okay niggers answer me this question:
do I go for Aeon 2 open back for 320 or for focal clears for 570 from a weird swedish hifi forum

>>102901859
and amp/dac wise. jotun 2 for 300+modi multi bit for 180 or bifrost 1 for 250?

Are there any measurements of the fecal lensys yet?

Any good headphones yet?

I need a high current low impedance headphone amp that looks cool and sophisticated

>>102901829
I want something
-LIGHT
-COMFORABLE
-DIRT CHEAP
-WIRED (hopefully usb3.0)

>>102904059
Beyerdynamic T1

>>102901859
Aeon 2, new Topping E/L 30II for 300

>>102904165
>>>/v/

>>102904165
Audeze maxwell

>>102904165
susvara unveiled

>>102904340
>>102904373
>>102904696
you can just say you have low iq

>>102904842
Airpods pro

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>Replaced XM4s with XM5s
>XM5s auto adjust ANC so anytime you do something you get that air sound
>Replaced them with the Bose QC Ultra or w/e
>Left cup clicks everytime I move in the slightest
>Picked up a pair of PX8
>Can hear my heartbeat in the earcups

I should have just fucking bought another pair of XM4s. I have to have the ANC because I like walking around my apartment with the dead silence. Maybe once the band loosens up on the PX8 the heartbeat thing will go away.

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>>102905023
Buy Stax.

>>102905033
I used to have a nice wired set up with Aeons and the like but it's nice being able to walk around while listening to something or whatever.

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>>102905033
are stax for a white man? are they for niggers? I've heard both.

>>102905469
Well the white man is autistic so you should get Sennheiser 800s
But Focal is also appreciated by the rice guys so I guess you can decide if you want to go French or German .

>>102905532
Well said
I will not join the french, as I have no intention of surrendering

>>102905023
Why not get one of the cheapo BT ANC headphones from Anker or the top Scarbir rec for iems?
You can use that for walking around and some nice non ANC closed headphones for the rest of the time.

>>102901829
>location (country you're shipping from and shipping to)
Chile, I have access to aliexpress and amazon
>budget
using them in public in the 3rd world so under $100
>open/closed back
the one that's better for noise cancelling I guess
>sound signature (what kind of music do you like best)
general use
>previous equipment
sony pulse 3d

Looking for something comfortable and portable. The Pulse 3D are fine (I changed the sponges) but I'd prefer something lighter and wired. I already asked this and someone pointed me towards the Anker Soundcore Life Q20 (thank you btw) and they look alright but they mention in the reviews that they might be too heavy, so if anyone knows about an alternative that'd be great.

any gud wireless headphones that are below 150$

>>102906282
yes

>>102906026
Status CB1 or Takstar Pro 82. Closed, wired headphones under $100 are a tricky recommendation. Most of the budget stuff is wireless these days, and some of it is great.
>>102906282
I have the Sennheiser HD 4.40 and like them a lot. I think the Sennheiser 450 are the updated model. Don't have ANC which I prefer.

>>102906026
how about some chink earbuds, they come with anc and sound fine

>>102907035
I resisted wireless earbuds for a long time, but they've gotten really good for dirt cheap.

>>102907035
tinnitus. Can't use earbuds. Pretty sure they gave it to me to begin with.

>>102907246
I dont see how tinnitus would impact wearing iems

Looking to upgrade from the DT 770's to the obvious DT-1770's but wondering if there's something with better sound that's durable in the $500 range. Closed back due to noisy house, listen to mostly Metal and some soundtracks. Input appreciated.

>>102907391
mdr m1

>>102907470
Those look great actually. Why are they so cheap?

>>102907595
>>102907470
whats the fq response?

>>102907595
they are more expensive compared to the previous models
i assume if they are priced too high, people would not consider them for studio use and just stick to 7506/cd900st
>>102907635
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzJqGf1rIio

>>102907660
I dont know how to read the charts unless theres preference bounds clearly marked

>>102907595
cheap??? I usually hear the completely opposite opinion
"too expensive!! the 7506 is way cheaper!!!"
yeah the 7506 is way cheaper, but it's also a 40 year old outdated piece of shit

btw very unfortunate that there are still so few reviews and shit about these, been almost a month already, why won't people consume the product

>>102907276
it gets louder

>>102908279
Are you sure it gets "louder" rather than just more noticeable because you're so well insulated from outside environment?
Some reddit post recced "Download an equalizer and lower 1-3.5k by 2+ db. ", idk if that helps.

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>>102906432
could you name some please
>>102906467
i'll look into those thanks

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>>102907888
flat = good

>>102910019
but the m1 isnt very loli

>>102904165
koss ksc75/kph40/porta pro + apple dongle
>usb3.0
2.0 bandwidth is more than enough for audio

>>102910108
Is there a closed back equivalent?

>>102910034
what is that supposed to mean

>>102910282
mdr m1 = hag

>>102910285
but... shouldn't it be the other way around?
the 7506 is almost 40... the m1 isn't even one year old... i don't get it

Bose QC Ultra refurbished now or wait for Black Friday to buy new?

>>102910316
age is just a number

>>102910365
new, the important part for wireless device is their battery

>>102901829
What's the most comfortable / best fitting headphones? I can't get my 599's or 560s to not be uncomfortable on my ears I'm adjusting them 100 times a day and it's driving me mad

>>102910491
usually open backs can have very comfortable fit since they dont require a tight seal that closed backs do, the pad opening can be large enough to not touch the earlobe

Takstar pro 82 has been a common comfy rec for closed backs. Theres takstar gm200 these days you cant try.
x2hr have large pad opening, lots of padding with a comfort strap

>>102910491
HD 800 (S), very large pads, low clamp force, not heavy
>uncomfortable on my ears
What's the issue exactly? Too much clamp force? Pads too small/shallow? Something else?

