is 12gbs of VRAM future proof?

>>103025925
lol no. Nvidia really fucked the 5070.

>>103025916
All that hot air going in the wall and some right back in the case.

>>103025931
but anon, you can buy an 18gb 5070 super in 2026 to replace it. isn't that exciting?

Sorry if it's out of topic, but I can't find a thread about gamepads. I've been looking at the Gamesir G7 HE since it was the first result I found when looking for a controller without drift. Is it good? Are there better choices out there?

>Radeon Golden Rabbit Edition
>No Rabbit designs on any GPUs
Such a missed opportunity

Toasting from previous bread

I think I will get a docking station to plug my desktop into, and then when I want to use my laptop on my monitors, I will just plug in the laptop to the docking station. I would plug this into my motherboard and then get a thunderbolt 4 docking station from facebook marketplace https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-ThunderboltEX-Thunderbolt-bi-Directional-DisplayPort/dp/B08ZS3D6JY

Thoughts?

Do I upgrade my 3700X to a 5700X3D now or do I wait for year or so and move to AM5? I have an old GPU (1080) so I'm not currently CPU bound.

>>103025947
>t. doesn't understand airflow

>>103026050
>so I'm not currently CPU bound
Why are you even considering it then? The only thing you should consider upgrading is your GPU.

>>103025925
no, recently played a game from 2016, it took 10Gb of VRAM at 1440p
is SW Outlaws any indicator, instad of giving you a texture option they will dynamically make everything blurrier, so performance won't suck but you general experience will be way worse than on a card with proper VRAM

>>103026072
I'm hunting for used GPU deals but I'm afraid by the time I get one the 5700X3D will be out of stock (in my country, at least).

>>103026107
you could order from aliexpress

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help me with airflow, air bros. what would you put in this for fans? I think I want to keep the front 200mm fan, but the rest I could swap out.

>>103026119
>>103026107
I got CPU, board and RAM from china. worked out fine.

>>103026129
bottoms and tops are useless, you want it to go in one direction.

Does the 4070ti super come with all the pcie cables to connect to the PSU, or just the 12VHPWR adapter? Planning on upgrading soon and realized I only have the daisy chain cable which I obviously can't use

>>103026119
>used price is less than 1/5th msrp
what the fuck do they do to their gpus?

>>103026132
yeah CPU and RAM will definitely work and mobo can be shit sometimes but just don't buy the cheapest
>>103026146
often they were broken and have been sold and fixed

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>>103026129
>>103026129
This is what I have now

>>103026107
You don't need a new CPU for gaming. Yours is fine.
>I'm hunting for used GPU deals
This tells me that you're not looking for a 4070 Ti Super or something that'll cause your CPU to really hold you back. You don't need to worry about upgrading your CPU. It's a waste of your time and money.
I personally wouldn't do what >>103026119 said and trust AliExpress for anything that costs $100+. Not becuase everything on Ali is fake, but because you have no reasonable way to enforce your consumer rights if something goes wrong.

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>>103026129
air comes in at the bottom and leaves at the top

>GPU usage hits 100% when running a game on one monitor and a youtube video on another followed by drivers crashing
Am I due for a new GPU? 5700 XT btw

>>103026179
pay with CC

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>>103026144
hang on, the 12VHPWR needs 3 8pins connected to it, right?
I'm looking at pics of the PSU I have and I noticed there's only two VGA ports
am I fucked?

>>103026179
>but because you have no reasonable way to enforce your consumer rights if something goes wrong.
Nta or the other anon but I've had a better experience with Ali complaints than I have with some local stores.
Obviously Ali can't compete with the good local stores but you can't always buy from them for a good price.
If you won't buy a 5700x3d off Ali that has like 10k sales and 4.9 stars or whatever, you should never buy from Amazon or any other online only retailers
>>103026129
Two intake bottom and for exhaust either two top one back or three top. Maintains positive pressure
>>103026221
Sounds like something is fucked. Did you oc it? Even if you hits 100% it shouldn't crash
>>103026246
Basic rule is if your PSU doesn't have the cables for a GPU, it's too weak anyway.

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>>103025916
posting again because i need to upgrade my potato Ryzen 1400 but i'm poor. i want to play BO6 and Warzone with my friends. I was able to come upon a 1700 and a 3600 but i'm not sure which would be the better option.

>>103026129
pretty sure the bottom spots on this phantek case are for the power supply and its fan. psu shroud is only there if you get the glass or acrylic side btw

>>103026263
it's a 650w, it should be more than enough for a 4070ti. website says it came with the cables, I probably lost them somewhere

4070 ti super for 615€
should i go for it?

>>103025916
>ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67
Why no NH L12S?

>>103026353
yeah that's cheap

>>103026353
Yes.
t. Eurofag

>>103026221
how are the temps?

>>103026302
3600 is better in games, I'd try to find a 5600 tho.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-5-3600/14.html

>>103026302
3600 for sure if purely gaming. The IPC uplift is pretty decent and it clocks higher too. The extra 2 cores aren't going to help much if they're slow Zen 1 cores. But honestly I think you should get more money and go for a proper current/last gen budget build that is best bang for buck (e.g. 7600) and would last longer too.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-5-3600/15.html

>>103026302
Buy a 5600 off AliExpress for like what, 80-90 bucks?

>>103026063
It's not efficient airflow to almost cover the back vent sperging tard!

>>103026302
get a job. even part-time at least.

>>103026263
>If you won't buy a 5700x3d off Ali that has like 10k sales and 4.9 stars or whatever, you should never buy from Amazon or any other online only retailers
Amazon is superior to AliExpress in a number of important ways:
>I can enforce my consumer rights against them if necessary
>I can speak with a customer service agent on first attempt
>I don't have to wait until 2am for replies to support issues
>No translation issues
>Customer service will often just refund me or send another item without further interrogation
>Amazon never told me to file a police report before I can get a refund on a £3 item
>I've never heard of counterfeit products being sold when it's dispatched from and sold by Amazon

Did Nvidia becoming a trillion dollar company destroy any chance of them making affordable models that aren't gimped by design?

>>103026544
take a chill pill

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/amd-rdna-4-coming-in-early-2025-set-to-deliver-ray-tracing-improvements-ai-capabilities

good news everyone, after 6 years of dlss and ray tracing being introduced to gamers AMD decided to make a competitive gpu

>>103026544
The back vent isn't covered. The top is also an exhaust. Air isn't going to magically force its way past an exhaust fan to re-enter the case.
You clearly don't know what the fuck you're talking about, you stupid ape. Stop shitting up the board.

>>103026353
used / refurbished? no.
new + from a store with a zero hassle return and warranty? sure, you get what you pay for, you pay 20% more than a $500 4070 for ~20% more fps.

>>103026246
>hang on, the 12VHPWR needs 3 8pins connected to it, right?
The good ones only need two.
https://store.cablemod.com/product/cablemod-basics-e-series-12vhpwr-90-degree-pci-e-cable-for-evga-g-g-p-p-t-black-16-pin-to-dual-8-pin-60cm/

Make sure the cable is compatible with your PSU before you buy it, also check the bending variant.

>>103026353
Not worth it if it's a loud dual fan card, you get what you pay for.

>>103026598
*I was looking at the 4070 TI, so instead of 20% faster it's more like 30%.

>>103026613
just launch up msi afterburner and use curve editor to cap the volts and limit the fan speed

>>103026586
It takes at least five years or so to finalize chip designs (tape out).
DLSS 1 and RTX wasn't publicly announced (2018) when RDNA 2 & 3 were still under development.
It was too late/expensive to make major design changes by that point.

