remember not to buy amd gpus or intel cpus (until they release good ones later this year)

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>>102119794
You are wrong.

3080ti or 7900 gre? Also how better at 1440p dlss quality is better in both visuals and performancw than fsr or even native resolution?

>>102119833
FRS is the worst of the upscalers but you need to like watch youtubers explain how and when it sucks.
just wait for 5080

>>102119833
they're basically the same performance, if they're the same cost why not get the new card?

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>>102119759
>Web browsing: 12100, 5600G

>>102119858
Cuz reading pcbg i have notice an argument if its worth getting amd due to nvidia being superior in dlss by achieving even better quality than in native resolution.

>>102119878
you mean the one nvidia shill?

I'm a bit stuck in analysis paralysis:
>have a 60hz 4K monitor
>would like to buy a new PC plus a higher refresh rate monitor
>feel like getting a non-oled at this point is a waste of money
>sticking to my 60hz would be a waste of computer power
>buying everything I want is out of budget
>current PC is too old to upgrade individual parts gradually

So the options are do nothing, upgrade PC and stick to old monitor, upgrade PC and buy "alright" high refresh monitor, or stop being poor (lmao lol)

>>102119910
Aint lurking that often to tell whos shilling and not.

>>102119919
you would benefit the most from buying a 1440p 360hz qd oled
great for esports, great for single player with hdr, great for media watching with hdr, will be optimal for whatever pc you get later on

>>102119919
Stop being retarded, we are tired of reading your whine here everyday.

>>102119858
The AMD is like half the cost.

>>102119938
wtf, and the 3080ti is used?

>>102119931
What the fuck are you talking about? Link to previous posts or be declared a faggot for ever.

>>102119950
Yeah, 3080ti with warranty till 2027for 500 euros ir 7900gre new for 530.

>>102119960
Cry me a river, spineless cuck.

What tool should I use to unbloat a fresh windows 11 install ? I heard something about unattended files

>>102119968
>till 2027
I'm optimistic, I think RDNA5 going to happen in 2026

>>102119950
New ones are like 900. No clue what would possess you to buy a used GPU.

>>102119739
Thanks for motherboard suggestions.

what's the most optimal fans I can get for my budget(7 fans for 250-300)?

The setup is 3 120mm intake in front, 3 120mm intake on the side, 360mm Aio top exhaust, and a 140mm fan on the back as exhaust. Hoping that can cool a 4090 + 7800x3d

Here's my list again
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7s4pt7

>>102119981
https://youtu.be/WyLiJl-NQU8
here you go, do it carefully though, don't mark all the checkmarks, read up on things you do not udnerstand

>>102119968
GRE every day.

>>102119919
I decided to do nothing, I can buy 4k OLED, but it's going to turn me into shizo worrying about "the issues", and I can't bring myself to pay $1k for a VA panel. Dual layer OLED we wait.

>>102119993
You can get any fan with that kind of budget
If you want SL Infinities, just get all 7 of them. 7800x3d isnt a hot processor so it can get away with low tier cooling so you don't need good fans like the a12x25 at all

>>102119833
5090 no contest.

I think the lowest for each upscalers should be

DLSS 1080p quality
FRS 1440p quality
XeSS 1440p Performance

I wouldn't go lower than this.

>>102119872
elaborate

>>102120053
DLSS and only DLSS. It's alien tech when you compare to the other 2 upscalers. I would attach an image but I'm on mobile right now.

>>102120067
>mobile shitter is a dlss cultist
This shit writes itself.

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KB1587 lowered my CPU temps too, huh.

>>102119833
My 79xtx doesn't 3440x1440p native 60-120fps+ so I'd recommend that for future proof

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Do I need to change my GPU thermalpad when repasting? Can I just use thermalputty instead of pad?

>>102120244
you can putty

>>102120244
yes you can use putty but you don't need to change them unless you think they're falling apart basically.

>>102120059
2200G/i3-10100 are more than capable of providing a decade more of butter smooth browsing experience.

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>The KB5041587 update, now available as an optional update for Windows 11 23H2, should yield the same performance uplift as the optimizations in the 24H2 update, AMD confirmed today.
no updates for Intel?

>>102120472
watch the HWUnboxed video, there's some uplifts for Intel too but its on a case by case basis and its mostly scheduling being shit with AMD.

>>102120189
how much lower?

>AMD was winning with its hands tied behind the back
its Intelover

>>102119759
Holy shit. No 13th or 14th gen Intel recommendations.

GPU recommendations from AMD.

OP is not a corporate cocksucking shillbot for once.

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>>102120472
>this commentary

>>102120541
This thread was made while the nvidia shill is sleeping

ok, after some research, there are two types of people

1. people who say 32" is too big for 1440p
2. people who have had a 1440p 32" screen

I have my choices down to three... incomming

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I know this is not a laptop thread but I figured you guys could help me out.
I'm using this SYY 157 thing that some people recommend for GPUs and laptop CPUs. After 2 months of a repaste job and not noticing much of an improvement, shit kind of getting bad really, I noticed this. I put a bit too much paste, but only half of it got covered properly.
How can I make dead sure that when pressure is placed on the heatsink this doesn't happen? I used a spread method to ensure that the corners were also covered because as I understand it's necessary for an uncovered die to be completely covered.

>>102120560
I've tried 1440p on 32" 4k monitor and it honestly doesn't look that great

>>102120501
3-4C at very light tasks like playing a video, which is a lot

>>102120567
Too much paste, it has to be a few atoms-layered.

>>102120560
I was #1 until I got a 1440p 32" for my dad. It's just fine

>>102120567
Get PTM7950 pads.

>>102120567
improvement relative to what?
What do you hope to happen?

