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How the fuck can keychron afford to sell the c3 pro? It's $25 and a qmk tkl , at first I thought it was membrane but it's still a full mech keyboard
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>>102323144
I've seen at my local equivalent of wallmart mech keyboard for 10€ and that's in europe with 25% tax. So someone makes those before shipping & tax for what 5€. How is that possible. It has blue switches, backlight and all.
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>>102323144
Imagine how cheap keyboards actually are then. We're getting alu case boards on ali for $50 now. Most companies have been fucking you over and making millions on net income.
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>>102322916
for some reason - and I can't quite put my finger on it - I have a conjecture that OP is an avid GAYMER. Just a thought.
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>>102323144
Do you see why some anons say stuff like ducky and some of keychon's lineup being overpriced as fuck now?

The most expensive part of a keyboard is going to be is it's pcb. Everything else from case to switches are dirt cheap, especially stock Cherrys like blue or brown switches. The only reason aliexpress keyboards are not mandatory buys is because their pcbs are questionable in terms of quality. But if you buy the standalone custom pcbs and wire some switches in you will have a keyboard for as low 100 or even 50 dollars which will have build quality comparable to most custom brands.
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>>102323647
I remember when the TKL alu cases were being sold for around $80 on there a few years ago. It is clear that the demand has lowered the price enough for them operate on cheaper margins like that. Of course this makes you ask if the Chinese can afford to do sell at smaller profit margins how big must the profit margins be for your PREMIUM BRANDS.
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need diamond key caps. should not be too expensive with synthetic diamonds. also the price to do it should fall every year.
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Ortholinear only makes sense with split keyboards, is that true? That's what reddit tells me. That q15 keychron seems enticing though
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>>102322916
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>>102324205
>case is dirt cheap
only at very high MoQ.
>especially stock cherries
I'm sure manufacturers get a better price than you or I when they order in huge quantities but I doubt this is "dirt cheap"
>Keychron is overpriced
You are replying to someone saying Keychron offers a very cheap board, and I'm willing to bet it's not as fully-featured as their $100 offerings
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>>102322916
Is the alice layout a meme?
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>>102324962
Ortho doesn't make sense split or otherwise in the first place anyway since your fingers aren't all the same size.
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>>102325127
>uses layout to mimic split boards
>not actually split
Yes, it's a meme.
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>>102325127
a cool looking meme, but ergonomic benefits are minimal to something like a split. varies from person to person obviously
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>>102325127
Kinda? It is better than most other non-ergonomic keyboards out there but there are still far more ergonomic designs you can go for instead that would do a better job for you long term. The truth is the layout is made more to appeal to anons who are used to the traditional office membrane ergonomic keyboards like the dozen of microsoft 4000 ergo clones out in the wild.

>>102325015
>only at very high MoQ
Not really. You can get cheap individual cases.
>I'm sure manufacturers get a better price than you or I when they order in huge quantities but I doubt this is "dirt cheap"
They defiantly do. But you can still get a shit ton of stock cherrys for under 10 dollars as they are one of the most widely manufactured keyboard switches out there. I have seen 10 cherry switches sold for 1 dollar a set and that is not taking into account wholesale pricing.
>You are replying to someone saying Keychron offers a very cheap board
Yeah and they brought it up because usually Keychron sell far more expensive boards. In terms of features you might be right but there are other cheap keyboards out there which have comparable capabilities.
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>>102325498
then why are numpads so satisfying to use?
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>>102325805
Because you are literally pic rel anon.
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>>102325856
provide a more compelling argument against ortholinear before i spend my money, PLEASE
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>>102325914
If you are going to do it just do it anon. Its your money to burn.
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>126 keys
>Topre
>Made for the aviation industry
>English and mystical Nippon Moonrune keycaps
>ISO
Show me a more Aryan keyboard.
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>>102326122
fuck forgot pic rel
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>>102326147
That's a pretty sick board. Probably costs an arm and a leg, though.
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>>102326147
>0
>00
>000
kek, what a worthless currency
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what is the quietest mkb full sized?

for office and streaming
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>>102326260
Most mkbs with linear switches like cherry reds or blakcs should be quite enough. There are a ton of old office mechanical keyboards out there with them installed which you can find on ebay such as pic rel. Other than that there is Topre, but there are not many normal full sized keyboards and they are not traditional mechanical keyboards. But if you want quiet they are the quietest keyboards on the market which are not membrane.
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> https://wiki.keyboard.gay/

