first for waiting until zen22/rtx 12000

Yesterday we bullied windows users. What's on the agenda today?

>>102104354
4060/ti owners.

>>102104401
They actually deserve it though.

>>102104354
people who didnt buy 3080 at launch

>>102104354
we bully intel and ARM users (rightfully)

just download moar fps lel
>https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/1f21tlk/quick_tests_on_7800x3d_with_windows_11_24h2/

>>102104405
umm saar, this is an nvidia board

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>>102104409
sold for less that $500 kek

>>102104412
How nice of Microsoft to refund your performance that you lost when you "upgraded" to 11.

>>102104441
Intel need not apply it seems.

>>102104419
I can both like and dislike things about Nvidia.

https://youtu.be/WS5CAb6s5j8
has this been fixed yet? Why the cables so fucking short? Why not just go optic fiber at this point vs copper

https://www.amazon.com.au/Silkland-DisplayPort-Certified-Compatible-FreeSync/dp/B0CDQ198Z4?th=1
would this work?

>>102104441
The crazy thing is that seemingly no one picked up on it until now, is there not a single reviewer doing W10 reviews for modern hardware these days? I remember back when W11 launched, performance was marginally worse but not really worth caring about, but I guess no one thought to check with newer hardware. Zen 4 could have seen these gains over a year ago.

https://www.techbuy.com.au/p/195165/VIDEOCARDS_NVIDIA_GEFORCE_6_VIDEOCARDS/Galaxy/GXY-GTX670-2GD5.asp

300 dollarydoos for fucking 12 year old midrange gpu lol

i had a 460 back in the day it SUCKED was slower than my gtx 285 oc

>>102104543
Hw unboxed 3 weeks ago

>>102104570
so funny the amd fine wines still in effect except its for cpus this time

>>102104558
it's kepler not fermi
and it's worth about $20 on the used market like all other old cards
you cant buy used hardware from stores, you buy it from people

>>102104578
>fine wine
Ah yes, AMD hardware being broken at launch and fixed a year later. Fine wine indeed.

>>102104523
>would this work?
For what use case? Particularly as the little graphic they have only shows 40gbps which isn't real 2.1 speed territory (which is 54gbps or for the full fat 2.1 that will "matter" is 80gbps). Especially at 7.5m long

>>102104589
>tops all the performance charts
>gets even better
>this is somehow a bad thing
Pat, pls.

>>102104589
As opposed to intel breaking after launch? Whats your point i know what id rather!
>>102104592
need a longer dp cable for my second screen

>>102104589
it's a windows issue this time not janky drivers like gcn
BVLLDVZER also got a windows update (2 actually) that fixed performance somewhat

>>102104606
>BVLLDVZER also got a windows update (2 actually) that fixed performance somewhat
Only took MS a year to do it.

>>102104586
i just found it funny lol 200 dollarydoos

>>102104603
>need a longer dp cable for my second screen
Well in the here and now you're not going to do any better than effectively the DP 1.4a speeds at long lengths.

>>102104618
I imagine the guy who put the listing up giggling to himself

MX-4 or MX-6? I checked my CPU after noticing thermal throttling on a benchmark (before it was 15 degrees away from the 90 limit) and the paste dried out so I need a new tube. Never tried Arctic but they're cheap and popular.

>>102104667
MX-6 is newer and better, MX-4 is good however.

did I fall for a meme buying a 4060?

>>102104682
yes

>>102104682
no, if you bought a 4060ti you would have. the 4060 is okay, just has less vram than the 3060.

>>102104682
any option under 500 eurodollars is a meme

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>>102104693
>>102104703
>>102104710
that is concerning, ok anons give it to me straight. How badly did I get scammed, if I purchased it brand new for $270?

>>102104724
Not really 'scammed', it's just a very mediocre card at a very mediocre price. Adding that it's only 8GB means really no one should be buying it. 8GB belongs in the <$180 category.

>>102104724
the 6650XT offers near identical performance for $220

>>102104747
>AMD

>>102104751
is perfectly good and only shills say otherwise.

>>102104751
yeah, not having to deal with NVCP or Afterburner is a plus.

>>102104745
ngl what is medioce about a 4060? I gayme 2k at highest settings with it just fine and it's more efficient than my 3060 before

>>102104724
you might be able to start picking up used 3080-ish cards at the price range
>4060 w/DLSS 3 vs 3080
I like to think the 3080 still wins but I'm not a benchmark jockey

>>102104767
NVCP is dogshit but Afterburner is fine, Rivatuner is amazing and ties in well with it.

>>102104774
problem is used cards have all been mined to shit

>>102104667
it's good paste. lasts a long time. Some pastes dry out in a couple months

hey what's the best PC build to play GTA 6 when it comes out
oh wait
you mean 4 years later that you can't build a PC that is better than a PS5 for less than 1200 dollars
and you mean that GTA6 is not even going to come out on a PC?
nevermind, I will buy a macbook for computer stuff and a PS5 for video games

for me it's thermalright tf7

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>Some pastes dry out in a couple months
do gaymers really?