>>102120596
So too much paste is actually bad? I guess I need to investigate more on this
>>102120611
Anywhere I could grab these in europe?
>>102120627
I'm hoping to get something lower than 95C and obnoxiously loud on a ryzen laptop when opening photoshop

>>102120652
the heat and fan noise can be controlled with software
you can disable pbo, do -20 volt curve offset, set max fan speed to 10% lower so its not annoying, set max thermal limit to like 85 or something

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How much should I ideally raise the GPU curve by? Is it something you just gotta figure out yourself? I did a +149 and then flattened at my desired point. Strangely enough according to HWiNFO the max core clock isn't 2834 (what I set it at, stock is 2835) but 2820, which is fine, doesn't really matter much, since the -0.1 voltage drop is pretty good. It's been stable like that for days and I got slightly better benchmark scores. Should I raise it more? Is there a risk of long-term damage by unintentionally starving the GPU of its voltage input?

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>>102120560
Most anons here and ESPECIALLY /v/ don't know how far from their screen they should be sitting. While personally as desk depth is not infinite I feel 1440p is not enough for 32" at the very least anon make sure you CAN sit within the ideal viewing range.

>https://stari.co/tv-monitor-viewing-distance-calculator
>https://www.benq.eu/en-uk/knowledge-center/knowledge/whats-the-best-viewing-distance-for-a-1440p-gaming-monitor.html

>>102119759
LG UltraGear 32GP750-B
>Colour Gamut: sRGB 99% (CIE1931)
>Brightness 400 cd (typ) / 320 cd (Min)
>Contrast Ratio 1000:1 (Min.), 700:1 (Typ.)
>nice looking base
>HDR 400

ViewSonic VX3219-2K-PRO-2
>Colour Gamut sRGB137% size (Typ)
>DCI-P3: 95% coverage (Typ)
>NTSC: 97% size (Typ)
>Brightness 250 cd/m2 (typ)
>Static Contrast Ratio 1,200:1 (typ)
>HDR 10
>ok base

AOC Q32G3SE
>Colour Gamut NTSC 99% (CIE1976) / sRGB 122% (CIE1931) / DCI-P3 91% (CIE1976)
>Brightness (typical) 250 cd/m2
>Contrast Ratio 3000 : 1 (Typical) 80 Million : 1 (DCR)
>HDR10
>ugly base

And one more that is more expensive... maybe too much really
MSI G321Q
>Adobe RGB / DCI-P3 / sRGB 90% / 93% / 123%
>Brightness (nits) 300
>Contrast Ratio 1200:1
>DCR 100000000:1

I'm struggling to understand what the differences really mean here. The LG has good brightness but doesn't have good colors?

>>102120667
Undervolting just causes crashing if it isn't enough juice. Overvolting is where damage can occur.

I want more of an art productivity angle, as I don't really care about gaming.
I watched videos and every time its literally just buy amd because of gaymen but no one talks about rendering, and what I mostly want art etc stuff. Since I'm on a budget I wanted the 4060ti with 16gb but specifically this card is heavily dissed every time I looked on information about it, because it underperforms in gaming, but I don't really give a fuck about gaming.
Should I still buy into it, or rather go towards the 70's, but those are like +150eur more here in yurop.

>>102120589
>I've tried 1440p on 32" 4k monitor and it honestly doesn't look that great
that's not the same. 1440p doesn't work on a 4k monitor. the resolutions don't match. You can run 1080 on a 4k, the same way you can run 720 on a 1440

>>102120688
I see. Does it vary model by model how much of an undervolt it can take before instability arises?

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To all the Intel FAGS who kept insisting it wasn’t windows causing performance issues for Zen 5,

lol, lmao even

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>>102120251
>>102120255
Thanks fampai.

>>102120652
>Anywhere I could grab these in europe?
they sell real ones from Ali, just check out the store not to get scammed

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>>102120674
Gamuts are essentially standards that cover certain percentages of the visible spectrum, while it isn't linear as some are tuned for different uses what matters is srgb is fucking ancient and a pathetic amount of colour next to what the human eye can see which is why these modern panels - especially those that do real HDR - get listed as doing well over 100% of srgb because the wider gamuts (like DCI-P3) cover MOAR COLOUR. Attached pic is a visualisation of this.

Brightness is a mixed bag, IN THEORY the standard paper white (as in, what an actual sheet of A4 paper looks like) is 120cd/m which is also an old standard but for many it is fine. I personally like using about 200cd/m for daily brightness.

Contrast ratio is straight up moar = better

HDR gets involved but for LCDs really the only one that matters is DisplayHDR 1000. Check to see if RTingsh ave review of those screens as they do some good testing (along with TFTcentral)
>https://displayhdr.org/performance-criteria/

>>102120712
Zen5 is still only 2% faster than zen4 anon

>>102120674
AOC is using a VA panel, it has unfixable motion blur, why would anyone do that?

>>102120763
VA looks good in stills and are cheaper to make

>>102120674
>>Contrast Ratio 1000:1 (Min.), 700:1 (Typ.)
it means it's shit.
monitor color depends on calibration more than the panel itself, you can have two monitors with same exact panel tuned wildly differently

>>102119919
your monitor will hold you back if you get a new PC.
A new monitor will make you wish you had a better PC.
the smart thing to do is buy the parts you want and upgrade step-by step. Like new mobo + cpu + RAM, new PSU, new GPU, SSDs, case etc.

>>102120760
imbecile.

>>102120709
Yes - that is just manufacturing variance. You might be able to undervolt lots or even a tiny decrease might crash, you just need to find out that yourself. For example I have a 7900xtx - out of the box it runs 1150mv. If I use the auto undervolt option in adrenalin it picks 1125mv. However after doing extensive testing if I manually set 1115mv it is stable, but 1110mhz will intermittently crash in some games.

