>>102210018
>ROG CROSSHAIR X670E HERO
>7800X3D
>7900 XTX
>G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 96GB DDR5 6800MHz
>SAMSUNG 990 PRO 4TB
>SAMSUNG 990 PRO 4TB

Did I do good bros?

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Halo 2 was too ambitious. It was like two generations too early for the tech it was trying to push. Even if they did manage to ship stencil shadows, the resolution/performance would have been too low. pic-related is only simulated/approximated btw, it's not even the real deal that could have been with pixel perfect shadows and dynamic lights.

I just don't know what PSUs don't have some weird catch
Pure Power seems good but the cables are far too short
Toughpower GF3 seems to have poor cables too
The Corsair RM750e just seems to have all sorts of issues
And the MSI ones don't seem too trustworthy

I just don't know what to do since the Seasonic ones jumped up in price

>>102210059
overkill RAM, overkill motherboard, which XTX?

>>102210066
/pcbg/ - PC Building General?

>>102210166
mid tier PSU are all the same more or less, just do not buy anything that isn't Gold these days
want something decent get Corsair RMx series, but they are higher in price than RMe

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Why do high end mobos not have button battery

>>102210166
GF3 is A tier though

Was the 1080Ti the last GOATed card?

Which mATX board is the best value for a Ryzen 7700?

i miss deepcool
i kinda liked how their air coolers generally looked

>>102210408
Why does the Assassin IV get so much praise?

I'm trying to undervolt a 4070 super here. I'm fine setting core and memory clocks on MSI afterburner, but when using the curve editor to undervolt, it doesn't matter if I adjust any other settings (I can just use stock core and memory clock settings) that my memory clock frequency will get halved during benchmarks. Any ideas? It just gets capped to 1250mhz.

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Why do some motherboards don't have a battery for BIOS memory? How is the BIOS kept in this case?

How is the stock cooler that comes with non-X Ryzen CPUs? I know they cool well enough for gaming loads but how noisy do they get?

Similar thread the other day had a 4070Super at 1080p instead of 1440p. I personally think it'll be fine for the rest of this console generation at 1440p. Just wondering why the change?

>>102210513
The thread OP rotates between a mentally ill schizo and helpful anons.

>>102210364
From what I can see skimming current offerings:
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/motherboard/#s=41&f=7&sort=price&c=160

The ASRock B650M Pro RS WiFi despite being M-ATX still has support for 3x M.2-2280 slots, 2x USB 3.2 Gen 1 Headers & 1x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Header and a fine 8-phase VRM with beefy heatsinks for $150 is hard to argue against for value:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qcbRsY/asrock-b650m-pro-rs-wifi-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-b650m-pro-rs-wifi
^Only real downside I see is it uses the Realtek ALC897 audio chip which is getting long in the tooth but it's still serviceable.

If you need something any cheaper I'd go for the ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 @ $140
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Dq4Zxr/asrock-b650m-hdvm2-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-b650m-hdvm2

Any cheaper and you get into trash like MSI PRO B650M-P & Gigabyte B650M K that can't run AM5 chips without throttling or really barebones A620-based boards:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naX-DnKekCM

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Prove you're not a Nvidia shills

Say something nice about AMD

>>102210537
They are cheaper

>>102210537
Honestly that's pretty hard with their GPUs.
Maybe that FSR is available on older Nvidia cards? They make good processers though.

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>>102210537
I'm showing my age but I remember when AMD was the first to offer serious multi-monitor display out support on consumer-level GPUs that had been reserved for workstations wayback with what they called Eyefinity and caused Nvidia to have to play catchup in their next GPU launch:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/2937/10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZAkCoaq384
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShMjw_4gUbg

*Sips drink* Yep, those were the days...

>>102210537
Their CPUs are nice

>>102210537
They usually shove an obnoxious amount of VRAM on their cards.

>>102210537
i don't care about ray tracing and will never use upscaling

>>102210537
If you want best performance, you buy an nvidia gpu. If you want best price to performance and don’t mind driver issue intel gpu.

>>102210630
Good morning sars

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Professional retard here:
One of my friends found an Asus LGA 1700 for cheap on FB marketplace. My fellow retard is thinking about it, but he's scared about the ongoing bullshit with 13th and 14th gen defects or whatever, as am I.
Q1: Does it extend back to 12th? Or has that gen been spared Intel's dumbfuckery?
Q2: I'm an AMD fag who has always tolerated their bullshit. Is AM4 still worth it for a newfag? Or should I tell him to pony up for an AM5 mb?
No need for in depth answers, anything is fine by me. Thanks in advance, anonies.

>>102210730
>Q1: Does it extend back to 12th? Or has that gen been spared Intel's dumbfuckery?
No, just 13 & 14th Gen. Also if he buys a fresh 13/14th Gen CPU fresh now and install the latest BIOS it should keep it from ever degrading.
>Q2: I'm an AMD fag who has always tolerated their bullshit. Is AM4 still worth it for a newfag? Or should I tell him to pony up for an AM5 mb?
Depends on his budget and what he plans to do with his machine. Ultra cheap gaming? AM4. Big multi-threaded projects? AM5. All-arounder? LGA 1700. High-end gaming? AM5 (for the 7800X3D).

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>>102210757
arigato, anonie-sama.
here's some ass

What's the expected thermal improvement for repasting a 6-7 year old GPU? Also why are thermal pad prices so fucking obscene (not in the US)?

I was thinking about upgrading my computer then I realized... I have no games I want to play. Maybe some Civ 5 or TW:W but that's about it. I'm not interested in the latest AAA slops.

Why do you guys bother upgrading to the latest gen when there's no game worth playing?

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>>102210757
>No, just 13 & 14th Gen. Also if he buys a fresh 13/14th Gen CPU fresh now and install the latest BIOS it should keep it from ever degrading.
And not just "all 13th & 14th gen". It doesn't effect i3's and i5's that aren't K skus. So if he's going lower end it won't matter.
If he buys a new higher end chip then the new bios will sort it, and he can also learn to undervolt them and power limit pretty easily and will get 90% of the max performance but below 250w and with zero risk of the voltage issue.
Intel are rumoured to be releasing a new series of LGA 1700 CPU's early next year that won't be impacted by the bugs, and then later in the year variants with just P cores.

