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Discussion of free and open source text-to-image models

Training Edition

Previous /ldg/ bread : >>102622356

>Beginner UI
Fooocus: https://github.com/lllyasviel/fooocus
EasyDiffusion: https://easydiffusion.github.io
Metastable: https://metastable.studio

>Advanced UI
Forge: https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge
Automatic1111: https://github.com/automatic1111/stable-diffusion-webui
ComfyUI: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI
InvokeAI: https://github.com/invoke-ai/InvokeAI
SD.Next: https://github.com/vladmandic/automatic
SwarmUI: https://github.com/mcmonkeyprojects/SwarmUI

>Use a VAE if your images look washed out
https://rentry.org/sdvae

>Model Ranking
https://imgsys.org/rankings

>Models, LoRAs & training
https://civitai.com
https://huggingface.co
https://aitracker.art
https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainer
https://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts
https://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scripts/tree/sd3

>Flux
https://huggingface.co/spaces/black-forest-labs/FLUX.1-schnell
https://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples/flux

>Pixart Sigma & Hunyuan DIT
https://huggingface.co/spaces/PixArt-alpha/PixArt-Sigma
https://huggingface.co/comfyanonymous/hunyuan_dit_comfyui
Nodes: https://github.com/city96/ComfyUI_ExtraModels

>Index of guides and other tools
https://rentry.org/sdg-link
https://rentry.org/rentrysd

>Try online without registration
txt2img: https://www.mage.space
img2img: https://huggingface.co/spaces/huggingface/diffuse-the-rest
sd3: https://huggingface.co/spaces/stabilityai/stable-diffusion-3-medium

>Maintain thread quality
https://rentry.org/debo

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>mfw
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Blessed thread of trainingship
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https://github.com/balazik/ComfyUI-PuLID-Flux
>tfw your dog stepped on a bee
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>>102646371
booba
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Is jd vance really going to deport nvidia's engineers?
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almost
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>>102646461
what?
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>>102646507
nice
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>>102646207
Pretty cool
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>>102646507
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>>102646342
I can only do one or two before I OOM :/
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>>102646593
that's weird, I don't get much more vram increase, but it really depends on the resolution of your picture's input, don't try to go too high
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>>102646601
I was already pushing my computer to the limit with Flux. My input image could be considered large I suppose. I'll try that, thanks.
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>>102646616
what quant are you using? maybe you should go for a smaller quant?
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>>102646342
https://civitai.com/models/810566/fluxcute-anime-art-style?modelVersionId=906417
nice lora
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genning some miserable slags
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>>102646697
that's the stuff
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>>102646342
what's cool about PuLID is that it knows how to make it look like the human's input even on a completely different style
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look at this miserable fat whore. she needs to lose some weight
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I’m so sick of ai. Fuck why is this my job now. I hate ai.
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>>102646494
love this style
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>>102646765
Nigga you made the sandwich
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>>102646775
nice
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>>102646780
these creatures are so foul. why does my computer keep making them?
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>>102646799
Because you keep prompting them
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something something "the wall"
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>>102646807
Hmm, no. It's not my fault.
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>>102646819
I feel like I could get her to settle for me and it would take at least a few years before the contempt starts.
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>>102646507
Does this count as nsfw?
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>>102646829
Please do not make the mistake of going for a fat woman. Their bodies advertise their unwillingness to make any attempt to live decently. They can't resist cookies and cakes, what do you think they'll do when they're tempted to cheat?

