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Nvidia shill is getting upset kek.
I've been in this game since cyrix and Voodoo existed.

>>102132018
Well, I guess that's one way to deal with GPU sag.

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Zen 1 chads, we eating good.

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>>102132018
Here's the high IQ graphics card recommendations (performance and features), instead of sorting by VRAM like someone who's never built a PC before

>GRAPHICS CARDS
1080p: RTX 3060 12 GB; budget: RX 6600; ultra budget: used RTX 2060 Super
1440p: RTX 4070 Super; budget: RX 7700 XT
2160p: RTX 4080 Super (at MSRP); budget: RTX 4070 Ti Super
Amateur production: RTX 3060 12GB, RTX 4060 Ti 16GB, used RTX 3090, RTX 4090

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>>102132090
oh my god...

>>102132114
This is the gpu list to follow if you update every 24 months fyi

>>102132090
as a linux user, imagine my smug smile of righteous superiority

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>>102132153
>every 24 months
VRAM hasn't helped the 6700 XT, which you recommended for 1440p less than two years ago

>>102132169
I will be joining you brother
Intel and Microsoft can suck my fat dick
They're all going to rope when they had every golden goose and shot them in the head and started doing nigger dances for the CIA and cutting their penises off to flail around bleeding everywhere

>>102132114
trash game for mentally retarded toddlers.

it's like Mickey Mouse and the irrelevant adventure, for Game Gear.

It's an asset flip pile of shitty garbage.

as a mentally retarded toddler, eho thinks rachel maddow is remotely objective or accurate, you'll love it.

>>102132188
I agree with everything you said. But, how will I convince the cia that I am to be trusted eoth the scissors around their cocks?

>>102132189
>trash game for mentally retarded toddlers.
Yeah call these ass "AAA" titles for what they are
Toddlers need to be shot in the fucking skull, come get on red orchestra

It’s so funny how I own this shill every time, heh

>>102132208
hahahhahahahhahahahhah

tripple a

the revenge of the mentally handicapped version of Asimov's Foundation

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Not having front glass panel really makes pc look outdated. I wish there was an o11 vision but for matx

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>>102132177
Here fucktard spammershill, wanna buy a matching pair of Xeons for Uber processing with your shitty upscaling? Only $699.98, USD.

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>>102132177
It seemth that it actually did

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It's not the 7800X3D but i got lucky with the price i got from amazon.

>>102132235
>tranime

>>102132235
front glass is for fans, don't become the pc slaver race

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>>102132235
Only faggots like the Nvidia shill use glass/acrylic side panels

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>>102132250
>fsr2 at 1080p
Enjoy

>>102132235
I like feet too

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>>102132273
>VRAM overflow at 1080p
Enjoy

>>102132260
front glass is less concerning than an anime sticker and it's not a sticker that's some fucking ipad with a child loli -_-

>>102132235
Based but also cringe.

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>>102132273
This retard probably hasn't even heard of a 260 core 216 kek.
You're insufferable and pitiful, posting the same fucking pics, over and over, nonstop.
Pretty sure you're a bot at this point since you know nothing about 10 series settings. Kys

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>>102132316
Sure there's a handful of games you have to optimize with a 3070
But you have to optimize nearly every new game with a 6700 XT, and most of the time you can't optimize enough. 1080p 30 FPS to 1440p 60 FPS is a tall order without DLSS

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>>102132354
> games you have to optimize
Based 5 fps 1% low optimizer

>>102132235
Glass panels are for children and fags.

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>>102132387
EZ
I'll show you what's not without DLSS, the best finewine to ever come to a graphics card

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>>102132410
> without DLSS
Because you can’t use DLSS or FG due to VRAM overflow

>>102132271
>amd fans malding immediately seeing 3070 ti

>>102132475
I'd consider nvidia if they revamped their hardware transform and lighting to reproduce accurate color like with AMD.

4060 cheap crap
4090 expensive, but LOTS of crap

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>>102132464
DLSS Super Res uses less VRAM
Frame Gen uses a little more
Imagine how well the 6700 XT would do in Cyberpunk 2077 with path tracing

>>102132569
rt is a crutch for devs who are basically transqueer

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>>102132569
> DLSS Super Res uses less VRAM
Poor fella

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>>102132635
Come now, you're not really retarded enough to try to say 4K DLSS Performance uses more VRAM than 4K Native TAA, or that people buy those graphics cards for 4K. Be realistic, like how the 6700 XT is forced to use FSR in every new game

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>>102132694
Oh, he doesnt even understand the situation…
We are observing even more defference between 2 similar GPUs, only VRAM buffer is different, going from 1080p native (1080p internal) >>102132316
to 4K DLSS P(1080p internal) >>102132635 , what happened? What caused this behaviour? LMAO

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>>102132768
DLSS Super Resolution (e.g., 4K Performance) uses less VRAM compared to full resolution (4K Native). Amazing that's too hard for you to understand. Anyway what you're posting is RT that's too demanding for the 3080 without DLSS. But let's go back to how poorly the 6700 XT aged compared to the 3070 in new games, not the shit tier PS4 ports you're posting

Any new game like this random Unreal Engine 5 game brings the 6700 XT to its knees, and while FSR is unusable, DLSS saves the day for the 3060 Ti and 3070

>>102132235
What would the people of the 90's think if they saw pc evolving into this? Was winning the war really worth it, did we really win?

