>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use cases.State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC>CPUWeb browsing: 5600GBudget: 12400F, 7600XGaming: 7800X3DWorkstation: 7900XAVOID: Intel 13/14 series>COOLERAIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Arctic Liquid Freezer III, Hyte THICC Q60Double towers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67>MOTHERBOARDASRock B650M-HDV/M2, B650 LiveMixer, cheap X670>RAMDDR4: 2x16GB 3200CL16. Budget, 2x8GBDDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB>SSD (OS drive)Budget: SN580Mid range: SN770Premium: Samsung 990 ProFlagship: Sabrent Rocket 5 >GPU1080p: RTX 4070 Super, RX 7700 XT1440p: RTX 4080 Super, RX 7900 XT4K: RTX 4090, RX 7900 XTXWorkstation: RTX 4000 Series, AVOID: AMD cards>CASE (from $ to $$$)mATX: Montech Air 100, Lian Li A3, Asus Prime AP201, Lian Li O11 Air MiniATX: Phanteks XT PRO(ULTRA), Montech AIR 903 Base/MAX, Antec C5, Lian Li Lancool 216/IIIAVOID: 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, 4000D airflow>PSUBudget: Gold rated 500-600W PSUMid range: ATX 3.0 compliant fully modular gold rated PSU @ 75% max loadHigh end: Seasonic PRIME TXAVOID: GAMEMAXPSU buying guide: https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/ (updated Q3 2024)>MONITOR1080p: KOORUI 24E3, MSI G2412F, MSI MAG 256F, MSI G244PF E21440p: ASRock PG27QFT2A, Dell G2724D4K: Acer Nitro XV275K, Gigabyte M32U, Dell Alienware AW3225QF>OSActivate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fansHigh end: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)Previous:>>102358619
>>102366789Cute cat
>>102366789That poor kitty is so young yet looks so scrungy like cats do when they get old.
>>102366759>ECC ramswhy
>AVOID: 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, 4000D airflowwhy, because there's a cat on it?
>>102366872because they heat up more and if you noise normalise an airflow case it's quieter anywaysource: i live with a carbide series 275Q
>>102366843my guess is that /hsg/ told him he needed that and then some enterprise schizo redirected here
>>102366888Yeah I have a Lancool 216 and even this isn't exactly loud (with the exception of my GPU on full load without undervolting and the hard drive that's pissing me off but I'm trying to avoid buying an SSD for a bit)
Recently bought a MSI MPG 321URX 32" QD-OLED 4K 240Hz Monitor, any recommended setting I should have on?
>>102366782>you might want to google what nvme ssds tech sites rec and not buy a random oneThe recommended NVMe's seem pretty pricey.What am I actually trading off if I cheap out? Read speed? Stability?
>>102366789That's a cute cat right there
>>102366789Ah, the shit OP again!
>>102366829But I want It inside the case
>>102366957The QDOLED 4k screens are well calibrated out of the the box so there really isn't anything you need to tweak with them to get a great experience.
my 4090 came in, aaaaaaaaaaand it won't fit inside the case I ordered which said it supports 4090s (i'm pissed)any case recommendations? i don't give a damn about the gay ass leds
If I have an old 800w corsair psu lying around how raped am I going to be by energy efficiency using that for a pc (jellyfin) that's only going to be drawing 200w max and sub 100w at idle but is on 24/7? is it worth getting a new 550w psu instead or is it negligible?
Finde me a 1440p 16:10 screen
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/BcrHkJAm I doing anything retarded?When should I be on the lookout for price drops?
>>102366989 burst transfer speeds and sustained speeds and some reliability/software ease of use possibly
>>102366525Cool but the last Samsung ssdrive I had was a piece of shit so I'll steer clear of it
>>102367389Buy a 4k screen and cut off the excess
>>102367332It really dependsEfficiency at low loads varies a lot between PSUs even if they have the same 80 plus rating.I have an older PSU that is from 2006 I use for my router and its more efficient at low loads than a seasonic much newer.
>>102367417In the short term I think that's a risk I'm willing to take.Worst case scenario I have to shell out for a more stable and expensive drive for my os and games that are load bottlenecked. The write speeds I'm benchmarking it against are like 540mb/s on my ssd and 10mb/s on my current HDD though so I don't really expect to care unless it's unstable
>>102367332Assuming your old PSU is working fine and it meets any standard there is no point in buying new one. Depending on the exact model the curve might be slightly different but it will be less than 5% efficiency difference.So 3-4W of difference at 100W.
>>102367482You will probably never tell the differenceThe difference between "bad" and "good" SSDs are a few seconds in loading at the most.Moving from an HDD to an SSD is 90% of the improvement
>>102367389Used Dell UP3017
>>102367513cool, thanks for the help
>>1023674154080 Super instead, dunno about the PSU, pic whatever is reasonably priced from pic related, otherwise you are good
>>102367415I fix>https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Ry23KXThough depending on what you want the 7900xtx can be had for less money.
>>102367569you didn't fix shit other than the expensive ram
>>102367515>30´´Isn't that too much for 1440p?
>>102367580The psu is much better, the cooler is half the cost. You seem angry.
Nvidia GPU overclocking guides everywhere tell me that a good way to tell if a memory overclock is doing fine is if I'm not having a performance regressionHowever I haven't successfully found any benchmark or software that will make this obvious because I get inconsistent scores with or without undervolting/OCing.Any reliable tests for this shit? Anything I can actually measure without being completely confused after doing multiple tests because there's no consistency at all?
>>102367456>>102367502thanks guys. I'm going to run with the 800w after all then and look around to pick something up for monitoring the power usage of the machine and pray it doesn't fuck me into electrically induced bankruptcy before I can get a proper gauge on it.
>>102367598both the psu and the cooler are ancient
>>102367562>cheaper>better than the titanium graded dark power 13how do they do it?
Which are the most demanding PC games atm? I need a list to see if some cards can handle them or not. Any suggestions for a card that can handle modern gaming for at least 3 years at 1440p? I'm thinking on GTA6 and MH Wilds.
