Discussion of free and open source text-to-image modelsPrevious /ldg/ bread : >>102672706>Beginner UI Fooocus: https://github.com/lllyasviel/fooocusEasyDiffusion: https://easydiffusion.github.ioMetastable: https://metastable.studio>Advanced UI Forge: https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forgeAutomatic1111: https://github.com/automatic1111/stable-diffusion-webuiComfyUI: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUIInvokeAI: https://github.com/invoke-ai/InvokeAISD.Next: https://github.com/vladmandic/automaticSwarmUI: https://github.com/mcmonkeyprojects/SwarmUI>Use a VAE if your images look washed out https://rentry.org/sdvae>Model Ranking https://imgsys.org/rankings>Models, LoRAs & training https://civitai.comhttps://huggingface.cohttps://aitracker.arthttps://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainerhttps://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scriptshttps://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scripts/tree/sd3>Flux https://huggingface.co/spaces/black-forest-labs/FLUX.1-schnellhttps://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples/flux>Pixart Sigma & Hunyuan DIT https://huggingface.co/spaces/PixArt-alpha/PixArt-Sigmahttps://huggingface.co/comfyanonymous/hunyuan_dit_comfyuiNodes: https://github.com/city96/ComfyUI_ExtraModels>Index of guides and other tools https://rentry.org/sdg-linkhttps://rentry.org/rentrysd>Try online without registration txt2img: https://www.mage.spaceimg2img: https://huggingface.co/spaces/huggingface/diffuse-the-restsd3: https://huggingface.co/spaces/stabilityai/stable-diffusion-3-medium>Maintain thread quality https://rentry.org/debo>Related boards >>>/aco/sdg>>>/aco/aivg>>>/b/degen>>>/c/kdg>>>/d/ddg>>>/e/edg>>>/h/hdg>>>/tg/slop>>>/trash/sdg>>>/u/udg>>>/vt/vtai
Blessed thread of frenship
>>102687080was your original plan to wait until previous dropped off the catalogue or
ok that's better
>>102687116just let the troll thread die and keep this one
>>102687080how do I fix memory overflow after some time?Currently using a 16gb card with -medvram, but still after 10-15 images there are memory errors and I have to reduce resolution or restart. Is there any solution to do some kind of "soft reset" after a certain anmount of images or some flag that avoids this problem?
>>102687436you have memory leak anon, it's when the memory requirement increase more and more because it hasn't removed some stuff that should be removed, what are you using? Forge? Because I don't have that on ComfyUi, you should make an issue about that so that he'll try to fix it
Use the real thread>>102686942>>102686942>>102686942
It's time to merge back with /sdg/...United, we're strong...
>>102687080Interested to see more gens of big titted witchy Morena.
>>102687111Neat
>>102687623i wanna talk about tech tho
>>102687686And you can do that there.
>>102687658thanks>>102687577fuck you, now you've resorted to reporting, what a bitch kek>>102687623that avatar infested place, ugh...
>>102687729>he says, while posting with an avatar
>>102687577no
>>102686615>https://huggingface.co/ashen0209/Flux-Dev2Pro>https://huggingface.co/bdsqlsz/flux1-dev2pro-singleHas anon tried this?
>>102687752I was about too but then I saw his model card, sounds sus as fuck, fucking millions of pictures used to undistill that shit? yeah I'm not buying it
>>102687700nah, you really can't. Vibe is off.
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>>102687700>And you can do that there.you absolutely can't, everytime I go to /sdg/ they talk about anything but tech, which is fine they have the right to talk about whatever they want, but I'm glad they're finally a place to talk about the news or about new papers and shit, that's interesting to me
>>102687934boring prompt
>>102687752I doubt these models are significantly different than the ones mentioned earlier.I've tried a dedistilled dev model for genning and didn't notice any meaningful difference compared to dev. For lora training, it was bad. The dedistilling process probably only improve some aspects of the model while making other aspects worse.
>>102688181>For lora training, it was baddid you use the same hyperparameters than the distilled version though? if yes then it's probably better to searsh for other settings, as the model is different from the distilled one I guess
SOTA model they say...
>>102688232>SOTA model they say...why is it so blurry? what model is this?
>>102688236anon...
>>102688198Yes, I used the same settings. But, what would be the setting(s) to experiment with? It seems that it might be an undertraining problem but my learning rate is already pretty high at 0.0003, which is around the value that Prodigy uses for most of my loras.
prompt: "totally forgot this guy was world champion"
>>102688260if we could predict what hyperparameter would be the best for each situation, it would be nice, but we don't, you have to try some try and retry shit, can you see the loss function during training? that can help and tell you if you're going into the right direction or not
>>102688281>>102688232finally some good fucking prompting
Do not engage with him
>>102688260>0.0003I know this is similar to the LR other people are using for flux, but man it seems high. I've been using 5e-5 with global batch size of 16, and even that is sometimes too high depending on the exact dataset I'm training on. Like I've seen instances where I lower that to 2.5e-5 and the validation loss decreases more stably and reaches a lower value compared to 5e-5. This is all with AdamW optimizer. And then I see people using literally an order of magnitude higher LR.Also once again I will complain about nobody but me even measuring validation loss. You guys are fucking retards, all of you, especially the training script creators who apparently don't see the need for adding what should be the single most important metric to track when training any ML model.