>>102120787
XTX needs 1.1v?
My XT runs 1050mv 2300mghz sustained at 200w, feels great.

>>102120787
Alright, I'll test it more for a week and then undervolt it again to 975mv and see if it can take it. It runs cool enough even on stock but I'd like to cut down on the power consumption of my system.

>>102120755
>Brightness is a mixed bag, IN THEORY the standard paper white (as in, what an actual sheet of A4 paper looks like) is 120cd/m which is also an old standard but for many it is fine. I personally like using about 200cd/m for daily brightness.
this was very helpful, and i thought to check my old monitor's specs

My last monitor was 250, and it was more than bright enough. It was also a VA panel with P3 90%, and had 8ms g2g...

>>102120820
XT has less coars and clocks so naturally it needs less voltage in. Plus at 200w you are power capping and v/f is not linear - I would actually expect you to be hitting more like 1v at that power limit.

>>102120787
>>102120822
Forgot to mention the GPU is a Gigabyte Gaming OC 4070 Super.

>>102120773
i see... my last monitor was also VA i just disovered. So it wasn't awful but still, i won't buy one like that again. They were very cheap though

>>102119833
>Felling for the frame gen/upscaling meme
Raw performance always triumps

>>102120839
I put clock to 2300 limit, didn't touch power.
It's comfy enough, with RT it goes to 250ish.

>>102120846
What actual gpu it is doesn't matter, it is just finding that spot where it stays stable. I would find the most stressful game you play and play for 30 mins to get it nice and warm (temps matter for stability) and then nudge voltage down 10mv, play for another 30 mins and see if it holds. Keep going until it doesn't and then go back to the last known good voltage. I would not advise using synthetic tests.

>amd
>releases patches to improve performance over time
>Intel
>releases patches to downclock their CPUs and flush their registers to patch security flaws
I know which I prefer more

Hello /pcbg/
I come to you at a time of great need. Do I have the option of upgrade, or should I get something of current standards?
80% gaming 20% web browsing
>current build - 1080p
Monitor: ~24" Acer Nitro IPS 180hz 0.5ms (xf243ym3)
CPU: i5-8600K @4.1GHz
CPUC: Dark Rock Pro 3 (dual fan)
MOBO: MSI Z370 Tomahawk
GPU: GTX 1070 8GB
RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8 GB 3000/CL15
PSU: EVGA(yeah) BQ 650W.

>>102120784
As one other anon looking to move from a 1080p TN panel after nearly 14 years, and on a machine nearly half that age, I suppose that makes sense. 1440p is a lot of extra pixels to fill.

>>102120962
you can quite easily upgrade to a 12400F + a DDR4 B760 motherboard.
what kind of performance are you looking for?

LG UltraGear 32GP750-B
>DISQUALIFIED DUE TO POOR COLOR AND CONTRAST

ViewSonic VX3219-2K-PRO-2
>Colour Gamut sRGB137% size (Typ)
>DCI-P3: 95% coverage (Typ)
>NTSC: 97% size (Typ)
>Brightness 250 cd/m2 (typ)
>Static Contrast Ratio 1,200:1 (typ)
>DCR:50mil:1
>HDR 10
>ok base

AOC Q32G3SE
>DISQUALIFIED DUE TO VA PANEL

And one more that is more expensive... maybe too much really
MSI G321Q
>Adobe RGB / DCI-P3 / sRGB 90% / 93% / 123%
>Brightness (nits) 300
>Contrast Ratio 1200:1
>DCR 100mil:1

The MSI is so much more expensive, and it's "HDR ready" instead of HDR 10...

Should i go for thaViewsonic?

>>102120962
Old intel platforms aren't very upgradeable
It's more worth it to move to a new CPU platform
You can easily reuse your 650W PSU and cooler by going with lower power parts like the 7800x3d (50-90W draw) and 4070 super (180-220W draw). The 7800x3d is also the fastest gaming CPU and recently got even faster with the new windows 11 optimization patch

>>102120962

1. buy the identical ram. and i mean identical. the exact same ram from the same brand.
2. upgrade GPU. you can get 1080ti's so cheap now
3. get a 27-32"1440p monitor, i'd recommend the 32" and make sure it has a high refresh rate

I hope you have at least an SSD

>>102121010
Just to hit and sustain 60 FPS at 1080p, with settings set to medium(minimum) at current games I hope.

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>>102121082
1080p is pretty redundant these days with the power gpus have and upscalers

>>102121061
Isn't buying an additional ram like that still a coin toss?

>>102121082
1070 is already adequate then, outside of edge cases

>>102121126
It is a coin toss for common ram speed/timings like 3000c15

>>102121126
Depends on the store and manufacturer, usually ram will be marked without the exact model and revision.

>>102121126
with DDR4 it can be if the newer ram is different inside.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTS0ybQ3lCI

so perhaps just get some more ram and replace your old sticks? DDR4 RAM is cheap now

>>102121061
apart from getting an SSD this isn't the best advice, a 1080ti is an old card now and have been through two rounds of crypto mining, for context a 6600XT has basically identical performance. 16gb is mostly usable and I wouldn't want to try to match the kit, might as well just go AM5 and go to a 32gb kit.

>>102121082
what is your budget?

