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LMAOing @ wintoddlers

>AMD cpus get free fps boost
How much seething are we going to get from the arrow lake hopium huffers?

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What are those niggers at EVGA doing now that they stopped selling graphics cards?

>>102094777
Year of the linux desktop is when you can just run every game trough some shitty translation layer and it still outperforms whatever windows ships. Slowly getting there.

i already have the parts. basically i have a 5900x in my pc and a 5600g in my unraid server.
im upgrading soon and am throwing the 5900x build into a fractal ridge case.
my question is. how much of a performance hit will i take if i instead take the 5600g out of the server and put it into the fractal ridge build instead? basically swap the cpus between them. i will have an easier time cooling the 5600g in that case and the server would do better with the extra cores. the gpu that is being used in the ridge build is a 4070.
looking online it seems like its a negligible difference between the two as far as gaming goes.

>>102095458
it's about 20% down

Are ITX AM5 B650 or better boards basically just unobtanium

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Jewfus AMD redemption arc? This is big

So my AOC monitor broke after 5 years of use and now looking for a decent reliable 27" 1440p monitor that might last as long or more, whats the go-to nowadays?
I have some 15 year old Dell monitors that still work without issues so Im tempted to find something Dell, but really I have no idea.

Gigabyte 27" M27Q?
Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQ?

>>102095587
Forgot to mention, under 300 bucks, hence those suggestions

>>102095587
Read OP

>>102095587
>>102095605
Buy the cheapest 1440p144 ips slop if you are a homosexual
I'd you are based wait 20 days and buy the ASUS 27" ROG Swift PG27AQDP

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7-7700x-9700x-gain-10-gaming-performance-with-windows-11-24h2-intel-users-also-set-to-benefit
Why are Intel & AMD architectures designed to work best in least safe OS states possible?

>>102095502
hmmmmm. since the ridge build will be going in the living room to a 4k tv idk if that hit is worth it. thank you anon.

>>102095587
>>102095605
>Under $300
Best options are the Dell G2724D & ASRock PG27QFT2A
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vyqrxr/dell-g2724d-270-2560-x-1440-165-hz-monitor-g2724d
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/dell/g2724d

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/N2cgXL/asrock-pg27qft2a-270-2560-x-1440-180-hz-monitor-pg27qft2a
https://tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/asrock-phantom-gaming-pg27qft2a
All other models tend to be either more expensive, offer less performance, or both. The AsRock is slightly cheaper but doesn't come with an sRGB Mode so OoB Colors won't be quite as accurate.

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>>102095559
Redemption..

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can someone please decode this for my dumb ass? I'm trying to understand what I'm looking at for m.2 slots on a motherboard.

>>102095975
2260, 2280 etc essentially refer to length of the drive the slot supports. E key is same sort of deal (its chibi).

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>>102095975
the number refers to the length of the card

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>>102096008
I see.
I'm looking at another board and it lists 3 slots as 2280, is that just a quirk of whoever listed the board on pcpartpicker, and the longer length slots support lower length, or is this board specific in that it can support shorter m.2 along with longer ones?

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>>102096039
It may not have the standoff holes. I would tell you to look at pictures but conveniently many boards have the holes hidden by the included heatsink

>>102096057
I gotcha! Okay so it's for the mounting screws, I had a fundamental misunderstanding there.

Thank you to all the kind anons who explained.

>>102096124
don't trust pcpartpicker, check the manufacturer's website

>>102094821
Holy shit, is that true? Does it apply to my 7600?

>>102095975
The number is actually just the size of the m.2 device, for instance 2280 is 22mm wide by 80mm long, 2230 is 22mm by 30mm and so on. The key is how the slot is keyed, as in there are a few pins replaced by plastic so only compatible m.2 devices can go in that slot (kind of the same how different RAM types are keyed differently so you cannot put the wrong module in the wrong slot). I don't remember what all the different key types are for, pretty sure M-key is the typical you want for NVMe SSDs, I believe E-key is used for shit like BT and WiFi modules and such but I'm not sure.

>>102096201
Should do.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlfTHCzBnnQ

>>102095975
>>102096008
>>102096008
>>102096035
you can put shorter drives into longer slots, but the opposite is not true

>>102096225
Insane, lemme create a partition and try it out.

>>102095975
>can someone please decode this for my dumb ass? I'm trying to understand what I'm looking at for m.2 slots on a motherboard.
4 nvme slots, 1 wifi card slot

Does the following MoBo exist?
>removable CPU
>MXM slot
>CAMM slot
>M.2 slot(s)
>can mount into ATX or mATX or ITX or DTX or FlexATX case

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>>102094754

>>102096229
>you can put shorter drives into longer slots*
*assuming the longer slot has the screw / retaining mechanism holes for all the shorter standards, which is usually the case but not always.

>>102096321
You forgot your red text. Plz fix and resubmit.

>>102095422
>Year of the linux desktop
Is when they can get past anti cheat restrictions.
>justdontplaythatslop
No, I'm an addict.

