>>102358619
Are Thermalright PSUs trusted, bros?

to what should I connect my antistatic wrist band

Do I want to build a PC that gives me the image of a person who hate Steam, hate Valve, hate PC gaming, hate Gabe Newell and the most anti-pc gamer laptop of all

basically I want to build a PC that is totally useless for gaming

>>102358672
Scrotum works

is there an adapter that plugs into a single USB port on the motherboard, and splits into two ports for the front?
I only have three on my motherboard, but the case I want has four usb ports
or is that just not how computers work?

>>102358679
You don't want a pc at that point just get a mac

>>102358724
Which Apple Mac model is the most ideal for the person who hates Steam and hates PC gamign?

OLED LYFE DAWG

>>102358679
https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/
You can even spit on buildniggers by buying a laptop

>>102358715
USB hubs yo

is LG UltraGear 27GR83Q-B any good? people say it's decent for it's price
how is it compared to gigabyte m27q (not the X version)

>>102358808
I know they exist, but I want a cable for this specific job of making sure all the front ports work

>>102358806
Reasons why a MacBook Pro would be the ideal laptop for me?

What activities should I do with the MacBook Pro to give the image that I am a person who hates PC gaming?

FSR3 is not bad. People are just using it wrong. It needs CAS/Lumasharpen and a non 1080p monitor.

>>102358830
>What activities should I do with the MacBook Pro to give the image that I am a person who hates PC gaming?
I would start by speccing it out as much as possible. This really shows that you disregard cost, some poor thirdie is crying into his AMD card at the thought. Then after that you can maybe watch videos or shit post on here. I would definitely spam the receipt in this thread constantly though.

>>102358856
>a non 1080p monitor.
[impossible challenge]

>>102358830
>What activities should I do with the MacBook Pro to give the image that I am a person who hates PC gaming?
Write articles for Kotaku and Polygon about how PC gaming is a misogynist boys club that hurt your tr*ns feefees

does a 1/7 anime figure fit inside a y60 case?

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>>102358856
The sharpening is why it's so shit in the first place

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>>102358982
>Shittier and slower
absolute state of amd software

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>>102358856
>>102358982 (me)
There is hope for FSR. PlayStation Super Resolution (PSSR) will have a machine learning component, and I can't imagine that it won't bleed over into FSR. But probably only RX 7000 and above will be able to use the high quality, most performant version of it, much like Intel XeSS dp4a and XMX pathways. It's possible that RX 8000 is even viable against Nvidia if it's priced right and RTG can get FSR4 released soon without major flaws. This hope is a good enough reason not to buy RX 6000 based products at this point

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>>102358619
This pic the 1650 why is the memory clock so much lower than the core clock? In every other card the memory clock is higher or parity

>>102358672
case or case screw with psu installed in the case and plugged into the wall but with the switch on the off position (so it's connected to the house's ground but not supplying power to components)

>>102358829
i think there's some fundamental misunderstanding of how computers work here

you want to plug something into your motherboard internally that gives you more usb slots? Get an expansion card

plug externally and get more usb ports? USB hub, hopefully powered

the amount of USB ports on the case is totally unrelated, the case headers are pretty much universal and work with every motherboard

>i7 14700k
>64gb ram
>5tb ssd storage
>4070 super
how much can i get for this realistically?

4k gaming, flexible budget ~5k AUD for the build itself, a grand or so for a decent monitor to suit (Aussie 3rd world prices lol), more concerned about long-term viability for future upgrades (6-8yrs) than price itself
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/6QDdpB
asked this a couple days ago and none of you cunts abused me, so am I on the right track?

is it bad if i have 3 intake fans on the front
3 exhaust fans on top (aio radiator) and 1 exhaust fan in the back?
should i add 1 or 2 intake fans at the bottom of the case?

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Finally a game on PC thats not last gen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBqpFlA_4Is

>>102359574
No. You're good.
Your three intake fans would bring more air IN because your exhaust fans at the top have the radiator to block air from going OUT. This creates a positive air pressure in the case which is a good thing. Sure, adding more intake fans could be good but it's not needed.

>>102359589
That game is last gen as fuck
The fuck are you talking about

>>102359668
don't bully squeenix sir

>save up $3000 for a pc, my first pc build
>family emergency pops up and parents come to me asking for money, they need exactly $3000
>all those years of saving for a pc now gone
Any good prebuilds I can buy for like, $400 or something? Maybe I can stretch it to $500.

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>squeenix japs with little PC experience can get FSR 3.1 in their game
>Remnant 2 and First Descendant devs can throw in FSR 3.1 on a whim
>big well funded releases like Wukong and SW Outlaws, sponsered by Nvidia, can only manage 3.0
>PC-centric CDPR just drops the most scuffed FSR 3.0 implementation we've ever seen into Cyberpunk, heavily sponsored by Nv, after months of perfectly functional implementations and after AMD released 3.1

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>>102358619
>1080p: RTX 3060 12 GB; budget: RX 6600; ultra budget: used RTX 2060 Super
>1440p: RTX 4070 Super; budget: RX 7700 XT
>2160p: RTX 4080 Super (at MSRP); budget: RTX 4070 Ti Super
>Amateur production: RTX 3060 12GB, RTX 4060 Ti 16GB, used RTX 3090, RTX 4090

where does a 3080ti sit between all of these? for gaming

>>102359668
>no ps4 version
>no dx11 version
>dx12 ultimate
>directstorage
>graphics look better than ff15
how is this last gen

What should I watch on my 4k monitor? So far I’ve just been watching stock footage on YouTube because it looks pretty good

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Thanks /pcbg/
(:

>>102359898
Game is ugly as fuck
and it stutters

>>102359890
rtx 4070 super

>>102359890
Slightly below the 4070 Super
Doesn't have DLSS Frame Gen though
Also uses a butt ton of power

>>102359370
Memory Clock of the GTX 1650 is 1500MHz
Dunno maybe somebody fucked up on the website

So whats the move for Raptor Lake chips? Do I just wait for the chip to melt or w/e and just hit up Newegg about intel's recall?

