https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-3d-v-cache-cpu-benchmarks-single-core-on-par-9950x-multi-thread-close-14700k/Bench shows 25% than 7800X3D
>synthetic benchmarksShow me vidya performance or I don't care.
>>103005013>Gayming
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>>103005013>up toits funny how zoomers cant see this simple phrase
>meme arrow
>>103005240Sirs, do the needful and click the provided link to the great wccftech.
X4d with stacked cache above and below like a sandwich when?
>>103005155Not only gamingRetard
>>1030050132-5% ftfy
>>103005013>close to last gen intel woooooooooooooooooooow
>>103006764That's 8 threads against 20.
>>103006289That would still be three dimensional however.
>>103006289what if they double stack itwhat if they make it have folds like a brainwhat if the entire CPU is just zigzagged like that and can communicate across the folds
>>103008471While consuming 150 watts less mind you.
>>103005013Show me Xbox 360 and PS3 emulation performance
>>103005240Buy a girlfriend, you pesky little virgin!
>>103005155Wtf do you care what others do with their time and money, faggot?
how much more will it cost?
>>103011347$450 probably
>>103005013i don't think it's going to matter what cpu i have when i'm going to be playing at 4k (as long as it isn't bottom of the barrel trash or old)
>>103011590285k is the best cpu for you
>>103005013Wonder what the point of pushing these chips so hard is. They still have to sell Zen 6 at the end of the day. Tards are going scream disappointment because they can't beat the last gen X3D.
>>103011605It literally bluescreens on you.
>>103011920its a big deal since the 800x3d alone outsells intel's entire lineup combined
>>103005049Fpbp
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>>103011949amd has been steadily losing overall market sharehttps://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/processormfg/
>>103012172funny how retailers universally disagree considering X3D sell rates
>>1030050497800X3D +10%.Now, what's important is that it will be more receptive to overclocking and with latest AGESA you can run DDR5 8000+ with the same latency as 1:1 6000 despite the latency penalty of not running 1:1. Tooned 7800X3D can be +15% over EXPO 7800X3D when CPU bound in games like Baldur's Gate 3 and Dragon's Dogma 2, with tooned 6200-6400 having performance parity with unsynced 8000.With V-Cache now on bottom and unlocked power limit even though Zen 5% is not particularly impressive, 9800X3D will be even better for tinkertrannies.A tooned 9800X3D should be 20%+ faster than "stock" EXPO 7800X3D and tooning RAM on AM5 is way easier than it is on ADL and RPL. I expect it to be faster even in 1% lows than max tooned 13/14900K (very based CPU btw unlike Arrow Flop) in Intel friendly titles.For context, I'm an OC autist and I will be upgrading from delidded max tooned 13900K to 9800X3D. I haven't ran an AMD system since forever.
>>103013050It's only at 4000mtps (gear1) or 8000mtps (gear2) that you're able to sync uclk with fclkOtherwise, zen4/5 runs unsynced at 5200-6400mtps
>>103012172Steam stats include everyone who has Steam installed for any purpose. 22% of all Steam users have RTX 40 card which seems low until you take into account that Steam has 130 mil active monthly users meaning around 30 million people upgrade to the latest gen each gen. Let's say 30 mil are still on RTX 30 or whatever that is relatively modern and still runs games. That still leaves you with half of Steam users just idling it on their work laptop or whatever.Unfortunately Steam doesn't group CPUs by SKU so we're left guessing what people on latest hardware pair their GPU with, whether it's Intel or AMD.
>>103013063I meant 3:2 uclk:fclk on Zen4 and 5. But with latest AGESA you can get away with running completely unsynced because now you only get 1-2ns latency penalty for not going 3:2 but with high enough fclk you can overcome this penalty.You will get roughly the same latency on 3000:3000:2000 as 3000:3000:2200 mclk:uclk:fclk. This means you can run something like 3900:1950:2200 for DDR5-8000 and enjoy more bandwidth at the same latency.Fortnite and Warzone fags (I know I knowW, but these games are extremely memory sensitive and useful benchmarks) run memory as high as possible on 7800X3D because that gives the best 1% lows in these games even if you have to run unsynced. DDR5-6000 being the sweetspot is an outdated concept, only EXPO fags who are afraid of BIOS run it nowadays.
