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The A18 Pro chip from the iPhone 16 Pro when compared to the M1 is:
> ~40% faster in single-core performance
> ~3% slower in multi-core performance
> ~10% faster in GPU performance

how long until Apple brings back the cheap base "MacBook" for $699 with an A-series chip?
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>>102453358
Based
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>>102453358
>btfos itoddlers in your path
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>>102453371
finally, 1 extra hour in my daily netflix loop
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>>102453358
Who cares its a phone
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Aren't the M series chips based off the A series ones? Guess this gives us a hint of what M5 will be like. Looks like it'll have great performance.
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>>102453464
Many people
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>>102453898
Name 8
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>>102454060
NIGGER
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>>102455113
does this count as six people or one
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>>102455807
8
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>>102453886
A18 uses the same internal architecture and node as the M4, so we already know what it looks like
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>>102453464
a phone faster than your laptop
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>>102456741
Didnt answer the question
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>>102453358
Why does apple refuse to be competitive in the gpu market? A 6900xt from FOUR years ago that's basically considered a mid range gpu is still faster than apple's flagship $4000 chip. And if there's a technical reason why they can't do it, why not allow external gpus again?
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who the fuck are the people that obsess over phone benchmarks? like i seriously could not ever give a fucking shit about this stuff. what practical benefit am i going to get from knowing a phone is "beating" a 3 year old laptop?
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>>102456941
The 6900XT by itself uses like 350W, the m2 ultra uses 300W for the entire mac studio system.
>muh compute
AMD's openCL support is STILL a joke, meanwhile Metal Compute actually just works fine. Apple is unironically the only alternative to nvidia for amateur GPGPU and AI.
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>>102457020
Those are metal benchmark scores.
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>>102453371
>comparing against last year's competitor
>with a bigger battery
>barely wins
lmao, intel and qualcomm are so funny
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>>102456741
impossible. a laptop has an order of magnitude higher power and head dissipation budget. they have not come that far in a few years.
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>102453358
>102453359
>102453371
>102453406
>102453464
>102453886
>102453898
>102454060
>102455113
>102455807
>102455975
>102455992
>102456741
>102456779
>102456941
>102456964
>102457020
>102457030
>102457035
The Intel i3 8100 from nearly a decade ago and selling for $10 on eBay destroys the latest crapple currynigger CPooU in real performance.
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>>102456941
Apple is by far the leader in GPU performance per watt, the M3 Max is very close to the mobile 4080 while using 1/4 of the power, so yeah, they're competing in the high end tier with Nvidia already

>A 6900xt from FOUR years ago that's basically considered a mid range gpu
bullshit, the 6900XT is on the same performance category as the 4070 ti, which is a high end GPU (it was even meant to be called the "12GB 4080")
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>>102457130
get a toilet currynigger
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>>102457130
Who cares about performance per watt when your flagship "pro" computer can't even match a mid range $1200 gaming pc and you don't even have the option to use an external gpu? They might as well just admit that they've abandoned the high end computer market and only make low and mid range computers now.
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And it's completely useless unless apple implements a feature like Samsung's DeX, which guess what, they never will because they want to sell MacBooks.
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>>102457174
> 4090
> 24GB of VRAM
vs
> M3 Max MacBook
> up to 128GB of VRAM
the best way to locally run LLMs with lots of parameters are MacBooks
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>>102453371
>bigger battery
>worse screen
>newer product
>barely "wins"
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>>102457174
>who cares
people with brains
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>>102457505
>my computer takes twice as long to finish the same task but at least is uses less energy!
It's fine if you want to admit that macs are the computer equivalent of an eco friendly compact car, but then price them like one and stop trying to market them like a luxury supercar.
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>>102457030
Support isn't about scores in a microbench, it's about how reliable the platform is. AMD opencl drivers still crash in monolithic kernels. Even some benchmarks crash on AMD GPUs
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>tfw too poor to buy the best M4 macbook pro
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>>102453358
how long until you get a toilet currynigger?
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>>102458285
> M4 macbook pro
no such thing, only iPad slop has the best chip.
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>>102457165
> out of curiosity check your screenshot
> M3 Max faster than 7900 XTX in Blender
thanks jeet, you actually made me realize Apple Silicon is even better

https://opendata.blender.org/benchmarks/query/?compute_type=OPTIX&compute_type=CUDA&compute_type=HIP&compute_type=METAL&compute_type=ONEAPI&group_by=device_name&blender_version=4.2.0
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>>102453358
according to this meaningless benchmark.
how long does it take an iphone to compile chromium? oh wait, we'll never know because apple keeps their ecosystem locked tight.
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>>102453371
>>102453406
finally, 1 extra hour in my daily gooning routine
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>>102458908
no one compiles Chrome on their phones though. That performance is great for gaming though, you can't play RE 4 remake and other AAA titles on Android phones because they're just too slow for that kind of workload
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>>102459001
>no one shits in a toilet though though. That performance is great for street shitting though, you toilet shit on Android phones because they're just too clean for that kind of workload
do iJeets really?
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>>102459068
but anon... street shitting countries use Android

in fact India is known to LOVE Java and Android, if you read the chat in Google events it's full of filthy jeets
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>>102459116
> Nigeria
> ~10% is "Unknown"
nani??? what are they using, Ubuntu mobile?
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>>102453371
funny because Netflix could just optimise their shit software and probably triple the battery life of all those devices
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>>102459411
how? By creating a new magic video decoder that runs efficiently on 100 different chip architectures?
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>>102457176
following your logic, Samsung doesn't want to sell their notebooks?
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>>102459155
Likely some old phones no major OS from Google, Apple or Microsoft. Simple dumb phones or maybe feature phones using proprietary OS.
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>>102457102
>impossible
>a laptop has an order of magnitude higher power and head dissipation budget
you're retarded. The M1 uses more power than any A-series chip and runs fine on macbooks and ipads.

The A18 consumes way less power while being considerably faster, so yeah, it's very possible.
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>>102457104
> M1
> 35W
> i7-8565U
> 15W
these poojeet screenshots are hilarious, Apple really did something right

also
> linux kernel compilation
> real performance
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>>102457020
Apple is no alternative to NVIDIA at all, even a top of the line M2 Ultra is 10 times slower at matrix multiplication than a 4 year old 3090.
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>>102461408
>top of the line M2 Ultra
that's not top of the line, the M3 Max outperforms the M2 Ultra on many workloads, see: >>102458828
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>>102461486
It doesn't at matrix multiplication, it has almost twice the GPU cores and memory bandwidth. I choose the M2 Ultra because it is the one that scores the best, an M3 Max is much, much worse.
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>>102458465
>games
how about some shit I care about in a laptop?
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>>102461558
>because it is the one that scores the best
in what benchmarks?
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>>102461637
llama.cpp
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>>102461657
looks like this workload only cares about MUH CORES. Even the M1 series is scaling linearly with the amount of cores.
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>>102461657
>ai shit
who cares
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>>102461725
>>102461743
Here comes the cope. It's the same workload as for any other AI app, and I was responding to someone who said that "apple is the only alternative to nvidia for ai".
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>>102457165
good morning sir!
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>>102461783
huh.... I wonder why this relation exists. WEIRD!
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>>102460519
Comedy option: Windows phone.
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>>102453358
what is geekbench
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>>102453358
The Quality Communication Antirrhinum Eight Generation Four is also faster than the Year Two Thousand Twenty M1. What a coincidence.



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