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>>102132880
>question ignored
>VRAM stolen in the process
LMAO he lost

>>102132235
Pc is for computing not for glass rgbt puke

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>>102132898
>a problem with frame gen
You're too unobservant to see that DLSS Super Res by itself isn't have any problems in your own benchmark. But you're posting last gen games on outdated engines that easily run on the cards in question, not the demanding games of today

Oh look at this, another UE5 game where DLSS saves the 3070 and 3060 Ti

>>102132464
Don't you want your GPU to use all the resources available to improve performance? if there unused VRAM available don't you want your computer to cache it to improve the frame rate or avoid stuttering?

It's actually not optimal if it leaves unused vram/ram on table if it can be doing something if with it. Why are you saying this is bad thing?

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>>102133016
>DLSS Super Res by itself isn't have any

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Can't decide if Samsung G60SD for 765 euros, good or not? I know the risks, but still want it, damn. I dropped 4k idea, 1. too expensive 2. I don't think I can see the difference. 3. up keep is too expensive too, would have to buy top tier card again
Should I wait for dual layer OLEDs? Lament continues.

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>>102133028
I need an editor like you
Thank you for your service
Here's a full resolution vs DLSS vs FSR comparison in an AMD sponsored game as compensation

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>>102133016
> >a problem with frame gen
>Native vs DLSS P with the same internal resolution
KEK, where’s my VRAM? I’m using the same internal resolution, but for some reason my VRAM overflow is even worse
Why my DLSS doesn’t save me, whyiie

>>102133016
Hey faggot, explain to me how DSR and image scaling work again, since you're such an expert.
Oh wait, you can't.

Team red is lame

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>>102133039
As long as we are still dealing with non-RGB OLED the 4K models at significantly higher PPI hold a monumental advantage in clarity especially with fine text over the 1440p ones. LG will start tru RGB OLED production at the end of next year so maybe in 2026 1440p OLED will be as clear as their LCD counterparts. The Samsung G60SD in particular is the one QD-OLED with a matte finish compared to all the other 1440p QD-OLEDs being semi-gloss using the same panel which cuts against it's clarity and contrast:
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/compare/dell-alienware-aw2725df-vs-samsung-odyssey-oled-g6-g60sd-s27dg60/46678/63129?usage=4112&threshold=0.10

If it's the cheapest foot in the door OLED you can get in your market so be it.

>Should I wait for dual layer OLEDs?
I haven't heard anything about Tandem being considered for deskltop monitor sizes.

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>>102133081
>internal resolution
It's reconstruction, numbnuts. 4K DLSS Performance is, you guessed it, a full 3840x2160, not 1920x1080 like your dumb ass seems to think it is

Regardless, yet again you post a situation where the card isn't even strong enough for a 720p input (as even with frame gen it's only 60 FPS, meaning the base framerate is too low for Frame Gen), and bump the internal resolution up even higher. It's a situation with no practical relevance, and don't forget how the MUH VRAM radeon cards do in Cyberpunk 2077 RT Overdrive >>102132569

Have another UE5 title, one of the best looking out today. 6700 XT's VRAM really not coming out to bat, is it?

>>102132235
ouuuhhh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO9dCLsX8E4

>DLSS P ON
>DLSS RayReconstruction ON
>DLSS FrameGeneration ON
>LossLess Scaling FrameGeneration x4 mode ON
>LossLess Scaling FSR 1.0 ON
Yep, it’s gaming time

>>102133157
>I haven't heard anything about Tandem being considered for deskltop monitor sizes.
they said both tv and monitor in LG press release
dunno, people praise samsung original coating the most, they like it over msi or dell one
one dude even says 1440p =4k for samsungs
https://youtu.be/LM1fkcNNW0E
plus the cooling on samsung is the best, it's sort of important

This guy has managed to convince himself that VRAM doesnt matter and will buy the 5070 12GB at $859 when he finds out dlss 4.0 is only available on blackwell. How does NVIDIA do it? I might buy some NVDA on market open today.

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>>102133168
> 4K DLSS Performance is, you guessed it, a full 3840x2160, not 1920x1080
>DLSS mode Performance
>Internal resolution at 4K 1920x1080
https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/how-to-use-dlss/
OH NO NO NO, DLSS P is DLAA now, I guess

>>102133251
he got mind broken when nvidia released the 4070 super which utterly destroyed the 4070 in value and performance at nearly the same cost

>>102133251
nvidia going to drop like 30% next year, no matter the sales.

>>102133271
0070 is cursed by Nvidia, first it 770 which got murdered in less than a year, then 3.5/70, now 4070 got destroyed by super AND they removed GDDR6x from it and you can't buy it without -20% performance lotttery ticket

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>>102133253
DLSS 4K Performance builds a 3840x2160 frame
The graphics card transmits a native 4K signal
Honestly hard to tell whether you're obtuse or just trolling
https://imgsli.com/Mjc1OTk1

>more 4k on a low end card
Why even bring it up? AMD's muh VRAM supposed """"equivalent""" is even more garbage because it has to use FSR

>>102133291
Delusion

>Buttplug in
>AMD GPU on
Yep it's gaming time

>>102133313
I owned the damn 770, retard, I switched to 390 and then to 1070, to be disappointed by xx70 again. After 1070 I said fuck it, and it's 5700xt to 7900XT for me.

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>>102133337
It's amazing that you could think that the well regarded GTX 1070 was bad while singing the praises of the 5700 XT

>>102133251
>VRAM doesnt matter
VRAM only matters for raytracing and framegen, both of which are only worth using on Nvidia.
AMD literally admitted to this when they decided RDNA4 would not be serving the high end any more. It's over.

Shitpill me on the Antec Performance 1 FT. No I'm not buying a Torrent, it looks gay and retarded. The Antec has more functionality with the endless cable management straps and flaps. I would have gone for the ProArt case but it's 2 inches too tall for my table, and the Antec looks like the best pick for a non rgb build so that rules out fishtanks.