>>102211299
Because I'm not poor and I still get improvements in other non-gaming stuff I do. I upgraded to a 13900k and DDR5 for Battlefield 2042 because the 9900k I had was starting to be a performance blocker in certain things (3 years old and I use large res high hz monitors), and got my 3080 mostly for Cyberpunk (although it was only their delays which had the game come out after), which let me finally retire my SLI 980ti's that were over 5 years old at that point and with SLI finally being killed off they were at the end of their useful life.

Are there any comparisons between the coolers on the Gigabyte 4070 Super Gaming OC vs the Zotac 4070 Super Trinity?

>>102211380
>I'm not poor
>3080
>13900k
>I still get improvements in other non-gaming stuff
>BF 2042 and cyberpunk
Getting some mixed messages here anon

>use a debit card to buy pc parts from amazon
>7 days passed, amazon didnt claim the money and its refunded to me
>but one of the parts I ordered has already arrived because amazon automatically splits shipments even if its the same order?
>also I got some random charges that I cant find wheres the source from since it doesnt match any of my purchase but they charged it while my debit card had no balance so the charge was canceled
is this normal
im a 3rd worlder using amazon for the first time so I dont know what to make of this

>>102211380
>3080
> Not poor
pick one

>>102211437
Christmas came early for you huh

>>102211467
I just hope amazon ninjas dont come knocking my door

>>102211437
Never had that happen to me but gratz
Hope you're not blacklisted

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>remove one fucking RAM stick
>critcal failure! Nuke your cmos! Factory reset!

>>102210496
I was checking on $20 ventirad and the review was something like "at this pricepoint there's no reason for anyone to endure stock cooler noises anymore".
So I'd guess noisy enough that only extreme poorfag would bother with it.

>>102211401
I bought the 3080 and 13900k on their release dates, although I have a 14900k now for reasons unrelated to the intel bugs/oxidation. Will be getting a 5080 or 5090 once that comes out.

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How do you feel about RGB?

I usually hate it, but there is a great deal on RGB fans that fit in my specifications.

Sh... should I do it?

Areocool fans, just $9 each. Same as the low noise silverstone ones I was planning to use, and they are also low noise...

>>102210018
I hate that 4070 super is miles better than 4060 ti but has 4GB less memory and I don't want to settle for that so I have to overpay for 4070 ti super.
Fucking njewdia, I swear to god.

>>102211567
i just don't plug in the part that does the leds when my pc parts do that colour shit. but my ram does colours and there's nothing to unplug, so they can be gay deep inside my case where it doesn't bother me

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>>102211582
For a specific reason I actually need to access the inside of my case on a regular basis. And I do quite like being able to see the inside of my case.

So I was thinking of getting the RGB lights and turning them to be just white...

I've recently moved to new location and the room where my computer is actually very dark so perhaps some lights inside the case would help in the situation.

No this is not a troll I literally use the top heat spreader of my GPU in order to heat testosterone in peanut oil

>>102211601
oh nice, which ester? warm-hot water in a plate or bowl would do the same, but i do appreciate the idea of finding use for otherwise waste heat

>fans at 800 rpm
>aio pump screeching

>>102211688
skill issue, move the radiator so the highest point is above the pump.

>>102211725
it is like that

Installed o-rings on keycaps. typing feels so weird now but it did make it quieter, by about 40%.

>craptop dies
>move back to my old pc (hasn't been on for at least 2 years)
>load up furmark
>GPU hotspot 105C in like 3 mins
The paste and pads are probably fucked up, right?

>>102211810
likely dried out, use PTM7950 for the core

What's a decent cheapish 30-34" QHD/4K monitor these days? My main monitor just died and I'm back on my old 1080 which just looks like ass so I'm wanting to buy asap without doing deep dives into panel technologies. Last one was QHD 27" and I want to go a little larger, but I genuinely don't care about max Hz, I was meme'd into buying a high refresh one last time and ended up locking it to 60Hz most of the time. Cost isn't too much of a factor but if I'm not needing the bleeding edge in monitor tech I'd rather pay as little as possible for a 75Hz QHD with decent image quality than a 250Hz 8k monster. Also is curved and/or ultrawide a gimmick?

>>102211828
>15 bucks for a single thermal pad
Lmao, the GPU is probably barely worth 100 (1070Ti). Guess I'll keep the temp limit way down until I can upgrade.

>>102211841
if you used those pads for your laptop it wouldn't have died.

>>102211618
Jenasteron. 250 testE in peanut oil

But I moved, so have to switch to a different type in 6 months :^(

>>102211838
>and ended up locking it to 60Hz most of the time
should've played at max refresh/60fps
UW is a gimmick but good for two cases 1. flight sims 2. you have A LOT windows opened for work
for media OLEDs available under $700
for general use consult the OP, getting 1440p at 32" would look like your 1080p

>>102211828
is this a meme? is it for cpu too

>>102211880
not as effective for CPU, still good, but CPU paste is way easier to replace than a GPU
it works really well for laptop chips and GPUs, no pump out issues, and lasts forevver

>>102211857
It didn't even have a dedicated GPU, man, it died because it was a Lenovo piece of junk (got it brand new from work for half off but obviously I regret it now).

>>102211890
i didnt catch on that it was a laptop thing. whats the best formation for thermal paste on a pc

>>102211900
and whats the best thermal paste

>>102210467
They do - it is just buried under one of the heatsinks.