>>102104795
Good, keep your AIDS and goyslop away from PC. I wish V was still stuck on shitboxes.

for me its kingpin cooling KPx

>>102104673
>>102104790
I've heard the MX-6 lasts less.

>>102104795
are they even releasing it on xbox feces S(hit)

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>>102104795
it's already out
you want lots of cores and lots of rams

>OP rotates between nvidia schizo and actually helpful OP

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>>102104803
For me it is a "free" fehonda paste I received with overpriced chinese thermal pads.

If my case fan is not as strong as my double fan cpu cooler, would I be fine with removing one of the fans? It's the phantom assassin 120 rec in the OP for a i7-12700k

Is it a waste of time to try to bring a CPU near ambient during idle and light loads? It hovers between 45-55. Ambient is like 30 celsius.

>>102104809
PTM7950 is our lord and savior.

>>102104932
I got mine hovering 25-27C in Linux Mint browsing youtube, jumps to 30-40C range when I'm working. Never went above 50 kek (I live in a cold climate)

>>102104932
my ambient and light load is constant 45C, 60C gaming with RT
it is a waste of time.

>>102104933
10 years from now when I decide to upgrade my PC I will consider it

>>102104959
Greenland? Because even here in rus lands temp right now is 28C outside.

>>102104873
Could you clarify what you are proposing? What fan are you removing and why?

nobody can refute that 4 years later you can't build a PC that outperforms a PS5 for less than 1200 dollars
thanks for the You's

>>102104932
>Is it a waste of time
Yes, CPUs can comfortably run at 80*C 24/7 for decades and be perfectly fine. Trying to lower it is just adding more noise for no benefit.

>>102104978
It's 13C in Washington, US of A right now

>>102104974
that's the thing, it can last you 20 years without repasting anything, it becomes solid

>>102104873
remvoe it and find out, should be fine if you don't load your CPU 100% all the time

>>102104979
he wants to remove one fan from tower cooler with two fans, what is so difficult to udnerstand?

Would a 4060 be a significant upgrade to a 3060 at 1080p or would it be a waste of money

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>>102104992
PC users don't support leftist terrorism

does monitor brand matter if the specs are the same?

>>102104959
Good for you.
>>102104967
Yeah I just tried right now to see how low it goes with the CPU and case fans set at 100%. It refused to go below 43 on idle, just Fan Control on. I'm just curious if my range is bad for a CPU to be running at most of the time.
>>102104994
Alright, guess that answers it.

>>102104995
On a bright side you don't have -34C winters.

>>102104336
Are there any decent air flow cases with power button and ports still in the front?

Matx board compatible whilst still being smallish. Willing to go ATX case too for future proofing. I like the look of the montech 100 but the buttons are on the front. Are there any other roptuons before I pull the trigger

>>102105034
>montech 100
you mean it's a little to the side? I always recommend torrent or torrent compact. I really like it. Fractal North is cool too, but I guess not for everyone.

>>102104992
>said anon, as he types and posts this on his PC

>>102105104
that's not his point, he means that component prices and game performance will degrade so much you'd have to brute force it with more expensive things. Not like it was with ps4 gen where you could use same machine for 8 years.

>>102104992
You mean the PS5 Pro?
Alright
7800XT - 500
5600 - 90
cheapo b550 - 90
heatsink - 20
32 GB - 70
2 TB NVME - 120
Midrange 750W - 100

>>102105135
we don't know what RDNA4 going to be like, what if doubles the raster?

Is this a good monitor?

I had to sell my two 32" 1440p 144hz monitors to move.

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>>102105184
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/61376/lg-ultragear-32gp750-b-qhd-165hz-g-sync-hdr-ips-31-5in-monitor

Forgot the link reeeee

I miss that place so much

>>102105147
they said the ps5 pro gpu has 60 tflops
in case they update the cpu too you can bump it to am5 and still come in under 1200

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Is the performance increase from Intel 8000 series to 9000 series worth a budget CPU upgrade? I7-8700 in this case.

>>102105218
it's the same cpu. 10 th gen is also the same. 11th gen was a new architecture but for some reason it performed the same
if you want better performance you can try LGA1700, AM4 or AM5

>>102105240
so basically anything that fits on that socket doesn't provide enough performance increase t obe worth it right?

>>102105266
Correct
maybe you can drop in a 9900k if your board handles it but it's not cost efficient and you would want to upgrade your ram too if it doesn't overclock to normal 3600-4000 speeds
i would save for a new setup

>>102105266
I just looked up the price of 9900k
For that money you can get 5600+board or 12400(f)+board and wipe the floor with the 9900k

>>102105266
all in all your 8700 still has respectable performance for a cpu that old. if you want a significant upgrade you would have to buy a new motherboard

>>102105293
>>102105320
Guess that settles it. The other components are still pretty good and it handles most gayms acceptably on 1080 bar shit like Wukong: Monke so I'll just wait some more.

