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Repost from last threadBack in 2019, I built my own PC and had a Sabertooth 990fx r-2 as the motherboard. I was foolish enough to buy two 1040ti GPUs which canot both work at once on the motherboard or be connected to each other. I also bought two RAM cards that were incompatible with the motherboard, but I didn't notice until I tried to use stable diffusion and found that I didn't even have 2gb of RAM on my computer.Anyway, I reckon it's time for an upgrade of the motherboard, hopefully to one which will be able to utilise my RAM cards which have been languishing in the sabertooth for the past half decade and both 1040tis.One concern I have is sneaky government backdoors built into the hardware, which is why I'm sticking with my relatively old AMD FX cpu. Is this something I need to check out relating to new hardware ie motherboards and GPUs?With that in mind, what is the best motherboard I can get? I'm looking at CrosshairV Formula Z.Country: UKBudget: unlimited
first for HRT 7900 xtx <3A joint effort between AMD and the trans community ~
>>102143859How hard is /g/ coping with the fact that there's irrefutable proof Windows is better for gaming these days?
>2017 crosshair vi hero>5800x3dTalk about deal of the century. My previous cpus (1700 and 3900x) were okay and I sold them for a reasonable amount but this is the unkillable setup.
>>102143847If you are paranoid about PSP and IME there is basically nothing more powerful than a balls to the wall bulldozer chip.
I will have to return my Taichi Carrara as it is not only super ugly, but two of the "marble" panels didn't have a plastic film on them and they are scratched.Why isn't there a seal or something on the packaging of such expensive hardware? So far I've got my CPU, GPU, Mobo, m.2, cpu cooler, and only the ryzen box had a legit seal where you could tell they thought about it for at least five seconds and the m.2 had regular plastic circles taped on top and bottom. Meanwhile the GPU box didn't have any seals whatsoever, only the bag had a super tacky "QUALIFIED GIGABYTE QUALIFIED" police tape looking tape on it. I had to look up an unboxing video because I couldn't believe that this was it, but it was the same for the guy in the video, he just slipped the boxes open, no seals anywhere and he had the bag "police taped shut" with the 4080S.I guess they might be saving costs on marketing, but come on, at least do the bare minimum... I don't want to have to worry about whether my new hardware is actually a refurb
How is amd for older games, like directX9 and stuff? Is it worth buying nvidia for the peace of mind? I understand modern windows can cause a lot of issues but ignore that and focus on gpus for a sec.
>Core i3 = 8 cores>Ryzen 7 = 8 coresthank you intel
>>102144436But why
intel sees cores and threads the same way AMD is sees VRAM
>>102144436>8 cores (4 weak + 4 hrt cores)
>>102144433> Is it worth buying nvidia for the peace of mind?for the most part yeah. If you're hyper autistic about price to performance and don't mind messing with drivers and open source stuff and having diminished performance here and there, then go amd.For the ability to simply just put your gpu in and play games, go nvidia.
Is 1000 watt overkill for 4080 super and Ryzen 7 x3d? I don't really understand PSU ratings e.g. gold = 80% output at max utilisation (gold)? So 1000w gold rated can output 800 watt max?Sorry, I built my last PC in the 00s
>>102144477intel is trying meanwhile amd is stagnating
>>102144535>For the ability to simply just put your gpu in and play games, go nvidia.tell me more
>>102144535Yeah I’m just gonna get nvidia then, I don’t mind tinkering but when there’s just no solution or it’s half asses? I’m not trying to compromise given the amount of money I gotta spend.
My pc has an internal gpu and an external one(both AMD), Is it possible to turn off the external one when I'm doing casual shit to save power? Do I even need to? Is there a thing to toggle them on and off that takes a couple of seconds only?
Has anyone taken the separate workstation and entertainment computer pill?
