>>102688929
Help Bros W10 or W11 ENT IoT LTSC I cannot decide.

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>>102688929
>>>/wsg/5691597

>>102689093
reminder that MS paid the extravagant amount of 35k dollars to Eno for that track

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I love Windows!

>>102689059
Older computer? 10
Newer computer? 11

https://youtu.be/pApfluGN4rI

I miss when they used to do cringekino launch events, I was laughing my ass because I didn't know they had Tom Delonge barely singing there. Bill always had this vibe of the nerd kid that tried so hard to look cool

>>102689059
Do you have an E-core/P-core CPU? If yes, Win 11
Else
Are you a normalfag or former macOS user?
If yes, win 11
Else
Do you browse the web without an adblocker?
If yes, win 11
Else
Just use Win10 LTSC 2021

>>102689200
when I was a preteen kid during XP era we had similar books. My father used to read them. At that time windows felt like a gigantic OS.

>>102689317
Older computer? 8.1
Newer computer? 10
fixed

>>102689662
I mean you can use 8.1 Embedded Industry Enterprise if you want, but you'll run into compatibility issues pretty quick.

>>102689870
>but you'll run into compatibility issues pretty quick.
Wrong.

>>102690248
Okay, explain why it's wrong.

>>102690271
It's wrong.

what is the difference between W10 Enterprise 1809 ltsc that i installed some time back following sticky from fwt threas of that time and these new w10 "IoT" versions?

what does IoT stand for?

anyway, should i install w10 IOT ltsc or w11 IOT ltsc considering im running 3rd gen i3

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After a bit of tinkering my W11 looks exactly the same as 10 minus stupid rounded corners
Is there a way around that?

>>102691115
Same shit
Keep the windows you have

what's the best android emulator to play my gacha games? preferably something that's lightweight and doesn't install 20 different apps and have ads in the menu

>>102691773
>preferably something that's lightweight and doesn't install 20 different apps and have ads in the menu
lol

I miss old windows ;-;

>>102689093
Why is the sound quality so good? Have I ascended?

>>102691773
If you wanna play gacha games on an emulator you need to use something like Nox or Bluestacks which are crammed with ads and telemetry. A lot of prep is needed to make them unspooky but after you've done the prep you can play your girlfriend jpeg games fairly easily.

>>102689870
He is wrong, but not as wrong as if (say) you were a 7igger. The Windows API surface hasn't changed a lot since Windows 8, and I still haven't written anything (on purpose) that requires 10 or later.

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>>102691115
It stands for Internet of Things. It's the new, hot marketing speak for "embedded edition", hence why it's targeted at vending machines, ATMs, medical equipment, etc.

>>102691348
There is mod on Windhawk to do that, or use ExplorerPatcher

>>102692103
MS mainly position IoT LTSC as a version of the operating system made to run specialized programs which is why it doesn't really come with anything, though it's a happy accident that it overall ends up as the best most performant version of modern Windows overall.

>>102692198
It's Enterprise edition that has had

Get-AppxPackage -All  | Remove-AppxPackage -AllUsers

run on it. Nothing more and nothing less.

What are some good W11 theme packs?

>>102692103
>>102692198
>>102692227
are there any features permanently disabled on this "internet of things" (what a stupid name btw) edition? can i make it as bloated and full of features and ads as the normal of the shelf win11 (if i for whatever reason ever need to do it)?

i dont want to install it now and learn in 6 months that something trivial is missing/cant be added

>>102692483
No you can re-enable/re-add stuff you may want/need that comes with a typical GAC edition.
If you need UWP apps for whatever reason you can just install winget through the winget-install script to be able to download MS Store apps through the command line, for example.

>>102692511
thanks, appreciate it

>>102692483
Yes you can, but you might as well install Education or Enterprise instead. If you want to be absolutely sure of support, going a GAC edition is also recommended, as MS belts out 3-6 GAC editions for every LTSC edition, so they get left behind. There's already a fairly long list of software (and more importantly, drivers) that won't install/run on LTSC 2021.
And, for fuck's sake, do NOT install any of those "letter" editions (like Enterprise N, Professional E etc.) - they DO remove stuff that's nearly impossible to put back, especially the N editions, which rip huge amounts of the video codecs etc. out of Windows, and the "Media Feature Pack" doesn't reinstall all of them.

does windows 11 have drag and drop on taskbar now or do i need third party app to bring that back again?

>>102692227
+ it has OneDrive ripped out, certain FoD packages like Classic Paint, Calculator and Snipping Tool integrated and doesn't get new packages provisioned from Windows Update like Outlook and Dev Hub

>>102691773
https://play.google.com/googleplaygames/exploregames
is it available here?

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>>102692854
>and doesn't get new packages provisioned from Windows Update

>>102692908
not a "new package"

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>>102692956
Copium overdose, stomach pump stat.

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>>102692987
>Copium overdose, stomach pump stat.

>>102693022
nice selfie

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>>102693026
>nice selfie

>>102693026
I like how when he gets his ass handed to him, his exception handler is just
>post(strcat(">", lastpost));
>attach("selfie.jpg");
We call them LTNPCs for a reason.

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>>102693104
patting yourself on the back award

>>102692662
>here's already a fairly long list of software (and more importantly, drivers) that won't install/run on LTSC 2021.
Kek keep coping 11igger

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A little helpful PSA to those who likes to debloat Windows before installing it:
DO NOT remove ClientCBS (aka Windows Feature Experience) package from the WIM file. Otherwise you'll end up with an unremoveable broken link to Windows Backup.
Instead, after Windows installation run

Get-WindowsPackage -Online -PackageName *UserExperience* | Remove-WindowsPackage -Online

in elevated PowerShell and restart. That way Windows Backup and Feature Pack and any other related crap will get completely excised from the OS.

