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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases (e.g. 4K editing, high FPS gaming)
State budget and COUNTRY or you will not be helped

>12VHPWR
DO NOT USE ANGLED 12VHPWR ADAPTERS
Fully seat a 12VHPWR connector in its socket, otherwise the connection can melt.
https://youtu.be/ig2px7ofKhQ?t=1345

>Intel Raptor Lake / RPL Refresh
Instability reported with 13th and 14th gen, i5 K SKUs and above (incl non-K). Update BIOS and apply Intel Baseline settings. Avoid purchases.

>CPUS
HTPC(4K60)/Web Browsing: i3 12100
Gaming: R5 7600; budget: R5 5600; eXtreme: R7 7800X3D
Multicore: R9 7950X; budget: i5 13500
>Avoid iGPU-less CPUs
>Existing AM4 board with an old chip? Consider a Zen 3 CPU

>GRAPHICS CARDS
1080p: RTX 3060 12 GB; budget: RX 6600; ultra budget: used RTX 2060 Super
1440p: RTX 4070 Super; budget: RX 7700 XT
2160p: RTX 4080 Super (at MSRP); budget: RTX 4070 Ti Super
Amateur production: RTX 3060 12GB, RTX 4060 Ti 16GB, used RTX 3090, RTX 4090

>RAM
DDR4: Zen3/AM4 - 2x 16GB 3600 MT/s CL18; for locked "non-K" 12th/13th/LGA1700 - 2x 16GB 3200 MT/s CL16
DDR5: Zen4/AM5 - 2x 16GB 6000 MT/s CL30; for unlocked "K" 13th/14th/LGA1700 - 2x 16GB 6400MT/s CL32

>COOLERS
Standout: Peerless Assassin 120 (or variant)
https://linustechtips.com/topic/891730-cpu-cooler-performance-tier-list/

>PSUS
A new PSU should be ATX 3.0 compliant
Aim for 50-75% PSU utilization at full system load
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>SSDS
WD SN850X 2TB
Avoid: outdated Samsung 970 Evo Plus, cheapest NVMe SSDs
https://ssd.borecraft.com/

>MOTHERBOARDS
Good power delivery is required for Intel CPUs like the i5 13600K and above
Don't pair a K CPU with a B mobo chipset

>GAMING MONITORS
Dell G2724D, AOC Q27G3XMN, MSI MPG 321URX
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/dP3v4D

Previous: >>102409272
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Sorry for the delayed reply, my PC broke yesterday (and that's why I'm looking for a new GPU) and I'm not really feeling like setting up 4chanx in this old laptop I'm using.
Also, here's the full spec list I'm planning to get, it's more just so you guys can check for any egregious mistakes, since the pricing here is way too different :
Ryzen 7 5700X3D
MSI B450M Pro-VDH Max
Kingston Fury Beast 2x8GB 3200MHZ DDR4 CL16
Thermalright Assassin X 120 R SE
Not really sure on the PSU for now, I haven't put this build on PCPartPicker to see how much it consumes but I'll probably end up getting a 500W 80+ Bronze.
Also a few similarly priced (new) GPUs here:
RTX 4060 8GB
RTX 3060 12GB
RX 7600 8GB
RX 6750 12GB
ARC A750 8GB
>>102416196
>>102416209
>buy...THIS!!!
I'm poor and a turd worlder, the used market here sucks and nVidia is overpriced when compared to the AMD options.
>Why not AMD???!!!
You know, I'm not really sure, I really had fun playing with local language models and would really like to continue doing so. I understand that 8/12GB isn't a lot but at least nVidia has CUDA. Picrel is a list of similarly priced cards when new. Not to mention the proprietary upscaling technologies that AMD doesn't have.
I did check out some used cards and I can find pretty easily a 3060ti for the price of a new 4060, not sure if they were used for mining or whatever, or even if it matters that much.
>>102416699
>DLSS Frame Gen, you'll have to optimize further, as it requires extra VRAM
I had forgotten about DLSS3/Framegen since I've never used it before (I was using a 1060). In theory it seems really cool and a killer feature for the 4060, I'm willing to take a small graphical hit in order to push more frames in taxing games. As I've always been a low-end user I'm very used to adjusting the settings to reach playable framerates so I don't think VRAM would be an issue (in this specific case).
>seems that the 4060 is pulling ahead substantially in newer titles
That is very good to know.
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>>102417644
Thanks for bringing it up, I'd really like to have some confirmation on this as it'd impact my decision a lot (basically go for an used 3060TI, probably the best option given my situation). A B550 mobo is almost 2x the price of a B450 here unless I go for the absolute bottom of the barrel.
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>ANGLED 12VHPWR
Is my house going to burn down?
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Finally you can play a game on PC that is next gen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBqpFlA_4Is
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>>102417704
>Ryzen 7 5700X3D
Check AliExpress and see if they ship to your location as they got a load of those chips from AMD for cheap and are selling them for much less than regular e-tailers.

