michael jackson's ENDGAME editionrequest purchase advice>location (country you're shipping from and shipping to)>budget>open/closed back>sound signature (what kind of music do you like best)>previous equipment
Got myself a pair of DT 770 Pro X LE, highly recommend them. Coming from a "gayming" headset, the difference is day and night; especially for music prod.
>inb4he didnt do it kys
It's been a while since I've lucked hpg, there used to be some recommendations in the OP.Are those gone? Just curious to see what the current meta is.
>>102804117Fiio FT1 is the current FOTM headphone
>>102803778>a little milk>some cook eeeeees>now when you say bed
so whats the difference between open back and closed ones? I'm about to buy beyerdynamic DT 770 PRO 80 Ohm but I've seen that KSI dude while seething over how shit his song was wear some with open back beyerd ones.
>>102804215Those do look like they measure well. Any reason to move on from my HD600 and DT770?
>realize I have SIX pairs of over ear headphones and like three or four IEMsDamn...Anyways are STAX worth it? Would probably be grabbing LR-300s and whatever the cheapest driver is to try to keep it under a grand.
>>102804232Open back headphones have superior imaging and soundstage. In layman's English - they sound more "open"You get sound coming from "further away" and you feel a greater sort of spaceYou also tend to get a more neutral and balanced profile with a better focus on treble and mids, which is good for white people musicThey have two major downsides - they leak sound and let sound in, so they're not suitable for wearing in noisy environments/out in public and they USUALLY have relatively poor bass projection due to lack of resonanceYou don't really FEEL the bass like you do with a closed backClosed backs offer superior sound isolation and don't force everyone to listen to your music, so they're way better if you plan to wear your headphones outside of the houseThey're also superior if you're a basketball american bass enthusiast - even the best open back in the world won't compete with closed back for thumping bass response>KSIhis song would still sound like dogshit on $2000 headphones
>>102804730Good open back planar headphones can produce as much bass as you want. DD outside specialty earspeakers needs help from the solid back wall to produce a reasonable amount of bass without mass distortion.
>>102804667how about you stop buying new headphones since you alreayd own a functional pair
>>102805444telling a consooomer not to consoooooom is like telling them not to breathe. impossible.
>>102805464its a shame people cant just, you know, own a house and build a sound treated room where they can listen to music or watch anime with a 2.1 system
>>102805557>2.1You sound like one of those boomers who complain the levels in new movies are never right.
>>102806018Films should come with sound mixed for stereo as well as whatever 5.1/7.1 surround setups.
>>102803697open-ear vs bone conducting. Which is better and why?
>>102805557You don't need to do any of that, simply EQ to this target to btfo any speaker and room in existence.
>>102806612Phone speaker without EQ btfos any headphone with any EQ.
Rec me wireless headphones that are in the same quality/price range as K240 Studio
>>102807411wireless are usually sold for higher prices and marginsyour best chance would be looking out for a sale
>>102806231Just buy a center channel granpa. It's not expensive.
>>102807657>fix software/incompetence issue with new hardwareenjoy your soundbar sound quality I guess
>>102806537Totally different use cases. Bone conduction sounds like shit but works in adverse environments.
>>102807516Well is there any wireless headphone tier list for me to reference at least?
>>102807681>track recorded and mastered as triphonic>why won't they supply me an objectively incorrect downmixJust buy a 3rd speaker like the two you already have and put it in the middle. The only reason not to do this is if you're clinging to some audiophile mental illness stereo amp.
can anyone help me? this 40 dollar razer headset from 2014 i got from best buy were the most enjoyable sounding headphones i ever had, and i cant replicate it. can anyone say why? i think they were nice and bassy razer carcharias
>>102806642all speakers are btfo by ksc75
>>102807657Y would u buy a center channel if you're not watching in a large room
>>102807703Wireless headphones are a sliding scale of shittitude in various directions. The closest you can probably get is just a wireless DAC for the K240 that supports all the codecs and choose your range / latency / quality to fit the situation.
>>102807824Going from 3 -> 2 channel makes the volume all fuckywucky, which is why people have different pet conversion matricies. If you play with soundbars you notice all the good ones have drivers in multiples of 3 for the same reason.
>>102807884Are these okay?https://allegro.pl/oferta/sluchawki-bezprzewodowe-nauszne-jbl-tune-720bt-do-76h-bt-5-3-101-db-mocne-14663052053To be honest I don't know shit about headphones, My K240Studios broke and I want some non expensive replacement. Wanted to try wireless cause I never had any.
>>102808033Codec support is an issue with JBL. If your source can provide LC3 they're probably alright. Most older phones can't. For general purpose wireless headsets I want to see AAC and AptX Low Latency support. Where AAC provides very good quality at long range or in adverse environments for almost every device, and AptX LL has the best latency by about 2.5 frames vs newer 'adaptive' coding schemes like LC3 or AptX Adaptive.
Can I somehow repair these if the wiring inside the cup with cable attached got fucked and I need to wiggle it to receive sound?
>>102808473if you can find similar wire it can be soldered ofcwhether thats worth it with buying the kit and materials and work involved with no guarantee of it working depends on you
>>102807703Check out rtings.com they have a list of best wireless headphones in a variety of budgets.I have the Sennheiser HD 4.40 and like them a lot. I think they've been discontinued now though.
Buy Stax.
>>102808444Actually I noticed these don't have ANC so I'm now considering HAYLOU S35I searched /g/ archive to check for opinions but there's only 2 posts about them.
>>102808523ANC on cheap headsets is usually pretty shit.
>>102807411https://aliexpress.com/item/1005006038910640.htm
buy adx5000
>>102808942But I don't hate music.
