>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use cases.State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC>CPUWeb browsing: 5600GGaming: 12400F, 7600X, 7800X3DWorkstation: 7900X, 9950X, Ultra 7 265k, Ultra 9 285kAVOID: Intel 13/14 series. If you using, make sure latest microcode is installed>COOLERAIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge/Arctic Liquid Freezer III, Hyte THICC Q60Double towers: ID-Cooling FROZN A620 PRO SE, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67>MOTHERBOARDAMD:ASRock B650M-HDV/M2, B650 LiveMixer, B650 Steel LegendIntel: Most Z series boards are acceptable or better>RAMDDR4: 2x16GB 3200CL16. Budget, 2x8GBDDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30Workstation/high end: consider 2x48GB>SSD (OS drive)Budget: SN580Mid range: NM790Premium: Samsung 990 Pro (Windows only), SN850XFlagship: Sabrent Rocket 5>GPU1080p: RTX 4070 Super, RX 7700 XT1440p: RTX 4070 Ti Super, RX 7900 GRE2160p: RTX 4090, RTX 4080 Super, RX 7900 XTXWorkstation: RTX 4000 Series, AVOID: AMD cards>CASE (from $ to $$$)mATX: Montech Air 100, Lian Li A3, Asus Prime AP201, Lian Li O11 Air MiniATX: Phanteks XT PRO(ULTRA), Montech AIR 903 Base/MAX, Antec C5, Lian Li Lancool 216/IIIAVOID: 'Silent' cases, fanless cases>PSUBudget: Gold rated 500-600W PSUMid range: ATX 3.0 compliant fully modular gold rated PSU @ 75% max loadHigh end: Seasonic PRIME TXAVOID: GAMEMAXPSU buying guide:https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/ (updated Q3 2024)>MONITOR1080p: KOORUI 24E3, MSI G2412F, MSI MAG 256F, MSI G244PF E21440p: ASRock PG27QFT2A, Dell G2724D4K: Acer Nitro XV275K, Gigabyte M32U, Dell Alienware AW3225QF>OSActivate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fansHigh end: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)Previous:>>102978277
>notice GPU is running hot>too lazy to repaste>lower temp limit by 10C and power limit by 20%>barely lose 5% performance
>>102983816are you going to actually play with timings? Zen 5 is identical to Zen 4 in terms of memory compat
>>102983847Could also undervolt and open the side of your case.>PerfCap reason: None
Why is XG2431 not recommended?
>>102983867Can't I just buy 8200mt ram and turn on expo and call it a day?If I have to play with timings I'm willing to learn and do it but idk how yet
>>102983973Consoomers here only care about the latest games and those don't run at 240FPS even on a 4090.
>>102983973will be added ~396 posts from now
>>102984033240 hz is a ridiculous meme it's supposed to be 120hz BFI you fucking retard
>>102983947>mfw my old 1080Ti used to idle at like 50C
1080p master race
>>102984002Zen typically like the speed to be divisible by the clock of the fabric and the IMC on Zen 4/5 struggles to go past 6000/6400. you can get higher but often it will mean running in 2:1 mode which is slower. the easy solution if you're not memory tuning is 6000CL30.
Windows no longer detects the built-in speakers of my monitor after I upgraded my RX 570 to an 6600 XT. they were working fine with the RX 570. my brother, who built this PC for me, said it wasn’t necessary to use DDU and just told me to reinstall the drivers. the graphics card is working perfectly. any idea what could be causing this?
stop me
>>102984185just use DDU first and see what happens. why skip a normal step in the diag process
>>102984192looks very expensive for just an mitx box
>>102984203I have a job
>>102984103Oh if it depends on clock speed of the CPU I guess I have to wait and ask about this again when we know for sure what the specs of the 9800x3d (or other high end X3D) are, right?
>>102984216just buy it lel anon. I have a job too, I'm just thinking there are better case options at that price
>>102984185What connection type (DP/HDMI) are you using now and what did you use before?