>>102359935
welcome to the club brother

>>102359970
No it doesn't

>>102359905
BDrips of films by Andrei Tarkovsky, Wes Anderson, Nicolas Winding Refn, and Denis Villeneuve

>>102360193
i mean, it probably does if your CPU is antique. i remember Callisto Protocol being so frustratingly unplayable on my 9700K that i dropped it not too far in. now that i have a 7800X3D i went back and having a blast.

>>102359856
If you have brain damage you could get a 8700g APU.
It competes with a 3050 6gb + 12100f or 5500 but it's 30% less fps, but the 8700 has a decent CPU at least for a big GPU upgrade like a 4070.
But if you had braincells you should increase your budget to $700 and go for a 6650 xt or 4060 if you want nvidia (nvidia is more popular than AMD but the 6650 XT is $50 cheaper, performance depends heavily on the game). (but to reach $700 you need to be a cpu-let so you need a 12100f or 5500). ddr4 and ddr5 doesn't matter, you need to spend 2x more on ram to actually see 20%imp
If you buy used, I bought a 1660 TI for $70 on facebook marketplace, it's better than the 8700g or 3050, but it's half the FPS of a 6650 XT or 4060
If you are desperate, AliExpress xeon+cpu+ram are $60~
If you live near a microcenter, you should get the intel or AMD bundle (ask /pcbg/ before buying the bundle, same for the PC part list). You usually get at least $50 discount compared to buying separate parts (the sale % is a scam, they cherry pick poorly priced parts, if you buy lower spec parts, they perform like 10-30% less, but they are half the price of the microcenter bundle, but I can't deny microcenter parts are pretty to look at and you typically wont find a better deal).
You should start off building a PC because when you build a high end PC you are more experienced and if you fuck up a $700 build, it won't cost as much to repair as a $3000 PC due to some stupid thing you did.
If you are a nerd, you can use math to figure out the real value of a CPU or GPU. Just find a game you care about, then find benchmarks. Divide the fps with the cost of the part, then compare which has the lowest cost per frame. Make sure your mobo has 2 m.2 slots.
Good benchmarks are gamers nexus, toms hardware, certain youtube reviewers, and userbenchmark gives a quick idea of performance (but read the actual performance results, not the total score), pcpartpicker to find parts and find best prices.

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>>102360193

>>102360261
Your screenshot is weeks old. They released two patches for the demo. I'm getting 120fps on a 7900gre.

>>102360245
actually my bad, I thought the 8600g was the cheapest APU (I forgot about the 8500g) and the 8700g was the 8600g.
Yes the 8600g is the choice, the 8700g is so much more expensive (but my statement that the 8700g is much stronger is now wrong, it's about the same performance as the 12100f and 5500. technically if you had $750 in your budget I would suggest a 6 core cpu like 12400f or 12600 if you want e-cores, but that's up to you, the cost per frame for 12100f is just better but you do get 20-30% more fps if your CPU was the problem, note unless you get a 4070 + 1080p + low settings it's unlikely).

>>102360274
I do hope it runs better now
But the graphics haven't changed

Payment declined because Newegg charged me for each item one after the other instead of one charge for the total like everyone else does. Good job retards.

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Alright /pcbg/
I got a 7800x3d
I got a B650M-HDV/M.2
I got 2 6000CL30 sticks
I got an SN850X
I got an Intel 210 wifi adapter
And I got an AK620 cooler

What's the order of operations for installing that shit to my existing shit like case, psu, fans and whatever?
I am thinking
>plug psu in the socket and turn it on
>keep tapping it to discharge static electricity
>hook mobo to psu with no ram no cpu nothing
>flash bios
>unhook mobo
>put cpu in
>put ram in
>put m.2 in
>apply thermal paste
>put cooler in
>put wifi adapter in
>attach mobo to case
>hook case fans and other non essential shit to the correct header
>put gpu in
>unplug psu from socket and connect it to everything
Is this the correct order of operations or am I missing something?

>>102360561
if you got good RNG it might be updated to support the CPU's without needing to flash.

>>102360579
Doubt that would be the case in my shithole
I don't need ram either for a flashback right?
And assuming everything goes well do I need to enable expo/train ram from the bios?

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For the love of God, I can't remove my graphics card from my motherboard (Asus b550m). Any help?

Anyone test the 7800X3D iGPU? Didn't even know it had one.

>>102360617
Find a way to push down on that white tab on the slot. Entire patents have been created to fix this stupid locking mechanism.

Haven't built a PC in a few years and saw EVGA got out of making Nvidia cards. What's the next best manufacturer for warranty and customer service?

>>102360561
make sure not to install windows with another drive that has windows boot manager on it connected to the pc

>>102360648
there isnt one they all suck pick your poison

>>102359543
bump, are there any glaring problems with this build? other than getting ripped off lol. followup, how does the 7800X3D handle something like dwarf fortress 0.47.05? and the build in general handle old games?

Is the new socket for Arrow Lake supposed to maintain cooler compatibility with LGA1700?

>>102360726
DF is more on the CPU side.

People gotta understand that some games needs more CPU power than others and some games rely on GPU.
Simulation games, MMOs, all CPU.
Everything else, GPU.

>>102360627
AMD put 2cus in the IOD for AM5 its 9600GT tier so its not really usable for anything but very old games, the 7500F is basically AMD selling the IODs that failed graphics validation.

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>>102360646
I can't do it and I think I broke it, I simply don't know what to do now

>>102360774
>DF is more on the CPU side
yeah that's what I'm asking. multicore can be wasted on DF yeah? so 7800X3D works great in modern shit, but what about stuff that can't/won't use all the cores?

>>102360850
You didn't break it. Unless you actually broke it off, which I doubt. Get a pencil and push down on it, while wiggling your GPU out. Push down on the pencil harder if you have to.

>>102360880
And if you really can't take it out remove your CPU cooler so you have more room.

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Someone give me one last check before I start buying https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CW9jfy

>>102361016
>noctua
a fool and his money are soon parted

>>102358679
>basically I want to build a PC that is totally useless for gaming
apple is the closest to that followed by chinkshit android tv boxes and sbc memes like raspis
if you just want to look like srs bsness get a workstation from hp/lenovo/dell but they do look quite gaymer nowadays, last ones that didn't look very gaymer were from 2016

>>102361016
>980 pro
No
>7900 xt
No

>>102358982
why won't they give us plain lanczos and no sharpening
it would look great almost always as long as you weren't upscaling from sub-720p

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>>102360868
The single threaded performance is a bit lack-luster. That being said, I've been playing Dwarf Fortress on WAY worse machines, including crappy thinkpads. I would not let it be the deciding factor.

