>NOOOOOO OLD THING GOOD1!!!1!!You chuds are holding everyone back
Nuh uh
>>103119731It's not 'old thing good' or 'new thing bad'It's blue light is bad at night.LEDs can be made to have minimal blue and no UV output, have a warm tone and have good cri.But boomers think blue == future
>>103119731I think it's a nostalgia and aesthetics thing, doubt many think the old lights were genuinely better>>103119744How is it bad
>>103119744Our eyes evolved for blue light, the purpose of lighting is to see shit
>>103119744>blue light is bad at nightThat's a good thing because it reduces the chances of a driver falling asleep behind the wheel.If you're already tired and sleep deprived, and you have to drive, you definitely don't want a comfy warm light to make things worse.When you do actually want to sleep, and you've just been outside, it can reduce the quality of your sleep a bit (nothing compared to merely using your phone, which almost everyone does within the 1 or 2 hours before bed) but that's a preferable drawback to the increased risk of accidents that warm lights bring.
>>103119731
>>103119753https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/blue-light-has-a-dark-sidehttps://www.webmd.com/sleep-disorders/sleep-blue-lighthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_effects_of_high-energy_visible_lightIn short, we're not evolved for blue light at night, it increases attention and disturbs sleep. We've adapted to red light due to fire. Green, despite being the mod sensitive (and can be detected by both rods and the green cone) is far less of a problem than blue light.It's why monitors have blue light filter functions and most OS'es have a 'night light' feature. You want blue during the day though, work spaces should be 6500K or even 8000K.Living spaces ~4000KBedrooms ~2700K.Street lights should probably be around 3200K, not 6500K.
>>103119780Except it screws up nightvision and allows you to see less if there is a transition from dark to light. Might be good for city centers to be this way where there's a street lamp every so many feet, although even that is debatable because dark alleys etc.
>>103119744Blue light is good for traffic, retard. You WANT it to keep your mind alert.
>>103119801Do you see any traffic on those streets?Major Highways that are busy 24/7, sure.Residential streets, no.
>>103119801Street lights are for pedestrians. Cars have headlights dungus.
>>103119797>it increases attention and disturbs sleepSo literally what people should have when driving at night then.
>>103119810Headlights have a very specific field of vision so they don't just spray light and blind every other driver or person on the street, which is why using highbeams is not allowed in highly urban areas.Streetlights in my city are the blue kind on freeways and major roads, but then the amber/orange type on smaller streets and areas that have houses rather than businesses and large amounts of traffic. They're all LED too, but just with specific choices for the light temp.
>>103119731oh boy light pollution good
>>103119799How big is that reduction?Is it enough to make up for how much better you see at any other time?And in any case it does lead to fewer accidents, so the discussion is kinda moot here.
>>103119797How about you just close your curtains and the issue of street light is solved. Those linked articles are more concerned about screens, not street lights. They even note about blue light>boost attention, reaction times, and moodFirst two out of those, in addition to simply better visibility are big reasons why they are used to light the streets where especially when driving it's crucial you are attentative and have good reaction times.
>>103119848How about you put your headlights on and we turn the street lights off entirely. Get some actual night sky back.
>>103119731You picked a bad example for yellow light, retard.
>>103119810>Cars have headlights dungus.Retards are allowed to own cars, they don't control public lighting (aside from crashing into it). Streetlights are a decent safety tool.
>>103119855Headlights are nowhere near adequate for the job, unfortunately. If you want to see more of the night sky then you'll need to go away from cities and major roads. That's just how it is
>>103119731Souless vs soul.
>>103119731>>103119753Old lights are literally better. Even if LED is brighter, bright light was never the main requirement.Sodium lamps are monochromatic and thus produce a better contrast on objects illuminated by that light. For /g/ dimwits without a license, this means that under monochromatic light, drivers and cyclists are able to better see objects hidden in the shadows. That's the reason why people indulging in snow sports often wear yellow glasses. But who cares about the kid tat got run over because the driver was blinded by the white LED light and wasn't able to see shit because of the shitty contrast, as long as the kids brain matter has good color representation, right?
>>103119731RED lights keep the streets safe.
>>103120054>being blinded by a fucking streetlightnot everyone is a vampire, lil bro
>>103119731the new LED light poles have to provide enough white and IR light for the cameras>>103120065true
>>103119731We need LED lights and increased immigration.New thing good.