>>102910518
also the snoy mdr7506 can be had for like 60 bucks and if you add some yaxi pads theyre pretty comf

>>102910270
Get some JVC flats if you want even more dirt cheap than the Koss. They look like toys but sound great for the price.
They're on ear and closed, but they don't really block much sound, you're going to have to go with iems for that if you want dirt cheap, check out Scarbir.

>>102910653
I'm not sure exactly, I don't think it's clamp force but I'll leave them on my tower tonight to stretch them some more I think the pads might be too small/shallow because I keep trying to fit them on my ears properly so it's not touching the top/bottom of the ear but I can never get ti right then after 30min it's an irk, are there good replacement pads that improve them a bit? The worst thing is before the 560s/599s I had 2 pairs of Sennheiser G4ME or the equivalent and never had an issue, then I upgrade to nicer headphones and can't get comfortable

>>102910481
Makes sense. Thank you.

>>102910795
Don't think there are pads with a much larger opening, not really doable physically.
There might be deeper pads but they'll inevitably change sound.
>The worst thing is before the 560s/599s I had 2 pairs of Sennheiser G4ME or the equivalent and never had an issue
Aren't those pretty much the same in terms of pad size?

>>102911043
Yes they should be which makes me think it was something else. The 560S has more clamping pressure so I figured I'd try the 599's which are supposed to be basically exactly the same as the G4ME, I'm a month in now and they still feel uncomfortable around the ears. I just ordered some highly rated replacement pads that some people said are much better than stock, it might harm the sound quality but I'll take comfort over anything right now

Bought used Focal Clears off of a Swede for 550€, what amp/dac do I drive them with?

Please give me like three options, I want to get them used and a lot of stuff hifi is just not being sold used.

>>102908652
that's part of it, most likely
but I've noticed that even with fancy anc headsets it's far more tolerable than when using IEMs, noise cancelling or not.
>>102906467
>Status CB1 or Takstar Pro 82
thanks famalam. I found the first one locally.

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>>102905469
get some bavarian made ultrasones

>DAC is $299 new, hifi jew sells it for €350+shipping+currency conversion+paypal fees and only takes buyers with at least 5 year old ebay accounts
>item listed since march
why are they like that? you can't do business like this

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>>102911360

>>102911426
>i'm wondering why audiophool snake oil is sold at massive markups
retard

>>102911208
brand wise, you can't really go wrong with fiio/smsl/topping/loxjie/jdslab/monolith, any of their desktop model will do
also grab a 5usd cx31993 dongle from aliexpress to see if the purchase was worth it

>>102911572
>also grab a 5usd cx31993 dongle from aliexpress to see if the purchase was worth it
what is this supposed to mean?
what's there to see? there's no measurable difference between a 5$ dongle and a 300$ dac, you don't need to waste money on one to figure out it's pointless

>>102911651
so that anon can get buyer remorse after a/b testing it himself

>>102911651
imagine being such an npc you believe this

>>102904037
haven't seen any
150€ extra over the Azurys seem a bit insane to me, considering it doesn't appear to be that different except for colors, included cables and maybe some change to tuning
but then again, Fecal prices have always been kinda insane

Can anyone recommend good Bluetooth adapter for MMCX earphones? Specifically for Etymotic ones. Their official one has been discontinued. Also the Shure one.

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Anyone have experience with the Kennerton Gjallarhorn JM edition?

>>102846348
Tell me what to buy, FUCK.

>>102912293
imagine being such an audiophool you have to cope like this

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>>102912843
srh840 i already told you

>>102912459
>>>/g/iemg

>>102912843
Foil FT1 or the new Sony MDR M1 seem like your best non 770 options under $200.

>>102912964
kill yourself

>>102912964
what's wrong with you?

>>102912984
>>102913073
I don't understand the controversy? Anon wants closed under 200 euros that are wireless or with a detachable cable. I'm not the anon who keeps recommending the Fiios to everyone, they just seem like a decent option given his budget, I like the 770 myself.
What else is there to recommend?

>>102913805
bullet to the head
chemotherapy maybe

>>102913805
just ignore the antis
they just dont get it

>>102913805
>What else is there to recommend?
770 pro x

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Basednnheiser

adx

Gotta ask, are there any compelling options in the compact, fold-able on ear headphone with wireless options market these days?

I have some AKG 451s that i've had for about 7 years and are still serving me well with regular cable transplants, but i was wondering if there are any good alternatives that are wireless. Everything these days seem to be massive over ear headphones whos cases would take up a third of my bag.

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>>102917261
bluetooth porta-pro
i have this, but it doesnt fold (jlab something, i forgot)
there are bluetooth chink clip-ons and backphones too

What headphones are for a black man?

I've gotten 2 different sets of replacement pads for my Sennheiser HD 4.40s, and both of them have altered the sound. One from Ali and one from Bezos.
Is there a way to get them from Sennheiser directly or are these things going to turn into e waste because I can't find correct replacement pads?

>>102917918
Sennheiser's new owners is focusing mostly on the commercial market and consumer is an afterthought, it's especially weird because all their consumer stuff is now branded under their "hearing" side.

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What is the best set of bone conductive headphones?

>>102907246
I have tinnitus and have no issue with earbuds. It's all about how loud you're blasting music, and if you're taking good care of your hearing (i.e, if you're doing something where there is excessive noise, you need good earplugs.)

>>102918088
The sound with the new pads isn't awful, but I might just sell these and move on. Just a shame all the closed over ear headphones now have ANC. I don't really have any need for it.