>>103026572
>I can speak with a customer service agent on first attempt
SAAR YES YOUR PRODUCT NO GOOD YOU TRY PLUG IN SAAR?
fuck Amazon customer service
>Customer service will often just refund me or send another item without further interrogation
Same here
>I've never heard of counterfeit products being sold when it's dispatched from and sold by Amazon
There's CPUs being sold where they simply swapped the IHS by Amazon themselves.
If you can't walk into the fucking store and talk to an actual human being in your country you're likely to get fucked and have to deal with third worlders

Why are there still no competently put together path traced games 7 years later? Hybrid rendering doesn't count.

>>103026648
intel came out with a ml based upscaler much faster than amd

Ryzen 7 5700X3D vs Ryzen 7 9700X vs Ryzen 7 7700X? going to go along Radeon 7900 GRE

>>103026263
>If you won't buy a 5700x3d off Ali that has like 10k sales and 4.9 stars or whatever, you should never buy from Amazon or any other online only retailers
aliexpress would never, EVER have fake reviews on products, nor would products with high ratings ever arrive missing what was listed, be different, etc. if its too good to be true on ali, temu etc, it generally is.

>>103026613
I can replace fans with noctua ones if they are really loud

>>103026652
theres portal rtx, alan wake 2, cp and uhh metro exodus?

>>103026575
Yes, because NVIDIA became a trillion valuation dollar company by conning people like they always do.

>>103026654
Because Raja was hired in November 2017 and they were just starting chip development in 2018.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/12017/intel-to-develop-discrete-gpus-hires-raja-koduri-as-chief-architect

>>103026016
Bump on this. I am just wondering if this is a good idea or not. Has anyone here done something like this before?

>>103026652
because that game would be limited to the 1% of people who have a 4090

>>103026482
>7600
if they've got a 1400, do you honestly think their motherboard will support a 7600??

What is a good program to make custom fan curves for my GPU?

>>103026593
>The back vent isn't covered.
ALMOST, RETARD.
And it will heat up that's why for air dryers they tell your moron ass on the freakin' box to use it from a distance ya dumb fuck.

>>103026575
99% of all the profits made by nvidia is made from server hardware because GPU's like the a100 and b200 have a 200% margin for cards that cost as much as a car, while gaming GPU's only have like 20% margin at best because of competition from AMD.
>Why are GPU's so much more expensive than the actual cost of parts???
That's the margin for nvidia, they only make the chip and take a 20% cut (except for founders edition). The server GPU's are 100% made by nvidia, so they monopolize all the profit from those high profit cards unlike gaming cards, even if the chip and HBM itself is 1/10th of the cost of the card.
The gamings GPU's are still cost much more than the cost of the parts but you need to remember there are 10 middle men that take a cut from the margin (shipping, cost of warranty, returns, assembly, running tests, etc), and the shop that sells the part typically wants a margin of like 60% to remain profitable (it's probably more like 20% or whatever nvidia tells shop owners what the MSRP is, what they want isn't what they get when you have chinese drop shippers trying to undercut you).

Which HDD models are recommended for storing large amounts of data? I don't want to keep everything on SSDs, I need some big (2-4TB) drives for photo, images, drawings, etc.

>>103026661
if you've already got an AM4 system then upgrade to the 5700X3D. otherwise 7700X

>>103026602
>Cablemod
Didn't these guys have massive issues with their cables designed to prevent fires were actually ALSO causing fires?

>>103026712
eh they're all in the 2% failure rate per year for the intended lifespan
just made sure theres redundancy

>>103026667
>portal rtx
Just fuck my shit up with a bonafide injection reshader in DX7 mode with a deliberately unoptimizer ubershader gimping performance to boot.
>Metro Exodus
RTGI, decent but I don't think that is true path traced rendering.

>>103026662
Plenty of anons bought it and reported it worked perfectly fine
Multiple YouTubers have as well

Yes chinks are despicable but if you're careful and don't try to be too greedy you can get things for absolute bargain prices.

>>103026734
control should be good since it was early showcase for the tech sponsored by nvidia

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>>103026586
>On today’s call, Su pointed out how gaming only accounts for 2 percent of the company’s revenue, while data center is now well over half of the company’s business.
>She says that after spending 10 years turning AMD around, her next task is to “make AMD the end-to-end AI leader.”

>gaming only accounts for 2 percent of the company’s revenue
Know your place, GAYMURS. They don't give a FUCK about you.

>>103026724
So just the cheapest? Aka no point in buying some WD Black or Seagate Firecuda when WD Blue will do the same for half the price?

>>103026700
msi afterburner?

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>>103026717
The Cablemod adapters were the problem, their cables are fine.
https://youtu.be/Y36LMS5y34A?t=266
What are you going to do? Buy SNEEDVGA's own 12VHPW- They closed shop motherfucker.

>>103026752
yeah just google the hdd so it performs normally and isnt some weird outlier

>>103026677
4090 has outsold all AMD GPUs combined hasn't it?

>>103026700
https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases

>>103026742
the most trustworthy of sources(sources said but uh you gotta find it all on your own)

>>103026712
2-4tb is too small for HDD's.
the reason we don't use SSD's for TB of data is because SSD's don't scale as well as HDD's.
But 2-4tb is like a budget amount of storage.
Also people have a lot of misconceptions about HDD's, people like to think that HDD's are more reliable for archival storage or they are wayyy more cheaper, but SSD's are basically better at every metric except scale.
And the point where HDD's get cheap is when you have at least 10+TB. Because the equivalent with SSD's gets very expensive, because there is no such thing as a 10TB nvme SSD for a good price, all your NVME's are like 2-4tb. Your mobo only has like 4 nvme slots if you got a decent mobo (maybe more if you use pcie adapters, and more with bifurcation but it depends on mobo).
And the best part of HDD is that you can set up a Raid setup for the same cost of an buying an SSD setup. The problem is that it's not good for archival storage because you need to power on the HDD and test that it is healthy, even if you leave it unplugged, NVME's do better for archival storage but they have infant mortality, just like all silicon chips like your CPU or ram, they have a high failure rate in the first few years, but after that they probably will last a very long time.
And just all the metrics related to speed is crazy on nvme's compared to HDD's, you are talking about a 10x speedup for large file copies, and 100x faster on random access, and no need for de-fragmentation (but I think only ntfs needs de-frag, so linux users might not need it? I do not know).
Also nvme's lifespan are based on bytes written, when you write too many bytes using "TBW", the SSD will switch to a read-only state, so it forces you get a new SSD instead of risking data loss.

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>"In addition to a strong increase in gaming performance, RDNA 4 delivers significantly higher ray tracing performance, and adds new AI capabilities. We are on track to launch the first RDNA 4 GPUs in early 2025."
>RDNA 4 delivers significantly higher ray tracing performance, and adds new AI capabilities.
KEK @ THE NATIVE RASTER FAGGOTS.
MORE DIE SPACE ALLOCATED TO RT & UPSCALING.
NOWHERE TO RUN, NOWHERE TO HIDE.

>>103026338
Yeah no PSU shroud, I can fit 1 fan on the bottom, with all the cables there I probably have to put a grill on it.

>>103026263
>>103026216
Sounds good I'll reverse the top fans to blow out and add a bottom one

>>103026662
lmao jeww who shill

>>103026575
>any chance of them making affordable models
It's been quite obvious since the RTX 20 & 30 series cards that NVIDIA is done with serving poor people who buy their $300 card once every 6~8 years.
NVIDIA doesn't even get that full amount, these people are worth less to their business than GeForce NOW basic plan subscribers.

If you pay $300 for a GeForce card, expect to be buying another one within 4 years or so.
If you don't want to play that game, they don't want your business.

>>103026853
>I am a retarded nigger monkey ook ook spoonfeed please
Here's a taste, if you're gonna beg for more, fuck off & lurk the thread more, you'll see plenty of anons reporting in about their 5700x3d from ali
https://youtu.be/WdEHAXljbXU

I'm about to get a 7800XT.
Can I let Windows Updates handle the driver like I do with Nvidia? Or will that cause problems on AMD GPUs for whatever reason?