>>102094754
OPs from now on should drop the Asrock PG27QFT2A from the list, it's decisively inferior to the Dell G2724D for example. Still a good purchase if you want a budget 1440p 27'' though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L97Ak-VfqGY

>>102096225
>windows 10 won't get this update
It's joever
still not updating

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>>102096540
windows 10 doesn't need the update

>>102096526
It tends to be cheaper than the Dell and at this low bracket, that can be the difference in someone staying on 1080p or not.

>>102096557
? That doesn't show shit relating to 24h2

>>102096586
That highly depends on the pricing. I'd say if the Dell is like 5% more expensive or less, then buy the Dell.

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>>102096367
Hot and spicy

>>102094754
So will Zen 5 actually be worth it with 24H2?

>>102096728
Not at current pricing because Zen4 will get the same improvements

>>102096619
Insider build 10.0.26100 is the preview of 24H2

Current build
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Z3yFz6

Looking for a monitor recommendation. Primary use is gaming, so something with decent refresh rate and response time would be nice.

>>102096749
MSI MPG 321URX

>>102096526
I've heard Dell's secret panel swaps of the G2724D really ruined the contrast for newer models, which was a big appeal. I think it's better to wait for the same reviewer to check out both of those so we have a baseline comparison, since they each use different methodologies.

what's the current equivalent to a Ryzen 5 3600/GTX1660 build in 2020

>>102096967
7600/

>>102096983
6700xt

>>102096526
>antenna
>audio
>better contrast
>has a BFI feature (even if mediocre)
>slightly higher refresh rate (with worse response time, but not hugely)
Dunno, the Dell does quite a few things better, but I'd say it's easy to argue someone would prefer this one over the G2724D, especially since it tends to be cheaper.

>>102094850
Selling the finest power supplies.

hey I want a legit opinion. not some /g/ memes.

is it a good time to buy intel?

video editing, gaming and VR is my main purpose.

>>102094821
There's always Bartlett Lake.

>>102097054
yeah the 12400 is solid and super fun to overclock
the 12100 and N100 are good too
wait for arrow lake

>>102097054
It's unironically one of the worst times to buy Intel in years.

>>102097054
Wait for Bartlett Lake.

>>102096983
>>102096992
thanks anon

>>102096967
R5 5600 + RTX 3060 or RTX 4060

>>102097082
>estrogen cores

>>102097113
>>102097088
>>102097082
>wait
>wait

perhaps its AMD time?

>>102097140
If you like their offerings, go for it.

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>>102097054
Yeah, it's a good time to buy Intel stock.

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>>102097127
cope

>>102097170
>second gen i5
What is this proving?

>>102097140
The OP is right there. 7950X is a good choice, bump down to 7600 if you want better value.

>>102097162
>she thinks this is the bottom
lol

>>102097219
did you see the arrow lake leaks

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>>102097162
>>102097219

>>102097219
>she
Sorry to disappoint, but I'm cis male and identify as such. I don't use Intel after all.

>>102097057
That won't be mainstream if it even becomes a product.

reminder to download free performance on AMD by getting 24H2

https://uupdump.net/fetchupd.php?arch=amd64&ring=rp

(it's the windows files, avoid the insider program shit with this iso)

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What a massive improvement! AMD and Intel are really doing a great job alongside Microsoft. :)

>>102097286
And?

>>102097299
windows 10 is faster

>>102097299
why should i get pro over iot ltsc?

>>102097325
nah, not even close

>>102097328
No reason, IoT LTSC is the one you always want to get. The less bloat the better.

>>102097325
Windows 7 is faster yet.

>>102097328
you dont have to install pro I just did 23h2 home -> 24h2 home, games are faster (only tested cyberjank) on a 7800x3D. def more frames w/ path tracing.

if you are on win10 this isnt even needed, thanks MS for "fixing" your bloat.

I banged on my non working monitor for some time before pressing buy on the new one and now works. Crisis averted for another day bros, Ill be sure to come back soon and ask again.

>>102097122
thanks to you as well!

>>102095587
AOC Q27G3XMN is great if you can handle the bad viewing angle

>>102097338
yes but it's unusable now sadly
>>102097333
prove it

>>102097363
see >>102097300
windows 10 was never 35% ahead of windows 11

that simple, you're wrong

>>102097367
see my balls windows fag
post a bench or fuck off

>>102097384
mad cause wrong, many such cases
cope

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>>102097363
>it's unusable now sadly
Says who?

>>102094754
I saw an RX 7900XTX for $610 on Amazon the other day

>>102097324
Meaning it is useless for a video game use case.

>>102097054
No. Intel CPUs (13th and 14th gen) have literally been degrading and failing at stock Intel settings. They've released an update which allegedly fixes it but it hasn't been that long since it came out and it's unclear at this point how effective it is, or if it actually stops degradation or merely slows it down to the point of the CPUs failing when they're out of warranty.