is this website good to use as a guide?
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>>102326928
Its literally pretty gay but serviceable.
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I wanted a Keychron K5 Pro for its low-profile keys but it seems like there isn't many silent switches for them.
Keychron V6 Wired with 3 sets of 35 pieces of Sea Salt Silent switches, is there a better solution for a very silent mechanical ? I need a numpad, a next song button and a volume knob would be nice
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>>102325608
>You can get cheap individual cases.
Not if it's a new mould you can't
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>>102327191
sea salt silents sound good, I haven't used any other silents. If you aren't used to linears it might be worth looking for a silent tactile. Also on epomaker's website they only advertise the sea salt switches, but on their amazon store they sell both the normal sea salts and the sea salt silent, so make sure you get the right ones.
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Where do yall go to buy old/vintage keyboards? I know ebay is an obvious one but I want to expand my horizons (can't do local as there are no e-waste sites that allow for purchasing).
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>>102328554
Deskthority, probably.
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>hyped up for months
>claimed to transform the keyboard landscape
>allegedly sturdy and nice switches
>its open source
>as customisable as you want it due to it being 3d printed
>as cheap as the filament you use
>different filament types can make it multi material
>"endgame"
>never heard of again
>anons still buy keebs instead
What happened /mkg/?
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>>102329558
>forgot again to attach the image
Its over for me
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>>102329568
looks ugly
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>>102329558
>FDM printed switches
Scratchier than cherry switches, and that's saying something.
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>>102323647
>We're getting alu case boards on ali for $50 now
link?
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>>102329568
Is that an oreo holder?
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>>102329730
Yes
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>>102322916
what’s a good long term keyboard that will be used for gaming and regular use? also no batteries in it but the keys have a light in them to
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>>102329744
your answer is logitech k120 until you provide a budget and desired layout. The answer may still be k120
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>>102329744
Get one of the Ducky entry level keyboards
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>>102329744
Keychron C3 pro, $40, I have one and it looks like it'll last at least 10 years, has backlight
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Also, the C3 pro doesn't have a numpad, FYI
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What is the largest macropad I can buy?
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>>102324300
1. Cost of production is just much lower in China for various reasons, including lower cost of living for workers, proximity to other local industries, immunity to American lawsuits over IP/etc., and generally pro-industry policy by their communist government.
2. The 'technology' for cheap customs has been advancing. There have been all kinds of new tricks in board design discovered for reducing CNC time, and no doubt the manufacturers are learning things as well. The cost coming down is not simply a pricing decision, but reflects improvements in industrial efficiency as the hobby matures.
3. These cheap boards are run in very large buys with MoQ way above what any normal group buy runner could afford to gamble on. Misjudging the market for a huge MoQ run could financially ruin someone.
4. Sub-$150 there is often some corner-cutting on finishing, packaging, etc.
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>>102331466
That makes a lot of sense actually
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boomp
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I'm running out of things to say about my keyboards
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>>102333379
Lucy switches? Nice.
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>>102330820
I have a full sized C2 Pro, worth every cent, amazing jewboard
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>>102333782
Yep, they're pretty nice. Tied with gat geckos for best silent linear I've tried so far.
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bump
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Opionion of the logitech mx mechanical? Just ordered one for work, i like the mx master 3 mouse so i figure this keyboard will be pretty good
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I have a $10 keyboard
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>>102333782
NA keyboard vendor here. I was talking to my guy in China and he said LICHICX (Lucy) is ceasing switch production. Stock up while you can.
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>>102338452
Tbf that is a shit model
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>thread approaching page 9 at only 60 replies
This is what happens when almost every response is just buy/use keychron.
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>>102341182
it's the other manufacturers' fault for making such shit keyboards. With Keychron you know what you're getting
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>>102341182
Well, Keychron is just our easy defacto recommendation. Back in the old days it was Leopold.

Their boards aren't top tier, but if someone was using a shitty rubber dome their whole life it would probably be such a huge improvement that they would never bother with anything else again.

Me? I'm waiting for my Type-B to finally arrive so I can build the damn thing. Should be here within the next month or two unless there's another delay (again)
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>>102329568
The Chinks shot him
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>>102329744
Bridge75. Do it.
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>>102323144
>>102323647
Production at small scale is way more expensive.
Companies making cheap switches also take a lot of cost cutting measures making them more likely to chatter and change key feel.
I had those cheap keyboards change feeling like a rubber dome after like 10k presses.

They were too expensive but margins weren't as high as you might think
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>>102333379
are dactyls really the end game?
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>>102342095
They are for me at least. Been using them for a few years now and I have no desire to switch to any other kind of board.
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>>102342129
are you the anon that makes them?
how long does it take to get used to it? How durable is the 3d printed plastic?
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>>102342164
Yea I build them. It's not as daunting of a switch as you might think. When I first switched to an ergodox it took like 1-2 weeks to get back to my normal WPM. The biggest hangup for me was getting used to how the bottom row was no longer shifted over by 0.5u. Going from an ergodox to a dactyl took basically no time at all. Right now I'm faster than I ever was with a row staggered board.
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got my 'mystery switches' from Cannonkeys, 6x premium and 6x budget. I asked in the order notes if they could err on the side of variety with my ideal mix being 2+2+2, and that's exactly what they did so that was cool of them. One looks like maybe box whites but otherwise I have no idea what any of these are.