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>>102133313
> DLSS 4K Performance builds a 3840x2160
Oh, so now you’re starting to guess that DLSS isn’t a free lunch, we’re making progress

>>102133362
>well regarded
until it wasn't, I think you are missing the point here as usual

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>>102133393
>guess
I'm educating you
Why are Radeon's cards never in your comparisons? Oh right, FSR Frame Gen is in nogaems so most of your Frame Gen comparisons would have 0 FPS for Radeon, a big fat goose egg

>>102133493
The 1070 was always well regarded, AMDelusional

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>>102133514
> I'm educating
While telling that DLSS didn’t consume VRAM and then miserably failing? Kek
> Why are Radeon's cards never in your comparisons?
Because we are testing your VRAM claim by comparing same GPUs, right now it’s been proven false about… 7 times already? I didn’t count

Looking to expand from 16 GB of RAM to 32 GB. Should I sell off my pair of Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 8 GB sticks (2933 MHz) and get a new set of 8 GB sticks? Or can I just buy the same model? There is a shop that has the same model but they only have the 3200 MHz variant

>>102133572
Buy new 2x16 kit
Keep the 2x8 kit as spare or sell for $20

>>102133583
Is it a bad idea to fill all 4 slots?

>>102133384
the Torrent has an optional solid side panel and its gimmick is the 180mm intake fans and solid top panel for extreme wind tunnel action. That Trantec looks like pretty standard shit desu nothing special about it, it probably performs the same as any modern fishtank case. If you're dead set on whatever cable management stuff Antec has to offer then just redeem it and begone

>>102133572
what is your aim? just more RAM? can get x2 more sticks and be done with it, do not run it with xmp though, only in basic JEDEC specs
if you need fps or some shit, get x2 16 kit.

>>102133616
I do video editing as a side job now. 16 GB is fine but i notice it starts to slow down once the timeline becomes complex.

>>102133596
It's a bad idea to mix non-identical ram chips together

>>102133596
yes
4 sticks is a lot harder to run and tweak and the xmp profile is not guaranteed to work

>>102133596
at best you will be limited to the slower speed of the two kits
you may even have to go even slower when populating all 4 slots

>>102133649
>>102133651
>>102133658
Didn’t know that. Alright. I think i’ll just sell off my old sticks and get a new pair of 16 GB sticks

>>102133642
two more sticks should be fine, just do not use ram OC

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>>102133543
>While telling that DLSS didn’t consume VRAM
I didn't say anything of the sort, but then your best hope in this argument is lying. I said that DLSS Super Res consumes less VRAM than full resolution and Frame Gen consumes some additional VRAM

>rt + fg
Imagine that, another example where Radeon doesn't have Frame Gen (in other words it would get a 'Did not finish' rating) and would have to use extremely low quality FSR to have playable performance.

>your VRAM claim
My claim is that DLSS does more for a card's longevity than VRAM ever will and that no one who wants a long lasting card should buy Radeon. I've posted 10 separate recent games, each unplayable without DLSS, while you've posted a few cherrypicks from the same few games where Radeon doesn't even have feature parity (RT or FG)

I win, as always. Now what's really going to blow your mind is that DLSS Quality at 1440p or 4K is usually better than or equivalent to """native""", which means Radeon is a bad value the moment you click buy, because with Radeon you have have to pay the native tax, and it's a big fucking tax

My birthday is coming up soon, should I get a 7800xt or a 7900gre?

>>102133808
whats your usecase, watching anime?

>>102133808
If its only $60 more the GRE.

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>>102133733
> I didn't say anything of the sort,
> DLSS Super Res uses less VRAM
Proven wrong here and here VRAM consumption increased relative to native 1080p
>>102132316
>>102132635
> My claim is that DLSS does more for a card's longevity than VRAM ever will
DLSS doesn’t work when VRAM is overflowing, so it’s a useless feature without proper VRAM buffer as well as DLSS FG/FSR FG, so if your VRAM is filled then you can’t basically boost your FPS.
> doesn't even have feature parity (RT or FG)
8GB GPU with VRAM overflow can’t use RT, upscaling, FG either, while something with a bigger VRAM buffer can utilise FSR3 FG

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1_ZMmMWi_yA
>Spend 1000 on a OLED meme monitor
>Plaptastic qts laugh at your flickering because your system isn't powerful enough
Lol the absolute state of vrr OLED fags

>>102133808
Happy bday I got mummy milker to get me an a770 for mine until I found my 79xtx that runs at 3ghz
Get one of those got a sapphire pulse cheap for 850usd your basically getting 4090-4080s speed for half the price and a bit more power consumption

The industry bottleneck is not just at tsmc but also at hynix?
I remember the old days maybe 13 years ago when graphic card manufacturers would put way too much vram on underpowered garbage cards to fool the customers into thinking they got powerful card.

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>>102133881
Delusional, anyway your image quality cherrypicks are irrelevant, the table in >>102133733 gives the full results

>8GB GPU with VRAM overflow can’t use upscaling
Except it can, even in your own post >>102132898, and it can easily use Frame Gen, etc, etc with slight optimization in any case where there's a problem if the case is at all reasonable

Anyway I'm out, remember that the 7900 XTX is worse than the 4070 in most new games. Enjoy FSR, Radeonfriends, you spent your money on it

>>102134001
>the table in >>102133733 gives the full results
Those were all static shots, DLSS always kills motion clarity when compared to (TAAless) native.

this is what having NVDA stocks does to a nvidinigger

>>102134032
>Those were all static shots
Why lie when you can get called out so easily
https://youtu.be/O5B_dqi_Syc?si=eEPQcknB1GFzDIa8