>>102361043
>>102361088
Do you want to suggest alternatives or at least say what's bad about them?

>>102361126
Noctua is so overpriced. You could get a cheaper AIO and get better temps OR spend less and get the same temps but a slightly noisier fan.
980 is so overkill for 90% of the people here. I would say 980 is good for people building a workstation rig, but for gaming you could easily just get a Crucial P3 or something cheaper.

>>102361097
That's FSR1, which is straight garbage
Or you can probably use Lossless Scaling, also straight garbage

>>102361126
You actually need me to tell you Radeon is trash tier?

>>102361195
there's nothing wrong with radeon gpus, kill yourself

>>102361225
Nothing wrong with them, except
>trash tier drivers
>trash tier upsampling
>trash tier rt
>trash tier features (dldsr, broadcast, etc)
>trash tier support
They're perfect besides that

>>102360850
remove the entire motherboard from the case to get better access

>>102361148
As for the CPU cooler: I'd like to avoid an AIO for this build. I just got lazy and picked it because I knew it worked well with the weird case I'm going with. Looking harder at it, you're probably right, though.
The SSD: What workloads would you think justify a 980?

P.S. I just realized I hadn't bothered looking into case fans. Someone throw some at me.

>>102361115
thanks anon, just wanna make sure I'm not gimping myself on all the older shit I play by buying the latest and greatest

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>>102360850
>>102360880
>>102361263
Yes, it broke, my friend. I don't know what I did, but it seems that God doesn't like me for some reason; I have the reverse Midas touch. I wasn't born to be happy

>>102361284
>The SSD: What workloads would you think justify a 980?
Video editing, music production, 3D animations etc.
Anything that needs you to read and write large files constantly.

If you get a slower NVMe it won't even impact the write speed because your internet speed is your bottleneck. 1Gb/s internet is 125MB/s and cheaper drives have at least 300MB/s.
As for read speeds you actually don't need that much when playing games. It's not like it's reading 100GB of the game files every second.

>>102361375
Yeah, you fucked up. It looks like you tried to pry it out or something instead of pushing down on it. Best thing to do is remove the whole thing out of the case and try to see if you can still remove the GPU.
Get a new motherboard.

>>102361375
do you have gorilla hands or something? these things are usually pretty fuckin sturdy.

Okay I trust this guy with my life. Goodbye, Noctua! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqTJzYHGBwM

>>102361412
No, I tried pressing and pressing and pulling (the graphic card) a little at the same time, but it never worked. I started by pressing lightly, but it didn’t work, so I gradually increased the force (since when I managed to remove it, I applied a lot of force).
>Get a new motherboard
That’s the problem: one like this costs almost a month's salary where I live

Should I just get an A620 motherboard if I'm going with a 7800X3D?
The only thing I'm slightly hesitant on versus B650 is PCIe 3.x for one of the M.2 slots but if I fill that with a drive for bulk storage purposes then it probably won't ever be an issue

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amd lost

>>102361474
The modern take on a jar?

>>102361474
sex with Ireina

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Man i wish steam would tell us the exact cpu models like with gpus. intel marketshare just isn't budging

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>>102361629
this the future of pc building

>>102361692
Have you cum on that?

Would you spend the $600 to jump from a 4080 Super to a 4090?

>>102361760
Yes, as long as the money doesn't go into the hands of amd

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Re posting since last thread got nuked.
Going to use it for gaming at 1440p mainly. $1500 budget USA.

While were at it anybody have any monitor recs? Never had a curved monitor so maybe I'll fall for that meme, otherwise probably just go with an ultrawide flattie.

>>102361660
what if they have giant farm of atom platforms for the sole purpose of padding steam surveys?

How is the 990 EVO compared to SN850X?

>>102361150
both of them have far less artifacts than fsr3/xess/dlss, and fsr 1 wasn't plain lanczos, they were already doing random crap back then

>>102361798
Way better.

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>>102361692
Just returning to tradition I suppose.

>>102361769
1. Get a Phantom Spirit which is cheaper and better. Why the fuck are you even buying that thing?
2. Gigabyte has a poor reputation when it comes to quality. ASUS or MSI preferably but that's not saying much. They all suck.
3. Corsair makes terrible quality overpriced cases. Buy Fractal Design instead.
4. Seasonic is better but EVGA is fine. Ever since they stopped doing GPUs they've kinda fallen off relevancy.
5. Nice to see Jews getting away with selling a $549 video card for $600 and then $630 for "overclocking" it. Don't get OC cards if you can avoid it. They're overpriced scams that mean nothing.
Ultimately this is just nitpicking and you'll be fine either way.

>>102361016
>rosewill psu
my nigga if you can afford to spend over 1k just on cpu and gpu then shell out a little extra for a reliable power supply

>>102361798
for me, i don't trust samsung since they somehow managed to fuck up their flagship ssd launch 3 generations in a row with bad firmware like how is that even possible?

Whats stopping nvidia from charging $5999 for the 5090 and $3499 for the 5080?

>>102361798
When people suggest you buy Thermalright for the CPU cooler or Western Digital for the SSD they mean that these products have a solid price-to-performance ratio. No one will deny that Noctua and Samsung are better but for most people it's better to save the money and get 90% of the way there.

>>102361883
Lower total revenue than selling more units at a lower price
Demand is not a linear relationship with price. After some point in pricing, demand drops off exponentially

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>>102361805
Can't do this

>>102361893
But there's no alternative.

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>SSD prices still haven't returned to their lows in early 2023

>>102361912
The alternative is last gen products or just skipping the generation
See Turing GPUs and then the return to decent pricing with Ampere (before crypto fucked it all up)

>>102361894
>nvidia oil painting filter
yeah, that's why it's dogshit

Radeon sucks ass

>>102361016
>Rosewill
They still make that piece of shit? I'm already getting anxiety thinking about having a 1000W Rosewill PSU in my house.
>Teamgroup
Why buy generic OEM RAM when you can get G.Skill's built for Expo™ RAM for not much more?
>Noctua
Expensive but nice. Although I'd only use an NH-D15 G2 LBC if you insist. Or get one of the Thermalright coolers instead.
>Gigabyte
Stop getting tricked into buying Gigashit boards because they always show up as the cheapest.

