is it ok to install a beta Bios? Ive heard it does more harm than good considering its like the testing phase for certain features when the actual BIOS update drops

>>102986222
do you have a good reason for it?

Is there a monitor tier list?

I'm in the market for a new PC. My current one is about 10 years old and I don't know what passes for good specs these days. I'm looking to spend around $1200. I mostly use my computer for web browsing but I occasionally use it for gaming and CAD work. A frustration I have with my current computer is that it isn't able to build Android but it's also just slower than I would like in general. Any suggestions?

>>102986222
The only reason to do so is for a fix in the release notes that directly impacts you. Otherwise, don't bother because it can be unstable elsewhere.

>>102986009
> 4.13L
Unleaded gasoline per hour? minute? second?

>>102986620
Liters as in volume.

>>102986009
2x32GB makes no sense for workstation/high end. How would I upgrade from this if I ever felt the need? And I certainly will, sooner or later, as I know from experience. So if I also populate the other two DIMM slots I cripple my RAM speed and if I only replace the 2x32GB with 2x48GB I waste more money than buying the latter kit right now (which is what I'll be doing since 2x32GB is not that much less anyway atm).

>>102986633
About the felt volume of my 4090 alone. What sense does knowing the volume make without also knowing the performance? Does it even boot? Or is it a mock-up? Or an AI image?

>>102986222
i wouldn't unless something isn't working right or vulnerable

Youre all probably tired of this question but

5600g, what GPU to get, highest I can go, nvidia and amd side

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>>102986009
>how its advertised vs how i built it

>>102986873
>5600g
isn't that an apu? it must suck being a poor

1660S for $80 vs 2060 for $125 for a budget build. Which one, /g/? I will say that it's my first proper gaming PC because I've been a poorfag all my life. On benchmark sites the 1660S is only slightly behind the 2060, but people are mentioning some extra features of the latter like DLSS and RT, which I wonder how much would matter for someone that will seldom play games, but would like a lasting build.

>>102987169
6600xt for 140 on ebay

>>102987169
you wont do any "real" RT with a 2060 lol

How hard is it to cool a 5700x3d? I want to make a mini itx build with it. If I use a low profile cooler, even something like the NH-C14S, would that be sufficient or would it be hot and loud?

>>102987169
a 2060 won't do RT or be a lasting build taking new releases into consideration

what is a good 2X32gb kit for a 5950x on x570

>>102986620
Without other context, the most common use of #L is designating the number of Liters something occupies, so you should assume such by default.

>>102986860
>What sense does knowing the volume make without also knowing the performance?
You do know the performance. Its a screenshot from a video where someone builds a system and tries out some games & benchmarks.
>Does it even boot?
Yes
>Or is it a mock-up?
No
>Or an AI image?
No

>>102987187
Mine maxes at 71c on Cinebench with some cheap unbranded single fan 120mm tower from Aliexpress.

>>102987255
oh and 83W max power draw doing so

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>>102986934
Not really, I used it for work and some Jenshin, Im jumping fully to PC coz my ps5 died.

>>102987177
Thanks, good option too.

>>102987183
>wont do any "real" RT with
>>102987213
>won't do RT
Well fug, then it's probably either a 6600xt if I can find one locally or the 1660S.

>>102987169
Can you please explain your use case better? You’re not going to be doing any RT on a 2060 and DLSS Quality looks like dogshit at 1080p too. You also won’t have a lasting build with either GPU if you play any current releases.

>Gamersnexus called it Error-lake
LOLLOL

>>102987321
>Can you please explain your use case better?
Just infrequent gaming. Nothing heavy. Like I said I don't really know much about this stuff, I'm fine with 1080p or even 720p, which I'm sure both cards can handle well except for current releases which I will most likely not play. I haven't played anything since the xbox 360 days.

>You also won’t have a lasting build
Sure, I should have said "as long lasting as possible" instead, my bad. If I could afford it I'd go as high as my budget allows but alas it is what it is.

>>102987373
video was so low effort
265k video
>talks about 285k for half of it
admits that it perfomes way better with recommended RAM
>doesn't use it

I see why people call him drama man

>>102987377
6600XT or the 1660S I think. My wife has a 1660S in her desktop she uses to play older games on and it works really well.

>>102987169
If you are employed...
Just get a 4060 or 6650 XT.
Maybe you might find a 6600 XT on facebook marketplace for a amazing price, but the nice thing about new hardware is that you get a return policy and warranty.
You get 2x the fps compared to a 2060 or 1660s, which means the longevity of the GPU is great.
I will admit a used 1660 super / ti has great value for $80, but you also get what you pay for. You save $200, but those $200 would give you the most significant difference in FPS.
Reminder that the 4070 and 6800 XT is only a 50% fps improvement over the 4060 or 6650 XT.
>This benchmark shows the 4070 / 6800xt giving 2x fps
this is valid but the graphics settings will give a huge difference. High graphics settings will give 2x more fps for the better GPU's, but if you lower you settings to "high" and use 1080p, it's more like 1.5x, while with max graphic settings on 1440p even the 4070 / 7800 xt only gives 80fps which is way better than 40fps on the 4060 / 6650 XT, but it's not a realistic setting to use for someone with a 144fps+ monitor (in my opinion, I like fps more than graphics).

>>102987384
the thing is the recommended ram is like double the cost of the CPU so its dumb

>>102986865
was there not a AMD cpu vulnerability recently? or was it a flase alarm

>>102987401
Vulnerability that required hardware access that was fixed in a Windows update.

>>102987384
>buy RAM more expensive than the CPU to make the CPU not be dogshit
lol

>>102987400
you dont need cudimms to run the 8400MTs standard hynix m die will do that fine. you start to need the expensive cudimms for 9200MTs +

>>102987373
>Me? I call him dramanexus

anons, here's the pc build I plan to get in the following weeks. I'd like to hear some thoughts, if it can be optimized.

https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/P6bryg

country: france

partpicker in france is only has a few websites, so it's still possible for me to find some of these parts a bit cheaper

I mainly plan on emulation, but I also want to play the latest games in 1440p. I will only use this pc for gaming and I couldnt care less about dlss, rt, etc.

I'd also like to keep the build as cool as possible with low thermals, hence the arctic freezer and 7600 over 7600X . Will arctic freezer cool my 7600 better than the peerless assassin?