>>103013201> 3900:1950:2200 for DDR5-8000*DDR5-7800Not every chip and board can do 8000 but 7800 is much easier which makes it appealing.
>>103013201Wouldn't 3900:1950:1950 be way lower latency than 2200mhz fclk?
>>103005155>buying an x3d if you aren't playing video games ?
>>103005013>multithread CLOSE to 14700kwait what?
>>103013088I'm surprised it is that high for 40 series cards given how dogshit their affordable cards are and how stupidly expensive the good ones are. My 1070 (got lucky on a pristine "damaged" card and ran it for ages) was getting too long in the tooth and I ended up picking up a RX 6700 because the under $300 market is pretty bad these days. I couldn't find anything in the $200-300 range that was enough better than the 6700 on my board to justify the price difference. (got it for just under $200 after tax and shipping. I'm still on gen 3 pcie because I have an i7 9700k)The silver lining is ancient stuff remains relevant way longer. I put my 1070 in a spare parts build with a 4790k, 32gb ddr3, a 250 gig nvme drive, 1tb raptor, and 4tb surplus enterprise drive to make an old but gold entry into computer nerd land build for a kid I know. Back when I was starting out 10 year old computers weren't really functional with modern software. This one with a 10 year old processor and 8 year old gpu seems perfectly fine.
>>103013891Mid and low end is shit nowadays relative to high end but it's not that bad if you look at what experience you get on them.$300 1060 could play most titles at 1080p60 in 2017, $300 4060 can play most titles at 1080p60 in 2024. I see it as high end pulling ahead rather than low end being gimped. Back in the day you couldn't buy a 5120 FP core GTX 1090 that doubled the 1080. Nowadays starting with 2080 Ti nvidia is releasing high end GPU close to the reticle and viable yields limit, back in the day they weren't even close to it.I don't even think competition matters. The great value 1080 Ti was released when AMD's fastest card was a 1060 competitor.
>>103005910>how can people be misled by marketing lingo meant to be misleading
>>103013464It barely matters. The latency penalty and bandwidth difference are both small and on top of being negligible effectively cancel out.
>>103013974Sorry, Safari is being retarded and didn't attach the pic.
>>103013088>22% of all Steam users have RTX 40 card>Let's say 30 mil are still on RTX 30 or whatever that is relatively modern and still runs games>That still leaves you with half of Steam users just idling it on their work laptop or whatever.Are you implying that only people with the last two gens of GPUs actually play games and anyone with anything older just has it in an office PC for some reason
>>103014033Yes. All data shows people don't play old shit and most people who actively game upgrade often. Few people on GTX 10 cards play the new CoD and even fewer play old vidya.
is this the new timey wimey thread?
>>103014517nice timmings, bro.
>>103013628>multithread CLOSE to 14700kHow the fuck is an 8 core cpu close to a 20 core intelaviv cpu in multithreades performance?
>>103014107Maybe my sample is biased then, because most people I know game on 20 or 10 series cards. I even know people who play on laptops, and lament about poor performance but it's all they've got, and they can't or don't want to spend $1000-1500+ on a modern PC build.And yes, they do often play older games. But not THAT much older. Even new AAA slop can often run pretty well on very old hardware if you turn the settings far down enough; and there's plenty of games that are naturally not very demanding, such as almost all "e-sports" and coop games. The latter because people with big rigs want 500 fps so as a result people with old rigs still get playable fps, and the former because the entire idea is to be able to play with your friends so the more friends are able to run the game the larger the market - if you've got a 4090 but your mexican buddy is gaming on a laptop, you won't be able to play with him.>All data showsCan you actually show me the data? Because both the steam survey (literally half the people have older hardware) and my own anecdotal experience shows otherwise. Give me data to prove that that half of the steam users generally doesn't game.t. still on a 1070, playing games almost every day and feeling no need to upgrade
>>103014517>96gb nice
>>103005013The lizard brain in me wants to upgrade, since that would be a big performance bump for me.However, the reality is that you cannot outpace the shittiness of poorly coded slopware.It's a never-ending rat race.