Most importantly. I don't care what anyone here says... If you're getting a 7800X3D and you're buying an AMD GPU, you're doing yourself a massive disservice. Just get a 4070 Super and be happy. AMD GPUs make no sense above $600 range similar to how Nvidia GPUs make no sense under $600 range.

>>102361937
Gaydeon

So is the Corsair RM1000X good to have a nice amount of headroom for relatively cheap or a ticking time bomb?

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The fuck?

>>102361982
Seems like a normal lower-midrange motherboard price to me t. last build a pc in early 2020

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>>102361930
>muh nvidia butthurt
Quite the contrary: DLAA is clearer than TAA. In fact, even DLSS Quality mode is better than or equivalent to TAA in most cases
And don't forget that FSR1 or lanczos carries with it all the flaws of the underlying TAA
https://youtu.be/zDJxBykV1C0?t=684

>>102361912
Like anon said, price too high and net profit will be lower. GPUs are elastic not inelastic goods.
https://www.tsc.fl.edu/media/divisions/learning-commons/resources-by-subject/math/calc-and-business-calc/CostRevenueandProfitFunctions.pdf

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>>102361994
Shit's $190 everywhere else. It's some weird ass seller. It says I can return. Dare I?

>>102361883
>the 4080 sold so poorly at $1200 nvidia had to lower the price to $1000
>surely this means the 5080 will be $3500!
are you fucking retarded

How much of an increase could I expect going from a 3060 to a 4070?

>>102362020
that was before AI. They can't lower margins or company value goes down 50%, that's how retarded they made it with this shit

>>102362016
I was just about to say it's probably some dirty rat trying to scam someone by lowering the price. Of course not. Amazon really needs to fix their retarded UI. People naturally assume that's just the whole thing on sale, not a random person selling it.

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>>102362062
A bigly one

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https://youtu.be/J2FMQfEiBOA

th-thanks CDPR

>>102362106
It's just another reminder that Radeon is an obvious second-class citizen in game developers' minds
Why would anyone WANT to be a second-class citizen by buying Radeon?

>>102362082
40% doesn't feel good, 60% feels good, I went from 5700xt to 7900XT

>>102362062
wait for 5070/8800xt if you can afford to wait, it's so close

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FUCK

>>102362131
It's fucking Cyberpunk 2077. Everyone is a second-class citizen.

>>102362020
We keep forgetting about the price drops and unlaunches. Someone who spends $1,000 on an RTX 4080 will be very happy. $1,600 for an RTX 4090 is reasonable because it's for workstations, streaming, etc. so those people get a return on investment within a month. RTX 5080 might try $1,200 but I'd say the current prices are what most people are willing to tolerate for A WHILE. Keep in mind how expensive but lackluster this upcoming gen hardware is. There's a reason no one recommends PCIe 5.0 SSDs. Anyone remember 9000 series Ryzen launching?

>>102362146
7800X3D?

>>102362131
when modders and in-driver solution have better results than this shit the only thing happening here is malicious uncompetitive intent.

>>102362239
Yep. I really don't want to wait any longer (old computer is busted) but my pride won't let me buy from fucking walmart.

>>102362255
I got 7700x from aliexpress, the damn box was sealed but had chinese characters on it, it was bizarre, I got it 30% cheaper than locally.

>>102362146
>>102362239
Anyone have any idea when newegg would restock?

>>102362255
Delivery times are a week long for this batch from what I've seen if that makes you feel better. By the time yours would've arrived they'll be restocked again anyway. It'll be worth the wait for an actual futureproof CPU that mogs everyone.

>>102362356
Seemingly every 5 business days or so. AMD is pushing these fuckers out as fast as possible. These aren't China virus days anymore, we're all gonna make it.

>>102358812
>is LG UltraGear 27GR83Q-B any good? people say it's decent for it's price
>how is it compared to gigabyte m27q (not the X version)
Assuming you are referring to the v2.0 of the M27Q that comes with a normal RGB layout, RTINGs has tested both and here they are H2H compared:
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/compare/gigabyte-m27q-rev-2-0-vs-lg-27gr83q-b/34719/41927
The LG gets brighter and has significantly better refresh rate, motion response times, and VRR performance
The Gigabyte has wider viewing angles
Otherwise they are comparable.

I would pick the LG especially if gaming.

I don't know where else to ask.
should I try a 1440p monitor?
I have 1080 and 4k both at 144hz. used the 4k for a year and went back to 1080p because I wanted more fps.
7800x3d and 4070. I wanted the great power efficiency of the 4070 because I live off-grid so power efficiency matters to me.

it feels stupid to buy a high refresh rate 1080p monitor because, lol buying 1080p in current year. 1440p seems like a stop-gap, but 4k high fps is still years away.

idk bros, is 1440p noticeably better than 1080p? should I get something that does 240 - 360 hz?
right now my 4k monitor is my side monitor for videos and such. I mostly game but I do programming too, currently still a student though.

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>>102361375
>>102360850
>>102360617
>>102361412
I managed to remove the graphics card.
Do you think the motherboard is still in good condition? From what I researched, the graphics card can still work without the latch

>>102362106
The cope in this video is unreal

Semi-related.
Which companies sell the best workstation laptops?

>>102362146
>imagine
>sold out and only ryzen 9000 at ryzen 9000 prices available
>still ryzen 7000 performance

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>have Gigabyte M27Q 27 in. 1440p 165hz IPS monitor
>want second monitor
>budget priority

I'm thinking either 1080p60 24 in. IPS, or 1440p60 27 in. IPS.

Seems like all the 27 inch monitors that get recommended are the high refresh rate gamer™ monitors.

Is there any good budget (<$200) 27 QHD or should I just go with the 1080p60 24?