>>102911572
bought a magni 3 modi 3 stack because it'll arrive by wednesday together with the headphones. might later upgrade the magni to the jotun 2 because some audiojews told me that it's going to give me a bigger soundstage and more separation which the same audiojews told me the clears might be lacking a little compared to other headphones in the same premium/flagship price segment

>>102919063
i've been looking into these because i have retarded mutant ear holes and buds always slip out when exercising no matter the size, but people always say they sound weird and uncomfortable. like the music vibrates into your head and not into your ear. sounds very uncomfy and awkward.

>>102919444
>he fell for the meme

oh no she bought a piece of audio equipment that isnt either made by RME or $5 what a dumbass

>>102919205
not op but, if i use iems i get insanely bad tinnitus. I don't play anything loud either. Doesn't seem to be an issue if I use shitty apple earbuds tho

>>102917742
skullcandy crusher

>>102917742
Focal, beater AKG or Sony studio monitors

looking for comfy closed back over ear headphones that fully go around your ear, like sennheisers. I cant stand the perfectly circular earcups. I have a pair of open backed sennheisers already and i want a closed pair with a little more fun bass.

Budget is about $300

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I fell for the grado meme because some wop loser on here told me that they were "good" and "made in America" but for the last 3 years I think I've only been able to wear them for 15 minutes at a time max, the bass is awful, they make my ears hot, and they arrived covered in marinara sauce stains. Is there literally any open back headphone where the bass doesn't want to make me suck the shit out of my own asshole, can be worn for more than half an hour at a time, and also doesn't cost enough that I have to take out a reverse mortgage on the trailer I live in? I don't care where theyre manufactured at this point as long as it's not made by filthy deaf new yorkers.

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>>102921464
>and they arrived covered in marinara sauce stains.

Guys, any advice for headphones with flat sound (for mixing etc) and with form factor like the koss porta pro?
I've been using portas for like 10 years now and i just can't use anything else, im too spoiled by them, they're light and comfy but i do need a better sound. So is there anything ?
i've found that grado is kinda what i want but reviews say that build quality is lacking , even the anon above is mentioning how they're bad

>>102921110
>sony studio monitors
no these are for the white man
the black man is rocking beyerdynamics

>>102921902
We're both looking for the same thing man, and let me tell you, DO NOT do the grados for mixing. They're light because they're shit, the cable sucks, you can't wear them for long periods of time, hell, the only good thing about them is how open the sound stage is but I'd trade that for literally any decent open back that doesn't fucking suck. Just want to see if anyone has any suggestions that aren't a pain of dt 990's because surely someone has made something better in the last 4 decades.

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Very happy with the sound on my ATH-R70xs BUT the build quality is utter dogshit and within a month the left cable connector doesn't play sound unless it's inserted and held in a VERY specific position. Don't suppose anyone knows how to fix such an obscure issue? (I've taken them apart twice now and can't find anything wrong, even with the shitty solder job on the paper thin cables to the drivers)

Alternatively, any recs for a pair of open back headphones in similar price range with a similar sound profile that doesn't have dogshit quality?

>>102919444
It won't. Your stack is good enough.

t. owns a Jotunheim 2

>location (country you're shipping from and shipping to)
canadia
>budget
<$1k
>open/closed back
open
>sound signature (what kind of music do you like best)
neutral or warm, planars preferred
>previous equipment
shp 9500/9600, sundara, he4xx, dt 770

looking for something comfortable that won't hurt my jaw like my sundaras. Arya sounds good but is too bright and hurts my jaw. Focal clears seem like they will hurt.

>>102922091
hd600/650/6xx
>>102922502
DCA Aeon Open X. Very comfy.

>>102905033
Ignoring comfort and build quality, do they really sound better than an EQed HE400se?

>>102921464
Philips Fidelio X2HR

>>102919447
If you want something for exercise these aren't it, they have to be placed just so on your temple to sound even remotely decent and there's not much stopping them from moving around.

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India makes headphones?

Anker Soundcore Life Q20i
vs
Sony WH-CH720N

which one is better and why?

hi, i live among fucking moronic animals screaming, shouting, laughing whose mouths never shut is there any sort of headphone with some noise cancellation technology perhaps that could isolate me from all this? i have literally never used headphones but confronting these idiots yield no results and i am tired of hearing their idiotic conversations day in and out, walls are fucking paper thin in my shithole

>>102921110
you forgot postex
>>102922502
>looking for something comfortable
well it's either comfy or planar

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so... how do you know the voltage output on a dac? new to all this

>>102925706
easiest option is buy <100 ohm headphones and any modern device will play them loud enough

>>102925718
Brb buying susvara.

>>102925718
the aeon 2 noire has 13 ohm impedance, can a psp or ps vita drive them?

>>102925755
Passive subwoofers have 2 Ohm impedance, apple dongle should handle them.

>>102925783
>bass le bad even though it makes your ass clench and rumble and your ears explode with vibrations
what headphones do you use then?
>inb4 bro if you want bass just buy the genelec subwoofer

>>102925124
What's their redeem policy?

>>102925706
idk multimeter or something
google the chip

>>102925706
spec sheet
reviews with measurements (e.g. https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/review-apple-vs-google-usb-c-headphone-adapters.5541/)

>>102925706
Check the measurements, if there are no measurements check the specs, if specs don't mention it check the chips that are used, if the chips aren't named then don't buy it. And you really should use the calculator, using just the voltage is the best case scenario, for lower impedance headphones(usually below 30Ohm) the amps won't be able to reach that voltage, they'll be power-limited. Moondrop para for example is NOT easy to drive, you will need a desktop amp.