>>102808955you genuinely never hear thme
>>102808979For my own good.
this is GENUINELY the best thing ever happened to me. everything sounds so correct and lively it's unbelievable better than fecalbetter arywhosbetter than your shitty failedtax better than that indian company and what else? mudheiser and mudynamics?
>>102809001failedtax
>>102808516yes, i do despise music, how did you know?
>>102809002Now imagine that with EQ its gonna be even better
>>102809002Opus more like a pos.
>>102809001Good. They don't have to be listen'd by some mutt.>>102809056they're already perfect. believe me you don't need them fucking eq'd. they're gods. demo them and get your brains blasted away literally.>>102809057you're not so funny
fucking godly and holy treble
>>102807806Sounds much better when you don't put it on your ears.
>>102809275of course it sounds better than speakers
>>102809334>speakers sound better than speakers What did he mean by this.
>>102808516Edifier Stax?
>>102809441Lays
The only cans worth buying.
Beyerdynamic MMX 300 or Audeze Maxwell?
>want to buy a pair of pretty good headphones>looking for clear and neutral sound>hpg recommends a couple>shure srh840 on sale>pick them up>2 years later: pretty goodi just upgraded from shit logitech desktop speakers (x-140) to kanto yu2 and everyone says you need a sub with them but the little bass they have makes me want moregot any suggestions for a canadian looking for some bassy, comfortable headphones?
>>102809974the latter
Ive got a budget of about 100 bucks, (could go slightly higher) and I wanna finally get myself a "nice" pair of headphones. I dont want anything super bassy, just clear, crisp, accurate sound.Ive been looking at the Sony MDR7506, Audio Technica ATH-M40x, or the Sennheiser HD 280. Should I go with one of these or is there something better? Ive seen a lot of people recommend the AKG 361, but FUCK they're ugly.
>>102810207check out takstar gm200or raise budget to get fiio ft1
>>102807681Stereo speakers are inherently flawed because you get cancellation between the channels. You need a real center channel. Headphones don't have this problem.
>>102807824Generate some mono pink noise in Audacity or whatever. Play it on stereo speakers and move your head. Notice the weird flanger effect. Now hard-pan it to play in only one speaker and try again. Notice the flanging is greatly reduce. Exact level of flanging depends on room treatment and distance from the speakers, but all else being equal mono will always win.
>>102810207HE400se with EQ. It's heavy, uncomfortable, cheap plastic feel, but once you've heard planar sound quality you'll never go back. Dynamic drivers just can't compete.
>>102811200If he has $100 budget he doesnt have the dac and amp to support those "cheap" headphones. They will sound like shit connected direct to his source
You fucking faggots in this thread lied to me6 months ago I asked for headset recommendations for a wireless gaming headset. One of you tardnigger incels told me to buy an Audeze Maxwell so I did. Holy fuck I was retarded for listening to you autists.6 months of dealing with constant software bugs and audio problems, this headset finally fucking broke. The right ear makes NO SOUND anymore. I've tried everything from reinstalling drivers to factory resetting. Nothing works. This piece of shit is literally dead. I even looked online and apparently its a known issue that the speakers just STOP WORKING???So on top of dealing with dogshit software, turns out the heavy aluminum construction headset is actually DOGSHIT HARDWARE TOO.I even ordered it through Amazon, so now Audeze is refusing to refund me. There's $300 down the drain.FUCK YOUFUCK YOUFUCK YOUFUCK YOUFUCK YOUFUCK YOU FUCK YOUFUCK YOUFUCK YOU FUCK YOUFUCK YOUFUCK YOU
>>102811200What EQ do you use with the HE400se? I use the Innerfidelity EQ with the Crossfeed Meier filter enabled in PeaceEQBut yeah they sound great but boy are they uncomfortable, they feel like a neck workout after a while
>>102811488But you can't deny that during these 6 months you had one of the best audio experiences in your entire life.
>>102811562Oratory's measurements to Harman OE 2018 + some extra bass.
>>102811599remove the 7db gain on one of the bands for that preset because that shit hurt
>>102811488>product doesn't work with op's devices>won't send it back>product dies in warranty>still won't send it backmaybe we should revisit who the social retard is here
>>102803774>got myself a pair of treble cannonssorry for your hearing loss
>>102811599this one?
>>102804164buy an ad
>>102811488>I even ordered it through Amazon, so now Audeze is refusing to refund me....what?are you an americunt? if yes, don't you have 1 year of warranty through amazon?the reason audeze is refusing to refund you is because the seller's warranty takes priority, you should contact amazon first.
>>102811746yup, retards that pretend warranties don't exist and just buy new shit when old one breaks within warranty period, many such cases
>>102811778I'm using AutoEQ to generate the parameters but looks like it's the same thing.
>>102811829Bro Audeze is Sony. If they're refusing to refund him it's because he bought from KrazyAziz fulfilled by Amazon, not actual Amazon.
JBL 770Tune or Live?
>>102809002I preferred the HD800s over it, but I'd be lying if I didn't enjoy swapping between both through a demo. They're incredibly airy. It's rather remarkable.
>>102809002What headphones are those and how many moneys do they cost?
Is there a reason why companies are still making new headphones when the HD600 and DT770 still exist? We in the hobby all decided that audio is a solved problem. You don't need anything more than the Hurr Durr Six Hungos by Ol' Mate Sen, am I right my fellow audiophiles? We're not like those lowly consumers that listen to Beats by Doctor Dre. Come on, does anyone in the hobby actually consume stuff? Nope. Now excuse me as I order another $1,000 in gear that'll really bring out the details in my HD600.
>>102812266>Is there a reason why companies are still making new headphones when the HD600 and DT770 still exist?Bass.
>>102812266see >>102810016
>>102812230looks like Audio-Technica ATH-ADX5000it's audio technica so its automatically bad and is a distortion filled piece of shit that can't do bass worth $2000, op was coping with his purchase
>>102810302NTA but>bassier Pro 82What's the point in this to that anon who wants something neutral and when the Pro 82 has a bass switch anyway?
