How were they able to make their mobile version so bad? Is there any special technique one has to master to achieve such task?
How is it bad if I may ask?
>>102998449It is terribly slow.
>>102998383It's super slow but if you get Nightly and make a Mozilla account you can have any extension you like which is a total gamechanger.
>>102998449If you block their telemetry it will choke and refuse to load anything for a short while. Its a small annoyance, yet annoying nonetheless.
Remember that it's Google holding Mozilla afloat. On the desktop they need Firefox to be at least viable because otherwise they'd have a full monopoly and come under regulatory scrutiny. But on mobile because of the iPhone they don't dominate so much so mobile Firefox is completely irrelevant to them.
something something pajeets never imagined in a hundred years sir that you would swipe down at anything more or less than a perfect 180deg angle therefore everything else is a right swipe dismiss tab THANKS FUCKERS
>>102998745Is nightly faster than regular on Android? Only thing I use desu is ublockWhat other extensions are not bloatware
>>102998383>had a pretty good browser with Fennec 68.1>decided to shit it up with FenixThat's how>can't download pdfs naturally any more, now tries to open them in a window>constant download nags popping up at bottom of screen>frequently does NOTHING when left alone for awhile+go to open new tab>have to make specific extension collection to use non-mobile extensions when Fennec could do so naturally
>>102999217I don't know if it's faster.Extension I use:>Stylus>Tampermonkey>Dark Reader>Sci-Hub X Now!>Bypass Paywalls Clean>I don't care about cookies>Translate Web Pages
>>102999181This is so annoying but in my experience it's not limited to Firefox. There's many apps that have started to do that recently, idk why.
>>102999291I never understood why they threw out the baby with the bath water there. Fenix was in no way an improvement from where they were.
It's bad? I use it pretty much exclusively on my phone. I can get ublock on it, that's an instant sell.>>102999181This is annoying, I agree.But not as annoying as this site is now. Several 15 minute waits a day? Thanks Hiroshimoot and fuck you.
>>102999327Me neither, four years on and I'm still salty.
>>102998745You don't even need an account, just go to the about screen and tap the Firefox logo 5 times and it will enable the ability to install extensions from a file.
>>102999181At least the Undo popup is right there.
>>102999331What do you mean you can't get ublock? Just go to the go to add one in the browser settings
>>102999474I literally said I can get ublock on firefox.
>>102998383I've been using Nightly for as long as I have smartphones, that is, four to six years, I think? The are only three noticeable problems with it, all are purely gui-related and therefore minor:1. When you open the tabs panel, most of the time it opens scrolled to the position of the current tab, but sometimes it opens scrolled to the top. Awkward.2. It's sorta easy to unintentionally f5 when scrolling a page to the top.3. It's sorta easy to unintentionally drop a tab when scrolling the tab panel.That's about it. Some of these problems may be fixed by now because I rarely update it and I wouldn't know. The absense of about:config in the default non-Nightly build is also a bug, but I don't think it will be fixed until Google is dead. Waiting for this day like fucking Christmas.
>>102998745>>102999291It can install any MV3 extension (on their add-on store) out of the box. And for anything else there is >>102999352
the ublock phone killer
>>102998383The fact you can install ubo outweighs all the other minor inconveniences
>>103000000TRVKED
>>103000000holy TRVGET
>>103000000OP BTFO
>>102999302I believe there's an extension to replace for that 'Dark Reader' since the performance is so bad but I forgot the name
>>103000000>>103000103We did it reddit! Upboated! Have a kind gold sir! Wowzerino!!!
>>103000000
>>103000000Hello? Based Department? Check these numbers.
>>103000299NO FUN ALLOWED
>>103000206try to figure it out then
>>102999302>>Stylusif you only want some basic css change then you can use userscript>>I don't care about cookiesublock has this built in as optional filter list
>>103000000 The /g/ browser wars have been settled once and for all. Firefox it is.
>>103000648problem with filter list is if you do want to allow cookies you have to turn off your entire adblocker
>>102999217>Is nightly faster than regular on AndroidJust use one of the bunch of debloated versions.IceravenMullFennec
>>103000206>>103000622The performance is bad because of the default mode. Change dark reader mode to static.
>>102998383It's called not using chromium.I waited years for firefox to be as smooth as chrome and when it finally seemed like it would happen, they dropped extensions support.It still isn't as smooth by the way.
>>103000681chrome is not and has never been smoothit's a 30fps browserfirefox is now a 120+ fps browser like edge used to be with the spartan engine and IE9 before itmozilla finally learned what actually matters in browser responsiveness instead of optimizing for synthetic JS benchmarks
>>103000000I dont get (lel) it. Shouldn't the real get be >>102999999 ?
>>102999342based Kaiji poster
>>102998449It's slow and laggy. I only use it as an app for youtube podcasts. UBlock origin blocks ads, and firefox plays the audio with the screen turned off.
>>103000000Chromeniggers, bravesisters...not like this...
>>103000909brave is chrome
>>102999090For now, if the Google deal fell through I and many others would step in and donate to keep them afloat.
>>102999291oh my god, i remember when they launched fenix. everybody was like "what in the god damn". it was fucking horrible. fennec could do ANYTHING and EVERYTHING.
>>103001190Yeah I still don't understand the decision. What we have now is poorly customizable and buggy as fuck. I just wish a good fork would come out, but all the forks are just stripping Mozilla account integration instead of doing anything useful
>>102998383How is it bad? I've switched from Chrome to Firefox because it was faster on my Android device.
Moz://a knows the target audience will put up with anything, imagine consuming slop on a tiny ass screen, using touch controls instead of an actual workstation. It is not for computing, it is not for reading, it is not for getting things done.
>>102998449Slow as shit and has terrible interface, even worse than Chrome tab grouping. Ironically Safari is the least shit out of all mobile browsers right now.
>>103000666kek loves this thread
>>103000622UltimaDark, but it still in developmenthttps://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ultimadark/
>>103001398Bullshit. Phones ARE good for reading. I remember the struggle of using my laptop in a bath. Never again.
>>103000000le shill lion & itoddlers completely obliterated
>>103000000My knees are bending by themselves.
>>103000000iTODDLERS BTFO
>>103000000I kneel
>>102998383They probably use iPhones.
>>103000000that settles it, browser wars are officially over
>>103000863>I only use it as an app for youtube podcastsTubular (newpipe fork w/ sponsorblock) is perfect for that use-case.It also let's you easily download the ones you might want to listen to offline.
>>103002750Bravenewpipe is much better
>>103002750>>103003155Just how many newpipe forks are there?
>>103002750all these meme apps constantly breakUblock on firefox just werks and will always just werk>offlinenot my usecase
>>103003226More than one
Mull, ice raven, or fennec. Install multiple and use them for separate browsing habits. IceRaven has a huge extension list. So does Mull.
>slow slow slowRuns just fine on my phone.
>>103000000The post that saved Firefox.
I prefer it over the competition in terms of interface and it never felt slow to me.
>>103000000check'd
Having UBO while not being some obscure fork puts firefox above the competition.All mobile browsers and sites are so slow and shit compared to desktop that it doesn't really matter. Mobile internet is best avoided whenever possible.