesn't even come with gwenview, okular or kcalc.

It comes with the absolute base but that's it.

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>>102103091
tatsuro yamashita. she has nudes.

>>102087623
>*shits itself if you dont update for months*
>>102090059
The issue with Debian is the lack of just-werks. The documentation is fucking horrible and outdated, APT leaves out optional dependencies that pacman would install, and on new releases you randomly get packages uninstalled cause no package janny picked it up yet.

>>102100556
> you're using it wrong
Fuck off.

>>102099681
Thats fucking hilarious lol

>>102087644
it just werks, IDIOT. MEDS NOW

>>102090059
Debian has older mesa drivers, and its old. This can mean up to 25% performance loss. It's shown on mint that the drivers make you lose lots of performance.

Maybe for grandma its okay but honestly somebody should just make a read only lightweight arch distro similar to steamOS where it runs on flatpaks so we can ditch debian based distros

Arch is so stable nowadays I don't see why anyone would want to use anything else.

>>102104613
>Arch
>stable

>>102104613
>Debian has older mesa drivers
juse use flatpak steam ffs

>Arch is so stable nowadays I don't see why anyone would want to use anything else.
it is until you don't update for a month

>>102105015
>until you don't update for a month
Don't do this then?
Most distros work fine unless you don't upgrade them ever, what's your problem?

>>102087824
Is your battery performance the same as it was on OS X? How's the trackpad gestures?