>>102694328
it's just a frontend for "Sync your Settings", why not just leave it there?
and AFAIK by removing that you also lose access to Clipboard/Kaomoji/Emoji panel (textinputhost) etc

Does W11 ENT IoT LTSC support photoshop?

>>102692908
>>102693104
Yeah that's pretty much what made me go back to Education/Enterprise. What's the point of LTSC when every edition of w10 is basically LTSC now without feature updates and even then (((they))) can push bloat to LTSC anyway.
Who's to say they won't push copilot next when they need an increase in numbers?
LTSC is really busted.

>>102694453
yes

>>102691773
There is no way to do this afaik. Some games require an official emulator such as tencent's gameloop or otherwise you risk a ban (Call of Duty Mobile is like this, just an example).
Anyway just stay away from gacha. Life is too short to be a retard. If you like slot machines this much, travel to Las Vegas or Monaco and see the world.

how would i go about adding "Some Word - " to the beginning of every file in a folder?

>>102694427
It's also what hosts the forced Windows Backup app that even got into LTSC and cannot be removed without removing the whole ClientCBS package. Also it's not related to Clipboard and Emoji panel. Dunno why you need that anyway.

imagine not disabling all updates
why even use LTSC if you're going to updoot anyway

>>102695060
updooter retards trying to fit in
they're not true LTSChads

>>102694509
>Yeah that's pretty much what made me go back to Education/Enterprise. What's the point of LTSC when every edition of w10 is basically LTSC now without feature updates and even then (((they))) can push bloat to LTSC anyway.
They updated an already present component in your system, they didn't "add" anything

>Who's to say they won't push copilot next when they need an increase in numbers?
Do you really think ((They)) would give something to Enterprise customers (their actual cash cow) for free?

>>102694825
>It's also what hosts the forced Windows Backup app
why does it bother you anyway? like i said it is just a frontend for "Sync your Settings" functionality that is already embedded into your system. Unlike "Phone Link" for example.

>Also it's not related to Clipboard and Emoji panel.
https://www.tenforums.com/backup-restore/207123-how-remove-windows-backup-app-post2618876.html#post2618876

also see:
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/manufacture/desktop/features-on-demand-non-language-fod?view=windows-11#windows-feature-experience-pack
>"This Feature on Demand package includes features critical to Windows functionality. Do not remove this package."

>Dunno why you need that anyway.
Clipboard history is a nice to have

>>102695060
getting bug fixes & security updates on a target version, that is the point of using ltsc

>>102695203
this post glows

>>102695222
Sometimes I like to challenge the general sentiment

I have O&O ShutUp10++, is that all I need for basic privacy?

>>102695303
Yeah, just apply the recommended settings

>>102695203
>why does it bother you anyway?
I don't want things I didn't ask for. Why does something bothering me bothers you though?
>Clipboard history is a nice to have
4U
I have no need of it. If there's going to be a need for that, I'll install a third-party program for that, which it likely to be a better solution than whatever MS shoves down consumers' throats.

>>102695512
>I don't want things I didn't ask for.
That will never be a reality, especially on Windows

>Why does something bothering me bothers you though?
Doesn't bother me at all. I just find your determination to fight these changes interesting

>I have no need of it.
OK

>If there's going to be a need for that, I'll install a third-party program for that
Why willingly add more bloat to your system with replacement? Also mind the fact that they would have to run constantly in the background. 44.15 MB is literally nothing in the current year.

>which it likely to be a better solution than whatever MS shoves down consumers' throats.
None of them have distinct features compared to the built-in software; at least that I know of

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/operating-system-security/data-protection/personal-data-encryption/
Has anyone managed to get this working without Hello for Business?

>>102695958
is this a viable alternative for you?
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/fileio/file-encryption

Currently tinkering with Win11 IoT LTSC 24H2 in a VM, checking out what all's different from the previous version (Win10 IoT LTSC 21H2.)
Will there be a write up on the paste centered around this version of IoT? I'm seeing some new stuff added to the Group Policy in Win11 such as `Allow Diagnostic Data` and I'm sure others I've yet to come across, and I'm curious what can be done to help make installs of this version hardened.

>>102696117
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/privacy/manage-connections-from-windows-operating-system-components-to-microsoft-services
https://github.com/nsacyber/Windows-Secure-Host-Baseline
https://github.com/nsacyber/Hardware-and-Firmware-Security-Guidance
https://github.com/HotCakeX/Harden-Windows-Security
these may be helpful as a reference to your deployement

>>102696184 (Me)
forgot about this
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/operating-system-security/device-management/windows-security-configuration-framework/windows-security-baselines

>>102696117
the same as before. Shutup10 recommended settings. Or you can go by hand and configure each policy yourself, takes like 10 minutes.

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I have a problem with 2 icons that are not displayed correctly. Pic related.
Ethernet is deactivated, but 2 icons still use the activate icon.
I'm not sure if this is related, but I think this started after Windows cleaned temp files with its boardtool. So I think it somehow managed to delete the icons too.

>>102696198 (Me) again
https://public.cyber.mil/stigs/gpo/
https://dev-sec.io/baselines/
https://public.cyber.mil/stigs/
posting extensively as some anon could be interested in this

>>102696290
Forgot something.
When I deactive the ethernet adapter, for 1 second the "blue icon" (activated) becomes grey (deactivated) but then jumps back to blue (activated).
From what I see it's only the icon. When I deactive it, it says deactivated and I don't have a connection but the icon still remains blue (activated).

