How to request advice:>Budget>Intended use (media, source, environment)>Frequency response preference and music examples>Past gear and your thoughts on themFAQ:>Where do I buy IEMs?Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio>Shopping Guide (IEMs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):https://rentry.org/consoomer_guide>EQ Guide (Measurements, Targets, Equalizer, etc.):https://rentry.org/IEM-EQ-Guide>Frequency Response Graph Toolsquig.link>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:• EPZ Q1 Pro / G10 (Harman) - $35• TRN Conch (bright V) - $35• Kefine Delci (bassy neutral) - $75• Simgot EA500LM (bright V) - $90>Bullet IEMs:• Final E500 (dark) - $25• Tanchjim One DSP (neutral) - $30>Flathead Earbuds:• Blue Vido (warm) - $5• Faaeal Iris 2.0 (warm) - $10>USB-C DACs:• Moondrop Dawn Pro - $50• Tanchjim Space - $90• Tempotec Sonata BHD Pro - $90• Qudelix 5K - $110>PMPs:• Shanling M0s - $100• Hifi Walker H2 / Surfans F20 (Rockbox) - $120• HiBy M300 - $200• Hidizs AP80 Pro-X - $200• Tempotec V3 - $200Previous thread: >>102369154
The canonical reference, from the guy who actually made it. When people ask about the "new meta", please just send them thishttps://youtu.be/EZoKPtzjdtQ
Anyone own a supermix 4 here? Im looking some eq to boost the bass and lower the treble.
finally good news for this general! after years of hearing intense treble peaks from chifi iems you can recover a bit back of your hearing
recently I've been into the most cheesy cliches and fads that made the 90's music and apparently died along with that decade, which makes it even more special and unique>eurodance>nu-italo dance (Eiffel65, Gigi d'Agostino etc.)>Enya/Enigma-style new age>new jack swing>whatever this is: https://youtu.be/UmDK21_tz0U (probably some kind of techno, maybe some anon knows the name of this genre)what would be some of the best IEMs for this feel under $100? not a formal advice request, it's more for an exchange of opinions due to quite diverse set of genres
do I get the truthear novas or something else
>>102398040something else
>>102398040>or something elseyes
>>102398076>>102398077okay but what do I get then
>>102398097what's your budget
>>102398040Nova. Unless you have small ears
>>102398116under $200 would be preferable but it's whatever, just trying not to resort to totl pos or kilobuck stuff
>>102398148for me, it's the dunu falcon ultrawait for a 11.11 sale
>>102397900Thank you, that video was very informative. Not have watched this video should be a new entry on the list of sins. Btw the list should be added to the gazette.
If I put the tone generator at squig.link at 2 kHz and set the volume so that the tone is loud but comfortable, i.e. it's not ear-piercing; then an IEM sounds good if I can press the right arrow key to increase the frequency until 20 kHz without the tone getting uncomfortable at any point.It works with Etymotics without any EQ applied (there's only some minor bump at 14.4 kHz); all other pos that I tried will sound too loud at some frequencies. If I apply an EQ to make the sine sweep sound good, then 100% of the time (so far) the pos also sounded better when listening to music.The only difficult thing about this is to find the right Q value for the peaking filters, but there is the formula Q = center_frequency / frequency_range, so by estimating the frequency range it's possible to find a good q value.
>>102398148Supermix 4
>>102398382you mean Superhearingdamage 4
>>102397900tl;dr it's bad
just got a set of KBEAR 07s and Tri Clarions on a sale, can't go wrong with those for tip rolling, right?
>>102398972no that's divinus velvet
>>102398010then do it>>102398034there is no seeking out a "perfect" sound for such variety of genres. you get a generalist, well-tuned pair to serve as your jack-of-all>>102398972sure they're fine. tip autism is near infinite but as someone who has a lot including "premoum" priced tips, kbear07 style works like a charm 80% of the time
S12 Pro is goated.
what is the chan review on Hifiman Svanar Wireless IEMs?
https://rentry.org/iemgazettegeneral rules for the comparison database have been updated
>new meta is jm-1 tilted>E500 is (almost) exactly thisAre bullets superior?
>>102398040If you can get them for 100 or less get the novapos. They might ravage your ears if they're small.
>>102399437Many bullets graph well but then you put them on and hear pure ass. Chuzo started with tanchjim bullets, a complete waste of time.
>>102398382aren't these a meme? they seem like they have a harsh treble and are inverted polarity (?)
>>102399437>mfw when cringable now has a proper squig.link-powered pos database instead of relying on his paid shit
Lord Greyrat and Chuzo were right all this time, you can be content with a $20 pos, while everything more expensive is mainly for those who are adventurous in this hobby/consumption cycle/whatever
Opinions on Japanese IEMs like Acoustune and Intime? I can barely find reviews on their IEMs.
>>102400117some intime stuff is tuned half decent. acoustune is undampened resonating overpriced meme with beyblade design
Reminder to go to the final audio store in Japan and get your HRTF scanned and measured
>>102399960You can be "content" or you can realize paying for massive shells and distorting drivers is a scam.