>>102367753>old = badokay
Is there any reason to wait for X870E or should I just buy a good old X670E + 9950X?Is Samsung 990 Pro still the best OS SSD to date?Are PCIe5 SSDs still a meme?Is 6000MHz/CL30 still the sweet spot, even for Zen5?Any reason to get the overkill bequiet! Dark Power Pro 1300W over Dark Power 1000W?Any reason to wait for ATX 3.1 PSUs? I head it's just the connector fix, but I haven't had any problems with it yet (already got 4080 S in my old pc).
>>102366957General Setup Checklist you can skim through at 2X Speed:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq3_XvjvQCEFor your QD-OLED it generally comes out-of-the-box with good calibration performance like >>102367185 mentioned but you can push into a great category if you don't have or want to buy a colorimeter by downloading and installing the model-specific ICC Profile from RTING's review:https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/msi/mpg-321urx-qd-oled#test_1468
>>102367787why? The most demanding games are demanding because shit optimization and not fidelity, therefore most likely are not worth playing.
>>102367855>Is there any reason to wait for X870E or should I just buy a good old X670E + 9950X?Even the X670E is a bit of a meme. Check which motherboard has the best VRMs and the coolest backplate and go for that. There is a good chance it will be a B650E. X870E is the same but with a USB 4.0 and $200 on top of the already inflated price>Is Samsung 990 Pro still the best OS SSD to date?It's Solidigm P44 pro but it's about on par with 990 Pro and SN850X>Are PCIe5 SSDs still a meme?Yes, now more than ever for 99% of users>Is 6000MHz/CL30 still the sweet spot, even for Zen5?CL30 yes. If you could manually OC it to 7800 MHz it would be slightly better. Huge emphasis on slightly>Any reason to get the overkill bequiet! Dark Power Pro 1300W over Dark Power 1000W?If you have the money to spend you may as well but GPUs are trying to become better at drawing less power while providing the same performance>Any reason to wait for ATX 3.1 PSUs? I head it's just the connector fix, but I haven't had any problems with it yet (already got 4080 S in my old pc).3.1 is inferior to 3.0 in every way by design. Avoid if you can
>>102367857Problem with ICC profiles is most software flatout ignores them so calibration really needs to be at the hardware level to be seen.
I got a Ryzen 5600 to replace my i5 6600 from 2016.Gaming is back. I will be able to fly smoothly in No Man's Sky.
I'm looking to build a PC for both gaming and 3D rendering. I want the ability to hot-swap hard disks with different operating systems easily. One slot for hot-swapping is sufficient, as I don’t want several hard disks mounted simultaneously for security reasons. The components should be highly compatible with Linux as a priority, while I will use Windows for gaming. My budget is $1,500 (the cheaper, the better), and I am located in Norway.
>>102368113whats $1500 in KR?
>>102367952Great, thanks.
Will Arrow Lake's GT2-tier graphics be faster/better than AM4's Vega 8?
>>102367569>Though depending on what you want the 7900xtx can be had for less money.I basically just play indie bullshit so it's a vanity project more than anything elseFrom what I can see prices new and used look similar between the two though.>>102367562Same with the super, actually
>>102367855>>Is 6000MHz/CL30 still the sweet spot, even for Zen5?>CL30 yes. If you could manually OC it to 7800 MHz it would be slightly better. Huge emphasis on slightlyDon't fall for the XMP/EXPO/OC meme, get 5600MHz CL46 with ECC
>>102368308Get DDR5-3600 CL60
>>102368335get ddr4 and jam it in
>>102367595Higher pix density than 24" 1200p0.25mm dot size vs 0.27
>>102368168~15000 kr
>>102366888beQuiet's Silent Base does not heat up more. It certainly has better "airflow" than fishtanks.
>>102368255Alright, Userbenchmark says that Intel Arc Graphics X8 H iGPU is slightly faster than Radeon 780M. That said,>I don't fully trust Userbenchmark>Arc Graphics X8 H iGPU corresponds to Meteor Lake's GT-2 and soon-to-be Arrow Lake's (8 Xe Cores)>Radeon 780M corresponds to R7-8700G's iGPU (12 RDNA2 cores)So anons feel free to correct me on this one
Frens, I live in an area where the 4090 is banned and got one before it was banned so that I didn't have to take the massive price hike (was going to get it anyways). That took up almost all of my budget at the time so I got a 14500 from a friend for free and basically threw together a build from that. So my question is is this a good path to upgrade the rest of the system to match the 4090? Or should I just use my current build (i5+32GB DDR4) for a while more and wait for newer CPUs to come out before upgrading? Everything marked 0 dollars are stuff I already own. I would need a new case too since the card didn't fit in the case until I removed the middle front fan.Thamks
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/amd-plans-for-fsr4-to-be-fully-ai-based-designed-to-improve-quality-and-maximize-power-efficiencyNVIDIA AND INTEL WERE RIGHT IN INVESTING IN TENSOR CORES AND XMX FOR AI UPSCALING AYYMDEAD WAS WRONG IN TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING ON SHADERS AND FOREVER PLAYING CATCHUP TO INNOVATIVE TECHNOLO/g/Y COMPANIES
>>102368109shouldve boughted 5700x3d like a normal non-cat owning person
>>102368540your picrel is the mesh version of the case which is not what most silent cases use, and that one has a nonmesh version for extra silence which is noisier than the mesh version when normalized for temperatures
>>102367389BenQ RD240Q or SW242Qboth are 2560x1600 24"t. RD240Q enjoyer
>>102368563>amd finally admits their ai is shitwe already knew this
>>102368540fuck fishtanksfuck aestheticsfuck rgbgayming was a mistakebring back old green pcb I like to see which electrical component died
>>102368549What is your use case? Get the 7800X3D if you're gayming. In that case you won't need that 360 AIO.
>>102368651Gayming and some uses of photoshop/blender/keyshot on the side. Also AI stuff when I feel like cooming
>>102368640>bring back old green pcb I like to see which electrical component diedjust buy prebuilt from hp or dell. they also have the best price-performance ironically. the only reason for pc building now is for aesthetics.
>>102368679>non-standard/proprietary connectors/form factorsGood suggestion but I pass on this one
>>102368581>2x the price Too much for this year. Next time.
>>102368677Then definitely get the 7800X3D if you're going Zen5 anyway, it's a no-brainer. If it's too expensive wait until those fucktards drop the prices again. Pretty laughable when your new generation is so boring you have to increase the prices of the old gen because nobody is buying your garbage.