I'd like to keep the build for 5-7 years, maybe upgrade to whatever 3D when it gets cheaper

I really wanted a 7800x3D but nowadays the market is just awful so I guess I'll stick with 7600 for the time being

>>102987384
>>102987467
>NOOOO HE'S BULLYING TRILLION DOLLAR COMPANIES NOOOOOO

>>102986860
Upgrade to 2x64gb in a year

>>102987475
meh its more annoying that random people watch his videos and believe they're magically all knowledgeable on tech. it makes my IRL job a pain in the ass

>>102987384
We watch him for the drama
His reviews have been pretty poor for years because of his bad selection of a handful of outdated games

>>102987473
The Liquid Freezer 3 is way overkill for a 65W CPU, hell even the Peerless Assassin would be overkill for it.
A 750W PSU would be enough, look at the estimated wattage at the top right.
You can probably find a cheaper Asrock b650 board.
The Powercolor Fighter 7900 GRE should perform the same as the Hellhound while being a little cheaper.
It looks pretty good otherwise.

i have to build a new pc from scratch with the exception of the GPU and PSU
is it worth just to wait for black friday?
>RTX 9700X
>a good MOBO
>64GB of RAM
>NZXT H6 Flow
>/CPU cooler

>>102987516
Thanks anon, well like I said I want to keep temps as low as possible. In the summer it can get pretty hot and we have no AC in France lol

Here's the updated version:

https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/RPB9jH

The asrock is actually the cheapest on Amazon

>>102987548
Looks good, check if you can find the ASRock PG27QFT1B or Dell G2724D in your region, they're a bit better than that Asus monitor.

>>102987574
Dell is 30 more expensive. I'm pretty sure it was a bit cheaper a few days ago. I'll probably pick this one because I like the screen mobility and support

The asrock screen comes at around 20 more, but I'm not sure about the support? Looks goofy to me lol

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>>102987545
>RTX 9700X

Walmart discounted the PNY XLR8 4070 (regular) to $500.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JW3NnQ/pny-xlr8-gaming-verto-epic-x-rgb-geforce-rtx-4070-12-gb-video-card-vcg407012tfxxpb1

That's probably about as low as it'll go.

>>102987545
Not really. If you spot any great deals atm, pounce on it.
Some stores will start to offer Black Friday price protection.

>>102987654
for 20 dollars more you can get a GRE that can beat a 4070 super.

>>102987631
meant to say Ryzen 7

What's the highest tier card I can fit inside my XPG Valor Mesh? I wanna upgrade my old RX 6600 for something better suited to play MH Wilds.

>>102987809
https://www.xpg.com/en/xpg/pc-component-valor-mesh-compact-mid-tower-chassis?tab=spec
>Clearance
>Graphic Card Length Limitation: 335mm
>305mm (with pre-installed fans)
>CPU Cooler Height Limitation: 166mm

Probably safe to pick a card that's under 300mm in length and 140ish in width.

Looks like Gigabyte Eagle/Windforce 4070 Ti Super could technically fit in.
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#L=69000000,295000000&c=565,566,567,559,560,547&sort=price
https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N407TSEAGLE-OC-16GD/sp#sp

whats an SFF/mini-ITX case that has dust filters? seems like the majority of small form factor cases were made with being put on a desk in mind, so theres no thought put into filtering dust beyond standard mesh

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5900x for 130 yuro monies, good deal or nah? (I currently have a 2400g)

>>102986934
depends on the psu you got, maybe 3060 or 3070. it's already overkill for jenshin. Don't know bout AMD doe

>>102987862
You could get some addon magnetic filter on marketplace. Anyone selling these would also take custom sizes

>>102987977
>it's already overkill for jenshin
not with uncapped fps

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>tfw need gargantuan amounts of ram for a very specific use case where a lot of ram but not a huge amount of bandwidth is necessary
>am5 technically supports 192gb but caps out at only 96gb since amd's soggy piece of shit io craps itself down to ddr4 jedec speeds with more than 2 sticks
>meanwhile intel has great memory support but the cpus themselves blow ass
It's all so tiresome...
I want a 9950x3d with 192gb... but not at like 3000mhz.....

>>102987906
How much more in 5950x or 5900xt or 5800x3d? Is this for gaymen?

>>102988049
if you arent planing on using it for games, you'll be fine with intel literally , good hands even

>>102988069
Arrow lake is trash. It's Zambezi reloaded

>>102987862
Why would you care about how big your PC is if you're just gonna chuck it under your desk?

>>102988077
the 285k is pretty much equal to the 9950x in workloads that dont involve gaming anon.
the 265k scales just under the 7950x in workloads

>>102987477
Despite the current desktop motherboards supporting up to 256GB of RAM in total there won't be any 64GB modules for them. If ever realized they would be as slow as DDR4 but still have the latency of DDR5.

>>102987607
>Looks goofy to me
That's probably the PG27QFT2A, it's exact same monitor but with a different stand.

what are the chances that the 5700x3d will fall below $200 in black friday/cyber monday?

>>102988080
Case size matta! Bigga is betta! I wanna be sure that even the next GPU behemoth fits in and that I can still access all headers, dimms, screws and knobs with my large man-hands. If the "Big Booty XXL Tower" doesn't fit under my desk I just put it aside or get a higher desk.

>>102988185
ali has it for $150

>>102988222
shit youre right
whats the catch with aliexpress? i never shopped there before, shipping just seems to take a while

>>102988231
non existent RMA or warranty support if AMD won't take it direct

Beat/budget AM4 CPU to pair with a 4060?

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For ollama, 7900xtx vs 4080s vs two 7900gre? Which one anons?

>>102988267
5700x3d

>>102988267
What's your budget? Is this for gaymen?

>>102988275
Forgot to mention very light gaming, mostly rendering

>>102988275
>>102988289
Also budget around 150-200

Is it still better to have 4x16GB RAM than 2x32GB RAM?
Or even 8x4GB?

>>102988304
more sticks bad

>>102988304
Assuming ddr5, its better to have 2x32.

>>102988267
>AM4 CPU to pair with a 4060
Pretty much anything over the 2700, it's not very hard to run a 4060
>Also budget around 150-200
Get the 5700x3d then.

>>102988289
Checkout 5900x, 5900xt and 5950x and see what fits in your budget. Also, why 40

>>102988289
I mean, why 4060?

>>102988315
>5700x3d
What's the main difference between the regular, X and x3d?

>>102988311
Good for ddr4 tho?

>>102988331
no

>>102988327
It was a GPU handed down to me

>>102988308
>>102988311
ok thanks

>>102988328
x3d has extra L3 cache which plenty of games like
also no OC aside from curve optimizer
x has 500 or so more mhz per core on boost

>>102988338
Does the X3d run hot? can a Phantom Assasin cooler deal with i need to get an Aoi aswell?