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>>102646843
nice
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I'll stop bombarding you guys with fat chicks soon, just a few more
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>>102646861
You’re legit retarded. There is no personality association.
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built
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>>102646882
>it's fine if a woman can't control herself around candy bars, you can't draw any conclusions about that
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>>102646618
Would any work better than FP8? They seem to have similar reqs but I'm not sure.
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>>102646904
if she can't control her desire to eat, she can't control her desire to cheat
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>>102646910
Q8 is really similar to fp16 in terms of quality
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>>102646904
You can tell their mother’s water supply is poisoned
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>>102646921
>bong water
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>>102646920
Thanks for the updated comparison.
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ok THIS is a 10 in bongland
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>>102646927
it's also working for 3d characters
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>>102646998
Wait what the fuck, there’s a specific thing to do that pseudo 3D look?
JSON please?
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>>102647014
>Wait what the fuck, there’s a specific thing to do that pseudo 3D look?
no, I just used a picture of a 3d character I found on the internet as the input, just wanted to point it out that PuLID also works in this instance
https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=4997d9601951f80e&sca_upv=1&rlz=1C1ONGR_frFR1098FR1098&q=reiko+ridge+racer&udm=2&fbs=AEQNm0Aa4sjWe7Rqy32pFwRj0UkWd8nbOJfsBGGB5IQQO6L3J_86uWOeqwdnV0yaSF-x2jqw-AzvpDFRWNmLZKilfTrfO0pl9dtT9e2t2elzSdzPviJlaPtdkm_zev73LcACj_Zt3WoLu1loKbhUBQ0BvD6_OC9OERnpW26hAPVqw_fTJrjRkQgEJf5SXlzvVj2JhcxyIvER&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjnsd7t9u6IAxUjRKQEHS-OFYYQtKgLegQIDxAB&biw=1163&bih=544&dpr=3.3#vhid=YBZRwyHN4m3zdM&vssid=mosaic
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is this the official waiting room?
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>>102646861
ty
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>>102647216
Yes, the official waiting for 5090 and all new models.
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I've been experimenting baking loras for flux since kohya added it to sd-scripts and the truth is
I give up
I'm going back to sdxl
any kind of style/anime/whatever that isn't realism slop results in absolutely garbage anatomy and hands 80% of gens, no matter how clean your dataset is. I've tried Adamw8, Adamamix, rex/came, lion, prodigy, cosine, schedule free, adafactor, all kinds of LRs, datasets, sizes, dims, you name it. Even when it's 'ok', it's never that good. It's just not worth the extra training and gen time. yeah, I have to use face/a detailer or inpaint in sdxl, but at least it's quick. I'm sorry, /g/
I tried so hard
I wanted to love flux
I wanted to be free of sdxl
But I just can't take it anymore
FUCK BFL
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>>102647470
I feel kind of vindicated by this ngl
I think their real architecture is different or something. Open weight and open source just aren’t the same, and they’ve done it in the most user-hostile way possible where it’s basically untrainable.
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>>102647470
>FUCK BFL
i agree, black forest labs is objectively a worse company for opensource compared to even st*bility ai. their models are open weights, not opensource. they didn't write a paper about their findings, no training code, gimped license and they are distilled. nobody has figured out how to do a serious finetune on the thing yet without it collapsing, purely an ad for flux pro. fuck em.
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>>102647470
then go back to sdg. we don't want you here
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>>102647470
What are you trying to train?
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Bigma illuminates the path to salvation
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>>102647555
I've tried 100 different datasets varying from painterly style, animu/mango, art station shit, characters, whatever. I tried booru tags, boomer prompts, both, none. It doesn't matter. BFL either did some gay shit intentionally that fucks with things or their homosexual distilling "accidentally" does. every lora I've tried from others does the same thing so I know it's not some secret fucking recipe I haven't decided. I'm done with it. Shits fucked. If some Chinq model or bigma comes out I'll look into it, but I'm DONE with this shit. DONE
>>102647506
>>102647543
Seriously fuck em
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>>102647635
>haven't decided
Decoded
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>>102647635
What drives me nuts is the hands/body horror. Text, fine, I don’t have text in my dataset so it makes sense it would slide. But hands? There are plenty of normal, good hands. There’s nothing that should make hands worse. It’s an architectural level problem. They poisoned it.
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>>102646216
I pasted this thread into notebooklm.google.com and it gave me https://voca.ro/1bZAZLI0ppy9
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>>102647864
I pasted this post into /ldg/ anon and it gave me "erm... not local stinky... *posts shitty flux 1girl*"
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>>102647837
The hands/body horror is a lot worse in SD1.5/SDXL. Regardless of the limitations Flux has, it's still much easier to train than SD1.5 and SDXL in my experience.
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>>102647837
It's true. I don't get how people are just dismissing this, it's legitimately crazy how bad it gets even if you have no hands in your dataset to influence it
>>102647936
Any chance you're just making realism or people loras? It still happens with them but no where near as bad. And SDXL and such already has bad hands so you expect to still have shit hands. The difference is you can inpaint and reroll 50x in the time it takes to do with flux. Sdxl also has no where near the amount of weird body horror flux has. I feel like that has to be a result of their attempted censorship. Try a semi "lewd" dataset sometime (not outright nude) and it gets fucking weird. Suddenly 95% of your gens for that lora will look like sd3s girl laying on grass. considering it's the same team I wouldn't be too surprised if they didn't use similar methods here
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>>102647936
It’s not about the overall level. It’s about it being impossible to make a lora for flux without a noticeable spike in the amount of them from negligible to like, 5-10+% of generations. To the point that you can’t justify finetuning it because it seems likely it would just be destroyed.
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>>102648007
Fucking kek at the image holy shit, I felt that spirituality because this is the exact weird shit flux tries to pull. I don't care what anyone says, I have never had results like that with even SFW sdxl models or the base model. you get a different kind of body horror from overcooking. BFL did something intentionally fucky, the more you bake the more you'll start to notice it
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>>102648037
I trained specifically naked people, 400 images for 25k steps, so I have a samples folder full of horrors.
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>>102648007
This is some 1.5 tier stuff
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>>102648007
>>102648077
damn guys, i can't wait to get a 4090 and run this at 2 images per century!
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>>102648079
It’s what happens is you prompt a bad word you didn’t train on after training any bad word. All of the captions used “penis” and “vagina”, so if you ask for “cock” or “pussy” you get nightmares.
Next round I’m going to have two captions per image, one formal, one informal, so that a broader range of bad words are trained properly.
>>102648083
You mean 5090
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>>102647974
>Any chance you're just making realism or people loras?