>>102984239I'm looking for an ITX case that looks like a black box. No frills. It also needs to be really small. T1 seems to fit the bill.In the past I've had a SG13 and a N200.
>>102984238it's the clock of the memory controller on the CPU, not the CPUs clock speed, two very different things. just get 6000CL30 set and forget. you're not losing much if any performance
>>102984216Buying things that are overpriced is both gay and philosemitic, it's not a question of being able to afford them.
>>102984090Idle is usually warm because the fans shut off.
>>102984277recc me an itx case then
>>102984318hyte revolt 3 . fractal terranot that anon. just throwing recs out
>>102984240I'm using a standard HDMI cable now, and I was also using HDMI before>>102984195I just followed his advice since he bought the GPU for me. but yeah, no harm in trying DDU—I’ll give it a go today
>>102983784where is the thread subject you fucking retard
>>102984440i ate it
>>102984440i forgot to put it in. Make it yourself next time or go bitch and moan somewhere else
What's a good upgrade for my rx 6600? I plan to give this gpu to my kid since he mostly plays Sonic Slop and Minecraft, but I first wanted to test it because of a previous bad experience with a rx 5500 that I had to return.
>>102984571Used 1080 Ti.
>>102984273Then I'll probably go for 6000cl30 then.But is there any website that tests these things where I can see what kind of memory specs best go with the specific cpu I'm planning on getting?
>>102983784so we're posting speccy screenshots today?
>>102984998>26-25-25-58what the fuck are those timingsdid you enable XMP?
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-Ultra-285K-already-sold-out-retailers-expecting-re-stock-this-weekend.908536.0.html>arrow lake fail--
>>102985012apparently, no. quick enough fix. only my second time assembling a pc, not exactly used to faffing about in the bios
>>102984769not for if you're not overclocking, just read reviews as most will test at manufacturer recommended speed
>>102985092285k was a paper launch>ask me how I know
>>102985133>>102985012ok, task manager is now reporting it as being a lot less than 3600 with the XMP on, probably had it set up fine without a profile
>>102985237fuck it, faffed about more in the bios, now both the xmp is on and task manager is reporting 3600 MHz
>>102985237>>102985315do you have 3600 MHz sticks? are they mismatched sticks? 3600CL26 is not fineit should be more like 3600CL16-3600CL18
I just had a suspicion about my ram being faulty and just when I was testing some stuff my PC just turns off and warns me of high CPU temps. So well. I guess my issue wasn't the RAM.Could be an issue with my pump since the fans are working but the pump doesn't make any weird noises. So what is the recommended software to check my hardware temps while running? Before I set this PC up I used Speccy but that shit is completely fucked for me now and the temps are completely unreliable.MSI motherboard and AMD Ryz 5800X3dJust curious if there is something recomended over Speccy for monitoring otherwise I'll just run it again since at least it will tell me if temps go up or down. When I search around the web the masses seems to be shouting to go MSI afterburner but speccy seems to be the choice here. So which is it?
>>102985470https://www.hwinfo.comafterburner is for getting an overlay while you're in game
looking to upgrade to the new 9000 x3ds coming in a few weeks; this is what ive cooked upi have no knowledge of anything liquid cooling or good cases, are these good options? my current cooler is a 15 year old noctua nh-d15 and its so beat and its fins are all bentmotherboard? there seems to be a shit load of am5 chipsets, but this seems like the only board with 6E and a shit load of usb-c back io which is kind of importantram is for byod work (android studio saar)
Is it true the 5000 series gpus are coming out early next year? Should I just wait then before I buy a nvidia gpu because I decided I wanted to get an nvidia gpu.
>>102985535nh-d15 is fine. And yeah "good" am5 boards are kinda sparse as far as the feature set/io is concerned, but there are decent options in the x chipsets . i would check the gigabyte offerings
>>102985535it's only the 9800X3D being released this year
>>102983784why won't nvidia make mid tier gpus with buses that don't suck
>>102985611is that it's best offering? i currently have a 10900k and have always been intel, but the benchmarks for AMD are all over the place, the 7800 x3d seems to be the best performed, outperforming the more expensive 7900 and 7950 x3ds
How would one start with looking to build a 'silent' setup? My current PC is loud as fuck, even audible over ANC headphones. Could you get a high performance/flagship PC that runs near silent at all?