>>102121133
yeah 1070 should be fine and they could upgrade it when it eventually dies or the performance feels lacking

>>102121082
set resolution to 720p or lower
if you can hold 60 like that all you have to do is buy a new graphics card
if it still dips you also have to replace your cpu

>>102120560
I have a 1440p 32 inch screen and its fantastic. The big problem with small screens is that the UI for everything becomes smaller with it. Thats fine if theres scaling but most programs dont give you the options to make the UI bigger. I dont want to have to lean into my screen 24/7 to be able to see things.
4K in 27 inch must be an eternal game of finding waldo

>>102121227
Muh pixel density
Muh sweet spot

I will go.insine if I see one more video where someone called 27" the sweet spot for 1440p because they read that on the internet

>>102121184
1080ti is more than 50% faster than a 1070

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1080-Ti-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1070/3918vs3609

>>102120968
>1440p is a lot of extra pixels to fill.
1440p is much nicer than you may think. I couldn't stand being on a 1080p card when I got a 1440p monitor a long time ago. It's one of those things that you don't really mind until you see how big of a change it actually is.

>>102121184
If I go for new setup then 1000$-1200$ (local store can hook me up for ~50$ a month inb2y plan)
If i go for parts only then 500$ cash

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Is RTX 3080 to 4080/4080Super a sensible upgrade?
I really want to replace my 3080 FE with something quieter and more power efficient.
yes, I have undervolted and changed the thermal pads since Day 1 of owning the card (3 years ago) and it's still a loud bitch when it goes above 250W

>>102121307
Buy a used 3090

>>102121307
lower the power limit below 250W or deshroud and strap 120mm fans to it

>>102121268
>userbenchmark
this website is trash for a multitude of reasons, for GPU comparisons use techpowerup.
the 1080ti is 33% faster than the 1070, and if the anon is only looking for 60fps there's no point going with some other used card.

>>102121271
you can go AM5 for $390
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZN78Rv
do you have a cooler for your current system?
do you have an SSD?

>>102121317
>Buy a used 3090
fuck no
>>102121321
>lower the power limit below 250W
I tried but performance and clock speeds are noticeably worse
>deshroud and strap 120mm fans to it
I wish I could but it's a FE. I considered buying a water block but I don't like loose liquids in my PC.

>>102121344
use a blower card for a week then go back to the 3080

>>102121360
It's really not a bad card but the two slow+ two fan design can only take you so far when it comes to cooling. I'll be on the lookout for 4080 cards at a reduced price when the 50XX series comes.

>>102121307
Is the 4080 much quieter than than the 3080? The TDP going from 320 watt to 280 watts would somewhat help but you are complaining about noise issues that start at 250 watts

>>102121269
>>102120784
>>102120968
ive been on 1440p for 10 years
they called me mad, said it was really dumb when 4k is right round the corner
they said it was a waste of money because any day now all consoles and games will be in 4k

WELL GUESS WHOS STILL PLAYING ON 1080p AND IVE ON GLORIOUS 165hz 1440p AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

>>102121332
Thanks. I was thinking about going mATX. Yes I do have SSD and cooling but I need to find the box with parts inside If I want to go for AMD socket.

My thanks to the rest of anons that replied.

I hate when people put their giant ass PC RGB coffin on a desktop, always looks ugly and it takes desktop space for no reason.

>>102121429
It sure is warming up my albow and forearm when there's a cold day.

>>102121426
yeah, most ATX boards are more expensive these days because vendors need those extra margins... here is what I would buy if I had $500 burning a hole in my pocket and I were in your situation but if you're fine with the storage you've got then you can skip the SSD.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Q7RCjH

>>102121126
Yes. When I built my current system I bought 2x8gb G Skill. About a year later I decided to buy another 2x8gb. Same manufacturer, same exact model, same SKU. One pair has Hynix chips, the other pair is Samsung.

>>102121397
>Is the 4080 much quieter than than the 3080?
depends on the model and the coil whine but 4080's have much better efficiency and undervolting potential. You can get really decent performance at under 200W
>>102121423
almost 7 years on 1440p and I share the same feeling.
>stopgap resolution
my fucking ass
enjoy your shit console games that render below 1080p and "upscale" to """4k"""" dumb cunts. I will enjoy my clear, native 1440p for at least a couple more years.

>>102121457
wait ignore that, that's the wrong board. derp.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kdbc28

>>102121429
>I hate when people put their giant ass PC
I like looking at it. It brings me joy to know that I have something that I use every day.

I'm on twin 24" 1080p monitors and I'm not upgrading until 32" 4k 144hz OLEDs are cheap enough for a poorfag like me.

>>102121515
see you in 15 yrs

>>102121269
I mean, I'll most definitely see a difference for sure, but I'll probably wait after assembling a new machine or some shit. Coasting on a GTX1080 in the meantime until then.

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>>102121618
that's fine.

>5060 8GB VRAM

Watch the 5070 have 12GB.

>>102121486
>>stopgap resolution
i forgot they called it that

what is it, a 70% increase in resolution? and 4k is more than double 1440p?

4k is such a massive leap over even 4k, only top 4000 cards can really do it, maybe 5000 cards will be able to do it more comfortably, but i don't see it be coming standard until at least the 6000 series

There really should have been a 3k resolution standard at some point, the jump between 1 to 2 to 4 and now people are discussing 8k is absurd.

>>102121515
why?

you can get 170hz 1440p 27" screens for under $300 right now.

I am about to buy this

https://www.pccasegear.com/products/65012/viewsonic-vx3219-2k-pro-2-qhd-165hz-32in-gaming-monitor

please stop me if something is wrong with it

>>102121681
Well you're buying a monitor with ppi of 92, 250 nits peak brightness and contrast ratio of 1200:1

>>102121665
>and now people are discussing 8k is absurd.
we need whales to carry us into tomorrow, will be nice when 4k becomes new 1440p though
gddr7 should help a lot

>>102121712
he wants a 32" but doesn't want to pay 4k tax

I'm afraid for the future of out apu's with 8k monitors becoming more mainstream or 4k for that matter.