>Kingston Fury Beast 2x8GB 3200MHZ DDR4 CL16
It is not recommended to got with less than a 2x16GB kit these days if you can help it at all.
Of those GPUs the 6750 12GB might be the most well-rounded option long-term.
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>>102417804
>consoi port of a qte memegame
yawn
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>>102417823
But it has Nvidia Reflex, consoles dont have that.
It's also winner of 50 awards. I know you don't care but others do.
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>>102417834
calm me when they release rebirth on pc
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https://www.techspot.com/news/104725-nvidia-ceo-cant-do-computer-graphics-anymore-without.html
>when asked at the Goldman Sachs Communacopia + Technology Conference in San Francisco last week which AI use case excited him the most, Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang responded that it was computer graphics.

>"We can't do computer graphics anymore without artificial intelligence," he said. "We compute one pixel, we infer the other 32. I mean, it's incredible... And so we hallucinate, if you will, the other 32, and it looks temporally stable, it looks photorealistic, and the image quality is incredible, the performance is incredible."
DEVS WILL FORGET HOW TO MAKE GAMES LOOK GOOD IF THEY AREN'T PLAYED ON MY $2000 AI GPUS.
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>>102417862
>We compute one pixel, we infer the other 32. I mean, it's incredible... And so we hallucinate, if you will, the other 32, and it looks temporally stable, it looks photorealistic, and the image quality is incredible, the performance is incredible."
>And so we hallucinate, if you will, the other 32, and it looks temporally stable, it looks photorealistic, and the image quality is incredible, the performance is incredible."
what the hell is he even saying?
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What's your opinion on the Acer Nitro XV275U?
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1784672-REG/acer_um_hxxaa_302_27_wqqhd144hz_va_monitor.html
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>>102417834
>awards
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>>102417672
Antec flux follows the North in using wood on the case
Doesn't look anywhere near as beautiful with it
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monitor stands?
>>102418174
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Just got my shadow base 800 in, VERY happy with how it looks. I don't think I'll be running into a shortage of room for the GPU like my last case. Absolute steal for $80.
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>>102417933
I don't think very highly of budget VA panels due to black smearing. If you want one though the AOC Q27G3XMN would be a better choice especially for gaming.
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/compare/aoc-q27g3xmn-vs-acer-nitro-xv275u-p3biipx/41611/62843
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where can i see a B650 motherboards max frequency when it comes to DDR5 ram?
like can this
>https://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/B650M-HDVM.2/index.asp
run 6000 mhz? do i have to overclock it?
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Im so fucking angry right now.

holy shit i hate living in europe, stupid disgusting communist shithole
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>>102418337
elaborate?
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>>102418350
does he need to?
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>>102417862
>We compute one pixel, we infer the other 32. I mean, it's incredible... And so we hallucinate, if you will, the other 32, and it looks temporally stable, it looks photorealistic, and the image quality is incredible,
damn, i didn't know DLSS was so good we can play games at 67p
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>>102418336
>Supports Dual Channel, up to 7200+ (OC)
it says the max validated frequency right there
>run 6000 mhz? do i have to overclock it?
6000 is always an overclock
a very mild overclock, though
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>>102418350
basically:
>pc components or anything electronic is much cheaper in america
>want to order them from amazon to EU
>holy shit the international fees are insane nevermind
>oh wait, i can actually use post forwarding warehouse in america to bypass these commie rules set by EU, and ship the product as it if was free!
BUT..