>>102105351
>all in all your 8700 still has respectable performance for a cpu that old.
This is the CPU of a gamer. Not as clumsy or random as the 13th or 14th generation; an elegant processor for a more civilized age.

Thank you for posting this image. It was somewhere on my phone, but now that you posted it here I can't thank you enough

>>102105011
If they're identical specs then I guess quality control and warranty would be the only differences I would consider

>>102105007
The 3060 is a good of a 1080p only card as you could possibly need for the next few years.
You won’t see a worthwhile upgrade unless you go for a card with 4070 super or 7800 XT levels of performance.

>>102105034
Depending on how smallish you want it the ncase M2 might be worth a look, fits both mitx and matx and you can configure the internals with quite a bit of freedom (obviously matx is a little more limited)

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>>102105034
You can buy separately a module that fits on the front left-side of the Lancool 216. It's not quite center front, but better than nothing for a budget good air flow case.

>>102104839
Can confirm 64gb and 13600k is barely enough for lots of ai traffic in sp
Mp runs better

>>102104682
Yep it's one of the worst GPUs ever right behind the 2060 and cucked 3060 and 1060 versions with gimped ram cores and clocks
Why people buy nvidiot shit when they haven't made a decent gaming GPU since the 1080ti is beyond me the a770 is just as fast if not more so and only 250 $

Any decent 1440p >144hz MiniLED monitors out there? I'm just trying to get the best thing that's not OLED

Is there any difference between overclocked and non-overclocked GPUs? Many happy hardware merchants in my shithole charge over a hundred dollars for OC versions which I don't want to pay. As I understand I can do the same overclocking at home and get just the same result if not better, right? Or is there something more in factory overclocked GPUs, like improved thermals and so on?

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>>102105692
>a770 is just as fast

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wp87F6gczGw

Why did he do it? Why is OLED so poo as monitors and TV's!

>>102105740
I have a 2060 and had a 1080ti and yep it's just as fast your full of shit

>>102104667
You should get Arctic Silver 5, like 4 grams if you want to be safe. That shit lasts FOREVER, I've had a system that ran it for 9 years and the past still wasn't dry when I took off the cooler.

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Ordered my build parts. Will be going from i7-2600k to a 7950x. From 8 to 64 gigs of ram. From 2 gb vram to 16 gb. First m.2 of my life. First liquid cooler. First 4k monitor, first pc monitor with high refresh rate.

What should I do when I boot it up for the first time?

Does it make a huge difference to go from 75hz to 144hz on 1080p? Is it worth it if the monitor is otherwise good?

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>>102105740
>3.5 fps

>>102105803
Arctic Silver sucks and is for boomers like yourself

>>102105840
WRONG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhaEOEGDb94

>>102105847
Jay is a boomer and is a moron, like yourself.

>>102105851
You have to be 18 years of age (mentally) to use 4chan, kiddo.

>>102105832
>1440p
>66% upscaling
what is this madness?

>>102105847
AS5 requires hours of burn in to start performing optimally
Kryonaut dries out in 2 months
You can't test pastes like this.

>>102105888
Yeah Jay is a fuckwit.

>>102105815
if you're building a new system why not get 9950x since, its the best and you use it for work so the cost doesnt matter?

As for 1st boot you can boot up cyberpunk and look at raytraced environments.

>>102105903
>As for 1st boot you can boot up cyberpunk and look at raytraced environments.
and then be like "okay, I'll turn that off because its just a performance tax"

May be a stupid question but should I suspend my case somewhat so the PSU fan has clearance or leave it covered (wholly sitting on a surface)? I'm curious if this matter for dust accumulation on the PSU.

>>102105900
True.
But I'm still glad I highlighted the url right clicked and opened in new private window because some guy in the comments said that mx-6 suffers from pump-out. mx4 it is.

>>102105970
no it doesn't, that was MX-5 that guy is talking crap.

>>102105708
Generally the OC models are better binned so you might get more manual OC out of them if that's your thing (or a better undervolt but that's nuanced).
The "stock" performance difference is minimal these days due to dynamic boost so don't spend big money on an OC model.

>>102105970
You're just as stupid for trusting a Jay fanboy. I've used two runs of MX-6 on different systems and also pasted a friend's system with it. Zero issues. I also do bi-yearly benchmarks to check for any sort of degradation and the paste holds just as well as it did 4 years ago.

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RDNA 4 bros.... it's over, not even faster than a 1650

>>102105929
I did this for half a decade now rt mostly looks like poo
PT looks good enough to justify using for visual gains but performance is still shit

>>102105978
>>102106001
I bought mx 6 too after my mx4 ran out. Thanks for clearing it up I should know better than trusting youtube comments.

>>102105880
The future according to nvidia.

amd fanboys are genuinely annoying :/

>>102105705
it will cost you more than an OLED

>>102105934
If you're building a new rig then buy a case with filtered intakes. The vast majority of mainstream midrange cases have it for the PSU at least. If you have some budget to spare, you should also spec the wattage such that the fan doesn't need to spin most of the time. Obviously you'll need a unit with 0RPM mode but they're not hard to come by nowadays.
OTOH, if you're talking about an old rig with none of those features then yeah try not to run it on the floor. Get yourself a stand of some sort - even a couple of inches makes a big difference for dust.