Are they all memeshit? Are some good actually? I'm gonna find out. Which should I build first?
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>>102343057
umm light blue on the right middle.
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>>102343057
ok I checked and all six are linears. fml

(although I don't hate linears)
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>>102343235
actually now that I think about it I already have enough tactiles to know what I do and don't like, so more tactiles wouldn't have been a good thing anyway. Linears are probably much better to round out my options
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Are clackies for incels and forever alone?
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>>102343057
checking their website, I think these are:
- JWK Mauve
- Tecsee Sunny Side Up
- WS Aurora Clear
- FLCMMK Ice Mint (Kailh)
- Korbs by Tiny (Durock)
- WS Mizu Aurora
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>>102322916
Still one of the best mechs out there
Why do you spend so much money on new shit anon?
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Currently using an HHKB pro classic, but my inability to learn proper touch typing + forearm fatigue make me want to get a split keyboard setup. Please give me advice on buying an ergo split keyboard, thanks.
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>>102343641
Wrong.
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>>102343942
PS I don't know shit about keyboards, my interest for aesthetic is moderate, and I bought the HHKB because I like products designed and manufactured by autistic Japanese dudes who care about what they build.
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>>102343942
>my inability to learn proper touch typing
...thats a thing people struggle with? I am an autist who cant reach 50 wpm without looking but at standard pace I can still touch type. Its not even something I practiced it was something I was oblivious to for years until I came across the subject and realised it was something I did all the time. What do you consider to be "proper touch typing"?
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When will amazon start selling choc nocturnal/twilight? Those fuckimg keeb shops in germany and netherlands dont sell with VAT invoice. I need silent switches but I also need a vat invoice
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>>102344061
> What do you consider to be "proper touch typing"?
Having a proper "resting" position that results in optimal fingering (like keeping the index fingers on "F" and "J", instead of left on "Shift S D F Space" and right on "; ' Return Fn"). I rarely look down at my keys to orientate myself, but I suspect my fingering to be subpar, which affects my speed and my precision.
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>>102341672
I got one and it's pretty great, you can probably build something better for the price but it's arguably the best foam-packed pre-built out there
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>>102343547
loool ws mizu aurora is literally just an aurora clear recolor, they recolored it to match a themed keycap set. so two of the switches they sent you are the same

the good news is you have enough to do a full-size
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>>102322916
Whoever told me to get a Bridge75 2 weeks ago... thank you
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>>102346315
Planning to switch out the linears it comes stock with for Gateron Oil Kings
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>>102346325
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>>102346315
looks nice. very reserved look to it.
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>>102333379
you should try make a more compact one with choc switches. curious how that would look.
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>>102346359
Would require not only changing the switchplate, but the PCBs too. Not really worth the effort for a board that isn't "portable" in the first place.
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>>102346374
some people enjoy the shorter travel of keys, smaller hands, etc.

i'm not interested directly, just curious how it would look compared to a normal dactyl. and if you have downtime while having the tools, you'd be the first to create it.

you don't need new pcbs for a 'test' though.
the old fashioned way works.
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>>102346424
I'm saying it's not a trivial amount of effort to modify the board for choc switches (even ignoring the PCB side). Not something I'm gonna do a whim. Closest you're gonna see to that is a glove80.
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>>102326122
>>102326147
Which keyboard is this?
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I tried split keyboard by plugging two keyboards in...pretty weird feeling desu but there is some releif in having my shoulders more open. posture seems better.
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>>102346635
I do it for the posture. I haven't had any hands issues, but might go the ortho route ifn the future if I can try one first.
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suggest me a 65% wireless keyboard for typing purposes. rgb eww, but I need it for backlighting. also knob would be a pretty nice addition too. prebuilt please. no diy shit
currently using a ducky one2 sf.
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>>102322916
My new corsair keyboard looked like that after just 2 months of use.
Now there's only a few keys left that has a readable letter.
Never buying corsair again.
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>>102347390
My K70 also looked like that. Never buy corsair.
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>>102347441
Got any good recommendations for max 200 dollar with similar layout and function as K70?
RGB lights not wanted or needed, but its fine if they can be turned off.
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What you're looking for is a full size keyboard with multimedia keys and a volume knob or wheel. If you ignore multimedia and volume, there's tons. I'm actually on the hunt for one right now for my mom.
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>>102347476
>>102347516
Sorry, it's late and I didn't quote, oops.
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>>102347516
I use the media keys, volume knob and mute key regularly though, I find them rather useful.
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>>102347575
I used to but I replaced the knob and mute with a beacn mix create when I got rid of my k70.
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>>102347603
>beacn mix create
Just looked at that, that's some crazy overkill unless you are a big time streamer.
Massive waste of money.
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>>102347708
There's much cheaper alternatives elsewhere such as one with a big knob and 3-6 buttons. I agree although it's convenient but definitely not something I'd ever recommend.
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a decent keyboard is such a nice thing
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>>102322916
It’s a keyboard, who cares
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>>102350161
Glossy
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>>102346616
Topre JDL. You can find a few that pop up from time to time on ebay.
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New keycaps arriving today

not sure if I'll bother installing them, I've still got an unopened set of keycaps I got 3-4 months ago.

I guess this is what happens when you buy into group buys you then forget about.
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>>102351464
Rotate your keycaps every season.
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>>102351399
There's beige one up on ebay right now for $399.00 USD.
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>>102351533
but then it'll take even LONGER before they get shiny and worn.
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>>102351547
Good! Also, you'll get to see something different every season. Or if you have more than 4 keycap sets that you like, swap them out every time you clean your keycaps. I'm assuming you clean your keyboard more than 4 times a year.
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>>102351573
With today's set coming in i'll have 4 complete sets, 2 of them SA ABS, 2 of them MT3 PBT.

And at the moment I'm only cleaning my board about twice a year but that's cause I've been lazy.