>THE COMMIES FROM EU ACTUALLY CHECK WHAT'S IN THE FUCKING PACKAGE AND ACCORDING AND THEN ACCORDING TO HOW MUCH IT'S WORTH APPLY THE INSANE TAX OF MORE THAN 20%. EVEN IF IT WAS SENT OUT AS A GIFT BY YOUR FAMILY THEY STILL DO THIS TO EVERYTHING "ABOVE $45"

So if i ordered something that costs like 1200 i would pay like 1500 or more because of these insane rules
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>>102418428
im sure there are some smart ways to bypass this
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>>102418428
just mark an item as a gift when filling out the customs declaration for your package you retard.
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>>102418454
don't they check the package? even if it is marked as a gift
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Is there anything wrong with the Corsair 4000D airflow case? It not recommended according to the previous thread
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>>102418478
expensive for what it is but there's nothing wrong with it
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im installing tomorrow my ryzen 7 7800 x3d from
my shit i9 14900k
will the pain finally end? i only game anyway
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>>102418428
boohoo nigger, turn off the joe rogan podcast youre listening and move to the us if le heckin electronerinnos is all you need in your life. please report back on /pol/ or whatever shit board you came from when the hospital/education/service/literally everything other than CONSOOOOOOMM bill literally bankrupts you
ill gladly pay 20% more to not live in the miscegenated states of muttamerica
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is ryzen 7800 x3d and 4090 a good combo?
or is there anything better?
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>>102418533
yes
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>>102417862
Meanwhile, at AMD
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>>102416170
Anyone else care to weigh in? I'm considering instead using a 4070/Super even though I really don't like NVidia, I just don't wanna bother dealing with cad software bugs on Radeon
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>>102417672
So with PC price to performance being exactly the same as it was 4 years ago (4070 is worse than the 3070 for the same price, 5080 rumored to cost the same as 4090 MSRP), wouldn't the PS5 Pro be a better deal for 4K gaming?
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If my store fails to obtain an ASRock X570 Taichi Razer Edition (for the slight upgrades it has over the original, my case doesn't have a window), and I don't manage to get one off Ebay or w/e, what's an equal to it? I'm not exactly up for grabbing the cheaper and more available ones because I want to have a Q U A L I T Y motherboard for my 5800X3D, but something like the X570 Creator is really pushing it...
Norwegian market, use prisjakt.no or prisguiden.no (redirects to Klarna) to get a general overview, but any stores that ship to Norway without having insane import fees would be acceptable at this point
A lot of alternatives are straight up unobtainable this late in the AM4 lifecycle here.
I'll be checking the used market over here, but chances to get what I want from there is rather low, since most are sold with the entire goddamn computer (I don't need that)
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>>102418785
ps5 pro is just a slightly faster ps5 with ai upscaling and nothing more and you're not even considering that you need a subscription to use most of the online functionality and you still have to spend 80$ on a disc drive anyways
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>>102418714
>noctua fans
lmao
Get cheaper fans. Use that money to get 6000MHz CL30 RAM. CL48 is slow as fuck.
If you are going to keep that Noctua CPU cooler then don't spend money on thermal paste. The pre-applied paste they have on their cooler is better than that MX-6.
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are the new ryzen chips finally the thing to upgrade my 12700k to?
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>>102418891
not unless you need it for work, 5% gaming uplift over Zen4, the 9950X is better than the 14900K in some productivity applications and beats it in others without the whole, degraded silicon thing and uses a lot less power.
otherwise Zen5 is a miss until the prices come down/Zen4 sells out and Zen5X3D comes out for gamers.
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>>102418795
I found an Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero on the used market, the comparison site I'm using seems to indicate it's head-to-head, but ASUS has a reputation...
I'm not gonna overclock my ram or CPU (more likely that I'll undervolt it if it makes anything last longer), anyone of you have any experience with it? I know there's one BIOS version that's fucky from searching around, at least.
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does water cooler cpu make your room less hotter?
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>>102418785
>PS5 Pro be a better deal for 4K gaming?
lol
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>>102418795
*(I forgot the X570 Creator is displaying the wrong product at prisjakt, and it never probably even existed here in Norway)
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>>102418966
No you fucking retard
Where do you think the heat removed from your CPU goes? Water cooling doesn't magically reduce the power requirements of your CPU
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>>102418856