I'm a normie retard who doesn't know shit about this stuff. Recommend me some IEMs for casual usage.>want to spend under $100>will use for listening to music from my FiiO chinkpod, playing games on my emulation handheld, light laptop usage>prefer all around neutral sound. just as long as it isnt shitty>I use AirPods (gen 3) almost every day and they sound okay-ish. have some old Bose QCs that I'm fine with but they're clunky and make my ears hurt after a while
>>102400188forgot to add the most important thing: I really need an actual headphone jack again. fuck wireless (((bluetooth))).
>>102400178Oy vey
>>102400188pick something from op. most can be ordered from amazon, ez return if you dont like it. delci or ea500lm
>>102400188Truthear Gate; they are cheap and have a fairly neutral sound, i.e. not overly warm or v-shaped. Can be a bit hot in the upper mid/lower treble area, but it's only 20 bucks. The cable is very nice and they come with a bag that isn't too bad.
>>102400235I feel like such a fucking boomer saying this but it's really incredible to me how refined technology has gotten these days. A decade ago $20 sound gear would be destitute nigger tier.
>>102400178only if they offer their pos in versions that are tuned to my individual response of 5128 diffuse field with room curve, a.k.a. the Meta target
>>102397900I hope one day OP will fix the shitty reccs and labels since none can be called "neutral" following this video and the EPZs aren't even Harman.
>>102400455harman ie is a shit target
>>102400188Kefine delci or simgot em6l
>>102400235I have a white Gato and they sound incredibly boring, but that indeed might mean it's neutral and I just don't enjoy that.
>>102400296NO! It's bullshit! Techs=price! You can't have better IEMs for lower price EVER!! Today's $20 IEMs are equally shitty as what was $20 decades ago!! It's ABSOLUTE! Techs are measured in USD, is the definite measuring unit!! Go buy Thieaudio prestige LTD!!!!1
>>102400455that would leave only Lan and Hexa, maybe Salnotes Zero 1 for a brighter flavor for cheap
>>102400188KZ EDC Pro + EQ is all you need
>>102400477ok but why label it harman
>>102400562probably cause it follows the general outline of the curve and is not trying to match some other common target. not saying that the recs in the op are good, but that frequency response looks like something people would generally consider harman tuning, just a bad implementation of it that most likely sounds even worse
Actually techs are measured in hiss. Holy hissblaster, worst hiss I've heard in years on a dedicated audio device. It's still not that bad but you get what you pay for. Most of my other daps are less hissy, only the agptek rocker was worse, that thing was legitimately unusable. I'm gonna 3D print a 4.4mm adapter for this thing, I'll probably just toss a few resistors inline while I'm at it to get rid of the hiss.Glad I lucked out with the USB C version unlike that other anon, if the micro usb version has a worse dac I hesitate to imagine how bad the hiss would be.
for wireless ultimately disposable cheap earbuds what are my options that dont sound completely shit, something moondrop space travel tier but not that cause the shallow fit sucks for me
>>102400654>overpriced gear>shit tier musicthe stars align once again
>>102400687>the shallow fit sucks for memost tws suffer from this bs for some reason
>>102400725>xe can't appreciate good musicskill issue 2bh
>>102400654it's true only if hiss is euphonic, because by definition, techs = euphonic distortion
>>102399628mfw headpos show still doesn't use squig because it can't show their retarded preference bounds meme.
Saw a post on leddit showcasing tanchjim kara. It looks nice, but how does it sound? Thoughts on that iem?
>>102399622Inverted polarity is a sharur meme. Fixable by inverting the cable.
>>102400831listener's tool (the ugly fag from hp.com) has a bunch of tweaks that allow it so it's def a weird decision to make their own tool from the ground up
>>102400498Anything with midbass above Harman will sound incredibly boring.
>>102399622>>102400896Nobody else has ever said it had inverted polarity. Nor does it say so on the produxct page so I really dont know whether it is an actual issue or if he got a broken pair.Also why is everyone here allergic to EQ?
Friendly reminder, the Kara is the best hybrid, S12 pro is the best planar, and origin is the best dynamic
>>102401004Hi-Fri sometimes pointed out inverted polarity and said that it's a deliberate and valid tuning choice
>>102401020All obsoleted by fox IEM.
>>102401020>Kara is the best hybridHexa is the best hybrid, it had new meta tuning when it wasn't even meta
>>102401080>New meta ear rape Yuck
>>102401088>more mid-bass and less upper mid/lower treble is earraperetardation
>>102401080Boring flat garbage
>>102401101In a couple month you won't even find anything that's not JM-1 tuned, neutral won
>>102401100Sorry I mixed up the Nova and Hexa, I have the Hexa and Kara's and like both a lot
jm1 is the exact opposite of shartman, where shartman is thin and shouty jm1 is bloated and muddy
>>102401004Even if it is inverted and if you can hear the difference there's no "correct" polarity, not for every track. And even if you know the correct polarity for every track you can fix it by inverting the cable. If the cable has earhooks you can remove the earhooks. If you don't want to remove the earhooks you can invert it in software. A complete and utter non-issue fixable for $0 in 5 minutes.
>>102401138What if not all drivers are inverted?
>>102401130Sharur target is the best of both worlds unironically.>>102401080Hexa has terrible drivers, borderline unfixable IEM.