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Is a program like this really that complex that they can't update the UI to fit with the rest?

>>102696383
kek

>it's still windows 10 under there, anon.

>>102696494
>>it's still windows 10 under there, anon.
But it was a dated UI for W10 too.

>>102696511
so what?

>do you need it all to be shiny and glowie to look at cat pictures?

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>It's still Windows 7 under there

>>102696583
I mean It's technically still 2000 under there

windows nt*

>>102696576
>so what?
Having a mix of UI styles looks weird and lazy.
I'm not saying the new stuff is better.

So now that MS is going hard with ARM chips, do we know what are the fundamental changes of Windows for ARM? is it technically cleaner or it's still the same legacy jeetware mess just ported to ARM?

>>102696639
they never update this kind of stuff other than the icons sometimes, mostly because it breaks shit, remember that Windows is held together by duck tape

I have extensive experience in Linux , management and project management and looking to go into IT security. What Windows information/tasks/knowledge should I know to be better prepared for the swap?

I asked our windows admins and they just said as long as you know how to read event viewer your good lol

There's any way of getting windows to automatically switch to extend monitors when a second one gets turned on?
I only use one 90% of the time, but opening display settings every time I want to use both instead of just hitting the power button on the second is annoying

i have bought a laptop that came with win 11 home
i wanted to install win10 on it but heard stuff like touchpad doesn't work on win10 on that specific model so i thought about giving win 11 ltsc iot a try, if i do that can i still reset my laptop to its oem state? i know there are recovery partitions, but i am not sure if this process would temper with it or maybe replace it with different recovery files.

ok, once more i try w11. wish me luck guys so it goes well and doesn't fuck me in the ass.

thx for wishing me luck it seems to work now finally

I'm going back to windows. I have used Linux exclusively for the better part of 5-6 years (distro hopping for most of it) and there's alot of good, don't get me wrong. But man, something always doesn't work right, or crashes, or requires some form of troubleshooting. And if I had unlimited free time that would be fine, but I don't. I want my desktop to just work. Windows seems to do that, but if I'm running into similar issues like I am on Linux, I'll switch over to a mac.

So here are things I'm looking for and also wondering if are possible on windows:

1. Must be stable, I'm genuinely tired of troubleshooting my desktop
2. Private. Ok I know being that's it's windows you can't be very private, but I would like to do what I can to feed as little information to Microsoft as possible.
3. Must allow me to customize my workflow to some extent. This is something I'm going to miss alot from Linux as the major Linux desktops had workspaces which were really helpful to me. A big one was the gnome overview effect which would show you all your open windows neatly at the click of a button (which I set to one of my mouse programmable buttons). Also having the task bar at the top is much better in my opinion. I know windows 10 could do this, I'm not sure if windows 11 can.
4. I have no idea if this is possible, but is possible to have KDE dolphin as the default file manager? The default windows file explorer is genuinely horrible to use and dolphin has spolit me.
5. Good media viewer that can view images and videos in the same application, kinda like gwenview.
6. Kate is my favorite text editor, and I would love to have it on windows.
7. Not super important, but is there anyway to theme windows so that most applications have a similar look and feel. I liked KDE's options that allowed me to set the themes of gnome applications.
8. Connect to phone to desktop kinda like with KDE Connect. Really liked being able to send sms's from my desktop.

What's the least sketchy way to get rid of the activate windows logo?

>>102698522
Just activate using MAS anon. HWID activation is permanent for your current system+edition config.

>>102697712
it definitely will, it's all about if you like it

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>>102698095

is there a way to add xbox and windows store to the ltsc 24h2 iso BEFORE installing?

>>102698570
kek

>>102698095
Just use IoT LTSC 2024 or stay on Linux.

what the best image viewer? i've been using nomacs, is there a better one with more features? (free as in open source)

>>102698771
If you're already using nomacs you should just stay with it IMO

>>102698858
just wondering what else is out there that might be better

>>102698771
Jpegview

>>102698914
This. Try out sylic's JPEGView and see what you think.
It's the other most recommended viewer besides nomacs.

why does windows 11 keep chiming like something is disconnecting and reconnecting
i'm not getting any notifications

>>102699028
CIA backdoor malfunctioning

>>102688929
I just installed my first IoT image today. Win 10 IoT LTSC. I'm working on making a deployable image for my other PCs.

I'm used to just however it comes out of the box retail then manually making all kinds of tweaks to get it usable.

IoT just... I don't have to change anything.

>>102699071
Just run ShutUp10's recommended settings on it for a perfectly good system image.

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>>102699028
It's putting something to sleep, like a USB device, and then waking it back up maybe?

I actually wrote an AutoIT script to shut off power management for the USB ports because Win10 was doing this to me and it drove me nuts. It would put inactive external drives to sleep and then of course lag when it tried to access them.

To do manually, device manager->USB controllers->properties of USB hub->power management tab->uncheck the box

>do it for each.goddamn.one

>mfw i got enterprise 22h2 .iso and thought it was that ltsc iot in OP
>installed it and was riddled with store apps
Fuck
Gonna reinstall the actual good iot ltsc
Also when does the iot ltsc 22h2 come out already?

>>102698095
Use IoT LTSC 2024 with ShutUp10's recommended settings ran on it.
If you like shit like tiling window managers you can install something like Komerebi or GlazeWM.
Dolphin runs on Windows but it's buggy as fuck.
Install mpv. It can be both a video player and an image viewer.
Not exactly like Kate, but Notepad++ is what you probably want.
You can change accent colors in Windows but not much else besides setting it to dark or light mode.
KDE Connect has a Windows port.