>>102361854
>Why the fuck are you even buying that thing?
Good ratings and performance also its quiet. Phantom spirit looks about the same and its cheaper so I might go with that thanks.
>Corsair makes terrible quality overpriced cases
Unless their build quality has gone down in the 5 or so years since I last built a PC I don't think this is true and and $90 for a case doesn't seem crazy expensive all the FD ones are about the same or more.
>Seasonic is better
Agreed but I couldn't find a fully modular seasonic with the specs I need at a comparable price.
>jew shenanagins
What video card would you get?

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>Is that a 7800X3D anon?

I got my 7800x3d yesterday but still waiting for the motherboard. Upgrading from an 3600. Can't wait to see the difference.

>>102362513
Okay, looking at it the latch still looks fine. I think you just bent the corner.
Check if it actually locks still.
And yeah, your GPU can still work. The latch is just there to keep it from falling off.

>>102362577
I have the G27Q from Gigabyte.
I paired it with a Dell G2724D. They often go on sale. 1440p, 165Hz if you use DP or 144Hz for HDMI. Color on it is....not good. But it's cheap so whatever.

>>102362607
Does the Corsair case come with fans? I could never justify a PC case for more than $50 and not coming with fans.

>>102362577
>Is there any good budget (<$200) 27 QHD or should I just go with the 1080p60 24?
For a secondary monitor there are plenty of options:
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#r=384002160,256001440&sort=price&page=1&D=100000,540000

At the low-end you can get a 100Hz 1440p IPS for $140: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Jw26Mp/msi-pro-mp275q-270-2560-x-1440-100-hz-monitor-pro-mp275q
For $20 more you can get a 180Hz IPS model: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/c6mNnQ/acer-vg271u-m3bmiipx-270-2560-x-1440-180-hz-monitor-vg271u-m3

If you don't mind spending up to $180 the Dell G2724D despite the 165Hz refresh rate has the best all-around image quality and tuning under like $500 and despite listing for $200, is $180 right now after coupon code MONITORS10 right now (expires in 3 days):
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vyqrxr/dell-g2724d-270-2560-x-1440-165-hz-monitor-g2724d
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw9ByU6AOd8

>>102362016
I saw that too, best case scenario is a used mb in good condition but most likely its a scam. Note it also has $30 shipping cost.

>>102362659
Yes it has two 120mm fans included with space for 6 more

>>102362607
>Unless their build quality has gone down in the 5 or so years
Maybe not the 4000D (but who knows if they've lowered the quality of the steel for example) but lots of their modern cases are bad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noEsy94u8Hg

>>102361016
Rosewill PSUs suck and only for turbo poorfag builds, if you want to save some money you can instead get a phantom spirit 120 and WD blue ssd

I'm gonna have a hearty laugh when the 9800x3d is also only a 4-5% uplift from previous gen.

>>102362631
similarish, have 3600 and upgrading to 7950X3D

>>102362688
ty for recommendations! I'll take a look at them all

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any of these worth it?

>>102362631
i went from 5600x to 7800x3d and it doubled my fps in darktide and helldivers 2

>>102362827
I expect another standing HUBSteve video, do they just assume Arrow Lake will be as underwhelming as their Zen 5 lineup is?

>>102362910
NP.

>>102362930
In terms of 1440p OLEDs, it basically boils down to:
Innocn 27A1S - Your cheapest foot-in-the-door OLED to leave the LCD wasteland behnd
AOC Agon Pro AG276QZD2 - Cheapest QD-OLED if you care about tightr panle unifomity, color volume/gamut, and the clarity/lushness of a glossy coating
MSI MPG 271QRX - Cheapest 360Hz QD-OLED if you are a gamer that play a lot of arena twitch shooters and have a GPU that can sustain that high a framerate
^Everything else listed is just the offering the same panel rebadges as those models at higher prices.

Personally I'd only consider the Innocn & AOC models as once you get to $700+ on the MSI for example it's dangerously close to the 4K QD-OLEDs starting around $950 that have substantially better PPI and therefore sharpness and all-but-eliminated color fringing.

>>102363053
those were the 2 I was considering too.
innocn for some random bran I've never heard of.
aoc for a brand that I've at least heard of before.
the rest of them seemed like markup for osd menu features.

I'm probably just going to go with 240hz since 480hz oled is starting to be released too.

>>102363053
it's really cool that you know so much about monitors and can help people

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>>102356822
Could you go into a bit more detail? These are mobo settings, correct? I haven't touched any of the defaults except to turn the auto installer for that MSI firmware updater thing off, which I don't even think works on Linux (which my NAS is).

>>102363053
>Cheapest 360Hz QD-OLED
G60SD can be cheaper, some people manage to get it for $450-500

>>102363195
I miss that faggot moot

>>102361885
nta but how is Samsung better than Western Digital? WD SN850X 2TB and Samsung 990 pro 2TB are basically the same price in Australia - 990 pro cheaper in some cases. (excl international amazon sales) I'm curious cos I'm looking at a new 2TB or 4TB ssd

>>102363119
>I'm probably just going to go with 240hz since 480hz oled is starting to be released too.
Sounds good, if it's down to the AOC & Innocn I think the extra $50 premium is very much worth it to jump from the WOLED-based Innocn to the QD-OLED based AOC model. The image quality improvements and clarity of a glossy coating are really worth it IMO.
https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/exploring-oled-brightness-improvements-woled-vs-qd-oled-and-the-need-for-new-metrics-and-specs
https://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/qd-oled-vs-woled

Incidentally, Innocn is a Chinese brand that get both LG & Smasung's panels from South Korea very cheaply and are trying to gain marketshare in the West recently by undercutting current players on price-per-feature SKUs like with their 27M2V which is a 27" 4K IPS that I think still holds the distinction for most local dimming zones per inch for the price on the market (reviews were mixed on tuning/QC though).

>>102363165
I think monitors are one the most important parts of any PC build as it's literally what you see 100% of the time you are interacting with the system and can carry over between builds. Frankly it's only been in the last 2-3 years that OLED has made it's way to PC monitors in reasonable sizes that things have gotten more exciting which hasn't really been the case in recent memory since the introduction of B-Stock 1440p IPS "Overclockable" Korean Monitors like the Yamakasi Catleap started showing up on Ebay and became popular on /g/ many years ago for $00-350 which at the time others were like $700-1,000+ and Locked 60Hz IIRC.