>>102401157shartur target is the worst of both worlds because its made by a stinking jeet
>>102401109finally
>>102401150Then you use the bass driver as the reference because absolute polarity above bass is inaudible.
>>102401157>Hexa has terrible driversit's because it's a hybrid with BAs
>>102401080Sold my Hexa cause that shit was hot garbage.
>after years of argument and Harman shout tuned POS the meta returned to neutral tuningEty autists winning as usual
>>102401161I made it two years before sharur, you can borrow it.
>>102401080Hexa is just a shit Kara, worse design, worse drivers
>>102401188iirc the dd in the hexa has correct polarity, and only a couple ba's are inverted. That means all the 'Hexa bad because inverted polarity' is just a meme?
>>102401208then why did you name it after a street shitter
>>102401064>>102401138The problem is that I also saw some reviewer say there isnt anything wrong with the polarity (when asked about it by someone talking about sharur's video). So I'm not sure if Simgot just made two versions or it's a qc issue on their reviewer pairs.
>>102401064he can't even match channels or tune either, useless opinion
>>102401020>S12 proAren't Letshuoers metal shells? Won't they get fucked by moisture like most metal shells would?
>>102401214>>102401218Hexa is bad because the BA is not high-passed. The polarity is irrelevant.
>>102401217To gatekeep.
>>102401197There is an interesing comment under that new meta video by the creator of the JM-1 target:>Because Etymotic's target was also based on the 711 measurements, you end up with a result that is quite far off from what their actual design goal was. Additionally, because a lot of Etymotic IEMs use a single BA driver, we now know they roll-off in the bass significantly more than you'd see in a 711 measurement. If you like the bright signature of the Etymotic target, I'd try JM-1 with less of a slope and bass shelf than is normally used.Ety sisters, we lost, too...
>>102401272well you succeeded in gatekeeping people who don't shit on streets, congrats
>>102401252Shuoer puts a hydrophobic coating inside of it, only Moondrop struggles with moisture because they're retarded
>>102401289Speaking of S12, what's the difference between S12, S12 Pro and S12 2024? Hard to tell desu
>>102401330slight tuning differencesnone are worth it anyway cause they are all trebly messes
>>102401330S12 Pro is just S12 with medium density tuning foams inside nozzles and the fancy Chimera cable instead of the basic one, not sure about what exact changes were made to 2024ed. aside from new titanium shells, which by itself has some impact on the sound for sure
is Hifiman's Svanar LE Wireless IEM any good?i generally don't trust Reddit reviews but this pair looks good and they are on clearance ATMcan i get cheaper better wireless iems for less elsewhere?
Got this for my dad a month back. Got some flaws in its sound but it's still great as a whole package. Small metal housing, decent cable and tips. V-shape sound sig done tastefully. One major con is that its bass comes across a bit poofy with less than ideal impact. The treble is also a bit bright for my taste but it's much more tolerable than say the 7hz zero (which had a nasty spike around 12khz to my ears).Good one from moondrop.
>>102401428>Hifiman Lmao
>>102401445LMAO
>>102401428Terrible. Doesn't even have wires.
>>102401500it has batteries that will die in a few years though, excellent way to get a bit of a thrill to your life and an opportunity to show filthy poorfags the power of your wallet when you buy a new pair
>>102401432What did he say about the waifu box?
>>102398972Vouching for kbears as well, they're well-made, fit nicely (even my freakishly large ear canals) and don't change the sound too much compared to average silicone tips. Well, I haven't A/B them directly but holy shit, if there's no immediate and noticable change in sound then I don't care.
>>102401695Kbear is just rebranded KZ slop
>>102401610i just wanted something without the tangle and for easy listening on the goi don't really need em as i have trp60s at home and some momentum iems and momentum two headphones at home for when I'm in bed using my phonewireless sounds nice but for like $500 cad, I want 4chan's approval before i spend it on some China made nice lookin IEMs with a fancy namejust cuz it's on clearance, I figured it wouldn't hurt to ask
>>102401725I was taking about EAR TIPS you FUCKING GORILLA > KZ slop This is a 2$ pair of SILICONE EAR FUCKING TIPS, what do (You) even mean by this, RETARD
>>102401234Here it is correctly normalized. Still measures mediocre thoughbeit
>>102401428>>102401736Their IEMs are usually kinda weird and wonky (aside from RE400, and even those are absolutely MOGGED by any of the 2023-2024 offerings under $20). I'd rather grab new airpods pro or galaxy buds 3 pro, depends on what phone you're using, they're both around $250, sound decent-to-good and have a shitton of features.
final audio e3000 should i take it or not
>>102401342so they are basically same as KZ planars but at 5x the price?
>>102401432>Got some flaws in its sound but it's still great as a whole package.Hahahaha what a troll. Your dad will need to deal with the channel dying from moisture build-up clogging the filter up, green oxidated nozzle, paint flaking...Chuzo was a bad faith troll...
>>102402024with EQ? sure, very comfy and smoothwithout EQ? too bloated, there are better optionsQC and matching are concerning tho, only buy it from amazon
>>102402038not the same but they are unrefined, S08 seemingly has got his shit together in that department
>>102402063Not everyone is living in a humid third-world country
>>102402199your ears are a humid third world country chud
zero vs zero 2?