>>102812448theyre cheap and comfy
>>102812448The Pro 82 with the bass switch closed sounds spectacularly good, but you open the bass ports and the entire sound quality start degrading, to the point where having the three ports open muddies the entire sound. Meanwhile GM200 has properly punchy bass and excellent definition without that issue because the chamber is larger than the one in the Pro 82 and the bass port is a new patented design by Takstar.Regardless, the most important thing is to buy from the official Takstar audio store, because a few other sellers have the habit of selling models that failed quality control.
Okay, so I've been using a pair of Cowin E7 headphones for a few years because they were on a flash sale on Amazon, and had been the most recommended on YouTube for ASMR, so I picked them up for something like $16. Now the pleather on the earpads has come off and I'm trying to decide if I want to replace the earpads or replace the headphones altogether...What do you guys recommend for under $50 USD in the USA, that can be run both wired and wireless? I'm a club DJ so I need them to be wired for my CDJs and mixer, but when I am using my laptop they need to be wireless because asus sucks massive dicks with their headphone jacks on rog laptops (this is my second asus gaymen laptop where the 3.5mm plug won't stay connected despite being fully inserted/seated) and I prefer not to use dongles with my phone. Not picky about on ear/over the ear, and while active noise cancelling is nice, it's not a deal breaker if a recommendation doesn't have it; I rarely use it now on my E7's as is. Prefer no IEM though.
>>102810207m40x is alright, rest is dogshit>>102812448i have pro82 it sounds like shit
>>102809386ksc75 arent speakers
>>102811778what software is this
>>102813133>i have pro82 it sounds like shitWhat's the length of the cable that came with your Pro 82?
>>102813378i think it's the second gen, theyre not that different it still distorts in the treble not to mention bass
Does anyone know if there's a cheaper alternative to the IEMatch?
>>102814805find a low ohm impedance adapter on aliexpress?
>>102811781Why are we pretending as if that isn't what this general is
>>102813248If you place them in front of you then they are speakers.
>>102815076nah when you place speakers by your ears they still sound like shit
>>102815475Everything sounds like shit when it's close to your ears.
>>102805444They all sound different. Closed back sound different from open back, planar sound different from dynamic, electrostatic sound different from both. Even different dynamics, there are Sony niggerbass cannon headphones that will make a closed back Sennheiser feel weak on the bass response.
I've currently got a pair of long loved grado sr60s, but recently the HiFiMan sundra caught my eye. Would this be a step up or sideways move?
>>102812420Adx5000 purchaser here. Wait how the fuck did you know they have bass problems at high volume? Do not fret still enjoying them because i listen to rock and idolshit and touhou music and not your le dubstep and bass music :^)>op was coping with his purchaseYou mean op of the thread :D
>>102811959Of course youd try to buy gbshit while posting this shit
>>102816360Now son, youre pretending to be me? Theyre distortion free in the bass region fuck you grrrr
>>102815487speakers sound like shit regardless
>>102811562Just a narrow bump around 2000Hz and boost bass. It doesn't really require anything else.
>>102805407>Good open back planar headphones can produce as much bass as you wantWhat are some good open back planars? What's the least expensive decent planar available? I've heard of the Sundaras but apparently Hifiman quality control is shite.
>>102816537See >>102806642
cheap leather earpads from aliexpress arrived, the front seems to be genuine leather while the side is noton the right is stock meze 99 earpads which started flaking pretty quickly under mild usage on my 7506, the back torn easily while i was removing them
>>102816637hifiman. hifiman 400se. qc is shit.
>>102816637HE400 SE and some decent pads. Pick a store with minimum return pain and be prepared to do it several times.The cheapest ones I would recommend without qualification would be DCA Aeon. Maybe wait for a massdrop sale if you're interested in those.
>US>$1000>Closed>Neutral, mostly listen to metal>previous equipmentHD600 (love these), DT770 (love these as well with some EQ), Sennheiser HD 4.40 (good enough for wireless).I generally prefer to listen on speakers when possible. I have studio monitors at home and a 2.1 setup at work, but I like to have good headphones to reference as well.Looking for the most neutral closed headphone under $1000? Dan Clark Aeon?I love my my HD600s for the neutral signature and would like something comparable in closed.
>>102819085
I still own a pair of Akg k141 made in Austria. Best purchase I ever made
>buy first pair of studio headphones online>bass rattles my faggot skull too much at low volumes>can't wear them around the neck like i see people do sometimes>probably should just stick with IEMs>can't get my money back due to (((hygiene reasons)))time flies when you're a faggot
>>102816676See >>102807806
>>102813373PEACE eq, if you click on ''autoeq'' there are headphone presets
>>102816360because ITS IN THE DAMN GRAPHThe THD on that thing is awful, and has a terrible frequency response to boot so you have to EQ it to even sound tonally correct.As for the music you're listening to, you just don't understand how frequencies work. It's not uncommon for any music to have +10-20 db peaks in the bass/sub bass because of how insensitive your ears are to lower frequencies - which, coupled with EQ will result in utterly horrendous distortion.It doesn't just distort in low frequencies, it has audible distortion from 20hz-1khz and has a resonance distortion peak at ~2.2.khz.But if you're good with paying 2k for not hearing any punch, have any sub bass tactility and having incorrect tonality then hope you continue to enjoy it.>>102819085You're correct, Dan Clark Open X is the best closed back with a more correct tonality out of the box, and if you EQ it, it will be reference grade.And indeed, well under $1000
>>102819158Look nice, can't find any measurements or them though.
>>102819586Dan Clark Closed X*
>>102819467In what situation would you wear your headphones on your neck?