>>102121754
given gpus already gave up on 4k and we're at most upscaling from 1440p to 4k with dlss I don't see 8k ever becoming a thing

>>102121754
nah, far from it, 4k is hard to drive nobody wants it
forever generation away

>>102121665
Well, 8k is probably the most important resolution so far due to every other resolution throughout history scaling up to it perfectly, even useless meme resolutions like 720p or 1440p. So once it becomes common, it's there to stay.

>>102121783
ha, never occurred to me that 8k scales with everything, too bad we are 20 years away from it.

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Give me 24" 2k or 4k idc. I dont want bigger monitor.

>>102121712
>>102121746
i have had 1440p 32" before. It is a nice experience. the peak brightness is the same as my last monitors and they are good enough, but what's with the contrast ratio?

my old cheap screen had a contrast of 3000-1 according to the online listing, but everything i look at now is 1000 or 1200. what's going on?

>>102121783
>useless meme resolutions like 720p
720p was world changing. it brought higher than SD resolution to the masses

>>102121882
you had a VA, it's an IPS
better angles, no ghostly apparitions with motion

>>102121783
>useless meme resolutions like 720p or 1440p

>1440p

>meme res

autism

If 4k is to be mainstream, hdds need to become cheaper and bigger.

>>102117951
Intel needed a new whole OS (W11) for their estrogen core arch to work properly so STFU Intelshill

>>102121906

ive checked the AOC VA panel i was looking at, and yeah you are right, it's also 3000-1

So it's either a VA panel with better contrast, or
an IPS with washed out colors?

>>102121926
theres some mentally ill autists who adopt some insane proposition that 1440o looks awful for some magical reason and aren't bothered by the fact that no one else believes in the same thing and no proof existst to support their magical thinking

>>102121938
>HDDs
what year is it?

>>102121952
you can buy oled with infinite contrast
theres some 27" 1440p 360hz monitors around 700-800€ these days

Nobody in the entire planet has tested performance on windows 10 vs windows 11 new patch on 7000 series ryzen processor prove me wrong.

>>102121978
w10 scheduler is 5 years old, nobody updated the thing

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>>102121968
>700-800€ these days
mfw

>>102121938
they are bigger and cheaper, 16Tb costs like $140

>>102121665
native 4k is unachievable because the industry does not optimize for it. The best you can do at 4k is upscale from 1440p or 1080p and even then it looks like dogshit in motion, especially when you're got 30fps or 60fps to work with.

>>102121968
>theres some 27" 1440p 360hz monitors around 700-800€ these days
there really aren't since they all cost 1000€ or more.

>>102119833
5090ti for 1080p minimum. They are updating the sticky right now. Approximately 10fps max in pong.

The sarcasm is clear, although its a parady of the fucksticks who think you need a 4070 super for 1080p resolution.

This board is a joke.

>>102122003
what monitor you ahve? if it's 144hz, go to UFO test and run to UFOs, one is 144 and the other 72, I dare you to spot the motion clarity difference
same with 240hz/60fps, VRR is a scam.

>>102122016
https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/p/6110-4F8
https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/p/6117-048

>>102122002
Its around 300$ in my shithole.

>>102121994
they have to factor in some people misusing the monitors and getting burn in and replacing them before the warranty period is out

>>102121061
If someone is going to spend 1080ti money, there's no reason not to get a Titan Xp instead

Fuck my life, new pc build refuse to power. Dram led is on.
Gigabyte b650 eagle ax and corsair cl30
Leave it for 5min, try to clear cmos, what else can i try ?
Screen off, no post.

>>102121990
That's a good thing, right? It means new patches can't destroy the performance. Or?
Too bad nobody in the planet has done this simple test so we cannot know.

>>102122036
oh you are right, 16tb expensive, found 10tb Toshiba enterprise for $200

>>102122064
>That's a good thing, right?
it is not, zen is a tricky architecture just like intel e-cores, it's needs software assist

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Day 510 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.

>>102122028
>I dare you to spot the motion clarity difference
blind faggot. stop shitting up the threads with your awful opinions
>VRR is a scam
the only scam is me reading your post since youi robbed me of my time

>>102122035
impressive, but fuck paying 800€ for a PC monitor. You think they'll drop in price for black friday?

>>102122063
recheck your ram, try with one stick
it could take a while first launch too, so wait 10-15m, gigabyte is slow

>>102122063
Slot a2 b2 used too

VA with 3000-1 contrast vs IPS with 1200-1 contrast

>>102122103
I reinstall it twice, with just one and both sticks

>>102122107
VA contrast doesn't matter since it smears

>>102122100
samsung might, monitor should be the highest priority after GPU and audio, it is direct update to quality of life

>>102122107
I got samsung odyssey g6 which has decent contrast and pixel response times.
Im never going back to ips. Next monitor is either gonna be miniled Va or oled depending on price and if I feel like babying a monitor from burn in.

>>102122107
VA

>>102122088
https://www.testufo.com/
here, let me help you, spot a difference

>>102122139
The difference is night and day. OLEDs with blacklight strobing have even better image quality than my average IPS. What's your point?

Any leaks about when the rtx50 series should release?

>>102122159
do you even understand what I'm saying?
can you see big difference between 144 and 72 fps line or not? what monitor do you have 60hz?

>>102122176
>can you see big difference between 144 and 72 fps line or not
of course I can. It's half the refreshrate and the lower hz has lower motion clarity, as expected with LCDs

>>102122165
next year

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Rate my i5 2500k, SLI 560gt PC running windows 7 from 2011.