>>102144588No, the efficiency rating is just how accurately the PSU will draw exactly as much as power as you need from the wall. Higher certification means less waste. Any half-decent modern PSU will deliver its rated wattage without an issue.For a 7800X3D + 4080S, you could most likely get by with a 650w power supply. That being said, 850-1000w is usually not too much more expensive than something in the 700-750w range and will make sure you can upgrade to just about anything in the future
>>102144862you should plug your monitor into your external GPU and forget the internal one existssaving 10 W on a desktop is stupid
>>102144862Yes but you have to go to bios for that. It can't be done from an OS
>>102143801Do you guys consider the ap201 case a gimmicky layout? Or should I stick to something with a more traditional layout with the PSU/drive bay in the bottom shroud and the build above it
I've been out of the loop on SSD technology. is 3D Nand better than SLC MLC and TLC? QLC being the worst and cheapest. it used to be that SLC was the absolute best you can get, and lasted the longest. but I've been seeing that 3D nand is the latest technology and gives you the best of both worlds (cheap/longevity). so does that mean no SSD is made with the SLC MLC TLC and QLC order anymore?
>>102144907I'm trying to. i built a workstation that i use for 3D rendering and animation. i has a 3060 GPU, but the graphics card doesn't seem to be as compatible with old games as my 1080 Ti was. so i'm throwing a new motherboard into my old 3770k PC, and stuffing the 1080 Ti in there, and that will be my gaming computer, since i don't play new games anyway, and a 1080 Ti can run anything old, and most things new. its also my media viewing/data hording rig.My workstation runs Arch linux, but i want a distro that's good on old hardware like a 3770k that i will almost never have to update, but not LTS debian since that doesn't even come with video drivers.
>>102145361>so does that mean no SSD is made with the SLC MLC TLC and QLC order anymore?3D NAND is just stacking more cells on the same die area vertically for more more density. better yields, and lower prices. For the acronym flash types SLC is the oldest type that only stored 1 bit per cell, from there manufacturers found they could store more bit states per cell at the cost of longevity and performance.It goes from oldest/most expensive to newest/cheapest:SLC > MLC >TLC >QLCHowever, for consumers even QLC still has huge amounts of TBW endurance such that it's not a problem and speeds are still functionally the same among all SSD types for low queue depth desktop workloads (that's more governed by the interface and controller) but with better $/TB pricing and capacity.https://datastorageasean.com/blogs/flash-storage-what-do-slc-mlc-tlc-and-qlc-standAlso although true native SLC drives are rare and expensive these days, most manufactures have switched to allocating a certain % of the NAND regardless of type to operate in a pseudo-SLC cache state again to make up for the penalty of discussed above.
>mid or full size ATX>easily removable filters on every air intake>no glass, no rgb>easy cable management>at least 1 3.5" and 2 2.5" drive slotsare there any cases like this
>>102145361Vertical NAND / V-NAND / 3D NAND isn't new, it's been used in SSDs for like a decade. Samsung 850 Evo was already using 3D NAND.
thoughts?its a budget around 3500 Canadian monopoly dollarsanything to improve capability for no cost/with potential to save money or no? Or is there some sort of retard things i put in?
>>102145717Sounds like a job for Fractal / be quiet.
>>102145717the no glass stipulation is what makes this hardi too wanted no glass but i couldnt find anything that wasnt mesh (dust hazard) or glass side panel, so i went with nzxt h7 flow and suffer the glass
>>102145995phantom spirit is like 4-6 degrees better than peerless assassin and only costs like 5 bucks more, you only need 850w psu
>>102145995If just gaming, 64GB is probs overkill. That said, if you want 64GB, I'd go with a 2x32GB kit. More sticks = more strain on your CPU's memory controller. For example, your kit is rated for 2x16GB @6000, not 4x16GB @6000. If you use two of it, you might not get 6000 without manually adjusting timings.
>>102145995Good luck running 4 sticks at 6000 MHz.Not a fan of using two NVMes since cheap boards like yours can't take full advantage of the speed. I have a separate server so maybe it's just a me problem.Shit PSU for that build.
>>102145995get a seasonic psu
>>102146205thanks, i swapped out the fans, for the psu i thought it should be 50-75 percent utilization?>>102146213alright thanks, i swapped it out for 2x32gb>>102146297its separate one for programming and windows itself since programming programs can take up a lot of space, the other is for storage of vidya, videos etc. What psu would you recommend?>>102146387what wattage would you suggest?