>>102363247
>Innocn
wait, is it Inno3D branch?

>>102363262
Different companies.
https://www.inno3d.com/about-inno3d
^Founded at least as far as 1990
https://www.innocnmonitor.com/who-we-are.html
^Founded 2014


>>102363217
>G60SD can be cheaper, some people manage to get it for $450-500
Wow that'd be good if they can be had as low as that. The issues is Samsung insisted on putting a matte coating on their version of the QD-OLED which causes intra-panel light scattering that pollutes adjacent subpixels with light and therefore color halation resulting in a kind of smudgy/haze-y appearance that impedes the native contrast of OLED and it's general/text clarity which is already a problem for 1440p OLEDs wrt text fringing because they use non-RGB layouts that most OS's expect by default for GUI/Font Rendering.

>>102363022
what gpu and res?

Someone shilled the LG UltraGear Gaming Monitor 27GP850P-B and I just ordered in discounted to £258 from £380.

>>102363370
Nice.

>>102363351
4080, 1440p

Do you think Nvidia will use the same coolers for 5000 series?

>>102361854
>2. Gigabyte has a poor reputation when it comes to quality. ASUS or MSI preferably but that's not saying much. They all suck.
Gigabyte motherboards are fine these days

>>102363240
990 Pro is just faster in all use cases, but it's not *that* significant in a lot of benchmarks.
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/samsung-990-pro-ssd-review/2

>>102363481
Seems likely. They're quite proud of the current design and it performs well.

>>102363426
Going to make it my main monitor from my current 1440p, get rid of my second 1080p, and have two 27 inch 1440p monitors now.

>>102363547
What prompted this? I still have 3 1080p monitors. Works very well for productivity AND for discord/music/whatever alongside gaming.

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>still no news about 50series
you /g/uys told me to wait and now i'm rotted in bed.

>>102363585
January

>>102363514
I'm about to install a 990 pro 2tb upgrading from some intel shitter

>>102363585
its q1 2025

>>102363582
I sit quite far back from my screens and have a 16 inch workstation

>>102363582
Also just about to build a significantly better rig

best defrag software in the current year?

>>102363620
>16 inch workstation
Wot

>>102363660
Lenovo P series
Work laptop

>>102363671
Having only a laptop is so cringe. Never doing that again. I want both a desktop and laptop.

>>102363496
gigabyte b650 and x670 boards are infamous for coil whine, though

>>102363698
Been visiting this thread for multiple years and never heard of that.

>>102363719
well its a good thing this isnt the only place for hardware info

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>back to school """sales"""
>find parts at their all time low price
>put them in the basket
>put them in the basket
>better than expected total
Should I do it? I am not sure if dark Friday have anything better.

>>102363777
Sure if they really are good deals based on the price history.

>>102359856
Sounds like the PS5 is just right for you

Buy a Fractal North case today!

>>102363777
black friday is a meme
they jack up the prices a month before and then discount (the discount is still more expensive)

>>102364005
I like price history trackers because of this. You can tell if something is alright.

>>102363685
I have desktop as my main rig. I have 2 laptops.

>>102359856
Get a refurb workstation and pop a used Vega and some additional storage in it. There's no reason to build from scratch at that price range. The anon telling you to spend half your budget on a new Ryzen APU is on crack or something

should i put the fans on top of aio radiator or below it???

>>102364555
Fans do best when pushing.

I had an original windows installation before I got my new pc, but now even though I moved my old boot SSD to the new pc it says I need to activate it. I don't really remember where the heck I did store my windows keys, so I guess I'm sailing the seven seas. Any pointers?

>>102364746
windows thread on /g/
if you remember the place you bought the key from that acc might have pointers for the key, or the email from them

amd bros
https://www.techpowerup.com/326589/biostar-announces-radeon-rx-580-white-graphics-card

>>102364794
they're still making RX580s???

where is that faggot delivery guy

>>102364912
what kind of faggot are you having delivered, anon?

Brehs, is 7900gre ok or should I spend more and get 7800xt

>>102364944
I mean 7900xt.

>>102364761
>windows thread on /g/
Thanks, I somehow looked for "windows" in the catalog and I couldn't find it so I thought it didn't exist, skill issue I guess.
>if you remember the place you bought the key from that acc might have pointers for the key, or the email from them
I got it back in 2016, I tried looking for keywords in my emails like "windows", "activation" etc but found nothing.

>>102364943
bros everything is here time to assemble my new machine

>>102364944
7900GRE is fine and gets close to the 7900xt, especially if you OC the memory

>>102364989
Danke.

>>102364956
ofc these days you can buy win11 keys for <20€ from kinguin if you feel like it

>>102365016
I kinda want to keep using w10. I ended up using an activation script from /fwt/, it was surprisingly easy to do, wow!

>>102365028
I understand, win11 is absolute garbage

can i just connect my antistatic band to the metal thing in the outlet?

>>102364987
Cool can you post some photos

>>102364835
Polaris is probably the most successful architecture AMD has ever put out.

>>102364835
it's not like globalfoundries has anything better to do
14nm is cheap

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>BUT OLED MONITIORS ARE GOOD

>>102364835
That's actually RX 580 2048sp
It's RX 570 with a different name.

How do we feel about this Samsung Odyssey G5 monitor? The entire series on sale for the next couple days. This one is an IPS panel with HDR. https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-odyssey-g50d-27-qhd-ips-180hz-1ms-amd-freesync-gaming-monitor-with-hdr-400-displayport-hdmi-black/6573717.p?skuId=6573717

>>102365243
first off ips cant do hdr
edgelit panels cant do hdr
ips has shit contrast
its probably fine for scenarios where you dont see dark areas or high contrast edges

>>102365194
>phone

>>102365345
Is there's difference in tech?

do m.2 heatsinks do anything?
Do they let the drive maintain higher speeds?
Do lower temps make them last noticeably longer?
Does it even matter, wouldn't the drive die before thermal cycling ever got to it?