>>102106046
did they accept your rma

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>>102105787
I mean he is using it like that. It a miracle he got only, very not noticeable in the normal use, single line in the middle.

>>102106070
btw the line is there because of the border between white and dark, if he used dark theme it wouldn't be there, basically pixels on the border have to work more intensively par of the pixel is darker color and the other part is white

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>>102105880
you will use the upscaling and you will be happy

>>102106083
Who knew the ps360 would be where resolution stopped scaling for vidya.

>>102106052
Okay, the case has a filter but the PSU doesn't seem to (Lancool 216 & LEADEX VII XG 850 W). Fan is facing downwards. It runs extremely quiet but I don't care about that, I just don't want it to get clogged up with dust too quickly and for me to not notice, causing issues. I have it sitting on a chair like a foot above the ground, I'm just curious if dragging it to the front so the clearance is covered would make a difference in my case.

>>102106081
Still no excuse not even my 10 year old TV's monitors and plasma and LCDs have any issues

>>102106005
they tested with 3 CUs enabled
It will be 21x faster once they enable the full die

Should I go for a 182usd 3060 12gb or should I wait for a better card/deal? I just missed out on a 200usd 6700xt which is making me want to wait for a similar deal. It will be paired with a 5700x3d to play league and souls games in 1440p.

>>102106120
Very minimal difference if any. You've done your due diligence so don't sweat it - just clean the filter occasionally. Since your case doesn't have a front filter, unless you bought it separately, that'll mean like twice a year which is more than enough for a filtered intake.

>>102106156
yeah it's fine it's not that much slower than the 6700xt

>>102106156
Eh a 3060 will get more than satisfactory performance in those sorts of games so I don't see a reason to wait.

>>102106168
Yeah temps are solid for my whole system; only the CPU gives me a little pause, 45-55 degrees for idle and light loads, never goes above low 60s for my games on average and hitting low 80s in benchmarks like PassMark. This is an R5 7600 with a Phantom Spirit btw. I'll probably get the air filter so I save myself the cleaning headache.

>>102106207
Those temps are good. The idle reading is mostly a function of your fan curve anyway - it'll be "high" if the fans are set to spin slowly under light load.

>>102106129
CRTs- I owned one for 8 years so I know, brightness and colors go to shit in 5 years.
Plasma, burned in even worse, you don't have a new one to see the color shifts to compare.
LCDs, old ones with lamps, brightness gone to hell only in 4 years, I owned it since 2011 to 2015, it was barely outputting any light.
Modern LCDs got much better, but the damn glow, VA angles still terrible, VA smear from motion, IPS mid range monitors contrast is 800:1 with even shittier uniformity.
YOu ahve to pay $1.500 for a semi decent FALD LCD, that's twice the price of an OLED.
OLED is a trade, you buy nearly perfect monitor for 4 years of normal use and have to replace it when it goes to hell. Can't afford it, stick to LCD and replace your monitor in eight. Can't you save up $800 in 4 years?

>>102106132
>3 CUs enabled
wow, it's way faster than my 2CUs of RDNA3 in zen4

>>102106245
actually, thats 3CUs of RDNA2

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>>102106181
>>102106184
Thanks.

>>102106236
I never had any of those issues with any tech skills issue do better

>>102106234
I have a simple curve of 0% at 40 and 100% at 70, so they CPU cooler is always running (case fans have a higher threshold to reduce noise). My ambient temp is also pretty high, in winter the CPU cooler might not spin at all.

>>102106245
it has actual memory bandwidth

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>>102106266
Because you are blinder than me and I can't tell red from black. Getting used to something doesn't mean your living is good, it's just your inability to see from perspective.

>>102106314
Eyesight is great here lol my older va screens from 2018 2020 have no issues

>>102106234
Also, since I'm buying the front panel dust filter separately, are there some really good ones I can buy off Aliexpress or something? I could probably get away with something better.

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>>102106500
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Z0VxLcPxwQ

>>102106400
Ignorance is a bliss. Carry on.

more RDNA4 news
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-8000-rdna4-leak-reveals-four-gpu-variants-three-memory-configurations

>>102105903
>9950x
I found it hard to stomach +50% price for like +3% performance at best

>>102106520
Arousing

>>102106500
Personally I'd just buy the 1st party one. It's just a dust filter; not worth agonizing over. They do sell it on Ali but you might want to see if a regional retailer has it for faster shipping.

>>102106549
it was $20 cheaper than zen4 at launch now it's even cheaper

>>102106554
It's cheaper on Ali, but only slightly, since the shipping triples the total cost. A regional retailer sells it at the same price with shipping. Was just curious if there's a hidden market of 3rd party dust filters I should be aware of.