>>102819595because they're discontinued rare gems i wanted LMAOYOU BETTER OFF FINDING MEASUREMENTS IN SOME THIRD LANGAUGE WEBSITE
>>102819739when i'm out and about but need to be able to use my ears
>>102819874people typically use wireless earbuds for that
>>102819586Is there any reason to prefer the Drop version over the originals? Seems like the original can be had for a decent price used.
>>102819966i know. it's just that i won't ever buy wireless shit.
>>102820005cheap wireless earbuds sound fine and most people own a pair by now alongside their headphones they use exclusively at home
>>102820005Then get PortaPros for when you're out and about.
>>102819874A bunch of wireless headphones have transparency modes where the mics used for the ANC can be used to let you hear your surroundings. I'm surprised you can't wear them around your neck though what the fuck did you buy? I bet I could wrap my bulkiest over ears around my little pencil neck, are you roided out or what?
>>102820132typically you want the cups move to lay flat on you if you wish to wear them on your neck, but obv many dont
Anybody use an interface rather than a dedicated dac+amp? I've gotten use to mic monitoring while chatting, but I'm trying to avoid sacrificing fidelity if possible. I was thinking about the Muto m4 as an upgrade to my scarlett solo 3rd gen to drive my hd6xx. Any other suggestions?
>>102820153Ah yeah, I guess so.I'm fine with fixed around the house but I guess if I'm wearing them in public I'd want flat. But then I usually wear wireless BT headphones with ANC on the go and those almost always come with a swivel.
>>102819994It's really up to you if you want a new product or a used one. Look up distortion measurements if that matters to you.The only real thing I'd be worried about with dan clarks is leakage tolerance, all their headphones have awful leakage, if you even have a slight gap in seal you'll lose 20db in the bass
>>102807780I had a pair of those for a long time and I really liked them. I use HD 6XX and HE400SE now though. For a headset sometimes I use HyperX Cloud II.
>>102820205>Look up distortion measurements if that matters to you.I don't listen super loud or to super bassy music, so that shouldn't be a problem.Is that the main difference between them?
>>102809002Eh, not that great of a measurement though. That 2-3k dip is ugly. Mid bass bump and pretty poor quality treble. Not worth anywhere close to the price tag.
>>102811562>>102811599>>102811689I use oratory1990 PDF but I set the 7db 1.9k to 5db. It sounds better that way.
>>102820299that's what i want, i love mid bass hump, i love recessed laidback vocal presence the treble quality is WOW absolutely(my absolute trusted statement) worth the price tag
>>102811933Always use the Oratory1990 PDF when available. It's the best by quite a large margin.
>>102820250As i said to another anon, even if you don't listen to bassy/loud music, correct tonality is what matters and because our ears are insensitive to lower freq , lots of music can have bass peak +20db compared to the rest of the music.the drop version has a more 'correct' tonality out the box, is also cheaper and you'll prob get warranty/returns etc compared to buying used.just dont wear glasses with any dca headphone is all.
My first good pair of headphones were a Sennheiser HD 555 with the mod that makes them open again. They were pretty good headphones. I upgraded to Drop HiFiMAN HE5XX with balanced cables. Holy shit. They're awesome. I also bought a Beyerdynamic DT990 Premium 600ohms. I have some pretty powerful Headphone Amps, but let me tell you if you actually buy 600ohm headphones you want a dangerously powerful headphone amp. Like the over built Schiit amps. I haven't used them much. I'd like to get them modded to used balanced cables, but I haven't done that yet. Honestly I should probably sell them. I have my eye on one pair of headphones to upgrade to from the HE5XX, but I'm not really sure if it's even worth it.
I downloaded and installed the updated sound connect apk file for sony headphones and earphones and it keeps crashing. Anyone know whats going on?
>>102820338Have you ever tried the HD 800S?
>>102820392i tried 800, treble was weird
>>102820382Try the 990 with EQ by Oratory. They sound better that way. I have the 250 ohm 990 premium and yea they are still pretty inefficient.
>>102820362>just dont wear glasses with any dca headphone is all.Well that's unfortunate, I'm a glasses wearer, guess they're out for me.
>>102820203yes, i'm just an autist who rejects bluetooth entirely and didn't really think about the cup rotation since i never owned a pair of headphones. don't know whether i can get used to all that bass either. IEMs with chink replacement cables seems to be the way to go for me.
>>102820425this is the leakage response of the noire (WITHOUT GLASSES)the with glasses graph has extreme variability
>>102820416I've never tried an EQ with my headphones. I've heard of Oratory. Do I use something called MegaSwitcher? Or Oratory1990? I'm looking at 1990's Github, but I don't really understand what I'm supposed to download or use.
>>102820543Use EqualizerAPO to EQ on windows
Pic rel broke. Tried WH-CH720N returned em on the same day. Please recommend bass cannons>cable only>40mm drivers>high frequency range
>>102820382>Sennheiser HD 555 i'm still using a pair of Sennheiser HD 518 for over a decade straight. they refuse to die and i have a backup pair of HD 599 i got for dirt cheap new. i know the HD 518 are considered shit tier by everyone i am just too used to them and have grown too fond of them to simply put them away for good. even changed the pads recently and they look brand new still. plastic holds up incredibly well i don't know why people always insist on it being cheap when it doesn't rust or wear. if you take care of plastic headphones they can last forever.
>>102819586you wouldn't get it. despite the distortion, they sound absolutely unique with transient speed. their sound literally pierces your soul. every dynamic suffers of distortion due to moving diaphragm, it's a price to pay for but the resulting outcome is superb
>>102816368You didn't answer the question
>>102820543Install Equalizer APO and then install Peacegui. Input the numbers of the Oratory1990 PDF into the Peacegui and save it as a preset. Your EQ will look something like my picture. In the Peacegui settings, under the "Sizes and Amounts settings" tab make the Snap to dB gain 0.01.