>>102146520you only need 850w for 75%
>>102145995>is there some sort of retard things i put in?7900 xtx
>>102146520>its separate one for programming and windows itself since programming programs can take up a lot of space, the other is for storage of vidya, videos etc.I get that. But if you are able to get bigger SATA SSDs for storage then it's better than an NVMe. The speed from an NVMe and SATA when reading isn't really that noticeable, especially on a mid tier SSD.As for PSU wattage get like a 750. Or if you want to be safer get an 850.
>>102143801I get 4.8Ghz all core load with pbo=auto, 73*CAnd with PBO=on, I get 4.9Ghz at 83*C.Is this normal for a ryzen 7600? Can I do 5.1Ghz all core with OC?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7mwXxHbors this is my setupThe gpu only pulls 250w with my voltage curve, and the cpu only pulls like 80w max in cinebench. im thinking the psu is fine. pcpartpicker seems to overshoot estimations by a lot honestly even at stockyes i like cheap oem drives no im not buying scam price pro garbage that is going to be bottlenecked by os overhead anyway
bros I want to ditch my current monitor for a triple monitor setup. If you were in this situation, which GPU would you pair with these?
>>102146606any 1440p monitor will do (4070ti+)
>>102146606forgot to mention>current specsCPU: Ryzen 7 3700XRAM: 16gb G.Skill 3600C16Storage (Boot + Games): Samsung 970 EVOGPU: GTX 980Ti
>AI CPU>AI GPU>AI KEYBOARD>AI BUTTPLUG>umm why is muh gayming performance stagnatingoh gee i dunno, maybe because AI isn't adding more memory bandwidth or graphics cores to your gaming pc...
How does the cable not explode?
Going for 4 DIMMs on X670E with no 7 segment LEDs, what am I in for beyond waiting a few minutes for memory training?
>>102146656AI massively increased my gaming performance
>>102146674am5 or 1200?if am5 enjoy your 5200-5600 with manual timings after wasting 6 hours trying to get 6000 ~c32 stable
>>102146705oh am5 of course i am fucking retarded but yeah enjoy your tuning
>look up the new GPU "leaks">bro 5070 with 16GB gddr7 only 700$ bro>bro rdna4 is 4080 for 600$They re literally pulling shit out of their asses. Why does anyone fucking believe this?
>>102146656But... AI can help you OC! And the new hardware is "Designed for the future of AI computing, with the power and connectivity needed for demanding AI applications".Nevermind that the old hardware is essentially the same at a lower price!
>>102146737my am2 asus board has asus ai tweaker 20 years agothe ai stood for 'asus intelligent' lol
>>102146737AI tax is real, hope you love AI generating cake recipes on your linux server cause that's the future of gaming.
>>102146705This guy managed to get 4x48gb at 6000:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtMIppL9UC4But if it ends up being 5600, that's still not too bad. Wendell said that 4200-4800 is realistic, I wonder why he didn't achieve more.
>>102146772damn at c32? impressivehowever the chance of replicating that at the cost of hundreds of dollars worth of ram isnt high enough imo
>>102146674>4 dimms But why
>>102146733600? I heard it was 500
>>102146803so you can run the best llms and coom all day
>>102146802I'm building a new system anyways.>>102146803192gb is why.
>>102146821even so, it's still going to be a crapshoot for $500
>>102146806500 was the lowest estimate but that's ultragiga copium.
>>102146606imagine dedicating two entire monitors to 4chan and discord. there are cheaper ways to get a brain tumor.
>>102146833The difference of an additional 2x48gb kit is less than 400€. The capacity will be available one way or another, the only question is how fast. I can still uninstall it or even return it if it doesn't work out well enough.
>>102146842>4chanYou newfags are always so easy to spot. STOP referring to the board by the site's name. Oh wait, that's right - you have no "home board". You're just a tourist.
>>102146945its still 4chan.you think /g/ is any less immune to the shit that goes on here site-wide? retard.
>>102146945please shut the fuck up.
