this gpu is actually a very good product, and all of the bad press and reviews after it's release was just an organized psyop by pc parts stores to get rid of the stock of older gen GPUs.just think about it all of the "independent" and "unbiased" reviewers unanimously said it's shit, yet it became the most popular chip in the world. everybody knew it's gonna be a big success so they didn't wanna lose money on excess stock of 3060's and 6700's laying on store shelves.
>>102442830>8gb vramwhat is this, 2015?
>>102442853No, it's 2024. Richfags want what the poor stll have - even if it's just a GPU.
why do I keep getting offers to buy 3060s on sale?
>>102442853>8GBmost people never get close to filling it up. most people are still on 1080p, and don't play AAA games on rt.
>>102442830Why not the 16GB version?
name me a modern gayme that is so fucking good that I should invest god knows how much money into high end gpu
>>102442896You don't know "most people". You don't even know what a bit is, dumbass.
>>102442911it's also not as bad as reviewers said, but it's more expensive and most people go for normal 4060.
>>102442921Youtube, Vampire survivors, core keeper, Rim world,
>>102442889Because everyone is overstocked on them and wants to get rid of them. Every day that passes and every new generation that hits the market must organically cause the price of the old stuff to fall. But they can't allow that, or else every GPU sold is a red minus in the books.Therefore, the more they shill the old stuff and the worse they make the new stuff look, the higher the chances they get rid of the old stuff for a profit.
>>102442930nigger I worked 2 years in computer repair shop. I build more than 50 gaming pc's myself and I do actually know what mose people use their GPUs for.
>>102442911fucking 4060Ti has 16GB but 4070TiS doesn't
>>102443196>4070TiSmeant 4070S
>>102442982Those weren't >P<Cs. The "P" is for "PERSONAL". You enountered digital cattle. Same shit like with cops or trash men: Cops think everybodys a criminal, as that's all they see and interact with all day long. A trash man thinks the world is filled with trash and stinky, it's all he sees all day long.MOST PEOPLE have a 4k TV, dumbo.Anyways, enjoy your leftovers.
>>102443220oh yeah totally forgot that entry level consumer grade graphics card is mostly bought by professional companies and not just ordinary people. yeah totally forgot that
>>102442911Considering getting this over the 4070TS, only want the 4070 for the speed of gens
>>102443331no problem, we're all way too forgetful sometimes
>>102442830Nah, it's a crap product that fits into the budget of most people.
>>102442830It's shit.
I have the 4070 super version of thisIt's kind of loudBut it undervolts fineAlso 12GB so everyone calls me a VRAMlet now, fuck you niggas
>>102445022at least it isn't 3.5GB
>>102442830>cheaper product is more popularWow, incredible analysis
4060 nonsense aside, as I have a 16gb 4070ti super But the same variantThis card is loud as all hell, tops out at 69c which is nice, but even it’s idle fan speed is audible It’s by far the loudest non blower gpu I’ve ever owned Even my sapphire toxic r9 280x was quieter and that thing was a high rpm triple fan housefire
there are no bad products. just bad prices.
>>102446803What kinda GPU did you buy that doesn't have fan stop?
>>102447078Sorry, I meant like it’s lowest fan speedWhen it kicks the fan on, it’s lowest speed is very audible And the curve to max speed isn’t actually that bad, at its loudest it’s not really high decibel, but it just makes an annoying fan soundI think it has to do with the fans having those rings on them
whole rtx 4000 series is full of extremely jewish configurations to make you want to buy the product from the next expensive tier and so on...what are the chances rtx 5000 series will also be riddled with this same bs?it should start with 12G for 5060 and 16G for 5060 Ti/Super5080 should already be near 30Gthis would make products other than the flagship viable choice for game developers and other tech hobbyistswill njudea deliver? doubt
>128-bitnigga that's a 4050 with the price jacked up 50%
>>1024428304070 is the only gpu worth owning this gen
>laptop 4080 at 175W is about the same as 4070 super or even better in some scenariosExplain again why are we getting 1500$+ bricks with soon-to-be 600W consumption?
nVidianiggrs are just blind mindless NPC consumers no different than iSheep or Tendies. They can't tell what a Cuda core is, but they'll defend nShitia to the death.