>>103026989
>you'll see plenty of anons reporting in about their 5700x3d from ali
you're the only one I've seen here shilling ailexpress

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>>103026586
Impressive, very nice.
Let's see Pat Gelsinger's earnings call.

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>>103026898
>strong increase in gaming performance
>delivers significantly higher ray tracing performance
Not sure about that one considering the Zen 5 marketing disaster.

>>103027033
NVIDIA's too far ahead with AI hardware and infrastructure support.

>>103027016
Ali is pretty goated for making budget builds.
The 5700x3d is too expensive and only someone who compiles linux every day would care about it.
The $70 xeon PC's bundles are where it's at (you need to get 4 channel ram however).

>>103026996
as long as you don't try installing the latest AMD drivers, its Windows drivers which may not be the latest or the AMD drivers. where there's an issue is Windows tries to install its drivers over the top of the AMD drivers, but if you're just letting Windows handle it it will be fine.

>>103027016
your the only one here saying ali cpus are not legitimate

>>103027052
used Xeons are a false economy

>>103027016
https://desuarchive.org/g/search/text/5700x3d%20aliexpress/page/4/

So how does Ali Express have extremely cheap 5700x3ds in plastic packaging? is that something intended for bulk PC builders that isn't normally sold on western ecommerce sites?

>>103027125
amazon sells the same chips, just with import fees and prob higher delivery fees added onto it

>>103027080
used xeon bundles BTFO $100 mobos + $100 cpu + $50 16gb ram builds.
If you are buying a budget GPU, like a $80 used 1660 super / ti from ebay or cheaper on facebook marketplace, you are not going to hit the CPU bottleneck unless you run some shitty single thread emulator (windows 98 emulation in 86Box).
Undeniably, you need a better CPU for a 4060 or 6600 XT, like a 6 core modern CPU, since the xeon can only run 90fps on cyberpunk (you are buying a GPU made for AAA games, you also need a CPU made for AAA games as well).

Can you run reliably run 6000CL30 64GB (so 1DPC 2R) on every Zen chip/motherboard?
Or should I get 48GB of 1R M-die?

>>103027125
if you bent a pin and tried to return it to aliexpress, good luck getting your money back LMAO!
>newegg won't let your return CPU's either
yeah, of course they don't, but you could still return the CPU pretending it's broken.

>>103027276
amazon's cpu pins come prebent :)

>>103027068
today or all year

>>103026869
Isn't it like SSDs in general start to lose data when you don't keep them under power while HDDs can be simply kept in box when not in use?

Any anons have a NAS? What case do you recommend? I have some random insanely cheap case and I ran out of HDD slots, so now I want something better but not that expensive. I looked at the meshify2XL (lots of HDD slots) but i don't wanna spend so much on it.
I don't think I want hotswapping or anything, or atleast I don't see the point of it.

I was going to buy some simple 3200 ddr4 for my PC but and suddenly found some patriot 4266 ddr4 priced the same.
If I get that I should be able to run it at a lower frequency right?
Also, this one mostly out of curiosity, but would running it at a lower frequency reduce the power consumption?

>>103027033
It's funny because AMD actually made more money but wall street decided they weren't good enough anyways and dropped their stock. Just goes to show that making number go up is not always enough for the """market"""

>>103027189
$80 5600, $20 used motherboard, $20 used ram kit.

Parents got some desktop computer second hand, they were told it wasn't working but it is working apparently. Also came with two monitors, one is dead in one of the corners but seems usable enough for old folks.
They also said it was rather slow, which is the part that gets me worried. I'll go visit and take a lot at it this weekend, what are some tests I can run to determine why it is slow and if it's worth spending any money on? They said it was built on 2015 so I expect some old ass shit, but I'm not sure what parts are gonna be bottlenecking it.

>>103027447
I have a NAS, and I use the fractal meshify 2 no idea if it is the xl or not. It has plenty of hard drive spots, but you have to buy the trays separately. I would look on Facebook marketplace for some cases honestly

>>103027386
I don't doubt there are HDD's that have survived like decades on a shelf, but the idea that SDD's lose data when unpowered has not been measured by any long term test anyone has done, you can feel 100% safe of an SSD holding data for at least a decade.
The reason an HDD could fail without being powered on could be as simple as room temp or you move to a new home and vibrations happen during moving.
HDD's are just a terrible format archiving, you should do your own research if this is the reason for buying the storage.
The main reasons servers use the HDD's is because of RAID, it's much safer to have a backup disk, and it's very unlikely both disks break at the same time. They basically replace the HDD when it starts failing (saves money, maybe the HDD is built different and it lasts longer than the expected life).
And also the TBW of SSD's is problematic since the main reason servers want to use SSD's is for high speed caching (they can't use SSD's because setting up raid is prohibitively expensive, you are spending like 8x more for SSD's), but that requires frequent writing, so the SSD's get burnt up really quickly (Most people buy new SSD's when their old SSD still has 90% of the TBW life remaining, mainly because they need more space).
Also if you are storing images and stuff with thumbnails, SSD's are amazing because the thumbnails will load in in a fraction of a second, while HDD's load the thumbnails in like 1 thumbnail per second depending on the resolution or filetype (all because of the low latency and high random acess speed).
Overall, HDD's have their uses, but I don't think they are cheap enough considering all the downsides, HDD's are great for raid because you have the mentality that you expect the data is going to fail, and you will buy another HDD. If you only have one HDD, that's retarded.

>>103027575
check for an SSD, if they don't have an SSD get them an SSD and a fresh copy of windows

>>103027575
if it was built in 2015, chances are its full of viruses and on a hdd.
throw in a 500gb SSD and upgrade to windows 10 (guaranteed its on 7).
if you want to actually waste your time, malwarebytes, windows defragger and CCleaner. Also a copy of the latest Windows 10 ISO, you don't need antivirus anymore as long as Windows Defender is operational.

What’s a good alternative to the Lian Li Dan A3? The Asus Prime AP201 looks good, but I refuse to buy anything from Asus

>>103027546
a $20 mobo is possible, but I only see a $20 b450 without a flash button in my area (it's like $10 in gas).
does AMD still provide the doner CPU thing? does it apply to used mobos?
It's probably a good PC for a 4060, but you are still paying 2x more than the xeon for 50% higher cyberpunk fps (worth it, but it all depends on the GPU, and if you need strong single core performance).

>>103027538
AMD's share price went down because their Q4 financial forecasts didn't meet the expectations that were already price-in.

>>103027538
The stock market is not any more valid than any random crypto shitcoin. It's literally a millionaire's playground for free cash.

>>103027973
if anyone ever doubts this just mention gamestop

I bought a prebuilt PC years ago, and I realized the company I bought it from did a poor job. They:

>DID NOT PUT THE HDD IN A MOUNTING RACK; it was just lying on the bottom of the case, wiggling around.
>Not all the screws for the motherboard were screwed in.
>Horrendous cable management.
>NVMe drive was not screwed in.

Never buying pre-built, already cleaned most of it up so I cant take a picture and send it their way and ask for some form of compensation.

J2C did a video showing if you OC 285K ecores and pair it with $700 CU-DIMM RAM you can get performance uplift that puts it on par with 7800X3D in games and outperforms 9950X in tasks.

But he also hinted that at least as far as games go all of that is meaningless as the 9800X3D which he is testing now BTFO out of everything by a lot and told everyone to wait.

>>103028086
He's a youtuber who thrives on clickbait anon

>>103028086
cudimm ram is like $250 anon. the same price as regular fast ddr5

>>103028051
why did you buy a prebuilt tho
are you too busy with your career to spend the time to do it yourself?

>>103028086
what the fuck do ecores have to do with gaming?

>>103028167
E-cores on arrow lake are better than the P-cores

>>103028167
Arrow Lake OC works backwards
I could go on a longer explanation but I won't

>>103028186
>>103028188
are we gonna see e-core only cpus next gen?