>>102146981>>102146985samefag
>>102146945>>102146993faggot
>>1021469456/8
>>102146839$600 for the 8800XT makes it a 4070 Super (300mm die of N4) with 16gb vram so I believe the $500 pricing.AMD does however have a history of pricing stuff poorly, the 7800XT is the exception to the rule which is what made Nvidia release the 4070 Super to begin with.
>>102143847odds are govt backdoors have been in everything since before you were bornyou are being 3d mapped and tracked in real time by a 5g antenna RIGHT NOW and they are probably even reading your personal electromagnetic field frequency, your 'aura' if you willthere is no escape. just upgrade to the latest and greatest and at least enjoy the benefits instead of hamstringing yourself with methods that ultimately do nothing
i'm really tempted by that new 480hz oled that is coming out. What is the life span on those panels suppossed to be ?
>>102147355can you even tell the difference between 240 and 480
>>102147381i can tell the difference between 240hz and 360hz. 360hz lcd panel still has a ton of motion blur when you fast pan the camera.
>>102147401have you tried turning motion blur off in game
>>102147420go test it out at best buy or bandh if you dont believe me. why do you think black frame insertion and oled panels have become so popular. back to my actual question, what is the lifespan of these LG oled panels ?
>>102147401>motion blur when you fast pan the cameraThat's just how vision works. The eyes are not a high speed camera with 10000 fps.
>>102145717you can get the Corsair 7000D with a solid side panel (I think you have to buy it extra, like $40), but the default glass panel is tinted dark enough to not clash with the rest of the panels. I initially didn't want a glass panel either, but I'm really happy with how it looks
>>102147480your vision doesn't turn into a blurry mess irl if you quickly look in one direction.
Currently on 2x8 and added 2x16 RAM sticks. But started getting microstutters in games. Should I stick with the 32 and and just take out the old 2x8 set?
Are the higher end x3D chips even worth it? Everything beyond the 7800x3D seems to be diminishing returns and doesn’t have an uplift compared to the non-3D variants. Even if the 7900x3D is $400 locally it isn’t worth it, right? Is AMD going to make any improvements to their vertical cache for Zen 5 or will we always be stuck at core parking? Someone mentioned issues with inter-CCD latency for the 9950x so maybe they just rushed this launch and hopefully taking their time for the x3D refresh
>>102147492When the eyes move, the focus changes from A to B. When you look at a point on a screen, the focus is always on A. You can't really compare one with the other.
>>102147502Highend CPUs are literally never worth outside of few specific games that like raping processors. GPU is the true workhorse and even more in 1440p
>>102147502for gaming, no. if you do some kind of "productivity" work on the side then the extra cores come in handy.
>only 7700XT Oh it's the Nvidia shill OP again.
>>102147502>Are the higher end x3D chips even worth it?Short answer: noX3D is only really an advantage for games. Most games don't benefit from more than 6-8 cores.Productivity software usually doesn't benefit from X3D, and the normal X version is slightly better there, and cheaper.
>>102147537/pcbg/ is not your safe space, drone
>>1021445881000w is fine. Those efficiency ratings are being phased out in favor of the comptia rating now days. all it measuring is how efficient the psu is. So if you have 95% efficiency your gpu would use 526w to deliver 500w of power since it is converting AC into DC electricity.
does this look fine?
>>102147553>>102147529>>102147526That’s what I kinda figured after reading up on them. Shame cause I would like a good processor for gaming but the highest I’ll probably play is Barotrauma or Darktide, and a really big maybe for Space Marine 2 if it turns out good. Otherwise I’m mostly just doing some image extraction stuff and transferring some projects from OpenGL to Vulcan. I don’t know if the extra L3 would actually benefit me there.
>>102146213>More sticks = more strain on your CPU's memory controller.OK first off thanks for the info but also this is why building a PC is just a little bit gay. It's super easy to not possess this knowledge, there's really nothing warning you. Intuitively you'd think it makes sense to populate all of your RAM slots because why have 4 if you're only really supposed to use 2. If you're like average IQ, never built a PC before, just trying to find all the necessary and compatible parts, you're probably going to make at least one significant mistake with a build if left unattended.
When will Nvidia quit fiddling with their fingers up their own ass and unveil the 50 series? It seriously can't be 6 months.