I'm getting low on spare switches, only about a dozen left so I'll probably buy a new set of switches and spend some time swapping out switches, keycaps, and do a deep clean of the board at that time.
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>>102351619
What kind of switches are you thinking of getting? I've been considering these. Also which keyboard do you have? https://milktooth.com/products/switches/silent-bluish-white
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>>102351643
I'm using 68g Boba U4T, thinking about getting the new 63.5g Boba U4T V2.

I have an old Drop CTRL keyboard (from like 2019?). I put foam in it and upgraded to the V2 PCB about a year ago.
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>>102351694
I have a full sized GMMK. I grabbed it on a black friday sale and don't really like it but I'll replace it eventually.
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>>102351737
Had the GMMK Pro released 2 years earlier I probably would've got that.
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Akko V3 Yellow Cream Switch
or
Gateron Milky Yellow
Which one should (you)r's truly pick?
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>>102322916
I have a microsoft confort curve 2000, is a cheap mechanical keyboard a big upgrade?
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>>102351867
depends entirely on your preferences

some people really enjoy a mechanical keyboard feel, some people don't give a single fuck either way, some people LOVE mushy rubber dome keyboards.

No one is right or wrong, it's all preference.
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>>102351821
I don't know about the pro but a review site says this one has ~21 ms of latency.
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>>102351851
You can buy sets of 10 for a few dollars each and test the feel of them.
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>>102351546
You can finder cheaper ones here and there. I got mine for around $200 which is on par with most Topre keyboards
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How the fuck are you supposed to get your hands on a Keychron Q6 barebone? They're sold out everywhere, the only ones that aren't have some weird colored body.
>just wait lmao
I've been waiting 3 months.
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>>102352560
Just get the fully assembled one and throw out the shit you dont need/want.
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>>102352594
>Q6 Pro and Max are wireless (yuck)
>normal Q6 doesn't have ISO layout
Even if I did, the right stuff is still not in stock. Kill me.
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all roads lead back to ceruleans for me
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>>102354501
just routes 4, 5, 9 and 24
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>Get into collecting years ago
>Got a Model M and Beamspring but no F
>Find one on ebay
>nice
>Its the rare bigfoot variant
>NICE
>Buy it for cheap
>It arrives and feels nice to type on while its big bezel acts like a palm rest
>Look for converters
>There is none
>Wtf?
>Turns out of all the model Fs out there the bigfoot is the only one which is not compatible
>Requires a custom soarer's converter
>Have no aptitude with microcontrollers
>Put it off and leave on my shelf collecting dust
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Pulled the trigger last minute on a Keychron K2 HE, will be my first Keychron assuming I actually get one. Current keeb's a split 65XT Quefrency using Durock Shrimps, I enjoy using it but I might change the switches. Previous board was a Ducky One 2 mini with Kailh Box Whites that I really liked but ended up needing more than a 60%, and before that an entry Corsair k70 100% that I think had mx cherry reds. I didnt care for it.
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>>102356616
Should of got a ortholinear split
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>>102356616
looks cool. I hope you get it.
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Thinking of getting new domes for an old topre board. What are the aftermarket replacement domes like and which are the best to buy? I am an Neanderthal that likes my switches tactile and as loud as possible which I doubt any dome can provide the latter but I am hoping they can provide the former. I think the switches are short throw but I don't think that will effect dome choice.
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>>102356616
better looking than most keychrons, neat
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>>102357292
Look into BKE domes. They come in a number of different weights/tactilities.
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Does anyone know the default backlight color of the Cherry MX Board 3.0S? It looks like the configuration software only works on Windows, but I want to use it on Linux. Is there a better option for a Linux usage? I just want a full size backlit keyboard for office/programming use on Linux. Preferably around $100 and not with Chinese keyloggers.
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>>102357338
Thanks anon.
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>broken keyboard
>"as seen"
>"I cannot guarantee the working condition if this unit as can’t test it."
>$1250 plus postage please
Why in the actual fuck is this being listed for more than a grand? It has been listed since October of last year, has he not got the message?
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>>102356780
You cannot get more memey even if you tried
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buuuummmmpppp
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>>102354544
kek
>>102358751
That guy must have seen some IBM keyboards for sale and got greedy. "I know what I have!" haha
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>>102359434
I hope a pajeet rapes your daughter right before her college graduation
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>>102358751
>Yes I expect 1000 dollars. No I cannot be bothered to check whether it works or not, even though this knowledge could make a 1000 dollar sale. Yes of course I am being honest
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>>102360482
>college graduation
Ha! He thinks I am North American.
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>>102360490
I am tempted to offer him three fitty, but I am not even sure if its worth that many 100s in questionable condition
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>>102360502
Then I hope a pajeet breaks into your house and fucks your pregnant dog/goat leading to her having a miscarriage. No food for you third worldie
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>>102360668
You can fantasise about pajeet rape all you want but it wont stop ortho split being a ridiculous meme. Have a good day anon.
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Assembled my first keyboard today and the Home key doesn't work. What would be the most likely issue?
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>>102361399
bent pin
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>>102361431
It looked fine, and I swapped switches to be sure, still dead.
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I am once again asking if there are any shine-through hiragana-only keycaps on the market