I'm doing both. I do encounter nasty body horror sometimes, but it seems to be related to training settings and prompting for something that deviates too much from concepts in the dataset.

For the anime lora, I only got problems with too few fingers. The dataset had imperfect images, yet it somehow managed to make good fingers most of the time. Strangely, I never got extra fingers.

>>102648007

I've trained Flux loras with the same datasets that I used for SD1.5 and SDXL. While there's body horror, it's still a lot less than what I got with the SD loras.
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>>102648142
Yes, but with SD the amount of body horror stays about the same or goes down vs the base model. Flux goes way up. Implying that it’s impossible to finetune.
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>>102648109
Would it be possible to train text encoder separately on Flux? I did that on Pony to find the sweet spot for values. At least you'll have gens to post without getting the b, one good side to bodyhorror lul
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>>102648279
I haven’t tried training the encoder at all yet. I think I’ll try next time.
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>>102646777
use Style of Yayoi Kusama and Pareidolia, you can get some cool looking shit sometimes.
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>>102647403
got more like this man? i really likes the dick and pussy staff
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>>102647470
>I wanted to love flux
I don't think love for FLUX is even a thing.

What would happen if SD3.1 comes with Apache-2.0 license and this picture is true(ignore the one saying it for the sake of argument)?
FLUX would disappear in the same way that it appeared.
The most "hated" would exchange places with the most "loved" and every Lora maker/fine-tuner would come out and admit they where just coping. In fact, any non-distilled model, with Apache-2.0 license, that comes even close to FLUX would replace it everywhere in a matter of days.
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>>102650133
If SD3.1 8B comes out with Apache 2 I will personally fly out to France or wherever those bastards live and bear all their children with whatever euro surgeries I’m sure they have now to allow that.
Hell I’ll settle for “noncommercial but with reasonable licensing costs and without turning people away”
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>>102650133
>>102650197
bigma when
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>>102650556
what's bigma?
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>partially loaded
>83% of vram used
huh
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>>102650133
>working on hands
He really doesn't know what he's doing, huh. Maybe glorified model mergers shouldn't be trying to train a model from scratch.
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>>102646481
seriously looks like a girl I knew in highschool
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>>102650596
idk wazza bigma with you?
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>>102650831
what'd you do?
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aesthetics, people. aesthetics.
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>>102651103
>aesthetics
BFL: whuz dat?
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>>102647470
Post a lora you trained, some from civitai work good
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>>102651128
At least be fair and realize it's not COMPLETELY devoid of aesthetics. It's the hardware requirements and training mishaps that are the real problem.
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>>102651128
>3/4 view,
Congrats, you now have aEsThEtIcS
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paethetics
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>>102651595
shut up nerd
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>>102651414
>At least be fair and realize it's not COMPLETELY devoid of aesthetics
NO!
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ae.safetensorsthetics
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>>102650133
>I don't think love for FLUX is even a thing.
>What would happen if SD3.1 comes with Apache-2.0 license and this picture is true(ignore the one saying it for the sake of argument)?
FLUX would disappear in the same way that it appeared.
Congrats anon, you finally realized that people are SOTA lovers, and that's why we left SAI for BFL even though we were in love for SAI for almost 2 years straight
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Love the model not the company
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https://huggingface.co/nyanko7/flux-dev-de-distill
>This is an experiment to de-distill guidance from flux.1-dev. We removed the original distilled guidance and make true classifier-free guidance reworks.