>>103120079>the new LED light poles have to provide enough white and IR light for the camerasAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
They converted all the lights where i am and within 3 months they all died and they changed them all back
>>103120195>ironic shitposting about how much he hates new thing>still an aifag
>>103120054Do you have something to back this up in real world scenarios?
>>103119744the decision isnt made by gut feelings, its made by moneynormal ones are cheaper
>>103120317AI has been around for a long timeexcept now it's on computers
>>103120341Shit man, did an AI feed you that slop too?
>>103120054So are there studies that prove the superiority of orange in reaction times or object recognition speed?
>>103119744>LEDs can be made to have minimal blue and no UV output...... with loss of efficiency.
>>103120418Loss of efficiency to the point where sodium lamps are more efficient?
>>103120054>Sodium lamps are monochromaticAs are non-white LEDs
>>103120432Ofc not but it's complicated since sensitivity of human eye to different wave lengths also comes in play.
>>103119787kek
>>103119731>NOOOOO NEW THING GOODyou cock sucker are worse
>>103119731They are both trash, left is too clinical and cold, right is dreary and you can't see shit, pic related is a good compromise
>>103120572I like the ones that cycles through different colours. But those aren't really suitable for regular lighting, more for just some visual flair
I always thought those orange lights looked souless and depressing. Specially while going to school at 7:30 in winter while all the lights were still on. At least white light looks more aesthetic.
>>103120054>monochromatic and thus produce a better contraststop saying retarded things
>>103120054
>>103119744you forgot flicker flicker makes you sick
>>103119731It should be bright blue for maximum cyberpunk.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1854546155381617119
>>103120744I don't get it
>>103120771Republicans are always surprised that cities hold a lot of people.
>>103120783I don't think that's how it works
>>103120783Land doesn't vote, or rather it shouldn't
>>103120432The efficiency of sodium increases the higher the wattage. At the moment, Phosphor Converted Amber LEDs can only achieve comparable efficiency at lower wattages. >>103120464Narrowband Amber LEDs are inefficient and unreliable at the moment. SOX is still the king of monochrome.
>>103120714I don't think I've ever seen functional streetlights flicker, and I say this as an autist who spergs out at PWM screens and flickery consumer lighting.
>>103119797>work spaces should be 6500K or even 8000KRetard.Nobody, outside of niche specialist use cases, should use anything above 4000K for general lighting.
>>103120464>As are the LEDs that no city in this world usesAnd where is your argument? /g/ is the dumbest board on this planet>>103120627It's true and if you neither have the skills to type in one sentence into Google nor have the capacity to think for yourself for a second, you should consider roping yourself.
>>103120592>We shouldn't use the technically superior one which is better for many usecases but only the one that appeals to my sense of aesthetics.
>>103121378>which is better for many usecasesSuch as?
>>103120054>But who cares about the kid tat got run over because the driver was blinded by the white LED light and wasn't able to see shit because of the shitty contrast, as long as the kids brain matter has good color representation, right?I love that you've been saying this same shit in these threads for years now.
>>103119731>1!!!1!!you have a loose contact on your shift key anon
Why are there even street lights?
sodium lights are nice. makes night time feel warmer.
>>103120572sovl
>>103120572soveeeeeeeeeeeeeeel fahveeel
>>103119731Right has a mood.Left looks soulless.
>>103119731>With soul>Without soul
>>103119731>NOOOOO NEW THING GOOD!!!1!!1!!!>YOU CHUDS ARE HOLDING US ALL BACK!!!!!111!!!
>>103119731You have no idea how much I hate light pollution.
>>103119797>repeating the blue light being bad meme in 2024this is just something that grandma tells you to stop you from using your phonefuck off retard, cant handle a little bit of light
>>103121887use this as a background, for a week, and you'll see the difference in your productivityblue light really does change alot
>>103121996>productivityyoure right i just made it my background and i have already printed 200 different papers on evolution, my computer started mining eth much more efficiently too, im doubling the amount of money i make
>>103121756>trust the science
>>103122112good, working as intended>>103122124yeahexcept the whole process of science is being skeptical about things, especially other's findingsmaybe npc should trust the science more, and stop intervening like its a religion or something
>>103119780>If you're already tired and sleep deprived, and you have to drive,shut up retard>>103119797all junk btw. blue light is bs>>103119834this is what the primary concern for street lighting should be. the monochromatic orange light allowed useful light for those who need it without disturbing others.>>103120418monochromatic leds that don't piss around with phosphor are the most efficient lighting. an orange led is significantly more efficient than a white led>>103120432sodium lamps are extremely efficient because of their narrow wavelength.>>103120592couldn't be more incorrect. white lighting to mimic the daytime sun is what is soulless. there should be some attempt at demarcation between night and day. night time should not try to mimic day time. they want to get rid of nigh ttime all together. lets keep it sacred.