I wouldn't buy Intel for several years at this point, it takes time to see where the degradation problem actually stands and I wouldn't trust any new CPUs they release either until they prove once again that they can make reliable hardware. Like I said, that will take years.

>>102097404
Does that mean Threadrippers are useless too?

you know there is a non zero chance that Microsoft kneecapped AMD chips on purpose to cover for Intel.
>7800x3D was still faster with weights on

>>102097423
Mostly yes as well - they nearly always are clocked lower than ryzen.

Are the RX 7600 and R5 9600X good? I have a 980 and 4790k.

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Reposting from /sqt/:
I have an AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D 8-core, it overheats like crazy when I try to play almost anything now. It didn't do this before, but lately it's just been completely BSODing or just outright shutting my computer down. I've swapped out the heatsink & replaced it with a liquid cooling system. It helped a little bit, but if I still try to run something as strenuous as Warthunder of all things my CPU overheats. Other than undervolting or buying a new CPU, what can I do to alleviate this? I'm going to attempt to reseat the liquid cooling system's connector & all, but I'm just losing it, bros.

>>102097538
if I were a baller and needed a new computer I would opt for the 7700 non X

>>102097486
AMDelusional conspiracy theories
You can see that both Ryzen and Core have a similar uplift in anon's chart >>102097300

>>102097538
>RX 7600
Garbage. If you're in that budget, get the R5 5600 and a better GPU

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>>102097707
>Hard Ware Un Boxed
buddy...

>>102097719
>better GPU
What do you recommend?

>>102097486
remember that even with weights, rock lee was still faster than sasuke at the start of the chunin exam.

>>102097757
pure performance still wins even if you make it 5-10% slower

>>102097739
Personally, 4070 Super. But if that's out of your budget, RTX 3060 or RTX 4060, depending. They have their pros and cons. If your monitor is as old as your 980, you likely desperately need a monitor upgrade as well. Adaptive sync is foundational to modern gaming

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so the jeets finally optimized Windows?

>>102097795
>4070 Super
I want to go AMD for the first time since I use Linux too now.
>If your monitor is as old as your 980
My monitor is newer, I have VRR but I can't use it with this GPU.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/t7g36D
Anywhere to minimize? I am coming from an i7 3770k and 1070 ti
Idk what storage is best price point to stability, I need a lot from modding bloat and when I start using megascans in UE or something stupid
I think I am switching to linux mint and maybe dual booting.. idk I want to play Arma 3 in extreme fidelity finally and a bunch of other war games, does anyone know if I can totally ditch windows 10 finally? I also use davinci resolve, UE5, and have language and imagegen tasks to do..

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>>102097595

>>102097896
>davinci resolve
kdenlive

i have 2500 dollars after selling my old 6900xt build, shill me a pcpartpicker build at this price point.

>>102097920
>kdenlive
I haven't seen that yet but maybe I will look, resolve is so impressively fast and has everything I've ever needed, I do rendering as a side hobby in case as I am more still photography
But I do cut up gaming videos from time to time of highlights I save

>>102097906
I guess that really is it then. Third time's the charm...

>>102097962
Which downs syndrome mother did you scam

>>102097962
If you like Nvidia here's one
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FDsKYN

Is a 2070S worth it for 170 CAD?
Looking at the used market

>>102098131
Windforce is ass, ASUS TUF Gaming is better

>>102098199
I had one that was noisy just before the fans would shut off on idle. I forgot when i added that to the list

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>>102097973
If its neither of these things and the cooler is powered/plugs are put in the correct places on the board AND you still have overheating issues. Then chances are that the problem goes beyond the cooler (considering you've already replaced it) and onto the board or PSU.

>>102097962
Imagine spending $2,500 on an AMD build. Stupid nigger moment. 100% you sold it to a black or brown.
With that budget I'd wait for Arrow Lake-S/BLACKEDwell because they're right around the corner and this is one of the rare occasions where actually waiting will be really worth it.
Or go with a 7800X3D/4080 Super build.

>>102098257
Yes because NVIDIA having delays for "Blackwell" (or whatever it's actually called), and Intel's quick recovery, it's surely the best choice.

>>102098257
would a 7800x3d pair well with a 4090 at 4k?

>>102094821
How big of an effect is there at native 1440p or 4K?
Though I suppose the lower resolutions are still relevant because of upscaling

>>102098298
Not him, but yes.

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>>102097054
Wait for Arrow Lake and Battlemage to build your full blue dream PC dirty cheap. All recent Intel drama has been made up to bait goyim sell the stock so proper people will be able to get it. Everything goes just as planned.
Arrow Lake and Battlemage are going to stomp AMD and make Nvidia midrange cards obsolete. Jews do not lose.

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what a steal

lmao at the AMDjeets coping and seething
they lied and tried to scam you, and you guys are just sitting there and taking it lmao

im thinking in buying a gpu, what would be a good gpu to go along with my 5600g? i'd like it to be amd.
my local retailer has an asus rx 6600 selling at a good price, is it a good call for some mid-1080p gaming?