>>102988368
no, a phantom spirit is plenty and an aio is overkill

>>102988368
it draws like 80w at full load

>>102988373
>>102988381
Aight thanks anons!

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Any thoughts on my build?

Should I get a B650 that has the improved PCI-E slot for future video cards?

Recommendations on getting a higher wattage power supply? I think 1kW should be enough for future proofing.

Next step seems to be ordering parts. Already purchased the RAM and the case. Then I am going to create a Windows 11 image with the Tiny11 builder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdKVph3G6hQ

>>102988135
64gb udimms have already been shown at CES so they're due soon-ish. And those should be specced for 6400mtps JEDEC

>>102988381
>tfw mine draws 100w
Uhhh what the fuck

My B450 Tomahawk has a red LED near the RAM that stays on when my computer is on. Everything I read about it says it's a CPU (or the fan) issue but I've been gaming on this system for three years with no issue. Even after a new CPU and cooler it's still on but running just fine. Should I be worried?

you know what, i may not even buy a gpu, the integrated graphics on my 7800x3d runs ck3 at low settings perfectly fine, and thats the newest game i play, im really surprised at how far integrated graphics have gone, even on CPUs where its a complete afterthought

>>102988575
scalp it and get a 8700g

>>102988600
nah, i specifically got the 7800x3d for games like this since RTS games benefit from the cache a lot

>>102988575
My laptop with Incel 6006U runs CK3 just as well at low settings.

>>102988573
>My B450 Tomahawk has a red LED near the RAM that stays on when my computer is on.
>>102988573
I use the same mobo. that LED is the gay dude detector. you're fine, it's just signalling that there's a gay dude in the room

>>102988617
>i specifically got the 7800x3d for games like this since RTS games benefit from the cache a lot
wouldn't the igpu still be by far the limiting factor for your performance

CK, Victoria, Stellaris etc paradox games decouple simulation speed from frame rate.
You can have smooth 120fps but if your CPU can't handle all the economical math you are getting massive slowdown, and the opposite, even if fps drops to single digits it won't affect gameplay much if your simulation speed is at 100% thanks to v-cache.

>>102988763
>>102988703
>>102988600

>>102988763
oh that's cool
I kneel then, king

Is an air cooler ok for a 7900X?

Why won't Antisemitic Micro Devices make the Infinity Fabric faster?

>>102988931
because fuck poorfaggots

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8 years-old mouse is starting to fail (Dragon War Leviathan).
I didn't really do my research back in the day (bought a cheap "gaming set" as a student), but I actually liked the mouse. More importantly, I got used to its unusual over-under setup for the 3rd and 4th mouse buttons ; I like it. Never clicked by accident on them with my index or my palm, something that has happened with other 5-buttons mouses I used (yes I have big hands) ; and yet the buttons just fall under the thumb when you want to click them.
Is there any better alternative with a similar or identical "ogre-proof" button setup nowadays, or should I just buy another Leviathan ?

800 seconds before getting the captcha. Fuck Hiro.

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>>102988825
A good one, yes. Bench is 7950x but the same principal applies.

>>102988763
Don't forget that Clauswitz Engire simulation runs on a single thread. Single Thread Performance matters.

What's the smallest form factor case that can fit a 7900 xtx
I'm thinking of the formd t1

>>102988938
Is this the new arrowdozer cope? "I'm not poor so I can afford to buy a useless product"?

>>102988988
meteorlake = bulldozer
arrowlake = piledriver

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xTNZBL
thoughts? plan on skipping am5

>>102989022
Looks fine enough I suppose. I'd want 32GB of RAM, since 16 is on the edge of viability right now, and maybe a slightly better board but that's a personal decision. Why skip AM5 though? Cost?

>>102989022
building AM4 from scratch rn is imo a mistake, go for a 12400(f) instead or grab 7600x3d/9800x3d
get 32gb of ram

can I get a update on the current status of Intel CPUs?
did they patch them or are they still fucked?

>>102989059
>Cost?
yes, between ram, mobo cost, and cpu price/perf especially with the 5700x3d i think its more worth it for me to get the 5700x3d and skip am5
>>102989124
why the 12400? it is cheaper but performs worse, and i dont live anywhere near a microcenter to get a 7600x3d, and an am5 build +whatever the 9800x3d will cost is way above my budget

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>>102989156
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3jg4t7
It's not much more expensive if you go for a 7600(X) instead of a Zen4 X3D. Performance is similar on average but with a big SD - I think you could justify the AM4 build if you play a lot of games that scale hard off 3D cache. For a general gaming rig though I'd rather have the newer platform. They're both fine options, mind you, so don't feel pressured to consoom.

>>102989156
>why the 12400?
because if you're going to buy outdated hardware, you might as well buy the cheap outdated hardware
It should do you fine at 1440p, might limit you a bit at 1080p but you shouldn't be at 1080p with a 4070 super & it's not like the framerates you'd be getting at 1080p would be bad even after being limited.
7600x trades blows with 5700x3d and yes, it is a more expensive build, it means you won't need to buy ddr5/mobo again if you upgrade.
If you don't plan to upgrade and just rely on hanging in there as you say, just hang in there with the 12400 instead

>>102989200
>It's not much more expensive if you go for a 7600(X) instead of a Zen4 X3D
I mean that's just a lie, especially if you take aliexpress into account
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Q7kgYN
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZgTfmD

>>102989237
No, it's incorrect if and only if you buy the 5700X3D from Ali (but not the 7600/X which is also $135 there). The OP didn't mention this so we have to assume he's not comfortable doing it.

>>102989260
>but not the 7600/X which is also $135 there
This is the only 7600(x) I could find with at least SOME sales, not sure which one you saw
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806054095988.html
Still 60$ more & less "trustworthy" than the 5700x3d (way less bought, only one review, store is WAY less popular and less satisfied customers from them)

even IF the cpu is the same price, ram is like 40$ more & mobo is like 50$ more (30$ if looking at ITX boards, I suppose)

>>102989288
My bad I forgot to do the currency conversion. In any case, we're talking $60-90 on a $1200 build which is, as I said, not enough to make it a sure thing either way.

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-50-mobile-series-device-ids-revealed-rtx-5050-to-rtx-5090-laptop-gpu-listed

NVIDIA WON

THANK YOU NVIDIA

>>102989356
While I agree AM5 is the better play, since it'll just allow you to swap in a better CPU in a few years & likely skip the next gen (as you likely could with the 5700x3d if you started on 1600/3600). I do think it's a bit of a false claim it's "not much more expensive".
130$ difference (60$cpu, 40$ ram, 30$ itx mobo, the atx is an even bigger diff) is not far off the difference between a 4070 super & 4070 ti super (160$). if you opt for 12400f, you actually do get enough for that upgrade

In my eyes you're basically spending more now to spend less in the future

>>102988049
Don't current gen boards support up to 256GB?