>>102105008
Speak for yourself classcuck

Why does OP say to avoid iGPU-less CPUs? I don't wanna deal with the terrible UX of multiple GPUs on Loonix.

>>102106619
all the latest cpus have iGPUs
disable it in bios if it causes you issues

>>102106619
Don't use Linux? I don't, had no clue this was even a problem. Lmao, Windows chads keep winning,

>>102106638
>make your expensive pc slower on purpose
windowsers are mentally ill

>>102106619
It is primarily for troubleshooting reasons and in worst case scenario if you dpgu explodes or some shit the system is still functional until a replacement can be sourced. Given the minor cost difference between having an igpu and not it is worth it as a failsafe.

>>102106619
it's telling you to avoid intel and outdated ryzen

>>102106652
no its telling you to buy a nvidia arm+geforce apu when they become available
its pre-shilling

>>102106585
They do exist, yes. Handy if no custom fitted one is available.

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Rather than conduct heat between my cpu and heat sink, this ptm 7950 pad instead glued my cpu to the heat sink. Unbeknownst to me, I tested my cpu, and it was still overheating after a few minutes. I removed the heat sink, ripping out the cpu in the process due to the aforementioned glue, and now my cpu is likely compromised.

>>102106797
do you understand what phase change means

>>102106797
the cpu is fine put it back in the board.
buy a $20 120mm 4 heatpipe cooler and throw the idiotic "water cooler" away

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What tools are best to calculate bottlenecks? I'm thinking about upgrading to a ryzen 5700x3d and looking for a matching gpu. I was thinking about a 4070s, but according to this calculator a 5700x3d seems too weak for that card. Didn't expect this, is this correct?

https://pc-builds.com/bottleneck-calculator/result/1wU1id/3/graphic-card-intense-tasks/2560x1440/

>>102106810
yes and now i regret it

>>102106837
how do i remove the phase change material from the pins without breaking them?

>>102106850
pick it out with a needle

>>102106845
well it depends
4070 s is gonna run games at 1440p and you're unlikely gonna see large fps drops due to cpu, but your ram being ddr4 instead of ddr 5 will result in a difference
If you're currently on am4 and have like 3600 then 5700x3d is a fine upgrade, if you build a new system you might want to wait and look at 9800x3d for am5

plz rate my linux gayman build /g/:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Hr8Zt7

>>102104667
What CPU? If it's not a super high end CPU just get a kryosheet and never worry about it again.
For paste, MX4 or MX6, Kyronaut, KPX and Noctua NT-H2 are all fine. Just get an applicator because some pastes are pretty thick and hard to smooth (even if you put them in hot water for a bit).

anyone tried using the PTM7950 instead of thermal paste on your CPU?

>>102106797
man, it starts working after several hot/cold exchanges, you need to ease it in the phase, the phase changes and starts working as it should, did you run it 100C' right away?
you wasted a perfectly fine pad.
nobody fucking reads the manual anymore.

>>102106895
Too expensive cooler
Too expensive mother board
Too expensive cpu
Too expensive case
Samsung nvme

>>102106797
>poomd
kek

>>102106919
yeah this one guy tried to use it with his AIO and dropped his thermal spaghetti on the pins and bricked his cpu
it's not recommended for amateurs

>>102106919
https://youtu.be/Q45RT65cIlg
guy says it's fine

>>102106946
its...made by honeywell, not ltt
is that guy on drugs

>>102106974
honeywell doesn't sell it to normies. only official resellers I know off are LTT and moddiy

>>102106919
>>102106946
the whole point of ptm7950 is for direct die applications. stuff like consoles, laptops, your steamdeck, your gpu, etc. your cpu has an IHS so may as well use paste.

>>102107004
and these days desktop cpus eat like 65w max while the coolers are gargantuan, so while it seems the easiest place to use it its also the worst

>>102106895
I would take MSI B650 Mortar board, exchange a samsung SSD for one more WD. And look at cheaper CPU cooler, chromax is neat, but is it worth the money? Get two 2Tb WDs on the change.
Rest of it is fine, don't listen to that guy, case is cool, I have it.

>>102107004
paste cant keep up. i've seen 2°C better results just slapping the pad on a 9900k ihs instead of nh-t1 paste

>>102106895
>Cooler
Either go all-in with the G2 or drop it back to one of those $40 Thermalrights.
>Mobo
Seems a bit overkill for a gaming rig.
>SSDs
Again kind of overkill for just gaming but there's not a huge price difference.
Also, this is super minor but you might want to stick to one brand if you plan on using their in-house software.
>Case & PSU
Maybe room to shave a bit off here if you need to. Though both will last multiple builds.
>Card
With the savings from the above changes you could move this up to a GRE or maybe 7900XT.

>>102107004
true, but the pad can stay there for two decades and have the same performance unlike paste

>>102106974
china sells it form honeywell as well, hell we got it in russia too, the real thing, only west is cucked

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Day 509 of waiting for next-gen GPUs

What are the chances of a 4000 series price drop when the first 5000 series card is released? I've been Waiting™ for so long.