My HDD from 2008 might've kicked the bucket

How do I recover the data from it? There's so much garbage programs shilled throughout search engines that I can't find one that's reliable

https://www.austin.net.au/products/inno3d-geforce-rtx-4090-ichill-x3-nvidia-24-gb-gddr6x?_pos=1&_sid=a2288e127&_ss=r
cheapish 4090 here ausbros
got a 79xtx pulse couple of weeks back from centercom for 1350 posted which id recommend over it unless you absolutely need nvidia gated bullshit

>>102211912
a) why didn't you back up
b) why weren't you on SSD already
c) any of the cloning software will work

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>>102210537

>>102211930
should have got a custom aib with the 3x 8pin 79xtx or 6950xt m8
whos the deshrouded a 290x? i had a 290 390 390x 68xt 69xt and now 79xtx pulse

>>102211900
these pads is the best paste, if you can't get it then arctic cooling is go to, because it's price/perf king

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>>102211936
>should have got a custom aib with the 3x 8pin 79xtx or 6950xt m8
No as I bought that on launch and i'm not paying the premium aib models charged for a fairly negligible increase in performance which is achieved just by throwing power at the chip. The nitro is maybe 10% faster but eats 100w more.

>whos the deshrouded a 290x?
Sapphire tri-x. It actually turned out to be a near golden sample as it will run at 1200mhz (which is a monstrous 20% core OC) but goddamn does it need voltage and power to do it. For some benchmark runs it could handle 1215-1220mhz but I couldn't keep it stable and I don't think it can hold that any more after the abuse it took.

>>102212003
>07/02/2015
i have no idea what yall are talking about but

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>>102212054

>>102212097
thats me ill see myself out

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>RGB version of RAM I want is literally $1 more

Sh... should I?

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>>102212197

>>102212197
Would you buy that for a dollar?

>>102212197
How hard is it to turn off ram lights?

>>102212197
I'd pay $1 more for no RGBT

>>102211601
>>102211618
>>102211860
Sametrooning

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>>102212248
Generally I agree, but I'm tempted by this case... it looks good with rgb...

A moment of silence for all the LEDs that were sacrificed to shine in closed cases

This time of year, how much would someone building a pc typically save by waiting for shopping season in a few months compared to buying now? Have sales actually been good in recent years?

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>>102212286
I'm not a troon. I am on trt for chronic fatigue induced by ptsd

whats the best thermal putty? i need it for my gpu since the pads are 3+ years worn out.

>>102212294
I think you might save some bucks during black friday. Also considering all those upcoming AMD, Nvidia and Intel releases in this and start of the next year I personally expect sellers dropping prices even more trying to get rid of the old stuff, but that's probably just me.

>>102212294
Last year prices were cheapest in the summer

>>102212303
Geez buddy. What desteoyed you so hard?

>>102212197
Just black tape the leds

>>102212394
Being severely abused repeatedly as a child.

>>102212464
i wish you well man.

whats the best course of action for upgrading my shitbox
(put together with spare parts)
2600, r9 fury x, 16gb, cx750w, shitty gigabyte b450m
looking to do some gamin with my lg 34 1440p + running as a media server
not bothered about maxing out graphics
preferably an amd gpu for freesync.
budget around £800 , uk
cheers

>>102212197
how nice does it play with your mobo rgb software? try to google some convos about it

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I want to buy a CPU for both work (VMs, Docker, compilation, etc) and games.
Any reason why I shouldn't get a Ryzen 9900X?

Just realized I installed a couple of stupid things on my SSD (Mozilla, Libreoffice, MBytes, nomacs, a paint.net clone, 7zip) because I didn't pay attention. Everything else including Steam and various games are on my HDD with all my other user files. I'm obsessed with perfection so it's been bugging me a lot.

Any risk this will affect read/write cycles negatively? All these programs are used a lot
SSD is quite old, Crucial bought in 2013 and it's still 85% good but I really want to maximize its lifespan and I'd be happy to not touch it for another 10 years if possible

Should I move all of it? What's your general philosophy when it comes to SSD/HDD setups?

>>102212476
drop in a 5600, 5700x if vrm allows and an rdna2 graphics card
you want to replace the psu and buy new 3600cl18 2x16 kit

>>102212476
get a 5700x3d for under £200
get another 16gb ram for about £40
get a 7900 GRE for about £520

Prices taken from just eyeballing Scan right now.

>>102212496
>and games
wait for the x3D then

I am so tired of waiting but I still refuse to waste my money

>>102212543
what are you waiting for

>>102212543
You will buy a 5060 for 550 shekels and 8gb vram and be happy.

>>102212521
>>102212525
don't fall for the 3d meme

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>>102212554
okay pat

>>102212554
that's the sound of no 3D V-cache cope right here

>>102212512
Only writes affect SSD lifespan, not reads. Still i'd move what I assume you mean is firefox off that as it will cache a lot of data for web browsing.

>>102212628
The cache is on your C:\ drive or in your home folder on linux it makes no difference

>>102212512
>Any risk this will affect read/write cycles negatively? All these programs are used a lot
It's unlikely to be anything significant.
>maximize its lifespan
it's more likely the controller module will die than the memory chips.
>Should I move all of it
to where?
>What's your general philosophy when it comes to SSD/HDD setups?
I use a windows install specific partition of about 120gb and the rest for games, on the fastest drive. I have another smaller drive for utilities. I happen to have two older SSDs, one is only 500gb and all I use it for is holding music, the other is an old WD Blue 2tb Sata M.2 drive and I use that for (mostly older or smaller) games as well to spread the load and save my main SSD from getting full.

>>102212353
Thanks. I wasn't aware there'd be new releases so soon.
>>102212354
I hope I didn't miss good deals a few months ago.

>>102212570
I have an Intel 13700k. Should I get the 9800x3d in January 2025, I have a good gpu using 4k?

>>102212676
>to where?
To the HDD.
My basic understanding about SSD and HDD division is use the SSD for the OS and big games (in my case Windows, Linux and probably GTA IV or Cyberpunk), and HDD for everything else.
I don't know why but I probably assumed having Firefox, nomacs and co on my SSD would speed them up. I'd been working all day and not really clear-minded but now I doubt this has any effect at all.

>>102212670
So that makes no difference?