Why don't reviewers use DXVK in their DX11 games? It straight up boosts fps and fixes glitches now.

Is there a point to the 5700X3D at $235 when the 7700X is $325?

Why the FUCK is the 5070 TDP going to be 250W???

>4070 Super is still 600+ euro

There is literally nothing to upgrade to from my 6700XT. What the fuck.

>>102989518
5700X3D is AM4, 7700X is AM5, and there is no 7700X3D

>>102989488
still pretty decent
Its about as good as the 12100 or 12400

>>102989518
If you're just gaming the comparison would be 5700X3D vs. 7600(X). Excluding imports, the price delta on the CPUs is negligible but AM5 would mean a more expensive board and RAM - say $50-100 extra. Whether that's worth it depends on the games you play and your upgrade habits.

>>102989524
>there is no 7700X3D
yet

>>102989524
AM4 is a dead platform, and the volume and popularity of X3D CPUs is such that their value does not depreciste, much the opposite. 5800X3D is already unobtanium second hand in Europe for example.

>>102989523
>Why the FUCK is the 5070 TDP going to be 250W???
What's the problem? That's only 30W more than the 4070S so it's not as if it'd need a higher wattage PSU.

Nvidia drivers issues on Windows are so damn bad now fuck

FUUUUUUUCK there was a prebuilt pc that was absurdly cheap it would have saved me like 500 dollars compared to building it myself but it got bought yesterday and the price tripled i fucking hate myself for overthinking it so much

>>102989554
its actually windows that's broken

are there universal waterblocks for GPUs? i don't want to bust the RAM

>>102989560
Then why are MPOs broken on Nvidia while they work on AMD

>>102989547
7800X3D is sellling for $500 here so lol

>>102989568
curious how the SOP for issues on AMD still includes disabling MPO

>>102989589
yeah its being scalped, AMD restricted supply

>>102989564
Not really, no. The block needs to cool the VRAM so it's (broadly) board-specific.

Is the 9700X a worthwhile upgrade over the 3700X at $375?

I do find it quite interesting that the new pricing has not changed in this tier since Zen 2.

>>102989618
its probably best to go with the 7700 or 7700X

>>102989618
you could just drop in a 5700x3d

>>102989637
Cost of a 7700X at $330ish would on paper be offset by the need to spend $60 on a new cooler, but at the same time I doubt the Hyper 212 could cool either.

>>102986009

>>102989618
If you're doing work then yeah obviously. Run the numbers on the >8 core chips to see which one breaks even first. Bear in mind that Zen5 gets a big uplift over Zen4 in some workloads but almost none in others.
For gaming your options are:
>Drop in AM4 X3D
Generally the cheapest and gets you close to top tier perf.
>"Cheap" AM5 upgrade with a 7600(X)
If you have some cash to spare and want another near-term upgrade.
>All-out upgrade with 9800X3D
If you're a richfag planning on a 5080/5090.

>>102989618
holy shit, no

Can a GPU be such a bad bin that it's only stable at stock settings? I'm talking "24h of Furmark" stable, not just passing a few benchmarks.

>>102989823
Of course
It's possible they're worse than that as well but then you can return it
The stock is just what they estimate like 99.999% of cards can run

Does anyone have any recommendations for a 12 or 16-port ethernet switch? Probably either gigabit or 2.5 gigabit, idk if it matters. I need one to manage the wall-lined cables throughout my house. Need it for a minimum of 9 cables atm (including the router). I intend to connect that directly to my router.

>>102989823
>I'm talking "24h of Furmark" stable
furmark is a heat test, not really a clock stability test. the vrms and board will keep heating and heating until they throttle out. some bad bins will show their instability at higher temperatures while they will be perfectly fine at their average gaming temps.

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I have 2 options here, should I go for an aircooling setup (for future 9800 x3d) with peerless assassin and a torrent, or AIO with a 420mm rad and Antec flux pro?

My main concern is noise, and I understand that these 2 cases are basically the top performers for thermals, but ive never gone AIO before and am wondering if the big 420mm rad will be quieter than a small air cooler

well my G402 kicked the bucket
never liked the shape, and the scroll wheel clicky mechanism failed early, though it would still register pressure

How is the 403? it looks like more of a normal shape.

>>102989839
Yeah, I can't return it, I got it from a shady importer but it was sealed and cheaper than MSRP. I wonder if factories actually offload bad bins to guys like him or if I just got really got unlucky.

>>102989905
Unironically just go to a physical store & try them out. It's going to save you a lot of time and/or money
If that absolutely is not a possibility, I'd order a zowie EC/deathadder and see if you like the shape of that

>>102989991
>death adder
had multiple, great mouse but breaks easily
and synapse is a piece of ass
I don't want to log on to the internet just for my mouse settings to work

I did go to a store recently but the mice they had at the demo computers didn't really catch me
cobra actually felt good but it was like 3 sizes too small, don't remember if that had any logitechs on display, I think they had a 502? don't like that one either.

>>102988431
Bruh if you are rich enough for 4090, get x870E taichi lite, if you want to save monies, get x870 pro rs. For PSU, If it gives a warning, upgrade, else, no need.

>>102988825
Yes, I'm running a AG620.

>>102989618
7900x for cheaper.

>>102990014
>great mouse but breaks easily
yeah, I've been using them for p much my entire life and I've noticed as time goes on, the quality got worse & worse. the blue 3.5G ones I got lasted by far the longest (think one lasted me 5y)
However, if you're a fellow deathadder enjoyer, consider checking out the MX Master, It's the only mouse I've tried that I like the profile of more than the deathadder, but as far as I can tell it's wired only and I don't fuck with that shit.
>and synapse is a piece of ass
I just install it, set dpi & uninstall it lol
might need to log in if you want macros working or whatever, but I don't use those
One I've considered picking up and trying is the Zowie EC1-C, it's p pricy and I can't try it out in person so it's a bit of a gamble and I haven't taken the leap yet.

>>102987384
>admits that it perfomes way better with recommended RAM
>doesn't use it
that's because he says spend less money on the 7800X3D or wait for the 9800X3D if gaming and if you're doing anything else then maybe consider high end AMD or the 285k. the 265k is just a bad product

>>102990060
my heart will always be with the WMO in terms of ergonomics, but it is an unikum
everyone jerks off the intellimouse instead for some reason

I think steelseries did one with a similar shape, kinzu or something but it had the most horrible angle snapping I ever saw

>>102986009
>pic
I guess that's one way to have an "external GPU".