I see my drives running kind of hot since I have a case with shit thermals because I fell for the quiet case meme a few years ago and wonder if I should bother installing some m.2 heatsinks

>>102365469
type sensors into terminal and it will tell you the temps

>>102365469
I mistakenly thought my m.2 heatsink was a cover so I threw it away, it's been over 4 years now. Haven't had any problems

is AMD X3D now the go-to CPU for autism games (i.e. single core simulation heavy e.g. dwarf fortress, rimworld, factorio, paradox etc.)?

>>102365566
depends on the game
not all games utilize it

>>102365438
Phones tend not to have a lot of burn in protection enabled as they are expected to turn off the screen on a regular basis.

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Am I stupid or did these niggers at amazon send me the wrong PSU in the right box?

>>102365641
???

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>>102365641
>box says RM750x
>is holding an RM750x

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>>102365641
S/N doesn't match. Also, the one on the box looks way different from the unit I got.

>>102365693
might be an older box with a newer product revision (or older)

check the manufacture date of the S/N of the box and the PSU itself and check which is older

>>102365693
that could be the 2015 version and the newer versions have different layout

>>102365693
That would've been Corsair's mistake, not Amazon. Call them if you're concerned

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>>102365747
I looked it up and apparently they send me the old version inside the new box.

>>102365828
typical chinese

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Specs seem pretty similar. I'll just return it. I payed for the new version so I want the new version.

>>102365693
Seems like someone returned frauded their old PSU (pre 2022 model) with the new one
Contact Amazon and get a replacement or refund

>>102362702
>the look and features of the 6500x was the main reason I wanted to upgrade my computer recently
>its apparently a massive piece of shit
damn
any similar cases that are actually good, ideally with a black/brown wood color scheme?

Anyone know of a comparable monitor to the samsung Qn90a in terms of image quality? I have the 65 inch version and I'm really happy with it for my PC, but I want to use desktop as well for ergonomic reasons so I am looking for a monitor that doesn't make me feel like I should be using the other one due to being noticably worse or better. The 43 inch tv is the smallest and I think it's too large at 1 meter viewing distance.

>>102365952
any oled is gonna be largely better

>>102365849
the old version is probably better

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>>102365967
I'm scared of burn in
Plus I don't need largely better, as I said I just need up to par or my livingroom monster is going to sit there gathering dust, unless it's better despite being as cheap as an equivalent alternative.

>>102365998
old version: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/corsair-rm750x-power-supply,4303.html
new version: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/corsair-rm750x-2021-power-supply-review

>>102366011
there is miniled VA monitors, https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/aoc/q27g3xmn
or samsung neo g7

so they will do hdr and wont have terrible ips contrast
but I'd just get oled and deal with the burn in

>>102365851
this
you have photographic proof
>>102366018
new one is better

>>102365998
>>102366018
>The new RM750x has a significant performance lead over its predecessor, although it loses in average noise output to the older model which was dead silent. Still, you cannot call it the new model as noisy since it achieves a Cybenetics A- rating, with its average noise output being close to 28 dBA.
New version is better.

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Day 526 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.

Every time I think about replacing my near decade old pc I just look at the model, chipset and benchmark numbers and my eyes completely glaze over.

>>102366106
So why dont you buy a new pc?

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>>102365287
?

>>102366106
that's because the reviewshills compare current hardware not compare new stuff to old stuff because God forbid people make educated decisions

>>102366031
>but I'd just get oled and deal with the burn in
I dropped the idea, too expensive for 15k hours. I'd get one for $450-500 without thinking, just replace it when it burns in, 800-1000 item isn't that easy to throw away.

>>102365143

Because it was decent for the price you paid. Those fucks need to put out $300-$400 cards that are better than the 6600.

what thermal compound do I want for a 7800X3D? does it matter?

>>102366234
Arctic MX-6, Noctua NT-H2, Kingpin KPx. Avoid Kryonaut

>>102366196
>>102366031
It keeps being repeated but get an OLED (starting at $550 now) and either use your current LCD or "upgrade" to another large cheap office LCD for like $80-100 as your secondary desktop/web browsing monitor and then swap over to the OLED for gaming sessions or when you want to watch youtube/movies/shows where you actual care about the picture quality. Under that setup the OLED screen should last you 7-10 years or more. Have your cake and eat it too.

>>102366163
being able to display hdr signal and having hdr someone wants to look at is 2 different things
you generally need oled display for hdr

>>102366154
I would but it's just too much work to even know if it's going to be a measurable improvement. Every time I look it seems like you need a fucking degree to understand what the options are and what you're even comparing.

Even for individual components I've known for ages that my old HDD is fucked and sometimes completely dies and crashes my pc but actually replacing it with an NVMe SSD somehow seems worse because I have no fucking clue what I'm buying

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>>102358619
i7 8700
H310M s2p
16gb ram
GTX 970
550w PSU

Storage:
1tb m.2
256gb SSD
2tb SSD
1tb HDD

What should I consider upgrading? Tbh I know this is probably the gpu but the 970 plays everything I play.

Should I even consider going 32gb ram?

Also if I'm in the mood for consooming. Which graphics card should I get for say $400aud max?

>>102366221
So Nvidia can sell the 5070 for cheap which is what you will buy.

>>102366320
buy
7700 non X
asrock b650
2x16 6000cl30
lexar nm710
gold a-tier psu
whatever gpu you want
some generic tower cooler

>>102366320
You sound mentally retarded

theres actually not unlimited amount of options and given a specific budget range you'd get pc part recommendations that are pretty similar to each other from different people.
Like 2k € pc would lead to am5 mobo with 32gb ddr5 ram, 7800x3d, 4070 super or 4080 gpu, 2tb nvme ssd, some popular case like fractal north, a 850w psu.
Then if you want to spend less theres am4 platforms, 7600 cpu, so on.

>>102358679
Get a Talos II
That shit surely is 100% anti-pc gaymer, not even Macs come close

That's meant for secure computing, no bullshit

>>102359856
How would they have dealt with that emergency if you didn't have the money?

>>102366359
for 400 dollangaroos there's no worthwhile upgrade
you have a solid rig and only a full generational jump is really going to make sense, so save up if you think you're going to need one for any upcoming titles

>>102366359
Don't upgrade if you don't need to, fren
Each anon has different requirements, if that PC suits you then be it

>>102366391

Never bought a Njewidia product in my life

>>102366359
Like the other anon said, don't upgrade if you don't want to anon. Get 7900GRE, you might need a new PSU too.