So maybe just buy paste when I will inevitably upgrade my processor in a few years? Thanks for the insights anon, although I have always used Noctuas and I don't think that'll change anytime soon.
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>>102419001
>So maybe just buy paste when I will inevitably upgrade my processor in a few years?
Pretty much.
>although I have always used Noctuas and I don't think that'll change anytime soon.
If you're like that then just spend a bit more for their thermal paste instead of the MX-6. Their thermal paste is actually really, really good.
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>>102418942
so wait for zen5x3d then
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>>102419060
Wasn't there some talk about nvidia making CPUs?
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>>102417862
>AI cores seller says we can't do graphics without AI
NO WAY
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>>102419106
they got blocked from buying arm
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>>102419106
Nvidia already licenses ARM IP. Look up Grace
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>>102418211
this
I need a good one that can hold two 27" inch screens. I also have autism and like to rotate the second screen from time to time.
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what is a good reliable oled monitor that i can replace my current three monitors with one by one? would like ti have them all be the same monitor
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>>102418942
Latest AGESA improved performance across the board
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>>102419060
it's super tacky but i've seen worse in tackiness since RGayBi and the color reminds me 90's toys. i kinda like it.
side fans need a comeback btw.
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>>102419424
side fans are trash for aerodynamics
you need a straight line with minimal interference
front to back is perfect
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>>102419434
hear me out. what if we had a giant fan on the side and the others are all exhaust
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>>102419453
one of these + open case
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>>102419453
the area where the bearing is wouldn't get any air flow unless the fan was very far away from the components
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>>102419470
based?
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>>102418565
>muh hospital and education services i pay for in europe for hundreds of thousands of dollars through all the taxes anyways
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>>102419475
hmmm
ok 4 big fans facing the mobo
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>>102419351
the biggest problem with Zen5 is its competing with Zen4, the 9600X should be $249.
right now people are not buying single CCD Zen5 because they're $70 more expensive than the Zen4 parts for a 5% gain. if it was $40 people would justify it.
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>>102419434
I hate side fans just because its a major asspain to take the side panels off
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>>102419060
call me old but I miss when cases looked like this :(
I actually loathe the modern trends of tempered glass and RGBTQIA+, I feel like most case designers want art pieces instead of functional fucking cases
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>>102419554
Same. The one thing I like about OEM machines is that they're no frills and all about functionality. Really wish I could use this case but Dell OEM sucks.
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>>102419554
nothing odd about liking this spaceship terminal look
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why did these never get a "slot"? as in an opening on a device where you just slid them in and maybe closed a door and you had more storage
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forgot image
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>>102417862
I fucking hate this AI bullshit in vidya now, it makes the games look so blurry.
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>>102417672
what's the best budget pc I can get for around 500 dollars that I can buy parts for later like a graphics card, I don't know where to start
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>>102419637
the m.2 slot is already pretty simple, some motherboard vendors have even done snaps now so you don't even have to screw it down
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>>102419717
i mean for portable devices like tablets and such
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>>102419655
Upcoming mac m4 mini.
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>>102419736
one that's not mini? or mac
I could go up to $600
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>>102419655
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/#view=9CfZ8d
That will give you lite gaming performance (like maybe cross gen PS3/PS4 era games) in the interim before you get a graphics card.
It's questionable because it's a PCIe 3.0 system, meaning low end graphics cards can't really be used in it because they're designed for later revisions and they're crippled without the PCIe generation they're designed for. It's also kind of a weak CPU in general, about like the PS5/PS5 Pro's. Can't really put a fast GPU in it or you'll be CPU limited. Something like a 4070 would be the absolute max in my opinion, but a 3070 would probably be more appropriate