>>102989870
Overpriced shit
Just get phantom spirit evo 120 from thermalright + jonsbo/lian li case

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>>102986009
Anyone know anything about ps5 controllers? No one on the Vidya boards is replying to me.

Are all their controllers the same? Or is there an update v2 type thing now where I should be avoiding certain models/colours because they may have older hardware/battery?

Is Furmark's artifact scanner a good test? It says I get like 100/minute even at stock settings.

>>102990211
its rumored that v2 is launching with the pro but theres no confirmation.
so far all the controllers are the same but you still need to update the firmware on them

>>102990259
the best test is always your actual games/applications. its dynamic frequency scaling remember.

/pcbg/ I don't know what to do here
When repasting my GPU I notice that the mounting pressure is just uneven. I look from the outside once mounted and there's no way I can make that even. The original thermal pads are thick but only cover one side. It's like they're in the way, but that's the default. I check by opening the card after using it for a bit and indeed the side where the pads are seems to make not enough contact with the heatsink compared to the rest of the die.
I have no clue what to do here. I don't want to fuck the pads up. There's obviously no easy replacement. Replacing them with ever so slightly thinner pads might be worse, there has to be a reason they used those. The screws go all the way in as they're supposed to. But that shit is uneven.

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>>102990337
use thermal putty instead of thermal pads

>>102989840
microtik

>>102990337
Are you sure it's not >>102978973 ?

>>102989840
Nicgiga switches desu. It nigs them switches.

>>102990479
No, all 4 screws are equal
Also I tried using them on the heatsink without mounting the GPU to see if they were even when fully screwed in (without overdoing it) and they are even
Only explanation I can see is the thick as fuck pads (3mm I believe?) are just too much for it since they're precisely on that side. Maybe when assembling it those pads were warm or something because I can't explain it.
>>102990350
I just don't know how many thermal things are there anymore. Maybe just put some fucking thermal spray or thermal dust in there.

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Why the fuck do people use contact frames on AM4/AM5? These things where specifically made for the very specific LGA1700 bending problem on Intel (which these idiots still didnt manage to fix on 1851). AMD never had a problem with this and is already easy enough to cool even if it HAD a similar problem. All it does is you taking a risk to fuck up your socket or at least system stability if you fuck up the screw pressure.

>>102990687
because it's fun

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>AMD CPUs demolish Intel in gaming
>Intel CPUs demolish AMD in productivity (Blender/Photoshop/Premiere)
>options that accomplish both things are out of budget

really don't know what the fuck to do here bros, can't go above $450, 7900X3D maybe?

>>102990764
actually AMD wins in photoshop

>>102990687
looks good & prevents thermal paste mess

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>>102990764
>>Intel CPUs demolish AMD in productivity (Blender/Photoshop/Premiere)
Uh lole...

>>102986009
Been out for a while and wow, a lot has changed, huh.
For CPU, budget is no longer the AM4 platform? I thought it was still "alive" and can still be used for 5 years or so specially since x3d versions have been out in a few years/months ago.
Also, what's wrong with 13th/14th gen Intel? Are they worse in their usual incremental "upgrades" over the older gens?
>SSD
What happened to Samsung? WD improved its SSDs? Are Samsung Evo's no longer good?
>GPU
3060? I thought the 3060ti performs like 20% better and since it's been out for a few years now, wouldn't it be the more efficient choice in the 2nd hand market?

What could be considered one of the better AM5 mATX boards? It feels like they are all trash because they all lack in some way or another. Gigabyte has one that looks promising but there are tons of people complaining about coil whining, so I wont take that risk.

>>102991007
msi vdh-wifi, hasn't ever disappointed.

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this is the only 4L I like

>>102990899
my guy can you not read a fucking post and understand the context of it? do you think I'm in the market for a threadripper?

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So i wanna get a second monitor for my pc. My graphics card has one dp port, one hdmi and 2 dvi ports. Am i better off connecting one of the monitors to dvi or hdmi ports or get some mst hub and split the dp port between two monitors performance wise?

>>102991007
hdv m.2, has PCIe 5.0 and good enough VRMs for the 9950X

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cpus sure are exciting at >1080p resolutions

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What's your metric when it comes to upgrading your pc parts? I know a lot of you will say "when the performance no longer satisfy me" but I want to know what is your threshold before you could say "That's it! I'm upgrading my CPU/GPU!"

>>102991136
when I can't push a minimum of 90fps at ultra 1440p

>>102991027
basé

>>102990764
>Intel CPUs demolish AMD in productivity (Blender/Photoshop/Premiere)

Only in video editing because Quicksync. AMD is on par with Blender and ahead in photo editing now.

>>102991007
b650m pro rs

>>102991136
when I can't play a game I want to play at a pretty consistent 60fps, 1080p, on reasonable settings
this time it was Elden Ring, last time it was GTAV

>>102991196 can anyone speak if there is a meaningful difference? Should I even get the B one or another A520? I think my CPU is series 5000 and A520 needed a BIOS update to run it. Sorry for stupid questions, I spent days trying to fix this shit on top of a busy work schedule, my brain is spent and my phone using capabilities low.

>>102990591
Well it still looks uneven but it's quite stable and cool on full load so maybe I shouldn't get too bothered

are Intel cpus still fucked?

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what am i in for? does it have BFI? I'm tempted to go with this over XG2431 because it's like 1/3 of the price

>7800XT $509
>4070 $552
>4070 Super $599
Is the 4070 Super the only one worth considering or are there situations where the two cheaper cards will serve me just as well? I'm on a R5 7600 CPU.

>>102988308
True but not really

it the best if you can get it to work

>>102991530
not really, just worse value than amd offerings

>>102991530
285k performs like the 12600k in some games, so they're fucked in a different way

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>>102991623

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>>102991661

>>102991661
5800x3d wining hard

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>>102991676

>>102991682
see >>102991102

If you wanted to do productivity multicore workloads you could buy 285k and it performs within 10% of all other cpus at 1440p on average

>>102991693
or you could buy a 14900k and have near-7800x3d gaming performance and nearly the same productivity performance

>>102991705
8 core cpus arent gonna compete on multicore, at 14900k is massively power hungry so why bother

>>102991676
>buy $1000 usd motherboard
>buy $500 cpu
>get less fps than my previous build
lol
lmao
wtf

>>102991549
>what am i in for? does it have BFI? I'm tempted to go with this over XG2431 because it's like 1/3 of the price
It's alright for the price, no Strobed Backlight/BFI.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Q_9LVW2Rl4

But if you are really want to go that cheap, consider the Titan Army P2510G, & MSI G244F E2 that are cheaper and 180Hz right now:
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#P=2&D=120000,540000&sort=price&page=1

>>102991730
You forgot the $900 memory that's not currently released to retail customers.

i like how most people aren't even clowning on intel, they are just genuinely concerned/confused

>>102991774
Eh, gamers dont need to care about a cpu with e cores or ai cores but intel has solid foundation to take this chiplet approach and improve on it next gen.