>>102699260
There's either 2021 or 2024, which use 21H2 or 24H2 respectively.

>>102699274
>24H2
is this 11?
So, no new 10 ltsc iot anymore?

>>102699298
No, LTSC 2021 is the final 10 LTSC release that'll stay on 21H2 until 2032.

>>102699308
Alright thanks

>>102699260
kek

>i thought i was the only one that would do something like that

holy shit they actually addressed the negroes

>>102699449
wrong thread lmao

>>102697711
no. your laptop will brick /s

>>102698771
irfanview

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just discovered new shortcut

>>102699570
>/s
Fuck off to plebbit

Should the changes you apply in Shutup10++ be reflected in the policy editor? Most of the policies are set to "Not configured" despite applying most of the recommended settings in that program.

>>102699918
No it doesn't use group policy to set the registry entries it just adds them directly to the registry itself, probably with some behind the scenes .reg files being ran.

>>102699931
Thank you.

>LTSC used to work fine
>install IoT LTSC
>everything is broken
wtf is this, I can't even take screenshots with Win+Shift+S. I did google it and found some appx packages but that didn't work either

>>102700012
>Everything is broken
Well in my experience everything *isn't* broken so I dunno what your problem is.
If you want Snipping Tool like you seem to want just get winget installed with the winget-install script and get Snipping Tool re-installed.

>>102700029
I did get winget, I tried installing it and it says it's already installed, because it is, it just doesn't do anything

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>>102700012
>>102700049
Check in this folder.

>>102700049
winget isn't installed by default on LTSC

>>102699266
Very useful. Thanks man.

>>102694822
python script that does it for you

>>102692775
That feature was missing? When was this?
t. W11 user

Hey bros I just bought a new Xbox series S controller but my generic bluetooth 5.0 can't detect it on my Windows.
Weird because I've been using it with my old Xbox One controller for 5 years with no problem. The new controller can be paired with my old Android phone tho.

Googlefu says I need bluetooth 5.3 but maybe someone has a similar problem here?

>>102700322
Why is IE still in Win10 and Win11 anyway?

>>102700442
Backwards compatibility reasons

>>102698095
just install debian stable or something
if you don't want to fix things, just don't fuck with them

i like having a weather app
i wish the news and interests shit was just a wather widget and didnt use webview bloat

>>102700667
Why not just look at Accuweather in your browser if you want weather casts?

>>102694822
open notepad and paste in:

set "prefix=Some Word - "
for %%f in (*.*) do ren "%%f" "%prefix%%%f"

and save it with .bat extension then just copy the shell script to the folder and execute the file. Long term solution would be to use a GUI that automates the scripting though, like Bulk Rename Utility.

I CANT STOP MYSELF FROM UPDOOTING TO 11
FUCK

>>102694822
If you have Microsoft PowerToys, you can try the PowerRename functionality

>>102688929
Win10 LTSC or Win11 IoT LTSC?
and why

>>102700894
At this point it all comes down to how new your hardware is. If it's newer you might as well just use 2024. At this point now 2021 exists for people that want to stick with 10 for whatever reason or their PC just won't see any of the "benefits" running 11 would bring.

>>102688929
Windows 11 seems to have a delay when you right click to open the context menu, its like half a second

>>102700925
Very recommended to disable the 11 context menu with some registry entries and make the 10 one default again cause it's still there.

>>102700939
do you think they will keep that old context menu?

>>102700955
The 11 context menu has the "more options" button which literally just loads the 10 context menu. It's always gonna be there.

>>102689059
W11 enterprise iot (non-ltsc) region: europe. Saves you having to reinstall your os for a new feature you want

>>102700894
W10 if you want good performance
W11 if you want shit performances
it's that shrimple

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Best way to install windows applications? Chocolatey? Winget? Simply going to the application's web page like a Neanderthal?

>>102701093
anon posts old news. latest W11 release has all debugging/tracing turned off and performs the same as W10.

>>102701192
I have a Ninite installer that sets up basic shit like my web browser and the like which I then use to get installer files for other things not included on Ninite.

>>102691773
Like the other anons said, you need to pick your poison and accept that you'll be spied on and have a number of ads thrown at your face, there's no fully "clean" android emulator out there.
As for my personal opinion, I've had a good experience with MuMu 12: https://www.mumuplayer.com/
As in it runs well, doesn't seem to have many ads (only a few shilled apps in the home screen, and sometimes a big ad in the booting up loading screen), and doesn't install anything other than the emulator itself.
The biggest catch is that it's Chinese.
Yeah, what I said about picking a poison and all that.

>>102701535
There's guides out there to make something like Nox for example not spooky (revolves around blocking Nox telemetry/ad servers in hosts.txt, turning on root mode and changing the home screen/app explorer to something like KISS Launcher or Lawnchair (something FOSS and non-spooky.)
It's a little tedious but it makes Nox worth using.

>>102688929
it sucks

>>102700925
>Windows 11
lol
lmao even

what do you guys use as music player, foobar or wacup?

>>102701763
I've always used foobar2000 for local music and music played through Youtube otherwise.

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Is this true guys? Was thinking of making the switch but now I'm reconsidering.

>>102701839
why would I want to upgrade the programs that already work without problems?