>>103028152
this stings, got fired last month and bought this during covid when i was too afraid to built a pc myself.

>>103028233
Sorry to hear that but, theres youtube videos that go a long way to alleviate any confusion about the process so I cant really emphatize

>>103027704
What part of the Dan A3 are you looking for in an alternative? What's the appeal you're trying to replicate?

>>103028207
E-core only CPUs are most of Intel's revenue.
Their next server CPU will have 288 Skymont cores.

For the same price and mostly the same specs, am I better off getting the SSD with cache or the one that is pci4 instead of pci3?

>>103026302
For processor, find a used 5000 series am4 processor. What gpu are you running?

>>103028274
dram doesn't really matter now because the dram-less ssd's just use your OS for dram.
if you are using pcpartpicker, some of the SSD's have benchmarks you can use to compare.
Overall the MP44L is not bad for budget, 990 pro is popular for the better specs.

>>103026674
Fuck it, I bought the thunderbolt card and also a thinkpad thunderbolt 4 docking station

Anyone here with a 1440p monitor and can say how good/bad 1080p vids look on them? I dont play vidya that much but I definitely want to get a new 27 inch monitor and 1080p on this screen size looks pretty bad from what ive heard so it will probably be a 1440p one but im a little bit hesitant about how videos and streams (which I watch a lot and are mostly in 1080p ofc) will look on there.

>>103028323
I was wondering whether to get the the mp44 or mp44l? The major difference between the two is that the mp44 has more than double the tbw at 1450 vs 600 for the l version. But it's also a bit more expensive and I am not sure whether the extra tbw will ever matter.

>>103028400
So, what's the plan? You want to use the same set of monitors on both laptop and desktop?

>>103028414
bitrate makes way bigger of a difference in the perceived image quality than the res alone

>>103028414
What refresh rate are you looking at? Also, are you looking at IPS.

>>103028423
TBW is based on capacity mostly.
2tb has 2x TBW than 1tb.

>>103028479
I know, I was looking at the 1tb version for both

>>103028440
>>103028444
All the possible picks on my list have 120-165hz ( probably gonna be one with 145hz tho). And yeah im definitely getting an IPS one.

>>103028513
if you have 600€ consider an oled
ips grey blacks are a bit depressing in current year

>>103028513
Anon, I have 1080p 27 inch monitor for animu and programming. It looked like shit at the start, then I got used to it. Get a 1440p anon.

>>103028488
oh sorry, I was wrong. I'm not sure, if it's too pricy then go for the MP44L other wise go for the MP44, it seems like a better SSD.

>>103028547
Not an option for me, way too expensive. I even originally was planning on getting just a new 24inch 1080p monitor but ppl convinced me to overstrech my budget and get a decent 27inch 1440p one for a little bit over 200€ and they look all pretty good. But one of my last concerns is like my original questionwas how 1080p videos look on there.

>>103028597
Vids look fine anon even on 4k display, maybe someone with more autisms can explain.

>>103028574
Yes it will most likely be 27 inch 1440p for me but i still wanna hear what ppl who have one have to say about how 1080p media looks on there. Bc if its not so good might actually go for 24 inch 1080p.

>>103028597
>>103028657
it looks like 1080p. what said >>103028440 matters way more. vp8 or nvenc 1080p is going to look worse than av1 or cpu 1080p.

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Why does this cooler still exist?

>worse performance than Thermalright AXP90-X53 Full Copper
>more expensive
>taller (65mm vs 53mm)
>still uses 92x15mm fan

It's a pointless product that has remained unchanged for 9 years

>>103028647
>>103028675
Okay well im not that tech savvy to know about any of this tb h. Its mostly youtube vids/streams etc.. But its not going to look like clearly downscaled or anything like that bc that was my main concern bascially

What is the difference between x870 steel legend and pro rs? the specs look the same to me.

>>103028425
Yep. I want to plug in my laptop occasionally so I can get studying done without the distraction of my games being RIGHT THERE. Plus it is hard to work on a laptop screen and trackpad

>>103028735
YouTube varies it's quality based on codec and if their CDN has a copy available near you. If you play say a video game that has 1080p CGI then it will present as is it were encoded which could be good or bad depending on the devs implementation of bink or other video playback.

Basically the content will look fine if it looks proper on a 1080p screen. It will look worse if it already looks muddy on a 1080p screen.

>>103028735
Nah, theres actually upscalers for videos these days that use machine learning for their algorithms
Lossless scaling is on steam that can be used, then nvidia has their upscaler that can be enabled called super resolution in nvidia control panel.

>>103028781
I think the steel legend has more USB ports or something like that, but yeah not worth it imo

>>103028782
I think KVM is the solution you should be looking for IMO, your thunderbolt dock might get you lower refresh rate or come with some limitations. I connect all the usbs to a single usb dock and the monitors are connected directly.

>>103028597
If you are a huge movie person, you probably watch movies in the dark, and if the movie is sci-fi or horror or just really dark, all IPS monitors struggle with blacklight glow.
If you want a budget monitor with significantly darker blacks, in exchange for the possible artifacts you get from mini-led (basically it's impossible for mini-led to provide the same quality as OLED, the zones might glitch out and flicker or something). You might want to go with the Q27G3XMN, it has 300 zones which is really large, but it will make dark scenes really dark compared to IPS (but only if you are in a dark room).
There is also a Xiaomi G Pro 27i with 1000 zones.
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/aoc/q27g3xmn
Note the bad rating for the VRR flickering is for gsync/freesync, and this is the worst case scenario where the game is running at 10fps, but 1 frame inbetween so it switches from 10fps to 180fps to cause the flicker, it's very unlikely to happen and your games should run smoothly 99% of the time (get better hardware or use a frame limiter to suppress it).
This is the artifacting I am talking about:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icYY_z3VQEk
Honestly there is not much of a difference between 1080p and 1440p other than size of the monitor, if you want to save a buck go for 1080p, especially if you don't have a GPU better than a 4070 / 7900 GRE (you are unlikely to reach 180fps on 1080p with those GPU's, so it's only worse with 1440p unless you use DLSS).

>>103028734
>It's a pointless product that has remained unchanged for 9 years
the entirety of noctua can be summarized as that

>>103028794
>>103028805
Sounds alright to me. Thanks will probably go for it then

>>103028414
27" 1440 Videos look fine completely fine
1080p games on 27" 1440p screen didn't look good to me always had to play at 1440p instead

>>103028832
problem with aoc is that it costs 350€ minimum in eu
theres some cooler master miniled coming soon, hope that pushes prices down

>>103028734
Because they're still selling. See how many idiots still buy the ancient NF-A12/14 fans (not the x25s).

>>103028734
SFF and rack server builds.

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this is a good mouse

>>103028893
okay

>>103028734
people who want something better than a wraith prism

>>103028832
>>103028850
Thanks appreciate the help

>>103028254
Small form factor/micro atx case that doesn’t require special SFF parts and is compatible with typical ATX sized parts

Brehs, are Alienware AW2725DF or LG 27GS95QE-B worth 2.5 times the price of Acer Nitro XV275U P3? Also, for the same price of the acer, I can find more IPS and VA monitors at 240 or 280Hz, at 1440p. Anyways, IDK how much to spend on monitors.

retard question here, why is there an entire industry of packaging chips designed by amd/nvidia and manufactured by tsmc? why are is there an extra level to specifically the gpu market? is this just how all modern manufacturing operates and gpu is the only one that is so open about it?

350 is the correct price.
this is the price you pay for next gen backlight technology.
If your PC is worth 1500 euro's, I think it's fair to get a better than budget monitor if you are sensitive to backlight glow, since this is the ONLY way to minimize it.
If your PC is budget ($1000), you should go for 1080p.
Also mini-led is basically IPS or VA with a better backlight, the AOC monitor is VA, but VA has a history of being terrible for gaming due to smearing, but it seems AOC has decent VA and the one benefit VA has over IPS is noticeably better blacks (better contrast), so it helps even more for hiding the backlight, unlike the Xiaomi which uses IPS (the video with flickering could have been less noticeable if it was VA, maybe...).