>>102402542getting raped vs getting murdered
>>102397813>Moondrop Dawn Pro - $50Is this still the go to recommendation for USB c dac in this price range? My apple dongle shit out a couple months ago and I'm tired of using these shitty bt headphones my sister gave me.
>>102402644Why not Abigail or other no name cx31993 dong?
>>102402542I want to say Zero 2 and buy myself a pair, but worse treble extension than the first one killed it for me
>>102402644The build quality is ass. If you don't use balanced cable or want something cheap, jcally jm12 or fiio ja11. If you use planar or other hard to drive pos, just get something with a dual cs43131 setup like epz tp20 pro or dunu dtc480
>>102401273The reasons why Etys stand out have nothing to do with FR
>>102402689Impatience, I want something I can get off Amazon. Which also goes for >>102402764, too. Why is none of this shit on Amazon >:( No name chinkshit sure, but fiio???
>>102401273after sufficient amount knowledge about the actual perception of neutral audio gets gathered and stops being a moving target like it is now after introducing the room curve and recently JM-1, etymotic might make new ERs with whatever meta there would be and more bass than their current XR line, it's not a company to cash on FOTMs but at some moment it will have to reactwhat we need is the new studio reference, because ER4SR with its old flatbass neutral tuning is pretty much obsolete and holds up only because it's the reference model everyone picks
>>102402874Nothing showed up when you search alc5686, cx31993, or cs43131 dac?
>>102403012Yeah I figured it out, I found one with a CX31993 but apparently ali is having some fall sale and the fiio was six bucks so I just figured I'd order that and be patient. When I googled it I read a lot of glowing reviews, including the built in PEQ which is very attractive for that price.
>>102402644I just ordered the Moondrop May instead, reviews seem to be positive and the waifu box looks great
>>102402689The hiss.
>>102397900Interesting information, but for me preference is definitely not the same as neutral.
>>102403377actually if we take majority of people into account, neutral is not the most preferred tonality for sure, maybe for audio enthusiasts this is the case but there's a reason most consumer-oriented earphones are strongly V-shaped, it's what most people like, the instant big wow effect made by the emphasis on bass and treble to listen to EDM, pop-rock and other radio-friendly songs with jumpy, bouncy, dynamic sound, while mids, which are underappreciated and thought of as boring, can be safely recessedeven shartman right after discovering the room curve outright stopped caring about being neutral at all and opted for getting somewhere between V-shape and U-shape only to appeal to the wide audience
>>102403377>>102403472the speaker research is pretty clear on this; neutrality and preference are essentially the same.until there's a better, more thorough and widespread study, all of these statements are simply conjectures and anecdotes that do not carry nearly the same weight.
>>102397900Youd think the "neutral" curve would've been solved something like you first having speakers that simply produce a flat sound, you measure it and see yep the computer says the amount of energy at these fq are correct. Then use that speaker to play a file of all frequencies and theres a mic in your ear next to your eardrum, and since the speaker plays a flat sound that distortion from the head must be the headphone target curve.And for iems that skip the outer ear you just play a sound inside the ear canal. idk, is asking thousands of people for their preference really the only way to get the data?
>>102403526only for those who know what good speakers sound like at all, what most people know is speakers built into their TVs, laptops and smartphones and aren't tech- or audio-savvy enough (or at all) to change this, therefore preferred doesn't inherently mean neutral and for most people this is not the case
not exactly an iem question but i dont know where else to askshould i get the sennheiser cx plus true wireless or the galaxy buds FE? both cost the same and i cant buy chinkshit so these seem like the only two contenders for wireless earbuds in my price range
>>102403623get the FE, much better sound and repairable
>>102403573The problem is we don't have good measurements at the eardrum and that the brain subtracts "the room" from the sound and leaves raw tonality and sense of direction. There's no sense of direction in headphones(and in speakers in an anechoic chamber) so we must figure out what that raw tonality is. The best guess currently is DF since it's the kind of sound you get when the sound comes equally from every direction but it needs so many adjustments to sound good that it's probably not it.
>>102403608those people are considered noise because their judgements and ratings are too inconsistent. it's been shown that as people are trained in their analytical listening skills, their preference converge towards neutrality>>102403573what anon said is pretty much itdiffuse field is for now the best sound field approximation for iems and headphones, not too dissimilar to measuring speakers anechoically. for both systems, adjustments are necessary; for speakers, this comes in the form of room tilt, and for headphones/iems, in the form of similar tilts combined with varying levels of bass amplification.
>>102403653only if you use a samsung (phone)
>>102400654Got me fucked up listening to weeb shit, you gay as hell nigga, you got no shame
>>102403749or have a way to activate SBC-XQ which is as good as AptX HD and SSC
>>102403526I'm talking about IEMs and headphones. It's easy to EQ to neutral and see if you like it or not, so I don't care what you say the research is.
>>102403962define neutral
>>102404000the position of the gears in a vehicle when they are not connected to the engine
>>102404175nigga you retarded
https://youtu.be/yygQM7IgcVsHITLER IS DEAD
>>102404467nvm he uploaded a new one already fuckin kek
>>102404467>>102404475bros playing 4D chess
Neutral is when speakers. IEMs and headphones can't be neutral.