>>102133998
nvidia just uses limited vram to upsell their higher end cards

>>102133998
samsung, micron, and hynix will all be producing gddr7
for gddr6, cost per gb is like $3

>>102134059
when vram was cheap they did the opposite and put way too much vram on cheap cards

>>102134103
maybe supply is the problem and not price

>>102134126
price is strongly linked to supply

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>>102134001
> gives the full results
>Ghostwire Tokyo
I think you made it yourself or another blind DLSS/FSR/XeSS enjoyer
> Except it can
It can’t, FG doesn’t function properly and simply doesn’t give you the same performance uplift, sometimes even making the performance worse, you basically can’t run SW without HW, KEK
> Anyway I'm out
I knew you’ll run away after so much defeats
> 7900 XTX is worse than the 4070
Did you use all of your copium today? 4070 lost even in RT bs, let alone the funny 1080p+DLSS meme in the monkey game

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these guys have to log in to their graphics card lol

>>102134181
are these guys just some indian pr firm or what

>>102134181
the absolute STATE of nvidiniggers
once they take away NVCP I'm going to sell my 3060

>>102134193
I don't think so, the spammer is offline during daytime hours in India

>>102134181
never needed to use geforce experience
the new app doesn't require login

the old app requires login
nvcp will soon be deleted
the new app is 2GB and eats insane amounts of RAM because it's an electron app written by third world pajeets

>>102134266
Just download more ram. You're not an AMPOOR are you?

well I would like to download more VRAM

>>102134266
Not using that shit anymore thank god both my NVIDIA laptops died sold my desktop GPUs amd ftw

>>102134323
Tip for downloading free VRAM and extra rasterization speed: sell your NVIDIA card and use the resulting money to buy an AMD card.

>>102134229
>>102134201
>>102134193
>>102134181
Lol the absolute state of nvidiots
Never thought id say it but intel and amds gpus crap over them rt and ai is a scam

you have to download 3 apps to use a nvidia gpu (the nvidia app, msi afterburner, and rivatuner)
meanwhile amdfags only need 1 (adrenalin)
fucking embarassing

>>102134380
they also need obs-studio if they want to record their gameplay or stream, AMD has baked that into the driver suite

>>102134343
it makes one wonder how would you setup a social media site that effectively bans mentally ill people

>>102134397
hey fuck you shadowplay doesn't corrupt ALL recordings it makes

so i guess its shizoposting hour

>>102134501
we already discussed shadowplay
see >>102134181

>>102134512
No he went to bed. These are the best hours.

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>>102134181

>>102134380
You still need rivatuner for AMD since FRTC is trash and Chill can't be used with Anti Lag or certain game engines.

Before I pull the nigger, is 4070 super that bad compared to the Ti?
I just don't feel like spending over 600€ for a GPU when I already need to buy a new PSU

>>102134778
just wait for 5080

>>102134789
When does that get released
How well would a 5900x handle that

what's got the AMDjeets panties in a bunch?
he seems angrier than usual lately

>>102134793
Im sure its out in like 5 months

theres some fps drop going from 7800x3d with ddr5 ram to any am4 system but its not drastic at 1440p

>>102134812
5 months? In 5 months we could all be dead, might as well wait for a fucking 6080.

>>102134819
could" but likelihood is insignificant if he can afford this hobby

>>102134819
dude, it'll have like 2x better ray tracing perf than 40xx gpus
just wait

Amd still slow? Guess I'll just keep sticking with my 4090

>>102134832
I was sort of joking but based on what? What about pricing?

>>102134837
4090 is too buggy compared to my XTX on Linux

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I noticed that the driver based Vsync is more smooth than a lot of games in-game Vsync

>>102134838
jensen has a habit of deciding the price on the fly 5 mins before he steps on stage to announce the gpus

>>102134858
Well I ain't paying more than for a 4070 super, so Jensen will have to calm down with that one if I have to wait

>>102134883
Im sure 5080 wont cost more than 1.3k € msrp + 3rd party oem margins

>>102134892
So what you're saying is I'll pay twice for twice the raytracing performance

>>102134916
if you're lucky

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I'm probably going to buy a 9600XT in 2030

>>102134978
wait no, it will probably be a 10600XT wouldn't it, because RDNA5 will probably be out in 2027

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>>102134988
>RDNA5 will probably be out in 2027
26 is likely, 2nm TSMC volume production end of 2025, they will iron out the quirks by 2026
AMD aiming to release "5090 killer" when Nvidia will be mid generation, expect 5090ti or 5090 super to happen next generation on a 2nm node.
RDNA6 and 6000s series is where it's going to be most fun, because node won't change. have to actually design the thing for it to work faster.

So, you basically don't even play gayems and just jerk off on numbers here?

>>102134978
computers wouldnt exist without cats

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>>102135179
we jack off to benchmarks, fps, and latency here.

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>>102132018
Looking to get an Asus ap201 case.

Anyone here have personal exp? Where are the extra HDDs mounted and how many can I put? Also where is the best placement for fans? Or is the stock fan plus GPU/ CPU cooler fans enough for a build in one of these

>>102135097
>2 more years

>>102135826
yeah well RDNA4 is out in in Q4 this year or Q1 next year, 2 years for RDNA5 is pretty normal.

Need help with upgrade advice, finally gonna put money into stronger PC;
USA, budget infinite just need advice for a single purchase to help upgrade my build

I have a 2700X CPU
2080TI GPU

What single item can I buy to significantly help my performance? Do I swap the cpu? If so what's your suggestion, vice versa for GPU, I can only do 1 or the other right now.