>>102098390
Great input. How's the oxidation going? Better trade in soon. Don't worry it's only microcode.

>>102098408
depends on the games you want to play. list them please :^)

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Surely, SURELY chongqingtifengwenhuayishuyouxiangongsi is a reputable seller

>>102098360
intel 13000k was what I was thinking for months.

is it really just garbage now?

>>102098515
Anon they all literally explode themselves I don't know what else to tell you

>>102098460
>chongqingtifengwenhuayishuyouxiangongsi
>Chongqing Tianfeng Cultural and Artistic Co., Ltd
I mean unironically they sound like a pretty good place to buy posters from.

>>102098369
From such a trustworthy seller too!

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>>102098616
>AMDjeets lying
figures lmao

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6fZB9c

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 EAGLE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory

I need to upgrade my system. Is there any glaring issues with this in the build? It's just the cpu, mobo, and mem I need to change right now

>>102098360
It's pretty fucking funny actually.
Intel despite its retardation still has the better overall experience and will now be forced to outperform and be cheaper.
Since AMD was too stupid to take advantage and failed with 9000 series, it's up to Intel whether or not they want to win with Arrow Lake. Let's hope their Jewiness doesn't kick in and they can keep the MSRP at or below Raptor Lake.

>>102098656
>Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory
I've hear people say not to get the Cosair DDR5 but I don't really understand why

>>102098667
$300/400/600 for the Core Ultra 5/7/9. deal?

>>102096728
For gaming still no. It's amazing for many non game uses tho.

>>102097707
In literally one game. In rest Intel had 0% improvement.

>>102098687
I've had memory failure on Corsair before, but it was a decade old anyway
My corsair mice expire after a year or two, expected tho
Other companies are more hit than miss but there's too much to choose from

>>102097920
resolve has a linux port tho

>>102099152
My Corsair commander core decided to shit itself and would prevent my computer from POSTing.

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>>102097363
>prove it
ask your favorite youtube shill for proof
I'm not the one with tenthousands usd worth of hardware making seven figures from cattle consooming my dogshit videos promoting w11 and intentionally ignoring w10

>>102094754
theres something so comfy about single fan cards

>>102098774
> Windows 11 only chud

>>102094850
Preparing for rdna4

5700X3D
ASRock B550 PG
XFX AMD Radeon RX 6750 XT

Is this the best/affordable budget build I can get with AM4/DDR4? I've only read to buy X3D for gaming, I only really want to improve my CS2 experience and then play some Dayz/Bethesda titles also RDR2. Upgrading from i5 4670k and 760/10603gb.

Question:
Is it worth spending an extra $14 for a 0.20 GHz increase?
Thinking of buying a a CPU for my ThinkStation. It currently has a Xeon E5-1620 v4 (4 cores, 8 threads, 3.50 base GHz, 3.80 boost GHz).
My choices are:
Xeon E5-2690 v4 (14 cores, 28 thread, 2.60 base GHz, 3.50 boost GHz)
Xeon E5-2680 v4 (14 cores, 28 thread, 2.40 base GHz, 3.30 boost GHz)
A step down in speed but I value the cores a lot more since I'll be running multiple VMs. There's also the E5-1680 v4 but that shit is like $200 still.

Anyone do one of those silly sub-5L ITX builds?

I've been really tempted to get a Velka 3 or one of it's knockoffs

Is there any point to me moving my OS SSD from a 1TB M2 to a 2TB M2 aside from the 2TB being a gen newer?

>>102100076
No.

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>tfw really want to build new rig but not interested in any new AAA games

>>102100222
Are you me?
>building a 7900gre just to play PoE

>>102099841
>>102100275
i really hope you fags actually plan on buying radeon, since you know they're crashing and burning when it comes to sales

>>102100307
Does everything in this thread need to devolve into brand wars?

2024 is the year of AAA flops

X3D was weighed down by Microsoft and it was still on top HOLY FUARK

>>102100222
UE5 & Forced TAA are cancers on gaming. I used to laugh at consoles running weird sub-HD resolutions with upscaling yet still chugging.

>>102100222
This is me. Gonna build a 1000 dollar rig to continue playing AA games from the mid 2000s and pixel indie shit

>>102100307
Yes I will buy Radeon, I have no interest in buying any Nvidia GPU or Intel product for the foreseeable future.

>>102100222
Congratulations, you found out about goyslop. Start using GOG.

>>102100222
So get a $1000 monitor and play old stuff at 4k240hz

>>102100494
>Start using GOG.
not that anon, but that's just polish flavored slop.

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>>102094754
Are there other thick but short, less than 333mm, high end cards out there besides Nvidia FE and Sapphire Nitro+?

>>102097140
Has been for the last 7 years.