>>102368563nvidia started putting tensor cores in their cards starting rtx 20 series, first ones came out in 2018.. Meanwhile amd
>>102368752I see... Thanks anonWhat about the other components? This is my revised list (I just saw that I actually put 2 RAM SKUs in my list because I am retarded)
>>102367952>3.1 is inferior to 3.0 in every way by design. Avoid if you canI thought it was just about hold up time being lowerIs 3.1 really that bad? Did I dodge a bullet by recently buying a 3.0 PSU instead of one of those 3.1s available?
>>102368113holy shit your prices are fuckedunironically buy the cheapest ticket to finland and buy most of your shit from there because you, sweden, denmark, and germany want $50-100 more per component7950x3d is currently the best for rendering and gamingInWin GT1 is old enough therefore cheap and has plenty of drive bays including a hot swapamd gpus are still better for linux but I'm not sure how they perform while rendering where I assume ngreedia will be the better optionfor psu you want the cheapest thing from list related
>>102368640Bruh, just buy a used tower server.
does steamdeck actually compete with a desktop in terms of the quality of the experience? 25% off LDC model + dock is tempting
>>102368864That list is like a year old
>>102368928do you have a link to an updated one?
Is 850w gold enough to run a 13900k, AIO, and a 4090?
>>102368957most likely unless cpu is heavily oc
>>102368882>720p gaming>upscaling is pretty much required>you have to look down to game (bad posture)>shit battery life>some games will no run or crash randomlyno. its only made if you travel a lot. even then i would recommend a laptop
is there a PC case where I can pop out the plate holding my motherboard and then pop it back in for upgrades? I legit cannot upgrade my PC cause my 4090 gets in the way and blocks the shit you have to push down to take it out, and underneath my 4090 is my SSD and RAM. + My Noctua is covering the other space and cuts the shit out of my fingers.
>>102368798I can't really help you there, sorry, I'm thinking about upgrading from a 9700K but I can't find a mainboard with the connectivity I need that isn't overpriced. If you go with that mainboard, check the RAM compability list to make sure it's on there.The cooler will certainly be sufficient for a 7800X3D.
bros i cant install that fucking stupid ek nucleus 360 aio im at the last step of bolting in the screws with spring and after i do one in the corner and go screw the one in opposite corner it springs away and doest want to latch on
Mom's shitty ass all in one PC is crapping out. Pretty sure AIO's are awful performance for the price, so I thought about buying an refurb business tier mini PC and a monitor and just mounting the PC on the back of the monitor since I don't think it's worth building something just for normal web browsing, some learning platforms and microsoft solitaire collection. Is it a good idea?
>>102369145just give her your PC and build a new one fag.
>>102369012I'm sure they exist but you're still going to have to remove the gpu to do anything. having a case where you can remove the top part of the case makes dealing with big noctual coolers a ton easier for anything above the pci slots
>>102369145buy her a refurb mac mini (if you are willing to be her tech support).
>>102369145I picked up one of these 1L pc builds for a small home server and it's surprisingly capable. if you can get one used on ebay in the $1-200~ range with a reasonable amd/intel cpu and upgrade the ram and stick an m.2 ssd in it then it's probably more than enough for normie pc use
>>102366872>>102366888>because they heat up moreThat's exactly what cats want. The OP cat seems very excited of his new warm box to sleep on.
>>102369145the less peripherals/devices/cables you give to your old ones, the better, she'll be like:>anon wtf is this cable mess>anon wtf is this tiny box here>anon wtf my puter doesn't turn on (she turned on just the monitor)just get her another cheap second hand aio
Spec for spec rebuild of the PS5 pro with slightly more/faster ram. Ps5 is running 13.25GB 2240mt/s.https://pcpartpicker.com/list/n9WXgBThoughts?
How can I turn off the lights on my RAM without having Corsair botnet constantly on? I can save a profile but it doesn't stick. And if it's impossible in software, are the LEDs easy to remove?
Goldarnit was composing reply to cheap ECC build anon in the last thread.>>102366759>>102367730For "cheap" full ECC support and desktop use you are maybe looking for a used workstation with Xeon CPU, but we don't know your actual budget (how many shekels you want to spend) or what your use case is (e.g., are you just looking at cat pictures or are you calculating the aggregate circumference of every living butthole on the planet).I have an ECC system (HP Z840 with 128GB DDR4 in quad channel setup).You know the cons of ECC already? Slower performing (only a little bit), not good for overclocking of RAM, more power draw.Using a workstation and setting up for quad-channel if you can get it helps with the performance issue and won't be listening to some rackmount server with tiny fans screaming in your ear.>>102366785Wrong but love it when the armchair expert pops in. It all depends on what you are using the system for.>>102367588Ja it's not cheap to get an ECC setup going
I bought an NH-D15S long the fuck agoIf my CPU is not absolutely fucking melting, is there any point on basically turning it into an NH-D15 by adding an extra fan to it? I heard this is a mediocre cooler these days and there's a newer version, and better coolers for like 30 bucks.
>>102368113>the ability to hot-swap hard disks with different operating systems easilyNot going to hot-swap live OS KEK.Look at Icy Dock, they have nice swappable m.2 enclosures etc.
what is a good temperature for cpu when sitting in bios?getting 39-42, my current pc is samey so im thinking its ok?
>>102369145I'd recommend grabbing one of these slim ones OP >>102369231I think Lenovo sells monitors with a slot behind to place one of these. There's also those minisforum miniPCs and some other brands you can basically take your average monitor with VESA mounting holes and essentially turn a monitor into an AIO with those, and they're more serviceable.
Is it worth fucking with memory latency and overclocking on Zen 3?I'm just thinking about how much of a chore it could turn into and if it's even worth it.
>>102369409If you have air cooler means you aren't doing much besides browsing internet or some coding, watching anime/shows. Don't add anything to it
>>102369449I have some old HP EliteDesk SFF like that Lenovo, has been running 24x7x365 with Mint for a couple of years, rock solid.>I should probably clean the little MF
>>102369486I thought of grabbing one myself earlier this year to replace a laptop I never ever take out of the house anyways. I might eventually do it.