Last time anons suggested Krome Keycaps could possibly do a custom run but they never got back to me :(
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>>102361446
hmm.. the next most common problem would be that the firmware is set up for that button to do something else, did you check the key map with via or vial or whatever?
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>>102361483
It's a lemokey q1. I used their launcher, updated the firmware and tested it there. It's mapped fine, but no output.
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>>102361453
Only one I know of his the keycap set off of a Akko 5108S Macaw Hiragana. But even then they are not Hiragana only.
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>>102361569
that doesn't sound good, that sounds like send-it-back type stuff
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>>102361659
Hmm, can't tell if the legends are actually shine-through on that one or if it just looks like it on the product page, thanks anyway though

I don't like how busy roman+hiragana keyboards look visually, and who needs the roman legends anyway? Surprised I'm the only weeb that thinks it would look cool
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After 7 years my MasterKeys Pro S has started to experience some issues so I'm looking to replace it. Unfortunately it has been discontinued and coolermaster doesn't have a replacement model.

Anything out there today that matches it in size / aesthetic? It has the exact key layout I like, no numpad and the arrow keys / home / end keys aren't cramped together in an awkward position, and there is no massive bezel around it with a gaudy logo / over the top design. Only thing I missed on it was a context menu key but I just remapped the second windows key & FN key since they are useless to me. Blue switches of course
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>>102361878
It's very common so you're in luck. Look for an 80% / tenkeyless. Just double check that they didn't move any keys and you'll be fine. I'd recommend getting one that's hot swappable.
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>>102362032
something like this?
https://www.wasdkeyboards.com/wasd-v3-hotswap-87-key-doubleshot-pbt-black-slate-mechanical-keyboard.html
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What is the best low profile TKL?
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>>102322916
Are these vendor lists okay?
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/collections/tkl-keyboards
https://wiki.keyboard.gay/VENDORS.html
https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/
>>102362071
Pretty much, yeah. Shop around a bit.
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a fucking leaf here. who do I buy keybaords from who won't charge me 50% duty + $50 shipping?
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>>102362240
The second and third link of >>102362219 has Canadian vendors.
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>>102322916
Bruh can someone reccomend me a sub $100 white keyboard. Just needs to be built well wired only is ok, no rgb is ok smaller the better.
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>>102362307
keychron k2pro in white bruh, is the best I can do bruh, without more info bruh.
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>>102322916
Looking to buy a budget 75% keyboard frame that is compatible with gazzew boba u4 switches.

Any new recs or is the budget recs still nt75/ik75
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>>102343942
>but my inability to learn proper touch typing
Try Dvorak or colemak.
The 'standard' touch typing doesn't make sense on a qwerty layout which is why you'll revert to your typing habits.
It is a bit of a time investment though since you need to rewire your brain and build up some finger muscles eg. Right pinky for Dvorak for pressing L.
That being said I find typing satisfying now
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>>102362081
Bump
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the hhkb is the most beautiful keyboard ever, i cant use anything else
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>>102343942
>but my inability to learn proper touch typing + forearm fatigue make me want to get a split keyboard setup.
You could try it but also get wrist rests. Also try the difference of the keyboard being elevated with feet and not.
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>>102322916
What's the current choice for linear switches? Are gateron inks still the king?
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>>102365051
Not only that, but layout just makes sense. Although would be nice to have keypad as well
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>>102365491
I mean numpad
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>>102361671
damn
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>>102366313
Best send it back asap
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>>102351464
My keycaps didn't show up until 8pm and today I'm in the office (I work from home M-Th). Guess they'll get unboxed tonight or tomorrow.
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>>102362964
Bump my knee grows

I remember you fags suggesting it to me 2 years ago because it is similar to the rubber dome feel of a thinkpad laptop keyboard. Which 75 frame should I buy and also what keycap profile? Are the recs still the same in terms of the frame
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>>102352945
>lies
https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-q6-qmk-custom-mechanical-keyboard-iso-layout-collection?variant=40293246238809
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>>102365479
Yeah they still are a thing, but they have gone out fashion for the most part. For some reason standard reds just cant be topped or defacto replaced like blues or browns.
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WHY THE FUCK IS EPBT SIMPLEJA ALL SOLD OUT THIS SOME BS. ANYONE KNOW WHERE I CAN GET KEYCAPS WITH PROPER JIS LAYOUT?
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>>102322916
Bought a DURGOD Taurus K320 TKL w/ MX Browns for £38 new.
I wasn't expecting much, but it's pretty good.
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>>102368199
Ok fine you got me, I missed it among the slew of variants.

Still paying USD205 for ABS plastic doesn't feel right.
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>>102369357
You're paying extra for switches as well. $30 for 100 gat switches and oem keycaps isn't too crazy.
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What are most TASTEFUL keycaps I can get my hands on? Ideally some muted matte colours, grey, beige, brass, properly luxurious feel.
>>102326147
This, this is a good example.