>>102701839
street shit harder 11igger

>>102701839
>NOOOOOOOO MUH HECKIN ADOOBE CLOUDSHIT 65 NEEDS TO BE UPDOOTED TO CLOUDSHIT 66 FOR FEATURES I DON'T USE AND DONT EVEN KNOW EXIST
updooter retards need to be rounded up and gassed

>>102701875
>>102701891
"Friendly Windows Thread"

>>102701839
Operating systems go obsolete, anon. You have to decide if you want to stick to Win10 to be /comfy/ or if you want to switch to Win11 and learn to use that. W11 is W10 under the hood, so to speak, with a newer UI

>>102701839
In this case the guy should just use IoT LTSC 2024 if he wants to use Adobe programs and the like.

So I have a wired headphone with a 3.5mm TRRS connector, which is connected to a simple 3.5mm TRRS USB soundcard. It works great, but for as long as I've used this setup, I need to set the volume literally to "1" in Windows otherwise I blow out my eardrums.

Is there a way to lower the gain or something, so that I have the full control range again, allowing for much more granular volume control? Preferably only on that particular sound device obviously.

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>ASUS Zenbook 15 OLED UM3504DA-MA386W, equipped with an AMD Ryzen 7 7735U processor
wtf do I do?

>>102702300
Might need its chipset and/or storage drivers from the OEM model's support page.

>>102702300
I had the same problem with a 7840hs lenovo laptop. I ended up installing windows in a VM and copying partitions to the real drive (Linux unironically doesn't have this problem)

so can I just use the w11 without being considered a fag, skipping the option of enterprise version?

are there really any downsides? i am going to use it for everything - dev, games, 3d modelling, music etc.

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>>102702309
so I downloaded the drivers from Asus, put them on USB (exe files) and it doesn’t seem to want to launch them, driver list in the installation GUI is still empty.

fuck this. looks like I will have to try >>102702325 method

a bit of rant for those who are bored and want to read something:
>buy asus laptop mentioned earlier cuz its cool looking
>dont think much about the hardware, its fast, so probably will work
>start up pc, see it offering to setup win11
>no thanks, install fedora
>no wifi
>turns out I have mediatek wlan chipset that is incompatible with linux kernel and is closed source. mediatek is ignoring linux community
>no wifi, buy adapter, spend more money blablabla
>wtf
>think back going to windows, since mediatek supports it and has drivers on windows
>get driver issue on windows install
>tried different bootable win versions
>same shit
>mfw i paid for this shit and have to waste more time

>>102702444
You gotta extract the .sys files from the .exe files most likely which is what the Windows setup uses. Like with Intel's Rapid Storage driver pack .exe files which have a command line flag to extract the pure .sys files.
Just see if you can open the exe files like a zip archive firstly.

>>102702444
IDK, lenovo laptops have no problems with linux. anyway I'd better use linux with external wifi adapter than windows without it.

>>102702459
tried it. too much hassle to dig through multiple files that the initial exe driver installer extracts. thanks though, didn’t know this

>>102702582
yeah, I think I am keeping fedora for now. will now go fishing for proper usb wifi adapter. i wonder if there is a good one with bluetooth combined

When is the W11 IoT LTSC release that comes with Ryzen fixes? Later this October?

>>102701839
>it is a daily driver for most people? no
oh yea, because everyone uses the latest adobe creative suite applications, right?
i thought it's annoying solidworks now requires 10, requiring the latest unstable windows release instead is a joke

>>102701839
LTSC version is literally made for embedded systems like ad signs in stores, big corpos who's computers need stability and smart toasters etc such other things
if your program library is big and diverse you will most likely face issues because of the OS, but if you're casual non pro user you will be fine.

is enterprise the best GAC edition?

>>102703460
What do you mean? It's already on 24H2 and the September monthly update by default, with the October update fast approaching in the next couple of days.

>>102703802
>It's already on 24H2 and the September monthly update by default
Is it on KB5043080 or KB5043178?

>>102703820
26100.1742 is its default build number AKA the September monthly update for all 24H2 11 editions.

>>102703840
Oh so I have it. Thanks

>>102703799
Enterprise and Education (which is just an Enterprise variant), yeah.
Home and Pro are the ones you stay away from.

>>102703799
Yes but Education is basically the same and you can get it from the official Microsoft media creator, so there is no chance of having a fake or tampered ISO.

>>102700712

thnx senpai

win11 IoT LTSC or win10 IoT LTSC?

>>102706297
both

>>102706333
seems like they have the same hardware requirements, so it wouldn't matter if i installed win 11 on old hardware, right?

>>102706363
you should be fine

>>102702444
Why are you not using ethernet cable?
In worst case you could buy $10 usb adapter for wireless if you need to haul your laptop outside.

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>>102688929
>update windows to 24h2
>windows asked for bitlocker recovery
>wallahi i never wrote one

i should just disable bitlocker ffs i lost all the data on SSD

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>>102696639
aha, well, to answer your original question: yes it's complicated. The data that Device Manager presents is sort of like acorns that a squirrel has buried - all over the place in the Registry.

i'm sure they will updoot it eventually but not holding my breath for it.

>>102697711
no, but you can put a different hard drive in the laptop (if you can access it, kek) or use Rufus to make an Windows to Go install that runs off USB. I did the to go thing with an NVMe USB3 drive and aside from disk operations it was smooth sailing.

>>102701839
that's mostly a concern with updooters tho

However, it is true that you get a similar experience with Home/Pro and a debloater, the only difference is that you're more at risk of updates ruining it so... It depends on what you're willing to put up with

bros i did it, i installed iot edition ltsc win 11 got all drivers using win update, and installed remaining one from laptop manufacturer site, glad i did it, win 11 home sucked hard, idle ram usage is also very little, it runs great, battery is also running great like 8 hours,

Does anyone here have experience with windows servers? While I'm very comfortable windows & win32 programming in a desktop context, I've always just used bsd/linux for servers. Is there anything windows server offers me in particular over *nix?