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hXY87R
You could also go with an i5 12400 + B760 build, which would give you PCIe 4.0, and would be a good pairing for a 4070 or an RTX 5060, if it happens to be good when it releases. The downside is that you don't have lite gaming capability in the meantime

You can also go super budget and get everything now, and you'll be able to play all be the latest games.
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/xf6JwP
You could also get a 2060 Super for a little extra performance and VRAM. Not really upgradable past that, but for a cheap system it really can't be beat. Keep in mind that you'll want to budget for a monitor with adaptive sync, as it's fundamental to modern gaming. A system like this might help you to be able to afford the monitor as well
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>>102419769
>you'll be able to play all be the latest
all but* the latest
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>>102419735
tablets dont have pciexpress.
sd slots are different.
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>>102419796
because you cant put PCI express in a tablet that would have one of these slots
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>>102417804
FF fans are the worst, most delusional enjoyers of shit-slop games. Literal 100s of hours of cutscenes and terrible gameplay that mostly consists of walking around. They praise the graphics when they have not changed since the PS4, proper lighting is basically not existent on complex objects. Still using graphical techniques popular in the early 2010s.
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>>102418533
I mean decent swap, just would hurt knowing you are going down to 12600K multicore performance. Doesn't really matter for gaming of course other than rare use cases like modded Minecraft or some sim games.
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>>102419892
said the miserable anon
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>>102419892
i legit refunded ff7 intergrade after an hour because the game felt like coomerbait
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>>102412471
>Building a computer has never been difficult
building a pc was a much less user friendly experience up until like mid 00s
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>>102418785
>5080 rumored to cost the same as 4090 MSRP)
you should stop listening to AMD shill charlatans
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>>102419966
building has always been pretty straight forward, windows is where the main problems lay.

>>102419997
Nvidia will price the 5080 where they want to because you will buy it, the 5090 will be $3000.
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>>102420013
yes and the same leakers were right about the 4090 being $3000 using 800w
AMD shill charlatans are retarded animals
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>>102419769
>which would give you PCIe 4.0
And just to correct myself again, this would be PCIe 5.0 with the LGA1700 system
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>>102420034
there's no high end competition anymore, good luck cultist.
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>>102419964
There's a big chunk of mental illness this appeals to. Same people that modded Skyrim back in the day (or still kek) to be some anime character with their ass out in front of the camera.
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>>102420047
there was no high end competition for the 4090 and it wasn't $3000 and didn't use 800w like AMD shill "rumours" insisted
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>>102420065
you mean the 4090 that released two months before the 7900XTX and before the AI boom? yeah I wonder why it wasn't $3000
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>>102420065
Yeah, that's only true for the 5090. Be prepared for the 5080 to also be the same exact card as the 4090 at the same price point with some extra AI shit tacked on to please the bubble investors.
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>>102420090
trying to reason with nvidia cultists is impossible, the 5080 will be the same price and performance as the 4090 using less silicon and ram and they'll buy it.
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>>102420105
when it’s not will you abandon this thread?
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I just want 24gb 5060
it would be hilarious if they did that
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>>102420105
>calling other people cultists while also shilling total delusions
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>>102420298
not as funny as a 12gb 5080
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>>102420298
gddr6
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>>102420290
when it is will you? of course you wont, you have to stay here and spread the gospel.

>>102420304
>delusions
heh okay, we will see
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>>102420358
I have heard the same fanfiction about how the 3090 will be $500, and the 4090 will be $10000, it’s always the same AMDelusions
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>>102417672
The madlads at amd finally fixed zen5 with agesa 1.2.0.2
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>>102420463
https://x.com/Bcannon2001/status/1835874850281517526
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>>102420436
$10k, $2k, either way, it's too much for a card of that spec (only 24GB, only 1440p in Cyberpunk RT Ultra, etc.). If I'm spending a brain surgery's amount for a GPU it better make my waifu real.
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>>102420463
ok what's the catch?
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>>102420514
it only works if you were not molested at birth
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>>102420615
>It only works for uncircumcised men
It's over
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>>102420463
It's not going to have a big effect on gaming perf, as games shouldn't be crossing to the other core complex anyway
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can i pair this with an i7-14700k?
https://www.pbtech.com/product/FANDPC30321/DEEPCOOL-AK400-Pink-CPU-Cooler-1x-120mm-Fan-155mm
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https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/FY9nWt

Trying to get everything from the same place as it will be for work so gone with the shop close to me, unsure if I should go 7950x3D or 9950x, apparently the bigger cache does help with Revit. I know if I go 4 dimm I wont be able to overclock ram past 4800-5000, but its necessary.