>>102404633Wrong. Just use EQ.
I been preaching late pinna gain like the one in Hype 4 for years and now its "the new meta"Yall should listen to the techs guy when he speaks
hype4 = tinnitus
>>102397813>>Flathead Earbuds:>• Blue Vido (warm) - $5>• Faaeal Iris 2.0 (warm) - $10Are these recs up to date? Anything take the flathead world by storm the past 2 years?
>>102405136>OP reccsthey are all outdated and mislabeled you better off going to the head-fi earbuds round-up thread
>>102405188damn, and i take it there's generally not much flathead discussion around here?
>>102405288no, the people here are all sinners
>>102405136just use whatever impressions and measurements of earbuds are for the most part useless because a) the listener is retarded, and b) the measurer is retarded
>>102405346oh i see. might go with the yincrow x6 and hope the mic's not unusable.thanks anon
>>102404889the new meta is retarded shit for mudsharks
editor here with a few updatesim testing the "POS Series", short for Person/Photo of Significance, where important/hallmark persons/photos from /iemg/ are immortalized. think of it like a museum.for the photo category, any photo bearing significant history is valid, after which the photo will be placed in a permanent section of the gazette.for the person category, a timestamped pic bearing a notable and unique trait of their presence in /iemg/ is required; the photo and the accompanying post message will be placed in a permanent section of the gazette.let me know if this idea is pos or pos.>looking for anythingthe archive is now up and running in a mega folder for now. file organization is in "beta" for now. better to get it going when there are few pics in case feedback demands change. the /hpg/ papers/books archive will also be included soon.>looking for the "squig scrape" that someone did a while back>looking for more measurements, especially the earbuds one with different seals>looking for the "List of sins"alright thats it, i hope the few of you that are actually interested enjoy!
new idea... canjam meet up
>>102405937please dont
>>102405937so we all getting together to beat the shit out of s*int right?
>>102405937even better idea: /iemg/ meetup at Crinacle's hangout
>>102404475>headpos sucks>so I downloaded some shitware and dialed fidelity up to 11 and it sounds great
this subwoofer with truthear gate is so good :3
>>102406422You only have 2 ears sir. Where does that plug into?
>>102406588ask s*int or fox anon
>>102405850>looking for the "List of sins"Saw it last posted on 25 Jun 2024. Here it is:/iemg/'s threadly sins:>being a retard>making any list other than this one>believing in driver type and source memes, reviews/reviewers, ranking lists, etc.>not understanding science>asking imprecise, general, idiotic questions>frogposting and/or replying to bait/shilling/schizoposts>commenting on objective sound quality without owning/experiencing a calibrated 2.1 speaker setup in a properly treated room>not being a Harman trained listener>using AutoEQ and/or not using EQ by ear>doing flawed listening tests>confusing music creation with reproduction>arguing over two completely different audio experiences>thinking that anything other than fit/comfort, distortion, and FR matters in terms of sound quality>believing more expensive = better, or that there is a correlation between price and sound quality>debating for the sake of debating>consuming without purpose>buying badly engineered, expensive sets for sound quality >talking about highly subjective topics (some aspects of comfort, sound localization, etc)>making bad analogies>using vague terms to describe quantifiable phenomena >idolizing schizos>using improper, "general" surround sound virtualization>not knowing how to use the Internet in 2023>talking about IEMs you have never used/owned (exception for broad statements about sound quality with graphs for reference)>thinking a headpos can be anywhere as good as a properly EQed pos>listening to formats above 48 kHz / 16 bit>not enjoying your music>misspelling words (Harmon, timber, etc)>watching sound demos (can't believe I actually have to include this one)>not reading the OP>making unnecessary changes to the OP>posting pics without cleaning the pos/tips (are you retards this fucking stupid?)>not owning an Etymotic model*>giving thoughts/impressions on an IEM without pictures showcasing its dimensions and possible size comparisons*
>>102406739Actually I updated the 'listening to formats above...' from '44.1/16 CD' to '48 kHz / 16 bit' because there is nothing wrong with it, and downsampling from 96 kHz to 48 kHz should be preferred to downsampling to 44.1 kHz afaik, at least this is how I handle it.
>>102406739wow that was quick, thanks a lot>>102406775thats a reasonable change, i dont think whoever wrote this would be against it
>>102406739i do all of this thoughbeit
>>102406801I think the idea of archiving valuable information from iemg is a good idea. I agree with a lot of things from the list, so I thought it might be a good idea to add it. Maybe we could have the list in the gazette and update it there, instead of posting a new version once in a blue moon in iemg directly.For the first entry of 'Person of Significance' I vote for Chuzo. Someone needs to search the archive for his best posts and then immortalize him in the gazette.
truthear hexa still good for price?
Using Boom 3D's fidelity setting turned to maximum completely transforms headphone listening and presents music with similar timbre as an amazing speaker system
>>102406962I think it is. For me, its biggest flaw is that it's rather bright at around 6 to 8 kHz. If you don't use eq and don't like a bright sound signature, then you should probably look elsewhere. When attenuating this area with eq you get a really great sounding pos.Some anons call this sound boring, so maybe there are better choices for pop/rock type of music (?), but for real music the Hexa is still a good pick. I also really like the build and feel of the shell and the cable.