>>102811959Neither, retard. Now shoo, humans are talking here.
>>102820585>>102820838Alright cool. Thank You.
>>102820702>if you take care of plastic headphones they can lastDepends on the plastic. Not all plastic is equal. And if the manufacturer didn't keep the formula true it won't matter. The plastic will be defective over time. Plastic will be the 21st century's asbestos.
>>102820940i don't know what sennheiser used/uses but their plastic is very well made and built to last i guess.
>>102820722>transient speed>sounds "unique"cope wordsyour $2000 dynamic trash sucks and has distortion and no speed
>>102821037hear them before you judge, kid one.
>>102820870Some people actually go outside and need good looking wireless headphones to travel with and go to the gym.Nobody wants your ugly, wired, impractical and archaic looking incelphones.
>>102821665Nobody thinks your poorfag knockoff Airpod maxes look good, loser.If you actually went outside you'd know that.
>>102821707>paying for Goyple productsLolLmao evenGigavaxxed
>>102821776>cares about what others think of his headphones outside>too poor and chuddy to actually get the headphones that would let him fit inThis is honestly just sad
hi /hpg/i want a pair of closed back headphones that are comfortable and not bass cannons, with a budget of 100 British pounds. what are my options?
>>102821665Nobody thinks closed headphones of any description look good on a man. You just come off as a spastic. Women wear them as a pretense not to engage with you, and this is the only correct application.
>>102821877see >>102810302
>>102820587focal azurys
Gotta say, adx5000 provided details i never hear in songs, something entirely other worldly. different than my other headphones.
>>102821877what does "not bass cannons" mean.would you consider correct tonality a 'bass cannon' because its reproducing the song accurately?
>>102822324can you stop coping with your purchase itt
>>102822778cant let people enjoy things?
>>102809974I have the MMX 330 and previously a Maxwell. I prefer the MMX. Can't speak for the 300 but since the drivers are the same I'd pick 'em over the Maxwell.I love open design for the fact that I can hear myself speak without cringy sidetone alone.
>>102819467>hygiene reasonsthreaten to sue also feels good to be euro>>102820538this is not leakage you dumb fuck
>>102824133right my fault on use of words nigga its the reponse to the blocked ear canal entrance (which can in some part be inferred by its leakage tolerance), and it already has some pretty big variability, the leakage with glasses makes this shit infinitely worse (DCA Stealth even more awful at this)
>>102804730> don't force everyone to listen to your musicIf other people can hear your music you will be deaf very soon.
>>102824308>NIGGUHmy headphones only fit my head in one position it's consistent you should look at how those graphs are made
>>102821707>>102821776>>102821860How good are Airpod Maxes anyway?
>>102824498its not about positioning on your head. these are measurements across a variety of listeners and the response on their head, closed backs (dan clarks) have large variability across listeners plain and simple - and even then i'd still rec the op buy dan clarks if he really wants closed back headphones
>>102824609>these are measurements across a variety of listeners and the response on their headis the claim you make knowing fully well that's not what was measured
>>102824692that is LITERALLY the response measured on 15 listeners at the blocked ear canal for the noire
>>102824746>blocked ear canalhrtf is pinna, canal and psychoacoustics (and maybe fucking idk bone conducation) and everyone hears speakers the same way this data is worthless
>>102824796right it's definitely sean olive thats wrong here and is wasting his time
>>102820328I don't like how Oratory brings down the very upper treble, it makes the headphones sound muffled to me, maybe it's because I'm in my 30s and my ears are aging and losing upper frequencies but I actually prefer a boost in that area, opens up the sound nicely but then again I use them with the Meier crossfeed filter on and that also takes away some treble I believe
>>102825059>ad patronumi think i've already told you you can't think for yourself that's why you value opinion of others over thinking by yourself, i know my competence i dont know what he was measuring that for, i think it's pretty clear that he knows that harman doesnt suit everyone because of differences in anatomy and i agree with that your point is that DCA has higher variance across individuals and i dont think that's necessarily true that's about normal for headphones afaik>>102825072maybe if you read the text thats like 3 lines below the graph you'd know what to do you senile fucking imbecile
>>102825184you do not know your own competence frankly.i've already told you its a measurement showing that it has variance making it highly unlikely someone saying a headphone sounding good will transfer over to another human - in this case the guy asking for closed back recs. that was the precise reason it was measured.my point is that closed backs in general have high variance across many people in comparison to closed backs and op should know that before he spends >$800 on a pair of headphones.and in this case, the measurements for the noire are actually a lot tighter tan tons of closed backs measurements, so if he wants to buy a headphone, his original idea for a used noire is not a bad one.
>>102825316>highly unlikely someone saying a headphone sounding good will transfer over to another humanare you retarded? there's 3 outliers and everything else is almost identicalopen back have the same issue
>>102825357>3 outliers
>>102825392>posts the thumbnail and it's my faultfrankly i dont see shit on this one
i meanall i see is phase cancellation shifted ~500hz and ear canal resonance compensation ~3khz
>>102824574They're not absolute shit, surprisingly. Obviously you'd still be better off with some open-back planars but as far as normgroid headphones go they're okay
snoys came in, swapped the pads immediatelyfirst impressions, very bass heavy, pretty ok sounding. fine for walking outside where u just want non garbage headphones
>>102820205>>102820425Well, all closed-backs are sensitive to seal to some degree. Some more so than others and some may be better at consistently achieving a seal across a large number of different listeners, but with glasses you probably can't avoid losing at least a few dB of sub-bass.>>102820172>I was thinking about the Muto m4 as an upgrade to my scarlett solo 3rd gen to drive my hd6xxThe Motu M4 has more power into high impedance (pic related, M4 hp out is identical to M2, see ASR), so it will get louder. THD+N is also better, but that's likely not audible.Since you have the Scarlett Solo I assume you don't actually need 4 channels, in which case the M2 would be the more sensible choice since it's basically the same except for having only 2 channels.And if you only care about the better hp out, connecting a proper hp amp like a Topping L50 to the line out of your Scarlett Solo would get you a lot more power still.