>>102212753
No. X3D only makes sense when you're CPU bottlenecked and 13700k is already pretty fast
But if you want it for lower power draw, by all means go ahead

>>102212753
too soon to upgrade you should not upgrade CPU more than once every 5 years imo. what resolution do you usually play at?

>>102212866
4K monitor, thinking about the 5090. I don't know how much of a bottleneck to be worth it?

>>102212886
4k is very hard to run you won't be cpu bottlenecked

>>102212886
buy a new CPU when the 5090 is out if you want then then but the higher the resolution the more you are GPU bound.

>>102210432
Anyone?

Is there a privacy reason to not go with a mobo with wifi?

>>102213362
non wifi boards are cheaper. no reason to pay for something you never use
maybe something to do with pcie lanes too?

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Day 516 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/mrz8n6

Unsure if I want to go RGB or not.
Using it for work and games, can claim it on tax so don’t mind spending a decent amount.

what thermal putty do I get? so many to choose from

>>102213666
check reviews on youtube. there's a channel that maintains rankings

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>>102212525
>>102212570
>>102212574
The X3D CPUs are slower than their equivalently priced non-X3D counterparts for pretty much anything except games. (please correct me if I'm wrong)
As I mentioned on my post, I plan to use my PC also for work (Virtualization, Docker, code compilation, etc).

And even for games, many times they fall into one of these 2 categories:
>modern/heavy games:
I'll most certainly be GPU bottlenecked playing at 4K.

>old/light games:
Any relatively modern CPU is more than capable of achieving framerates higher than the monitor/TV hz.

In both cases the X3D CPUs lose their advantage.

>>102212886
For modern games, playing at 4K will probably make you GPU bottlenecked, and not CPU. But check benchmarks.

>>102210582
Such a good looking card. Miss these days

>>102212512
My philosophy when it comes to HDDs is replacing them with SSDs wherever you can.
> Mozilla
Firefox? You could tell it to store its cache in RAM. It's faster and reduces writes to permanent storage media.

>>102213885
what if I play autism simulators map painters and mmos?

>>102211905
Noctua
Laptop was high temp shutdowning but now I can put it on my lap again

>>102213219
Nevermind I'm being retarded here
Too much of an undervolt will cause this

>>102213910
Are you talking about framerate or processing speed for tasks like enemy turns, etc?

>>102213979
obviously the latter
frames are fucking useless if it takes 40 seconds per turn or the game slows the fuck down because you have too many conveyor belts

>>102210166
Is there a particular reason you wouldn't buy the Super Flower LEADEX VII XG? I have the 850W version and it's flawless.

>>102210537
Their CPUs are better than Intel's these days

>>102214006
Then that's a kinda niche use-case that you need to check specific benchmarks for.
Usually when people talk about CPU speed for games, they're talking about frame generation speed.

https://old.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/1f7y4ok/no_gaming_improvements_seen_with_amd_ryzen_9/

AYYMDEAD IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT

AYYMDEADPOORFAGS LITERALLY IN SHAMBLES

>>102213885
if you already know what you want then stop bothering us.

>>102214202
>the green goblin grinned as he typed

>>102214256
It is nice to have discussions to know about blind spots that one might have missed.
I'm not the know-all of CPUs. I am validating/invalidating my reasoning by posting my points to you guys.

Trying to benchmark my GPU
I'm using Unigine Superposition with everything ultramaxed to shit but still below max VRAM
I'm getting inconsistent scores with the same exact settings, sometimes 490, sometimes 460, sometimes 500. Any way to get this stable? Is there something on wangblows 11 in the background that can change this?

I just bought an used 3080 GAMING OC 10G (rev. 1.0)

>>102214414
Try Steel Nomad instead.

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>>102214427
>10G

>>102214481
>Steel Nomad
Aight I'll try that
Is it good for testing memory overclocks?

>>102214523
About as good as any - i'm not really aware of any gpu specific software designed to hammer memory.

>>102210537
im still using my Sapphire RX580. It’s been great. my main drive has been moved on to an RTX 30 series

>>102213909
NTA but thanks for reminding me to move my Firefox to RAM in my new PC. Forgot about that till now

bros what do I do, got around 6k euros budget
mostly doing WFH programming and gayming (World of Warcaft and Path of Exile) on Linux
already got a monitor 1440p@144
want to go with RX9500XTX for GPU
but im not sure what CPU do I want, should I go with ryzen 9 9950x for programming or 7950x3d or maybe wait for 9950x3d
looks like 9950x wins at timed compilation (and might even win harder in the future not sure if llvm fully uses avx512)

>Built pc a month ago.
>Used laptops all my life before.
>Performance now was better, but not THAT much better.
>Realized today that I was using the IGPU instead of the GPU in all games.
>Spent 2 hours trying to realize what the issue was.
>Turns out I put the HDMI cable on the motherboard, so the gpu did nothing.
>Games now run smooth on max graphics.
I feel so foolish.

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>>102210018
Bought in 2021. Ryzen 5 3600 and an RX 570 from 2019!!!, 16gb of ddr4 ram 3600 16CL.
Haven't looked at the state of pc parts since then, wow how has it changed.

I got a 1440p 165hz monitor like a consoomer idiot and now DAYZ won't run high fps. Whats the least GPU to get to have DAYZ 1440p 120hz at high, I need it before Frostline! :^) o7 <3

>>102215002
ah the classic wrong port issue, make sure your monitor is definitely running at 144hz as well

>>102215063
RX 7700XT

>>102215063
Upgrade your CPU to 5700X3D, upgrade to 32gb of ram, make sure you have games on an SSD, and upgrade your GPU for an RX 6800XT or better for AMD, or an RTX 3080 or better.

$67 on 6 Arctic P12 fans, or $90 on 6 Arctic P12 MAX fans?

>>102215092
>>102215063
dont get the 5700x3d, clock speed is too low
x3d is a fucking meme unless you are an esport nerd or a paypig, raw clocks can drive any games at 144hz with enough gpu and thats all you fucking need

>>102215193
>muh niggahertz

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My pp go up

>>102210018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrewv1WaV4w
Lunar lake launch? Or arrowlake too?