W10 is so ugly, I am having a hard time not updating :(

>>102707820
should have stayed on 7 for aesthetics

>>102707820
there's no shame in updating for the looks, Macfags religiously follow Apple aestethics and troonix users spend months tweaking their desktop environments

>>102707872
Can't say I was ever a fan..

>>102707920
I do use macOS and I would say the biggest advantage of their UI/UX is that they are consistent, unlike Windows which is a mess with various different era design popping up from time to time.

Windows 10 with it's flat look just looks dated, funny how that works considering flat used to mean modern.

>>102688929
Include WoeUSB in install guide if flashing from linux.

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From an official MS book

>>102701891
>>NOOOOOOOO MUH HECKIN ADOOBE CLOUDSHIT 65 NEEDS TO BE UPDOOTED TO CLOUDSHIT 66 FOR FEATURES I DON'T USE AND DONT EVEN KNOW EXIST
>updooter retards need to be rounded up and gassed
this but unironically

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I just installed Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC on my main computer. Is the default installation good enough for normal, standard use?

>>102709465
if you have to ask
no

>>102709465
Yes. It's literally just Windows minus the bloat.
If something worked on non-LTSC for you, it'll work there as well.
If it doesn't, you fucked up elsewhere.

Are there any good pdf readers/editors for windows or should I just pirate acrobat pro?

>>102707820
11 is even uglier though

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Best way to friend/GF proof my PC?
My computer has the following...
>SSD for OS
>2 internal HDDs for various data
>a USB SSD for periodically backing up mission critical stuff
>a thumb drive that I copy music to for use in my car
I am going to create a second login that I will use when people come over but I want to restrict it from accessing one HDD and the USB SSD. I also want it to map its documents folders to folders on the unrestricted HDD.
What do?

>>102709987
dont be a normalfag

>>102709987
>people who come over want to use my pc unsupervised
What the actual fuck am I reading

>>102710015
who said its unsupervised? im mainly doing it so i dont have a browser running with all my shit logged in and i dont accidentally open anything on my porn stash or mission critical stuff (the HDD and USB SSD i was talking about).
also dont want to worry about any racist or edgy discord notifications or anything i just need a clean slate with access to the music on a USB and one of the two hard drives with all the movies.

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>>102707820
>>102709968
"Friendly Windows Thread"

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>>102710103
>mainly doing it so i dont have a browser running with all my shit

we know what you mean, anon

>>102710103
>who said its unsupervised?
>I want to restrict it from accessing one HDD and the USB SSD
If you're supervising, a verbal "what are you looking for?" when they start browsing folders is going to stop any and all snooping.
>mainly doing it so i dont have a browser running with all my shit logged in
Just install a second browser.

>>102709513
>>102709560
I've heard people talk about minimizing LTSC by uninstalling Edge and disabling additional telemetry options.

>>102706723
This was allah's will... Next time he will strike you down with lightning!

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I am on Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC, build 26100.1882

0x80070643
Getting this windows update error, anyone else? I googled and tried resizing the recovery partition and all, but didn't work.

>>102710312
Motherfucker I cant believe Dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth and then sfc /scannow actually fixed my issue

>>102710483
nice work, anon

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>>102706723
>i never wrote one
why are lying niggers always like this

>>102709465
Run ShutUp10's recommended settings on it and you'll be fine

>>102710575
what is the difference between save to a file and save to a usb flash drive?
it saves the file anyway, right?

>>102710601
"Shut up and run ShutUp10."

>>102710652
for people who want to back it up to multiple devices easily by just drag and dropping the key everywhere, or self emailing it if they dont want to backup to an ms account

>>102710190
too late nigler i already made a second account
>windows 10 blocks all drives by default
>for usb drive just add new user in permissions and set their account to deny.

>>102689363
You forgot "Are you a mouth breather? If yes, W11"

>>102700959
>worked on a client's new macbook this week
>rarely if ever use macOS
>notice their context menus can be fucking massive, filled with many options
Why do the masters of "form over function" get to have that when Microsoft's stupid fucking pajeets think a stripped down menu with a "More Options" button is acceptable? Damn right the Win10 menu better remain there if they're gonna be that dumb

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>>102710966
thats a good point to make, as I have Windows/Linux/Mac going at my house. maybe it's a "feature" for shitty low-res laptops. it is more aesthetic, i will give it that. some of what i see in there are things i was using with right-click in W10 like sending a file to a media player

>now that you've called it to my attention it will be like an unfindable grain of sand in my bunghole, forever irritating me

this guy is running windows 11 24h2 on a 12 year old laptop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Mp3k_xgMzU
has anyone tried running it on something like this

>>102710601
Is it safe?

>>102711182
All it does is set registry entries and disable services, it's fine.

>>102709513
>>102709560
Also, what's the “Subscription LTSC” image in the setup?

>>102711179
madness

>have 11 year old HP 2760p crapcan with a battery error but runs W10 fine

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-HP-EliteBook-2760p-LG682EA-Convertible.92622.0.html

>tried W11 on a USB for it but there were soooooo many missing (deprecated) drivers
>not even the Centrino wifi was working
>didn't want to spend all that time on curiosity
>tried W10 LTSC and it loaded lots more drivers and updated itself
>runs as good as expected on this antique
>Wacom touchscreen with pen input, HSPDA data modem in it
>cannot find the stupid pen that goes in the slot but generic fat one works, touch works.
>managed to get all drivers except the stupid (and useless) HSPDA modem
>only spent a couple of hours with it and don't care all that much
>admittedly I hoard old drivers and keep notes of my installs

I abandoned the moment I found that out they built (part of) the Win11 start menu in fucking React Native.