>>103005013how many fps does it run minecraft
>>103005013>up tooh nononono
>>103014865You need something exactly good enough to run the particular slopware you want to use.If you like playing all the latest slopware every year then you deserve suffering or endless upgrading. But the truth is that new worthwhile slopware comes out very rarely, so you can often ossify your requirements for years at a time these daysSo, in other words, does the slopware you currently play need more performance or not really?
>>103014679because those are useless geekbench numbers. the 14700k has the same score as the 7950X which both have almost the same score as the 9800X3D, even though all 3 have wildly different amounts of threads
>>103005013Is it finally time to replace my 4770k?
>>103013948A 4060 is $300 and isn't any faster than a last gen card you can get for $200. I'd be fine with the performance level, but not the cost. You can get a 2080ti any day of the week for $250 on eBay. The only times it makes sense is as part of an all new under warranty build for someone not techy or the low profile version for a small for factor build.
>>103014107Top 5 games on steam are all free to plays and none recommends higher than a gtx 1060. The call of duty game in the top ten only requires a gtx 960
>>103013891>surprised it is that high for 40 series cardsI'd say it is probably that high because most people didn't upgrade over the last few years because of ETH and AI GPU shortages. From late GTX 10xx series to RTX 30xx series you had significant shortages or price spikes. Now that the dust has settled many people upgrade at the same time.
>>103014760only reason I dropped my 1070 was because I have my gaming pc hooked up to the 4k hdtv in my living room. At 1080p it was fine, but it was maybe 80% of what I needed for 2160p to run stuff from the last few years.
>>103015018the time to replace that aged 4 core cpu was 8 years ago
>>103015238I've upgraded this year to a 7900gre from a 1070 because it wasn't enough for my new qhd high refresh monitor. The jump in performance was absolutely huge.
>>103014886The answer is not really, it's true.I also enjoy toying around with media files, doing quick encodes, webm creation etc., and all of that is very CPU intensive. I'm still trying to wrap my mind around the fact of how slow these operations and conversations (mainly ffmpeg) really are. However, shilling $600 USD for just that, yeah straight retarded. Maybe one day, from the used market. I've always enjoyed upgrading my PC but it has become increasingly more retarded to do so; so much so that even I have come to see some doubts.
>>103015187I was one of those people who ran a 10 series card for the last 7 years or so and being open to both new and old what made sense in a reasonable price point was a used card that's from the previous generation. The 4060 is slower and more expensive than the 2080ti and 6700xt. I bought a 6700 that's on par with it for under $200. A friend of mine has a 4080 super and it is sweet, but he spent as much on it as I do on a whole computer. He ended up replacing his mainboard and processor 6 months after getting it because of microstutters caused by becoming cpu bound at way over 100fps average. He's got to have over $3k in that system now.
>>103005049this board is for adults, kid
>>103013050Overclocking when you have a cpu that fast is either for sport/record chasing or a dumb way to inject instability into an otherwise fantastic component. Overclocking used to be required because all components were slow as dog shit. No longer.
>>103015846>a dumb way to inject instabilitySure if you're retarded and can't stress test properly.13/14900K and 7800X3D aren't even that fast and you still barely break 100 fps in demanding games like Dragon's Dogma 2. I can't saturate my 240Hz OLED even with frame gen due to CPU bottleneck and that's on 2 year old 4090 with 5090 right around the corner. CPUs being fast enough is BS, their progress has not kept up with GPUs.
>>103017194>you still barely break 100 fps in demanding games like Dragon's Dogma 2.That's because DD2 is a horrible game created by retards.
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>>103015454>He's got to have over $3k in that system nowkek, friend of me bought a 2060 in 2021 for 700 bucks. The card is almost useless now.
Burn kikesDeath to jews
>>103005013I don't care about 8 cores, show me a 9950x3d with less latency between chiplets and 3d-vcache on all cores and I'll buy that.
>>103005013Intel is for poor people now.
>>103005013>/wccftech.cfuuuuuuck the jeets who run this site