>>102100837
>So get a $1000 monitor and play old stuff at 4k240hz
a 300 dollar monitor makes classic total war games with unit mods insane
idk why you would buy anything new, just inject code into old games until they are better, the bulk of the assets are there for you to use

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is $270 too much for a 3070? i just want to run LLMs and flux locally and it's time to move on from a 1070ti

>>102098369
damn i would trust chongqing

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Is it sacrilegious not to use HDR in your Monitor that supports it?

I tried it once, I didn't know it's supposed to be so bright. I always keep my monitor at the lowest brightness settings.

>>102098369
Chongqing is the best seller in all the jianghu.

>>102101375
You could get a 3060 for cheap that has more vram for AI tasks.
>$270
I've seen many of them selling for 250 at this point, and frankly I'd need 12 gb at minimum to run decent 13b models.

>>102101699
HDR uncalibrated leads to washed out colors. You will have to recalibrate each time you start a new game

>>102101699
>Is it sacrilegious not to use HDR in your Monitor that supports it?
If it's a real HDR monitor such as an OLED TV, absolutely. I would recommend it for most games as long as it's not a competitive one (League, Valorant, CS:GO, Overwatch, etc.) The bright flashes become distracting.

Use it for movies and make use of the quick access Dark Room Mode if you have an LG TV OLED.

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Babe wake up, new $40 Thermalright cooler just dropped:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01jc8CLuRWY
tl;dw essentially the same or a bit better than the PA 120mm version as well as PS & PS EVO SKUs. Still waiting on the Royal Preytor.

Anyone know how far in advance Nvidia announced they're having some sort of conference that unveiled the 4080?

>>102102074
4 weeks in advance

>>102100222
kek buyer remorse

told you, AAA are shit. look for rtx 4060 and you don't need more.

i have been wating for two years for the 7900xtx falls in price below $800

at this point i dont even want to pay more than $600

i think i will never be able to get a gpu because im autistic

>>102100222
Just build a rig for maximum efficiency at reasonable cost
It'll be just as fun and not cost as much as a car

>>102102193
>i think i will never be able to get a gpu because im autistic
You're gay you fucking retard
If you were autistic it would make you realize you need a GPU to do any reasonable hardware accel task, only troons think integrated is usable in any way shape or form

>>102102074
Extremely high chance RTX 5080 gets a release date at CES in January next year. Likely release late January or early Feb

>>102102273
Don't try to bully him into buying inferior Radeon hardare

Cheapest gpu that supports hardware video decoding and will be supported for some years? Intel 310? Ive seen some amd rx 430 for $20. Will those suffice?

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why are gpu prices so stupid?

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>>102102460
skill issue

>>102102287
Name 1 nvidia graphics card thats below $600 that you would recommend him to buy

Do all monitor makers have shit QC or is it a matter of only the people with issues post about them? I'm trying to decide on one but can't make up my mind because of that.

>>102102492
Those look pretty stupid to me

>>102102532
Not sure which are the worst offenders but it can happen to any of them. Just try to buy from a store with a good return policy if you can.

>>102102193
There was literally a $600 7900xtx on amazon a couple hours ago. Not sure if the deal is till up

>>102102639
>deal
99% chance scam
Is this your first day on the internet?

Is gaming the most common use case for desktop computers? I reckon productivity is in the minority and general desktop computing is relegated to phones/laptops. Gaming must be the biggest use case for desktops at this point, right?

>>102098150
I bet you can get 5700XT for less and it performs better now

>>102099770
it would be hilarious if they did, but I bet nvidia put some draconic non compete on them

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>>102102718
No it doesn't, even in basic raster
Also it can't use XeSS
And it's not DX12 Ultimate capable
It'll be the V64 soon

>>102102748
>Also it can't use XeSS
>And it's not DX12 Ultimate capable
like it fucking matters, speaking of delusional, go to bed monke

>>102102736
yeah I am guessing that EVGA signed it too, chumps. thinking they were actually partners.

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found a Ryzen 7 4700s mainboard locally for a decent price
heard they are a lot of trouble to work with tho

>>102102715
office user is still a thing, you don't imagine they work off the phones and latops in tehe, right?
freelancers buy high end parts
it is comfier to browse on a big screen
indies build workstations out of consumer
artists need those expensive machines too, blieve it or not
gaming is huge, but not that huge, steam got to 37m concurrent users only recently, that's not that many PCs in global terms

>>102102789
>heard they are a lot of trouble to work with tho
my guess finding a stable platform/case to put it in is the issue?

>>102094754

Hi /g/
I'm in the process of deciding what my new PC will be
For me idle power is very important because my pc is on all the time, and is mostly used for Microsoft Office package and browsing the internet, with only some light gaming, and I'm willing to go down to 900p or 720p for videogames. I also simply dislike having a machine that eats up a lot of electricity, it seems wasteful to me.