NOW WE'RE TALKING
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>>102651788
https://huggingface.co/ostris/OpenFLUX.1
>This is a fine tune of the FLUX.1-schnell model that has had the distillation trained out of it. Flux Schnell is licensed Apache 2.0, but it is a distilled model, meaning you cannot fine-tune it. However, it is an amazing model that can generate amazing images in 1-4 steps. This is an attempt to remove the distillation to create an open source, permissivle licensed model that can be fine tuned.
I knew Flux could be saved, we just had to undistill that motherfucker, let's fucking goooooooo
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>>102651788
>>102651808
this is a good news, fuck that distilled guidance, everyone hate distilled guidance, CFG will remain king till the end of the times
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Ended using Nemo 2407. Pygmalion formatting seems to work well with it
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>>102651863
wrong thread?
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>>102651788
>20 days ago
I wonder why we never knew about that stuff before?
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>>102651917
because it's shit
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With Flux
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>>102651938
Idk man, there's some Flux haters there that say that this model is shit and yet it's gotten really popular
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>>102651808
Has anyone tried that one? He updated the weights yesterday
https://huggingface.co/ostris/OpenFLUX.1/tree/main/transformer
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>>102651872
Nah, its local bot for prompting
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>>102651808
https://huggingface.co/ostris/OpenFLUX.1/discussions/5
Kek, even the A1111 guy is interested by this project
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>>102651941
how about without flux?
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>>102652017
that's not voldy newfag
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>>102652328
close enough
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https://github.com/balazik/ComfyUI-PuLID-Flux
Do you also have this "error" when running PuLID?
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Anyone else notice Forge wants to use increasingly more vram with Flux? Maybe I should git pull.
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>>102652754
cool gen
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>>102652754
from what i've read you can just ignore it
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>>102652902
oh ok, figures, it works fine anyway, thanks
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>>102650870
the charitable reading is that he is translating what they're actually doing into something retards can get excited about
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>>102650133
https://xcancel.com/Lykon4072/status/1833824172276850770#m
Holy copium
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>>102653178
Is he gonna promote it by posting more women lying on the grass?
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>>102653298
I think SAI is done, they made a Stable Diffusion "Large", it's a 16b API model and it's dogshit, so their excuse of "ohh it can't beat flux because medium is too small" can't apply there
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>>102651991
Kekd
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>t + 2 days after pixart pride month
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>>102654075
Oh shit it's Riker episode
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>>102646861
>>102646877
the fuck is up with the blurry ass pics
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>>102654476
aesthetics
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>>102654476
you wouldn't get it
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>>102646342
>https://github.com/balazik/ComfyUI-PuLID-Flux
It works on CFG > 1 now, here's a comparison between CFG 1 and CFG 6 (AutomaticCFG)
https://imgsli.com/MzAxOTY5

Workflow: https://files.catbox.moe/qcths5.png
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>>102654554
got more examples?
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>>102654728
Those were made at CFG 6
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>>102654763
got anymore? i've already seen those
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>>102651808
>>102651788
>>102651985
>>102652017
>Flux Schnell is licensed Apache 2.0, but it is a distilled model, meaning you cannot fine-tune it...

Finally, after over 9000 years, someone admits that distillation can(and will) be used to prevent fine-tuning.