Idk about the case and fans, think I wanted something cool looking as I'm spending quite a bit on it but now I don't really mind, honestly I might even stick my PC behind my monitors and swap out all the RGB shit.
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>>102420657
intracore latency is down slightly
It was 20-22ns on the same core and is down to 17-19ns now
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Which 7900GRE/XT variants run the coolest? Size and noise aren't important.
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>>102417672
PS5pro challenger how'd I do? $724.8 in total minus $9 for the extra 3 case fans I bought for no reason 5600x, 6750xt,16gb 3200, 1tb crucial p3 plus gen4
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>>102420733

GRE: Hellhound

XT: Merc 310

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_zDD0JDZ8I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baMQSAQndec&t=495s
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>>102421006
>missing fan because gpu too big\case too small
fucking CRINGE either get a super slim fans (3 matching ones, get a new case or get smaller gpu because what I'm looking at is fucking UNACCEPTABLE sorry. 0/10
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Why does everyone seem so sure 50 series cards will be out of stock? Supply chain problems and crypto are fixed now, why would there be shortages again?
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>>102421142
AMDesperation, the 4000 series didn’t have shortages
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>>102421142
scalpers?
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I'm starting to feel the itch to upgrade, but I think it means I'd have to upgrade the whole damn system. I also kinda/sorta wanna wait for next CPU/GPU cycle.

So two questions:
1. Are the rumors that the 50xx series from NVIDIA will be later this year still circulating?
2. When do we foresee the next CPUs coming out that are worth a damn?
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>>102421156
FUCK SENT THE WRONG PICTURE I MIGHT BE HAVING A STROKE
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>>102421142
More like it will be highly ignored because 5% improv.
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>>102421170
Nigga upgrade what? That is still decent. New gpus early next year so just waitfag.
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My PC exploded, but the display stayed on, so I managed to shut it down properly. My GPU was consuming 460W before it failed (I was just running phone emulators). Should I upgrade to an 850W power supply, as it seems my 750W isn't sufficient and caused the explosion? Or is it something wrong with motherboard that caused it?
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>>102421184
I needed to hear this. My urge to spend needlessly must be checked.
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>>102421006
Enjoy but it's not close to the PS5 Pro
PS5 pro has a strong GPU and better upsampling
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>>102421173
>More like it will be highly ignored because 5% improv.
5080 already basically confirmed for 4090 perf
Only question is the price
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>>102421170
enable XMP for a free upgrade
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>>102421142
the 5090 will have shortages due to AI buyers, both from the worst binned GB202 dies going to consumers and from AI buyers buying the 5090.

>>102421156
>>102421170
50 series is early next year, Arrow Lake looks promising and we're still waiting for Zen5X3D.
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Damn AMD really lives rent free in his head huh
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>>102421170
Speccy is abandonware, switch to Hwinfo64.

>>102421253
its probably just Speccy being retarded
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>>102421253
kek
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>>102421253
>XMP
Cheers. Will do so (if it's not already enabled).
>>102421262
Thank ya. Looks like I might be waiting the better part of a year then - probably for the best.
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>>102421135
I mean the mission was the price it can look like a dump so long as it runs
>>102421213
eeeeh i'll believe it when I see it
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How hard will a 2700X bottleneck a 7900GRE? I'd like to get the GPU now and a 5800X3D later down the line.
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>>102421271
>its probably just Speccy being retarded
you don't have XMP enabled either
1066 * 2 = 2133 MHz
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How the fuck do I search for AMD preview drivers on their site?
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>>102421330
>How hard will a 2700X bottleneck a 7900GRE?
fps wise it wont unless you want to push 150fps+, but you may experience stutters in UE5 games, though it's 8c so it shouldn't be as bad as on intel
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>>102421358
Literally retarded
The 2600X has Haswell level single core
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>>102421330
>bottleneck
it's a meme.
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What do I do with old parts? Could this go for $30 or something?
Should I keep them and build a Frankenstein PC in the future with all the leftovers?
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>>102421358
I'm on 1080p@144Hz and don't plan on going beyond that so it sounds perfect. Stutters do annoy me in FPS games but I don't really play those anymore.
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>>102421333
I noticed last time I posted that, pretty sure I enabled it again
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>>102421392
It's not a meme when the generation differences of parts are big.
But it's a meme when you try to micromanage it trying to squeeze every bit from your new parts.
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>>102421330
A GRE is unwise period because of how bad the upsampling is. Pretty much always fine to get the graphics card first and upgrade the CPU second, as long as you upgrade it within a reasonable amount of time
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>>102421418
>generation differences of parts
lol. try decade.
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>>102421393
make an armor.
it will have +30 protection against women
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>>102421393
it's ewaste. cum on it and leave at your neighbor's doorstep.
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>>102421421
I'm never going to use meme upscaling, if a game doesn't run natively at 1080p I just concede that I can't play it. Haven't touched any game made in the last 5 years anyway.
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>>102421454
don't reply he is a njudea shill that works 24/7 for free.
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>>102421393
I'd throw it in a case with an old GPU and 16gb of ram with some RGB cancer and sell it to a 12 year old for cost
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>>102421441
>>102421446
>>102421464
Kek.
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>>102417672
How good is a rx 6600 + ryzen 5 5600 combo in current year? I'm currently using it alongside a single stick of team group 16gb 3200mt/s cl22 ram.
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I'm gonna add one more rad in the bottom and call it good.
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>>102421507
its fine but that ram is crap
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>>102421507
never use a single stick of RAM
you would get better performance by going out and buying the cheapest shittiest 2x8 kit you can find
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>>102421507
works fine on 1080p but definitely upgrade to dual channel ram.
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>>102421454
>Haven't touched any game made in the last 5 years anyway
Then why do you need a new graphics card?
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feel like I asked this once a long time ago but cant remember answers.