>>102122193
boomer tier

>>102122186
seriously? you can see the slightest blur added from the half? because I can see white lines clearly separated on 144 and 72, 36fps is where it goes to hell, 60fps the same but it's too out of sync anyway

>>102122193
You better have an optical drive in there.

>>102122224
in 2011 only luddites had optical drive, it went away by then

>>102122136
>>102122132
>>102122127
ARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH

>>102122193
Can it run Dota2? If yes 10/10.

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Am i alone in thinking curved monitors are fucking disgusting?

An ultrawide i understand, but this is just grotesque

>>102122250
?
Are you a pirate

>>102122270
no, samsung and dell still make them for some reason

>>102122222
>you can see the slightest blur added from the half?
yes motherfucker, I can. It's not that difficult to see.

>>102122222
CHEKCED

WASTED

>>102122288
I wish somebody did proper chase camera photos, because diminishing returns are so high it's not funny, blur is minimal 144/72 vs 144/144

ROG B650E with 7800x3d
been having insanely long POST times since I built this PC months ago, now it finally started to get annoying so I tried to enable memory context restore
it did make POST a lot faster but Windows just crashes on me with it
now the funny part, when I go back in the BIOS to disable it/restore everything to default settings the BIOS just freezes on save+exit
what the fuck do I do? and yes I know I kinda deserve it for buying ASUS products

>>102120567

Way too much paste.The part where you can almost see through it is how it should look before you put the cooler on. Put small blob on it and spread it around with bit of stiff plastic (something like a bag clip or piece of a cup lid works fine).

Best thermal conductivity is metal to metal, the paste is only there to fill up the microscopic parts where either metal bit isn't perfectly flat.

Some call it "buttered toast" style

https://koolingmonster.com/insights/what-is-the-best-thermal-paste-pattern-actual-performance-comparison

>>102122288
and you are saying you can't see awful blur from VRR when it goes down to 60hz? really? the fuck? 144hz/72fps is much clearer than VRR 60fps or even 80fps.

>>102122312
>I wish somebody did proper chase camera photos
literally every single RTINGS monitor review has these tests and OLEDs are far superior when it comes to motion clarity.

>>102122331
did update to lastest agesa? it takes like 30sec for me to boot on MSI b650, I boot once a day though.

>>102122345
nobody does UFO at 60fps/240hz, they won't be able to shill VRR as much
they do photos of 60fps/60hz which obviously looks like ass

>>102122331
update bios
maybe the ram speeds are unstable with mcr?

>mfw my B650M-HDV/M.2 + R5 7600 spends only 2 seconds in BIOS
haha, works on my machine.

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-rdna4-gpus-to-feature-48-to-64mb-of-infinity-cache

OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

AYYMDEAD IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT

>>102122383
now enable EXPO

>>102122274
yes, but more i am very frustrated and confused between IPS and VN panels. I miss when it was IPS good and TN bad.

I don't really play competitive games, but the idea of ghosting sounds awful

>>102122444
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/aoc/q27g3xmn is popular monitor these days
it doesnt have as bad pixel response time as VA panels of old had, its similar to odyssey g6 in terms of black smear, but it also has minileds for hdr

>>102122444
Now it is also simple, OLED good and the rest is bad. Just be rich and replace it every 3 years.

>>102119833
>dlss
>not gonna make it

>>102122254
I haven't updated my steam in awhile but Dota 2 ran perfect on it. The last Battlefield I played was battlefield 5 and it ran perfect on it too. For a 13 year old PC it's amazing what still runs.
>>102122224
You can see in the picture I have an optical drive on the top mount. It's a blu ray burner. It's how I can still install and use photoshop cs5 (the best photoshop).
>>102122202
thank you.

>>102122426
EXPO is already on

>>102122488
>aoc
fucking hate those red highlights though.

>>102122582
I agree
alternatively look at Odyssey G60SD at >>102122035

Lancool III or Antec Performance 1 FT? I'm leaning towards the Antec for the extra straps on the back and side, and the easier to remove front panel.

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>>102122582
I don't know what they do to the photos to make the highlights so red, I am looking at my 24g2 monitor and because it's a bit cloudy it looks more grey than red (but the red highlight is angled on the 24g2, it looks 100% black in some pictures, I think your monitor is flat with the monitor so it might be more noticeable).

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Trying to buy a vidya card and I found another scammer, what else should I ask him to do?

>>102122385
what is this hyperbole?

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LNLpt7
Any opinions on this? Where to cheap out on storage? I've had good stability with samsung always but the other stuff is identical.. besides these games and a lot similar I need to do UE5 dev and davinci resolve.. I really want to dump windows for linux mint and I really dont want to have to use windows 11/10 if I don't have to
3090 or whatever I find on ebay the rest is what I'm concerned about, especially what I can do with OS
Right now I'm on windows 10 on an i7 3770k and a 1070 ti
Microsoft is so fucking gay

>>102122674
What makes you think he is a scammer

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hey pcbg,
any good airflow atx/matc WINDOWLESS cases you guys recommend? I went for a bit of a meme acoustically treated corsair a few years ago and I feel like my system is running warmer than it has to. Not worried about price, really, but it seems like everything is for showing off rgb.

All I have inside my case is brown fans, so I'd rather have a mesh panel or something.

>>102122914
fractal north is the current go to pick

Looks like Zen 3 also benefits form 24H2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kF8xgjK_yQk

>>102122929
it has 2mm clearance for my nh-d15 and that's without the side bracket, which makes me a little nervous since I don't have easy returns where i live. Got any (wider) suggestions?

>>102122914
take the side panel off should improve your temps

>>102122985
reddit says it fits

>>102122914
Asus AP201 mesh.