>>102925857
>>102925867
many thanks, still learning about this stuff
>>102925869
i see, can the fiio q7 and q15 drive practically any headphone on the market? thanks in advance

>>102925940
is there a reason why you would want to get a portable amp? desktop amp are cheaper and definitely could drive most headphones
also unless you went out of your way to get a power hungry headphone, chances are a dongle is more than enough

>>102925994
>is there a reason why you would want to get a portable amp? desktop amp are cheaper and definitely could drive most headphones
traveling, also need to connect it to phone, harder to do that with something like a topping d90 iii unless i wanna sit in one place

>>102925718
ohms literally don't matter and don't tell you anything
sensitivity is much more important, you need to combine both but sensitivity is what matters much more
you are completely clueless

>>102926040
so what headphone are you using? because there's really only a handful of headphones that need that much power

>>102926114
dca stealth

>>102926090
Do you figure a guy buying apple dongle is gonna need to care about "voltage output" or "sensitivity"
You people are actually retarded

>>102926155
those 2 portable amp can run it easily, some dongles could too but would probably drain the battery of your phone too quickly

>>102926328
i see, thanks for the help

>>102925940
>>102926155
>can the fiio q7 and q15 drive practically any headphone on the market
yes
Fiio has quite exhaustive spec pages
you can calculate voltage from power as Voltage (Volt_RMS) = sqrt{ Power (Watt) * Impedance (Ohm) }
Stealth is 23 Ohm, so let's be conservative and use the 16 Ohm spec
Q15 is the weaker one and does 3.4 Vrms into 16 Ohm
Stealth needs 0.529 Vrms for 94 dB (https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/dan-clark-stealth-review-state-of-the-art-headphone.25920/)
so you'd get 94 dB + 20 * lg{ 3.4 Vrms / 0.529 Vrms } = 110 dB
which is plenty loud

>>102926223
...yes?
the apple dongle is underpowered, that's literally the only scenario where one would care for that stuff
what the fuck is your point?

https://youtu.be/2CPofM3a2GY
mdr m1 bros, we're eating good

>>102926401
cheers

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>>102926470
eh, doesnt beat the goat

>>102926649
buy an ad chinkshitter

>>102926751
imagine a world where instead of letting them roam free we did brain scans on 5y olds and euthanized them if they showed signs of schizophrenia

australia
$200-400
closed
trance, metal
sony wh-ch720n

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>>102926470
lol

>>102927214
provide data that shows ft1 has significantly less distortion now and you (might) have a point

Why do mutts seethe so hard whenever anything good comes out of China and happens to be better than mutt offerings? Why can't these subhumans accept their loss of hegemony gracefully instead of throwing tantrums and regurgitating their schizo delusions over it?

>the sony mdr 7520 were outlawed in europe since they were rated 24 ohms, 108dB/mW and up to 4000mW of peak power
>this meant they could potentially reach volumes up to 144 dB causing near instant hearing damage
wtf lol
https://www.audioasylum.com/cgi/t.mpl?f=head&m=1970

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>>102927354
>sony is mutt
I don't think it is

>>102927375
so it's like 1-2% more in the sub-bass region
and 0.1% less the rest of the graph
where is the problem?

>>102927358
That's exceptionally fucktarded

>>102927354
everything is made in china anyways so i don't understand the outrage.

>>102927511
its a schizo who got upset people asking for 150 ish dollar closed backs received many "how about fiio ft1" recs and their pattern recognition got triggered
I dont even know if fiio is chinese

>>102927379
You're thinking wrong.

>>102927538
>and their pattern recognition
his pattern recognition*
please don't feed the troons.

>>102927511
first of all, in the world of studio headphones that's straight up wrong
beyerdynamics are made in germany
sony are made in japan/thailand
sennheiser has a bunch of factories all around europe but none in china, pretty much all quality headphone brands are made somewhere that's not china
and second, when will you fuckers ever learn the difference between "made in china with european/american quality standards and engineering" versus "made in china and engineered in china to be as cheap as possible"?

>>102927586
assigning gender to an anon is pretty troonish of you

>>102927538
>I dont even know if fiio is chinese
so you don't even have a fucking clue of what you are talking about, thanks for confirming that

>>102927643
who gives a shit about where the po box owners reside?

>>102927638
There are no females on the internet, everyone is a he. Only troons use the phrase "assigning gender".

>>102927670
Now you made half the internet go through sex reassignment process.

>>102927638
kys tranny, go mutilate another pair of postex headphones

>>102927638
Rule 30, newfag.

>>102927701
Reassigning male to male?

>>102927623
>beyerdynamics are made in a client state of the US
>sony are made in a US vassal state/US colony
>sennheiser has a bunch of factories all around different US client states
Wow
>difference between "made in china with european/american quality standards and engineering"
So Fiio FT1 whoch you keep malding over?
>versus "made in china and engineered in china to be as cheap as possible"?
That is literally the modern western standard of engineering. Just look at the automotive industry. Cheap chink shit outperforming western shit which costs double the amount for the average consumer. Fucking luxury ALL MURRICAN FUKK YEAH cars with fuel racks made of plastic. Literally the same standards as what you think "cheap chinkshit" is. The idea that western products have higher quality of engineering is such a retarded, outdated meme it's really hilarious for the 5 seconds it takes you to realise mouthbreathers actually still believe it.

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>buy an ad
rent free

>>102927913
>So Fiio FT1 whoch you keep malding over?
what? it's literally a chinese company what the fuck are you talking about
>That is literally the modern western standard of engineering
we are talking about expensive professional audio gear here pal
and if a thing is made to be cheap, why would they make it in europe where it's way more expensive? it doesn't make any sense
buy an ad btw

>>102927354
>ok the headphones are nice but no replacement parts
WHY YOU HATE CHINESE
>i can't use the sbc because it won't run mainline kernels
KERNEL DEVELOPERS SO RACIST

Do the job or fuck off Chang.