Ive been googling, and it seems like these days the best gaming cpu's are AMDs, but that AM5 is terrible for idle power, while Intel CPUs can often go to less than 10 watts when idle.
But it also seems like there was a big scandal with Intel cpus self destroying because of a voltage problem, that was "fixed" with an update that basically ruinned their performance, and the company is in the gutters, maybe may go bankrupt.

Are the 12100 and 12400 by Intel the best cpus for idle power? Should I go for a ddr4 or ddr5 motherboard? Do you know a motherboard that is also a low wattage one (I guess without wifi and not rgb lights).
I'm afraid that if I buy a 12100 it will be too old and underpowered very quickly. And don't know if Intel has better cpus than that one without their recent problems.

>>102102901
Look at the ryzen 8000 series, for example the 8600G.
they are laptop chips, they don't have the separate i/o die business going on, idle power is not an issue.
the low end alder lake chips like the 12100 and 12400 are good too

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>>102102754
>delusional
Ah yes, the AMDelusional tries unsuccessfully to turn the insult around

>>102102715
gaming vr htpc i use mine for everything

slower than my 69xt I HAD and 79xtx now lol 6950xt owners laughing rn
https://youtu.be/DMW0lxP7lCA
jfc rdna 4 no wonder their skipping a big relase

>>102103006
56CUs performing worse than a 1650 shouldn't make you think "AMD FUCKED UP, RTG IS DEAD" it should make you think, "oh this is obviously someone testing the developmental sample of the first dies"

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My computer, although dented, survived being in my checked luggage for several days

But now I need to buy new screens.

1440p, 32", 144hz. Any suggestions?

>>102103131
>1440p, 32"
I have severe myopia but even I can see how freakishly blurry that is going to be.

>>102103039
on the other hand it tells us RDNA4 isn't coming this year, likely jan/feb 2025.

whats with this 7800x3d only using half of its allotted ppt

>>102103230
temp or voltage limit

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Is it so fucking over, nshartia brothers? How soon this new 3070ti will die?

>>102103245
shouldn't it blow up at this point?

>>102103245
post hwinfo sensors

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I returned my MSI GAMING X SLIM 4070 Ti Super card due to coil whine, the second one was a Zotac Super Trinity. The whine on that one was even louder. Now the Gigabyte Eagle OC version arrived, and again, coil whine.

Is there anything I can do about it, or do I just keep returning cards? Does every card nowadays have this and I would just have to deal with it? The high-pitched noise is just unacceptably annoying.

>>102102901
intel nuc and amd equivalent mini-pcs idle at around 10W for total system.

>>102103230
Hardcoded current/power/thermal limit that gets triggered before ppt/EDC/tdc

>>102103384
If it happens on all 3 models, maybe you have a bad PSU

>>102103384
Get a Sapphire card, duh. Never a coil whine.

>>102103442
I have one that whines

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>>102103272
Power controlling chip shows wrong values. But card easily draws 270 watts without down-voltage.

>>102103459
I'd say gpuz is reporting incorrectly

>>102103449
Really? I had 3, always perfect.

>>102097230
no
is it good

>>102103161
i think that's ultrawide

Does MSI Afterburner keep my custom curve on when closed? Or do I have to minimize it? Do I also have to open up the application and select the profile every time I boot?

>>102103524
It is kept until you reboot your pc or restart your drivers

>>102103524
You have to run it. AMD doesn't have this problem, all the curves in driver. haha.

>>102103172
yeah thats fine, RDNA3 was squeezed to early December and got a lot of bad press

>>102103384
too many variables associated with coil whine.
i built several pcs in the last 2 years that were quiet as a mouse during stress testing (at my house) and then howled like a banshee when the client fired it up at their house.
i now send a short clip of the rig running cinebench/furmark with zero noise so they know its a problem on their end if it does end up getting coil whine.
some times it has been a psu or whatever but its more than what people here like to parrot, as if its x or y model that has the magic touch.

>>102103524
>Does MSI Afterburner keep my custom curve on when closed?
Yes

>Do I also have to open up the application and select the profile every time I boot?
Yes or set it to start up. Use the windows icon in the lower left quadrant

>>102103483
it's from 2017 maybe they've gotten better
it also sounds quieter with this psu who knows maybe i remember wrong. It's in my htpc
https://voca.ro/154CIBHnNukI

>>102103594
damn, the thing sound like circular saw, even my current red devil doesn't do that, though it got whine at fps higher than 150

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Fuck that, when I play gayems it reports 12.1v. And it shows 4295v in 2d mode.

>Muh coil whine
>Muh fan noise
>Muh random bumfuck niche feature

You sound like a bunch of faggots. No wonder Nvidia don't give a shit about the whiney picky temperamental AIB market and focus solely on AI and OEMs now.

They should start shipping free dildos with GPUs to appeal to you people.

>>102103606
Oh this is at 200-300 fps
it's quiet at low fps. can't say the same about the fan, the blower does blow

>>102103619
just ignore it
but I've read that some 30 series cards used bad vrm controllers?