>>102135901
5700X3D

>>102135910
the mileage on am4 is insane i wish i bought earlier alas i
had to go am5

>>102135910
Any good options for GPU AFTER I got this? I'll do that 5700X then probs a GPU after in a in a couple months

>>102135961
get the 5700X3D, don't bother with the 5700X they're not the same and the X3D is faster a lot

>>102135961
in a couple months new gpus may be out. I suggest sticking with the cpu upgrade for now and when you decide to upgrade the gpu ask again

>>102135961
wait™

>>102135985
No I get it I was just lazy in typing I will get the 5700x3d

>>102135989
>>102135996
Ok fair thank you

i have had built my pc about half a year ago, and today when booting i got a windows blue screen for like 1 second, didn't have time to read it and I cant find a dump file (win11)

never had this problem before - is it normal to get a random BSOD once a year or so?
What would you do in this situation? Im planning to not do anything unless it happens again, but I'd still love to hear what you guys think. I'm running expo and it has caused longer boot times in the past, so it's maybe that?

>>102132073
By obstructing the dinky CPU cooler?

>>102136103
could be ram instability
could be intel

>>102136103
Likely the RAM, yea. If it isn't regular don't worry about it.

>>102134832
>>102135901
Had the exact same system my 5600x and 5900x where both massive upgrades

Wish I got a 5800x3d and stuck with it

>>102135961
7900 xtx can be had for 800-900usd for a high end 3x8pin one uv oc your close to 4080-4090 performance right now it's somewhere between a 4080s and 4090 d

>>102136207
did you at least do some sort of multicore productivity work on the 5900x

Just bought a used aio from msi brand
how fucked am I

>>102136115
>>102136129
>>102136103
100x ram if he's running xmp he can bump the voltage on the ram up a bit
>>102136217
The sims I'm still running like beamng and assetto corsa seemed to like the additional CPU headroom but naw senpai I didn't. Beast of a GPU but my 13600k build was cheaper faster used the same power. Wish I went 5800x3d tho that CPUs longevity is insane

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>using laptops only for several years
>spend almost a month researching to buy my first desktop pc
>finally buy it
>motherboard doesn't have built in wifi support
USB adapters are okay, right guys?

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>>102136277
pcie

>>102136227
you bought an aio, you already fucked up

>>102136322
I know I've been making fun of aio buyers for years

>>102136277
use a cable

>>102132235
So how do screens like this work? Do they take up a USB header on the motherboard? Does it have an actual cable to the graphics card?

>>102136296
or m.2

>>102136277
actually, I prefer a wifi-to-ethernet bridge.

examples abound, but I use a "mesh" at home. With my mesh, you plug ethernet from the router into one of the mesh nodes, and you take the ethernet to your pc on another. Mine has 3 nodes, don't use more than necessary, it's acceptable to store the extra 3rd or 4th node in case you need it later.

>>102136502
how about no, elf

>>102136277
cable you absolute philistine, unless you enjoy packet loss and jitter?

i bought a motherboard that has wifi in the name but i disabled it in the bios before i even booted the windows usb so i dont have to deal with it at all

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>>102135737
Did you see the yuge gains amd got with the latest windows update?
https://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.php/artikel/hardware/prozessoren/64313-optimierte-sprungvorhersage-zen-5-mit-windows-11-24h2-getestet.html

>>102136277
WIFI cable :^)

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>>102136681
I didn't just see it. I experienced it. Getting on average 5-12% better performance on my 5800X3D.

What's a good lightweight ATX case? Something that you can easily carry around.

>>102136724
no such thing for atx

>>102136724
stop eating soj

>>102136792
no. soj makes you smarter

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>meanwhile on intel

>>102136847
you said you wanted to be strong enough to lift an atx case.

>>102136277
I'm long time laptop user and when I'm at home I almost always use wired connection. Gonna build my first PC soon and there's a mobo without pre-built wifi in my list. (though it has an M.2 slot in case I'll need such feature one day).
I mean, for laptops it kinda makes sense, especially if you bought some obscure shit with no I/O, but for a PC which you're not supposed to carry from room to room with you often wifi doesn't seem necessary to me.

>>102136854
you cant just post this without corresponding boost clocks

>>102136854
13900k has more cores so ofc it needs more voltage

>>102136681
>5800x3d gets ANOTHER general uplift in performance
i'm tired boss...tired of winning

>>102136907
both cpus set to 6 p-cores at 55x and 8 e-cores at 44x
i5 was brand out of the box and i9 is a 2022 batch that has degraded to the point that stock isnt stable
>>102136913
thats not how binning works

>>102137062
AMD should release a 7700X3D on AM4 in Q4 2026 for the 10 year.

>>102137117
>thats not how binning works
It is to a point - more silicon needs more juice to keep firing at the same frequency.

>>102132018
y u do dis

>>102132343
God, that retarded fucking midget makes me diamonds.

>>102137207
they should make it zen5 too just to fuck with consumers
>>102137237
your confusing current with voltage

Does anyone have any first-hand experience on the performance difference between the laptop versions of the 4070 and a 4080?

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ilmao the 5800X3D is never going to give up

>>102135097
IT'S PAYNE!

>>102135795
So I've been using one for around a year, the HDDs is placed at the bottom, there's room for a 3.5" one and on the side of the case there's a support for a 2.5" one. The best fan placement would be on the top and bottom, it comes with a rear exhaust fan. Also think about buying filters because the mesh can cause some dust buildup if you set your case on the floor. The case comes with a bottom filter only.

>>102136681
I don't speak Spanish.

Was gonna get the 7500f but I think I might have to grab the 7600 to at least have a working PC until RDNA4 is released.

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>>102137331
It performs like a 2 gen newer intel part
Chink technology is far too advanced

>>102136854
136k here feels good LOL

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Day 511 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.