>>102711363
no one that matters in the marketplace cares

>they will roll in cash regardless
>much used hardware coming to the market soon, anons.

>>102711344
do you think microsoft will patch all the workarounds to install 11 on unsupoorted hardware?

>>102711344
Did you try Snappy Driver Installer Origin?

>>102711847
lol no I got all the basics working and I prepped it to give to my kid.

some people are saying that some game cracks dont work on 24h2
has anyone found a problem with cracked games?

>>102712017
I see, glad to see you got it working. For me, I run windows updates until there's no more updates, then run SDIO to install all the drivers needed. Sometimes windows updates will install older drivers, so SDIO will overwrite it or install anything missing.

>>102711503
surely they will try, i bet there is a whole department looking at just that.

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anyone using qbt 5.0?

it keeps flagging my downloads as "this file came form the internet, blah blah" and have to unblock every file so I don't get a nag everytime I open something that I've downloaded. Yes, i am aware of using powershell to unblock files recursively, but this doesn't happen in qbt 4.6.7 or deluge, for that matter.

even disabling attachment manager to not save zone information doesn't help. It works for browsers but for downloaded torrents (with qbt 5.0) it does nothing

>>102712205
Still using 4.5.4 because I'm not an updooter. There is no reason to update some torrent client unless it is utterly broken or somehow compromised.

>>102712451
You're absolutely right, it's just that I reinstalled windows and normally use winget to install everything back and well, here we are.

Didn't see an issue on qbts github so I guess no one noticed, or cares. Oh well.

>>102712205
i think a recent windows update introduced that
i got it when trying to open mpv recently, i dont think i ever got it before that
havent downloaded too much from torrent recently, only a movie and dont remember seeing the popup

>>102712522
It's weird because disabling "save zone information" works for browser downloads but qbittorrent 5.0 seems to completely ignore the setting

honestly windows breaks my balls everytime, but it's not like (desktop) linux is any better.

>>102712062
How do you even use SDIO, are you supposed to let it download everything? I tried it the other day with only the indexes and it didn't find any driver to install on this shitass old dell laptop, which can't be true because I know it has BT but I've never gotten it to work since I installed 10

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Anyone using Directory Opus know why I can't use mouse wheel scroll when I'm hovering(focus too) on pictures? Left and right click scrolling works, even mouse wheel scroll timeline on videos works perfectly fine too so it is definitely detecting window.

>>102712501
I haven't used qbt5.0 so I can't say anything else.
Except turn your windows defender settings to minimum.

>>102712579
Yeah, I download only the indexes. I bought a cheap ThinkPad t470 off ebay and SDIO found around 120 drivers to install even after windows updates on a fresh iot ltsc install.
As for your issues, I don't know much about that, though have you tried closing and relaunching it? There were a couple times on first launch where the "download indexes only" dialogue box didn't come up and I had to reopen it for it to pop up.

>>102712577
im almost 100% sure a recent windows update introduce that popup showing every time you try to run an exe from the internet, i didnt even remember getting that shit since like windos 7

>>102712660
is it better to use the drivers from manufacturer website or SDIO
i have a laptop and the manufacturer never updated the drives since 2016

>>102712679
From the manufacturer's site is probably the best since it comes from a known source. With SDIO who knows where and what you're downloading from. On the other hand, SDIO scans your hardware ID and grabs the appropriate driver for it. So if you're using ancient hardware where getting the drivers for it is difficult, SDIO may have it.
Though, I just blindly trust SDIO to grab whatever it needs. On a laptop, googling your laptop model you'll probably find the drivers needed, but if you're on a PC where your parts come from a couple different companies, it's a pain in the ass to go to each company's site and search for your specific part to download the drivers for.
Ultimately, if you're worried about where your drivers come from, then going with the manufacturer's site is the best way to go. For me personally I don't really care about that, and I think it's nice that SDIO scans all my hardware to find the drivers for everything.

>>102712205
delugechads dont have this problem

>>102696117
>>102696184
>>102696198
>>102696302
absolutely goated anon. thank you for this

>>102703799
Education is Enterprise but without ads (not to be confused with "Pro Education", which is worse and based on Pro instead of Enterprise)

>>102712750
i trust SDIO i used it in the past
the reason i ask is because windows 10 has changed a lot since release, so maybe using drivers that old might not be a good idea

How or where do you get Photoshop? Is there something like MAS for it?

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>>102713064
https://www.reddit.com/r/GenP/wiki/patchmethods/
I personally use the Monkrus installer then completely block Photoshop.exe in the firewall before launching

>>102713064
Still using CS6 by thethingy on pirate bay. Copy and paste a dll.

>>102713064
1337x

is this better than shutup10++? what about private-secure-windows?
https://github.com/HotCakeX/Harden-Windows-Security

>open github
>see README
>Note: Windows by default is secure and safe
>close tab

>>102713414
Basically does the same things, but in script form

>>102710252
You can do that with winutil from github. You run a single powershell command that prepares a whole UI when it's done loading, tweaking edge is among the options.
https://github.com/ChrisTitusTech/winutil
It's not necessary to debloat edge that radically, you can just go to the other tab and press standard set of tweaks, this should reduce processes from ~110 to <70

https://archive.org/details/microsoft-extensions
Anyone know how to use this?
I run the script and get a bunch of errors, is there some other method of installing this stuff without the ms store?