Oh my God, it even has secondary Japanese characters
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>>102370436
How much you wanna spend?
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>>102370527
No upper limit (within reason for PBT keycaps, so not $5/cap metal ones or something).
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>>102358751

it sucks when someone has like a great condition alps keyboard and they do this bs and then it just sits on ebay indefinitely.
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>>102361878

honestly if youre willing to give up backlighting you can just buy a used filco majestouch for like $40 on ebay. its a higher quality keyboard but the keycaps are very cheap.
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>>102370436
You're in luck anon. Just need some topre/mx adapters and you are set.
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>>102367609

the inky75 is on sale for $69 right now just buy that and swap switches
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What keycaps or colorway would you get with this board? Open to spending up to $100.
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>>102370839
I'd try these ones in "cream" and pray it actually matches as close as it seems it could
https://clickclack.io/collections/in-stock-keycaps-1/products/jtk-hsa-profile-keycaps

But a safer bet would be to go for something with contrast, obviously. This might look cute:
https://www.keykobo.com/products/key-kobo-helleborus
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>>102370839
what other colors are there in your setup? monitor, cable, mouse, deskmat or mousepad, etc
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>>102370872
Why the fuck didn't they use renders. I don't wanna see some old man's pubes on keyboard pics.
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>>102370872
Might go with cream I guess. The WoB isn't too bad either as a contrast.
>>102370898
Deskmat, mouse, sky blue. Monitor black. Cable, desk, white. I don't really care about setup matching desu considering how easy I mess around with it depending on my mood.
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>>102370912
I hate renders, real production colors can differ from renders.
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>>102370839
https://novelkeys.com/collections/keycaps/products/gmk-cyl-black-snail-keycaps
GMK black snail, you can get base kit for under $100, and it's beige-on-black so nice contrast but ties into the board's color
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Is there some specific name for the style of keys where all the rows are uniform height and orientation and do not protrude too much from the body of the keyboard?
I'm looking for a replacement for my decade+ old Sidewinder X4 that's starting to bind up when typing and it's not looking good.
Seems like the most common type of keys these days is very tall, very "separate" from each other (don't know how else to put it), and with different rows having different orientations for some godforsaken reason.
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>>102371204
Those kinds of profiles are called non-sculpted, and options do exist.
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>>102371232
"Uniform" is the more common name.
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>>102371204
Unless you want a low profile board, kam, dsa, or xda might be your preference.
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>>102371322
DSA looks the closest to what I'm used to.
Any fullsize board recommendations?
Or do I need to buy the board and the keys separately, and swap them in?
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>>102371505
I think keychron and monsgeek have several full size boards based on plastic and aluminum. You can get it barebone or full built and just replace keycaps, all up to you. You can also just buy a prebuilt board like a leopold and just replace the keycaps as well.
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>>102367383
>>102351464
Opened up both sets and put them in a storage tray for when i get new switches and do a full deep clean and swap caps then.
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Are cherry mx2a switches on ali legit? Slightly more expensive than regular sites, but no shipping cost makes it cheaper. Can't tell if it's actual mx2a though or older stock like hg.
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>>102371990
Ali is a marketplace, it depends on the store. I've never been scammed on Aliexpress yet but it could happen.
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/mkg/ doesn't want you to know you can have a "split" keyboard by simply plugging in two regular keyboards
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>>102372215
we don't care if you know, we just think it's retarded.
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>>102372215
>split meme board $500+tip
>two k120s $20
big split won't like this
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>>102372215
Or better yet two cheap square macropads for extra ortholinear autism. But anons prefer to just pay $100+ instead cuz muh customs like >>102372253
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>>102371623
Why do your keycaps have ASCII control character legends?
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>>102371990
Why do you want Cherry mx2a switches? They're garbo
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>>102372431
looks neat
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>>102372431
Because anon is unfathomably based

Also what are the loudest MX switch out there that I can get? Noise is my only concern, everything else is secondary.
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>>102372809
Just put a sewing machine in your PC case.
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>>102372809
https://youtu.be/WenPtqVGL_U?t=6
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>>102372830
How does one...achieve such power?
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>>102339395
They're still going to make them, just in different colors under different names. There are multiple lichicx silent linears on the market right now, and all are pretty much the same. Lucy V2, Gentle V2, Yoghurt, the one RNDKB sells as Lucy V3 even though it's a different switch and probably even more on the Chinese market.
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>>102372903
Not MX switch, but for MX switch you'd probably need to go custom.

https://www.modelfkeyboards.com/product/beam-spring-keyboard/

the solenoid upgrade is like $60-70 over the regular price.
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>>102373008
>modelfkeyboards dot com
Thank you but I think I will pass
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>>102372830
it should ring a bell when he hits enter.
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>>102371623
They're a bit too similar for me.
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>>102373778
My other keycap sets are pretty different, so getting two kinda similar ones wasn't something I really cared about.
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>>102373778
>>102374614
Final set
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>>102374630
>weebshit
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Keychron K5 pro with hot-swappable gateron red switches sounds quieter than expected, pleasantly surprised by it as my first mechanical
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>>102375128
>low profile
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>>102371044
I'm so disappointed in black snail after all these months. Why translucent keycaps. Could have used those spots for reverse colors. Deskmat was instant preorder tho.
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>>102375154
yeah years of dell/microsoft office membrane keyboards made me scared to try a real size keyboard
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>>102375128
>red switches sounds quieter than expected
Linear reds have always been pretty quiet all things considered. Only things quieter are some custom meme switches which have questionable feel.