>>102688402>Also once again I will complain about nobody but me even measuring validation loss. You guys are fucking retards, all of you, especially the training script creators who apparently don't see the need for adding what should be the single most important metric to track when training any ML model.this, I'm a data scientist and when I learned you can't even see the most basic shit as a validation loss to actually see if your Lora training is good or not, I couldn't believe my eyes and I had to see it by myself, what the fuck are you all doing? lmao
>>102688402>>102688427How do you measure it?
>>102688438you have a lot of ways to measure a lossMean Squared Error (MSE), Structural Similarity Index (SSIM), Inception Score (IS),Fréchet Inception Distance (FID)... I'm not a specialist but FID is often used in paper so I guess that's the best thing to measure?
>>102688402>You guys are fucking retards, all of you, especially the training script creators who apparently don't see the need for adding what should be the single most important metric to track when training any ML model.https://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scripts/discussions/294there has been a really long discussion about the usefulness of a loss function on text to image models
>>102688402>You guys are fucking retardstheres only like one anon here whose poasted good flux loras desu
>>102688438I made local changes to kohya to measure and log the loss on a held out set of images.>>102688490I ain't reading all that schizo shit. Maybe they're onto something who knows. But I'm not talking about changes to training loss function. I mean I compute the same thing as the training loss, just on a set of images that isn't trained on. And use fixed RNG seeds so the noise sampled is always the same for all images each time, so the loss is stable. It makes a very nice decreasing smooth curve, as opposed to the huge random variability in the training loss which is caused by randomness in timestep sampling and noise sampling.
>>102688536>And use fixed RNG seeds so the noise sampled is always the same for all images each timeI don't think that's a good idea at all, non-fixed noise provide data augmentation and helps the model to generalize better, what you're doing here is to make the model great at one noise, one seed, it'll be shit elsewhere
>animanon abandoned ldgits over
>>102688556I was probably not very clear. Training is unmodified. For measuring the loss on the validation images, I use a fixed seed for the RNG, that's it. The noise is still random and different for each image, but crucially each image gets the same noise each time. So if you compute validation loss, then do it again with no changes to the lora weights, the loss value is identical. And if the model learns a little bit, the loss decreases a bit in a stable, predictable manner. If you sample different random noise each time, the loss value swings wildly due to pure RNG (e.g. see the training loss which is already logged by sd-scripts).
>>102688284My loss was at around 0.35 by the end of training. If goes below 0.40, then it's usually a good sign. The sample images didn't look promising at all. The model seemed to be having difficulty learning the new concept.
>>102688626>My loss was at around 0.35 by the end of training. If goes below 0.40, then it's usually a good sign.you're talking about the lora training on distilled dev right? what loss did you have on the undistilled one?
>>102688609>The noise is still random and different for each image>but crucially each image gets the same noise each time. what?
>>1026886450.35 was for the undistilled one. For the distilled one, I think was around that value too. I don't really pay attention to the loss as it doesn't tell at all me how the lora would turn out. But, if the loss is above 0.50 for the first 100 steps or so, it usually means the parameters are bad.
>good lord I feel like i'm dyin
>>102688651Ok this makes sense in my head but clearly not for others.When I run validation loss, image1 gets noise a. Image2 gets noise b. Etc. When I compute validation loss again, image1 still gets noise a, and image2 noise b. The noise is different for each image in the validation set, but it's stable for single image across validation computations.
>>102688402>Also once again I will complain about nobody but me even measuring validation loss. You guys are fucking retards, all of youI don't get it, some people are having a validation loss during the training, like this guy >>102688699
>>102688732I see... that sound simplistic and non intuitive (because you won't get the same peaks of erros even if you get the same pattern of noice for each order of picture as a new set of picture will react differently to noise) but if you got clean loss function from that, then heh why not I guess?
>>102688749I'm pretty sure they're all talking about training loss. I don't think any of the major training scripts allows you to compute validation loss out of the box.
>>102688749Unless someone comes up with something better, for me, sample images are the best indicator on whether or not the training is going well.
>>102688402Isn't loss validation visualizing literally what tensorboard does.... Or is that something else?
>>102688397Who?
No really is this not what anon is sperging about? https://civitai.com/articles/83/using-tensorboard-to-analyze-training-data-and-create-better-models.....
>>102688870if validation loss is really useful then why the fuck kohya still doesn't have integrated it on his repo? Somethin's not right there
>>102688916I mean it is integrated, in the form of tensorboard.. why would he recreate something that already exists and people have used forever..? kinda embarrassing that anon got so worked up about everyone being retards then didn't know about fucking tensorboard lol
>>102688931I mean, like you can directly see the validation loss through kohya or you have to add something external to see it?
>>102688847>>102688870Holy mother of god I don't even know where to start.Fucking EVERYTHING in that article is wrong and will mislead you. JFC now I'm truly sperging.loss/epoch in Tensorboard for kohya is the training loss for each epoch. Despite being averaged over the whole dataset, it's still somewhat noisy due to randomness in sampling the timestep (which greatly influences the loss value) and specific noise pattern for each image.Picrel is absolute fucking nonsense. Those lowest points are due to random chance alone. Assuming you're not using a learning rate way too high, training smoothly and gradually fits the images. Measuring a stabilized validation loss makes this clear. And a stabilized training loss (e.g. fixed seed to the RNG) would smoothly decrease all the way to 0 with enough training.
>>102688940>Measuring a stabilized validation loss makes this clear. And a stabilized training loss (e.g. fixed seed to the RNG) would smoothly decrease all the way to 0 with enough training.isn't waiting for a stabilized training loss "too late"? like you go on the overtrained territory no?
