There's always worse. There's always ALSA.
>>103093936GNU[+/]Linux is a server OS and servers rarely need audio. when they do, one provided through ALSA is sufficient.GNU[+/]Linux is a server OS. you are an Indian if you use it as a personal desktop
>>103093936There is unironically nothing wrong with Pulseaudio and Pipewire.
>>103093974but some people still for le>minimalismmeme and end up using raw alsa. In the end it's a frustrating experience. They try to cope by writing scripts but no matter what they do their system is still inferior compared to what they could have if they had just installed pipewire. As a last resort they shit on linux audio and complain about how shit and unusable it is despite this all being their own fault
>>103093974Midwit
>>103093967fuck u i use alpine my system is a nongnu+linux system
>>103093936I wrote code for ALSA. did you?
>>103094562no wonder ALSA is so shit. kys
>>103093936Alsa is the just the driver layerI am still using pulseaudio which sits on top of Alsa, and thing works great, not a single problem for 10 years now >bluetooth audio>rtp audio over network>creating null monitors so that I can record specific program outputseverything is fine. you just need to get gud and lurk more
>>103093967>GNU[+/]Linux is a server OS
>>103093936alsa > pipewire > no audio > dogshit > pulseaudio
>>103094660skill issue
>>103094660True but sndio blows them all away. It's available for Linux now too.
>>103094660Last time I installed pipewire firefox made no sound. Installing pulseaudio fixed the issue
>>103093936Linux makes a lot more sense, I find, if you accept the premise that Linux developers are still trying to figure out the basic shit that Apple and Microsoft settled decades ago.
>>103094578why not pipewire tho, you can still use pacmd and do everything the same way, but with seamless jack integration (everything is duplicated across the server, there is no need for dedicated jack sinks if you're piping to ardour or from hydrogen for instance)
>>103093974every single person who does audio production would rather shoot himself than use Linux for work. This is because of the audio stack
>>103094185>Midwitthis makes no sense. There is unironically nothing wrong with Pulseaudio and Pipewire. What's your problem specifically? describe it on a technical level. you won't
>>103093974the op was a comment i had made in the context of JACK, not those 2
>>103094562sorry i dont like being suicidal>>103094578this is a larp. you are larping. i dont know a single person for which it works irl>>103094660in regards to stability, writing to well documented devices manually > pipewire > jack > pulseaudio > alsa>>103094876name one thing the kernel devs havent figured out that:a) matters, and;b) doesn't have a better solutionthat they're trying to figure out in 2024
>>103093967GNU/* is a retarded OS for people loving abandonware crashing and their libc using malloc more than a browser. The only good GNU component is GNU grep due to it's performance.
>>103093967The steady advance of technology means that we are moving back to servers being optimal, which means that having machines be interoperable is optimal, which rules out Windows and Mac that are more concerned with sabotage and behavior manipulation that results in keeping users exclusively on their OS and ecosystem, rather than offering a steady server solution that integrates well.So regardless of whether Linux is primarily a server OS, it is going to have to pull duty as a desktop OS as well since neither Windows nor Mac can do both.
>>103095388Considering the vast majority of modern applications now use 3 tier client-server (minimum 2 tier) architecture on the local machine (communicating over sockets and protocols like http), linux has become incredibly well suited for hosting and especially developing modern desktop applications.
>>103095388moot's mac mini cluster:
>>103094660/threadALSA is alway going to be king because it's the simplest native API for audio on Linux
>>103094660oss > alsa
>>103093936
>>103094660This.ALSA is ideal, but Pipewire is based for killing off Poetteringware.
>>103093936Try the Liquorix kernel, it worked for me
>>103095243This is correct
>>103097331Poeterring is hated because he's more competent than 100% of /g/.
>>103097720Do you cum when he fists you?
>>103097730Yes.
>>103097897You're a disgrace
>>103098039You sound jealous of our beautiful & poetic love story
>>103097720he isnt. pottering has a tmpfiles utility that isnt for tmpfiles and had a command fo wipe your homedir.
>>103095248I'm not using a software made by a CIA agent, simple as. ALSA worked well enough
>>103101229ALSA has MI5 contributors contributing on their public-facing "non-fed" identities