>>102927623
sennheiser iem aren't made in china? i thought that was why they are the most common counterfeited iems

>>102927976
>literally a chinese company
That makes cans to the "glorious high standards of muh western engineers"
>we are talking about expensive professional audio gear
We are talking about your perceptions of western consumer product engineering which are dated by about 40 years.

>>102927939
the seething just makes me want a pair more honestly. if i can get them on leaf amazon eventually i definitely will.

>>102928032
I don't know about iems, if we want to nitpick random stuff they make, beyerdynamic also makes some made in china shitty bluetooth earbuds (free byrd)
I'm talking about their expensive over ear studio headphones here, this is /hpg/ after all

>>102928047
or you could get the seethe-pill and buy the glorious mdr m1 already
your choice

>>102928036
>That makes cans to the "glorious high standards of muh western engineers"
source? have these been out for long enough yet to prove they are as good as cans made in europe of equal sound quality that usually cost double? don't think so, by the time they are old enough to assess that they will have already released 20 newer models and you won't even find oem replacement pads for those ones lol
>We are talking about your perceptions of western consumer product engineering which are dated by about 40 years.
have everyone's brand new 7506's and dt 770's suddenly start falling apart in the last few years?
don't think so, again, you don't have any data
and all you are saying is just "chinese manufacturing is now better than eu/us manufacturing bro trust me"
and you of course completely dodged the question "why do they make expensive stuff in europe and america and cheap stuff in china if china is better at manufacturing according to you?"

>>102927623
>sennheiser has a bunch of factories all around europe but none in china
560s are chink made

>>102925579
Earfun Air Pro 4 is supposed to have good noise cancellation and they're pretty well priced if you want wireless earbuds. For over ear headphones, the Soundcore stuff is probably your best bet.

>>102928146
Because you are the "audiophile" equivalent of the kind of drooler willing to drop hundreds of thousands of dollars for an atomobile with a plastic engine simply because it says "made in the USA" insisting it's totally a higher mark of quality than "made in China". Plentry of reviews of the FT1 as well as specs are up by people who have a clean history reviewing all kinds of hardware from everywhere. Yet you're arguing here because winnie the pooh makes your hemorrhoids pop.

>>102928227
7506 and dt770 are both cheaper than the ft1, fucktard

Im not sure the shitposting has any value
everyone agrees the headphones sound fine, sony headphones are fine, dt770 doesnt have detachable cable and we should laugh at people who buy them.
However ft1 looks much better while sounding fine, it has large hybrid pads, its headband doesnt get sweaty

>>102928227
>Plentry of reviews of the FT1 as well as specs are up by people who have a clean history reviewing all kinds of hardware
what the fuck do these reviewers that just used them for 5 minutes know about long term build quality?
oh and guess what, you once again didn't reply to the fucking question

>noooo you can't be heckin racist
really nigga?

>>102928322
>looks much better
that's subjective, i think they look dogshit

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>>102928403
rly

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why were they forgotten so fast?

I'm really in the mood to buy them but hard to come by impressions from owners of it.

>>102928470
even more dogshit, does anyone actually like these? literal diarrhea color

>>102928470
You had to cherrypick the shittiest looking trim that isn't even in any of the promotional material? That's kinda sad.

>>102928525
>>102928534
ask your wife which one shed prefer to wear or look at you wearing

>>102928707
>/g/
>ask your wife
pick one
but yeah i think she wouldn't give a fuck if i had one
probably she would go like "ew, you still got wired headphones? and it has a cable for each side even? why didn't you just buy airpods max?"

>>102901829
Saw this guy at the conference im at wearing bluetooth focals
He gave me his linked in

just release the ft1 on amazon reeee

on year 5 with the same k240 studio, what a great purchase

>>102928322
>dt770 doesnt have detachable cable and we should laugh at people who buy them.
Why is this such a big deal to people? I use mine at a desk like they're meant to be used and the long cable is a plus.
You're not or shouldn't be buying DT770s to take them out and about, they're for the studio.

>>102929265
mdr m1 doesn't have this problem

>>102929596
I'm also part of the "I never had a problem with broken cables" crowd but
1. it's extra piece of mind
2. most of these studio headphones come with 3 meter long cables or some shit like that, and that's way too much for use at my desk, 1.2 meter is the sweet spot
having a detachable cable means i can just... get a shorter cable, and if in the future i need a longer one, pop the old one back in.
oh actually i had skipped over the "long cable is a plus" part... how?
how the fuck is a long cable a plus when sitting at your desk? doesn't make any sense
>You're not or shouldn't be buying DT770s to take them out and about, they're for the studio.
so what the fuck am i supposed to buy when all the wired headphones that are left are studio headphones? and who gives a fuck if they are "for the studio" if they just sound good (not the case with the 770's btw)

>>102925343
>>102901829
cmon bros, please

>>102928515
>why were they forgotten so fast?
the price.
$629 in canada and aeons are $729

>>102930254
we don't want to start another chinkshit vs snoy war
sorry

>>102912393
yeah I'm just curious if its a recolored Azurys with a $150 premium, or something else

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>>102929596
>they're for the studio.
A white man takes his headphones wherever he needs them. He ignores jewishdynamics and buys a white mans headphone that doesn't have this problem. A white man ignores redditor shills who say things such as "The connector in the cup usually breaks before the cable". The white man knows this was put into the goyims mouth through lies and propaganda.