I'm looking at 1600W PSUs for a dual gpu setup. Most are 210mm long.TG P3 Pro says that 200mm is the maximum. Why? Are they just being conservative because they expect you to have a pump on the right? Seems like a 210mm psu would fit just fine.
>>102985675just turn your fans down
>>102985485Aah yes. It goes up to 90+C as soon as I start baldurs gate 3, idles at 55C and goes up to 60+C when I open discord.
>>102985924get a new cooler jeeze
>>102985675>>102985754 ThisUse Fan Controlhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDPKVKBMQU8
>>102985946Yeah it's over, my cooler is cooked.Ok bros what is my next cooler. MSI B550-A PRO motherboardAMD Ryzen 7 5800X3Dand how worried do I have to be about the CPU having taken damage after a forced shutdown automatic shutdown due to overheating warnings? Is there a way to check with HWiNFO or something else? Think I am smelling some fried eggs in here.
>>102984440>>102984461>>102984484You're not funny or cute, you butt hurt silly boys!
>>102986021im not trying to be funny. anon was just being mean over a minor mistake
>>102985995>Yeah it's over, my cooler is cooked.How old is that AIO (is it still warrantied?) Did you have the pump positioned higher than the rad (this is a no-no as it can trap air bubbles in the loop which puts extra strain on the pump motor)?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbGomv195skSometimes also the AIOs don't get their coolant treated at the factory before filling the loop which lets algae/corrosion gunk grow inside and then accumulate in the microfins in the cold plate damming up the flow of coolant like this (MSI did a recall a few years back on some models that fell victim to this):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL9J9XOzvqk>and how worried do I have to be about the CPU having taken damage after a forced shutdown automatic shutdown due to overheating warnings? Is there a way to check with HWiNFO or something else? Think I am smelling some fried eggs in here.Your PC was shutting down because it tripped thermal protection sensors to keep the CPU FROM getting cooked. Since you can still POST and get to the desktop it's fine.>Ok bros what is my next cooler.Just disregard water and embrace reliable cheap AIR (best dual-tower for the price ATM):https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zkWJ7P/thermalright-phantom-spirit-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-ps120https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/thermalright-phantom-spirit-120-reviewIf you must get another AIO, the Frozen Prism is the best deal ATM:https://pcpartpicker.com/product/99XV3C/thermalright-frozen-prism-704-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-frozen-prism-360-blackhttps://gamersnexus.net/coolers/thermalright-strikes-again-5690-360mm-liquid-cooler-frozen-prism-reviewI'd rather you fix or RMA your current cooler though first.
>>102985995I don't get it. I am touching the pump hub and I can clearly feel it pumping. I can clearly feel the tubes transfer heat and the fans are clearly blasting. The radiator however is kinda chill and the air over it is barely warm despite the cpu supposedly running at 90C.
>>102985995>and how worried do I have to be about the CPU having taken damage after a forced shutdown automatic shutdown due to overheating warningsi accidentally ran my 6800 XT at 115 C oncestill works finedon't worry about it, it shut down for a reason
>>102986156gpus are more robust when it comes to heat than CPUs
>>102986162mehi can believe that for the 5800X3D (the 3D cache is sensitive) but it should also have a lower thermal shutdown temperature
>>102986129>How old is that AIO (is it still warrantied?)It's 2 years and a month or two I will check the warrant. >Did you have the pump positioned higher than the radNo I heard about this before I built it.>Just disregard water and embrace reliable cheap AIRYeah I will look into it. I might sell off some of the parts and upgrade around this blackfriday. Would you say that AIR is still sufficient to cool the newer 3DXs?