>>102688931I'm gonna lose my shit.Top 3 are the TRAINING losses, that kohya gives you by default. These are average losses on the images that are being trained on.The others are custom, stabilized validation losses I added. These are loss values computed on a set of images that are not trained on. That's what validation is. Kohya cannot do this by default, nor can any other training script as far as I'm aware.Read a machine learning book you fucking retards.
>>102688938Glance at the the Civit article, it shows it better... Tensorboard was lauded as some holy grail on shitvit and Reddit forever, but it fell out as more people stopped giving a shit. It's a seperate install but it's even part of the bmaltais Gui, I'm like half certain you get messages about it in the command window if you don't have it enabled even>>102688940Yeah I don't give a fuck about what the shitveet article says no one listens to the stuff on there, the point is to show the obvious integration of tensorboard your majesty overlooked. Dude, if you wanted to know if such a thing existed I would've told you way sooner if you weren't such an unrepentant sped about it - I was ignoring your posts entirely up til now because of how obnoxious you were acting before I caught on to what you were flipping out about. Jfc
>>102688966>The others are custom, stabilized validation losses I added.>Kohya cannot do this by default, nor can any other training script as far as I'm aware.have you created a repo so we can all benefit from those new loss function? that looks interesting
>>102688966>I'm gonna lose my shit.You already did you annoying faggot, in multiple threads now. And when some of the poor clueless anons asked you to share your """divine knowledge""" you just flipped out more and went off about modifying kohya yourself. If you're such a heaven sent genius PR it, you insufferable retard. Filtering you from here out
It's been 2 years since the image model boom and people are still debating on whether a validation loss is actually usefull during trainingHoly fuck... I'm almost ashamed to be on this community now
>>102689004you just posted a reaction of marge simpson, if you going to be embarrassed you really gotta step yo game up
>>102688995>If you're such a heaven sent genius PR it, you insufferable retard.this, he sounds like a peculant retard who contributes nothing, if he feels this is an important feature, then make a fucking PR and shut the fuck up
>The End of Local Image Generation Edition
i love these threads late night, either chill images or people shooting straight fire
>>102689033same, there's something special about arguing with people online about some technical stuff at 5am, you know you'll never get to experience this in real life lol
>>102689004The vast majority of people don't know anything about ML, and get very defensive when you call that out. Like I wasn't even hardly sperging at first, I was just like "hey it's kinda weird that nobody measure validation loss cuz it's very useful". Then even after explaining what that is and what I'm doing, people are confused. Then some anon jumps in like "hehe doesn't this guy know that this thing called tensorboard exists and already has that, kind of embarrassing...". I call him out for being a retard and everyone acts like I'm the asshole./lmg/ where I spend most of my time is nowhere near this dumb, just saying...
>>102689070the person everyone is making fun of is you, anon, read a room. yikes.
>>102689081go back
>>102689070I get what you're saying anon, validation loss is way more useful than training loss, but what's preventing you on making a PR or a github repo so that people can use your graph functions, if you want to educate people more on that matter, I think it's a good idea to make it accessible to people so that they can clearly see its usefullness
>>102689070>/lmg/ where I spend most of my time is nowhere near this dumb, just saying...head on back fag, you've contributed literally nothing but shit stains all over the thread
>>102689089>>102689085
>>102688699>0.35 was for the undistilled one. For the distilled onethat's precisely why we need a validation loss, training loss isn't enough to see the real difference between 2 trainings
>>102689070Yep, This is one of the many reasons local users can't train a model by themselves.
>>102689086The code is kind of a mess, and only for the lora training scripts in kohya, not the others. Really koyha should be the one adding a validation loss option that works in a generalizable way for all the scripts he has.Also at this point I'd want to make a new github not tied to my normie account (which is linked to my real life identify, company, etc) to send the PR. Maybe eventually if I have time. Better would be to raise an issue and beg kohya to do it I think.
>>102689070Really hard to create val loss for image generation though, this can at least help detecting overfitting https://github.com/WangWenhao0716/PDF-EmbeddingEither way its kind of useless, at the end of the day the best metric ends up being just generating a bunch of images and going off of how they look
>>102689119Great, so you offered everyone nothing, taught everyone nothing, and are still doing absolutely nothing, while sperging
>>102689121>Really hard to create val loss for image generation though, this can at least help detecting overfittingnot just overfitting, its final value can help on finding better parameters, say you end up with a value of 0.45 on validation loss end, and then you change parameters and end up with a value of 0.40, you know that you've found better hyperparameters, and that's something more objective than "just see the output pictures with your eyes" I guess
>>102689121>at the end of the day the best metric ends up being just generating a bunch of images and going off of how they lookAgreed, but you have to be careful about this. A lot of people when they train e.g. a character lora, will test it by prompting for images very similar to their training images. So when the model starts severely overfitting the training set and borderline memorizing the images, the character likeness actually looks really good, but the lora is extremely limited in what it can do. But they'll go based off that and release an extremely overfitted lora that causes all sorts of problems. Validation loss would tell you you're overfitting.>>102689132good, not my job to spoonfeed or handhold you faggots
>>102689119>I'd want to make a new github not tied to my normie account (which is linked to my real life identify, company, etc) to send the PRgithub doesn't allow you to make multiple account for free though, I tried that and my 2nd account couldn't be seen by others lol, I find this absolutely retarded, I also want to make one account for my professional identity, and one that is completely anonymous aswell
>>102689167>will test it by prompting for images very similar to their training images1girl standing and its consequences to the image generation community
>>102689186>1girl standing and its consequences to the image generation communityI still pray for the day that people will realize that training a model with 3 poses max will only make this model good at 3 poses and will shit the bed for the 147859 poses remaining in the history of human anatomy
>>102687080i like the collage especially the addition of the sprites in the middle
>be retard>use chatgpt to try and keep up with smart people in thread>chatgpt hits me with thisfuck
>>102689262>Maybe now you'll have a clue about what you're doinglmaoooo
How bout that
>>102689402lmao I love this, I used to have a cute little yellow bird with orange cheeks like that
>>102689457
Not feeling any of my images, sorry. Maybe another break is in order.