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>>102215319

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>>102210467
>one board to rule them all

>>102215193
So... something like the 5700x then?

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>>102210730
how i print the bobwoman

Is it worth paying $50ish more for the nicer model gpus like the TUF, gaming OC, XLR8 Gaming etc?
Looking at the 4070S or Ti S

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>>102215319
>>102215333
I should have bought a sapphire back then instead of this msi garbage. taught me a lesson to never trust the "military grade components" label on the card package. shit didn't live longer than a year before it broke

>>102215351
5700x if you are poor or 5800x3d

>>102215380
>military grade components
That label was 100% accurate, though, you just didn't know what that means. It's like normies buying "genuine leather" not realising that's the lowest grade.

After a power surge my pc won't turn on. I'm checking what died.
If I unplug everything from my current PSU except the motherboard, nothing happens.
If I plug an old PSU to the motherboard, the leds light up, so it seems like the motherboard isn't the issue. Both PSUs work when I do the paper clip power test.
Then I tried connecting the old PSU to my PC but it won't turn on, not even the motherboard. It lights up for half a second and then dies again. Maybe another component is fried, idk? I tried smelling stuff or checking if there's anything charred etc but I couldn't find any.
Asking here because /sqt/ straight up ignored me, sorry if this isn't the place.
Also fuck typing in a phone.

With a budget of 200 eurobucks, any normal to slim ATX sized case that's airflow focused and highly recommended? I don't want one of those thick ones where you put the PSU behind the motherboard and such. In fact I want the exact opposite of that.

>>102215086
Where I live it's 440eur cheapest so if thats the minimum, thats crazy!
>>102215092
Its DayZ not a modern AAA, and believe it or not, a non XT RX 6800 here sells for 350, so i doubt thats a good deal either. Anything lower viable?
>>102215193
It's an old game so even without running a benchmark yet Im pretty sure its just the GPU bottlenecking on the new monitor

>>102215609

4000D Airflow :^)

>>102215625
the RX 6800 non XT is an insane deal for 350 euro and is as fast as a 7700XT with more memory

>>102215581
Have you tried turning it on using the old PSU without any components connected (ram, SSD, etc)?

Also worth a shot. Disconnecting the BIOS battery for a minute then reconnecting it.

>>102215649
Oh, I didn't think about that. I'll try both, nice idea!

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how many fell for it?

would really appreciate some advice on this. so my GPU just suddenly crapped out on me and won't get recognised by windows and the fans don't spin up like they used to on boot either. I have cleared cmos, reseated GPU about 4 times now and even tried to test a different PSU that for some reason won't power up the system. I think the "test" PSU should work fine as I shorted the on pin and the fan spun up. but could it even be power issues? PC starts just fine with old PSU and the integrated graphics.

I have no fucking clue what the issue is here

>>102215625
then upgrade GPU first to your desired fps
if you experiencing stutters, upgrade the CPU

>>102215691
its true doe
gpu improvements have far outpaced singlethreaded gains and highend gpus are almost permanently cpu bottlenecked below 2160p

>>102215775
the recommendation is retarded. and nobody buys high-end GPUs to play at 1080

>>102215747
If your motherboard has one of those open PCIe x1 (or anything besides the primary x16 slot) try inserting your GPU into those slots and testing if the GPU is recognized there. If it is, then obviously your GPU is ok, and your primary x16 slot might be fucked. Otherwise your GPU might be dead.

>>102215380
I literally still have and it works

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>>102210018
wtf battlemage is faster than rdna3.5

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>>102215831

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I need to buy a 1tb ssd (2.5 inch) for storing computer lab stuff for class, any recommended brands or models?

>>102215858
Crucial MX500 is the best in-class SATA SSD

>>102215930
And good ones thats cheaper?

>>102215649
>>102215664
Using the old PSU now. I disconnected the BIOS battery for a minute or so.
I also disconnected both my ram and CPU power cable (?, that eight pin thingy) and pc-kun turned on. I tried connecting a monitor to it but I couldn't get any signal, so maybe it isn't working properly... I connected the CPU back on and it went back to being dead. Then I plugged the ram back in and it turned on but no monitor signal. I have no idea what is going on kek
Maybe the CPU died or something? I need a functioning CPU to access BIOS right?

>>102213551
>$400 on aio
christ, you say it's don't mind spending but fmd you can get a better performing Arctic Liquid Freezer III 360mm for $180 for the ARGB version for $200.
>PSU
Get the be quiet dark power 13 titanium, it's native 12vhpwr. $350 for the 850w which will be more than enough.
>ram
you picked ram with a higher first word latency than you should.
Corsair Vengeance 64 GB CMK64GX5M2B6400C32 is $340. same but ARGB CMH64GX5M2B6400C32 is $350.
gskill have trident Z5 RGB in black or white F5-6400J3239G32GX2-TZ5RK F5-6000J3040G32GX2-TZ5RW for $350
>only a 4070
you would be better off with a 4080 super, MSI Ventus 3x OC is $1750.
I would also add another drive to be your OS drive. I'd go a 990 Pro 1tb or a 1tb of the SN850X.
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/8RryJy
This is a much better list and doesn't cost much more than yours.

>>102215985
Nvm I found a buying guide list

>>102215985
BX500 or EVO 850/860

>>102216006
The MX 500 is already the best budget SSD, surely it can't cost that much from the lower tier drives like the CS900 or BX500 or A400 or A55 to get it?

>>102213551
Consider 7950x3d

>>102213551
>https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/mrz8n6

Why spend all that extra money on other parts and then get a 4070, you could just be a little frugal and get yourself a 4090?

like a AIO and a whole bunch of fans to cool a 4070 and 7800x3d?

>>102216027
Well its 95 bucks and A400 is 67 bucks but ig its not that much more

>boot windows once
>it deletes my grub

>>102216077
U changed to windows in bios or booted it in grub?