>>103119731>left: actual visibility>right: hell vision
Who gives a shit, stop making these threads
>>103122210>shut up retard>all junk btw. blue light is bsNo one who's not a deranged retard would ever make this post.
>>103119797>>103119797>it increases attention and disturbs sleephow is this bad when driving at night you absolute retard
>>103122210>monochromatic leds that don't piss around with phosphor are the most efficient lighting.Completely false. Narrowband amber LEDs are nowhere near sodium efficiency yet.>sodium lamps are extremely efficient because of their narrow wavelength.Sodium lamps are not efficient "because" of their wavelength.
>>103119834I sure love having to own heavy curtain because the city put a bright as the sun LED light right outside my house!And I live in the middle of nowhere...
LED streetlights goodLED headlights bad
>>103119731>2 completely different areas being compared under the same lighting
>before>uniform contrast gradient and single spectrumThis helps our weak night vision separate shadow from bright and allows the peripheral vision to detect motion easier>low kelvin/frequencyThis maintains night vision and disturbs sleeping people lessinb4>curtains!Yeah man cus those are perfect.>better spread of light coverageobvious benefit>after>wide spectrum, point source, high blue spectrum contentBasically destroys all of those lighting qualities.>but they can use better leds!>but reflector and spreader designs>but blahblahblahThis is government we're talking about. The LED installation they put up 10 years ago is on contract and will be using the same parts for another 15 years.And aside from that it can never fix the loss of low K color night vision/low sleep disturbance.There's a reason we call you people Cityots, city idiots.
we're just returning to tradition. mercury vapor >>> sodium vapor
>>103122516fuck that zoomer crapwe need to go back to arc lamps
This thread is an led industry psyop in response to the last four thread. Be careful and remember that LED is a thing for nigger third world>>103120572This is a defective LED. An LED in its natural state
>>103122573definitely
>>103122573Only if we put up filters on the bulbs. I really don’t want a sunburn at night
>>103122905glass blocks UV so you'd be fine
>>103121886t. astronomer
>>103122915Not 100percent, and only UVB.UVA is more carcinogenic and optically damaging
>>103119731the brighter the foreground is, the darker the background is.
>>103122968No, UV-C is the really damaging one. And normal glass blocks it completely.
>>103123019I must have been mistaken. I will still miss the sodium lamps. Very nostalgic and easier on the eyes
>>103119731As a city faggot, LEDs are the only reason I can leave my building at night. It’s actually safe to walk outside despite the homeless people and crackheads, because I know they won’t do anything stupid. But if you go to any neighborhood that still has old lights, your life is basically forfeit. America doesn’t have quality social values so we have to force people to behave, and it works.
>>103119731Not wonder all of your zoom-zooms are already on meds.
>>103123126Isn't this an issue over the amount of light, rather than what colour it is?
>>103119731FTFYWarm white LEDs exist you know
>>103123271Shame practically nobody uses warm LEDs for street lighting
>>103119731Ideally you'd want blue lights for car roads and warmer lights for pedestrians, at least that's what I've been told about a decade ago from a civil engineer when talking about this kind of things, not sure if the paradigm shifted since then or it's just cheaper to standardize things probably both desu
>>103123261Not him but it's obviously a matter of visibility, which can be increased or decreased by changing the intensity of the light, as well as its color.At their typical intensity, warm lights offer worse visibility than the typical white ones, so in his case, an orange-lit street has low enough visibility to commit crimes, but a white-lit one is almost like daylight and will deter a good portion of would be criminals from committing crimes.
>>103122504Can you provide any proofs for what you said
>>103123795see>>103123848
>>103123898Shamefur dispray
>>103123848Do you want proof for white illumination giving better visibility than incandescent, or that there's more crime in dimly-lit streets?