>>102366423
based 12 year old

>>102366256
thanks anon

>>102366263
two monitors is a clusterfuck, for proper immersive experience(the point of a damn OLED) I'd have to move one of monitors to the center and other to the side, it would stand in front of my speakers, nope
waiting for tandem OLEDs or MSRP $500 OLEDs.

>>102366234
>does it matter?
something in the range of 8wkm will do. I put PTM7950 on mine so it won't dry out in two years, but ti cost me like $3 here for a small 25x25 sheet

>Samsung Commences Mass Production Of QLC 9th-Gen V-NAND
cheap 4tb SSDs incoming next year.

>>102366525
And 8TB dropping beyond extortion prices too?

>>102366525
>QLC
The SMR of SSD
Do not want.

I was fucking around with the curve optimizer on my 5900x and found that -25 on all cores seems mostly stable, but this is just a guess.
Is corecycler good?

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Speaking of SSds, if you use one these things do you still get normal speeds or is it permanently split between all four of them?

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I'm looking for an AM5 X870 mATX motherboard to pair with my new Ryzen 9900X but there doesn't seem to be many available.
Are they not released yet?

I was considering a B650E (with GPU PCI-E Gen5 lanes), as it seems to be pretty much the same chipset as X870 but there are also no mATX ones available.
I'm using the pic related "AM5 Motherboards Sheet" on Google Docs (4chan doesn't allow me to post the URL) for reference. Is it perhaps outdated?

>>102366474
>>102366418
>>102366407

Yeah I guess you're right. Just wanting to consoom I guess.

Only real game I might be interest in the future is the mgs3 delta remake or maybe civ 7.

Think this should be able to handle that?

All I really play now is terraria and that's only if my nephew is over. Otherwise it's just a piracy/media/online shopping machine lol

>>102366602
y cruncher
>>102366604
it's a 16 lane card with 4 x4 slots. do the maths

>>102366643
>it's a 16 lane card with 4 x4 slots. do the maths
I know but do I get reduced speed even if the other 3 aren't being written/read from?

>>102366655
you are not going to get reduced speed until the drives overheat OR you have a graphics card

>>102366643
it (and the GPU) will work at x8 if he already has a GPU plugged in

>>102366604
These cards only work with PCIe bifurcation enabled, which most consumer platforms don't support.

>>102366544
People dead set on M.2 are the only ones being extorted
I've had my 8TB NVMe SSD for almost 2 years now and it was $450

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>>102366392
>>102366394
Do you genuinely just not understand how opaque this is to anyone who doesn't have one eye directly plugged into a livestream feed of linus tech tips?
With CPUs it's at least somewhat manageable since there are only two options that both try to be as fucked as possible.

Like I genuinely have no idea if this matches the rec or not

>>102366685
>These cards only work with PCIe bifurcation enabled, which most consumer platforms don't support
You only need to do that IF you want to boot from it. And recent consumer motherboards do support it now. I know my ASUS, MSI, ASRock and Gigabyte support it now.

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>>102366666
Just checking the digits, don't mind me.

>>102366666
Dear Satan, let's make a deal: Arrow Lake will be good in exchange for RDNA5 being shit. Fair?

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Brehs, suggest me a cheap build with ECC rams, bonus points for ddr5, if you suggest 1u rack mounts with ddr2, that need a ton of power, you will be cursed with cursed thumbs(TM).

>>102358619
has anyone ever done 3080 evga pad replacement?
What did you use, GPU has non standard pad thickness...

>>102366722
theres some things like you can use AIO for cpu cooler, but an air cooler would be fine.
micro atx is fine but might limit m.2 slots or something if you're not also buy a micro atx case
you might want to google what nvme ssds tech sites rec and not buy a random one

Its gonna work just fine even if you dont optimize further

>>102366753
alright

>>102366759
ECC is not necessary for modern PC's so idk

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>>102366722
don't buy a water cooler

>got 420 Arctic III AIO as a gift
To what case can I fit that phat piece of bs at the top...
I have B650 Steel Legend so Im also concerned about mobo radiators...

>>102358619
how tight should a cpu cooler be, should a leave a little screw tightening or should i make sure its tight as possible

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>>102366793
just put the rad on top of the case. outside.

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>>102366726
Bifurcation is required if more than one M.2 is connected to be recognized at all.
>I know my ASUS, MSI, ASRock and Gigabyte support it now.
At best they support 8x/8x but for all 4 drives to work you need 4x/4x/4x/4x, even if it did work, you couldn't run a GPU

My Z590 Aorus Master was able to do 4x/4x on the secondary CPU PCIe slot but next gen dropped support for that configuration

Those cards are really meant for boards like this where every slot is a 16x or 8x and every slot has bifurcation support

If you really wanted that much M.2 you can use a card with a PLX chip, then it doesn't matter what board you use it in.

>>102366785
Like you don't need a 4090, people buy it anyway because people want it. I want ECC, not tell me about a cheap ECC build.

>>102366862
>cheap build
>ECC DDR5 RAM
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
kinda contradictory

>>102364325
The apu is a $500 PC.
$160 APU 8600g
$100 mobo
$50 ram
$50 ssd
$50 psu
$50 case
But It's my bad I said 8700g not 8600g.
But anon should buy a 6650 XT or 4060 if they want a low end PC, not a poverty ass PC.

>>102367588
Ok, ddr4 ecc then?

>>102367588
Bruh, look at this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/ggmyyg/an_overview_of_ecc_memory_on_ryzen/

Am4 has 1 bit correction and 2 bit detection. No suggest ein build.

>>102367781
Ryzen doesn't OFFICIALLY support it. Hell, even consumer Intel boards can technically tun ECC memory. But if it doesn't work then good luck trying to troubleshoot it.
It's why they don't outright say it in their spec sheet.

>>102367798
kys toxonigger

>>102366722
I was just like you a few months ago and seriously thought about buying a prebuilt because I didn't understand the compatibilities and other shit. A few weeks of research in Google, watching reviews, browsing pcpartpicker setups with reading this thread got me educated enough to build a PC. It's not that complicated, you just need some time and motivation.