Also, I created the best IEM target. Forget the JM-1 POS incompetent people from Headphones.com created with zero listening comparisons to a reference speaker system.https://www.mediafire.com/file/wbq0ksw91fk3su9/Endgame_IE.txt/file
>>102407109Thanks, anon.
>new meta is neutralI'm never going to find something that clicks as well for me as my OH10 huh. If I missed something good over the past couple years please let me know but this is what I landed on after trying 10+ recommended IEMs at the time
>OH10someone save this poor soul from 2019...
>>102407171>>new meta is neutralCome on, it's not as simple as that, as explained in that youtube video. The preferred sound of IEMs always was neutral, it's just that the idea what neutral actually is has changed. So the new meta is more mid-bass, less lower treble (simplified) than the previous thing we thought was neutral.
>>102407193What POS do you have sir
>>102405850this level of autism never ceases to impress me
let's gooo
>>10240677544.1kHz means the Nyquist frequency is comfortably above the extension of your POS and probably your hearing too. If you have an unnaturally good treble extension above 20kHz then and only then could it be worth going to 48kHz.Also you're better off downloading a proper 44.1kHz (or 48kHz) master than whatever schizo tier 96-384kHz master you find online. Probably just change it to>CD quality is more than enoughJust don't forget to change your DAC settings to match whatever quality you're playing!
>>102406775>>102407307I should add that quality or performance of a good quality downsample won't really be reduced if your factor is a rational instead of an integer.
>>102407305Based. S tier tips
>>102407296ill take that as a compliment lol
>>102407307I don't know too much about this topic. I found this article to be very helpful:https://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.htmlYou are probably right that it's not worth it going from 44.1 to 48 for audio quality alone, but I feel like 48 kHz will be the standard for music (if it isn't already) because much digitally distributed music already uses 48 kHz as the sample rate.Like I said, it's not about audio quality, it's more about what is widely used, and according to the above article there is no loss of playback fidelity when using 48 over 44.1.So whenever I have music with a 96 kHz sample rate (for whatever reason), I will downsample it to 48 instead of 44.1, not because I need that extra headroom (I don't hear anything above 16 kHz anyway, I could do with mp3!), but because it divides the original sample rate without remainder, and there is no real disadvantage to 44.1 (apart from a bit hdd space...).
A potentially worthwhile reason to use 48 kHz over 44.1 kHz is using an imperfect DAC filter which begins rolling off before the Nyquist frequency.
>>102407346Alright that may be the case, I don't really know why I thought it would be the case; maybe it's just because I'm a nerd and like simple ratios or something.
>bickering over formats when a 1tb sd card is less than $70
I bought the Tangzu Wan'er SG but now I realized I sometimes use the mic.Should I return them and buy ones with a mic?
Real music.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gO6Cfb8-JUc
>>102407619If returning is a hassle for you, then just order the mic version for yourself and keep the ones w/o mic as a Christmas present for someone.
Real music.https://youtu.be/GAhiW1Z3GJY
>>102407619>>102407727Nevermind I just realized the mic comes from the cable, so I just need to buy a cable with mic.Any good 0.78 2 pin with mic that /iemg/ and, why not, /pmpg/ recommends.
>>102407726>>102407736Only the realest musichttps://youtu.be/ybGOT4d2Hs8
>>102407443I have never been in the audio industry so that was still a nice read.>If you hear anything, your system has a nonlinearity causing audible intermodulation of the ultrasonics.I would like to hope that this isn't a problem anymore, 12 years on from this article (its not like we haven't had the technology for decades) but perhaps I am being overly confident in the quality of audio stacks.
>>102407466It will affect the performance, certainly a naïve implementation because you essentially have to upsample then downsample (by integer ratios) to get your desired rate. However this can still be done in a single step along with your filtering so the actual impact on modern hardware is basically negligible. I would be more worried about that 20 band PEQ you've got going.
>>102407765There's a couple in rentry.
Any suggestions for something relatively (physically) flat that would be good to wear under a motorcycles helmet? I don’t want to go in for helmet comms set, and taking on/off a helmet usually rips my current earbuds out of my ears
>>102408441tinhifi t1s, artti r2, letshuoer soloist, kefine delci
>>102406739Etymotic sucks
>>102407225>The preferred sound of IEMs always was neutralNo
>>102408052>I would be more worried about that 20 band PEQ you've got going.I don't know who this is referring to or what do you mean by it
I wanted to snatch a pair of smabat m2 pro but they sold out on aliexpress before I could grab them. Any suggestion for similar flat earbuds?
>>102400654>dac>hissis this nigga retarded (*looks at music choice*)it's the amp that produces the hiss, not the dac.
I got your memedrops, and they work great at home. but as soon as i step outside, everything becomes a garbled, disjointed mess.