>>102986179>It's 2 years and a month or two I will check the warrant.Hmm, yeah definitely RMA time. AIOs even with coolant permeability should last 5-7 years and are warrantied for at least 3.What model is it?>Yeah I will look into it. I might sell off some of the parts and upgrade around this blackfriday. Would you say that AIR is still sufficient to cool the newer 3DXs?Modern chips typically try to boost as much as possible until they hit TJMax (95C on AM4/5) regardless of cooler, but the 7800X3D for example only gets to 75C under load with a NH-D15 G1 which the TR Phantom Spirit is much superior to, and only 70C in games.https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-ultra-9-285k/28.htmlThe new 9800X3D when it launches is expected to either be cooler or the same temp with higher clocks as AMD is flipping the die upside down to bring hot CCDs closer to the IHS and bury the Vcache at the bottom later of the substrate sandwhich:https://www.techpowerup.com/328160/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-has-the-ccd-on-top-of-the-3d-v-cache-die-not-under-it
>>102986307Lian Li Galahad 360
>>102986307>>102986325What fucks me up is that the tube carrying heat away from the CPU is clearly getting very hot so a lot of heat is obviously getting carried away from the CPU. Likewise the tube carrying cooled liquid back into the CPU is cold to the touch.Is there a way to check if the pump is spinning properly?
never mind the lack of GPU, had to send it in for RMA
>>102986382The pump could be gunked up.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4-XA2cnca4
>>102986536What was the GPU?
>>102986307Seems like the pump is working too and there is no way that thermalpaste could make this much of a stink and there should not be any alignment memes going on either. I am making uneducated guesses here but I assume that something must have clogged where the coolant enters the radiator? It's the only way I can imagine it heating up this extremely and quickly while still still having the tube leading off the CPU being this hot while essentially not feeling any heat coming off the radiator. I guess I am taking it out first thing tomorrow morning and checking if I can get a new one out. How long does RMAing parts usually take? Never done it before.
>>1029865504070ti Super Tuf White
>>102986382>>102986563What >>102986540 saidWhen idling, what does HWMonitor say the temps are? Might be worth repaste/remounting just to see that magically fixes it (I sorta doubt it though).>I guess I am taking it out first thing tomorrow morning and checking if I can get a new one out. How long does RMAing parts usually take? Never done it before.Should only be a few days, make sure to request they cross-ship you a replacement so aren't waiting for them to receive the borked one first before sending you a fixed one (sometimes they do a CC deposit to insure this which gets refunded back to you after they get the bad unit).
>>102985373>do you have 3600 MHz sticksyes, and not mismatched. same brand, same model, I'm just not used to this. after figuring out what things in the bios to adjust, everything is coming out as it's supposed to be (CL18-22-22-42)
I hope to god Intel isn't so stupid that they would launch Battlemage around the same time the RTX 5000 series launches. We still don't have a formal announcement after all this time.
>>102986638that looks sensibleyou should normally only need to adjust one option in the bios, probably called DOCP I or DOCP II on your board
>>102986644>I hope to god Intel isn't so stupid that
>>102986644It's not gonna do anything anyway. They need at least one or two generations in the oven.
>>102986617I let it sit since my last post with nothing but HWiNFO running and it got down to 41C at the lowest. As soon as I touched anything though it jumped to 51C. I'll get some thermal paste and re mount it tomorrow and see if anything changes. If not then I'll just have to RMA it. I just hope the AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D hasn't been damaged now after having my PC emergency shut down on me and reached warning temps like 3 times now+ probably sitting at 90+C for how ever long before I knew about it.
Looking to buy a desktop PC soon, I have my eye on getting a 7900 XT or XTXAnd I have a very old PC I haven't used in like 6 years that has a GTX 1050 TiMy question is, do I just try and sell that GPU (Was thinking for about 80-100 dlls, don't know what would be a good price) or is there any benefit on keeping it? I've seen stuff about double GPUs and whatnot but I don't even think it would do anything, not just for gaming, or it if would even work since Nvidia/Amd mismatch or something.
>>102986888>1050Pretty much e-waste.