>>103028983
apple designs chips and have tsmc make it. fabs for hire have been a thing forever. you also always own your own fan like sk hynix or samsung does there are pros but also cons to doing so.

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>>103025916
>1440p: RX 7900 GRE
No

>>103025925
Almost always about performance, not about VRAM capacity. In fact, VRAM considerations are third behind performance and reconstruction quality. Even the cards with 16 GB of VRAM like the 4070 Ti Super aren't really that strong. 4070 Super will run out of performance before its VRAM becomes a significant problem

>>103026105
>recently played a game from 2016, it took 10Gb of VRAM at 1440p
Watching a game sprawl out across a VRAM buffer means nothing. It doesn't need that VRAM for performance or image quality. There are no games I'm aware of from 2016 that even need 6 GB of VRAM at 1440p

I just got 1 gigabit broadband. Is it worth it anons? I've had 300 and 500 mbps in the past. I didn't know the difference between both.

>>103028991
I meant to reply to:
>>103028853

>>103028983
I was thinking about the samething, why don't Nvidia and AMD do it themselves? Surely there is not much monies to be made here. That's probably with EVGA left the market.

>>103028816
I only have a 4k 120hz monitor and a 1080p monitor, so I think I would be fine. The worries I had about KVMs is latency, and I thought refresh rate/resolution would also be affected by a kvm instead of a thunderbolt cable. Do you have any recommendations on KVMs? I thought about getting the sabrent thumderbolt 4 kvm but I heard it runs way too hot.

>>103029010
sorry I was talking specifically about the third company in the equation that adds the plastic casing and final packaging that most end customers get, your gigabyte/sapphire/asus etc, I know that nvidia does a limited number of their own branded gpus outside of the massive enterprise ai gpus.

>>103029069
I don't have one anon and I don't have any recs, I'm too cheap. That's why I connect it directly.

>>103029051
only tsmc has the euv tech. amd/nvidia would need equivalent but they don't because its too expensive and they need people who know how to use it too plus the whole work that goes into the fab it self. intel already struggles to make chips for example.

>>103029074
nvidia/amd offload the brunt of customer support repairs, shipping worldwide, and other logistics to aibs. in return they get a cut of the profit.

>>103026050
>>103026107
If you're 100% sure that you're going to upgrade the graphics card with the launch of next gen products, it's fine to grab the 5700X3D now. Otherwise I'd hold off on the 5700X3D. The 3700X is still a 60 FPS CPU in most cases (outside of the most CPU demanding games like MSFS 2020); if you're not getting a powerful graphics card as an upgrade, there might not even be a reason to upgrade it, especially if you end up with a low end card like 3070 or something.

>>103026144
>>103026246
Likely that the adapter that the 4070 Ti Super will come with is 2x 8-pin. That's the only cabling it will come with, and be advised that you can't randomly swap cables on your PSU. They have specific, nonstandard pin outs. You'll want to run a separate cable from the PSU to each of the 8-pins on the adapter. If it's a 3x 8-pin 12VHPWR adapter, you can use a split cable for two of the connections. So, still two cables from the PSU.

>>103026221
>followed by drivers crashing
That graphics card was garbage from the start. Should have sold it when it was actually worth something to miners

>>103029103
Bruh, chip design is difficult, TSMC does manufacturing for a lot of companies. I don't think creating a board for GPU is nearly as complicated as what TSMC or Njudea/AMJeet does.

>>103028983
The reason I think is they don't want to deal with the customers directly on RMA, support etc.

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>>103029051
Because owning the board assembly line is a low-margin business, let other people deal with the cost of that process which includes labor.
It's also politically risky considering most of this assembly is done in China.
There is a reason why all the reference tier cards are unimpressive and card manufacturers charge a significant premium for their best models.
Selling video cards doesn't make a lot of money if you're not the chip designer.

This is why video card manufacturers diversify and sell overpriced motherboards & PSUs.

>>103027581
I don't understand why you call SSDs cheap, when I checked my shops, in 1-4TB range they roughly cost twice as much as HDDs with same capacity.

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>>103025916
I want cut a hole into the sides of my case and install a fan mount. Any tips on how to deal with acrylic?

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>>103026302
The 1700 is garbage for gaming. The 3600 is better, but try to find a 5600. Make sure to update BIOS before removing the old CPU

>>103026353
If it's not a scam, yes.

>>103026648
>RTX
RT is DirectX, meaning AMD knew about (and problem had some hand in designing) the RT standard. That's why RDNA2 had hardware RT acceleration. As for upsampling, RTG is just retarded. Intel had high quality upsampling before RTG.

>>103026668
I can't tell if you're being facetious or just completely lack self awareness. There's no way that Nvidia could have become a trillion dollar company without having substance

>>103026712
You should be using Windows Storage Spaces for fault tollerance. Minimum is 2x HDD for archival storage, so like 2x 2 TB HDD, and 2 TB will be available for storage, but if one dies, your data is safe. If you're not doing that, avoid Seagate.

>>103027531
I'm not sure what profiles the faster RAM will have
You could definitely tune it yourself, but that's a huge pain in the ass

>>103028893
I'm looking for a new white mouse with some extra buttons. I like the design.
tell me more about it pls

>>103025916
>Premium: Samsung 990 Pro (Windows only)
>(Windows only)
How does it perform worse on Linux?

>>103029201
Yes 2x price but you are doing raid so you have 2 HDD's.
>I can get 3tb for $40, 1tb SSD is $50, it's actually 3.5x cheaper.
Yes, you are correct, but it's still only a little bit cheaper with raid.
I 100% agree that if you care about your data, you should always mirror the data somewhere, even if SSD's have a 99% chance of surviving up until the TBW is exhausted and the SSD enter's read only mode (to help stupid people who don't check the health of their HDD's to replace the HDD before it dies and they need to spend $200+ on a data recovery guy to recover the data with a chance of 100% loss and no refund), there is always a chance SSD's fail, and I could see the argument for data recovery for SSD's being more expensive and permanent. And buying 2x SSD's is too damn expensive.
But if you really are dead-set to only use one storage device, SSD's are better than HDD's.
Nobody is arguing that HDD's are more reliable than SSD's, if you don't trust me, look at other sources of information on the internet that actually does tests and talks about the different ways you could lose data and for me, it always pointed to the same conclusion that consumers are better off with SSD's, most people replace their SSD's with 90% life remaining because 5 years of gaming is not enough to use up like 300-600 TBW. If you are a server, maybe HDD's could save you hundreds to thousands of dollars.

>>103029323
Samsung nvmes rely on a driver to tard wrangle their controller and it's for Windows only.

>>103028274
Always buy PCIe 4.0 drives at this point.

>>103028423
The MP44 is the substantially better drive.
The extra endurance stems from the type of flash memory used

>>103028414
>streams
The encoding is garbage in general. Considering non integer pixel ratios between 1080p and 1440p is the least of your worries.

>>103028971
>IDK how much to spend on monitors
If you're going for OLED, bite the bullet and get a 4K 240Hz OLED like the MSI MPG 321URX. The lower resolution OLED monitors have problems like fringing on text because of the subpixel arrangements.

If you don't have $1000 to spend on a monitor, the next best cheaper monitor is the AOC Q27G3XMN: entry HDR and decent response times.

Any monitors like the AOC 24G2ZE/BK but in 2160p resolution?