>normal>ti>super>ti super>ti super pro>ti super pro lgbt homo gay>tiny increments>vramletsWhat no competition does to a Jew.
>>102448561Poorfag cope
>>102448539I don't trust laptop manufacturers DESUTo buy into laptops takes a lot of faithTruth be told I don't trust most manufacturers in desktop PC shit but at least I can get an FE card which I know is built right
>>1024485877000 series was worseGT, GS, GTX, GTO, GX2 and I think one other I can’t remember? And then there were 100 and 50 segments, ie 7900 and 7950AGP and pcie variants, and different configs for the same model name.
>>102443220>Most niggers.ftfy because thats what you must be.
>>102449042i had 7600gs20 fps in bf2142 we have to go back
>>102442830Here's a real representation of just how useful than GPU is
>>102442896May be but I'm not one of them, I love to mod my games and can easily fill 24GB of VRAM with textures. I'm on 4k since 2016, I enjoy it.
>nGreedia - the way gamers meant to be milked™
>>102442911that one has a white version?
>>102442830Bus width
Just buy 4090 or 5090,you like to play games and use a pc for it, why compromize your hobby? Get a job lazy neets, i did it and you can too
>>102449148where is 4050 75w no pwoer connector
>>102449214>get a job>no time for vidyaif i cant sit down and have an 8 hour long uninterrupted gaming session 7 days a week whats the fucking point at all
>>102447141kek, friend of me has a dual fan zotac card that runs at 1200rpm minimal speed. Don't they fucking test their cards before they sell them?
>>102449232Well enjoy your 1080p 30fps slop 7 days a week then, you win some you lose some
>>102442830>128-bit memory bus>pcie 4.0×8 WHAT WERE THEY THINKING??????
>>102449259i have 7800X3D and 4080 :^)not that i enjoy much of anything that requires anything more than a 1060
>>102445022it's stupid that nvidia is so stingy with the VRAM.I can use 12-14gb on AAA games at 60fps on an A770 so you are for sure getting bottlenecked by VRAM.
>>102449324>4080Still poor tier
>>102449409whatever you say
>>102442830
>>102442830>nvidiastop advertising for free
Ridiculous pricingThe cheapest 16GB version costs over 430€ here.Meanwhile the RX 7700XT with 12GB costs 370€.
>>102449148That thing would never be able to keep up with the latest iteration of goytracing!
>>102442830The 4060 really is a dumb product. People should just get a 3060ti, 3070 or 2080ti instead. All outperform it in price/performance. The only advantage is framegen, hut these other cards can easily make that up in real frames. Only actual retards buy a 4060
>>102442830Go home Loserbenchmark, you're drunk.
>>102442830>don't buy this gpu or I will bitchslap you
>>102442896Cool, but I need it for stable diffusion
>>102449149a 4060 is not for 4k
>>102449202yes, glue a piece of paper onto the window on your computers case you dumb faggot
>>102449148need this since i don't want change my case and i've got limited space
>>102449042>and I think one other I can’t remember?There was also LE (and the "vanilla" cards without any suffix)Most made sense thoughLE GS vanilla GTO GT GTX GX2GX2 were dual GPU cardsThe only one I think was misleading were GTO models, since it was a lower tier than GT
>>102446412>:(
Worse than a 3060ti, cope
>>102442911i heard the databus is still not big enough for 16 gb so it doesnt matter, but I could be wrong about that, I'd like to know more.
>>102442853If this was still 2015 it would be 3.5GB
>>102442911overall not a great product. for budget AI card a used 3060 12gb is literally faster, and if you want the extra VRAM you're better off getting a used 3090 for a couple hundred moreIt's not that it's a bad card, it's that there are way better options. if this was 300 dollars it would be fine but they go for 500
>>102448844You get 3 years base warranty which you can extend. If it didn't shit itself by then, it will last.
>>102442830Because it's terrible fucking value?
>>102442830>>102451756Is this Amazon offer legit or is it a scam?
>>102451076This, 8GB became a thing in 2016 becaise I remember really wanting a GTX 1080 but was a poorfag.