I was one of those poor bastards to hop on Roccat back in like 2017/2018. Absolutely loved the mice. The Kone XTD, Kone AIMO, and Kone Remastered ive owned have all been fantastically comfy for my big hands n the closest successor to the G9 i used for nearly 10 years in my childhood.
Sadly, as many know....TB bought em out. And this year wiped em out.

I really like the easy shift mechanic, but form factor is king. I was considering the Razer Basilisk (im told their mice are 'good again') or the Logitech G502 mouse....but also eager to find other suggestions for mice similar to the Kone/G9 in shape to look into.

TL;DR My Kone AIMO/Remastered have both long started having double click issues, and in last week its become chronically worse n unreliable to M1 at times.
Looking for good successor mice to look into, and while Id love a system similar to "Easy Shift" (im told Razer/Logi both have something) its not 'required'.
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>>102421556
forgot to add on: also looking for keyboard suggestions. Enjoyed my Vulcans, but if i gotta get a new mouse....may as well consider new KB pairing too I suppose?
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>>102421562
>>102421556
this is PC BUILD general, not FAG TOY general, saar.
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>>102421421
If nvidia upscaling is so good why does your font look like shit? Checkmate ruski. Hohol missiles on your head soon.
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>>102421578
Well I didnt see a thread for mice/keyboard/peripherals unless im blind, so if u wanna link it by all means fuckboy.
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>>102421512
Two large rads should be enough honestly. More really won't bring your temps down a significant amount after a certain point.
Surprised people are still custom watercooling these days. Also what is going on with that loop mamagement?
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>>102420463
all the benchmarks need to be rerun
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>>102417862
Jensen is afraid that AI hype is going to fade and because cope frames is the only thing that holds Nvidia on top.
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Why does everyone reccomend the Ryzen 5 5600X3D when its barely any different than most ryzen cpus besides the l3 cache? is it that signicant for cpu intensive games?
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>>102417862
>nugames look so shit the only solution is to re-hallucinate them to look good frame by frame
grim
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GTX 700 SERIES

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770 - 2 GB, GDDR5, 256 bit
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 - 3 GB, GDDR5, 384 bit
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti - 3 GB, GDDR5, 384 bit

>800 Series were mobile versions of the 700 Series.

GTX 900 SERIES

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960 - 2 GB, GDDR5, 128 bit
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 - 4 GB, GDDR5, 256 bit
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 - 4 GB, GDDR5, 256 bit
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti - 6 GB, GDDR5, 384 bit

GTX 1000 SERIES

NVIDIA GeForce GT 1030 - 2 GB, GDDR5, 64 bit
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Ti - 8 GB, GDDR5, 256 bit
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 - 8 GB, GDDR5X, 256 bit
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti - 11 GB, GDDR5X, 352 bit

GTX 1600 SERIES

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER - 4 GB GDDR6
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti - 6 GB GDDR6
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER - 6 GB GDDR6