>>102369504If you like HPs try to get the "ProDesk" version, typically have a better PSU that comes with.
>>102369292some asus motherboards have lighting "stealth mode" which turns all rgayb off
>>102369409real diminishing returns start at 3 fans, adding an extra fan isn't a bad idea. It doesn't even have to be a noctua fan, anything with clips will do
>>102369231I wish I could do more with this, if it had a pcie slot, I'd put a 4 slot nic or put a pcie hba. I want this form factor to work, but this poc cannot do anything for me.
>>102369475this post iq = their cpu temp
>>102369544It's a an older (X470) Gigabyte board, the BIOS has zero RGB options.
>m.2 slots right underneath the main PCIe slot so you can cook them with your 90C GPU exhaustWho thought this was a good idea?
>>102369381Ohio gozaimasu, thank you for replying. I want it for office use, and non-gaming use. I run a 1 person consulting company. I'll use it for watching animus, 4k tentacle pron, sending emails, programming, zoom, teams and so on. Right now I'm using a X1C G6 with 8 gigs of ram, the ram is the issue I think. I've been eyeing this tower server: Dell PowerEdge T430 Intel Xeon E5-2620 V4 64GB DD4 RAM with ECC, but this poc costs 750 freedom bux in my shithole. For the same price I can get a 7950x with steel legend and non ecc ram. 32gigs of fucking ecc ram costs almost as much as the processor if not more.Do you think T430 dell workstation can take a 7900gre?
that OP computer has terrible price to performance.
>>102369162She's not gonna be happy with a big tower. I'll build a new one next year anyway maybe I'll do something with it. Prob sell it. I don't need something that big for a simple file server>>102369268Mouse and kb are wireless I'm sure she can handle pressing the right button she's had a normal PC before. She's not that old anyway>>102369231>>102369449I'll check around nearby prices. I can see there's plenty of lenovo, hp and dells for around 100 to 200 already.
>>102369292Maybe OpenRGB will work with that too
>>102369475AIO means you like drinking cum.
>>102366789man, current hardware fucking sucks, nothing worth buyingooh look at that kitty with spiky fur, did it just get out of the washing machine?? pet pet pet
>>102369678Is it gAySUS?
>>102368776There's an a.i block of some sort in navi 31 but to my knowledge it isn't used for anything.
>can finally stream on discord without my frames halving (4070ti -> 4090)mighty curious
>ooh look at that kitty with spiky fur, did it just get out of the washing machine?? pet pet pet
>>102369289What the fuck is the poverty tier build? Everything is shit expect for the gpu. What the fuck is a timetec ssd?
>>102369443>Icy DockFucking jews, they cost a bomb, used disk shelves are much more cheap and you get more bays.
>>102369752I mean in general. I'm upgrading from a system built back when M.2 slots were a novelty. These days every board seems to need 4 of them, all put in the hottest spot of the board, while actual PCIe slots seems to have become a rarity.Actually, given it's all PCIe in the end, can you plug a PCIe x1 card into an M.2 slot via some kind of adapter?
>>102369838>can you plug a PCIe x1 card into an M.2 slot via some kind of adapter?Yes, that's how people use pcie in laptops and 1L pc.
>buy 4k monitor>gf’s games now crash on launch cuz bad GPU>”oops sorry babe, looks like I’ll just need one new part from microcenter to get it working again, can I have the card?”All according to keikaku
>>102369881what gpu
>>1023699346500 XT. Did really good for 1080p but I keep getting VRAM errors loading games in 4k
>>102369750Am I reading this chart wrong? The numbers appear to be temps above ambient (i.e delta) and lets assume am ambient floor of even a mere 15c that would put the bottom units with an absolute temp of 125c which is over the 115c limit. Obviously this isn't the case so either i'm being a brainlet in reading or whoever formatted that chart doesn't know what words mean.
>>102369939and what was the point of this devilish plan?
>>102369971Convincing the girlfriend a new GPU was an unavoidable cost to play Harry potter
>>102366789>AVOID: 4000D airflow>OP: ...Masterful troll
>>102369980and are you going to buy 5090 to play games at 4k?
>>102369960I think the chart isn't showing delta, the label is misleading/someone forgot to subtract ambient
>>102369881I have a crazy idea, just down scale from 4k to 2k forever. Play the game and she wouldn't even notice because she dumb.
>>102369997Yes, unless it’s priced like complete dogshit
>>102369996sauce?
>>1023697077900 GRE has a 260W TDP, what is the PSU in the system you are looking at? You need at least the 750 watt if not the 1100 watt one, the 450 and 495 watt ones would probably not be enough.And yes, thats a lot of money for what you are getting.May I ask why you feel you need ECC as a base requirement?
>>102370002But the plan is to get her to want a new card anon
>>102370031ECCanon, I hope you can get what you need for the money.I have to go offline for a bit, my 4070 Super just showed up and I need to clean up my Z840 and move some stuff around in it.>should be a little better than my Quadro M4000
>>102370041get her to want a new dick
any reason to go X670 over B650 if I'm not planning to install half a dozen M.2 drives?
>>102370031I was planning on 750w gold rated atx or sfx PSU.
I saw that Njewdia A2000 has ecc on gpu. What is that for and should I want that? Not buying Njewdia btw because loonix.
>>102369802it is specced to the exact standards of the PS5 pro. Are you expecting Snoy to shill out for Samsung 990s?
can anyone recommend a wifi usb adapter that isn't shit? I'm kind of tired of the ethernet cable I'm using now as it has to be really long to reach the router
>>102370429Do better anon, you are building for yourself unlike snoy who is building for people they hate.
>>102370351No. X670 is just two B650 chipsets glued together.
>>102370487Don't fall for the radio jew anon, run the cable in the wall, or on the wall in a cord cover, or in the ceiling, or inside a hollow skirting board, or get a flat one and run it under the carpet, so many ways to solve this.
>>102370571>>102370487I support being against the Radio jew.
>>102369997>>102370010It will be $3000, no competition from AMD
Jensen is laughing at us, bros...
>>102370627He always does.
>>102370627He is a Jew despite not being a Jew.
>>102370646before dying kissinger recognized him as honorary jew
So is the RX 7900 XTX just objectively better than the RTX 4080 SUPER then?