>>102410084>it's the amp that produces the hiss, not the dacCould be either
>>102405850>Person/Photo of Significanceput Shartur in there, he clearly lurks this thread
>>102407109>rather bright at around 6 to 8 kHzit's the resonance of your ear canal, dialate your earussy with those >6mm chunkers and shove it deeper inside to make the infamous wandering peak go into higher frequencies
>>102407370spinshit really went from mid-good to the top tier with this new generation of its tips, even stickiness is on point to grip the ear canal well but not attract dust
It might be retarded, but any suggestion for an IEM that I could use for sleeping?Got a ton of noises with apartments being renovated, and ear plugs aren't doing anything.I'm looking for something with ANC that could last a night, preferably something "flat" (I rest my head on my arms).
>>102410550There are no IEMs with ANC.
>>102410550Galaxy buds pro
>>102410550So you're not getting them for subliminal gay sissy hypno audio?
>>102397813My living situation has been turned upside down recently, thankfully I'm set for the most part except for the (literally) little thingsThis may not be the place to ask for it, but this thread is the closest topic-wise to at least one half of my need That's besides the anons here seemingly possessing the necessary expertise regardless, so I'll shoot my shot>I need a combination of either in ear monitors or earphones and a clip-on attachable microphone>Either in one package or as separate devices; I have access to one standard connection jack and multiple USB ports>Under 150€ for both, the cheaper the better, while minimally undermining the other aspects>Both must be reasonably portable with reasonable cable length, I'll be connecting them to a laptop and may need to lean away or duck in my seat>I'll be using the two frequently and mainly for communication either indoors or out of crowds, I care little for noise insulation or filtration, I'll need to hear it if something loud goes off nearby while still wearing them>I do make an effort to be careful with my electronics, but the two mustn't be delicate or prone to damage from things like shaking during transporttl;dr:>clip on mic and earbuds; <160$; portable; used mainly for voice; durableThank you in advance
wanna buy a more professional headphone but i have no idea about those dacs and ampsdoes it work without it?
>>102410513>it's the resonance of your ear canalThe problem with the Hexa is (at least for me), that it's not only it. Ear canal resonances are usually quite narrow, I'd say if there's a peak at 8 kHz because of ear canal resonance, then it has a width of approx. 2 kHz, going from 7 to 9 kHz. So you'd need a peaking filter with a q value of around 4 to fix it. This is how I handle it with other pos, like the Truthear Gate.But in the case of the Hexa, in addition to this, the pos itself seems to be quite hot in this area, but already starting around 5 kHz. This is why I think it must be the Hexa itself in addition to the resonance. I must use a lower Q value and higher attenuation to make the Hexa work for me, killing two birds with one stone. Tricky little pos.
>>102410678Just get something from budget section in OP that you like the sound of with a mic and one of the $10-20 dongles. For podcasts and things get something warmer. Get a $5-10 lavalier mic if you want something decent but without directionality.
>>102410678>>102410945>tfw just read new opProbably browse the rentry instead then. There's no need to spend more than $30 on an entry level pos.
>>102409223Just a comment that a decent PEQ will eat up more resources than any downsample.
>>102410678Kinera celest wyvern abyss pro
>>102410993Alright, didn't quite get that. I use sox for this task and it's indeed very fast.
>>102411185would be better if the keyboard was wireless
>>102411185
>>102410965Bit silly to ask, but:How do I know which ones have a microphone?
>>102411457If it explicitly says it has a mic.
I can't believe hpg is dead. Who's gonna save us from wireless retards now.
>uh bestest tws under 10 rupees??>scarbir.comit's that easy bro, fear not the rushing wave of water with the strength of a ripple.
>>102411457No mic is expected so with a mic is quite explicit. Not every set is sold with mic as an option though many of the budget options are. If you want a particular IEM then you can always just buy a mic cable for it separately.
What am I in for?
>>102412286EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>102412288whay did she mean by this?
*KZ Saga* You are an alchemist, a cosmic wizard, a star child, an arcane architect, an astral adventurer, an accidental arsonist, an awkward astrologer, and an absolute anomaly. Your mission? Unlock your absurd array of ancient abilities, aim your aura at the abyss, and avoid accidentally annihilating all of existence before the (2012 CERN) EVENT.
>>102412574The parody is better than the original.
>>102412306Xhe is saying that you are in for tinnitus, specifically the kind that makes you comtemplate suicide.
How to avoid clear resin yellowing?
>>102412747moon...PISSED!
>>102412698it's letshuoer, not cca cra
>>102412574holy shit, to think that Lord Greyrat was the real Saint (not Taint) all along
>>102412915it'll be known as Moondrop PISS8 from now on
How do we avoid the tube getting full of ear wax and yellowing?
>>102413260by practicing basic hygiene
joyce fucks with tea pro. god i hope i can hear it at canjam
>>102413260use devices that dont go in ears
>>102413298Even keeping it clean my glands won't stop producing earwax with the thing inside my ears and I wear them for 8 hours a day... add up months, years, and things stop looking pristine for clear stuff.
>>102413260Clean them once in a while BEFORE this becomes a problem. Now pic is your only hope.
>>102413385Use a q tip to clean your pos every week or so, like you do with your ears. Lots of shit gets into the eartips before it clogs the pos.
Does anyone else have gotten sensitive to high frequencies? I feel like I hear them everywhere now. It's not tinnitus, I believe, since the sounds come from somewhere and I don't hear the eeeee sound when it's silent.
q tip too blunt an instrument. use needles / the end of cleaning tool
>>102413528u hav tinnitus pos ESLkun(hearing is variable by your condition, environment, etc.)