>>102216091
turns out my bios rearranged my boot order after toggling csm

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I am ready for battlemage

>>102211567
I used to hate it, then at some point I started liking it and now my entire shit is argb
no rainbows and shit though, I have them run animations on loop and low brightness
it adds to the white case

>>102215989
I'm gonna assume your GPU is still disconnected, otherwise it's probably taking priority from your CPU's iGPU (assuming your CPU has an iGPU).

Yes, you need at least a working CPU and RAM to get into the BIOS and that CPU power needs to be connected as well. Can't recall if some motherboards will still display something or if it'll just power on then off.

Try 1 stick of ram at a time and in different slots until you've tried them all or you get a display.

You could try to get the CPU out to check if the CPU or socket are burnt but I think you'd be able to smell if anything was burned. You could also use this opportunity to reseat the CPU, doubt this'll be the case but at least you can check it off the list.

Doubt you have a spare CPU for that socket but try swapping if you do. At this point it could be your MB or your CPU.

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just had a bit of a chat with the guys that work at my local pc hardware/building store and they told me they made a decision to never stock Radeon GPUs again because they give them too many headaches and get sent back all the time, that they don't last at all compared to Nvidia.

I was a bit taken aback since I've been wanting to change over because of Linux compatibility and generally not making any use of RT tech, is it likely they just got burned with a bad batch or what?

I rarely see people on here or D tier ecelebs who have no incentive to lie about it mention Radeon card failure...

>>102211908
or under the io shield

>>102216336
post non-anecdotal evidence or neck yourself

Is it really that necessary to have a high refresh rate monitor? They’re kinda expensive and I don’t even play fps games

>>102216385
once you use one you will realize 60hz is like looking at a slideshow

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>>102216380
Maybe when I go back there to pick my order up I'll ask about the specifics of their problems, they really just said "thermals, drivers, or just plain failure".

Idk what fking evidence you want since the exact point I'm making is that I've never seen any for what they claim.

>>102216336
I think gpu preference follows the bell curve chart meaning really stupid people buy amd cards not just enthusiasts

>>102216385
144hz is good enough, it's a world of difference for pretty much any 3d game from 60hz. Look at AOC models, they're affordable

>>102216418
this is probably likely but how is AMD any easier to fuck up than NVIDIA? Retards with terrible PSUs or something?

>>102216287
Tasteful RGB > no RGB build > rainbow puke

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>>102216441
yeah I fucking hate that preset rainbow puke the cheap argb stuff have by default
also I spent way too much time setting this shit up

>>102216434
psus definitely come into play, maybe windows not installing the right drivers automatically or something
Maybe their friends say amd le bad etc

>>102216336
AMD have a well earned reputation for having extremely variable quality on their drivers going way back 20+ years ago to the 8500. In 2023 they bricked windows installs last year with a shitty driver and also got people banned in CS2 because of their drivers. If you're just one guy on your home system you might be okay with that. If you're a PC store, and you look at the current steam survey results.. Nvidia dominates it and has the top 30 discrete GPU's. AMD only have about a 10% market share of discrete GPU and their most used cards are the RX 580 which came out in 2017 and the RX 6600 which was 2021.
They probably got burned by one particular card generation from AMD and got a bunch of returns and went 'this is too much fucking work for cards that we don't sell many, don't make much profit on and that 90% of our customers don't care about".

>>102216336
Amd windows drivers just plain suck
Their Linux drivers are only good because the open source drivers are maintained by unpaid employees

am i the odd one out or do people use their monitors at way too high brightness?
was looking at the settings people use for the monitor i just got any people are saying 80-90%+ brightness, i use my shit at like 40% brightness
granted that's generally in a dark room but even when i've got the lights on and it's fully lit i don't change the brightness
are people really just out here blinding themselves in front of their pc?

>>102216514
I use brightness 0-5%

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>>102216489
I struggle to imagine someone weak enough to be peer pressured into returning a GPU...

>>102216489
I hadn't thought of the banning scandal due to the amd anti-lag or whatever. CS is really popular here too, that could be behind a lot of it....

>>102216508
I don't have any on hands experience with them. What sucks about them? I've been spending a load of my free time for a few weeks now reading up and most people seem to agree AMD drivers currently are very good so I'd love to hear a case against that.

>>102216385
are you talking about 360hz? 1080p240 go for like $180 on sale nowadays and I saw hardware unboxed did a review of some $200 1440p165 Dell

>>102216412
Mindfactory records the RMA rates of every product they sell. I just took a quick look at some current gen cards and AMD are a little higher but it's like 3% vs. 2%. Hardly worth discontinuing an entire product line over.
Now with that said I don't think they're wrong on the whole. Putting AMD cards in normie PCs is risky because they have no marketshare. The General Publick™ /will/ fuck it up somehow. Installing Nvidia drivers or software, trying to use DLSS or RTX, and so on.
Not to say that AMD is blameless btw. IME their drivers are generally less stable and they have had hardware problems on some gens. If you're DIY-ing those can be acceptable tradeoffs for the better value - you and I know how to DDU but your average punter is just going to take it back to the shop. The thin margins and high labour costs for a smaller integrator change the equation.

>>102210018
How should I know if my hdd is failing?
I've had it for more than 10 years.
For example, every week or so the hdd will just dissapear from my pc and I have to unplug its cables and put them on again. Right now I wanted to unzip a file into a folder and it gave me an "Ï/O" error of sorts.
Is my hdd dying?

>>102216546
I have used amd driver on windows since hd 5000 series (2009). never had any issues except when I tried windows iot ltsc.
now I use linux

600w

>>102215002
Many such cases. Often combo'd with the "I didn't set my monitor refresh rate in control panel" as well.

>>102216385
Pointless since you need 1000$ 500W gpu to use those monitors.

>>102216642
It probably is dying. You could try replacing the sata data cable with a new one, and then a different sata port on the motherboard.
I would also get anything important off it ASAP, because it's most likely dying and if it's not, AND it's not one of the above mentioned issues, it could mean your OS install is failing/bugged, or the motherboard or the CPU is dying.