>>102370021I am feeling generous.https://exhentai.org/g/2144315/814ed6a07a/
>>102370687konichiwa, dude!
>>102370683If you don't care for the AI frame gen or RTX, very much so.
>>102370614Yeah I wouldn’t buy it at 3000. If the 5090 is 1800-2000 though and 50-60% better than the 4090, then I would probably consider it
>>102370701should I care?
>>102370699>>102370687thanks for helping my penis get hard so i can jack off, bro!
>>102370712>50-60% better than the 4090lol
>>102370737Depends on you. AMD is behind the whole AI thing but they are still making improvements.RTX is a hit or miss for some people. I care about it so I bought a 4080. It's up to you if you like that kind of graphics.
>pic related is going to be $500Looks like there's an out to the desktop plantation
>>102370712Lol lmao
>>102370764Yeah fair enough. Thanks
>built a ryzen 7700X today>for someone else, they be taking it in like a week>wanted to test how jellyfin performs on AMD>install win>install jellyfin as a service>turning off firewall>it crashes>crash in this case means - instant black screen, no reaction to keyboard or even reset button,>it does not even react to long press of the power button, there is very tiny change in fan noise>power consumption goes from 30-40W to 15W>happened later again when I started to copy some big movies over network>I updated the drivers to the latest for the NIC>crashes again later>ok its time for linux>to get that answer if its software issue or hardware issue>install endevour+kde>play around some, install jellyfin, cuz that was the plan>all is fine>for now no HW encoding on jellyfin>its fucking funny how 16 threads load up with just 2 streams>ok, lets follow some guides how to do HW encode in docker>it works, a movie plays, no cpu loaded...>crash>ok, lets try again... to see if its consistent>play a movie on a phone... crash within 30 secondsinteresting stuff.will try rollback bios to the one it came with and see if it does it still on commandI already turned off ram expo profiles from 6000 to default lowslater will test clean windows install without jellyfin foolerymaybe jellyfin is taxing igpu in some weird way when it wants that encodingmaybe will test with 4060 plugged in, that the build will go with in the endwill do some regular load tests and whatnotif still common crashes it likely is a faulty mobo, will be ordering new one on monday
>>102368549>I live in an area where the 4090 is bannedHad no clue>List of affected countries: Afghanistan, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Belarus, Burma, Cambodia, Central African Republic, China, Democratic Republic of Congo, Cuba, Cyprus, Egypt, Eritrea, Georgia, Haiti, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Kazakhstan, North Korea, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Lebanon, Libya, Macau, Moldova, Mongolia, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, South Sudan, Republic of Sudan, Syria, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, United Arab Emirates, Uzbekistan, Venezuela, Vietnam, Yemen, Zimbabwe
>>102370748no problem, bro.i just finished jacking off myself. felt great.
>>102370843works on my thinkstation p700never really seen that issue when i have jellyfin up
Any apples-to-apples CPU benchmarks that span several generations?I'm sitting on a 10600k and wondering if it's worth upgrading to 7800x3d now or to wait another gen or two.
>>102370843>>install winFound the problem, you retarded.
>>102370992If you continue reading it also breaks on Linux.
>>102371013>>install linux
>>102371013Ok, read the whole thing, it does sound like an actual issue.
>>102370506This isn't for myself, this is a look into what exactly the ps5 pro is, and how much that costs
>>102370992>Watches a fat thai woman pretend to be a retarded child for entertainment>calls others retarded
Is buying a steam deck better than getting a "gaming" mini pc? I want something to be able to handle medium to heavy games while also acting as a good pc for work / watching shows and movies / emulation
>>102371140steam deck is pretty weak being a couple years old portable optimized for 15w use
For RAM with the same company does anything besides the memory speed matter?The 6400MHz kit is just flat cheaper than the 6000MHz
Final check before I pull the trigger changed some things based on recommendations. Swapped out the 4070 super for 7900 GRE which seems to have identical or even better performance but 16gb instead 12gb and its also $100 cheaper.
>>102366789>Gaming: 7800X3DWhat games need this? How long until the 7600X is obsolete?
>>102371381Replace Gay-SUS with asrock b650E steel legend?
>>102371140It's lot more portable as a self-contained unit no matter how many mini pc nerds try to tell you their set up is.If you move around a lot like for work, travel, extended stays at multiple locations, then I'd say get it. I had one when my routine was like that and it was good but when I got tied to one location I sold it.
>>102371401Not him, but whenever I play City Skylines my CPU starts throttling. And I am using that same CPU.
>>102371347Speed and CAS Latency matters.
>>102371381You could just buy 2x16GB 6000 CL32 Flare-X for slightly lower price or you should OC those you listed because of how how memory frequency is tied to infinity fabric. Anus makes awful entry level motherboards, if you don't care about how your motherboard looks get AsRock B650 LiveMixer for the same price.Other than that no major complains.
i need good case something like supermicro server toweri need hdd hot swap bay with d00rzgive me suggestions cheap cool rareused or newdrop names
>>102371114obsessed
>>102371347The timings, in this case they're better as well. Might be a supply/demand thing but maybe check if the 6400 RAM has some issues on plebbit or something.
>>102371401Only extremely CPU heavy games (that also benefit from the extra cache), and a lot of those also play like garbage no matter what CPU you have (e.g., Dragon's Dogma 2)>>102371381Radeon is garbage. All new games are designed around reconstruction, and FSR is extremely ugly. The VRAM is irrelevant, or nearly so. Also make sure your PSU is ATX 3.0>>102370683Far worse. You don't pay that much money on a graphics card to have unusable RT and trash tier reconstruction, not to mention trash tier drivers and associated features (e.g., Reflex vs AntiLag2)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfI9rmTnxe8&t=331s>>102370351No
epic red arrow tovarisch
>>102371638Not every Zen4 CPU can handle 6400MT/s in 1:1 ratio without tweaking and faggots just try to enable XMP without knowing that.
>>102371620Cooler Master Stryker and/or Trooper.3x SuperMicro CSE-M35TQB in the 5.35" bays.Good luck trying to buy these though. I think the CM cases are discontinued and the caddies are expensive as fuck. Could probably get a cheap replica on Amazon though.
>>102371666Sure but you could just downclock it, if it's cheaper than the 6000 you don't lose anything.