>>102147665yeah
>>102147772it won't be 6 months, don't be so dramaticit'll be 8 months instead after they announce another delay
>>102147772jensen has $100k gpus to sell to data centers
>>102147742i upgraded from 5600x to 7800x3d and it tripled my fps in darktide and doubled my fps in helldivers 2
>>1021477714 ram slots on ddr5 doesn't make sense for how much it impacts stability and yet board makers keep doing itYou're right it's one of the things that will catch ignorant builders and cause problems down the kinr
>>102147771Building PCs physically isn't more difficult than building something with Lego, but identifying the perfect components for a specific build isn't for average IQ people who don't know about the subject matter either. You have to put in some time to learn.
>>102147420you know motion blur isn't the only setting that causes blur in game ? xD
>>102147892turn off postprocessing too
How's this for a mostly used build?Ryzen 2700 - £452x16GB 2666 - £40RX 580 8GB - £72Samsung Evo 860 1TB - £54Gigabyte B450M K (new) - £49CORSAIR CX650 (new) - £55Thermalright Assassin X120 Refined SE (new) - £16.49CiT Course Micro ATX PC Case (new) - £40AOC Q27G2E 27" QHD 155Hz - £140Samsung S24E450B 24" - £18Alesis Elevate 3 MK2 Studio Monitors - £48Logitech G Pro Mechanical Keyboard - £42Razer Deathadder Essential 6400dpi - £18M audio Keystation 61es - £35Total: £672.49
>>102147665-Noctua is overpriced, either get the OP cooler or an Arctic AIO.-You don't need to buy paste, as good paste comes with most coolers and you won't be pushing that CPU hard enough to justify premium paste.-Mobo is good.-No idea why you need 64 GB, but get 6000 sticks that are CL30 or 32.-Powercolor Hellhound is the best price-performance GRE-For the price of that case you can get a fishtank one with 5 fans included, such as the Montech King Pro. Not saying you should, just that your case of choice and the extra fans are a waste of money.-PSU is overkill. 750w is all that's needed. 850 if you want to leave room for GPU upgrades.
>>1021480832700x i had was terrible at least get a 5700x3d
>>102147772>buying nvidiaashlop
>>102147494having zero ram issues here mostly run fully populated 4x or 6x slots
>>102148083that motherboard blows and wont leave you much room for cpu upgrades unless you glue heatsinks to vrms and then they could fall off and damage your gpumost it could handle reliably out of the box is 5600
>>102148083I'm sure that'll serve your needs, but if you're doing music production an M2 mac mini might be better for that price rangealso it's worth it to skimp on the peripherals and upgrade the mobo/cpu. or just save up a bit longer
>>102148093That's £180, not £45>>102148121I doubt it will be upgraded, just needs to be usable for a couple of years.
>>102147800I can’t the dubs. 7800x3D is pretty cheap too right now so I might just buy that for now and upgrade later down the road in January if the new vertical cache chips have a significant upgrade. Won’t be doing anything too heavy so I might be able to get away with 8 cores
>>102148326*can’t deny, fuck I’m tired man. Anybody got a good alternative to caffeine? I keep kicking it for a few weeks then ays like these make me pick it back up again
Can anyone on zen 4 tell me how reliable their system can boot? Mine takes like 20 attempts to even get the 15 post code for ram training. not sure if the board is defective or what. this is with 2000 fclk and 5400 - 6000 mhz 64 GB rami've been considering just getting an intel arrow lake build because of how annoying this problem is.
Im waiting for nova lake
>>102148083fort what purpose? that build is woefully outdated. I would save a little bit more and get a used 7700x off of reddit instead. If you are gonna make a poverty build get used parts but ensure that you have proof they work before buying. Such as a video of the computer previously working with them or something. $54 for 1TB ssd feels criminal, same for $72 for a rx 580.
Another day another Vidya maxed by the mighty 136k 79xtx
>>102148451>waited for the past 4 years for arrowlake. now that its almost here, time to wait another few years for nova lakeyep that me
>>102148452Most of these are from a store that sells used electronics, so in theory they are at least returnable if they don't work.Anything newer goes up in price by a lot, I don't really need it to be that fast just have a decent amount of RAM. It's an upgrade from a DDR3 system.