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My Uliptz wireless Headphones have broken, literally the leather of the ear parts broke up, and then the foam around the phones is loose.
Any cheap recommendations better than this previous set? Especially anything that works better with using them upside down (to no get hair loss) or adjust the diadem to not touch the hair, and doesnt fall by gravity?

white men typically don't go on the internet and state that they're white anonymously.

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>>102930855
You glow in the dark. It would be a shame if terry a davis ran you over in his car

>>102930677
they're both chinkshit though?

>>102929900
>how the fuck is a long cable a plus when sitting at your desk? doesn't make any sense
If I'm wearing them while tracking guitar, a 1.5m cable it gets in the way of my arms and if I scoot back a bit or lean, the cable or headphone is getting yanked. When I have a long cable, I can route the cable so that it doesn't interfere with playing and I can move around in peace.
I also use my 770s hooked up to my electronic drum set, and with a short cable I have the same problem. If it's too short the cable will interfere with my playing, but when it's long I can route it behind me and have room to move around.
I agree that a detachable cable is preferable and I actually modded my 770s to have a detachable cable, but most of the time I'm still using a 3m cable because it works better for my use cases.

>>102931166
we've had this discussion already, buy an ad

>>102931402
sitting at your desk browsing 4chins and tracking guitar are two different things i'm pretty sure
if i don't need more than 1 meter of length for just sitting, having a longer cable means it becomes an annoying mess when i take the headphones off and leave em on the desk

>>102931434
If I'm sitting and typing, I still don't want the cable out in front of me getting in the way of arms. Having a long cable lets me run it behind my speakers to keep it in the perfect spot. When I'm done with em, I just put em on top of the speakers, never had an issue with a long cable becoming a mess.
The only time I want a short cable is if I'm using them with a phone.

What companies make noise cancelling headphones with good sound?

>>102931563
>Having a long cable lets me run it behind my speakers to keep it in the perfect spot.
see, here's your problem, you are using your headphone's cable to compensate for the fact that you were too retarded to buy a 3.5" extension cable and sticking the port somewhere more convenient
i got a 2 meter usb extension from my computer with an apple dongle plugged into it, i have it tied to my left speaker
if i were to use headphones with a 3 meter cable instead of a 1.2 meter one, where the fuck would i even put it when not in use, shit would be all over my desk
this also means you can unplug your headphones and use with your phone anytime btw... no extra cable required

>>102931696
I see your point, but that seems like more hassle than just having a long cable. I put my source where it's convenient and plug into it.
I also have multiple headphones for different uses and places, so connecting and disconnecting isn't a big concern of mine. My studio headphones stay in my studio and my work headphones stay at
work. For example, my HD600s stay in the living room and I got a shorter cable for them since I use em with my phone or laptop. If I was using one set all the time, I'd probably do as you say and keep extensions around.

>>102931405
I wasn't there, hit me with the headlines

>>102932089
enginereed in eu/us/jp and made in china: not chinkshit
engineered and made in china: chinkshit

>>102932117
so by this logic both the anker and the sony aren't chinkshit?

>>102932124
not op
anything made in china is chinkshit and not worth it if you care about longevity. Maybe it matters were they were designed but it doesn't stop the product from breaking for no reason within a short period of time. It's up to you if this is a concern or not for the money spent.

>>102932589
my sennheisers were made in chynah and have lasted a decade of daily use. just replaced the pads.

>>102930648
>>102928515
>$629 in canada
that's like 200USD
anyway, i'd buy them if they were like 2/3 of the price

>>102928515
same with the sony mdr-mv1, fiio ft5, they are pretty expensive while the edition xs got a price cut recently

correction, ft3 not 5

>>102922502
The LCD2/2-C calls to you-

>Comfortable

Nevermind. Skip the Planar requirement. Most are heavy. Go for a HD6xx/650. It's everything you're looking for.

>>102932972
Edition XS literally solved headphones with the price cut. There is no reason to go above it. There is nothing better that would blow it away.

>>102922502
How do headphones hurt your jaw? Do you have a tiny head? I don't understand.

>>102933337
I have Aryas and they do the same for me. The clamping force and shape of the pads causes discomfort. Dekoni's/ZMF pads are reported to improve upon comfort greatly, but I've never made the switch myself.

>>102910722
I have this setup but I always reach for the cloud2 because they are so damn comfy.

>>102933331
price/performance for the sound sure, the build quality is shit for something that cost that much

>>102927358
No way in hell anything but Audeze can produce 144dB. Shot themselves in the foot with fake specs trying to appeal to audiofools.

>>102933337
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temporomandibular_joint
they press on the nerves here. It's only uncomfortable at first but eventually gets painful

>>102922333
good. I'm currently unironically using airpods max at my PC and while I love listening to my eight hour video essays on the shitter I would prefer if I only had to deal with that shitty sound while I'm doing stuff outside.

nothing will ever beat bluetooth on the go, unfortunately. and bluetooth headphoens will never be good because audiojews have invested heavily into cables audiofools buy

>>102933704
>bluetooth headphoens will never be good because
I don't mind BT really, the convenience is great, but it sucks that all the over ear bluetooth headphones have gone all in on ANC, and many of them sound like crap when it's not turned on.

>>102927939
>>102928047
The beech version is way sexier

>>102933704
Take the bluetooth DAC/AMP + IEM/Headphonepill for bluetooth, anon. I've heard nothing but good things about the Qudelix 5k, and my BTR7 runs everything I have well.

>>102933704
>and bluetooth headphoens will never be good because audiojews have invested heavily into cables audiofools buy
why would they need to make any bt headphone good? Those retarded anc headphones from bose and sony sell like hotcakes and sound like absolute cancer @ $500cad. Same applies to fucking airpods.

so there's no good bluetooth headphones?