>>103026302
>and Warzone
You need the extra cache period.
5700x3d if your motherboard supports it.

is the 7800X3D actually worth it?
atm its market price is like 140€ higher than the 7900X

>>103028734
deutsche qualiteet (TM)

>>103029391
No, I don't have any reasons to not agree with what you say, I'm just calculating my costs, that's all. Also, for me 1TB SSDs (m.2 and 2.5 costing the same, somehow) are going for equivalent of around 87$ and 4TB HDDs for equivalent of around 125-250$. At this point I'm seriously considering making some sort of docking station for raid purposes since my case, unfortunately, have only tight space for 2 HDDs (one need to be mounted upside down or I wouldn't be able to connect it with cables, there is not enough space between them and case side panel).

>>103029428
>AOC Q27G3XMN
Not available in my shithole. I'll try to find something good anon.

God, when are they going to release these new strix apus for desktop already?

>>103029471
I bought 7900x desu. I don't game one it though. Not like 7900x is going to perform bad in games anyway.

>>103029100
Thanks anyways anon! I am looking at kvm switches now and it doesn't look like there are many that support 4k 120hz.

>>103029020
I have 2Gbps fiber to the home.
Everything is so paywalled now that you could throttle my speed to 100Mbps and I wouldn't even notice until I started downloading a torrent.

>>103029485
More expensive but should be decent: Xiaomi G Pro 27i
more info:
>>103028832

>>103029558
Danke

>check smart of my 980 pro
>only 1500 hours
this is bullshit, it should be around 10k hours.
What's wrong? Why does it report incorrect value? It's a system drive, so power saving shenanigans don't apply here.

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im a consolefag and one of the main reasons I wanna switch teams is to be able to pirate new AAA titles.
How easy/accessible and safe is that? I live in Germany and the feds here are notorious for going after privacy for some reason

>>103029747
I got on skidrow / fitgirl / igg and I use Jdownloader and it just downloads all the links on the page, then you find the .zip or .iso and tell jdownloader to download it.
You could still get caught but personally I think ISP's are targeting torrenting more than repack sites with urls to mega.nz

>>103029727
post pics
you sure you are not looking at raw hex value? that would be over 5000 decimal
or maybe your software reports "0a controller busy time" but not "0c power on hours"

>>103029815
*I always forget to mention, use noscript extension. Those websites are riddled with the most viral aids you could ever imagine, more damaging than the email your ISP will make.
It's tedious since certain sites NEED certain JS to load, so you need to learn by trial and error, try using a 2nd browser that for the use of noscript like edge or firefox.

>>103029747
VPN

My ancient and venerable computer is making worrying noises now and I was wonder about an am4 pc.

Motherboard PC combos:

asrock B550M pro4 + 5600x
asrock B550M pro4 + 5700x3d
asrock x570s PG riptide + 5700x3d

Which one would be best? (or none)

>>103029856
Buying new, go am5. I was about to go some steel legend + 5950x, instead I got 7900x + x870 pro rs.

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The time has come for building a New Battlestation - Mid-High Budget Build

Location: PGH PA, USA
Budget: $1500–$2200 USD

Current Rig (7+ years old):
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9RyRN6
CPU: Intel i7 7700K @ 4.20GHz
RAM: 32GB DDR4 @ 1067MHz
Motherboard: ASRock Z170 Gaming K4
GPU: NVIDIA GTX 1070
Drive: 476GB SSD Sandisc M2
Monitor: 2x ASUS VG248

Build Goals:
Maxed-out VR for my Vive
Minecraft w/ shaders, ray tracing on current-gen games
Long-term reliability (5–10 years), willing to overinvest in CPU/GPU/RAM but don't know where the bottlenecks are.

I’m looking at two builds but need direction on where to splurge:

Option 1: $2700 (over budget): https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rhMjjH
Option 2: $1200 (under budget): https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZWqhDZ

Main Question: Will the lower-budget option deliver a noticeable boost over my current setup? I really don't know what the benchmarks are to compare.

Are holiday sales worth it, is there a specific timing on price drops these days?
Are there specific price-to-performance sweet spots for CPU/GPU right now?

Advice from /g/ so far:
Wait two weeks for new AMD drop to lower prices
Wait for black friday and try to buy bundles of similar items to save a few bucks
Lower the PSU quality to save a few bucks for higher end video cards (sus)
Suck it up and drop $1500 for the RTX 4080 Super (sus)

>>103029856
5700x3d only draws like 75W at full load and aside from CO it's very locked regarding overclocking so you can perfectly use it on the shittiest AM4 motherboard you could find that supports it and be fine, no need for x570

>get 7800x3D
>get big performance boost with windows 24h2
>get boost with new bios tweaks
it was already fast before all of this, even.

>>103029505
makes sense. I also rarly game these days.

>ViewSonic VX2758A-2K-PRO-3 240Hz
Why the fuck is this pos so cheap? What's wronk with it?

>>103030021
low end ips monitors tend to be under 300€

>>103030031
240Hz, 1440p and IPS, it looks good to me, the stand is going to be some cheap shit. Is it fine? Will it fall apart in 2 years? I've only owned LG and samsung and they have worked very well for me. I'd like to buy LG, but it does not fit the budget with the same specs.

>>103025916
A direct upgrade with a used 5800X3D / RTX 3090 is a good idea? I currently have a 2600x and R570.

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>>103029838
yeah, I'm sure. all smart reading programs are sure too.
this is bullshit

>>103030058
>103030058
well its ips
it has shit contrast ratio and theres plenty of oled monitors with 360hz pushing around 600€
then theres pressure from miniled Va'

>>103030059
>used 5800X3D
brand new 5700x3d is $160-180 on aliexpress and 11.11 sale is about to start

>>103030059
the 3090 has the same gaming performance as 4070, the 3090 a highly sought after GPU for AI purposes due to the 24gb of vram.
So, you could just buy a 4060 or 6650 XT and it would fit perfectly with your 2600x, and it should give you 3x higher FPS.

>>103030096
>the 3090 has the same gaming performance as 4070
for some reason this is still mindblowing to me

>>103030096
I know, but I'm in LATAM so I'm kinda insulated from the LLM craze.

>>103030021
Im looking for a monitor in thix exact price class right now and it has some sus reviews. 4./5 stars overall with 61% 5 stars but it has an unusual amount of 1 stars at 15% and in the reviews ppl complain about dead pixels and others issues. Personally this one is not gonna be on my list for potential candidates

>>103029895
Breh, chuck the am4 build in the bin. Lets make some tweaks to you am5 build.
- Get 7950x or 7900x instead and save mad monies
- No B650s allowed. x870 pro rs wifi is the same price get that.
- No seasonic shit. Get Corsair RM850x or RM850e both ATX 3.1. If you can find Super flower leadex vii 850 with ATX 3.1 get that instead.
- Ram timing is atrocious, get better subtimings, sometihng 36-36-76 or something like that
- Why not Arctic liquid freezer III?
- Get a bunch of arctic fans
- Upgrade to 4080s with the saved monies
- You might also want a new high refresh rate monitor.

Need help building a pc that can run most if not all games at medium to high settings on a 1440p 144hz 27inch monitor whilst not heating up and being silent. I also plan on using a second monitor while gaming.1k euro budget, Balkanfrog

>>103030141
>run most if not all games at medium to high settings
lack of optimization these days is going to make that hard

>>103030141
you prob want to look at used gpus to save on cost, like a used 3080 or 4070 type stuff

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>>103030141
>1k euro budget
You'd pay 700bux in taxes, there are no 300bux PC so get lost.

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holy shit
why would anyone get the 7900X with this power conumption???
Just get the 7900 lmao
>verfication not requierd

>>103030130
Let me know what you are buying anon. I want two monitors. I have an old 4k 60hz monitor. If the new 1440p 240Hz is much better than the old one, I'll buy a new one if I can sell the old one.