>>102148398bios versionram sku
>>1021483987600, B650M-HDV/M.2, Lancer Blade (listed in the mobo QVL)I just turn it on and it works
>>102147502naw i think they peaked with the 5800x3d
>>102148227you can make it last for 5 years if you get a better motherboard and put in a 5800x3d and a new gpu in a year or so
>>102148227https://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-ryzen-5700x3d.htmlthere u go its like 150
>>102148452>$54 for 1TB ssd feels criminal, same for $72 for a rx 580.i got 4x2tb for 100usd each off alijust got a 4tb locally for 200usd crucial gen 4
>>102148586Something like this?https://www.amazon.co.uk/Gigabyte-B550-GAMING-V2-Motherboard/dp/B08K16S4K1/ref=sr_1_5?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.dTpcBgtHgMM8GvSVxf0JuvX8ve8TXgjmonY3b8-GRyLM1Vutt8rj7JU7oCUGGRR7-lxRaGI7jNImLf2kTYGLN6MPJf3mBQTZLyiia8Y4Nm0-RweZVOwZ48-2Oaf4akt07wF6LIQac3fUmlLs7hARF8avWBOfUKqhlWy4PgFf4mON56SnzoOLlToBadkZfwObKUtDb5m2J6-Awd0395YKI1XN7wynLv3n6COzgQUNYT8.x1GNojcjRp3REyEVAqFp_eJyYjxUDNdVTspxQAp1ECY&dib_tag=se&keywords=AMD+AM4+Motherboard&qid=1724988959&sr=8-5
>>102148598it doesnt have to be b550 or even new but anything with 10+ phases and vrm heatsinks is good
>>102148083Any 6core or more 5000 series cpu is going to be signigicantly faster than 2700x. If you are nit gaming, consider an APU
>>102148083Overpaying for old garbage
>>102148663But I guess I'd need faster RAM to really take advantage of that, then the price starts to creep up incrementally.>>102148615Yes, this one has a lot of MOSFETs and some kind of heatsink
>>102148398turn memory context restore on and try different peripherals and cableswhen i first turned this 7800x3d x670e and 2x32 c30 6000 on it wouldnt even POST with HDMI in the motherboard with no gpu. I then tried a gpu with hdmi in both x16 slots and it wouldnt POST then either. I cleared cmos and no change, but then i swapped the hdmi cable for a display port cable and turned the power on and it magically posted and got into bios. With this I installed windows, then swapped it out for hdmi and rebooted and it worked. Then just to hammer it across the finish line I cold rebooted it, and it inexplicably just works now. After that I noticed my POST times were taking like a whole minute to get into bios, so I looked into it and found out about memory context restoream5 is a trip
>>102148686Locally 3600 and 2133 ddr4 are almost at parity in price. Also, if you are not gaming then ram speed does not matter. Build a system around r5500gt for twice cpu speed, half power consumption and same cost. Not good for vidya or AI, but anything else will fly.
>>102148686You are already paying double market rate for an 8 year old graphics card and a 6 year old cpudo not buy anything pre ryzen 5000 and for graphics cards, anything before amd 6000, nvidia 1660
>>102148731This. 5000 series ryzens at current prices obsoleted every prior model, with an exception of, maybe, 3900 and 3950. 5k is just that much better.
>>102148774frankly he should skip the fancy luxury screen and spend the money on modern parts that still get driver support
>>1021483987800x3dB650 steel legend2x16gb 6000cl30On a cold boot, takes 40s on a full retrain or 20s every time after thatIt occasionally gets stuck at boot if restarting, but I'll just cut the power and it will boot in 20s
>start getting into 3D with blender/houdini>suddenly I feel the need to upgrade my 3080 12gb and r9 5900x I now need a 4090 and a threadripper bros
>>102148398>>102148799Is this the DDR5 experience?