After all that shit talking about the INVOKE guy. I almost felt that I was wrong because of the mass hysteria.
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>>102654801
>i've already seen those
but you didn't know they were on CFG 6, if you want more I had also put some on the previous thread in case you haven't seen them
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>>102654816
>someone admits
no one ever tried a real finetune on the distilled model, so how can we know it will really prevent anything?
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>>102654476
they're not ass pics, they're tit pics
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illustriousXL is pretty good so far OH GOD KILL IT WITH FIRE
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>>102651917
Because
1) It's the inferior schnell model
2) It's impossible to test its finetuning capabilities because no trainer supports it

Right now all we have is the author's claim.
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>>102655075
AI Train You !!
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>>102655075
>Still finetuning SDXL in the year of our lord 2024
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>>102654909
Distillation is not something new(SDXL Turbo).
Also the devs from simpletuner knew since the beginning of the aprox 10000 steps training limit before representation collapse.
People simple did not want to believe it.
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>>102655149
I still don't believe it, it's not because someone decided to undistill Flux that it means that it's impossible to finetune distilled Flux. Anyways, disagreement aside, I'm glad there's some people willing to undistil it though, CFG is a really important shit and Flux deserves that
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>>102655149
Is there a link to this? I'm curious of what parameters they used to test this.
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>>102647403
What do you guys do to stop porch thieves
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>>102655383
ask them to wait their turn i don't mind sharing
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>>102646342
I guess that going for the celebrity's name on PuLID instead of going for "A man" is a worse idea
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>>102655177
>>102655244
https://github.com/black-forest-labs/flux/issues/9
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>>102655637
Interesting. Thank you for posting these findings. Kinda counter intuitive I suppose.
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>>102646799
>>102646811
>>102646819
>>102646904
nice br'ish slags you got there m8 i'll be just be taking them for a shag and a lil o the 'ol in & out
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>>102655075
would
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>>102655744
and no loras that are in civitai went for 10k+ steps?
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>>102655637
Why not just make inpainting better?
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>>102656344
because I don't want to do inpainting, I want to write a prompt and get my celebrity do funni things, simple as that lol
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>>102656190
The number of steps is irrelevant without knowing the other parameters.
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>>102656483
Nice. Great bit
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>>102656344
Are you suggesting we inpaint celeb faces instead? Not possible
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>>102656483
is that like ipadapter but for flux? shit looks WAY less complex than any ipadapter setup ive seen.
>And obviously better quality
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>>102656792
yeah, PuLID has been a thing for a while now, his main rival is instantID but so far we only have a PuLID model made especially for Flux so I went with that one
https://github.com/balazik/ComfyUI-PuLID-Flux
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08c8f7vCoyM
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it's not 100% accurate but the PuLID guys are gonna release a better model this month
https://github.com/ToTheBeginning/PuLID
> update plan
>release PuLID-FLUX-v0.9.1 model in 2024.10
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https://huggingface.co/ostris/OpenFLUX.1
https://huggingface.co/Kijai/OpenFLUX-comfy
looks like we can try this one out on ComfyUi, has anyone tried it yet?
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>>102656963
>still 11.9gb fp8 weight
sh-shit.. Should i still give this a shot at 8gb of vram? it'll just be like.. 20s/it instead of 30 like before right?
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>>102657024
this fp8 is still the same size as the regular flux anon
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>>102657042
awwww
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>>102657052
why won't you try the lower quants though? it'll fit your 8GB vram card >>102646920
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>>102657073
does openflux have any?
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>>102657085
nope... but you could quantize the original model into a GGUF by yourself I guess
https://github.com/city96/ComfyUI-GGUF/tree/main/tools
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Do you think it makes sense to build all your prompts in schnell (I'm talking like 150+ prompts here) and then only later on render them all with dev?
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>>102656963
>has anyone tried it yet?
It's definitely working, nice, I went for CFG 3.5 (like it was suggested on the model card) and there's no burning at all
https://files.catbox.moe/s1ybo1.png
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>>102657247
No, that's a bad idea. Schnell has different prompt interpretation than Dev.
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>>102657423
kek that looks like a 1.5 gen
>but at least it can render text right?
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>>102657444
>but at least it can render text right?
yeah, the text is still fine, but I think it looks like ass because it's simply Schnell, I wish he did the same thing for Dev but I guess that he won't do it because of the licence
>A man skateboarding and holding a sign that says "It's a made up tale.", Van Gogh painting style
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>>102657524
It's definitely not a distilled model anymore, Schnell could draw things at 8 steps easily, here it's not the case anymore
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Does anyone know latent composite node with gui? So instead of putting numbers you just edit the colored boxes, I don't remember the node name.
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>>102657524
The point is having a good base for finetuners to work with. Dev is better but no one is gonna invest tens of thousands into a proper finetune on a non commercial license version.
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>>102657423
>CFG 1
Undistilling Flux means that you won't be able to go for CFG 1 anymore, Flux is already slow but now you have to deal with something twice as slow lol
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>>102658004
Could always redistill after fine-tuning. Also 5090 should make gens as fast as sdxl was lol.
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>>102658042
>Could always redistill after fine-tuning
kek, doesn't sound too crazy but there's a lot of advantages for going for undistilled models, they can use the regular CFG so that you get better prompt understanding for example
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>>102657423