>>102119919
>>current PC is too old to upgrade individual parts gradually
???
Post specs or gtfo faggot

>>102122914
the AP201, without fans, literally outperforms 99% of cases even with fans

>>102122985
There is 2mm for dark rock and 4000d and i build it hour ago with 2cm left off glass. I bet that it will fit.

On the other hand, gigabyte eagle b650 is shit, i got no chill to update bios now, but it will probably fix dram led and not giving post. Fucking dogshit mb.

>>102123012
it wont' torrent got 175 clearance and mine is a snug fit

>>102122985
look at torrent, I have it and d15, it fits but close, like 7mm or so

>>102123063
>AP201
>mATX case
why do you wish suffering upon your fellow men?

>>102123124
mATX is the best format

>>102123010
>take the side panel off should improve your temps
This I just ajar my side panel on my 10 year old system, nothing like good old open air

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My PC table has 3 monitors and I got an LG OLED TV to the left, I sometimes hook it up with a cable, just rotate the chair and grab a controller to play on it.

What's the easiest way to play with mouse and keyboard on the TV tho if I wanted to do that? Right now I can't because they would be sideways.

Sorry for photo quality I have a 2016 phone...

>>102122899
The fact that his Photoshop job was so fucking lazy. How hard is it to just take your shoe off, set out next to the item, and snap a photo? Pretty damn hard if you don't actually own the thing.

>>102123193
build a desk for mouse and keyboard
or put your monitors on the ground and drag the brown desk in front of the tv with your mousy and keyboard

>>102123239
Give him increasingly hard things to photoshop

why can I still not buy a 24" 1080p OLED?

>>102122270
I have a friend that has that really aggressive one 1500 or what ever, he says you literally don't notice it until someone mentions it. idk i think that nigga zooted

>>102123193
you need to either buy a differnet desk/sitting furniture and change how things are located
or
get rid of one of the monitors because why the fuck do you need so many, use 2 monitor arms that allow easily moving the monitors, setup the desk so it faces the tv, then when you want access to the tv move the 2 monitor arms so the monitors dont block the tv and use the tv

>>102123271
Curved monitors are fucking disgusting
I can understand an enormous one for a DCS super sim but casually it looks like ass, I want a flat portal not some crap warping the image I want to see

>>102123263
because nobody wants to make them, you'd need a separate line for 1080p panels

>>102119759
I can't wait for RX 8000

>>102123193
wireless mosue and keyboard for when you are playing?

Any /g/ recommended guides for optimizing hardware?

New to this shit and a lot of it is really confusing to me. Have been seeing some stuff about mobos having really bad default/auto settings.

>>102122024
Thank you for your feedback.
We understand your frustration and are working future enhancements to improve the user experience.

>>102123323
eh these days I mostly just enable xmp for ram, downlock cpu in bios and use msi afterburner for gpu so it eats a bit less watts

>>102123263
better question, 1440p 27" OLED under $500 when?

>>102123361
Possibly during Black Friday at the earliest.
Many models are sitting at $600-650 now, and one is at $550:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8KzXsY/innocn-27a1s-270-2560-x-1440-250-hz-monitor-27a1s
Otherwise I would expect next Summer to hit sub-$500.

OLEDs are garbage

>>102123438
its a shame they need to add like extra 200€ to the prices to balance out people who will return the monitors for burn in warranty

>>102123438
Ideally I want $300-350 so I wouldn't feel bad to throw it away in a year or two.

>>102123447
This it's just a panel, some are better than others

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>>102123447
like you wouldn't get one if you could afford to buy a new one every year

>>102123361
You have multiple options for a full 4k 160hz 27" monitors that are IPS, stop being a FREAK thinking OLED is so good it's worth paying $200+ extra for less resolution, less refresh rate.

>>102123450
production process is really complicated and yields aren't 100%
they have to print LEDs at sub sub pixel size without errors

>>102123488
enjoy your glow, fuck I miss my 23" 100hz Samsung CRT

>>102123471
that guy never used an oled monitor so he wouldnt because he doesnt know

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>>102123261
I did, he failed miserably. I asked for the same shoe turned on its side so the sole is visible along with a piece of mail addressed to the same name on his payment account, this is what I got. I was hoping someone more imaginative than me could come up with some random shit to string him along, but I just got bored and told him to fuck off.

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>>102119759
>https://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.php/artikel/hardware/prozessoren/64313-optimierte-sprungvorhersage-zen-5-mit-windows-11-24h2-getestet.html
5800x3d also benefits greatly from the 23H2 KB5041587 patch
zen3 bros we eating good

>>102123615
Now do a vs Windows 10 comparison...

>>102123615
>insider edition
another useless test

>>102123638
you can install the update right this moment, I did, made my CPU colder

>>102123638
>After the release of the Windows update KB5041587 for Windows 11 23H2 we have again implemented the benchmarks. We decided not to use the results with the Insider Preview 24H2 because they were not loadable enough in some games. Of course, we also looked at the criticism in the forum – but we cannot comment on comparing a benchmark with different settings. Also that we use an upscaling (DLSS and FSR) in some benchmarks may affect the results.
They removed the insider results and replaced are now comparing 23H2 pre-patch and 23H2 post-patch

>>102123488
>4k
most of us are gaymers, no video card supports 4k

>>102123615
it's weird how starfield got that much gains in this benchmark when in the hardware unboxed one they showed 0% gains

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>>102123774

Monitor guy here

I have an Idea. a VN panel as my 2nd monitor which is mostly used for watching youtube and other media. and an IPS panel for my main gaming screen?

I

>>102123061
Seasonic 750W
Asus Z97-A
16GB RAM (4 sticks)
GTX 970
i7 4790K
Some Raijintek cooler I don't fucking know
Some no name case I don't fucking know

>>102123271
the more agressive the worse it looks.