>>102933535
They didn't give you a distortion figure, they just said it wouldn't break.

>>102934434
No, only bluetooth dacs. If you want a bluetooth headphone, you can get one of those wireless adapters and THEN create some screwed up chimera by getting an adapter for that like an MMCX to 3.5mm adapter to use with Focal Clears, Ananda/Arya and so on.

>>102934434
Sennheiser Momentum 3

>>102935228
>Sennheiser Momentum 3
Not 4?

wait, so how much does an actual decent pair of headphones cost
and by decent I mean good

>>102935729
sennheiser hd 6xx is $179 USD.

>>102935729
>good sound
hifiman managed to do it at a low price, same with all those k240 clones (he400se, <100)
>good build
most studio cans around 100-200 can take a beating (sony, beyer, senn)

probably why people recommend takstar stuff, since they are cloning proven designs they can get the cost down

>>102933857
>>102933704
>>102934434
Lol wtf is it 2015? We're still pushing the BT quality meme? Just get any BT headphone capable of a half-decent codec (literally anything other than SBC), auto-EQ or manual EQ to Harman or whatever curve you prefer, and call it day. Yes there is compression, but no you cannot tell the difference in a blind ABX test. SBC is the only codec in which the bitrate and compression is drastic enough that a good number of people can tell. AAC at 320kbps, maybe if you have golden ears. Any other common modern codec, no.
The only other issue is potential dac hiss if you get a really shitty model, but even that is rare nowadays.

>>102935799
>>102935819
so why would someone get $500 pairs, let alone $1000+

>>102935841
looks, comfort, sound (they might sound good but they still have some flaws, but it's mainly subjective)

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>>102935841
Audiophoolery. That's literally it. If you don't believe me you can find an audio store near you that carries expensive gear and try them for yourself. That's what I did when I was still a noob, and it saved me thousands of dollars. Listened to multiple endgame grails like the Utopia, Susvara, Empyrean, etc. all hooked up to kilobuck DAC/Amps.

Long story short, my only headphones now are the Ksc75 with headband mod, and Ananda with a bit of EQ.

>>102935841
I have 6xx and Aeons. DCA aeons are better at everything and have better and more comfortable materials. Instead of an all plastic build they have a leather headband, with a nitinol support band, significantly more comfortable and imo durable pads. The sound signature is similar but even a layman could immediately tell the difference in audio quality. I would say the 6xx sounds more like a headphone but the aeons sound more like natural sound.

I didn't pay much more for my aeons than 6xx were so the increase in price wasn't a big deal for me. But everyone is different, some people have better or worse hearing, some people just don't care about the differences. It's kind of like any hobbyist niche really. Diminishing returns will always be there.

>>102935938
yeah I'm thinking about getting aeon closed X, cheapest I'm seeing it for is $400usd on ebay which is a decent amount more than $179

>>102936062
Always make sure to check locally as well. I'm always surprised to see what goofballs sell things for on fb marketplace.

>>102936071
looks like there's a pair up for $325 on there, just need to get an account

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>>102935841
there is massive diminishing returns past 200€
They can do things like driver matching (which doesnt even matter when your head is asymmetrical), 3d printed earcups that mitigate resonances, make the headphones look and feel nice aka not use the cheapest materials the mass produced chink factories use while driving costs down, hybrid/sheepskin pads over pleather

Then when you go from dynamic to planar or estat for better performance theres downsides, like the driver can crinkle or get destroyed by dust or hairs. The bass response can be shitty, they weigh more or you need 1k € amp to drive it.

Genelec recently made a headphone they sell with an amp for 2.3k €, they use dynamic driver for it and a selling point is creating your personal head related transfer function from making a video of your head on your phone. Apparently thats good enough for mixing music for them.

>>102935827
>battery dies 2 years later with constant daily use
>can't find a genuine replacement one
>buy a chinkshit one
>spend half an hour replacing it
>explodes on your head
no thanks
and also
>needs EQ to not sound complete cancer
lol

>>102934952
well apparently they say they also had very low distortion at high volumes so there's that

>>102934952
Distortion harmonics don't come out of nowhere, the main tone becomes quieter. Would the total sound energy scale with the power? Some would definitely be wasted as heat.

>>102930828
lmao balding

>>102934434
There are no good headphones in general.

>>102936178
On closedback DDs there's 15dB variation above 1kHz from the fit and the pad condition, whatever they're adjusting from the scan will be drowned in that variation. The real benefit of high end headphones is actually getting the response that you expect, hd800 and hifimans have the lowest variation. Otherwise you better get good at EQing by ear.

>>102936649
they should sell like tiny microphones you stick in your ear that listen to the headphone and adjusts the curve to be neutral

>>102932124
this shit again? are you the same fiio fag as before?
anker is literally a chinese company, sony is not, what the fuck are you talking about (part 2)

>>102933750
buy an ad

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>>102936984
>>102936986
what do you get out of these posts exactly
we cant describe you meds over the internet, sorry

>>102927358
Tyll measured only 99 dB/mW (115 dB/Vrms).
Meanwhile Campfire Fathom spec is 118 dB/mW (137 dB/Vrms) and nobody seems to care.

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>>102938172
forgot pic

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Pads are busted, are there any replacements that are not real leather nor PU available in Yurop?