>>102369289Pretty similar>>102369145Use Dell Optiplex 7050 Micro with an i7 7700T, 16 GB RAM, and an SSD>>102367876>The most demanding games are demanding because shit optimization and not fidelityI don't agree with this. There are a lot of games that have massive problems (e.g., Dragon's Dogma 2) and can therefore be considered """"demanding"""", but that's just shit optimization. The UE5 games that use hardware Lumen and Nanite are demanding because of the fidelity on display, although I'm sure UE5 is still in need of optimization
>>102371725True.But you would have to know it's an option, often people don't even enable XMP and run JEDEC which is funny because they paid for that OC profile and binning.
>>102367787>Which are the most demanding PC games atm?Cyberpunk 2077 with RT Overdrive (path tracing)Alan Wake II with path tracingStar Wars Outlaws with RTDIBlack Myth Wukong with RT
>>102371701fuck none on local marketthese look like they could go relatively for cheapthere are supermicro towers in my area but they cost one legthere was one for $150 and ever since i missed that deal i have been trying to cope since
>>102371774why would you turn path tracing on in AL2? they actually put effort in the game so it looks the same with or without PT
>>102371795well it does make a difference in placeslike indoors with the soft bounce lighting illuminating things with the right colors, mirrors working properly
>>102371701This case is sexo
>>102371620Gave up in that idea and buying a disk shelf. PowerEdge t430 also seems like a sweet option.
fucking ayymd man they were going so strong with RDNA2 and RDNA3 yet somehow they cucked themselves leaving the high end to jewvidia
>>102371638>>102371537Ok so presumably top left has the best CAS latency and right is 2nd best but still within the same ballpark?The price is basically indistinguishable and I imagine the performance differences between them are small enough to not bother thinking about.
>>102371795I'm someone who hates SSRRT/PT fixes ithttps://youtu.be/tXfwvohROPA?si=EaW1Ong6qBeJN95C&t=495
>>102371864what does it matter?
>>102371787Yeah, I know what you mean. I also missed a supermicro rack for like, $200.Anyways I guess browse cases that have 9 5.35" bays together. 3 of them converts to 5 3.5". So go for something like, 6 5.35" or 9.Try checking the chinkshit too. They sometimes make weird shit.
>>102371870this game is spooky as fuck
>>102371874there's no competition you retarded nigger, that's bad even if you're a jewvidia fanboy and Jensen's personal cock sucker
>>102371895there hasnt been competition for years
>>102371853Not that guy, but PowerEdge stuff is noisy as fuck. Not to mention all the OEM parts.
>>102371853there is poweredge t330 in my areaonly requirement i have is ssi eeb mobo form factor compatibleuse case is for workstation, thats why i dont want any external storage like nas or whatever, minimal setupi am going to bring in tons of data and going to be moving it daily
>>102371906Dell likes to skull fuvk people, yes.
>>102371815>here is your working mirror bro
>>102371620>>102371853I bought one of these which can hold a shit load of drivesIt's not hot swap but at the same time I didn't not like the idea of hunting down super specific parts 5-10 years down the line>>102371926It's basically every OEM that has their own parts if it's not specifically designed for DIY, not exclusive to dell
>>102371880i looked at fractal design r7 and othersit has a door but behind it is slot for cdrom and stupid fansi was wondering if it would be possible to make cutout for hot swap baysdont want to experiment on own and there were no search results for it of someone doing this before
>>102371919>moving it dailyWut?
>>102371347the 6400 40-40-40-84 kit is badthe 6400 32-39-39-84 kit is greatthe 6000 30-36-36-76 kit is greatlower timings at the same voltage equals higher quality RAM
>>102371945Bruh, instead just buy a Supermicro, netapp or some kind of disk shelf for the same price. Hot swap looks cool.
>>102371864No one bought high end RDNA3 (and you'd have to be a retarded to do so). AMD is making a smart play by focusing on monolithic midrange and lower, where most of the sales are and where the competition is more desperately needed.>>102371874It's true that Radeon has basically been price matching Nvidia while being vastly worse, but of course everyone hope that either AMD will price its worse products appropriately or better yet actually get gud and provide a second option. Personally there's nothing that could make me buy Radeon right now no matter how cheap it is, but there could be a future where FSR becomes on par with DLSS (XeSS is already fairly close), and Radeon's RT performance improves or at least is good enough to be usable in conjunction with its upsampling
>>102371764Sure, first time I built a PC I didn't get it either but there are so many guides available today that you're lazy not doing it.
>>102371948Why do you even need hotswap bays? You do know that not even large data companies swap HDDs every hour, right? And you realize that HDD SATA ports are only rated for 50 matings in their lifetime?
>>102371815>mirrors working properlyModern graphics are a fucking joke.
>>102371955moving information physically>>102372041i am the large data company now and i say hot swap
>>102370406Check to see if the workstation can use a generic PSU, anon. Many workstation class machines from HP and Dell have proprietary PSUs.>had to cut off the retention tabs from the Z840s PCI retainer to get the 4070S to fit but otherwise plug and play (after remembering to set bifurcation for the slot my m.2 adapter got moved to).
current monitor is failing so i need a new one, should i get another 1080p or go for a 1440p? my gpu is a 5700xt and have no intention of upgrading it
>>102372101well, are you fine not playing 3d AAA games at all?
>>102372082Oh, okay. Large data companies use rack servers.Get a rack server.
I want radeon to be better so I can buy nvidia for cheaper. Not that i'd ever consider buying radeon you understand.
>>102372124supermicro is rack mountable desktop toweri dont want a fucking rack i want computer on my desk
>>102372021Yeah that's fair, I got midrange 6700XT and guess a lot of people went that route for midrange and just jewvidia for highend. Hope they get their shit together and release something meaningful like Polaris back in the day
>>102371997I would but I'm not fond of the idea of paying for disk shelfs that has knocking around since the age of when 2TB HDDs where hot shit.I bought from a different listing, and it only ended up being $210 which aint bad imo, I've paid more for metal boxes
>>102372188Rack mountable is the ultimate case anon, I swear.If I could I'd rackmount all my towers but I can't get those cases in my shit world country
>>102372188Pick one, a computer on your desk or the ability to hotswap drives.You can't have both without scouring the market place for months. Good luck, I'm done.