Ultrawide it looks fine, but when it's like a 24 or 27 incher wtf are you doin nigga?

ok, the examples at 28 seconds and 50 seconds convinced me, i need to get an IPS at least for my main monitor.

VN for the movie watching screen though maybe?

>>102123958
https://youtu.be/BKojsdVFCI8
of course i forgot the link

check the writing at 28 seconds, and the bench at 50 seconds

>>102119759
>pic
is that supposed to be a selling point or a warning

>>102123615
Can anything stop the 5800x3d!?

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>>102119759
ok, I gotta know
why should I avoid the 4000D Airflow
(even though I feel like avoiding it already as its ugly as fuck)

>>102123852
Still a good PC but if you wanted to upgrade, yeah, I'd suggest a full build. New CPU/GPU launches this year so hold out and you'll be at the start of the next generation.

Question: To get the AMD CPU performance update on Windows does it apply to Windows 11 LTSC out of the box? Or do I need a very specific KB update and if so which one?

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>>102124009
I learnt today that there are games other than cyberpunk and it blew my fucking mind.

>>102124009
i mean you can just gaym in 1080p and do everything else in 4k or whatever
lots of us already do this when on battery and also drop the refresh rate to 30hz for this reason.
high res is great for coding, documents, drawing, animatng, and such.

>>102120695
AMD is better for productivity too. Get a 7700X and a 4070s or 7900 GRE.

>>102124029
You need KB5041587

>>102124009
4K has always been a joke. It's an open secret that even a 4090 can't do 4K on top of the heat output, power draw, noise, etc. 1080p with high FPS 120+ is what you want OR 1440p 60 FPS if you wanna be fancy.

>>102124049
if I'm on 24H2 IoT LTSC does it apply already just by installing the iso or do I need a KB update?

>>102124035
>i mean you can just gaym in 1080p and do everything else in 4k or whatever
not when 4k monitors are 27-30" on average. the DPI makes it look like shit compared to a standard 1080p monitor

>>102121307
I went from 3080 to 4070S for efficiency and the all-black shroud. Performance is marginally better.

>>102124062
i don't know how to tell you this but most computers have the ability to utilize more than one display.
shitheadedness aside upscaling looks fine and most the time the lag's just from some stupid fucking raytracing nonsense that people barely notice when turned on.

I want a USB with multiple different OS to install on it. Is there any issue with loading W10, W11, Tiny10, and ubuntu onto a single USB? It will solely be a USB for installing the OS, not planning on dual booting anything. Will having that many on a single drive cause problems or will it be fine?

>>102123774
>>102123810
Its weird unless they tested different sections of the game

>>102124058
24H2 LTSC gets it from normal updates. KB5041587 is for those still in 23H2

Probably a dumb question but why doesn't Intel put more cache on the kf chips? I assume there's more space on the die without the igpu, or is it a problem of where the cache is located? Or does intelaviv just not care that much?

>>102124007
it was nerfed for a while afaik
at its launch, it beats/matches the 12900k with ddr5 6400
and before this patch, it barely matches the 12700k (smaller L3 and lower clocked 12900k)

>>102124110
kf chips physically have the igpu but its disabled at the factory

>>102121926
No, you have autism for getting offended at that instead of calling him out on 720p.

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>>102124106
cool, cheers.

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>>102124119
Sometimes it did, sometimes it wiped the floor with 12th gen.

>>102124091
Use vivaldi

>>102124062
>the DPI makes it look like shit compared to a standard 1080p monitor
1080p PPI 24" is 92, 1440p 27" is 109. 4k 27" is 163.

>>102124164
I'm talking average perf, not outlier perf
It was as fast as a souped up 12900k on average but recently fell to 12700k perf on average tested by HUB both times

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>>102124099
totes weird because >>102123615
>In Starfield, the Ryzen 9000 processors gain between 2 and 8%. The increase for the Ryzen 7 7800X3D is around 3%. The Ryzen 5 7600X benefits the most, increasing by 21.5%.

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>>102124142
Update was a success and system feels noticeably faster now but Task Manager is now broken.

dual monitors or a 40" ultrawide display?

https://www.pccasegear.com/products/64617/msi-mag-401qr-uwqhd-155hz-adaptive-sync-ips-40in-monitor

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Does pro B650M-B have a built in WiFi card or do I need to use a usd adapter like a fag

Why do poorfags get extremely triggered when you suggest to them that you need a newer OS when you use newer parts? So many of them swear by Windows 10 or some shit.

>>102124368
that's purely preference thing. personally dual, but i dont like fucking with windows arrangement and dont gayme much

>>102124420
because stupid people learn slow, to change OS is torture for them not a fun experience

>>102124420
they think its cool and shiet to use windows N-1

>>102124420
Anon, there are still deranged individuals using Windows 7 to this day.

>>102124420
You know what is fucking Grade-A bullshit? Windows 7 doesn't support my voodoo 2.

>>102124407
no antenna ports on I/O means no wifi.

>>102124407
>pro B650M-B
it doesnt
you can just use a pcie wifi card like a cissy

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>>102124449

>>102124449
I the best officially supported pc parts to sell to these fags
Where do I find them

>>102124499
>>102124499
>>102124499

>>102124449
that's me. i was waiting to upgrade my hardware first

>>102124420
Because I don't want the latest telemetry scanning, I want the outdated one they disabled on their end because they fucked it up so much
Why do you even want windows anymore? Microsoft is clearly your enemy at every turn

>>102124181
what part of 1080p on a 4k monitor gives you a disability?

>>102124080
>Performance is marginally better.
How is the noise and power draw?