>>102413528Listen to some kzs and you wont be able to hear high frequencies anymore.
>>102397900nice so i have new meta tuning before it was cool and a marketing fluffy term
>>102413696Looks decent, why is this not in the rentry?
>>102413831its been stealth revised
>>102413838Where are the before/after measurements?
I've been looking for a while and I just can't find shitToss me a recc for some earbuds or whatever that includes a mic in the same box that the thing transmitting audio Into my cranium comes inMic and audio that's all I need
>>102413876Truthear Gate has a microphone version
>retards: new meta!>graph: deviating from target in numerous waysmany such cases
>>102413892Origami Kozinaki, anon
>>102413876CCA Polaris with micenjoy new meta
>>102414062stealth revised
>>102413553How do I eq the world? I want to snap 16k+ out of existence.
>Supermix 4 for 130€Anything better for the price? How much better than my Wankers can I expect those to be?
>>102413528>>102413553NTA but I have an inflamed jaw muscle thanks to clenching in my sleep (not TMJ) which on a good day doesn't affect hearing at all but on a bad day all I get is EEEEEEEEEEEE.Went to doctor and all they did was give me a low strength steroid instead of even trying to work out why it was inflamed. Worst part is these ChiFi earussy dilators make it worse :(
>>102414364better for what?for sound quality, any pos + eq will be better. for build quality the sm4 is just a normal resin pos. for qc it seems to be above average. fit will probably be a mixed bag, but will probably not be better than the wankers
>>102414364NovaI found upgrading didn't ruin the waners but I also wouldn't ever actually choose them. The biggest reason to upgrade is for a silky smooth treble
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8nama8l9qYthoughts on FiiO FT1?
>>102414910headpos, badgo to /hpg/>inb4 complaints from lazy bums
>>102411465new fox dropped?
>>102397813BEST IEMS FOR SLEEP?? I LIKE TO LAY ON SIDE SOMETIMES
>>102411412
>>102415125seconding this, i cant sleep without asmr
>>102414910Who is spending a couple of hundred dollars on a resistor ladder DAC and taking it seriously in a headpos review in 2024?
>>102412747By avoiding the sun. But they will yellow overtime anyway.
>>102415125>plugging for extended periodsShiggy
>>102414364Gate with eq until you eq the supermix 4.
>>102412747Name the cable
>>102415489I always assumed dacs literally dont matter
>>102412286>dubsfuck i'll take it
>>102416503Uh oh whiteboi alert thirdie melty in 3...2...1
>>102413856which ones? there are at least 5 afters
>>102414364>shartman pos
>>102412574Are they finally dropping the switch meme?
>>102416503how does it sound? is the planar sheen in treble still there in the 2024 Ed.?
>>102415630They matter when they're intentionally made bad(R2R) or when it's a DAC+amp combo(99% of cases).
good?https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005178119451.htmli want a good cable with a mic
>>102416817too busy to listen atm, will post impressions later
best iem for picrel song? i need BASS tight as a jar of pickles
>>10241758564 audio volur
Gate meta EQ, what do you think?
>>102413856people graph them once when they release, they are not gonna regraph them every few months
>>102418525what do YOU think? you're the one who's listening to them
>>102418752I'm looking for community validation
>>102418841you're a faggot double nigger and you should kill yourself immediately tranny freakdid that help?
>>102407193I simply enjoy them anon. I have tried other things but OH10 are best for me. If you can point out a newer set that hits as hard as those be my guest
Hey fellas I'm looking for a budget IEM for noise isolation. I live next to a pool so I'm planning on getting a pair of noise isolating headphones and IEMs underneath those. I'm also into gaming so take that in mind.Thanks in advance.
>>102418525Looks like an AutoEQ to JM-1 yep
>>102406739etymotic rapes my ear into too much pain. I can handle truthear girth, not etymotic length.
>>102419087epz q1 pro. the metal iems in OP frankly aren't great at noise isolation
>>102413260>How do we avoid the tube getting full of ear wax and yellowing?by using thesehttps://www.amazon.com/Linsoul-Kiwi-Ears-Replacement-Orchestra/dp/B0CXXC8BQ3/or these (more expensive)https://www.amazon.com/AZLA-SednaEarfit-Standard-Pairs-Size/dp/B0B493Y7TQor these (foam)https://www.amazon.com/Comply-SmartCore-Earphones-Cancelling-Comfortable/dp/B075R8YCKN/
>>102415125see>>102408831
Looking for 2DD less than 40 USD
>>102419906why 2dd?
>>102419933I want to experiment more than a single DD. 4 if they're cheap enough.
>>102419948experiment with eq instead
>>102419906KZ castor black for 2DDCCA Trio for 3DDbasically endgame
>>102420088>Kz>CCAWho is gonna tell him?
>hurr durr KZ changed the nozzle filter for their gutter oil $5 IEM in the past therefore all KZ IEMs have stealth revision>hurr durr KZ mocked western lesbian looking reviewers and made a rap song for krilla the kilobuck killa therefore they are bad
gaymousetranny...
>>102420088more like dead drivers lmao
new bread >>102420751