>>102372217unfortunately i just need higher computing yield machine than my thinkpadi would get a rack if i had use case for more computers
>>102372241>You can't have both without scouring the market place for monthsi could also make my own case from aluminiumwhich is last resort plan
>>102372101honestly I can't get a 1440p monitor because only 24" fits my desk.if you want a 1440p monitor, go ahead, you could even go for a really shitty mini led monitor with 500 zones (macbook pro had 10k zones and people railed it for the halo effect).But good mini-led is as expensive as OLED, and same could be said about good VA / IPS (people genuinely don't notice the difference between IPS and OLED when you are not looking at the monitor in the dark).Also your monitor might not be failing, could be something else, make sure to test.
>>102372241>>102372278Here you tardshttps://www.amazon.com/anidees-Raider-XL-Tempered-Radiator/dp/B09NPJ554BYou can fit 2 4-bay hot swap cages stock but should be able to do 3 or even 4 if you remove the PSU shroud
>>102369012I don't think so. Some newer mobos have that pcie release on the side of the board instead of right at the slot.
>BUY OLED MONITOR>ITS LEE GOOD!
>>102372383well if one anon said it it must be true!
>>102372337No featured offers availableThis item cannot be shipped to your selected delivery location. Please choose a different delivery location.another non existant case
>>102372503So you're not in the US then
>>102372530yep, also never use stuff like amazon or newegg
Elite 4chan hackeru, how do I get free windows 11?
>>102372552I haven't had much issue with either but you do you
>>102372592nice modding desugoing to take note of printing out a headphone stand when my north xl arrives
I love triple fan designs for GPUs that don't need itFans get to 30% max and peak at like 65c, very comfy
just built a new pc and thought I bent the pins or something because I had a steady red and yellow light on start up. Turns out it was a schoolboy error. I put the ram in 1/3 instead of 2/4. Your permission to bully me itt is given.
>>102372306>I can't get a 1440p monitor because only 24" fits my deskThere are a few 24" 1140p monitors like AOC Q24G2A, for example.
>>102372641>anon didn't RTFM
>>102372697>1140pI meant 1440p of course.
>>102372566Friendly windows general
>>102372641should still boot in 1/3though maybe i'm too used to DDR4 to understand how finicky DDR5 is
RX 6400 successor when
>>102372160If Radeon is good enough and cheap enough I will buy it, and I have before. Admittedly I consider my launch RX 470 a mistake, as Radeon's DX11 driver constantly fucked its performance. I know a lot more now, and I know what I want from a graphics card.Old time stamp but I'm not sure I even have the box anymore
>>102366932>not having ECC RAMspathetic
>>102371701>>102371822careful CM like the cunts they are revised the case to replace all the drive bays with a radiator mount
lian li 011 dynamic evo is the most kino case of all time
Is there anything you guys would change here?
>>102366789budget: $1000country: mericause: gamingmy friend needs his first gaming pc.
>>102373074you don't need a liquid cooler when the pump will fail before the fansthe micro pro rs runs way hotter than the regular b650 pro rs without an Mget the 990 pro instead or wd 850xpotentially wait for the 5080 because current gen is gimped on purpose
Corsair 3000D or Montech Air 900 Mesh? (Same price, locally)
This is what I've gathered after lurking the thread for a couple of days. I though about getting the RX 7700 or 7800 XT since I'm keeping my 1080p monitor for now, but I want to have some leeway in case I finally buy a new one. Also, I want to try out the ray tracing even if it's just a meme and I've read that AMD cards have worse performance.
>>102373114>wait for the 5080how retarded would it be if I bought a cheaper "placeholder" gpu instead
>>102373114>you don't need a liquid cooler when the pump will fail before the fansHe doesn't need a liquid cooler because the CPU is capped at 88W.>the micro pro rs runs way hotter than the regular b650 pro rs without an M88W>get the 990 pro instead or wd 850xThey're fungible. Buy the cheaper one.>potentially wait for the 5080 because current gen is gimped on purposeI suppose. Next gen is half a year away tho.
>>102373074Looks good. Here's some comments:>CoolerDefinitely not necessary for that CPU. It's hardcapped under 100W which is easily done on air. Noting wrong with overkill cooling ofc just a good place to cut if you need to.>MoboIf you plan on using WiFi as a matter of course, get a dedicated AX210 card. Might cost £10 more overall but it'll beat the hell out of that Mediatek chipset.>RAM and SSDCould price-shop these a bit.>PSUThe RMe is kind of crappy for what you pay. It's perfectly safe but has reports of coil whine and is cost-cut compared to previous RM units (Teapo caps, cheaper fan, etc).
>>102366789I don't want to change platform, I want to stick to AM4 until this shit is not usable anymore.so please tell me whats the best thing I could do to upgrade this shit.CPU: R5 3600 OC'd @ 4,2ghzRam: 2x8gb Corsair Vengeance LPX CL16@ 3200mhzMobo: Asus Strix B550-F Gaming Wi-fiGPU: EVGA RTX 3080ti FTW3 Should I just save up for a 5950X or just slap a 5800X3D and forget about it?
>>102373142In general it looks decent. There are some changes I'd suggest though.>CPUGet the 7600 if it's cheaper. Same chip.>RAM6000C30 kits should be about the same price. C32 is still probably Hynix but it's not a sure thing.>SSDI would spend a little more here to get something with guaranteed TLC NAND.>CardBe aware that the Ventus model is pretty loud unless power limited. You're buying a big CPU cooler so noise seems to be a factor.
>>102373413Yeah 5*00X3D and 32GB of RAM. You don't really need a new card right now (unless you're going to 4k) so I'd leave that as-is at least until next gen.
How long does the windows hack from github that's posted on here actually work before Microcuck wants me to pay?
Really only the 4090 is good enough for 4K with DLSS
Won a raffle that gives me 14900KS + Z790 AORUS MASTER bundle for 500€Do people still actually buy Intel CPUs, sell or keep for myself?
>>102373555>cyberjunkk
Going from a 3600 and intel 600p to a 7800x3d and 990 pro has given BIG LEAGUE performance bros. Didn't change my gpu and the improvement alone is insane.