>>102689262Chatgpt can be very misleading sometimes. I only take what it says with a grain of salt.
>>102689212Since it sounds like you're very good at this, can you show some examples to inspire people at least?
>A drawing of Hatsune Miku walking over a multicolored ball in New YorkLooks like flux un-destill doesn't know what a drawing is anymore, it always goes for a sketch instead
https://github.com/MythicalChu/ComfyUI-APG_ImYourCFGNow>Two smiling women in Hatsune Miku costumes hugging each other in a busy mall store with lots of clutter around them. they are wearing white shoes. three people are working in the background.https://imgsli.com/MzAyNjY0I'm having trouble finding which one between APG and CFG is the best, what do you think?
exe frontend when?
>>102690126APG but post more comparisons
>>102690139>>102688313
>>102690126apg except for miku hair
>>102690126APG is much more realistic, not only the Mikus themselves but things like the texturing on that wooden panel on the left, emphasis of the boxes on the shelves being separate, the woman in the background's mangled face being hidden, etc
where can I download a q4 version of the distilled model
Can FLUX do lewd yet?
>>102690575Not as well as many but yes
>>102690603oops wrong thread
>>102690827these are damn nice
>>102690827Damn, you can actually make a game with these. I'm feeling xcom - doom crossover.
>>102690827I hope someone makes a Fallout lora
>>102690827Awesome!
pony merge
>>102692245
DPM++ 2M CFG++, cfg scale 2, 26 steps
>>102692375Model link?
So how did loras on the dedistilled fluxes go?
>>102692439Haven't uploaded yet
I'm experimenting with outpainting atm. This is my first time doing ai stuff.any tips on how to improve my output?how important are the promts when it comes to outpainting pics?especially when the input is not ai generated.
>>1026923751girl printer v2?
why did the general die?
>>102694065Because you touch yourself at night
Anon training or out getting laid come back later
>>102694065You know why
>>102694065>diesource?
>>102694065You'd have to be mentally ill if all you do is post the same images over and over again. As the other guy said, you'd either be training stuff or be doing other things like actually using the AI models.
>>102688281haha nice
>>102693466You have a good base, first if you're doing anime style you might wanna use an euler (euler ancestral) sampler rather the dpmpp, because euler samplers tend to have less noise compared to dpmpp, second I would swtich the vae encode for impainting for "Set Latent Noise Mask" which Imho works better. (also install other custom nodes that will help you with the masks, pic rel.)If you wanna add some more "advance" stuff I'd suggest you install ipadapters nodes and play with them, there are some interesting ones like "style transfer" that might help you to keep the aesthetic of the image you want to outpaint, making it seamlesshttps://github.com/cubiq/ComfyUI_IPAdapter_plus
>>102692612What's taking so long.
>>102694273Redditor made this post.
hibernation mode
yawn... time to schleep till bigma.. *cocks gun* *bang* .........................................
>>102694505uploading
I legitimately don't understand why so many UIs make you jump through hoops with install pip and pytorch and external environments and all thatWhy not set it up so when you run the shell command it checks for what you have and installs what you need? Seems needlessly complicated to just automatically close the terminal if something is missing instead of fixing it then trying again
>>102694740Where did you get this picture of me?
>>102694766All also add in that I think it's legitimate and understandable to gatekeep hobbies but from a convenience perspective it's just ridiculous. I don't get why they would set it up so it can't just install whatever it needs on a clean install of something like Mint or Endeavour and instead relies on the user to figure out what's missing
>>102694766Yeah I don't get why it doesn't put in your GPU either or why it can't just work on your 10 year old Athlon CPU.
>>102694815You can't imagine a version where the install prompt has something like "Nvidia card Y/N"
>>102694065pedo drift: the tendency over time for full-time coomers to become pedos. notice how it's mostly the 1girlers who disappeared. Lot of normies weren't ready for image AI to unleash their demons
>>102687080Alright, help a brainlet out (no it's not program install help or some bullshit)What is an embedding/textual inversion? I know checkpoints and loras are training data that also holds images, but an embedding is so much smaller and works wonderfully.Do embeddings have images on the embeddings is moreso my question. It's 1am here and it's literally keeping me awake thinking about it. I read on the civitai wiki that it's tokenization, but does that mean it's all "verbal" tokenization as opposed to "visual"? I'm a fucking retard, pls halpHere's garbage I genned.
>>102694827They already do. You're bitching because it's not doing magnitudes more handholding for you. It literally can't be simpler and if you can't manage it then you really can't be trusted with AI either.
>tfw civitai removed my Aika LoRa:(
>>102694857Uhhh, can we get that Lora here boss?