>>102148813Why did you (you) me? My experience on am5 is pretty good other than the restart bug that's easily avoidable
>>102148686>But I guess I'd need faster RAM to really take advantage of that2666 will cripple any ryzeni just looked on ebay and you can get 2x16 3200C16 ballistix sticks for £50those are guaranteed to run at 3600 if you just bump all the XMP timings by +2 (which you want to do, since fabric clock is the most important factor on ryzen)
>>102148807No. You need a Xeon 6 and arc battlemage b770
>>102148813Not for me, see >>102148560EXPO just works out of the box and I can even use Buildzoid's guide
>>102148864Buildzoid's Hynix timings*
Is the Powercolor Hellhound a good option for a 7800xt?
>>102147472>what is the lifespan of these LG oled panelsunfortunately no real way to know yet, presumably at least 3 years since that is the warranty period but more than that? who knows Thinking about getting the same monitor but the price and wonder how long it will last are both making me hesitate would just get it if I could be confidant it would last at least 5 years
>>102148799memory context restore?
>>102148799>On a cold boot, takes 40s on a full retrain or 20s every time after thatTo get into windows desktop*Getting to bios screen takes about 8s
>>102148799your mobo is probably just shit at that aspect, or you don't have memory context restore enabled. HWUB found out that a lot of AM5 boards are generally slow at bootingmy B650M-HDV/M.2 barely spends 2 seconds before it starts booting Windows
>>102148880yes. probably one of the better ones
>>102148923that's not something you have to touch on asrock boards
>>102148880Yep, Nitro+ and Red Devil are slightly better and with argb if you care but Hellhound has solid cooling and lower noise than the cheaper cards definitely worth going for over a loud card
>>102148967Just enable it and see.
>>102148967>>102148976Asrock enables it by default
Who will take over custom liquid cooling market now that EK is going to shut down?
>>102147472>what is the lifespan of these LG oled panels ?Samsung - likely 3 years without burn in if you are careful, with guarantee, more? who knowsLG - who knows, they give 2 years warranty. The key is not being a retard and know what you are getting it for, there are TVs with 15k horus with zero burn in because dude used it a night and didn't push brightness and ther are tvs with 8k from idiots who played apex on it for those 8k hours non stop for 3 years at high brightness. Hide task bar, use dark theme and keep to 120cd/m2 in SDR and it should be at least 4 years of smooth sailing.
>>102149019that shit market shouldn't exist. I'd rather companies invested in vapor chamber tower coolers for CPUs, they are difficult to make.people who actually need water, video editors with 50c CPUs, can get away with AIO and everyone else is a gaymer or office worker can work with air no problem these days
>>102149082Without EK the market is as good as gone unless you count wish chinese blocks
>>102148920>but the priceis it worth it? I decided to give up on this OLED generation, they ask too much and give too little for too much paranoia. If I was rich rich, I'd change them like gloves, but $1.5k for 2 years?
>>102148957lowend/smaller boards boot faster because they have fewer devices connected
I downloaded a mod to make the graphics card in my gaming laptop over twice as powerful but now it won't get above 10% use
>>102149194download more ram
contribute your card here sirshttps://www.reddit.com/r/IndianGaming/comments/1f4jh13/what_gpu_does_everyone_use_over_here/
Is the a 4070 Ti Super brand to avoid? Looming at getting the Gigabyte Gaming OC, Zotac AMP Holo or the Asus TUF. All seem to be pretty decent from the looks of it. Any recommendations or better alternatives? I do need Nvidia for the CUDA cores, I learned that and not OpenCL
>>102149229Asus rtx4090 matrix>t. non-indian
>>102149205i remember when i first got a laptop i was discussing computers at a yugioh tournament and told the other gaming enthusiasts that i had to "download more ram" for a game I wanted to play. i didnt understand why they laughed
>>102149019clc will probably die out as systems running the average workload on a consumer level don't require a heavy setup that demands clc, and sure, they never didbut everything is getting too priceything is, AIOs have progressed fine enough that enthusiasts pushing benchmarks can be satisfied with them all at a fraction of the cost now, and normal consumers only need air cooling
>>102148967what about memory power down?