>>102107107
unlikely. theyll keep select 4000 series as their 'budget' line and shift the whole 5000 stack towards the even higher end

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wp87F6gczGw

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>>102107107
>4000 series price drop
never. the premium pricing is here to stay

just bought a sn770 2tb drive to use as my main drive/os, normal daily use plus gaming.
would a sn850x actually feel and be better?

sn770 is 120 euro
sn850x is 150 euro

>>102107296
Exactly. Now bow for the black leather jacket man and kiss his feet.

>>102107301
both are good high end drives

You don't need more than 1080p.

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>>102107301
No, not really. I have an SN850X and it's not significantly better than my laptop's, almost full MZVLB512HBJQ, pic related. Although, if you can still return the SN770 you should buy the SN850X at that price.

>>102107296
>nvidia is restricting supply to keep prices static

>>102107395
what if you actually want to enjoy looking at the display

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>>102107475
lies, Nvidia would never

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Nvidia is going to
A. Give gamers a decent budget gpu
B. Gimp the 5060 with 8gb vram
place your bets gentlemen

>>102107586
Anyone who chooses A is delusional

>>102107586
why fixate on the fucking vram
if you bought a 24gb 4060 it's not gonna make you a happy gamer because it has like 15% of the functioning cores of a 4090

5060 is gonna have 10% of the cores of 5090, it's gonna suck ass and swallow cum. The vram literally could be anything and the card would not be good.

>>102107586
A for sure. A 5070 with 12gb vram for $849 would be such a steal! Especially since it'll come with dlss 4 exclusive

>>102107528
>extra fast gddr6
lol, lmao even. all i can do is laugh at whoever falls for this scam. why even bother buying the 4070 in the first place.

>dlss 1: fake marketing
>dlss 2: fake pixels
>dlss 3: fake frames
any guesses on what dlss 4 will be?

>>102107586
Why do need 8gb vram? 6gbs are more than enough for daily needs, and you'll never really need more than 4gbs, so your 5060 having 2gbs will be plenty for everything.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlfTHCzBnnQ

>Up to 35% Performance Improvement

Windows 10 was never 35% better than Windows 11, even at launch.

It's over, Windows 11 won.

>>102107482
>consoomer

>>102107667
Fake girlfriends

>>102107614
>it's gonna suck ass and swallow cum.
Uhm, so it's going to be a 3 slot card then? Or with some extension to the 5.25" drive bay?

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>>102107673
4gb is enough for anyone.

>>102107764
*3.5gb

>>102107667
the 10 year anniversary of GTX 970 3.5GB is coming up, maybe we will get another fake VRAM card

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>>102107818
>the 10 year anniversary
Oh shit I better dust off the memes.

>>102107831
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IghcowGhRBc

>>102107831
I got a great deal on my 970 cause of that, and money from a class action lawsuit

10/10 would recommend

Is the Kingston KC3000 reliable and good?

Are all modern mice doomed to suffer double-clicking issues after only a year or is it only Logitech? My old Microsoft Basic mice would last for 5 years before having issues, but these expensive pieces of shit die much earlier. What brand isn't garbage?

>>102107926
yes, its basically a Samsung 990 without the price.

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>>102104139
its only time-consuming once, during installation
if you use ptm on gpu and cpu aswell as clear liquids you'll literally never have to do any maintenance
its an investment. it might cost about 1k for a good setup, but I'll last you a lifetime. the only component you'd have to change when upgrading is the gpu waterblock
but if you stay behind one gpu gen, those blocks can usually be had for about 60 bucks

>>102107928
only logitech
asus is fine
roccat is fine
zowie is prob fine

>>102107897
classic meme

>>102107686
>AMD spends 2 years and millions of dollars on a brand new CPU architecture
>5% improvement
>Users spend 15 minutes to download and install latest Windows Update for free on existing systems
>10% improvement
What if downloading more ram, BUT REAL?

>>102107686
no true
just run game as admin to get all the gains (yes even more than with the update)

>>102108098
AMD always said microsoft was gimping their processors, guess they were right

>>102106895
Samsung SSDs run like shit on Linux: https://www.phoronix.com/review/solidigm-p44-pro/3

>>102107928
razer has the best switches

>>102107928
learn to replace your own switches with a $10 soldering iron on amazon, it's really that simple

buy switches on aliexpress and you can just use your favorite mouse and never have to worry about it again

soldering is an extremely simple skill

>>102107586
C. rtx 5050 with 6gb. But it has raytracing anon! :) Only $249..!

>>102108217
>soldering is an extremely simple skill
Yeah but I am an alcoholic.
Damn trembling hands.

>>102107632
compared to the one used by amd it is extra fast. its faster than old gddr6x

>>102107928
Logitech FINALLY replaced their switches on newer models, Logitech G502 X is one example. I got it for 45$. If it lasts 4 years I'll be happy, I'm enjoying this mouse so far.

>>102108348
>wired
Okay pleb, nobody cares.