>>102694850embeddings as far as I'm aware, and I might be remembering wrong, are like a conditioning trained on images, so instead of having to prompt with text approximating those kinds of images and convert the text to a conditioning (ie, normal prompting), you just put in the embedding instead and the prompt is then a further modification of that.
>>102694865sure, where can I upload it where it doesnt get removed?
>>102694850Embeddings tease out images that are in the training data and the model already has existing, buried knowledge of. They're small because they're just the hints needed to get the model to produce those images.
>>102694857Why?
>>102694929>Hi there! I'm writing because we've been contacted by T-Powers, an entertainment agency, requesting the removal of model (https://civitai.com/models/694163/jav-aika) and a number of other models featuring people whom they represent.>I'm removing that content per our policy allowing real people (or their representatives) to request the removal of their likeness, and I appreciate your understanding! Thanks.
>>102694873to further explain this:CLIP and other models like CLIP train on text/image pairs to maximize their ability to convert both text and images into something called a conditioning which is expressed by a bunch of vectors.So at the end of training it wants to be able to take a text/image pair and convert both text and image into the same conditioning, proving it can convert one into the other. Training an embedding means providing a bunch of text/image pairs and saying for each, this image_1 should equal text_1 + x, and image_2 is text_2 + x, and so on. Solve for x. Then when it's done you should be able to plug this X into your prompts as a kind of pseudo-token that helps CLIP understand the intent of your prompt betterI know absolutely nothing so that's all just guessing, but that's how I've always understood them. Don't quote me on this!Sad that nobody's making them for FLUX because it feels like T5/CLIP being retarded is the big thing holding it back. There is a wealth of content in its understanding that can only be accessed by using img2img tricks
>>102694363thanks for the advice I just installed some of the custom nodes.>I would swtich the vae encode for impainting for "Set Latent Noise Mask"so I removed the VAE ENCODE (for Inpainting) node and added the Set Latent Noise mask instead what do I put in the samples input?
>>102694740should be there, got some error messages from civitai when trying to publish
>>102694854It couldn't be simpler than expecting you know everything about pip and python external environments? That's the simplest possible way to do it in your mind?
>>102687101cursed anon of hatred
>>102695145You don't need to know anything outside of how to install Python. Also at this point, I don't care. I'm glad you got filtered.
>>102694885Mega still is a fan favorite. You can post on k2s and rapidgator as well. The free options for that still work
>>102694873>>102694909>>102694963Thanks friends I will sleep easy now
>>102694973Add a “Vae encode” node and connect the pad image node to it and from the vae encode connect to the set latent noise maskTLDR: you need to encode the image to a latent
>>102695235guess I'll upload it to mega then.kinda sucks that civitai is so pozzed tho
>>102694973Also, don’t use karras for a scheduler when using Euler ancestral, normal or simple should do the work
Time to dig up Stable Cascade's grave and see what happens.
>>102694951Fuck that site, I really don’t like what civitai has become, they are just a money grab site, I wish there was like a private forum or private tracker of ai related resources like models and loras
>>102695325>I wish there was like a private forum or private tracker of ai related resources like models and lorasso why hasnt anyone made this yet?
>>102695325they are just in compliance hell like everyone else.
>>102695389Because:1) people are lazy2) it's going to lose you money3) it's going to be a headache to manage between the users being mentally ill and external forces trying to shut you downBefore you know it you're just Civitai.
>>102695389because I'd rather not go to prison. This isn't like facilitating the piracy of movies and tv; they're gonna come at you for facilitating the creation of CSAM. AI is a dangerous game right now: would-be monopolists, copyright giants, and bought or stupid legislators have made an unholy alliance to enclose this new field which is regarded by a lot of normies with fear and suspicion. Anyone fighting to keep this shit open and free risks total personal destruction a la Aaron Swartz
>>102695405That’s what private communities are for anon, to not give a shit about that, imagine if piracy private trackers gave a shit about that >>102695417I feel is just laziness and AI related stuff is crowded with normies who don’t know anything about internet communities
>>102695488You will have to give a shit because ultimately you're going to be a community that has *that* content. You're going to be known as the place that hosts things banned on Civitai, which means you're going to have a very specific audience, all of which will be courting legal trouble.
>>102695482> because I'd rather not go to prison. This isn't like facilitating the piracy of movies and tv; they're gonna come at you for facilitating the creation of CSAM.Are you a BFL/SAI employee?, why are you creating such scenarios in your head? There are no laws against anything you have said, the people who have been jailed for CSAM is because they were distributing such material, and it’s obvious that any illegal stuff should be prohibited, we are taking about some jav actress loras anon
>>102695514I can tell you’re a newfag and clearly don’t know how private forums/trackers work
>>102695579Go ahead and make your "we host everything banned on Civitai" community. I can tell you're underaged because you 1) grossly underestimate the work required for your project and 2) grossly underestimate the risks of your project. But like all things faggots like you do, what you really want is someone (who isn't you) to do it.
>>102695280>>102695307okay got it.thanks for the big help.gonna do some gens now.
>>102695558I look forward to the launch of your project.
>>102695558>we are taking about some jav actress loras anonYeah anon, that's worse because you're talking about lawyers looking for billable hours.
>>102695604Model etc
>>102695295It's not even pozzed, just them being pussies about getting dragged into court.They ain't no McAfee that's for sure.