>>103030126
If you can get a 3090 cheaper than a brand new 4070, then that's good.
I still think buying a new CPU is not necessary if you just scale down your GPU to a 4060 or 6650 XT (6600 XT), if you can find it for half the price of the 4070/3090 (you get around half the FPS).
Try running the game you have trouble running with a overlay, such as msi afterburner (maybe your AMD software has a way of showing CPU and GPU usage), or just use task manager, and just compare how slow large your bottleneck is. If your GPU is at 100% and your CPU is at 20%, that means you have a really good CPU but a really weak GPU.
Personally the used market for GPU's are typically terrible.
If buying new means you get a warranty and a 30 day return policy, always go for it even if it's 50% more expensive than used (but maybe LATAM does not get those benefits).

best bang/buck monitor arm stand?

>>103030229
facebook marketplace $5

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>KOORUI 24E3, MSI G2412F, MSI MAG 256F, MSI G244PF E2
so which one

>>103030219
You can buy a 7900x and run it in eco mode or you can buy a 7900 and overclock it. I'll go for the cheaper one. Since power here is kinda cheap, 7900x is not a problem for me.

>>103030245
i will fuck you in the ass

>>103030246
The cheapest at your location or the one that looks pretty to you or the brand that you like better.

>>103029300
it's light, ambidextrous, good tracking, unobtrusive software, onboard memory, fancy lights, feels good in the hand

dunno about durability since I just got it but it can't be worse than razer and it's relatively cheap

>>103030266
kys

>>103030219
And if you powerlimit it to 30W you still get like 75% of its full performance.
So yeah, get whichever is cheaper in your area.

>>103025925
Not even past proof. Consider 16GB as the absolute minimum.

>>103030252
>eco mode
>>103030286
>powerlimit it to 30W

how do you usually do that?
I never mess with CPU power settings.

>>103030309
>>eco mode
This you can do from bios. IDK about the wattage restriction.

>>103030283
>ambidextrous
I wonder why it doesn't has two extra buttons on the right side too since ambidextrous and everything.
but sounds really nice.

>>103030141
RX 7600 + Ryzen 7500F

>>103029895
>Maxed-out VR
Do not buy anything but x3d cpus. The issue is 7800x3d overpriced now and 9800x3d will be overpriced when it comes out in a week or so

>can go to the max of +2000MHz in Afterburner's memory OC, always with higher benchmark scores
wtf where are my error correcting regressions

>>103030265
free

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>buy picrel
>put it in computer
>computer doesn't see it
i just re-plugged in the connectors and restarted the computer and it still doesnt see it what am i doing wrong. it doesnt show in disk management so i cant initialize it

>>103030450
it's dead jim
high capacity drives usually have horrible reliability

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>>103030138
Thank you
>chuck the am4 build in the bin
That $2700 price point is killin me man
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3Xnbsh
Updated


>>103030411
Even though my Vive is from 2018ish?
Will the Ryzen 9 7950X suffice or is this going to be a stuttering / compatibility thing?

>>103030450
What version of OS?
Try connecting it to a known good port with a known good cable and report back.

>>103026050
Depends on what kind of games you play. When I ran Total War Shogun 2 for the first time with my new 5800X3D I was fucking amazed about how many soldiers I could suddenly field in battles without noticing any lag. NOT ANY LAG. Thanks to the magic of X3D. The cheaper 5700X3D would perform nearly the same. Get it and invest your hard-scammed bucks in better GPU, bigger M.2, more DDR4 instead of overpriced AM5. You get significantly more bang for the buck like this. I consider few fps more not worth double the money.

>>103030450
put it in the fridge for 2 hours

why did they skip 8000?

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Day 573 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.

>>103026107
The 5700X3D is dirt cheap and worth getting in any case. It will be useable for a very long time. I keep using my 5800X3D in the AM4 rig that I have in my vacation home and I expect it to be "good enough" for at least the next 5+ years.

>>103030616
>in my vacation home
woah there bud not all of us are millionaires

>>103029747
Availability of pirates titles is delayed after official releases quite a bit, unless you've done work to get into a private tracker which requires probably renting a seed box, using your own lan if your upload is decent, or waiting a very long time seeding shit if your upload isn't decent

>>103026168
Fans in top should always be exhaust. 200mm intake in front sounds cool but is rather ineffective. 2x140mm is much better.

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>>103030485
>>103030513
>>103030537
oh shit im just retarded. it has some "power disable feature" or some bullshit and long story short i just plugged it in using the sata cable it came with and now it works. before that i was using a sata cable i already had in my pc. since they're identical i assumed i could use mine but guess not.

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im tired of nvidia driver issues

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>>103030138
> recommending Corsair crap over Seasonic
You happen to work at some microcenter?

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I got picrel like a year ago in a sale for $62.
should I sell it and get something better or keep it?
Never had wireless mouse before and don't really need wireless one. Can I just keep it pluged in 4ever so I never have to care about the battery and inputlag?

>>103030141
> high settings
> 1440p
> 144hz
> ...and being silent
Are you wealthy? If not I have bad news for ya.

>>103030138
>Liquid cooling
Its over.

>>103030772
if they want silent, they need a 7900gre hellhound gpu.

>>103030141
> a second monitor while gaming.1k euro budget
1k for the monitor alone, right, RIGHT?

>>103030495
9950x is 7950x but worse power consumption. 7950x is enough anon.

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>>103030782
>they

>>103029994
yeah, about that. I've been planning to finally update bios and tweak ram timings.
For the last 14 months or so.
yeah, maybe this weekend...

>>103030732
I'm tired of Nvidia's software being a steaming pile of shit
>control panel is slow and old but at least works
>nvidia memes need either GFE which is locked behind a niggergoy account or the new Nvidia app which phones home literally every second according to my firewall logs, also full of bugs since it's a beta
AMD's software didn't had this degree of cancer

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>>103030817
gotchu covered

>>103030782
What's the difference between hellhound and fighter?

>>103030495
850w should be enough. Am5, only two sticks allowed. Also, see if WD black sn850x is cheaper. Get that instead.

7900x and 4070s ti, if you want cheaper. But your current build is kinda perfect if you remove one set of RAM.

>>103030639
You need not be a millionaire to operate economically, dude! The 5700X3D is a good recommendation for anybody who already has a AM4 platform. Don't waste precious capital on the very lastest gimmicks and one day you might be able to afford a vacation home.

>>103030495
Also try a cheaper brand graphics card. Like pny or something, it's all the same.

>>103030834
I get the impression that you didn't use NVCleanstall, mate.
https://www.techpowerup.com/download/techpowerup-nvcleanstall/

I'm here to help you...

>>103030732
Nice trolling
https://desuarchive.org/g/search/image/VVVQlZEqIT4FeSLaUp4tnQ/

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>>103030991
im tired of nvidia driver issues

>>103030986
Of course I did, while NVCleanstall gets rid of the telemetry you can't use stuff like Instant Replays without the bloat of GFE or Nvidia's new app.

>>103030495
> https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3Xnbsh
You are planning to mix G.Skill and Corsair RAM kits? For what reason?

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>>103031011
>invalid command sent by the application
>a driver issue
>not the sending application's issue

>>103030495
>Even though my Vive is from 2018ish?
Yes. 7800x3d is still the best gaming cpu until 9800x3d comes out. 3d-cache is just too good.

Check https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3VZhDZ
Change mobo to x870 if you absolutely need pcie 5.0 for some reason
Also ram is a placeholder, I cba checking if it's hynix a-die one or not

>>103030820
it was painless, saved my quick fan profile, put on expo 1 for RAM, put default pbo settings I had back on (pbo on, defaults, curve optimizer, all core negative 30, which is an undervolt technically with lower temps/higher boost clocks)

pbo isnt even needed but it runs slightly better with it. not using x3d turbo mode till I know exactly what it does plus the 7800x3D is fast as hell without it. Funny thing is I had a windows bug but it was because I forgot to change the primary boot drive to C: so I had a bluescreen (was trying to load off my other drive). Works perfectly fine.