>>102373555Who would have possibly thought that a poorly optimised janky mess would have high technical requirements?
I have a spare m.2 slot, what's the best budget 2tb drive?
>>102373853I don't agree that it's poorly optimized. In fact for what it offers, it's one of the best optimized games out there (e.g., in terms of CPU core loading). On launch it had problems, but that was years ago, and there have been massive patches including an expansion
>>102373934or higher than 2tb
>>102366789Have the following CPU and mobo combos, both have 8gb of ram. Also have some 10+ year old GPU. Which should I put some extra money into to use as a basic media/browsing machine?i7 2600Asus p8p67i5 6400Gigagyte ga h170 gaming 3
Not looking good
aaaaaaghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, recommend me a cheap 2-3tb m.2
>>102374024
I picked up a bigger case that I can hide an HDD in. I'm only interested in using SSDs for the system, but could I hide an HDD down there as a backup? Would that be pretty easy to setup?
>>102373934>>102373956Do know that some motherboards lower the speeds of other PCIe lanes if certain M2 slots are populated.Check your motherboard's data sheet to check.Get a Crucial P3. They're cheap and fast enough.
>>102374148Backup? NoExtra storage? Sure. 22TB HDDs exists. Even 12TB ones are very affordable now.
>>102374024the fuck
>>102374174No i didn't know that. I have an MSI b650 gaming plus wifi.
>>102374184Oh okay, I've been meaning to start hoarding. I'll probably toss one down there and see where things go. Thanks.
>>102374174>Crucial P3The P3 is garbage. The P3 Plus is decent but there's no reason to buy it unless you're buying the 4 TB model
>>102373973i5, RAM is honestly fine if you don't want to buy more. Make sure you have an SSD
>>102373934sn580
>>1023739351. As a matter of principle, I refuse to engage with the premise that cyberpunk is good. People spent too long dickriding it before it was released when I was already uninterested and then it turned out that CDPR were just blatantly lying through their teeth about both what the game was and how the game ran. I also just like being smug.2. Balanced CPU core loading represents good architectural optimisation, but not necessarily good practical optimisation. There's a hard limit to the performance impact that can have of 1 order of magnitude and that's only if you're already cpu limited on a task that can be multithreaded. I suspect that for most people at their desired settings the game will be gpu limited instead unless they really cheaped out
>>102373428>get something with guaranteed TLC NANDWhat I found is almost double the cost. Is it really worth it?>the Ventus model is pretty loud>You're buying a big CPU cooler so noise seems to be a factorI honestly didn't even consider the manufacturer when picking the GPU and I just chose the cooler mentioned in the other OP. The Asus Dual EVO and the EVO OC are around the same price, I'll look up some reviews and check if someone complains about the noise.Thanks for your input, anon.
I used thishttps://github.com/massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-ScriptsHow long until I get screwed by Jeetosoft?
>>102374420never
Opinions? I already have the SSDs and GPU, ordered the CPU for under 300e, also dunno to get either 32 or 64GB RAM. The reason I'm building now is because my current PC is dying and I'm looking to build a portable PC since I'm not fond of laptops. Country: Netherlands. I will get new SSDs and GPU later, this is just for start. Additional question, what position is the best for mini PC during transport: upward position in a backpack or downward position that motherboard is at the bottom?
>>102374442How do you know? You wouldn't lie to me, would you?
>>102374457You don't need 64gb of ram. If you did you'd know and not be uncertain.
>>102374420are you running a company that makes a profit? if not then Microsoft doesn't consider you worth their time. if you are then you have until you hire someone who sells you out to Microsoft license police for a bounty
This is the last time I buy an mAtx board and struggle for hours to plug shit in because my hands are huge
>>102374644or, I guess revenue, not profit. Microsoft will certainly go after unprofitable startups
>>102374646How is this a motherboard issue and not case issue?
>>102374200Oooooooookay. Stop there. If you're hoarding and not actually going to use the data then you're better off NOT plugging it internally and use an external disk drive. Because whenever you boot your PC that HDD will spin up degrading it. If you're hoarding and not using the data it;s better for the drive to be left in cold storage. If you do access the data, like once every month then sure, plug it in.
>>102374313>What I found is almost double the cost. Is it really worth it?Not really. TLC just lasts a lot longer when it comes to writes. Reading data in QLC is fine. If you don't see yourself writing terabytes of data every week then you're fine with going for a cheaper drive. Crucial P3 is a good middle ground imo.
>>102374762I could use a place to store my frogs and some other media(I back up quite a few youtube videos that I know will be removed at some point in the future). The only thing stopping me from going crazy is that I don't want all of that on an ssd. I'll give it a shot.
>7950xd3 at 100%>only 69-73C tempsfeelsgoodman
>>102374148Nothing wrong with HDDs for bulk data
>>102374878/g/ is a nand only board
>>102374952>>102374952>>102374952
>>102374854I have around 120TB of raw storage because I also hoard a bunch of shit. Speaking off, I think I need to add more space. I'm down to around 10TB left.
>>102374896Nothing wrong with spinning rust in some form of RAID
>>102366789My HDD is dying on me after 8 years, fucking gets loud when I download or it rides anything over 2GB.This is my 2nd HDD in 16 years from Western Digital that dies due to faulty reading. Thank god I will upgrade my system and will buy a SSD.Also funny how I rekted 1 PSU, 1 GPU and 2 HDDS in 16 years but my shitty i3 CPU, motherboard and RAM still works after 13 years.
>>102374980sister...HDDs are only expected to have 5 years in them. Hell, even big cloud services trash their HDD after 4 years.
>>102374777>Crucial P3Sounds good to me. The Plus one is not even that expensive.I've done some searching and people seem to like the Asus EVO. My only concern left is the cpu cooler getting in the way of the ram, but apparently it's not an issue.Many thanks again
Okay I'm getting a WD blue as my shitter second m.2
anons, what is a good benchmark or test to run that lets me know where my graphics bottleneck is?
I'm glad the SSD autist exists https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B27_j9NDPU3cNlj2HKcrfpJKHkOf-Oi1DbuuQva2gT4/edit?gid=0#gid=0
>>102375141Whatever game you're having trouble running + RTSSFull (or nearly full) GPU utilization means a GPU limit, GPU underutilization means CPU limit