>>102108182
Thank you anon, exactly the kind of oversight I was worried about. Likely switching to WD.

Is there a successor case to the Lancool 216 yet, maybe one made by Lian Li? I don't want to buy that one if something that's better value came out in those two years.

>>102108182
>december 2022
no way this is still true

>>102108182
never trust gook products

>>102108594
https://www.phoronix.com/review/corsair-mp700-pro/4
still the same performance in november 2023, samsung firmware bug or something like that

>>102108152
Wait. What? Have I been gaming wrong this whole time? Whats your source on this?

Do you think the kikes at Nvidia will keep the 5080 at $1,000 which is already insane or will these niggers try $1,200 again?

>>102108682
1500 minimum

>>102108682
Who knows
4080 must've been a huge flop at 1200 but if they arent releasing the 5090 for another 2-3 months they'll probably price it high being better than the 4090
I mean no way they'll name it x80 and not comfortably outperform the previous gen flagship, that would be unprecedented and atrocious

>>102108849
if the 5080 is the same performance or better as the 4090 they'll sell it for $1400

>>102104354
we will always bully windows users

>>102108924
I don't think they would've reduced the price of the 4080 to $1000 if that was their strategy. 5080 would still lose to 4090 in VRAM
Being higher than 1200 would only make sense if they aren't releasing the 5090 for like another 6 months and making retards double dip then dropping the 5080 price, kinda like the 1080 and 1080Ti. A possibility if AMD isn't competing at the high end I guess but too much of the 5090 leaked to release so late

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>>102108636
nvm
I was wrong

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>>102108626
thanks
buying sn850x

>>102109300
That's too good to be true
HUB probably fudged the numbers or messed up their test rigs

>>102109344
It's a well known fact that windows 11 is complete dogshit

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>>102108682
they'll increase prices again
I just wish these kikes would allow for queuing on their webstore, because right now founders editions don't actually exist
I'm fine with being charged and waiting 6 months, if that means I don't have to refresh their store like some retard

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Is it normal that there's a cracking noise coming from inside my PC? This usually happens when playing games, as I have a huge (33cm) GPU that has a support beam mounted underneath it (screwed in free slots). Said GPU also emits quite a lot of heat (70-80C).

Supposedly the cracking comes from components changing their shape when heated and it should be normal but I'd rather get some more opinions, know what should I watch out for and so on

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>>102109344
its too good to be true, indeed
now imagine how much better games would run if ALL botnet was removed
I think an increase of 50% would be possible, at least in some cases

>>102109474
Shut your mouth GOY

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>>102109300
why the fuck are these niggers, and no one else, comparing windows 10 ltsc to this dogshit? fucking do something right for once

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>>102109474
Nah more like +75%

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>>102109534

>>102109413
Cracking sounds off. Whining would be the more common sound. Crackling across audio though would just be an electrically noisy environment.

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What chance do i have getting a real 7800x3d in the box instead of a IHS swap? Is it possible for resellers to reseal AMD cpu's with the factory seal?

>>102109573
do NOT trust that seller you will be scammed

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>>102109534
why would vbs aka botnet=off run WORSE then botnet=on?! makes ZERO sense
I think all these (((reviewers))) got severe brain damage from too many booster shots and now their IQ is too low to format their data correctly

>>102109573
You can buy a 7700 from legit non aliexpress store for $200 don't fall for the 3d meme

>>102109573
is this a high rating ali store? because I got 7700x factory sealed proper with chinese characters on the box, looked funny, but it is was the correct cpu

>>102109413
does crackling happen once or twice or constant? if it happens just when you start gaming for exmaple and then stops, it's fine, it's plastic
70-80C is not hot. 95-110C is hot.

Thoughts on using dental floss as a poorfag for GPU support?

>>102109659
if it works it works

>>102109659
check if it doesn't bend under certain weight, you want a plastic wedge ideally so it's not conductive, just in case

>>102108348
>Logitech G502 X
can I have that wireless and with silent clicks?

>>102109667
Just have to figure out exactly where to tie it.
>>102109676
Dental floss is not conductive, what are you on about.

>>102109700
The clicks are pretty loud, that's the price you gotta pay for durability.
>wireless
That'll be 150$, sir.

>>102109722
>>wireless
>That'll be 150$, sir.
fuck that, all I need is 500hz, I don't need ultra fast wireless mouse, I need a comfy wireless mouse
>The clicks are pretty loud, that's the price you gotta pay for durability.
I ahve g403 now wireless, 8 years old, still holds battery a 3-4 days, but since I'm not using headphones during the day clicks are killing me.

>>102109751
No clue about the G403, but if you're familiar with the G502 Hero the clicks on the X are noticeably louder. I can't into wireless mice, I'll only use mine for desktop. If I need mice for my laptop or any other reason where mobility matters, I'll just get some cheap shit that I can break/lose and don't lose any sleep over.

>Move your cursor from the left side of your screen to the right
>and back
>do it again while looking at your mouse
>see how little you actually move the mouse
does it really needs to be wireless?

