>Majority of people treat programming languages as cryptocurrencies, they want to "invest" in them, before they get big and "moonshot"
>>102904549Tsoding is a flaming zoomer
>>102904549No. They don't.
>>102904549Just learn a handful and use the right tool for the right job
>>102904549The majority of people learn popular languages. Only people with severe autism learn niche languages.
dead internet theory is personified in this thread.
>>102904549Who is that lady?
>>102904549There are two philosphonies.>Invest in a language because it will be here forever>Invest in a language because it's trendy and/or there are more jobs on it.Both are good but the first is better.
>>102904617How? if you want to see bots speaking to bots open any social media platform.
>>102904571He's a pretty great programmer though, so who cares.
>>102904674THIS. He was able to figure out Hare in two hours without documentation
>>102904674>He's a pretty great programmer thoughDuh, he is Russian, they are the masterrace of programming
this is a terminally online statementmost people just use python or JS
>>102904549Dumbest "take" I have seen.
>>102904549feels so good to have learnt C++ over 20 years ago. it was relevant then, it will be relevant long after I die. not all languages withstood the test of time.
>>102905394it's true. nerds love jumping on esoteric shit because they love being able to smugly talk down to someone who doesn't know everything they know and confuse knowing something obscure with being smart. they think there will suddenly be jobs popping up in some meme language they know and they'll be the only applicant>skip the queue, 300k starting, simple as ehehe
>>102904549Looks like he is two bad days away from trooning out
>>102904615I remember when I started my first job many years ago. I was at a social event with a bunch of other new grads in tech. I asked one of them where they stood on the rust vs go war. They said “I don’t know what either of those things are”, turned around and walked away. Nobody else knew wtf they were either. Room full of young driven fagmen
>>102904674>>102904684>>102904714>eceleb>good at programmingpick one
>>102904571he's like 34
>>102904615majority of people are only interested in Bitcoin and Ethereum as well (excluding the real majority that doesn't care about any of it).I think he's just pointing out that there is a vocal minority that is just obsessed by jumping to the hot new thing with that particular mindset. I bet ecelebs get spammed by them a lot.It's a pretty inconsequential statement and I don't get why I see one thread every day about it desu
>if i contribute while it's small i can set precedents and conventions that ruin it forever
can someone explain why there are a lot of tsoding threads recently?
>>102905315good morning sir
>>102906665Is there really a war between Rust and Go? They seem like they do different things well, like Java and C++. I'm not sure why they'd be fighting for market share.
Fuck Tsoding. I hate him so much.
>>102909466t. webdev
>>102909470i'm not a webdev you fucking ivanovshit
>>102909820>excuses
>>102904549>Tsodingget this nigger out of this board.
>>102909829keep dickriding ur beloved Tsoding lmfao.
>>102904549What did she mean by this?
>>102909839Oh xe is trans?
>>102909838Shoo-shoo, webdev.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRgLA8X5N_4
>>102904714>they are the masterrace of programmingnah, russians are faking anything just like the chinks did.
>>102909839kys moron. TSODING IS A STRAIGHT WHITE MALE NOT TRANS
pseuding
>>102904549Funny but that's the exact opposite of what happens. Usually people grok whatever is popular in their field and specifically in their area. The one exception is probably Rust and maybe Elixir, though the latter is more about leveraging an already well known ecosystem.
>>102909985>Usually people grok whatever is popular in their field and specifically in their area.He made exactly this observation not long ago; that programmers that enjoy programming don't choose a language, they start fucking around in whatever language their interest is in (e.g. kids that want to make Roblox mods or whatever will use Lua). Programmers that are just in it for a job will gravitate towards whatever is getting the most buzz at the moment.
>>102909850writing gui in C is an absolute waste of time. How could anyone do this for fun?
>>102909850writing gui in C is an absolute waste of time. How could anyone do this part for fun? What he proves here is his autism.t. raylib mobile game dev
>>102909313There is no war between Go and Rust.We Gotards are busy doing our own thing (writing the backends for the world's busiest platforms) while Rustroons are busy rewriting basic Unix utilities.
>>102911119>>102911146reminder to self to not phonepost with shithole cellular connection
>>102911146>writing gui in C is an absolute waste of time.ImGui is unironically one of the most productive GUI framework there is.
>>102911196That's C++
>>102909832Huh? Did somebody say "please make another Tsoding thread? on it!"
>>102911196calculating where every pixel should be drawn in raylib is very different than using imgui lol. He doesn’t use imgui in the video.>>102911362OP, please fucking stop with these eceleb threads so I don’t need to post in here.
>>102904549>picJesus, what species eve is that thing
>>102904549Reminder to the people in the thread to watch good programming youtubers like jdh, AngeTheGreat, Gingerbill and Andreas Kling over this narcissistic twitter midwit.Please recommend me similar youtubers I mentioned. People showing of their work, not live coding per se.