>>102137331
based 58x3d wish i got one i had a x570e as well nice board

>>102137733
give up i got a a770 and 79xtx for the price of one 4080
nvidia has fucking lost it

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>>102137754
>Nvidia
What if that poster is waiting for RDNA 4?

>Techpowerup has finally added the 8800XT to the database
noice.
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-8800-xt.c4229

>>102137892
So this is like a Polaris moment again?

>>102137440
Oh so you can only put 2 HDD/SSD in the ap201 case? And for a top and bottom fan would they be orientated for intake then have the back as exhaust? Is there any way at all to fit 2 HDD and 2 SSD with an extra fan or 2?

Are you otherwise happy with the case. Still debating if I should get the ap201 or montech 100.

The only thing putting me off about the montech is that the buttons and ports are on the top rather than the front

>>102137910
possibly, they really need to price the 8800XT at $499 but it will be $599

>>102137814
its weaker than 79xtx and 6950xt whats the point? either get a 79 gre or used 3090/

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>>102137959
If its at 499 then the 7800/7900GRE will be what? 349?

>>102138066
eh, that remains to be seen and its like saying get a 3080ti instead of a 4070 super.

>>102138068
they're out of production already, AMD is selling Navi 32 to laptop to try to get rid of them

>>102137933
>Oh so you can only put 2 HDD/SSD in the ap201 case?
You could screw another 3.5" one on the bottom but then you'd only have room for one fan and it would sit directly under the GPU. Of course if you use M.2 drives this isn't a problem.
You could also buy a support and stack 2 of them but anything more wouldn't let you fit a PSU, which is on the front side.
I would post pictures but I haven't cleaned this thing in months.
I'm very happy with the case, I bought the black one. It allows for decent cable management and looks rather nice.

>>102136277
tesla coil, idk what the rest of you are suggesting but I've never heard of such blasphemy when the tesla coil has always worked for me

>>102138066
Price/performance is a thing for most people and the rumored better RT is certainly a good thing over the 7900XTX

I haven't upgraded my CPU in a decade, would I need a liquid cooler for a 7800x3d or can do find with a air cooler?

>>102138471
7800X3D has a very low TDP, air coolers will do fine

>>102137814
>>102137754
What if I'm actually waiting for RDNA5?


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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Damn, it's super ugly. I can't live with an ugly mobo when I build like one pc every 10 years.

What should I pick for white-themed eatx x670 instead?

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>>102138730
There's no eatx white-white board afaik

need a ~$450 gpu for 1440p gaming
i dont use upscaling/rtx slop so im looking at amd cards right now. any suggestions?

>>102138848
7800xt

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32" Acer Predator XB323U for about 270 USD

Cop or not?

Is a 1000w PSU good enough for a 4080super + ryzen 7 x3d build? I'm seeing everyone online recommending a 1200w unit kek.

I'm looking to get some quality PSU but I don't want to overspend for 'future proofing' and similar shit as I won't be upgrading this configuration most likely.

>>102138884
seems ok

>>102138897
850w is enough since the 5700x3d, 5800x3d and 7800x3d uses <90W and the 4080S definitely doesn't use 700W

There's another thread about AMD CPU gainz with some new Windows update. Does it also affect older CPUs like the 2600?

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-ultra-5-245-235-and-core-ultra-3-205-clock-specs-have-been-leaked
It'll be funny when the Core Ultra 3 205 matches the Ryzen 5 9600X

>>102138730
>ugly
What are you talking about? It's marbleous.

Bros, I a complete noob when it comes to laptops. I am forced to stay away from my pc for a month due to work. Is $435 a good price for a used Asus FX505DT (4k, 512gb ssd, 16gb ram, gtx1650 mobile)? From the pictures on the sellers site it just has fingerprints and no cracks/bends.

>>102138730
>>102138760
Paint it yourself.

>>102138848
7800xt is literally your only option for that price range man, unless you somehow find a really cheap 7900 xt/gre somewhere.

Is repasting a ~3 year old gpu worth it for thermal performance?
I have to undervolt my 2070 super to 1935MHz at 925mV so it doesn't run above 70°C while gayming.

>>102139091
>>102138877
i found a 6800xt for ~$50 less than the cheapest 7800xt, is there any reason to go for the more expensive one?

>>102139280
Just power efficiency, they are pretty much the same in terms of performance.

>>102136108
It doesn't matter if you have a good ac or live in a cold place

>>102139063
Get a steamdeck

>>102139280
for 1440p the 6800xt is lacking, considering the fact that the 7800xt is already pushing it. If you're not a poorfag, there is no reason to cheap out on the extra $50 for a worse card. Unless you also only play old games.

>>102132169
Ditto, been on Linux 4 years now.

>>102138962
It affects Zen 3, 4, & 5. The 2600 is Zen 2 I think so only to negligible amount if that.

>>102139439
>>102132169
I would unironically use linux on my main system as well if it weren't for the lack of music production software/driver support.
It's crazy how no one talks about the performance uplift in games. Why is that?

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>>102139049
>>102139071
It just feels super plasticy and cheap on those cover elements. Does the regular black Taichi have those elements in plastic too, or are they metal at the top? It's hard to find this info

>>102138760
At this point I'd take a black board as long as it has these cover things in metal and not in cheap looking plastic. On a photo even this bird shit looks better, but I wonder if it would look good in real life too

>>102139532
2600 is zen1+

Can I mix 2 different ssds? I have a 1tb sn850x for the os and the 4tb version shot up to 300 quid. I'm looking into the crucial p3 plus 4tb for 189.99 as an alternative.