>>102103524
Does MSI Afterburner keep my custom curve on when closed?
By defaultno, but under 'fan' tab in settings, you can set to firmware control mode with a compatible GPU
pros: Fan curve sticks even when closed
cons: you can only set 3 points in the fan curve in firmware mode.
>Do I also have to open up the application and select the profile every time I boot?
Fan curve doesn't need a profile selected, it's independent of profiles. Profiles are just for OC settings. OC settings can be auto enabled by ticking 'apply OC settings at boot' (boot means program in this case, not PC boot)

>>102103578
So what do you recommend. Considering I've had three separate whining cards, should I try to replace the PSU? Can the PSU cause whining in the GPU?

>>102103622
Why are you so mad about people talking about pc parts in a pc general?

>>102103544
>>102103546
>>102103589
I see, thanks.
>>102103641
I'm talking about an undervolt. I use Fan Control for all my fans, including the GPU.

>>102103646
undervolt, fps cap, dlss etc

you can try a ups to clean the power

>>102103652
could try TUF asus, though it's overpriced, can fix your problem

>>102103589
>Yes or set it to start up. Use the windows icon in the lower left quadrant
It's the upper right quadrant. You also have to enable Start with Windows in Settings.

>>102103677
i have a tuf 4080 and it whines but i keep my pc under my desk so i dont hear it and dont care

>>102103690
if you can't hear it under the desk it's not whining, when it whines it whines, can hear it from another room.

5700X3D for 165 inc tax is that good.

will the new intel cpus drop into my z690 ddr4 or do i need to go ddr5? fast enough for me now with a 13600k nothing really taxes it gaming wise even in vr or 3k 120hz with a 79xtx

>>102103704
their going for 100ish on ali

>>102103734
that's where I'm getting from (it's 125 inc tax in my local currency)

>>102103699
your house needs rewiring or something then

>>102103646
psu can introduce coil whine but again its almost voodoo at this point.
you could have 2 of the exact same model of psu (or gpu) and one could whine while the other is ok.
then all of them could whine if you plugged them in at a different house or none of them could whine.
if you want a surefire way to get rid of the coil whine (and likely fuck up your card in the process), hit any chokes/vrms that are buzzing with hotglue to stop them vibrating.
theres a reason old tvs n shit would have gobs of glue on seemingly random caps/chokes etc
or learn to live with the coil whine like everyone else does now

>>102103751
fuck yeah i was tempted until i saw the speed boost zen 4 is getting now considering doing a 7800x3d build which is cheaper here 1k usd vs 1.5k off ali

only if my oxyinside shits itself 136k

>>102103384
invest in noise cancelling headphones

>>102103774
I was going to go for Zen 5 but it's a horrible disappointment and 103 with some ali sales before tax as a drop in upgrade is tasty. Zen 3 is also getting a speedboost too, hoping for at least 5%

>>102103789
i had a 5600x and 5900x zen 3 is fantastic compared to zen 5 and shitlakes

>>102103767
NTA, but can you give me a video/audio example of subtle coil whine? I'm insensitive to a lot of noises and I wanna know if I somehow got attuned to it.

>>102103808
I can record my Gigabyte card at 150fps
it's very subtle

>>102103774
>speed boost zen 4 is getting
It's not though
The update just brings W11 up to par with W10 instead of being laughably behind.

>>102096321
Why do charts keep omitting 3090 numbers?

>>102103870
source or your full of shit 24h2 vs ancient w10

>>102103876
>>102096557

>>102103872
It's no longer the fastest GPU, and it was never a gaming focused card. Besides, it's literally 10% faster than a 3080 in every single benchmark, not hard to do the math yourself.
>>102103876
Read the thread, you can even use gallery mode and find your answer.

>>102103884
can you not read your own benchmarks? 24h2 still faster!
w10 is just as pozzed as 11 all windows pcs since early 1990s 3.1/nt is
>>102103887
w10 fanboys are braindead

>>102103808
Unless you have hearing damage, you're gonna hear it, I assure you. There also no such thing as a quiet coil whine, since it's high pitched.

>>102103891
The top bar clearly says 'custom bios' you retarded nigger, Wendell used custom PBO settings in that one to demonstrate the effect of custom settings.
W11 monkeys proving to be cum-slurping morons as usual

so i just bought a ryzen 5 7600 and the day later they annouce the 7600x3d in september..
based on pasts versions will there be much difference in gaming from 1440p? should i just return it and wait? im in europoor so if it's like double the price it can fuck off

>>102103891
read the chart better
the top result is with extensive bios tweaks - apply the same tweaks to win 10 and linux
i seriously don't understand why people use windows 11, you get worse performance and a worse ui. why?

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I'm the one who was asking about PSUs yesterday, settled for a
>Cooler Master MWE Gold V2 (ATX 3.0)
but 750w instead of 650w(my build is 7600x with 7700XT), It's in the mid range aa according to the tier list so am I less likely to blow up my pc now?