>>102216736
I'm using the same kingston ssd for the past 5-6 years and there has never been a single problem with it.
I am on win 10, I remember using 8.1 for a week again to play around with it and it gave me a message about my hdd having problems and to back up its data somewhere else.
Both of these problems happen on win 10, except no message for bad hdd.
I've already ordered another hdd so its fine, just curious.

>>102216385
get 75hz minimum

>>102216385
Nah 144hz is fine. Running games over 200 fps is kinda pointless anyway

>>102213551
try to find CL30 if you go with DDR5 6000. the less latency the better.

>>102216788
75 Hz monitors are all old and shitty
144 Hz is the minimum these days just to get a decent monitor

>>102216514
I use 20% brightness in a moderately lit room

>>102216385
>I don’t even play fps games
If you play any games with camera control, yes, high refresh + adaptive sync is necessary

>>102216077
>dual booting
>2024
I warned you

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>https://youtu.be/TyvNfeRJdeI?t=5140
Explains a lot of what goes on around here.

>>102215810
yeah the card is toast );

it's a 6800xt that I've only had for about 2 years now and I was planning on upgrading with the 5000 series... might just coast on integrated graphics until then ):

thanks for the help

>>102215747
Sounds like graphics card is dead. If it's under three years old, likely still within the warranty period if you have a Geforce card. Two years is standard for Radeon

>>102215581
Can be hard to figure out what the problem is without swapping components. Test the PSU on a different system if possible

>>102215366
For 4070 Super I'd say no, for 4070 Ti Super maybe, but still probably not. You can get good models of both for MSRP in the USA

>>102215063
>Whats the least GPU to get to have DAYZ 1440p 120hz at high
Check benchmarks on youtube with common GPUs
https://youtu.be/U5UW08lcOgM?si=J28JtJAJmqEWMnOW
A used 3060 Ti or 3070 will get you there if you're trying to be cheap

Can you name me a single reason why I should replace my old reliable 5700xt with 7900XT? I need an excuse to tell my parents, why I stole their pension money.

>>102217001
Mesh shaders

>>102216963
what kind of psu did you use

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>>102213551
Retarded

>>102212476
>preferably an amd gpu for freesync.
Geforce can use any adaptive sync

>>102216901
>posting this retard in /pcbg/
Leave

Holy fuck why can't the mods ban this chucklefuck spamming the same posts and images for 4 years now

>>102217040
based anon for not watching and/or listening to whom is speaking

>>102217040
I posted this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO9dCLsX8E4 and you never addressed it

>>102216901
Marketing is a key asset of Nvidia. This has been the case for a long time now

>>102217061
All these tech-cucks are literal paid shills. I hate them so much.

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>>102216901

What CPU - GPU combo do I need to run Koikatsu with at least 240 FPS?

>>102217030
650w (test) and an 850w

>>102216971
no warranty i got it used from a friend

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>>102217057
Why so mad, little Tommy?

>>102217062
It wasn't particularly interesting. The only thing I have to say is that we have it pretty good these days, without rendering errors all over the place. Also frametime consistency is a lot better on modern cards, adaptive sync is amazing compared to v-sync, etc.

>>102217108
The butthurt and delusion in this post is top tier comedy
Tessellation and RT are Microsoft DirectX features. Not Nvidia's fault ATI and RTG suck at ASIC design

>>102217151
If you got it from a friend, you could likely get use his purchase information to get the card replaced, assuming it's still within the warranty period

>>102217151
my theories are bad current from low quality power supply or gpu sag desoldered the gpu

>>102217141
5800X3D+7800XT

>>102217180
one psu is Corsair RM850X and the other is the rm650x

>>102217173
unfortunately we dont speak with each other anymore

thanks for the attempted help but I don't think there's any way to fix this card that doesn't involve paying a repair shop. might just get a 4080 now and then sell it when the 5000-whatever comes out.

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I have an old PC with GTX 1060 and I want to upgrade the GPU. I want to use it mostly for playing older gayms from the Xbox360/PS3 and XboxOne/Ps4 era, and make them more pretty with shader injectors like Reshade, nothing new and fancy like Wukong: Monke. Since it's just 1080p and mostly older games where AI upscaling isn't available anyway, would an ATI card like a RX 7600 be a better option than Nvidia stuff like 3060 or 4060?

>>102217108
if you're going to keep using this I suggest you remove the last two bits. complaining about ray tracing and being too poor for high end GPU's is just cope & no-one cares about shillware unboxed and their seething entitlement to free GPU's
>we're unrepentant shills for your competitor and we constantly lie, mislead and make "mistakes" that always just magically happen to benefit your competitor, GIVE US FREE GPUs OR WE'LL SAY EVERYONE WHO GETS THEM IS DRIVING A NARRATIVE

>>102217173
real life shit roads look like the top picture doe

>>102215521
>It's like normies buying "genuine leather"
akshually
>Listed from best quality to worst, the five types, or grades of leather are full grain leather, top grain leather, genuine leather (also known as premium leather), split-grain leather and bonded leather.

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>>102217343
Used 2060 Super
Especially on an old PC playing old games, Nvidia is the better option. For instance if you have a i7 4770 or something similar, you'll be CPU limited a lot by Radeon's DX11 driver

>>102217343
7600 XT is maybe 10% better than a 4060, which is slightly better than a 7600, which is a decent chunk better than a 6600XT or 3060. Intels A770 is between a 7600 and a 3060.
From a 1050 though you'd get a massive boost in performance going as low as a 3050 or 2060 (although they are significantly lower performing than any of the cards I mention above). Even a 1660ti would be a huge improvement although only half the improvement you'd get from a 3050 and still significantly weaker than the 6600/3060 & above.
I would probably go for a 3060 or 2070 Super, as I prefer nvidia and those two cards are levels above the 3050/2060/1660ti/1070.

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>>102217661
Wtf I love Sapphire now

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for me it's this absolute SLUT on the 660gt box

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>He's not Windows Vista certified

If I have to go cheaper on some components, which ones should I choose? RAM and the SSD? The motherboard?