Any hope that the 5000-series GPUs will have 3080-tier performance on the xx60-70 end? I'm thinking of biting the bullet and just grabbing one on ebay because of how unappealing the current market for new cards is, and because some people are selling those cards for almost the same price as a 4060ti in fucking Canada.
Just want to get back to using VR because the A770 still doesn't seem to support it after nearly 2 years.

>>102109839
True, but I like wireless because I can throw it in my bag without cables cluttering. If it always stays on a desk I wouldn't mind a cabled mouse

>>102109839
I got a habit of spinning vertically. Calms me down. And it feels lighter,. When I charge mine it's wired, but taking cable off is liberating.

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>>102109864
Do you not have a tie and the patience to do this?

>>102109859
The 4070 already has similar performance to the 3080. I doubt the 5060 will match it but it might be close on average - losing mainly in games with high memory bandwidth requirements.

>>102109909
>Do you not have a tie and the patience to do this?
For long term storage? Absolutely.
Doing that several times a day? Hm, that would put my patience to the test. Mouse may end up flying during a heated moment.

>>102109611
you want it enabled but not running. its a weird windows quirk.

>>102109948
Why the hell do you need to move your mouse around several times a day. If it's for your job or something just buy a cheap wireless, it'll do just fine.

>>102109981
>Why the hell do you need to move your mouse around several times a day. If it's for your job
Bingo. On a normal day I change locations at least five times. You'll learn to appreciate setting things up fast.

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That settles that then

>>102110042
Alright, then if I was in your case I would do what I already recommend twice by now. Personally, I'm clumsy enough I just KNOW I'd drop it within a few months. Look for >50$ options on RTINGs and other reviewers, I'm sure you can find something that's at least as large and heavy as the G403.

>>102110087
why would the bot rec 4070 ti over 4070 super

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>>102109559

It's definitely a physical sound

>>102109658

It's not constant and I think it's more related to components getting heated up. I guess it should be fine though I catch myself periodically checking whether the GPU support is doing its job. It's one of those mounted underside, instead of a pillar that can be placed on the ground. I have considered getting a pillar but I don't want it to mess with the airflow and the bottom of my case doesn't seem durable enough

>>102110087

Releasing a <16GB VRAM card in 2024 should be punished by law

Choosing the motherboard is the worst part of any pc build. I hate motherboard makers so fucking much it's unreal.

>>102110157
The only game out there that utilizes 16gb is Portal: RTX at 4K native

>>102110111
It probably meant 4070 Ti Super but it's too retarded to communicate that

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>>102109859
>Any hope that
There's always hope :)
>my hope:
5060 is basically a 4070. Same amount of vram, same bandwidth. Maybe more efficient. Let's say 150w instead of 200w. Price $399
>The 5060 Nvidia will probably give us:
Price $349 :) But... 4060Ti performance. 8gb (ugh). 128bit bus.

We will see. Hope my negativity is unfounded.

>>102110157
That's how they get you. Both cards perform well enough with each other but 16GB really is what you want if you plan on getting true value for your money so they push you towards the 4080. Those 12GB cards will need an upgrade faster than people realize.

>>102110185
there are spreadsheets that list all the vrms

>>102110185
Well that's what this thread is for. What are you looking for in your motherboard anon

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>what I wanted
8 sata ports
>what I expected
6 sata ports
>what I got
4 sata ports

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>>102110240
I hope AMD doubles DXR performance and gives us Polaris II.

>>102110498
MSI 650 boards have enough ports on AM5 side.

Is it safe to get pc parts shipped? or should I spend a bit extra to pick the parts up in-store for the peace of mind

>>102110546
CPU - 100% safe
RAM - 90% safe
Board - 70% safe, mine came from china in mint condition, but who knows.
GPU - get a full warranty from a store.
But seriously, how do you think sotres get their parts? it gets there in the trucks too.

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>>102110546
it's very safe

>102110240
>We will see. Hope my negativity is unfounded.
you are too optimistic, anything under the 5080 will be just as shit as the current lineup if not more

>>102110564
gpu boxes have at least an inch of strong foam on each side

>>102110600
yea, but the risk is also much higher because it costs as much as rest of components.

>>102110568
Damn. Time must feel soooo slow on that job

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HUB might not be full of shit after all....
>https://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.php/artikel/hardware/prozessoren/64313-optimierte-sprungvorhersage-zen-5-mit-windows-11-24h2-getestet.html

Anyone remember how long before the release of the rtx 40xx series we knew the specs for sure?

>>102110693
>>102110693
>>102110693
>>102110693

>>102110691
>for sure?
Depends on what you mean by that, but kopite7kimi leaked the specs months before release. I would expect that we'll know the specs for the 5090 and 5080 at least, maybe 5070 as well, before too long

>>102107686
insane how big of an increase in fps that windows update is

>>102104352
I wonder if nividia will release a 10000 series cards, or if they'll just change their naming scheme by then