>>102103922
Yes it's ok

>>102103914
You can go compare the 5800x to 5800x3d for a rough idea, or the 7700x to 7800x3d
Some games really love extra cache, while others see much smaller gains. One thing is for sure, 7600x3d will be more expensive and have slightly worse performance outside of games. Since you didn't grab a 7800x3d budget is obviously a concern for you, so I would just stick to the 7600. Unless you're playing a 1080p with a 4090 then you're not going to be CPU bottlenecked in games anyway, 7600 is still great for games..

>>102103914
unless you paid more than 150 you're fine. the X3D needs to be around 200 to be worth it in terms of fps/€

>>102103808
300-450 fps
https://voca.ro/19QjmJpfDeu9

>>102103948
recorded 2 inches away from the gpu

>>102103941
>you paid more than 150 you're fine
Not him but you don't know what prices are like here. That's a crazy offer for a 7600 even today.

>>102103959
>with all fans in the rig off too

>>102103972
the fans are on you think I should record another video with toothpicks in all the fans

>>102103919
this but win7
its faster than win10+ in every way

>>102103982
how noticeable is it without being 2 inches from the GPU.. you know like real world distance and with headphones on.. which is implied by you playing games

>>102103992
2000 was slower than 98
XP was slower than 2000
7 was slower than XP
10 was slower than 7
11 is so much heckin faster there is no historical precedent to think otherwise hecking stop benchmark now

>>102104007
95 was slower than 98se

>>102104004
you aren't going to hear it at all
I play with regular speakers with my side panel off, gpu 2.5 feet from my head, I don't notice it. I play at 180-200 fps

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Guys, hotglue and epoxy won't help with coil-whine, because coils resonate inside their housing.

My cpu is 5600x, is my only option for AM4 upgrade a 5800x3d for noticeable gains or should I just go with AM5 cpus?

>>102094754
So i unironically have autism so background noise annoys tf out of me
Was gonna buy a new case and cooling for my rtx 3080 ryzen 3600 pc
Except noctua fans what all new stuff can i get so it makes super low or no noise? Expecially when not gaming as I will be wearing headphones while gaming so doesnt matter if its loud.

>>102104014
95 was the original vista

>>102103992
Post some gaming benchmarks that prove this

>>102104030
no. you can oc+tighten your ram or compile tkg kernel for free (total cost: $0.00) if you already undervolted (also free)

>>102104035
t30

>>102104030
5800x3d is a bit overpriced for what it offers and 5700x3d isn't going to be a big enough improvement to bother with, I would wait for a decent deal to move to AM5, if you really need to. Are you really finding yourself bottlenecked with a 5600x?

>>102104035
Just build some sound-isolating wall around your pc.

>>102104053
bruh im getting 3 noctua A12x25 fans
saw a yt video where they werent making any noise at all below 1000 rpm

>>102104076
It is a complete bullshit, anon. They make noticeable sound already at 800rpm.

>>102104096
ok well the phanteks u mentioned.... they are quite expensive (2x)
anyhow is water cooling quieter than not water cooling? Do I need to buy water cooler for gpu or cpu?

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>>102104118
Yes, but do not even bother with water-cooling. It is not so expensive, but pretty time-consuming.

>>102104056
>Are you really finding yourself bottlenecked with a 5600x?
Not really, except when playing games that are very cpu hungry (think KCD and DD2). Most aaa unoptimised pajeet code games it handles well.

>>102103948
>>102103959
Couldn't even hear anything with my shitty monitor speakers, had to use my headphones at blaring volume, so I could hear the interference from your recording device just as well as the sound. If I had your rig there's no way I could hear that kind of coil whine, so either people whining about it have it much worse or their hearing is incredibly sensitive.

>>102104155
https://github.com/integralfx/MemTestHelper/blob/oc-guide/DDR4%20OC%20Guide.md
https://github.com/Frogging-Family/linux-tkg

>>102104164
listen to the previous one I posted that one is much worse (ctrl f vocaroo)

>>102103941
ryzen 5 7600 starts at 180 euro, usually around 200 so i suppose the 7600x3d would be at least 250/300 if not more
5800x3d costs double the 5800x

fellow Inteljeets, what's our next cope for Arrow Lake being 20 times slower than the 5800X3D?

>>102103939
guess better to use the money for my gpu upgrade then, i'm upgrading piece by piece and my rx6700xt is starting to feel the old at 1440p and fsr sucks

>>102104206
GPU upgrade would definitely make more sense, good luck finding a decent value upgrade in this market though.

>>102104206
Hold on to the 6700 XT until you can get a 5070

>>102095587
Dell makes the best monitors rn

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>>102094754
Are there any decent air flow cases with power button and ports still in the front?

Matx board compatible whilst still being smallish. I like the look of the montech 100 but the buttons are on the front. Are there any other roptuons before I pull the trigger

>>102104229
*8800XT

>>102104175
unrelated but itll be a sad day when vocaroo inevitably shuts down due to overwhelming running costs

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