>>102375182
>yeah years of dell/microsoft office membrane keyboards made me scared to try a real size keyboard
I am surprised you didn't go for a Topre if you are that membrane inclined. They are even some of the quietest boards available. Honestly though there is no real discernible difference between low profile and standard profile keycaps. Your hands are just positioned a half inch higher which is not that significant and key travel time is not really noticeable unless you want a thinkpad instant tactile bottom out.
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>>102375547
I was not aware of topree and their quietness, but even then I would have never spent 300usd for my first mechanical. I will keep that in mind if I become a freak like you guys, thank you
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>>102375794
No problem. Honestly though Topre is largely overpriced and you would better suited to buy something else if your budget ever reaches $300+
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>>102375181
It's accents, I wouldn't have used them anyway.
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just cleaned my keyboard with 10 years of accumulated gamer gunk. it was like 50/50 hair and dead skin. you couldn't actually see the base of it with the height of the layer of it all. I didn't have any compressed air so I blew on it after removing the main chunks and it choked me out
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>decide to frankenswitch my new UHMWPE housing linears with some gateron jupiter brown stems, that'll be cool
>try one, find a good spring weight (67g 14mm), feels good
>do 14 more
>1 in 4 stems can't be used because it's too tight in the top housing
>it's definitely the gateron brown's loose tolerances causing the problem, not the housings
>therefore I won't have enough stems to do a full set of switches

at this point in the hobby what's another half hour of wasted effort? I already have so many
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>>102376250
>at this point in the hobby what's another half hour of wasted effort? I already have so many
Re-lubbing Alps switches then finding out they are too worn out and then they get gunky again after a few months of use
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I have nothing to contribute to this thread except for my topre. I like how it looks.
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>>102376402
topre enjoyers are fine.
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>>102366832
I sent them an email. It's Friday though, hopefully they get back with me by Monday at least. Still a great keyboard as is.
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>>102376709
Good luck, Anon!
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>>102372215
>frame work laptop
>trackball
>"split" keyboard

every fucking meme in the book
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>>102372215
>>102377174
The only thing "okay" in is the trackball. But it's definitely memes.
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>>102322916
Imagine not already having a brain-computer interface and still relying on mechanicals
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>>102377654
>Imagine not already having a brain-computer interface that allows you to simulate the sensation of typing on a mechanical keyboard like an air guitar
You're not going to make it in hyperspace anon.
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>>102377174
not to mention two deskmats
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>>102370436
shenpo beige
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>>102377654
>>102378058
>they don't know about my spiritual computing setup that allows me to communicate with the astral realm.
linears are demonic inventions btw.
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my old keyboard broke so I went for a mechanical keyboars to see what it's all about. Also ultrapoor so I got some $17 mystery meat Acer keyboard with some sort of brown switch and configurable (non-RGB) rainbow led. It's pretty cool. I look forward to getting a job and acquiring a keychron board some time in the next decade.
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>>102376402

i tried the newer more normal looking realforces and theyre not as good as the old ones. i was disappointed.
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>>102378867
White keyboards are based. Good luck with the job, anon! Do your best!
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>>102378867
not bad for the price. used/refurbished keyboards are underrated. Im trying to figure out wha tmodel that is
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>>102379098
He might find a label on the bottom.
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>>102379098
>>102379187
it's an Acer OKW212, whatever that means, I can't find any info on it.
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>>102379374
nice. I could only find a picture of it on a vietnamese site.
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>>102322916

I fell for the mechanical keyboard meme.

I picked up a modern Logitech G613 keyboard from a thrift store. The damn thing double types on multiple letters which apparently needs cleaning or key swap to fix. Is noisy as shit. And not better than my old high end dome keyboard from 2003, which still works fine under heavy use, same with all the shitty 10-15 year old keyboards at my work. Yet I hear from mechfags these keyboards are more durable?
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>>102379857
nobody who tells you to buy a mechanical keyboard tells anyone to buy logishit
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>>102379857
>Logitech
Lol
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>>102379857
Bait used to be believable
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I know it's not a mechanical keyboard but I'm looking for a download link to the Corsair K57 wireless keyboard firmware, anyone know where I can download it? I need the .bin file not iCue trash btw
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>>102381012
AFAIK there is no way to flash it without icue, and if the board isn't being detected by icue you need to go into the registry and delete a corsair folder, uninstall icue, restart your PC, reinstall icue, then update the firmware from icue.