>>102991745
refresh rate doesnt matter it's pixel response time that's important i can run my crt at 30hz and it looks fantastic compared to that 180hz blurry pos

>>102991788
Has anyone reputable done benchmarks at 4k or 1440p? I want to know if the lower gaming performance even matters beyond 1080p. If it doesn't, I can sort of see a use case for these new chips.

can I get a qrd on what the problem with nvidia cards is on linux?

>>102991799
gamers nexus did couple games and as you might expect a 5600x is the cpu after which the stack of cpus plateaus >>102991102

>>102991661
>>102991676
>>102991689
AYYMDEAD UNBOXED BENCHMARKS ARE TO BE IGNORED

>>102991800
No open source drivers from Njudea, closed source drivers suck. Open source drivers suck. That is all.

>>102991800
There are no problems, Nvidia drivers are the industry's gold standard on all platforms, just ignore open sores retards

>>102991788
By the next gen, shintel is getting sold qualcomm, qualcomm sells shintel for parts and sells risc-v processors instead.

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>gAMDers nexus
>AMDunboxed
>TechpoweredbyAMDup
>level1AMDtech
>getskitfromAMDguru
>DerAMDuer
>AMDcomputerbase
>AMDPCWorld
>AMD Is Dead
>AMDTV
>AMDGaminginHD
>I'm an AMD
>Not an Intel Fan
>AMDTwoCents
>AMD Hardcore Overclocking
>AMD3D
>AMD Owens
>AMDBreviews
>AMDTeks
>AMD's Hardware
>AMD Tech Tips

>>102991855
>Nvidia drivers are the industry's gold standard
Does your ass bleed cum or blood? HOw the fuck is that pleasurable?

what are the amdjeets going to do when amd is the only option and they start pulling an intel

competition is good
you should hope intel doesn't go under

>>102991863
You left out hw busters.

>>102991877
Im sure Intel makes a proper gamer cpu without estrogen cores in 2025

>>102991877
By then nvidia's arm cpus will already be putting the nail in x86's casket

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Has this guy roped himself yet?

have they unsealed the indictments and arrested all the reviewers on AMD's payroll for fraud yet?

>>102991793
True you missed the part where they are currently cheaper so why pay more for lower specs? Also there's still a tertiary reduction in input lag from the higher Hz. However, if >>102991549 could spare just a bit more and still less than the XG2431 he could get the ASRock PG27QFT1B which is a 27" 1440p@180hz panel for only $164 that would be a massive upgrade over 24" 1080p in 2024:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LfzXsY/asrock-pg27qft1b-270-2560-x-1440-180-hz-monitor-pg27qft1b

>>102991877
I really hope shintel makes it. They fucking wont sell their fucking FAB!!! Also, when their housefire chips start being reliable (lets hope Arrow is reliable) and start consuming less power, they will be able to sell more server chips and then they will make it. Just think what would happen if shintel sold arm server chips! Shintel needs to get thier act together and do better.

>285k sold out on amazon, bestbuy, and b&h
nice paper launch

>>102991901
why does he go out of his way to expose how much of an unapologetic intel shill he is
like he's not hiding it at all

arm is never going to happen unless there is an actual good x86 emulation layer in windows
>but there is one
no there isn't

>>102991903
If all it takes to kill your company is a few paid reviews, your company should die.

>>102991923
their U9's are suicide binned desu. its not a surprise they couldnt make enough of them
those are fused for 1.4v at 5.7ghz on an average sample which will cause 1.5v vid requests after the AC Loadline is added in

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>>102991945
all skus are out of stock everywhere actually

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R8

The time has come for building a New Battlestation - Mid-High Budget Build

Location: PA, USA (MD, DC, VA accessible)
Budget: $1200–$2000 USD

Current Rig (7+ years old):
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9RyRN6
CPU: Intel i7 7700K @ 4.20GHz
RAM: 32GB DDR4 @ 1067MHz
Motherboard: ASRock Z170 Gaming K4
GPU: NVIDIA GTX 1070
Drive: 476GB SSD Sandisc M2
Monitor: 2x ASUS VG248

Build Goals:
Maxed-out VR for my Vive
Minecraft w/ shaders, ray tracing on current-gen games
Solid multi-media and streaming support
Long-term reliability (5–10 years), willing to over invest in CPU/GPU/RAM but don't know where the bottlenecks are

I’m looking at two builds but need direction on where to splurge:

Option 1: $2600 (too high): https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7HtQ34
Option 2: $1200 (under budget): https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZWqhDZ

Main Question: Will the lower-budget option deliver a noticeable boost over my current setup? I really don't know what the benchmarks are to compare.

Are holiday sales worth it, is there a specific timing on price drops these days?
Are there specific price-to-performance sweet spots for CPU/GPU right now?

>>102991920
i'm the same anon
>there's still a tertiary reduction in input lag from the higher Hz.
genuinely negligible
165hz vs 180hz is close even if in theory it should be better but i doubt it can make a difference with bottleneck being response time
i mean i'm not opposed to suggestions but i need to see it measured and decent good contrast ratio would be great since clarity is not like top concern i just need it to be good enough
i doubt i'd ever run anything at 180 fps anyway that's why i want BFI
>1440p 27"
not a fan it just doesnt scale well and i'm on linux, you can run 4K with native 200% scale but at 1440p you need fractional and using 22" right now it's already plenty of space for me

>Redmi Display G Pro 27 (P27QBA-RGP)
1152 zones for $300-ish, 180hz, yay or nay?

>>102991985
Get Ti Super instead. And that PSU might not be enough even for the super.

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Repasting my old 1070Ti and just took it apart. I haven't done this before but am I right in saying this looks like a really shitty stock paste application?

>>102992020
it's alright, you need to replace the pads or use putty
look up how to use thermal putty properly on youtube.

>>102992007
>ips
xg2431 is literally peak ips

>>102992020
really nasty looking crud there, make sure to clean it well.

>>102992039
>1080p/ 24"
go be retarded somewhere else.