>>102695599>>102695609>>102695642kek, you must be some civitai shill, this idea really got you upset > Yeah anon, that's worse because you're talking about lawyers looking for billable hoursOmfg ze lawyers how scary, you think a lawyer is like an omnipresent entity monitoring the internet? Kek, how dumb are you, clearly you live in a small bubble and think the world works like the place you live in
>>102695655illustrioushttps://files.catbox.moe/jmp3yb.pnghttps://www.mediafire.com/folder/f1uuqrzy5s83e/arako+ohttps://www.mediafire.com/folder/jr4fyynu0cls2/kusanagi_tonbo
why do I get sometimes outputs like this?is this just random or is there a way to prevent this?
>>102695704lmao you sound like a lazy 12 year old
>>102695722Thanks
>>102695417>>102695482man that sure sounds shitty.why do we have to live in the worst timeline where all the good things are "illegal" and pozzed?like whats even the harm that you can make pictures of some roastie?
>>102695558>and it’s obvious that any illegal stuff should be prohibited,and every base model can make illegal stuff. if they want to fuck you, they will fuck you.
>>102695325Wait until they start banning NSFW loras. It's gonna start with the CSAM angle, "protect the children" and all that. Every model or lora capable of lewd will have to go through a manual verification process, ensuring it's not even capable of generating any person that appears to be underage. Then it gradually gets even more strict from there.
and for the record, of course I think Aaron Swarz is beyond based, and someone SHOULD do what anons are saying. But they should be aware of the risks. And anons who won't do it themselves should at least understand why nobody else is rushing to do it themselves. And if someone does do it for you then you should appreciate it and not feel it's just something you were entitled to. Emad ripped off his investors and took threats from legislators for years to give us cool free shit, and all we ever did was insult him for not giving us even more that we felt entitled to. Then we called him an idiot for not delivering a return to his investors. So that's about how much we've ever appreciated anything that was done for us. Why is nobody rushing to build this private tracker for us?
>>102695929Yeah ok bro Emad is our unsung hero.. lol
>>102695929Hi lykon, so I fucking knew you were a SAI employee > Emad ripped off his investors and took threats from legislators for years to give us cool free shitEmad is a fucking idiot that created these scenarios in his head when there were no legal bases, there are no laws against anything AI related and certainly there were no laws against anything AI related when he was in charge, he pushed this censorship agenda with no base other than his own interest.That’s why MJ and Dalle succeeded and he and SAI failed
>>102695886The problem is that anyone, including those with toasters, can make a Lora and checkpoint given enough time.nsfw bans are off the table, much like porno will never go away.They will, however, use "think of the children" to get shit they want banned off the table. I'm calling it, they will use "there was actually cheese pizza in this celebrity Lora" to get it taken down.
>>102695235>>102694865ok I uploaded it to MegaAika LoRa for Flux:https://mega.nz/file/4YBkzRaB#Rvoihy43Q2vPYOhfQaqonrrTcZkd3W5UBkBPJmmMajcalso as a bonus, here is a LoRa I made of Eimi Fukada (pic related)https://mega.nz/file/dE5WHSTL#JbRhPHnOaF5edg5DnmtbIaICE67Rx3gqhMH4zTEpcDwI wont bother uploading it to Civitai (or anything else) because these niggers will probably delete it all anyway so fuck them.Also I have ~670 Buzz or so.if anyone got any ideas what to do with it or wants it let me know.
>>102695997>Emad is a fucking idiot that created these scenarios in his head when there were no legal bases, there are no laws against anything AI relatedYou are incredibly naive if you think they couldn't prosecute him if he failed to demonstrate compliance. I have no idea how you think laws and prosecutions work but I suspect that in your mind they resemble the rules of a video game.
>>102695725what is your CFG?
>>102695997>hi lykonDon't even know who that is, are all of you retards also schizophrenics who sense unseen personal enemies behind every anonymous post you dislike? Maybe I'm also Debo, and Emad, and Comfy, and the Devil?
>>102696132Anon, it’s obvious what are you saying, we are criticizing the way he handled such compliances, do you think he was the only one being pushed against the wall? Then answer me this, then why did MJ succeeded and SAI failed? How about dalle? Ideogram, etc.And please don’t give me the CSAM bullshit because I’m not talking about that, for example it is known that MJ trained its models with copyrighted material, did you see them bend the knee the way Emad did and drove SAI to the ground? No, they had the same scenario, one won big time and the other you know the story
Fucking cumbrains.
>>102696125Thanks anon.IDK about the buzz. I'd take it but then I'd be asking what to do with that shit too.>You can gen on the site with it!I do that on my own PC, civitai shut up
>>102696234Ok anon, I get the kind of person you are, I bet you don’t go out too much because you’re afraid you might get killed, good job good citizen
>>102696272Coomers make the world turn.
>>102696268>Then answer me this, then why did MJ succeeded and SAI failed? How about dalle? Ideogram, etc.Because every closed-source model had the option of performing some kind of prompt-inspection and post-gen CLIP inspection to check for bad content. And Dall-E's was authoritarian as fuckThose options are literally impossible with open-source. They did what they could to comply, and yeah, it sucked. But SDXL was still a great base that became the standard for a while. Show me anyone who made something on the scale of SDXL/FLUX/SD1.5/etc. with a truly unfiltered dataset.
>>102696275>I do that on my own PC, civitai shut upthis and I can also gen and train whatever I want on my own PC without any gay filters and customer agreements and other pozzed shit like that.
>>102696325Exactly. Buzz is just bullshit for the normies to lap up.Keep shining, JAV Lora king.