>>102938172
Seems they're REEEEing about the combination of 106dB/mW sensitivity and maximum input power of 4W resulting in a theoretical maximum of 144dB, without understanding what those numbers actually mean in practice

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Ah, the first gen Beats
I remember these becoming popular when I was in school, particularly the Solos and Studios. They were built like shit but they were comfortable and definitely had a lot of booming bass for hiphop and dubstep. One of the things I remember someone saying about them was that they sounded like a car stereo. A few of the poorer kids from my class got actual knock offs from the local flea market just to be part of it. You also had the few contrairiens who were using the Street by 50 headphones that came out after.
I had the Vmoda M80s as my dailies at the time and my classmates gave me shit about them thinking they were off brand Beats.
I'll give it to Monster, they did a he'll of a marketing campaign. Even though they may have not been the best sounding headphones, it was probably what got a lot of people into being audiophiles eventually.

>>102928322
>dt770 doesnt have detachable cable and we should laugh at people who buy them
Complete non-issue. It's a 15 minute job and all you need is a replacement cable and a soldering iron. You should applaud all chads who purchase DT-770s. Beyerdynamics sells replaceable parts for nearly everything. The only thing I recommend is buying custom 3D printed hinges since they use a soft plastic. You can mod on a detachable cable if you so desire.

These German made headphones weren't intending for trannies to buy them.

>>102939703
is your time free?

>>102939680
Crazy to think they almost singlehandedly turned headphones into a fashion item. Everyone wearing airpods and Sony WH models now can trace the trend back to Beats

>>102939768
ok mr productivity man

>>102939889
do you also own the parts required for free
and the soldering kit for free
and the know how so you dont have to spend time researching
and the desire to wait for the parts to arrive and pay the transit fees

like for 99% of people its not worth it, they buy a pair that works out of the box
maybe they buy new pads, or a cable that works better, or some comfort thing for the headband but they dont start modding a 120€ heqadphone with shitty features

>>102936487
Yeah but they already told you it's under 4W, which isn't crazy.

>>102939977
Like I said, these headphones aren't for trannies. Go buy your pink cat ear headphones and shove them into your $3000 vacuum tube amp.

>>102939977
I already have a soldering iron because it's an extremely useful tool
Resoldering a wire to a driver does not require any additional parts
If I want to do a removable cable mod, I go to my local electronics store and pick up a fucking 3.5mm jack for a couple bucks, then solder that up in 20 minutes or so, and I Can use any normal fucking cable I want should the current one break

>>102939680
>it was probably what got a lot of people into being audiophiles eventually.
this is satire, right?
no one that ever bought beats ever gave a shit about sound quality

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got so desprate for search of new headphones after buying and refunding FIVE different moddels (3 had issues, 2 I didn't like) I just conceded and fixxed my old ones instead for just 2 bucks and a bit of soldering. This whole process took 4 months+

I hate headphones. I hate shit that breaks. The headphone market SUCKS. Everything SUCKS. It's overpriced grabage and sound like SHIT or is full of dogshit gimmicks that only make it annoying to use I FUCKING HATE THIS I FUCKING HATE THIS I FUCKING HATE THIS I FUCKING HATE THIS I FUCKING HATE THIS I FUCKING HATE THIS I FUCKING HATE THIS I FUCKING HATE THIS I FUCKING HATE THIS I FUCKING HATE THIS I FUCKING HATE THIS I FUCKING HATE THIS I FUCKING HATE THIS I FUCKING HATE THIS

anymeow I'm happy naow

>>102940814
are you autistic and hyper sensitive to discomfort in headphones or something

>>102940829
no they just sucked
like I wanted cableless one at first since I was tired of cables breaking so I got the
Sennheiser Momentum 4 Wireless Headphones which were ok but HOLY FUCK they turned themselves off all the time, didn't recognize when you put them down, shit app that did nothing special and felt awful but the fact that they turned themselves off while I was watching movies and gaming was just no go so refund.
Then
Beyerdynamic DT 770 PRO Over-Ear, had cable issues within a day and weren't that great on top of too long cable.

Shit like that

>>102940814
monitor market is considerably worse. literal hell. i'm going to be stuck with my old ass monitor until the internal psu breaks then i'll get that repaired. hopefully oled or some alternative is solved by the time this monitor is completely dead because holy fuck man, every monitor tech is fucking trash at the moment.

>>102941017
just buy used / refurbished? same for audio stuff

>>102940921
Yeah its actually pretty freeing to have decent wireless headphones, you lose that annoyance with wires and can move freely.
Maybe something like logitech would work better since some cs pros use those.

> DT 770 PRO Over-Ear, had cable issues within a day and weren't that great on top of too long cable.
Yeah, I owned a headphone with non detachable cable once. I don't own such things anymore for a reason.

>>102941035
i tried that and the panel was shit. i lucked out on this monitor having basically a perfect panel ages ago and now every other one i try is inferior compared to it. almost every modern monitor has flaws and shit QC. just depressing.

>>102940814
>buying and refunding FIVE different moddels (3 had issues, 2 I didn't like)
could you elaborate on that

>>102941087
maybe you just have a shitty tn panel and are nitpicky about ips glow
just stop being in a completely dark room with the brightness turned all the way up staring at a black wallpaper nigga

>>102941122
I got a VA so I dont have to cry myself to sleep about ips contrast or hope that one day burn in is solved.

>>102941151
enjoy your ghosting then

>>102941166
Theres no significant ghosting. Its not as good as ips on pixel response but not bad either.

>>102925343
>>102901829
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF A $70 SONY HEADSET IS BETTER OR WORSE THAN A $70 ANKER ONE. I DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT CHINA. FUCK ME DEAD

>>102941122
i bought what was supposed to be a newer model of the asus TN monitor i have and it looked like absolute trash. the colors and viewing angle were significantly worse even though it was just supposed to be the same damn monitor more or less just in a different casing. i bought what was supposed to be a good IPS monitor and it made my eyes bleed and looked like shit to me. my only hopes are VA or OLED or some other tech improving in the future.

>>102941185
just buy the sony

>>102941212
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