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>>102688929
Explain the third one

>>102714894
Avoid.

>>102714882
https://web.archive.org/web/20221116044318/https://www.codecguide.com/media_foundation_codecs.htm

>>102714894
A new version of LTSC for businesses that want to pay monthly in perpetuity for the license instead of one large single payment. I'd say plenty of businesses will probably find it quite attractive, and in our case don't bother with it.

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>>102714914
It says to install by double clicking, but that gives me another error, I am running on ltsc 2021

>>102714882
>>102715320
install winget

>>102688929
I have Win 10 22H2 and none of the DAWs I tried (Ableton, FL Studio) launch but without any error messages. Not sure what I should look for in the event logs, but does maybe anyone know what prerequisite packages I'm missing? My audio interface driver installed without problems and is working.

I'm worried I would run into the same problem with IoT if not worse, as it is even more barebones. I will definitely have to either reinstall or uninstall the current Windows as it is an evaluation version that's beyond the evaluation period.

>>102715358
Have you installed a .NET desktop runtime or ran a VCRedist AIO? Might be missing some system components like that.
https://github.com/abbodi1406/vcredist
https://dotnet.microsoft.com/en-us/download/dotnet/8.0

>>102715378
I already tried some desktop runtime versions that were suggested elsewhere, but I can also check what you linked.

>>102715329
I installed winget using the chris titus script, but the error remains only the icon changed.

But I managed to install the extensions using "Add-AppxPackage -Path" command in powershell.

>>102715409
I'm just recommending these because whenever I've had an issue where something just doesn't load at all it's because of either of these things.

>>102691348
I like the default rounded corner in w11.

>>102715487
worked for FL Studio

>>102688929
is there any way to activate LTSC beyond the eval period? I can't restart the eval period anymore

>>102715622
Don't install LTSC from an ISO from the MS website and instead get an LTSC ISO from the massgrave repo which are full releases.

>>102691840
It's a remaster.

>>102701192
winget, scoop if not in winget

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>>102702444
go in bios and change options around like drives and whatever, I had this same issue when I had a lenovo laptop and going on bios and changing an option fixed it

>>102701209
Wait what, they used to ship it with debugging and tracing shit enabled? In Release builds? When? How long?

veracrypt or bitlocker, threat model is nigger stole my laptop

>>102717912
I'd use Veracrypt instead cause it's easier to deal with. Also lets you just use a password/passphrase by default too.

>>102717945
i'm using an old laptop, does veracrypt have any significant impact on disk encryption performance compared to bitlocker?

>>102717966
They both use AES-256 encryption by default so if the laptop is on the older side it'll probably take a little longer to boot as it decrypts after you enter the password.

So... I've got a PC I built quite some time ago, I'm thinking 12 or possibly 15 years. It runs an "OEM" version of windows 10. I have done various upgrades of components here and there and it's for the most part still a rather powerful PC. However it's gotten to the point where the CPU is not cutting it any more, and it's the most powerful CPU that is compatible with the MB's socket. So I need to upgrade the MB, however I don't want to have to reinstall windows if I don't need to. My question is, is replacing the MB a problem when running an "OEM" version of windows? I get varied information when looking around the internet for answers. Some say it's fine, some say I'll have to reinstall windows, some say it will work but I will need to to reactivate it through microsoft. Anyone have any experience with this? I feel like if I try contacting microsoft to ask them this I'll just get some pajeet reading bullshit from a tech support choose your own adventure book and get nowhere.

>>102718457
If you change the mobo then most likely the Windows install you have will deactivate because OEM installs are HWID activated.
Easily fixed though because you can just use MAS to re-activate the install again with HWID.

Got a little workstation for cheap but it has W11.
There's any reason to keep it over W10?

>>102719146
if it werks then no, if you want to remove pajeet software use shutup10

>>102696383
I don't want them to update the UI, why would I want something that is compact and gives me lots of useful information to become huge, bloated and with half the info?

>>102719678
They updated half of the OS UI, either do it all or do none. I never said either one is better.

Has microsoft always been terrible about naming programs? Like why is there a onenote and onenote for windows 10? Or teams and teams(business)
Are they retarded?p

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>>102711503
You mean the workarounds that MICROSOFT THEMSELVES put in there? Or are you one of those low-IQs who really think that some loser from MDL whose ability to "program" only goes as far as 10 line PS scripts not only managed to modify the Windows Setup program, but convince MS to include those modifications on EVERY ISO they've published in the last 3 years?

If you are - welcome to /fwt/, you're gonna fit right in.

>>102720308
meds

>>102719146
>There's any reason to keep it over W10?
No.

>>102719740
9x UI is objectively superior.

>>102720528
>no dark mode

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>>102720653
Wrong.

>>102720377
>>102720377
>>102720377

>>102718457
>some say I'll have to reinstall windows
w10 doesnt have this problem

>>102691773
waydroid over WSLg
it's not an emulator, it's just android in a container

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>>102720653
wat?

>>102718457
I have done this very thing. >>102718490 is right if you get lucky with having the old drive on a new controller. >>102720746 is wrong - you can get into no-boot and crash easily doing this.

>Better to try and clone the drive to a different one to test the new setup so you don't blow up your data.

>>102720415
>There's any reason to keep it over W10?
>>102720415
yes

>>102723083
wrong

>>102723297
no

>>102724499
ehhhh, how about maybe?

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>>102724482

>>102718457 can either listen to the oldfag with more than three decades of experience supporting Windows or the one-word shitposter, it's their call.