If that doesn't work you're probably fucked.
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>>102381052
Yes there is a way, you can boot it in "CRP Disabld" state and have access to the firmware.bin file, I need to update it this way because I have an issue with both SHIFT keys not capitalizing characters despite the keys being detected, flashing the firmware from iCue doesn't solve the issue, I need to factory reset it with the firmware but Corsair customer service are being useless pieces of shit asking me dumb questions like "is the keyboard in the right layout" and dumb stuff like this.
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>>102381168
Unironically make a thread on the corsair subreddits, one of the mods there often tells ppl to DM him for firmware as corsair support is useless.
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>>102370436
cerakey ceramic or laquer.
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I thought my k70 was bad but this sounds ridiculous
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>>102381326
Ugh I hate plebbit, alright gonna try that thanks anon
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Bump
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I am looking for a fancy usb-c cable and came across these. whats the point of these aviator connectors. they look like they will only scratch up my table over time. they look nice I give them that but I dont see any practical reason to get one over a regular usb-c cable.
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>>102382938
Aesthetics only.
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What's the cheapest GMK set out there I can buy? Kinda miffed I missed out on the $50 GMK Fuji from CannonKeys a few months back.
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>>102382938
Like other anon said, just aesthetic. Keyboards usually don't move much so I doubt scratching will be a big issue.
On that note, people go for Lemo or YC8 straight cables now. Less bulky but still aesthetic.
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how is DURGOD as a brand? Never heard of them but I was looking at the Taurus K320, like the form factor and no frills nature of it. I want something that won't break on my in 5+ years
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okey I gave up and just ordered this. lets hope it doesnt add up being a meme. its my first time buying on of these retarded looking meme cables.
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>>102384385
as long as your expectations are that it's a regular cable it just looks kinda neat, then you'll be fine.
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>>102342095
Depends on a lot on your idealistic interpretation of your workflow. My perfect setup would be medical recliner+vr helmet+dynamic 3d tiler with support of floating windows, so dactyl kinda fits the bill, but since you can remix your dactyl in every direction possible, i don't know WHICH ONE EXACTLY would be my endgame. So far i've settled on 4x6, but has not figured out the rest of it.

>>102322916
Somewhat related questions for ZMK/Zephyr gurus:

1. I wanted to mess around with Zephyr and i've got nrf52840 supermini (nice nano v2 equivalent as people write) and i couldn't find exact board model in Zephyr documentation to build sample firmware for it,

west build -b <BOARD>
what should i put into <BOARD> section?

2. Where can i read more about dongle mode for ZMK?
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why would a keyboard that supports n-key rollover have a toggle switch to make it 6-key rollover? Latency advantage?
legacy for old computers?
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>>102382938
>whats the point of these aviator connectors.
There isn't one.
>they look like they will only scratch up my table over time.
A valid concern.
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>>102385196
legacy
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Why is it so hard to find a keyboard with a PS/2 connector?
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>>102379070
Thats sad. I would expect years of basically making the same keyboards for realforce to make innovations.
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>>102375128
Got a great deal on a used normal sized keys, will have to get used to it but I plan on only use it for gaming
>>102375547
the brown gateron are pretty noisy but I might try out some silent switches someday whilst keeping in mind the probability of a questionable feel
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>>102386890
Deprecated connector.
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>>102385196
legacy and battery life for wireless
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my ttc silent frozen switches came in the mail today and wow they feel amazing. a little bit of a scratchy sound on the stock versions (its a silent so expected?) but perhaps a bit of lubing would help? too lazy for that. overall, great silent linears
also got mine on milktooth which seems to be cheaper than other sites if anyone was interested
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>>102387800
Fuck you USBcuck.
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>>102388562
Too bad, it's the truth. Inb4
>muh interrupt!
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>got into mech boards
>tried multiple switches
>hmm, i like linear ones
>hmm, lubed ones are smoother and feel nice
>lets check those low profile ones
>huh, i like shorter travel distance
>let's check ones with lighter springs
>even better
>some years and bunch of dollaridoos later i effectively use mechanical equivalent of a chicklet keyboard
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>>102388764
at least you've found what you like
at the end of the day it's all personal preference anyway.
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Sniped a WKL Olive Freebird from one of those shipping forwarders that sell abandoned shit for mad cheap.

FeelsGoodMan
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>>102322916
I'm assembling my first keyboard ever and should the shiny side of the poron foam face down on the pcb or should it face up toward the POM?
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>>102389298(Me)
I also fucked up and installed the stabilizers the wrong way, fuck how screwed am I?
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>>102389298 (Me)
>>102389468 (Me)
Figured it out nevermind, lol.
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>>102389008
>no OS key
>no menu key
literally unusable
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The group buy struggle
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>>102384385
Why'd you buy such an ugly cable??
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>>102389705
My GMK Nord GB struggle
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>>102388764
is it nuphy or lofree ?
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>>102389977
kek
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>>102390144
i fucking bought it. hate myself for doing the group buy meme
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>>102390209
My only group buys were 2nd round buys so I at least knew what I was getting into more or less.
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>>102390144
At least those chinese fuckers from zfrontier got it. Meanwhile, MKUltra owner ran away from usa and chilling in vietnam or something rn.
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>>102389008
based, put some wob on it
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in desoldering hell rn
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>>102389298
the shiny side of the poron foam should face the bottom of your garbage bin
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I got a second hand NuPhy Air75 with Gateron Red switches but I keep misclicking the keys. I'm planning to get tactile switches and I found somebody selling Brown switches for 45 CAD. Should I go for it or should I pay more for Wisteria switches?
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>>102390864
35 CAD*
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>>102390864
Listen to switch sound comparisons, and then to your heart.
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Just bought MX2A Black and 70g springs off ali. Kinda excited.
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>>102390864
Do you know whether you like browns? They're my favorite (and I've tried most "kinds" of mx switch) but many people hate them. They also have a lot of scratch and spring ping if you don't do some work on them.

Durock light tactiles are very similar to a cherry brown but lubed stock and no spring ping (that I've noticed), might be a better option if they're still sold anywhere. MX2A browns might solve some of those problems but I don't know.
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>>102390833
I'm putting Voynich on it
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>>102391088
Cringe. Voynich ms is a forgery
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>>102392056
>>102392056
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