>>102217817
Everything except psu and monitor.

>>102210018
I'm trying to build a cheap beater pc and I'm wondering which option is best

Buy a used office pc and stick a gpu in it or build a cheap pc and buy a used cpu/gpu to go inside. Probably looking to just use a 1650 with a okay cpu.

>>102217944
Do you actually need graphics power?
If not just get a used Dell Optiplex 7050 Micro with an i7 7700T, 16 GB RAM, and an SSD for under $200. If you're going to need a graphics card, the Dell XPS 8910 has a PSU capable of accepting 8-pin cards

>>102217817
Post what you think is your optimized list and a budget

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>>102210018

Waiting for 9800x3d

>>102217281
Thanks bro!

>>102218009
Its gonna be yuuuuuughe

>>102218009
why? I doubt you're cpu limited with such a fast cpu

>>102217661
>7800XT
>>102217713
>>102217741
>>102217762
>>102217763
>not anime
Ain't buyin'.

>>102217817
The worst thing to cheap out on is the PSU. Everything else you should really be balancing out based on the overall budget.

>>102218049
>The worst thing to cheap out on is the PSU
This I will never understand. Maybe because it doesn't do bling-bling and people think of it like a boring component

>>102210059
>Samsung ssd tax
Lexar nm790 nigger
But sapphire xtx thx me later.

>>102217490
>>102217557
Sounds like Nvidia is stil lteh better option, thanks

>>102210059
probably could have done better on the SSDs but they're still a good choice (just make sure you get samsung magician and update the firmware once installed)
>96gb of ram but bought AMD GPU.
you do you buddy

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Dowe we have any believable/real leaks of 50XX?

>>102218254
No, only that they're extremely unlikely to show up this year. Likely late January

>>102218254
same perf as last gen + 5% w/ 20-30% energy efficiency gains.

>>102218275
>same perf as last gen
Flagship will definitely be faster than a 4090
Midrange will have its price driven down by RDNA4 and Battlemage
So no

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>>102216971
>>102215767
>>102215645
Should I maybe wait until January when the 5000 series launches and then just build a whole new AM5 system when the prices drop?

>>102218275
they already leaked the TDP and its 20-50 extra watts

>>102218333
>>102218296
dont trust leaks
nvidia isnt trying this gen except for flagship
mid tier cards are shit rejects compared to rdna4 monolith kings

>>102216309
Thank you so much for the tips. I had to go back to work, but as soon as I finish things today I'll try tinkering with it some more!
If I remove my CPU won't I need thermal paste or something to put it back?
>>102216971
Sadly I have no other system to test it.

>Case fan setup takes data from either CPU or motherboard sensors
>CPU runs fairly cool
>GPU runs hot
>A lot of games max out the GPU but not the CPU so case fan speeds barely increase while the GPU gets toasty
What do in this situation?

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>>102218254
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5090-reportedly-targets-600w-rtx-5080-aims-for-400w-with-10-performance-increase-over-rtx-4090

Planning on buying this


https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Yb9Tsh

Rate?

>>102217763
>>102217741
>>102217713
>>102217661
>>102217762
I unironically love Daz models

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>600 motherfucking watts

>>102218463
>4060 Ti 8gb
holy kek
fucking lmao even

>>102218443
Is this Kopite guy legit?

>>102218469
>5090
>14900k
>blow the breakers in burger homes

>>102218296
>Midrange will have its price driven down by RDNA4 and Battlemage
lol

>there will be an nvidia card that uses 2x 12vhpwr cables in your lifetime

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>>102218463
>all that shit and decapitate it with 4060

Is ~1750CAD/1300USD for an mATX build with R5 7600 + RTX 4070 Super about what I should expect? Other general specs being 1TB SSD, 32GB RAM, 750W PSU

>>102218386
Get a Fractal Design Torrent. Max airflow directly to GPU

>>102218443
this shit happened with 30 series and 40 series and the stupid wattages never turned out to be correct

>>102218627
I was just now looking at the Torrent Compact, because I don't want a fucking behemoth but I'm still interested in that PSU on top setup with fans at the bottom

>>102217661
I had the 7850

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Anyone here has a 'Asus TUF Gaming B650M-PLUS WIFI'? Looking forward to get it, but after some research, I found reports about issues with its Wi-Fi drivers and Windows blue screens...

>>102218689
ASUS TUF boards are garbage.

>>102218689
I have the exact same model, no problems here, however I only use the bluetooth. Had no problems with the Wi-Fi when I tried it though.

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>>102218469

>>102218641
It’s a good case if you’re going strictly for airflow and not use AIOs. As long as the GPU fits on the compact and using a double tower air cooler for the CPU it should be good

>>102218576
>>102218481
So top it up with a 16gb 4060ti?

>>102218792
god I love living next to a nuclear power plant so I can play Fall Guys in 4K @ 240 FPS

>>102218792
You can delete this now.

>>102218624
Yeah. Not offensively overpriced for a prebuilt, it's okay

>>102218812
go for a 4070 Ti or Super at least, 4060 Ti is a huge fail anyway due to 128 bit bus.

>>102218796
I have a NH-D15S and just a bunch of 140 and 120mm arctic fans so it's all air
GPU is chunky but dual fan only, so it's short (and weighs nothing compared to previous GPUs I had so there's no sag)
My issue with it is the fact reviewers point out there's next to no room for cable management

>>102218812
4070 Super
If it increases the budget too much, cut down elsewhere

>>102218812
Why are spending so much on a cpu and ddr5 when you aren't getting at least 4070S? Either stick to am4 with 5600x if you want to hobo with 4060 or up your game and get 4070TiS or higher

>>102218848
>>102218848
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>>102218836
Any ideas what i could cut down?

>>102218900
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gnscWt

>>102218834
Yea that sounds like it’ll be a bitch to cable manage it especially if you’re also adding a hard drive. I think it’ll be fine if you have a small PSU like a Seasonic Focus and not the longboi Prime version

>>102217762
>DIAMOND
Muh dick.