>>102991986
Come back to us after the 9800X3D launches in two weeks:
https://www.techpowerup.com/327922/amd-announces-ryzen-7-9800x3d-and-price-cuts-across-ryzen-9000-series
>Main Question: Will the lower-budget option deliver a noticeable boost over my current setup? I really don't know what the benchmarks are to compare.
Not the 5600G which is deeply crippled, but there are other chips around that price that will be much better your applications.
>Are holiday sales worth it, is there a specific timing on price drops these days?
You might as well wait for Black Friday deals which can knock off some dollars. Also
>Location: PA, USA (MD, DC, VA accessible)
Likely your very best bet will be bundles if are within driving distance of a MicroCenter as there's one in St. Davids, PA & Fairfax, VA.
https://www.microcenter.com/site/stores/default.aspx

>>102991985
Post your PCPP Build Link so we can compare parts available in your local market.
You can go ahead and swap out the 7600X for the vanilla 7600 if it's cheaper and then enable PBO to get back the same performance.
You're likely way overspending on that PSU & RAM.

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>>102992038
I've got these, are they good enough?

Bartlett-lake will save Intel!

>>102991730
You won't get worse performance, you aren't running a 4090 at 1080p. You're probably already gpu bottlenecked in every game you play.

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Is the isopropyl alcohol that you can buy in car shops the same as the one for pc cleaning? I want to grab a big bottle because all the pc supplies are in dinky ass small packs.

qube 500 is pretty neat.

>>102992198
As long as it says it's >99% alcohol it should be fine.

>arrowdozer out of stock everywhere
Did they recall it out of embarrassment?

>>102992234
91% also works well. It evaporates rapidly.

>>102992198
cognitohazard image, don't click

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>>102992138
>Blocks your path

If the yellow jews at AMD launch 9800X3D higher than $450, I will buy an Arrow Lake out of spite.

>>102992138
Bartlett lake is wishful thinking, there's zero indication its even happening.

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Day 570 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.

>>102992299
AM5 is expensive as shit bro.

Is V-cache not subject to binning?
Like shouldn't there be chips made as X3D with some or all it disabled because it failed testing?
Or maybe it's all a scam, and they're all X3D but it's fused off unless you pay $200 extra.

>>102992431
https://www.techpowerup.com/328160/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-has-the-ccd-on-top-of-the-3d-v-cache-die-not-under-it

>>102991985
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/user/DecDork/saved/jW4X23

I feel like a few products I added are a bit overkill.. especially the mobo.

>>102991877
you incels are fine with nvidia being the monopoly in the gpu space, so whats wrong with amd being a monopoly in the cpu space? you made your bed now lay in it
you cant just pull the "oh but it will be monopoly!" card when youre losing, but when youre up youre fine with intel bribing oems to not use amd cpus (literal monopoly) and nvidia having 99% market share in gpus

>>102992505
Or the case, but there are so few cases I find aesthetically pleasing so this one it is I guess.

>>102992299
I bet you'd buy the expensive shit from Applel and Njudea, but not AMD.

>>102992066
Thanks Anon, that was incredibly helpful.
See you guys in 2 weeks.

>>102992505
>7600x in europe
huge scam, the X is not worth 18€, just turn off PBO
>130 for a 2tb nvme
seems expensive

Stupid fucking question. What is the most powerful integrated GPU or APU right now?

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Why does be quiet have these snowflake ports?
Why can't they be like everyone else and have normal cables?

>>102992359
this is, even at scalped prices the cost/frame is still viable.

What is the ram speed sweet spot for Intel 14th gen?

>>102992431
1. Ryzen chips are already failed EPYC bins
2. I can guarantee AMD is stockpiling failed 9800X3Ds as we speak to release a 9600X3D next year.

>>102992637
6000CL30

>>102992431
They do downbin defective chips into slower clocked or core disabled versions like the 5700x3d, 5600x3d and 7600x3d
And they can include redundant circuits when fabbing the cache to make it much more resistant to manufacturing defects at the cost of slightly more area

>>102991986
>Maxed-out VR
Spend less on the PSU and add the difference to the video card in your budget build

>>102992667
That is for ryzen

>>102986898
what is it for

>>102987169
> someone that will seldom play games, but would like a lasting build
Just get a used 3060 honestly won't have to care about it for years

>>102992651
Epycs don't clock nearly as high as ryzens so that makes no sense. There's no guarantee the most efficient chips used in epycs have great clock scaling like those found in Ryzen 7s and 9s

>>102992687
It's also for 14th Gen. Sweetspot implies best price/performance before diminishing returns kick in. Going faster than 6000CL30 is still significantly more expensive.

>>102992637
7200cl34 if 2x16gb or 2x24gb
6400cl32 otherwise

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>>102992553
I think Intel has the best igpu atm on their laptop because of the tile, AMD is about to release Strix Halo which has 40 CUs of RDNA 3.5 in the SOC so will probably be 3070 tier.

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>>102992720
A 7600CL36 kit is not that more expensive vs the 6000CL30 kit

>>102987384
>>I see why people call him drama man
from what I've seen only one person on here does that

Why is the only good AM5 mATX board a Chinese mobo with no Bios support and wack RGB?
>Colorful CVN B650m

>>102992853
Lol, how is it better than b650m HDV? B650m pro rs?

>>102992772
33% more money for 9.4ns vs. 10ns of effective latency improvement seems a bit much to me in relative terms.
https://notkyon.moe/ram-latency2.htm

>>102988270
Bump

How long until consumer DDR6 platforms?

>>102992875
There is some benefit to running in 2:1 mode for am5, lower core voltage and thus lower power consumption.

You weren't kidding about PTM7950
Even the fake chink stuff is better than any paste I have, what the fuck

>>102992997
the secret is that it phase changes. if fakes have that physical property it means its good. constantly going from solid to liquid improves mounting pressure over time.

>>102992871
yes, its listed as B650m but the specs are closer to b650e
has full pcie 5.0 on x16 and m.2

>>102992997
>people posting shopping carts
>never posting orders
>never posting arrived parts
>never posting builds
>never posting benchmarks, temps, anything
/g/ is literally hearsay larp central, wonder for how long it has been.