>>102139928
Yes

>>102139543
>Why is that?
people with excess melanin in their skin are to blame for this

>>102136277
Last time I had a laptop that didn't have built in wifi was probably in 2003

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Just ordered a 4070 super (pic related) to upgrade a 6600xt
Besides gayming better, I assume SD will be perfectly usable with it despite having a measly 12GB of VRAM?

>>102140212
12gb is fine for most cases even 1440p most of time however some very new titles are pushing it, but 1080p is no problem with 12gb

>>102139181
paste on gpus is only good for like 2 years tops

Anons I only got $140, to spend. Do I get a 1660 super or 2nd hand 3050? Or something amd in that price range. I just need something to run elden ring

>>102140571
2nd hand rx6600

>>102140608
Aight thanks anon

>>102140365
I may use some of that DLSS stuff if it's not enough. I'm not usually fucking with newer titles right now (although I'm curious to see the performance differences and I never used raytracing)

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>>102140212

>>102140681
Well shit, that's great. My 6600xt isn't even in that picture, that's how bad

>>102140681
That chart is extremely outdated, it's from mid 2023 if I had to guess, ROCm has been fixed since, I can easily generate around 10 images a minute with a 6600

>>102140790
At those settings?

>>102140835
I don't know what sampler they were using but yes, 512x512 images.

>>102140850
It's been like 2 years, but doesn't it usually generate with 8 steps by default? Doesn't 50 steps take longer?

>>102139532
Thanks, I'll check into it.

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currently using the benq ex2780q, ive had it for several years now but with upgrading to a 4090 several months ago ive been starting to yearn for a 4k monitor with better contrast
is the alienware AW3225QF a worthy upgrade? im not really worried about oled burn in, but i am worried about buyers remorse since its a pretty hefty pricetag of being a little over double of what I spent on my current monitor, is the higher resolution and contrast worth the plunge?

>>102140880
The default is like 30 steps iirc.

I just checked, DPM++ 2M Karras 50 steps.

Launching Web UI with arguments: --opt-sub-quad-attention --disable-nan-check
ONNX: version=1.19.0.dev20240514001+rocm60 provider=ROCMExecutionProvider, available=['MIGraphXExecutionProvider', 'ROCMExecutionProvider', 'CPUExecutionProvider']
Loading weights [d5f8393fea] from /home/user/Downloads/amdgpu/models/Stable-diffusion/anything-v4.0-pruned-fp16.safetensors
Creating model from config: /home/user/Downloads/amdgpu/configs/v1-inference.yaml
Running on local URL:  http://127.0.0.1:7860

To create a public link, set `share=True` in `launch()`.
Startup time: 7.0s (prepare environment: 9.3s, initialize shared: 0.6s, load scripts: 0.3s, create ui: 0.4s, gradio launch: 0.3s).
Loading VAE weights specified in settings: /home/user/Downloads/amdgpu/models/VAE/anything-v4.0.vae.pt
Applying attention optimization: sub-quadratic... done.
Model loaded in 3.8s (load weights from disk: 0.5s, create model: 0.3s, apply weights to model: 1.7s, load VAE: 0.9s, calculate empty prompt: 0.2s).
Total progress: 100%|| 50/50 [00:08<00:00,  4.32it/s]
Total progress: 100%|| 50/50 [00:08<00:00,  4.32it/s]
Total progress: 100%|| 50/50 [00:09<00:00,  4.26it/s]
Total progress: 100%|| 50/50 [00:09<00:00,  4.26it/s]
Total progress: 100%|| 50/50 [00:08<00:00,  4.31it/s]
Total progress: 100%|| 50/50 [00:09<00:00,  4.25it/s]
Total progress: 100%|| 50/50 [00:09<00:00,  4.26it/s]

About 7.5 img/min
This was also using a LoRA, I don't know if that makes it slower

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I know this might be a quite atypical question, but...
Does anyone have any recommendations/tips for desk models or some good articles like "Best PC desks 2024"/"What to look out for before you buy a PC desk"? Any reputable websites?

>>102141162
>alienware AW3225QF a worthy upgrade?
It's the only QD-OLED with a curved screen just FYI. The others are all flat. All the 4K QD-OLEDs are basically exactly the same so if your market one is cheaper just get that one instead.

>but i am worried about buyers remorse since its a pretty hefty pricetag of being a little over double of what I spent on my current monitor, is the higher resolution and contrast worth the plunge?
It is absolutely worth it for content consumption in the contrast but also vastly superior colors and response times that don't change with framerate as well as perfect viewing angles and uniformity (no backlight bleed or IPS glow). The only thing on the horizon that might be worth waiting for is 27" 4K models with a true RGB subpixel layout by LG but that won't come until end of nexy year, maybe.

>>102141303
It really doesn't matter brotherman. As long as it's the right height and can fit all of your shit, it's gonna be fine.
>What to look out for before you buy a PC desk
Wtf does that even mean? Make sure it doesn't gain sentience and starts fucking your wife behind your back?
I don't know what functionality you'd expect man

>>102141450
Well, it should be ergonomic and durable(although I don't think they make desks THAT shitty to break in like, a year, it would have to be made out of paper). And the monitor should be at the right height. Should I buy a desk with regulated height or do monitors these days have height regulation?

>>102141513
you get vesa arms for the monitors like a normal person

>>102141513
just buy a chair with adjustable height and a wooden desk that looks durable?
Yes, most monitor stands have adjustable height. Though, like the other anon said, I'd replace those with arms instead.

Best 2k 240hz monitor? What should i be looking for?