GTX 2000 SERIES

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 - 8 GB GDDR6
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER - 8 GB GDDR6
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 - 8 GB GDDR6
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER - 8 GB GDDR6
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti - 11 GB GDDR6

GTX 3000 SERIES

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB - 12 GB, GDDR6, 192 bit
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 - 10 GB, GDDR6X, 320 bit
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 12 GB - 12 GB, GDDR6X, 384 bit
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti - 12 GB, GDDR6X, 384 bit
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 20GB - 20 GB, GDDR6X, 320 bit
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 - 24 GB, GDDR6X, 384 bit
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti - 24 GB, GDDR6X, 384 bit

GTX 4000 SERIES

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER - 12 GB, GDDR6X, 192 bit
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER - 16GB VRAM
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 - 16 GB, GDDR6X, 256 bit
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER - 16 GB, GDDR6X, 256 bit
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 - 24 GB, GDDR6X, 384 bit

Which did you have bros?
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>>102413310
these things are stupid cheap
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007423337354.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006582613023.html?
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>>102422010
there's AGP stuff before this but they're sitting in my cupboard and I'd have to double check what they were.
9600GT > 9800GT (when the 9600GT died a friend gave me his old card) > 750ti > 2060
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>>102422010
>>102422042
What were the first 8GB and 16GB cards?
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>>102422069
first 8gb is the AMD R9 390 and 390X which was released a few months after the 12gb Titan X from Nvidia in 2015.
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>>102422161
wasn't there some two-core AMD frankencard that technically had 8gb in the previous gen?
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>>102422178
yeah the 295X2 but that was 2x4gb it wasn't unified, it was basically two dies on the one card
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Redpill me on water cooling or just cooling in general. What’s the best way to go about it? And do you guys have any tips/tricks?
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You don't need more than 12GB of VRAM ;)
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>>102422257
>32gb 5090
>16gb 5080
>12gb 5070
>8gb 5060
>8gb 5050
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>>102422244
Actual custom watercooling is a hobbyist thing. Minimal practical/performance benefit but it's good to have hobbies.
All in one, or closed loop, water coolers are good nowadays but you need a big heat load to tease out the difference between them and air. 280-360mm models are highly recommended for i7s and i9s. No current gen AMD CPU needs one but the 12/16-core models can benefit. Smaller radiators don't noticeably outperform dual tower air coolers but can be desirable for fitment in cramped cases.
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>>102422284
3GiB memory chips can't come soon enough
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>>102422284
The is no way they will use GB205 for 5070
IT WOULD LOSE TO FUCKING 4070 SUPER?!
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So would it be a good idea to buy an 850x off aliexpress?
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>>102422368
850x as in corsair's psu? honestly I wouldn't because if it breaks you got no warranty, shipping back is aids and it can just get smashed by whatever country you live in delivery services
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>>102422331
Jensen is probably going to be pissed that AMD has the 3GiB chips for RDNA5 and they weren't ready for Blackwell
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The 7800x3d is gonna go back down in price and restock really soon, right? Right?
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>>102422331
What makes you think they'll give you more of them?
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>>102417672
>Amateur production: RTX 3060 12GB, RTX 4060 Ti 16GB, used RTX 3090, RTX 4090
I noticed in this thread and other threads you either don't list AMD cards or you flat out say to avoid them for amateur production or workstations or however you want to word it. Why is that? Are AMD cards only useful for gaming?
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>>102422010
Why are you spamming this? Is your intent making archives useless or what?
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>>102422582
Pretty much yeah. Some, maybe even most, productivity software supports AMD cards but Nvidia works with everything. By all means buy AMD if you know your suite works well with them but at that point you don't really need the OP pasta.
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>>102422582
>I noticed in this thread and other threads you either don't list AMD cards or you flat out say to avoid them for amateur production or workstations or however you want to word it
ever heard of a word "fanboy" bro?
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>>102422320
Apalteks still clog up in a few months
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>>102422409
Nah, i mean the western digital ssd.
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>>102422793
its probably fake
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>>102422551
Probably, as there is an Amazon Prime day sometime in October and of courese Black Friday/Christmas sales.
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>>102422551
Just buy it lol its fucking cheap compared to Best gpu counterpart



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