>>102993045
/g/ has unironically been on a down trend since /biz/ split off

>no more /g/uts threads is sacrigilous

Hi /pcbg/
I’m finalizing the parts list for my first build and would appreciate some insight from people who know more than I do.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zKCv89
Budget is $3500. I live in the US, not within driving distance of a Microcenter. Primarily for gaming (though I care much more about performance than ray tracing), video editing, and streaming. I’m aiming for 1440p.
A couple key concerns of mine are the PSU and airflow. I want to make sure my PC will never draw more power than mu PSU can supply, but I think I’ve gone overboard with the one I’ve chosen. I’m also much more comfortable with air cooling than liquid cooling - I’ve never used a liquid cooler before and am concerned about maintainence costs, which is why I’ve elected to go with air cooling, but I’m worried about the fans I’ve selected being either poor value or ineffective for the components I’ve selected.
I’d also like to ask for advice on choosing a case. Looks are secondary to airflow for me. I’m currently torn between the Meshify 2 and Torrent, but I’m open to recommendations, especially if they perform better.
Thank you, sorry for any stupidity

> See efficiency of HX 370 GPUs
> See decent low-power performance of 890M iGPU
> Look for a laptop with an HX 370 for good battery life, 890M iGPU for light gaming, and powerful 4080/4090 mobile dGPU for AI training and inference
> HX 370 laptops only go up to a 4070

Anyone know why the HX 370 is only ever paired with the mobile 4060 and 4070? Is this CPU just technically ill-suited for more powerful GPUs? Or is there some kind of deal Nvidia has with Intel and laptop makers?

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>>102992997
>making an order right now
>forgot paste
>read this post
Thanks

pic unrelated

How stupid would it be to just get a 7800x3d because I dont want to wait another week+ for 9800x3d?

>>102993045
I mean if you need anything more specific, I have Noctua NT-H1, SYY-whatever the fuck the number is and some TF9 (hate this one, it's a bitch to spread)
All of these, including what came with my GPU, raise temps to the point where I'm getting between 72 and 74C (84/85C hotspot) and the GPU runs both fans at around 52-54% RPM. It's not terrible but still, I thought it could get better.
With this I'm getting no more than 69/80C hotspot at 45% RPM and that's after only a few heat cycles. I'd post more results in a few days maybe, but I consider this good.

>>102993138
fine if you get one for MSRP or lower

what is the cheapest possible display
i dont care about anything but cost, i wont use it for gaming or media or anything, i will only use it to browse a desktop at most

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>>102993045
I am >>102991986

I'll post build as it goes if people are interested. Here's my current rig.
I haven't run a benchmark since I built it but I'll try one now for you. Gimmie a minute.

Wait for 50 series or shoot my shot at a second hand "unopened" gigabyte 4080 super that's like 30% cheaper?

>>102993138
Chances are you'll start to find cheap 7800x3d by the launch of the 9000 series from autists upgrading each gen.

>>102993285
5090 is going to have like 3x the power of a 4080

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>>102993045
Benched.
Be kind anons, I'm on ancient tech.

7500F/Rx 7600 is unironically the last PC anyone will ever need

got 30% more ITS when doing AI stuff on Linux.

What the hell? How much is windows holding back my build.

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>>102990060
>>102990104
alright went to a store tried out a bunch of mice, was really really close to buying a DAv3 but I decided on a HyperX Haste which doesn't have that weird "hump" the DA does
they didn't have haste 2 in stock so I came home and just ordered it online

will be using ancient hp ps/2 ball mouse for the next couple of days until it arrives

did I make a mistake?

>>102993362
windows isn't, the torch spaghetti code is

>>102993310
A 5090 may also cause a housefire, and it's a bit overkill in terms of my budget and needs. I just wonder if the 50 series will be more expensive than the 40 series is atm or if it will launch at the same price range.

>>102993447
prob similar range
its higher tsmc node and those are more expensive and nvidia maintains like 50% margins, but its not that much more advanced than what they used on 4090

>>102993067
CPU change to 9800x3d (I added placeholder)
Cooler change to phantom spirit 120 SE (or an AIO if you want AESTHETICS, which you don't seem to want)
get 6000 CL30 ram
You likely don't need an SSD that expensive, but whatever, you get to pay extra for what you want at that budget
get a weaker PSU (will be more efficient)
I don't know about monitors but judging by the price, I'm assuming you can get a MUCH better monitor at your budget
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PrrXmD

>>102993362
Windows is a toy system, no work goes into optimizing anything for it.

>>102993369
>haste 2
I don't like having a slit separating the mouse buttons from body, but other than that it looks nice
haven't seen it in stores either so can't say if the shape is nice but if you enjoy it that's all that matters

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Behold, video card (excuse the shitty pic, phone is ancient). Swapped my xfx 79xtx fans/shroud with 4 80mm arctic p8 max.
The results are same or better temps at a much lower noise level. Stock fans were fucking obnoxious at >50% fan speed. Somehow i even managed to get an extra 200 points in timespy without really doing much, except adjusting the fan curve to suit the new fans.
Next time for sure im getting a sapphire nitro just to avoid doing this shit.

>>102993476
Thank you very much anon, I appreciate it a lot!

>>102993511
If you want to speed up the workflow a 9950x3d will have double the cores so

>>102993523
Oh sick. I may splurge then. Appreciate it :)

Day 17 of waiting for an AM5 version of this board

Z890M AORUS ELITE WIFI7 ICE
>inb4 B650M AORUS ELITE AX ICE
it has less m.2 and lacks pcie 5.0 x16

>>102993502
I'm tempted to do the same with my Asus 4070S.
Caps at 70c 85c hotspot with the fans REEEEEEing

>>102993502
so how did you attach them to the card? how much it cost to do this sort of mod? Does the card have its own fan header or do you connect those to the motherboard in daisychain?

t. no experience with this sort of thing

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Hi all, I'm currently using a Ryzen 5 3600 but soon I will have the chance to get an AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D at around $150 USD (tax and tip included), should I go for it? Will this upgrade last me at least 3 years?
The alternative is to do a full upgrade in around a year or so but saw this upcoming offer and thought I could push my AM4 motherboard a bit further and save some money.

>>102993572
I am in the same boat as you and if I had the money I would do it. You can find them slightly cheaper at 130-140 in aliexpress. If your motherboard and psu can handle it then sure no problem, you will get much better performance

>>102993570
he attached them with zipties nigga they're clearly visible in the pic
and when you do a fan mod you get an adapter yes, or just connect them to the mobo and regulate them in that way

>>102993572
yeah 3600 is pretty weak and will show as big fps drops in even 1440p games if you have a decent gpu

>>102993553
No idea how that card sounds, but the stock xfx can go fuck itself. The mod was worth it for me.
>>102993570
As the dude says >>102993597 zipties. I used a 4 to 1 pwm Y splitter and then a pwm to micro 4 pin to connect it to the vga. Some cards still use 6 pins i think so watch out for that if you want to do this stuff. Total cost of materials was 59€, but next-day delivery is included in that price.
Also if you want to do this kind mod be careful what fans you buy; you want high static pressure ones.