>>102696285Are you saying China and India keep the world turning? Cuck.
Can flux do inpainting?
>>102696344I'm demoralized tho.these LoRas were hard and honest work and they just deleted it and took it away from everyone.why even make some shit when some faggot can delete it anytime?all I wanted is a place where I can easily upload the LoRa, showcase it a bit too and make fellow coomer bros happy.
>>102696297I asked you about copyrighted material which is the big bastion of any lawsuit against ai generative companiesMJ can output marvel stuff like nothing that makes Hollywood vfx artists seetheDalle also can, the only censorship they did was the Pixar movie posters shit but nothing because of compliance but because of public opinion pressure.> Show me anyone who made something on the scale of SDXL/FLUX/SD1.5/etc. with a truly unfiltered dataset.A truly unfiltered dataset is just an utopic idea that neither SAI did, remember that your hero Emad wanted to prohibit the release of SD1.5So stop defending that clown, because at the end he did more damage than good, and has a very long record of doing bullshit things
why do sdxl models always give me fucked up faces in 512 and perfect faces in 1024?
>>102696444xl dont do 512, must use >1024
>>102690915>>102691273>>102691950Danke>>102691501Probably not needed
kinda new to this...i am mainly playing around with anime.What is up with prompts, is it better to use LAION tagging or danbooru tagging?
>>102696663My experience is booru tagging for NAI/Pony/etc models, LAION for more default SD models, and Joy Caption for Flux
>>102696663I always combine. Tags + natural sentence or two
>>102696725I see, do you have any examples?>>102696715I've been using danbooru tagging but sometimes it's kinda hard for the model to understand what exactly i am going for, it usually gets close to. Using SDXL btw
>>102695856Anon not being a degenerate anti-social faggot has always been against the law. Different crimes but same reasoning throughout history. Only now is being such a massive degenerate even tolerated, move back 60 years and just having porn magazines was extremely taboo let alone you trying to make fakes using your neighbors.
>>102696268It's always the same dumb bullshit with you. MJ ultimately has control over their model and everyone is inherently rate limited and incapable of making 99% of harmful prompts. This is obviously different from any local model which has no such restrictions.
>>102696789we truly live in a society
Is it a sign of a truly original artwork/design that auto-captions repeatedly fail to get close?
>>102696972Dr. Pavel, I have the highground
https://www.phoronix.com/news/ZLUDA-Third-Life>AMD comes in and makes sure everything is fucked up and behind schedule again >ZLUDA is being rebuilt to focus on multi-GPU vendor supportThis might be pretty good in the future if it means sharing a vram pool potentially while splitting processing up between the gpus. Nvidia cards prior to rtx4000 can share vram iirc - but only the non-consumer ones, it was deliberately disabled on consumer cards and the feature entirely removed in rtx4xxx series.
>>102696433Ok, fair point about copyright. Dall-E did, you'll remember, prohibit Taylor Swift/etc. I don't know what the pressures were. It's hard to judge. I don't really care what Emad allegedly "wanted to do", that's all theater. What actually happened is all we really know, and that's that 1.5 did get released.
>>102696972You benefit greatly from the society that you now want to tell to fuck off.
>>102697204Society is trying to shut me down because I make waifus
>>102697155You can shard models across GPUs, people don't do this because it's much, much slower than doing it all on the single cards dedicated VRAM. The issue is ultimately latency and the time it takes to move memory around is itself a massive bottleneck especially when you're talking about how much is required to do to achieve a single step of training.
>>102697229This woman wouldn't even be a squirt in your eye without a society to show you them. You don't get to pick and choose how you participate in society based on convenience without people calling you out.
>>102697247lets make a better society then
>>102697189My future gf...
>>102697264Show me your society face
>>102696409give her armpit hair
>>102697464I swear I’ve seen this in a dozen hotels before
>>102696433>A truly unfiltered dataset is just an utopic idea that neither SAI did, remember that your hero Emad wanted to prohibit the release of SD1.5>So stop defending that clown, because at the end he did more damage than good, and has a very long record of doing bullshit thingsthis, 100% this
I just got an RTX 3060 12gb and I'm interested in flux, do any anons know which quantization would be the best fit? Or a good comfyui workflow, I downloaded Q4 to test out with stable-diffusion-cpp but I doubt I'm getting the best experience per performance
>>102697899does Q4 use all your vram? if not you can increase the quant size a bit
>>102697966Will do, I just realized that there's 8bit T5XXL at https://huggingface.co/comfyanonymous/flux_text_encoders/tree/main After that I'm checking out the comfyui cpp extension
>>102697980go for Q8 T5 instead anonhttps://huggingface.co/city96/t5-v1_1-xxl-encoder-gguf
>>102697988Thanks anon, downloading it.
>>102695325>>102695389>>102695417https://aitracker.art/index.php ???
>>102695325>Fuck that site, I really don’t like what civitai has becomehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enshittification
https://github.com/DataCTE/ComfyUI-APGthat one's interesting it's its own KSampler but I got an error when trying on gguf models
>>102698356I watch Firefly around 3 times per year
>>102697189I'm so lonely
>>102698793Stop being lonely
>>102698379I can dig it
PuLID is fun kek
where is buttchin disgusting poster
>>102698882Timothy Dalton?
>>102699002what? you think she looks like him?
>>102698356>>102698830'bout time!>>102687627Cheers.