>>102825184What the fuck are you talking about? The oratory preset for the he-400se have a -2.4db shelf band starting at like 10k hz, it makes the headphones sound like muffled garbage
>>102825072>I don't like how Oratory brings down the very upper treble, it makes the headphones sound muffled to meWhat are you talking about? He only brings down 8 kHz by a tiny bit.
>>102825784grow your brain a bit
What's the go-to non-chink balanced DAC these days?
>>102825483>open-back>closed-backw-what's the diffrenceI want headphones that sound actually good and I can wear them while traveling and maaaybe to the gymThey'd also have to be wireless since my phone doesn't have the jackBudget is maybe 300 eurodollars
>>102826509You'd be better off googling the open-back question, but the short version is that they typically sound more natural and you can hear stuff around you. It's almost like earbuds that don't go inside your ears, except actually well tuned.So if your use-case is traveling and gym, then they would not be a good choice, since you want sound isolation. 300 eurobux is a lot to spend on some bluetooth headphones for outside, you wouldn't really get much benefit spending that much. I'd recommend just getting a <100$ pair for outside use, like Soundcore Q30 or something. And if you still care about sound, spend more on a proper pair of open-backs for home usage. You'll need something to plug them into though.
>>102803697have been ages since I've been on /g/ so don't know if this has been discussed before.. so I have a questionI have a bunch of broken headphones lying around.. is it feasible to repair them with 3 printing? is there any resource to check for designs or something like that?
>>102826721*laying
>>102826721theyre old hygiene products that people dont want to buy second handyou would have to create the 3d model of the part yourself
>>102826808that's what I guessed, will look on the internet for people that has done already and see how much can be done and what the results are, thanks
Ananda or Edition Xs? I have zero desire to use an amp. If it's unavoidable, I'll use a small dongle or something.
>>102825072"adjust treble to preference by tweaking band 3"are you retarded
>>102827114Edition XS should be pretty good, it's cheaper and measures better than the Ananda.
>>102825708I seriously appreciate the help. I do also have a pair of powered speakers I have connected to the line out of my solo right now. In the case of the M2 then I should be covered since it has a line out RCA and TRS, if I ended up wanted separate amp anyway, correct?My primary desire for now is to get the best I can out of my current equipment with flexibility to fit in upgrades if possible if I get a new headphone or something. With this in mind do I stand to gain anything with the M4 vs. M2? It seems like I could easily fit in a better amp with the dual line outs, but are the DACs in these interfaces even worth comparing against one another? And is the line input on the back of the M4 just an extra mix? That is, if I wanted to use a better DAC for my computer audio/music, would I be able to feed it into that line input and actually benefit? I'm unsure if that's how that works.
>>102821665What the fuck is wrong with you?
Based on a whopping 30 whole minutes of mic research, I think I'm going to buy something SHURE.Could someone convince me otherwise? I've been using a LAV mic for a while, after falling for the /g/ headset guide meme years ago, and think I'm ready to buy something high quality (<$222)
>>102828070Buy an XM8500 and be done with it. You don't need some fancy expensive mic.
>location (country you're shipping from and shipping to)italy/slovenia/germany along these three countries>budgetaround 100€, less is better>open/closed backdont know what it means, checked: dunno its the same>sound signature (what kind of music do you like best)prog rock, prog electronic, ambient but to be fair I will probably mostly use them from gaming and being on my puter the whole day>previous equipment10 years old HyperX MSIP REM-K98 CloudI assume the "to go" choice is still HyperX for non-sound nerds. Asking on here just to check if that still holds, sorry if Im boring.
>>102827188>In the case of the M2 then I should be covered since it has a line out RCA and TRS, if I ended up wanted separate amp anyway, correct?Yes. That said, many headphone amps also have passthrough or preamp outputs to which you could connect your speakers, e.g. the Topping L50 I mentioned above has unbalanced and balanced passthrough outputs which work even if it's powered off.>It seems like I could easily fit in a better amp with the dual line outsYes, but also see the above.>are the DACs in these interfaces even worth comparing against one another?ASR measured both, the DAC is identical:https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/motu-m4-audio-interface-review.15757/https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/motu-m2-review-audio-interface.19911/>That is, if I wanted to use a better DAC for my computer audio/music, would I be able to feed it into that line input and actually benefit? I'm unsure if that's how that works.Not 100% sure on this either, but the DAC in the Motu M2/M4 is already very good so I don't see how you could benefit even if it works. Even the DAC in the Scarlett Solo 3 is more than good enough. You won't hear a difference between 100/110/120 dB SINAD.
does anyone have a good pad recommendation for fostex t20rp mk2?
>>102831049Shure HPAEC1840, Brainwavz oval micro-suede or velour, ZMF Ori. Be aware you'll change the sound though.
>Wireless>between $100 and $150>Over-ear>NO GOD DAMN TOUCH CONTROLSwat do when Austrian Audio my beloved committed the cardinal sin? I want to get away from these piece of shit Sony's precisely cause of the touch controls. Also because too much bass.
>daily drive DT 990's at home PC>like them, 10kHz Beyer peak is not an issue>do a frequency sweep on them>can hear everything up to 16kHz>which is my tinnitus I had before the 990'sIs this normal?
Never realized that DT 880 Black Edition has a different sound signature than the originals. Applied the Oracle eq recommendations (with a few minor changes), and I'm really happy with how they sound.I know people hate on Beyer, but they seem to take EQ really well and can get pretty neutral.