>>102442830It's the 4060 people were shitting on, not the 4060 Ti. Same with the previous generation: 3060 Ti was good, 3060 was a joke.
>>102451886I think it's legit, considering that Amazon themselves are selling the RX 7800 XT, which is suppose to be a direct upgrade to the 6800 XT, for just $80 more.
>>102449042>>102450359You guys think that's confusing? Try this lineup:>8800 GS>8800 GTS (G80 core, not labeled)>8800 GTS CORE 112>8800 GT>8800 GTS (G92 core, sometimes labeled)>8800 GTX>8800 Ultra
>>102451886if it is a scam Amazon likes to bend over backwards for you. at best the seller will resolve issues, at worst you'll have to send it back for a refund.
>>102452002In 2024, it the 8800 GTX would be releasee, and then get silently downgraded with lower specs while sitting at the same price.
>>102451756For just $50 more, can get the RX 7800 XT.
>>102451756>>102452035Forget the pic
>>102451951The 4060ti sucks ass too.
>>102452002Oh, and I should also point out that the 8800 GS is the same as the 9600 GSO (which is much faster than the 9600 GSO 512MB despite only having 384MB of VRAM), the 8800 GT is the same as the 9800 GT, and the G92 8800 GTS is the same as the 9800 GTX.
>>102443342wait for 50 series, you shouldn't need 16gb but I feel like a budget 16gb GPU isn't going to release for the debut of 50 series (it's actually guaranteed it's not, 5090 will be first, then everything else will be slowly released over a year)
>>102452029That's actually what they did in 2007. They released the 512MB version, then a couple of months later they released a 256MB version for $30 more and a 1024MB version for $150 more.
>>102452105Oh wait, that was the 8800 GT, not GTX. Still, Nvidia has been a scummy company for decades.
So what does the lowest 40 series card do better than the higher 30 series. I was looking at the 16gb version and alternative is a used 3090?
>>102452781it's a good choice if you are using 1080p and want to do stable diffusionthat's itthere is no point in getting a 3070 or 4070 or any of those cards if you are using the final, Chad resolution of 1920x1080unless you want to do llama shit but even then a 3090 will require you to likely have to buy a new case and a new PSUif you're just gaming in 1080p and making taylor swift gens the 4060ti is a great choice
>>102452813The 4060ti is a fucking terrible choice. It's far too expensive for what it offers. No one should buy one ever.
>>102452878I'm coming close to buying one. I'm not even a gamer but I built a desktop right before the covid/crypto shitstorm when the PS5 and new xbox specs leaked. I had money and said, "i'm gonna build a PC beter than the new consoles"at the time the 2080ti was like 1200 bucks, so I bought a used 1070ti as a placeholderof course everything got really hard to buy and way expensive so i waitfaggedat this point, my system (3700x ryzen with ddr4 ram) bottlenecks the more powerful gpus hard unless i go up to 1440p or 4kthe kind of games i do play run fine on 1070ti i just want to be able to say my PC is better than PS5 (right now it is except it can't do raytracing, and yes I know raytracing sucks but i still want it to be able to)having the 16gb vram allows me to fuck with sdxl and run 7b llms locally which repurposes the gaming pc into a coom machine. but i'm in no hurry to buy one certainly not for 450 dollars
>>102442830that shit is like 10% faster than the 3060ti lmao
>>102449042>>102449093>GTX 700 SERIESNVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 - 1024 MB, GDDR5, 128 bitNVIDIA GeForce GTX 770 - 2 GB, GDDR5, 256 bitNVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 - 3 GB, GDDR5, 384 bitNVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti - 3 GB, GDDR5, 384 bit>GTX 800M SERIES800 Series were mobile versions of the 700 Series.>GTX 900 SERIES - 2014/2015NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960 - 2 GB, GDDR5, 128 bitNVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 - 4 GB, GDDR5, 256 bitNVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 - 4 GB, GDDR5, 256 bitNVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti - 6 GB, GDDR5, 384 bit>GTX 1000 SERIESNVIDIA GeForce GT 1030 - 2 GB, GDDR5, 64 bitNVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Ti - 8 GB, GDDR5, 256 bitNVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 - 8 GB, GDDR5X, 256 bitNVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti - 11 GB, GDDR5X, 352 bit>GTX 1600 SERIESNVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER - 4 GB, GDDR6, 128 bitNVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti - 6 GB, GDDR6, 192 bitNVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 - 6GB, GDDR5, 192 bitNVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER - 6 GB, GDDR6, 192 bit>RTX 2000 SERIESNVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 - 8 GB GDDR6NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER - 8 GB GDDR6NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 - 8 GB GDDR6NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER - 8 GB GDDR6NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti - 11 GB GDDR6>RTX 3000 SERIESNVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB - 12 GB, GDDR6, 192 bitNVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 - 10 GB, GDDR6X, 320 bitNVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 12 GB - 12 GB, GDDR6X, 384 bitNVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti - 12 GB, GDDR6X, 384 bitNVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 20GB - 20 GB, GDDR6X, 320 bitNVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 - 24 GB, GDDR6X, 384 bitNVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti - 24 GB, GDDR6X, 384 bit>RTX 4000 SERIESNVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Ti - 16 GB, GDDR6, 128 bitNVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER - 12 GB, GDDR6X, 192 bitNVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER - 16GB VRAMNVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 - 16 GB, GDDR6X, 256 bitNVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER - 16 GB, GDDR6X, 256 bitNVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 - 24 GB, GDDR6X, 384 bitKino?
>>102446803Low-end models are supposed to be garbage so that you feel compelled to buy a higher-end one. Personally, I have a 4070 Ti Super TUF and it's absolutely silent. No coil whine and inaudible whilst gaming. The fans only get above 1000RPM playing the latest AAA sloppa.>>102449252Nvidia mandate a minimum 30% fan speed for all partner cards now. You can't set any of them lower than that. If said manufacturer used cheap fans that need to spin fast to provide decent cooling, the minimum RPM is going to be high.
>>102453684Where the fuck are the Titan cards especially the dual Titan that card was a fucking absolute beast back in the day
>>102453897>mandate a minimum 30% fan speedhow does that make sense? If the fans spin reliably at the lowest speed it doesn't matter if they have 15 or 50% PWM signal.
>>102453684>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770 - 2 GB, GDDR5, 256 bitforum users back in the day be like: 2gb vram is enough bro trust me bro the card will be futureproof>NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER - 12 GB, GDDR6X, 192 bitforum users today be like: 12gb vram is enough bro trust me bro the card will be futureproof
>>102442853the 16gb version is actually the popular one, handles the new games taking over 8gb vram just fine, and very popular in the LLM scene.
>>102449328Allocation is different that utilization. Your A770 is not using settings that actually utilize 12GB of VRAM, the same way a 3060 cannot. Modern AAA games as you mention use texture streaming systems that allocate basically your entire VRAM pool while only actually utilizing a small amount of it, which confuses normies.
>>102454025>$450 just to sew on 4 more 2 GB chip on the back of an relatively underpowered GPUNah.
>>102442982I worked two years at valve and HL3 is releasing at the end of this month
>>102442830if it had 12gb of vram like the 3060 , it would be perfect.
>>102442940>16gb vram for YouTubenigga what
>>102453939It's just a lazy, catch-all way of ensuring that people are unable to cook their card with too low of a fan speed.>>102454031>Your A770 is not using settings that actually utilize 12GB of VRAMDumb take and always has been. You can run a game on low settings with an 8K texture pack installed and utilize the VRAM even on a weak card. People who say lower-end cards "can't" use all their VRAM are tech-illiterate gaymer scum who only use graphical presets in games and never tweak anything manually. Many games look better on low settings with ultra textures than they do on ultra settings with low textures. It's generally one of the most destructive settings to lower in terms of image quality.
>>102452002I'm glad I missed all that. I went from a GeForce 4 mx 440 to a Radeon 6950
>>102454641Yeah bro minimum settings with an 8K texture pack is such a real use case, so useful. Looks so much better than a mix of medium and high settings.