kek, the Flux Dev loras somehow """"works"""" on that undistilled Schnell model
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>>102656963
Ok I went for the undistilled version of flux dev, it's not burning at CFG 6 but dunno why it's always making those completely white eyes lol
https://huggingface.co/nyanko7/flux-dev-de-distill
https://huggingface.co/MinusZoneAI/flux-dev-de-distill-fp8
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>>102658393
nice
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>>102658370
>it's always making those completely white eyes lol
kek it's because it was at 30 steps, at 50 steps it works better
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>>102658494
>CFG 1
yikes...
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>>102658494
how long did that take?
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>>102658538
it's as fast as the regular flux at fp8, so for my 3090 it was something like this:
50/50 [02:33<00:00, 3.06s/it]
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>>102658550
damn how long does it take you for 30 steps?
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>>102658595
it's always 3s/it at CFG > 1 so you multiply that by 30
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>>102658537
sovl....
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>>102654075
Nice
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>>102655637
Damn it made him fat
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>>102655744
Dev has the same problem. Fuck BFL for poisoning the well.
>>102656190
You want this shit?
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>>102659022
that the penis arm lora? it's one of my favorite loras
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>>102659022
>Dev has the same problem. Fuck BFL for poisoning the well.
try that model anon, that guy undistilled dev >>102658370
from my initial testings, he didn't hurt the regular dev too much and it's working fine at cfg 6, no burning or whatsoever
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>>102659050
man that gen is mfw having to see this shit >>102659022
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>>102658146
That’s actually kind of huge
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>>102659060
i really don't see the point in even using flux if the anatomy is almost as bad as 1.5, on par with XL/Pony with none of the positives.
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>>102659082
>the anatomy is almost as bad as 1.5, on par with XL/Pony
>none of the positives.
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>>102659066
>That’s actually kind of huge
it's not really, it's broken, like yeah it kinda get how it should like, but there's a shit ton of artifacts, make it useless
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>>102659114
I'm running the fp8 version, I wish there was a Q8 version of that undistilled model, how do we make gguf? I wanna try
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>>102659022
desu love this
>>102659097
>he didnt save meme anons b8 gens
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>IT'S fp8
>IT'S just a failgen
>IT'S NOT BAD
hey i'm willing to concede with flux being a good model, you just have to admit you have awful standards for what each model should be able to do and stop coping with this aids looking anatomy that reminds me of the 1.5 days and saying "well at least it's not fried/sd3"
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>>102659060
If one of the training libraries makes the changes to support it I’ll run the latest “penis arm” (now general realistic and hentai NSFW) dataset on it and see. I’ve tried so many different things that it’s probably the only hope for it.
(For the record it never makes body horror gore for anime which is interesting/unexplainable)
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>>102659062
lol, the pic of the guy laying in bed staring at his arm penis is p good tho.
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>>102659155
>this aids looking anatomy
what the fuck are you talking about? Flux's anatomy is insane, and you're critisizing an undistilled version, I just tried this shit for less than an hour it's probably a broken piece of shit
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>>102659155
It would be more appropriate to use the base model as a comparison instead some random anon's gen from his lora.
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>>102659187
>If one of the training libraries makes the changes to support it
I dunno what has to be changed for training, but for the inference part it's working fine, comfyUi recognize it like the regular flux
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>>102657553
>>102658146
Does it work with Hyper Flux.d 8steps lora?
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>>102659254
no lora will work with those models, you'll get artifacts, you can try it though
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>>102658370
>Ok I went for the undistilled version of flux dev,
that picture is on cfg 6, no antiburner, no nothing, that's quite impressive it really kept the flux dev quality while removing this distilled guidance bullshit
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>>102659262
but that anon said it """werks"""
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>>102659280
you use a trump lora? mine never come out decent
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>>102659309
I can't use loras on flux-dev-de-distill so it's vanilla, and I had no issues with trump on base dev either, dunno why yours look that bad, can you show a screen of your workflow anon?
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>>102659335
i'm just fucking around, it's because i'm using Style of Botero.
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>>102659155
Is this a /lmg/ meme?
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>>102658370
I really think people should switch from dev to this model now, the quality is still good and it's undistilled, meaning that you won't have issues making loras or finetunes from it
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>>102659228
Not sure. I don’t want to be the Guinea pig because setting it up again takes time. If nobody else has by tomorrow I’ll try.
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>>102659491
which part? It checks a lot of boxes. Lecun gets misquoted a fuckton on this board. Being tired of the "most recent tech" fanboys is also meme worthy.
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>>102659535
I expected it to shit its pants at steps 20 because it's not distilled anymore but it's still working fine
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>>102659125
>I wish there was a Q8 version of that undistilled model, how do we make gguf? I wanna try
Use this anon
https://github.com/leejet/stable-diffusion.cpp/blob/master/docs/quantization_and_gguf.md
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>>102659535
we're so back
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>>102659604
oh yeah, now that it's undistilled we can use negative prompts, lets fucking goooooooo
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Anyone training loras on the undistilled model?
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>>102658370
Some things are broken on this undistilled version though, for whatever reason it decided to go for a black and white drawing when I just asked a 80's anime style
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>>102659660
yikes, it completely shits its pants when going for a negative prompt, this model is promising but not ready at all, probably need more training
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>>102659604
blurry image in negative, pic is still blurry