>>102832820It just means you're in your 30s.
>>102833021>30'sMid 20's actually. Also on a second check with a static frequency generator I can still hear tones up to 19kHz. And I still have tinnitus.
Because your ear tunnel structure is uneven and it affects lower frequencies not the highest
>picrel for 30 freedom bucksI saw hyper cloud II listings for even less and that thing comes with a mic. I need some validation, buyer remorse is kicking in hard rn
>>102833373These are legit decent, Clouds got ruined when HP bought HyperX
>>102830138takstar gm200cheap closed back with decent tuning for the closed backs in the price range
>>102827114>I have zero desire to use an ampthen you shouldn't buy planars, mine sound like shit through my phone dongle/mobo
>>102827114>I want planars>but no amp???
>>102833373ISK MDH8500 is the HyperX Cloud, your model is the semi open back model.
>>102833846Im just finding Takstar PRO 82 Black.Informing myself better now: ideally Id want positional audio for competitive gaming and mic is a pluswhat else is good?
>>102834372just buy it from aliexpress
What are our thoughts on the Dekoni Blue (Fostex Mk50RP Mk 3 but for lazy people)
>>102834424What about Philips SHP9500/00
>>102832836Yea the black edition 880 has bass that is closer to the 990.
>>102834901More interested in the T50RP mk4 with its new driver desu
>>102835266probably fine, but its open so noises of the environment will mix in with the music
>>102830138Audio technica m40x might also be an option. It's closed back.
i just bought my first pair of high end headphones, the ZMF Atrium Open backs, did i do good? they won't be in until another few weeks. I'm also going to be running them on the DX9 by topping.
>>102835572they seem to be stylish enough to wear on the bus
>>102835572What's your job, you seem rich
>>102835572Squiggly line looks pretty bad but I gotta respect the craftsmanship
>>102835678>>102835572The Atticus and Verite graphs look pretty atrocious. So as long as you know you likely won't be getting a "reference" or "neutral" sound you might enjoy them. But the audio will likely be coloured. Think of a headphones graph as the EQ you apply to all the music you listen to.
>>102835357Wait, they're making a new one? I figured Fostex went out of business a decade ago.
>>102835707what is the price compromised of if the fq response is so wack?
>>102835678>>102835707the curve is a reference and not a rule to follow, it's basically what forms the headphones identity, Atriums are basically considered the best open headphones on the market right now from both sound signature and style.
>>102835759>Atriums are basically considered the best open headphones on the market right now from both sound signature and styleAccording to who exactly? Certainly not me.>>102835755Build, limited numbers, niche product etc.
>>102835572Weight: 490g ± 30gWow, these things are also very heavy. Just make sure you like them a lot if you decide to keep them.
>>102835785>According to who exactly? Certainly not me.Well in this price bracket according to the "headphone show" because they did put them at the top of their list, only thing above it costs $6000 - $50.000
>>102835827They are also friends with ZMF. They talk with him at all the audio/headphone shows etc and socialize. Just keep that in mind. I'm not saying his headphones are bad but yea.
>>102835827Those guys are worse than zeos
How do you know you're listening at a safe volume without buying a meter? I've tried some apps but they seem pretty inaccurate.
>>102835877If your ears don't hurt it's fine.
>>102835904I hope so. I already have tinnitus but I'd rather not make it worse.
>>102835870>>102835876Well all headphones in this price range are going to be a nice listening experience to 99% of the people who don't smell their own farts and sip wine. I'd venture to say it's a safe purchase.
>>102830385>That said, many headphone amps also have passthrough or preamp outputs to which you could connect your speakers, e.g. the Topping L50I hadn't even thought of that since the old headphone amp I used did not. That would make things easy!>the DAC in the Motu M2/M4 is already very good so I don't see how you could benefit even if it works. Even the DAC in the Scarlett Solo 3 is more than good enough.In that case then I should probably start with improving my setup with an amp more than the interface itself, and only look towards getting an M2 down the road if I find it necessary. I'm not on a particularly tight budget, so I'm open to suggestions, but based on the great reviews of the L50 it seems like a good pick regardless of budget?
>>102835745They're still going strong, the mk4 was recently launched and a few places sell them already.I found out completely by chance too.
>>102807697I was gonna go for the bone conduction meme but they don't have wired ones. Open ear it is then
>>102836300I'm curious if they still benefit heavily from being modded like the Mk 3 or if they're just perfect out of the box this go-aroundMy interest in them was the idea that you'd get superior sound quality at a low price point IF you were willing to put in the work (or buy the Dekoni mod if you're lazy)
>>102833373i had them they're shit
>>102825550You actually wear those outside?
>>102837169ye only true ballers wear studio cans outsideits like wearing a vintage watch, other audio nerds will be like "omg what pads r those, oh yeah ive got this amp at home its rly cool, r u hype for the new fiio ft1, what pmp do u use" etc etc
>>102837197>studio>omg what pads r those, oh yeah ive got this amp at home its rly cool, r u hype for the new fiio ft1, what pmp do u useholy fucking consoomer garbageyou literally dont care about sound just consooming
>>102837227ive got 2 pairs of headphones, 1 for inside 1 for outsideive just also met audio people on the street and its a cool conversation starter when you see them with hd580s with custom pads and cable
>>102837100That's exactly what I'm wondering too, only found a single >reddit post about them and that didn't include internal shots, so we don't know if they have foam in the cups like the 50th anniversary edition.Apparently they significantly revamped the driver so it's now both lower impedance and much more sensitive. Drawback is their price point seems to be significantly higher than the mk3.The Dekoni "mod" is just pads, by the way.