>>102698379For some reason I keep going back to the episode where he marries the character played by a young Christina Hendricks.No idea why.
>>102698081This is perfect but nobody will use it because it doesn’t have bright colors, rounded corners and pretty pictures for their rotted iPad baby brains
>>102699067it's a cycle anon>Try to find something else... -> Oh look, a site with a Good UI! -> It becomes popular! -> More mentally ill people will put pressure on the devs -> The site becomes more and more cucked -> Try to find something else...
>>102699064There arent enough photos of her during that time. She's so pretty it's almost disgusting
>>102698882dunno why but it can't stop giving her blue eyes even though her real colors are brown
That's something I noticed on the un-distilled flux version is that sometimes it's adding black bars as if to say "bruh, 1:1 ratio pictures are far from the norm why u do this" kek
>>1026987931girl is supposed to be painful if you do it right
>>102689070Based. God bless you and keep reminding fellow hobbyists such as myself to remain humble.No one should be defensive over machine learning and the opportunity to learn a more efficient way to do it.Arrogant newfags bringing in their normie attitudes. Remain humble.
>>102699307You should suck his dick.
i can't take this shit anymore
do a flip
I really like PuLid, the thing is how can we manage to do more than 1 person on the image? It tends to use the input picture and use it for everyone, I'm not a clone fan so yeah...
*turns into flesh pile*
>>102699422does poolid work with inpainting? if so then gen first and inpaint the faces
>>102699422Regional conditioning/prompting whatever they call it now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zn5BuNrvYvEAt some point in time, game engine will be useless, AI will render real life in real time, we really live in the best timeline not gonna lie
>>102699448>>102699442I think it would've been smarter to let's say name the input picture with a token, like "A woman", and then when you prompt "A woman and Hatsune Miku", the model knows that "A woman" means the input picture and Hatsune Miku is her own thing and doesn't need to be PuLID'ed, that's my 2 cents, dunno if that's even possible lol
>>102699455the day that releases it will not even dare to gen a spec of blood or god forbid... a tiddy
>>102699307>Arrogant newfags bringing in their normie attitudes. Remain humble.this
https://imgsli.com/MzAzMDY0Negative prompts really work on undistill flux-dev, but Idk, seems like the quality suffers a bit, is there a way to change the strength of the negative prompt or something?
>>102699518The blur can be random. It's not a good indicator that the negative prompt works.
>>102699540it was on a fixed seed, so adding this negative prompt removed the blur, fair to see it did its supposed job
>>102699216I learned the hard way that if you train on cropped pictures it will give you cropped pictures instead of learning the concept and generalizing.
https://blackforestlabs.ai/bruh, even on a male anime character Flux puts a butt chin
>>102699665>butt chin
I mean you can technically do negatives just fine on flux-dev nf4, just turn the cfg to 1.1 and the negatives work (as long as it's a value higher than 1 it works—if you set cfg scale lower than 1, the negative becomes like a positive prompt, idk why—and at 1 it does absolutely nothing)
>>102699690>if you set cfg scale lower than 1, the negative becomes like a positive prompt, idk why—and at 1 it does absolutely nothingthat's normal, CFG 1 means the cfg is deactivated, and without cfg you can't do negative prompting
Can we finally admit Flux is only good because it's Big and uses a higher channel VAE? No other redeeming qualities.
>>102699718we did a while ago, /ldg/ is now officially anti flux except for those two
>>102699718>Can we finally admit Flux is only good because it's BigPersonally I always said that, you need big shit to do big stuff>and uses a higher channel VAESD3M also uses a 16ch VAE yet it's complete shit at details, VAE isn't a miraclulous tool I'm afraid
>>102699724>/ldg/ is now officially anti fluxlol, the only images that are uploaded in this place are flux images, where are the Pixart/Hunyuan fans? Can't see them, can't see their pictures either
>>102699738>where are the Pixart/Hunyuan fans?sleeping obviously
>>102699742>sleeping more like they're in the coma because they're never here kek
>>102699729>complete shit at detailsBut you can still tell it's 16ch... because the details are sharper than 1.5 or xl. Unless out definition of "details" differ. Point being any new model using a one less than 16ch is worthless.
>>102699756no im right here, we've just run out of ideas to gen and are waiting for the next release
bigma WILL save us
run out of ideas now i'm running out of the will to live, chang where are you
>>102699777I'm still waiting for dev 1.1 personally
>>102699809what is that
>>102699864looks like he was trying to prompt a black version of Elaine from seinfeld
>>102699864supposed to be Elaine with dreadlocks
>>102699869>>102699874unpleasant
>>102699879I just wanted to add dreadlocks but it can't stop giving me black skin, Flux is RACIST!! kek
Impressive hands, didn't expect that quality
>>102699882maybe try doing a very rough sketch of her hair and do an inpaint
>>102699892nah that's easily fixable, just have to specify I want a white woman but it's always funny to see how biased a model can be, it has probably seen 99% people with dreadlocks that have black skin so it assumes it's always the case, even if you try to attach a PuLID white woman face on top of it
Fresh>>102699906>>102699906>>102699906Bread
>>102699785it will never happen and even if it does any development will be even slower than 1.0
>>102699983>if it does any development will be even slower than 1.0Idk man, they managed to make pro 1.1 way faster than pro 1.0 while keeping its quality, my theory is that they managed to make it work on a smaller model, if we had the dev version it means we won't have to deal with a giant 12b model anymore, would make everything easier for everyone involved