what does this mean?

>>102659702
Try ditching adaptive guider


>>102659702
why are you using SDXL node
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>>102659758
>blurry image in negative, pic is still blurry
the photo dataset is like 95% blurry instagram headshots
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>>102659660
>for whatever reason it decided to go for a black and white drawing when I just asked a 80's anime style
I found the issue, seems like cfg 6 is too high for that model, I went back to cfg 3 and I got something interesting
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>>102659795
once again proving hands are fucked as soon as you start to fiddle with flux, though... its just not worth it
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>>102659758
>>102659772
>>102659792
>bitches leave
>robolady turns 360 degrees and walks away
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>>102659795
cfg 6 has been too high for like 18 months lol
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>>102659824
kek, anon has been using way too much cfg nodes and thinks 100 cfg is normal
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>>102659824
>cfg 6 has been too high for like 18 months lol
what? cfg 7 was the norm during the SD1.5/SDXL days
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i'm liking this model so far, feels like the model is finally free of its chains
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>>102659813
Hands look fine?
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>he actually uses CFG nodes
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>>102659813
>hands are fucked as soon as you start to fiddle with flux, though
what?
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>>102659884
>i'm liking this model so far, feels like the model is finally free of its chains
what model?
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>>102658370
Really impressive, I got the good prompt adherance from high CFG without the burn
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>>102659936
>https://huggingface.co/Kijai/OpenFLUX-comfy
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>>102659965
I'm interested on your feedback, you used Schnell before right? What makes OpenFlux better than vanilla Schenell in your opinion?
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>>102659965
Is it as good as dev?
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>>102659989
>Is it as good as dev?
not even close, it's still schnell, but distilled >>102657524, if you want a dev equivalent you can go for that one >>102658370
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>>102659813
Worth what, the download time?
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I just noticed I lost all my mermaid images I had saved for training loras on SDXL. Now I want to make one for flux but I am going to have rescrape the internet, and it is flooded with AI images now. The existing mermaid loras aren't getting it done.
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>>102659985
Nope, the gimmick of this model is that you can ditch the fluxguidence shit and use a CFG value like a normal person, that means that you can add a negative prompt, play with the cfg values, etc
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>>102660025
Damn. I wonder how much it would take to bring it up to dev.
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>>102660080
I think it's really close to vanilla dev >>102659952
>>102659795
>>102659280
the issue is that all the loras that were created from vanilla dev doesn't work that much on that one, but this model can be finetuned, that's all we asked after all, we can't go forward if we can't finetune flux, so undistilled models will be the future
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>>102660080
there is a flux dev dedistilled and it's about a million times better than the schnell one and lets you use high cfg