>>102837256>custom pads and cableyou literally dont care about sound just consoomingyou have a money spending fetish some sick status chasing game fucking disgusting
>>102837263head-fi's got a thread on 'em with internals from Page 4 onwardshttps://www.head-fi.org/threads/fostex-t50rpmk4-rp.972600/page-4
>>102837300>pads degrade and need new cable>cable wears out so u buy new cablebut yeah say i dont care about sound to my setup lol
thoughts on the JDS Labs Element III MK2? looks aesthetic af and seems like it will power literally anything
>>102837390you are insufferable
>>102837354Oh very nice, looks like the cups are still empty so now I really want to hear what a fully Alpha modded pair sounds like. Could be a cool mobile-friendly alternative base.
>>102837438u come in here, call someone out for no reason, and then get annoyed they don't respond how you want them toif you're like that, everyone is insufferable
Best use of $1000? Still going to be using my sundaras at my desk, but looking at something nicer for more focused listening Cheap Stax (SR-X1000 combo)Aryas Speakers also why are aryas $600 now? weren't they $1200+??
>>102837573speakers definitely
post some good looking headphone stands
>>102837515nah buddy that's my fucking thread you sound like you browse reddit btw
are "cooling gel" earpads legit or are they just a meme ? I am thinking about trying a different ear pad for my wh-ch720n
>>102837573X1000. Aryas are bad and most speakers are ass until the genelec price point.
>>102837738https://headphonesaddict.com/headphone-earpads/>Are cooling gel ear pads worth it?The cooling gel ear pads only stay cooler for the first hour or so. After that they tend to get even hotter than regular ear pads. The gel stores heat and then starts radiating it back. So, for extended use, cooling gel pads also get hot. And because the material is less ventilating, it keep the temperature up.>Good ventilation is a better alternative for keeping your earpads cool over long hours. So, look for loosely knit, breathable fabric ear pads that have great ventilation.
>>102837707i dont but ill let u bake next time then it can be ur thread
imagine, there was people itt who couldnt buy a fiio ft1 while they were in stockmust suck.
>>102837949i was thinking of getting a pair but they looked a bit too cheap for my use case and the closed sundaras were even worse so i had to pass
>>102838112they're def value orientedmaybe you can look at >>102836300 them being planar that costs 2x
Just bought a pair of Abyss Diana Dz headphones, thoughts?
>>102838277what colour is your fursuit
>>102838366lol whats that suppose to mean
>>102838137i ended up getting the sony mdr7506 at a massive discount and some yaxi pads and that was all i rly needed in the end. i rly needed some cans that don't mind being thrown in a bag and sound pretty good. these fit the bill at a fraction of the price of the fiios.
>>102838382abyss is the bdsm sex dungeon looking headphones
>>102837197>r u hype for the new fiio ft1That will literally never happen.
>>102837573KEF LS50 Metas.
>>102837573speakers for sure. headphones are cope
>>102839307I feel like half of the price there is them being wireless because that adds 200€ for some reason + looks
any good headphones yet?
>>102839604Physically impossible for headphones to be good
>>102837851>most speakers are ass until the genelec price pointa pair of 8020D is $1100, so not out of reach
>>102839945You also need a sub and measurement mic
>>102840000>You also need a sub
>>102840062upvoted good sir
Shit-tier gamer here looking to replace my 8 year old, dying headset/mic, trying to keep it around/under 150.Stuck between a PC38x or 560s+Antlion. Any tie breakers, or alternatives to consider?>USA>~150>Open prefered>Mainly used for gaming/voice chat>Replacing Sennheiser (598, I think) with a vodaphone mic mod.
>>102839945>>102840000Yeah, probably should have clarified that I'm looking at $1000 "all in" for the speakers since I'm going to need a separate chain since they won't be in my office plus stands, a sub, exotic audiophile-grade platinum-woven rugs to hang on my walls, etc. I know jack shit about speakers so still getting up to speed. Anyone have reccs for $200 powered speakers I can buy/return from Lord Bezos to see if I even like them?
>>102839534The regular LS50 Meta is not wireless.
>>102840428I don't think you will find any decent powered speakers for $200.
why did you fuckers kill the speaker general. do zoomers not buy speakers?
>>102840777The majority of the youth live in loud urban areas either in ze pod, with roommates, or with their parentsListening to anything without ANC in an apartment full of future doctors, lawyers, and engineers is a pointless endeavor
>>102840777Speakers are low fi and thus don't generate enough interest for a general.
>>102837851No reason to spend over $300 on main speakers, most of the budget should be spent on subs. For far field adam t5v has directivity 90% as good as genelecs and before genelecs there's kef which is 99% as good. And for near-field you don't even need good directivity.
>>102804730>white people musicwhat is white people music?
>>102842352two steps from hell
>>102840428Adam T5V/T7VJBL 305P/306P MkIIKali LP-6 V2
pls brush ur waveforms anons practice good hygiene ok
>>102840760for my friend i had him get presonus eris for his desk and a ugreen dac and its been working fine for himim sure its nothing compared to my krks and klipsch subs but he says he likes the bass response compared to his old pc speakers
>have a pair of BT headphones>zero stuttering issues>buy a new pair>stutters every five fucking seconds and is literally unusable without being plugged inmeme fucking technology, BT is the most worthless fucking tech ever invented
>>102838432How do the mdr7506 sound? They are used by a lot of musicians and studio engineers but if you go looking for reviews by consoomers they often blast them as too shrill or something
new thread>>102845700>>102845700>>102845700
>>102845406>They are used by a lot of musicians and studio engineers...to monitor recording lines to make sure equipment is working as expected. They're supposed to be durable and hygienically sharable. Sounding good isn't a priority. Shrillness can be fixed with EQ, but mdr7506 has little headroom very poor bass response by modern standards.
>>102840428Kali LP UNF seem to measure very well if you're using them near field.I got some Yamaha HS5s used for $200. Studio monitors will be flatter, but trickier connectivity wise depending on your source.