>>102141321
ive used a curved monitor in the past, some shitty samsung 72hz one, it ended up not really bothering me so the slightly curved screen sounds fine to me, might help with the 32inch screens being bigger to my current one as well
it also happens to have the better customer support options and convenience out of all the others so that helps with the choice too
im glad to know it is absolutely worth it though, i guess if i dont end up being wow'd i can always return it even if it might be a massive pain

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Anything I should reconsider here? Cost is not a concern.

What's the best monitor for someone who only plays visual novels and JRPGs? 1080P

>>102141695
well theres some really nice 4k qd oleds

>>102141659
Nah, you're good. Maybe go with the asus tuf version of the 4090 for better cooling/noise and replace the case and AIO stock fans with noctuas if you don't care about rgb, but other than that, you're gucci.

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>>102141695

>>102141716
4K is a little overkill I think. Most JRPGs and visual novels only support 1080p, so I would need to play them in windowed mode on a small window.
>>102141797
I'm not trans

>>102141831
theres plenty of apps that can upscale
lossless scaling or magpie

>>102141841
Nah, most of them look like shit.
AI upscaling won't be good for at least 10 years.

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>>102141766
Nice, thanks for the recommendations

>>102141831
>I'm not trans
lmao even

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>>102141831
It's not the resolution but the contrast and colors/uniformity. JRPG & VNs with large areas of solid bright colors benefit from OLED a good deal. Also that OLEDs are 10-bit panels instead of 8-bit + FRC reduces banding which is more visible where there are solid color gradient changes. The 4K is mostly just to band-aid over the poor clarity from them being non-RGB layout.

>so I would need to play them in windowed mode on a small window.
Integer scaling, son!

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>>102141884
Anytime.
Although, now that I think about it, since cost isn't a factor for you, you might want to go for the asus rog matrix 4090 instead of the tuf one.
It's fully watercooled and will never run hotter than ~65°C with the highest overclock possible.
If your case can fit two full size 360mm radiators, then I'd say why not?

>>102141659
this retard spending $2000 on a gpu that will get replaced in 2 months lmao

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>>102141659
>Cost is not a concern.
ight, here you go bro

>>102142087
I thought Nvidia delayed it until next year.

>>102142137
Are those "real" quantum computers? What are they even useful for?

>>102142142
They did, he's just FUDposting because he doesn't want anons to buy Nvidia

>>102142215
>>102142142
>product isnt even expected to be announced so far
>"DELAYED"
yeah i'm sure that's not nvidia bots trying to make you spend money on the most expensive card (the first that gets replaced and loses most of its value)

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Jewfus casually dropping 2 hours of podcasts, now that technnomics is defunct this is all we got
https://youtu.be/ZlTmHzQUQEY

Do midrange GPUs even exist anymore
What would I even buy if my 3060 dies

does anyone own an ips black monitor?

>>102142853
7700xt?

>>102142853
low end gpus are just phones
mid range gpus are slowly turning into apus/handhelds/consoles

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>>102142853
A 4070 according to Nvidia

Is the jump from a 3060Ti to a 7900GRE worth it? My local retailer has the GRE at the exact same price I bought my 3060Ti almost 4 years ago.

>>102143115
ye

>>102143115
No

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I found this neat Windows program that lets you suspend and resume games/applications just like consoles do.

https://github.com/Merrit/nyrna

Its useful for toaster PCs or you just like having a bunch of shit open without slowing down your PC!

>>102143347
Windows 11 already suspends processes automatically as it sees fit slowpoke.

>>102143467
Suspend feature is entirely different than this.

>>102143467
This works on Linux as well not just Windows also its not using the suspend call you can check with Task Manager for the eco icon.

Hello guys.

Back in 2019, I built my own PC and had an ASUS Sabertooth 990fx r-2 as the motherboard. I was foolish enough to buy two 1040ti GPUs which canot both work at once on the motherboard or be connected to each other. I also bought two RAM cards that were incompatible with the motherboard, but I didn't notice until I tried to use stable diffusion and found that I didn't even have 2gb of RAM on my computer.

Anyway, I reckon it's time for an upgrade of the motherboard, hopefully to one which will be able to utilise my RAM cards which have been languishing in the sabertooth for the past half decade and both 1040tis.

One concern I have is sneaky government backdoors built into the hardware, which is why I'm sticking with my relatively old AMD cpu. Is this something I need to check out relating to new hardware ie motherboards and GPUs?

With that in mind, what is the best motherboard I can get? I'm looking at CrosshairV Formula Z.

Country: UK
Budget: unlimited

>>102143347
Why does the cat hit himself?

>>102143467
It's actually much better than that shitty power saving feature Windows has. The risk is, of course, your application crashing and losing data, but it has its uses. Read nigga, read.

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>>102143540
>backdoor
my nigga, they have a million different ways of accessing your shit though technology you've probably never even heard before.
If they wanted to they could barge into your home and take you away at a moments notice. The government doesn't give a shit about you, just get whatever new chip there is and stop being a faggot.

>>102143575
he boughted an intel card

>>102143661
I'm safe behind my AMD FX and Ubuntu OS, suck it demoralising glowie.

>>102143801
>>102143801
>>102143801

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>>102143661
I run Libreboot on my ThinkPad but I use an HP ProDesk 600 G1 as my PC. As far as my knowledge goes, the threat actor/glownigger agency would need physical access to your PC to start logging your information and sending it to whoever. People have run WireShark for a while, sniffed all outgoing ports and found nothing related to Intel ME, so unless there is a super-secret method to access it without a network while airgapped (like infrared lights or radio signals or some shit), you shouldn't have to worry about this. I can remember that all Intel CPUs which are marked as vPro have a port open on 16992 that allows you to do glowie-tier shit that way, but afaik it's not publicly accessible unless you have port forwarding enabled, it's just local.