Previous bios was a year old and the new agesa stuff makes latency even better so it was worth an upgrade, plus it's 9800x3D ready (probably not worth it over 7800x3D but we'll see.)

>>103031054
> use stuff like Instant Replays
Oh dear! And AMD provides this Instant Replay gimmick in a lean and comfortable software package?

Is 7900xtx a good buy? Or two 7900gres? Or, is 4080s vastly better than xtx? For llms and shiet on loonix.

>>103031175
if you are doing anything AI related, you want CUDA. AMD works but Nvidia is the way for AI apps/generating waifus.

>>103031159
Well yeah in the same software that handles everything else including OC, you could even bind it to a single key unlike Nvidia's app.

>>103031258
Loonix though?

>>103031330
you already know the answer

>>103031159
>gimmick
nigga shadowplay and whatever the amd alternative is are great features
only sounds like a gimmick if you're some friendless autismo without anybody to share stuff with

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>>103025916
>16:10
>4K (3860x2400)
>240Hz
>24"
Why is there no monitor that has these specs?

>>103031175
wait for 50 series and check benchmarks for llm.
I doubt there would be a huge difference with 40 series (prob just 30% faster), but prices might be reasonable if you are lucky.
if you are silly you could buy a 2080 ti 22gb from AliExpress.
It's not worth it for gaming, it's the same as a 4060 in fps and a 4070 should be 2x faster.
4070 TI super might be a middle ground.
The 5090 is tempting but it's very likely in 2 years they will release a 48gb version of the 5090 using new chips (you will pay 30% more speed for the GPU, other than LLM the only reason to want 48gb is for AI video, and that's the minimum requirement for a 5 second 720p video, it's going to look like shit). Note that a 48gb 5090 is going to be like 30% faster than 2 3090's in LLM (mainly the gddr6x to gddr7 upgrade), but you can't use multiple GPU's for AI image and I doubt for AI video as well.
Some benchmarks:
https://github.com/XiongjieDai/GPU-Benchmarks-on-LLM-Inference
Honestly I use google colab for LLM so for me any GPU with 16gb of vram is worthless to me, but you need to be super autistic to use google colab. I also use LM studio with 6gb 1660 ti, if I don't mind the tiny context size, it's perfectly fine for 8B q6 models, I need colab to load 12B Q8 models.
>google spys on you
maybe? If they were invading my privacy I hope they get sued so I can get free money.

>>103031401
The antichrist hates the golden ratio.

>>103031159
So lean and gullible. You'd better come over to my house, marketeer

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give it to me straight doc, is my GPU fucked

is getting the gpu + monitor for 1080 to 1440p worth it? half the advice i see suggests it is bullshit, others swear up and down they'll never go back

>>103031429
Looks like a pad wasn't properly tinned and the copper corroded as a consequence, but it doesn't look like any parts were ripped off in the first place (the opposite pad to the corroded pad, the one with the Q524, is properly tinned).

Is my assessment correct, that no SMD were sitting on any of those pads? If so, you're fine.

>>103031128
I wish I could muster the balls to update my bios. It's things like using the right flash drive or worrying about the right files that drive me up the wall. I always get damn anxious at the thought of messing up the mobo or bricking it.

>>103031432
well any modern ish gpu will run games at 1440p if you do console like settings and use upscalers
then with 1440p comes 27" monitors and they're way better and usable than 24"

>>103031432
60fps to 180fps is a big difference in QoL.
no you don't need a new monitor if your 1080p monitor is already 144hz.
If you go with 1440p, why not spend a little more and get a mini-led monitor for those dark blacks? none of the 1080p monitors support mini-led.

What is more worthwhile: Getting 48 GB (2x 24GB) Vengeance Corsair DDR5 RAM 5200 CL or G-SKILL 32 GB (2x 16 GB) DDR5 RAM, but it has 6000CL

Is the CL difference enough to make up for the lack of 16 GB

>>103031454
do I need to worry about the corrosion itself spreading though? I've cleaned it with some Isopropanol the best I can.

>>103031432
It's a straight upgrade but the value you get out of it is completely subjective. I like it myself but I'm not a big AAA gamer so I don't need a $600+ card to get good FPS. If dropping $1500 on a PC is not something you can reasonably do then stick to 1080p for now.

>>103031479
What is the PC for?

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>>103031479
You'd know if you needed 48gb of ram
the fact you're asking shows that you, just like 90-95% of people do not need it
I rarely go over 20 and I don't care about how many programs I have open at all

5200->6000 is a BIG difference, especially on amd.
I just looked at a couple of benchmarks & it's like a 20-25% difference in 1% lows, that's HUGE

>>103031476
I hate that there aren't any 1440p 32" minileds or even oleds. If I'm going to upgrade I want to UPGRADE, and that ppi is what I'm already used to.

>>103031519
>It's a straight upgrade
I mean not if it's your only monitor as it'd make full screen media most likely look worse, since most common media is meant for 1080p or 4K, as such you'll either upscale it in a blurry fashion or be forced to use windowed mode/have black border around it

>>103031509
Get an soldering iron, soldering paste (removes corrosion), unleaded tin, and tin the pad yourself, there's plenty guides on youtube.
For the exposed trace there, get some clear nail polish and cover it (don't cover the pads).

Also tell anyone who tells you to just use leaded solder to fuck themselves right in the pooper, if you're ever going to use the oven method you'll poison yourself with you use leaded tin.

>>103031549
Yeah that is a downside I suppose. Though 1440p, never mind 1080p, aren't really in the running for a cinephile setup.

>>103030834
>control panel is slow
I built a retro PC, can confirm this is a new issue
the old control panel is snappy on windows xp

>>103031615
I'd rather use 1080p over 1440p for that reason
For dual setup, yes, 4k+1440p is the best setup

>>103031463
just hit update and ignore your pc, the only time it's unsafe to bios update is a bad storm where power might cut out. it takes a few minutes, no big deal.

>>103031590
There does exist low melt solder without lead, but lead solder is much better than high temp unleaded solder.
I don't think you will actually get poisoned by using leaded solder in an oven, our ancestors used to drink from lead cups and they turned out fine.

>>103031630
Not to diminish your preferences but that seems like a rather rare use-case. Or rather, it being the primary use is rare - most of us build for gaming or work first.

>>103031527
Gaming mostly, some video editing here and there.

>>103031533
Ok, ok, good numbers. The prices are pretty much the same, so I wanted some numbers just like that, yes.

>>103031684
>Gaming mostly, some video editing here and there.
Yeah I'd stick to 32GB@6000C30. You may page occasionally on larger editing projects but gaming perf is the primary goal. If you're getting paid to edit those videos you might want to run the numbers on a 6000C30 48GB kit, too.

>>103031642
>our ancestors used to drink from lead cups and they turned out fine.
They quite literally did not.

>>103031676
I'd personally just have higher framerate on lower resolution and no downside than lower framerate on higher resolution AND media looking like shit
I feel like without that downside they're a more fair comparison. Obviously if you got the extra resolution for free, that makes 1440p a lot more appealing, but running it at 1440p will usually give you quite a bit less frames (unless you use fake resolution)

>>103031642
>>103031745
you vill inhale ze fumes

>>103030882
afaik only the bios switch and LEDs

>>103031726
Nah, personal projects. The jump to a 6000C 48GB kit right now will blow my current budget. Thanks for the info.

>>103031745
just like lead pipes, the water they drank had a lot of minerals and it created a oxide around the lead, just like the water you drink from most water pipes.

new beead?

>>103027125
Oem chips

>>103032042
no more bread. nobody is baking anything so we can't eat anything

>>103030450
Probably jumpers, if it is an enterprise drive they have some stuff for RAID/Host Bus Adapter things that need to be changed. Or maybe it requires something with the power cable... iiirc.

https://forums.unraid.net/topic/84038-so-your-new-sas-or-sata-drive-wont-start-spin-up/

>>103032723
>>103032723
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