https://huggingface.co/MinusZoneAI/flux-dev-de-distill-fp8/tree/main
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>>102660051
>you can add a negative prompt
it works well on that model?
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>>102660118
> it's about a million times better than the schnell one

you shouldn't talk in absolutes anon
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>>102660245
I think so, may be placebo, but you can see the images of robolady I posted, I used a simple negative prompt about image quality

and
>>102660271
this one is godzilla vs robolady with the dev-distilled, i think both are right but (pic related.) feels more better quality style wise
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>>102660330
this is open flux btw and (pic rel.) too
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>>102658370
I think that poor model got some catastrophic forgetting, everytime you say "drawing" it goes fucking black and white
>A colour drawing of Hatsune Miku with dreadlocks and a black skin showing her fists on the street
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oops, forgot pic
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>>102659659
>Anyone training loras on the undistilled model?
I think loras work fine on the undistilled dev model if you go for CFG 3
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this is: flux-dev-de-distill-fp8
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The dev unstilled version can be used with dev loras. It does respond better to prompts. Wish there were gguf versions.
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>>102660420
it has a lot of noise, I think you went for a too low CFG?
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>>102660420
this is openflux
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>>102660433
>The dev unstilled version can be used with dev loras. It does respond better to prompts.
care to show some images?

>Wish there were gguf versions.
I'm actually trying to quant the model to Q8, but the build is so fucking looong
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cfg is too low yes. i think that open-flux is not fully dedistilled, which is why you can not use cfg > 6 and why even low cfg looks like cfg 20 on sdxl.
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>>102660440
maybe but im using my schizo settings too, I think both versions are good tho.
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>>102660452
They're nsfw. It's actually a remake of a pussy lora from civitai using the dataset that the uploader provided.
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>>102660433
>The dev unstilled version can be used with dev loras.
indeed, this is Monty Python loras with flux dev undistilled at cfg 4
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>>102660482
Did you find a sweet spot in terms of CFG? I should make a XY plot but I'm so fucking lazy right now kek
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>>102660482
NSFW as in fully nsfw or nsfw as in nipples, clitless outer labias and thinking men have vaginas?
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Guess who has the flux-dev-de-distill-Q8_0.gguf? :^)
It was surprisignly easy to do GGUF quants, I expected something way more hardcore lol, I'll be uploading this one on huggingface for those interested, stay tuned!
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>>102660543
what is this sd 3?
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>>102660810
>what is this sd 3?
looks too good to be sd3
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>>102660783
Not gonna lie, they all look weird, maybe cfg 4 and 6 are fine but Idk, maybe loras work fine in that distilled model with the right cfg
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>>102660404
The dev model is also distilled. pro is untouched
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>>102661016
>The dev model is also distilled
we were talking about de un-distilled dev model
https://huggingface.co/nyanko7/flux-dev-de-distill
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>>102661107
Very good
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>>102661116
my best work yet
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honey i can't believe we got this starter house for only $3.2 million!!! have some prison coffee!
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in soviet china car park in apartment balcony
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>>102661168
sign of the times
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So now that we have an undistilled schnell (apache 2.0 licensed), there's no reason for the pony dev to not train the new model on it, right? Like in what world could auraflow possibly be better than undistilled flux schnell.
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>>102661250
>So now that we have an undistilled schnell (apache 2.0 licensed), there's no reason for the pony dev to not train the new model on it, right?
I think he went for auraflow because it's overall less expensive, flux is a fat motherfucker (12b) so it needs a lot of GPUs for the finetune
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>>102661302
The American Dream.
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>>102661351
innit tho

so many bazinga mobiles self driving into guard rails and shit.. its the future we all dreamed of
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>>102646216
what are the weird images on the right?
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>>102660783
See you in two years, thanks.



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