>>102911656>watching programming youtubers
>>102911689>replying to programming youtuber thread
>>102911656>please watch nonwhite (nonrussian) jewish youtubersNo.
>>102911748I bet you pay to post in his gay discord server. Go ahead and miss out on the good stuff.
>>102911761>the good stuff: raid shadow legends sponsorships, m$/apple shilling, tesla fsd two more weeks, India superpower 2030No thanks
>>102911788>raid shadow legends sponsorshipssponsorblock or smash right arrow>m$/apple shillingpeople using a productive operating system>tesla fsd two more weeks, India superpower 2030don't know what you're talking about and how this is relevant to the people mentioned
>>102911146Raylib code quality is pajeet tier. I will cut my balls before using it.
>>102912015>I will cut my ballstranny
>>102904549other tsoding thread got deleted. based jannies doing their job
>>102911146Writing UI in tcl/tk and doing the logic in C is pretty easy.
>>102912925Now try something more complex, like gtk
>>102904549WELCOME TO ANOTHER RECREATIONAL AZOZIN SESSIONTODAY WE ARE GOING TO BE USING $MEME_LANGUAGE>searches some shit up>too adhd to read the two sentences on screen that give the exact solutionBEELD SYSTEMS ARE TRASH WHY IS THIS SO HARD>explains basic programming conceptWOW THIS IS ACTUALLY PRETTY KOOL, DID YOU KNOW THAT'S HOW IT WORKS?>creates incomplete raylib bindings #4382592KAN YUR FUCK-EN WEB SHEISSE DO THAT??!1>dab dab 69 your mom xD
>>102916679>TODAY WE ARE GOING TO BE USING $MEME_LANGUAGEhis Hare video was the best
>>102904578I don't know about the majority, but a lot of people really do seem to think about them this way. After all, if you can get in on an up and coming language while it hasn't been fully established your job prospects will be a lot better, and while you're waiting for it to take off, shilling it CONSTANTLY is a great way to at least get people thinking about it. And if you can pump the language user base full of political sacred cows, then its critics constantly have to defend themselves against accusations of being an anti discrimination liability!
Tsneeding is kinda based. He might be a little bit ADHD but he's also Russian and loves programming. I admire his passion.
>>102908715russians bypass the rules like they always do
>>102911245NTA, but nuklear is basically the a C version of imgui but better
>>102916679Kek
>>102904549says the guy who uses a new language every other week
>>102916679This is why he's based.
>>102911656>jdhhe shows nothing in his videosBen Eater and Sebastian Lague are worth to watch
it's true, and it's also true of libraries, text editors and other tools. most people reject things that aren't hyped or already popular.
>>102909313rust was originally a lot more similar to go, and they were in early development around the same time, so some people viewed them as competitors. somehow a rivalry still persists, even though no one remembers why.
>>102923807Well Go is a simple and fast language for web servers, but at some point your site will get a lot of traffic and upgrade is needed, so the question will arise: should you optimize existing Go code or write it in Rust (non GC language) to improve the performance. So in that way, they are competitors. But writing good Rust code is exceptionally hard as the compiler will often force you to use Arc<Rc<X>> which is basically just a much slower garbage collector. To get around this, you often need to rewrite huge chunks of code. You could very well run out of money/dev time and end up with a worse program in Rust than Go. But if you do it right, it can be faster. That is where the rivalry comes from
>>102923828you're firmly in the camp of "no one remembers why"
>>102909313It’s entirely on the Rust side, since they have a fixation on being "the" memory safe language and thus view Go as a threat because it’s "the other" memory safe languageGo developers, meanwhile, don’t base their industry knowledge off the front page of Orange Reddit and know that there’s dozens of memory safe languages so they just go about pushing code into production instead
>>102923937Go is not "memory safe". And go is not a rust's competitor, it is a garbage collected language with a java-tier performance.
>>102924065https://readwrite.com/the-nsa-list-of-memory-safe-programming-languages-has-been-updated/>GoFirst on the list
>>102924065you need to stop being retarded
>>102924097>dereferencing null pointersNot my problem>SegfaultsNot my problem>Data racesNot my problem
>>102924141You need to kys, gotard
>>102924186let's see rust's channel ops that make race conditions impossible
>>102924225Race conditions are solved by atomics, retard
>>102924271amazing. now let's see your concurrent code.
>>102924475async fn main() { await tokio::write_async(os::stdin, "hello, world!\n").unwarp();}
async fn main() { await tokio::write_async(os::stdin, "hello, world!\n").unwarp();}
faggot eceleb thread
>>102924496gosh
>>102924565>seethes against chadinggay