>tfw almost done with my build just need the graphics card and the monitor
>>102986888bro just look on ebay or something before asking questions about sellingTheres always someone out there buying old cards for collecting or other purposes
>>102986809>I let it sit since my last post with nothing but HWiNFO running and it got down to 41C at the lowest. As soon as I touched anything though it jumped to 51C. I'll get some thermal paste and re mount it tomorrow and see if anything changes. If not then I'll just have to RMA it.Alright, go ahead and pull your Amazon invoice, etc. in case you need it to RMA.>I just hope the AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D hasn't been damaged now after having my PC emergency shut down on me and reached warning temps like 3 times now+ probably sitting at 90+C for how ever long before I knew about it.I can almost guarantee you the CPU is fine.
>>102986644Battlemage will launch after both nvidia and AMD
>>102983784
>>102987715waht
>just found out Intel's "tiles" can only be used on their desktop CPUsWhy? Isn't the whole point of chiplets, sorry "tiles", that you can reuse the same parts across all your products and therefore save money and time.
>>102987932well they plan to junk the node in a year anyway right?technically these tiles are already based on their mobile stuff iirc
>>102988010>Canceled Desktop Meteor Lake>Regressions in Arrow Lake>Canceling Royal Core & Beast Lake>Farming out fabbing to TSMC for a single genPat really meant it when he said he's betting the company on 18A, huh? Nova Lake is gonna make or break the company.https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/intel-panther-lake-will-allegedly-reintegrate-the-memory-controller-into-the-compute-tile-nova-lake-is-expected-to-separate-the-two-again-with-added-optimizations
>>102988097im sure theyll figure it out.
>>102988097There's rumors too according to MLiD, who is less than stellar, that Intel plans on cancelling Celestal if Battlemage bombs.Which frankly could happen with how slow its taking Battlemage to come out.
>>102986809Make sure you installed the bracket correctly. Check the cooler box/instructions and see if you forgot to install mounting offsets.Ryzen chips have the ccds placed way below the center of the IHS. If your cooler isn’t seated accordingly, you’ll get crazy temperatures swings and cooling problems.My 7950x3d was failing to be cooled by my NHD-15 until I read the instructions and reinstalled the cooler with a 7mm offset. Literally 40c reduction in temps after I did this.
>>102986888Just keep it anon. It’s probably not worth the hassle to sell, plus if your 7900xt breaks, you’ll have a backup card
>>102988201>spending extra for rgb but turning it off after a weekwhat is this phenomenon called
https://www.newegg.com/acer-xv273k-v3bmiiprx-27-uhd-160-hz-nitro-ips-black/p/N82E16824011500Sale for a 27" 4K @160Hz IPS for $280 (ends in an hour) if anyone already had one in their wishlist and/or don't want to go full-OLED yet.
Should I trade my gaming setup for a gaming laptop. My current setup Intel i5 13600KF processor AMD Radeon RX 7800 XT GPU 32 GB DD4 RAM1TB SSD 750W power Fractal Meshify case Windows 11 Pro With a G2724D gaming monitor from Dell And the laptop im trading it for is a Lenovo Legion 5i Pro .Specifications:Processor: Intel Core i7-13700HX (13th Gen)Graphics Card: NVIDIA RTX 4060RAM: 32 gigs of RAMStorage: 1TB SSD storageDisplay: 240Hz refresh rate for smooth visualsKeyboard: 4 zone rgb backlit keyboardWarranty: Premium Care subscription active until January 2026 for peace of mindThe reason I’m trading is because I don’t game much anymore and I’m moving interstate and need something more portable just wanted to know if it’s worth it. I also have put this gaming PC up to sell for months now and no one is coming to buy it.
if you're building a computer and your goal is games here's the buildyou want AM4, 5800x3d and ddr4 ramyou're wasting money if this isn't your template
>>102988545>5800x3d instead of 5700x3dwe both know who's the real money waster
Are the gray scratches on the Zen4 some oxidation because it's old or is it just some optical bamboozle?
>>102989444those are probably micro scratches from the lapping process at the factory