>>102147492You go blind and your brain backfills what it thinks you saw when looking quickly from A to B
>>102149019Water cooling is a meme CPU/ gpus should not be pushing 500-1000w eachMy old case with good airflow is more then enoughAios pushing pumps that can only be run through 100usd drm boxes like corsairs icue link connect bullshit that ltt called out Had a 420mm rad it was no better than air and had my 1080ti under water was no better than a decent air cooler
>>102147665$40 for 5 140mm fans? Those must be some niggerlicious fans because a good 140mm costs $20 alone. Good luck with that.
>>102149331>$20 for a fanYou're getting ripped off
>>102149331No, you just overpay like a tard
>>102149274I can't see shit if I flick my head fast enough, true, I actually trained myself to ignore the blur in games when I control the camera as well. But you can see it in other things moving around you if monitor is terrible enough.
>spend upwards of 1500 us dollary doos to put water on your components>inherent risk of leaks and shorting equipment>have to spend excessive amount of time for regular deep cleans and other maintenance that comes with water cooling>all for marginally better temperatures and slightly quieter systemi won't ever understand it
>>102149394they just like fiddling with stuffIt has never been practical
What are the retard moves I'm making here?
>>102149437Overkill PSU, not waiting for 5090, SSD for bulk storage
>>102149437There's no way this isn't bait
>>102149437Get NVMe storage
>>102149437omg those are SATA SSD??? Didn't even notice. Yeah, bait 100%
>>102149437upgrade to a MSI Mortar at least, the codec on that is ALC4080 compared to the garbage ALC897 in every budget board
>>102149437overkill psuwhere is your nvme os/games drive(s)gigabyte 4090s are shithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AAJs4VMbp4
>>102149453Buy nice or buy twice. Quality high wattage PSU will last multiple builds. Same goes for case.I've only had 3 PSUs in my life. An Antec one which came with the case, which fried itself, an EVGA one, and I only switched to a SeaSonic recently due to needing ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0.
>>102149534do you really think you'll need more than 850-950w in 5 years time?
>>102149504>Should you buy 4090 from Gigabyte?Yes you should buy one if you actually game with your pc in your room and don't want coil whine
>>102149604do you have a single piece of evidence to back that claim up
>>102149534You literally won't need 1200W ever unless nvidia decides to yeet efficiency out of the window
Overkill psus are nice because they stay silent.
>>102149627i mean if hes running a 14900K compiling on all cores and also rendering on an overclocked 4090 drawing 500-600w at the same time he would need it but i dont think thats the use case here
Do the Asus Pro Art cards have something in them that makes them less good for games? Is it some quadro-lite or what is the gimmick?
>>102149640my pc is silent under the desk with dollar store fans
>>102149708i think they just need more tuning. theyre only dual fan, right? i doubt that makes a difference though
>buy AM5 board from Amazon during a random price drop, intending to build my new pc part by part over the next few months>skip upgrading my gpu since everything costs a ton>local store randomly decides to cut down prices of the 4070ti to the point where it's cheaper than the 4070 superjust my luck haha hopefully they keep it in stock long enough for me to get it.
>7800x3d up to $413 nowIt'll drop a little when the 9800x3d comes out right?right?
thoughts? also is it worth waiting for the new x3d cpus?
building my first pc, just wanted to check if I got everything right.
>>102150144get a water cooler bro
>>102150150my wife's son told me that air cooling was more efficient, haha.But I guess I'll look into it.
>>102150144gr8 b8 m9
>>102150166the fans need to have flashing rainbow lights otherwise you can't see your computer
>>102150166Taking the cuckoldisol by raising another man's kid huh
>>102150166that cooler could passively cool a 2700kwhy are you building an ewaste machine
>>102149907its going to be out of stock or expensive until intel gets its shit together
>>102150179I would hardly call it an ewaste. I plan to play lots of deadlock and Overwatch 2 on this puppy while my wife goes on business trips to jamaica.>>102150177small minded people like you wouldn't get it.>>102150176Interesting, got any idea for case fans?
>>102150144getting ready for monster hunter wilds I see
>>102150196oh i just noticed the 4090carry on
>>102150144out of the 8 billion or whatever people there are in the world, at least one person must've built a pc with these exact components, right?I've seen people do more retarded shit.