>>103123941If you really want to know, hitting enter unexpectedly submitted my post before I was ready to submit it
>>103120818npcs shouldnt vote
>>103123955I want proof for:>warm lights offer worse visibility than the typical white ones
>>103122959not being able to see the stars at night fucks humans up psychologically, it's one of many reasons urbanites are mentally ill
>>103123955Happy if the claims in this comment >>103122504 are shown to be true
>>103124046The proof is a working set of eyes you blind retard
>>103124070reminds me of Nightfall, a short story by Isaac Asimov about pretty much this.
>>103124213Okay, no proof then, got it.
>nooo blue leds are actually worse for drivingWhat is this even based on?
>>103124236Here's your proof:>>103119731>>103119787>>103122581>>103123271Now, do you have any evidence that the typical street lit by incandescent light has equal or higher visibility when compared to the typical white led-lit street?
>>103124723Something about white light having more glare, higher potential to (temporarily) blind people, reduced contrast compared to yellow, more likely to cause eyestrain
>>103124777>street lit by incandescent lightlmao i'm glad you outed yourself as a retard, i may have actually taken your shitty bait otherwise
>>103119744>>103119797>being dumb enough to fall for the blue light studiesYep, being an orange light simp correlates with being low IQ. I bet you think soi decreases testosterone because you saw a post on 4chan claiming so.
>>103121405Appealing to his nostalgia in the most pathetic way possible, obviously. Imagine, instead of being nostalgic for better times, better economies, being able to have fun times playing with friends, you're nostalgic for the color of the street lights outside. It must mean a lack of other things in his childhood worth remembering fondly, or that he had no friends.
>>103124808Okay, no proof then, got it.
>>103124783Are these studied things where it was shown to counter the effect from just having better, clearer light? Because we've seen a lot of claims but I'm wondering if there's something there
>>103123271Pic on the right unironically looks better
>>103124777>incandescent light Nobody ever mentioned incandescent. Incandescent is not widely used for street lighting. It's all sodium, metal halide, or LED.
>>103125520I got the name wrong but you know exactly what I'm referring to. Pretend I said "the lighting on the right" in reference to the OP pic and the point still stands.
All street lights should be pure red like emergency lightingProve me wrong (you can't)
>>103119780It ruins EVERYONE'S circadian rhythm, making EVERYONE on the road sleep deprived.>>1031203361. So that's why all the new LED street lights break and flicker after a few months.2. Cars already have brights. No street lights is cheaper.
The game should let me place enough thrusters on Nauvis to simply just move it around instead of relying on dinky platforms
>>103119731That's not a correct illustration of how it looks. google "white balance".sage for misinfo
>>103126015>It ruins EVERYONE'S circadian rhythm, making EVERYONE on the road sleep deprivedNot as much as the phones that everyone looks at before going to bed anyway.Also, what are curtains, blinds, etc?
>>103126015>It ruins EVERYONE'S circadian rhythm, making EVERYONE on the road sleep deprived.Are there any studies on the effect of blue street light on attentiveness while driving? What someone posted before seemed to say the opposite >>103119797>boost attention, reaction times, and mood
>>103119731>prison yard vs comfy campfire vibes
>>103119780>>103119801>Drivers crash at night because of heavy drinking after clubbing>hmmm ackchully it's because the lights made them sleepy!
>>103126015Name one (1) person whose circadium rhythm is affected by street lamps not being the shitty orange ones from your childhood. You won't, because you can't.
>>103126113>every crash is because of drunk drivingBiggest fucking retard on the Internet right here.
>>103122404narrow wavelength doesn't use significantly less energy than wide wavelength? for the same perceived visual performance ability of a person?of course it does
>>103119758You are a retardIT'S NIGHT TIMEYOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO SEE BLUE LIGHT AT NIGHTIT DISRUPTS YOUR CIRCADIAN RHYTHMDUMBASS>niggers ITT don't use a red light filter on their monitors at night
>>103126276Good. I don't want to be sleepy when driving at night.
right: soul
>>103119731So many good arguments in this thread, but I'll offer a simple one: Humans have much more (~50%) cone cells that can detect red light, making it the most visible color. Our pupils also dilate in response to low light conditions, allowing more light to come in; however, blue light causes our pupils to be more constricted than red light. Simply put, we can see better at night with red lights.
>>103126310And then when you get home you won't be able to sleep as easy and fuck your sleep up and become sleep deprived. Great idea, retard
>>103126344You sure you're not confusing red with green?
Why are you driving at night anyways
>>103126356The disruption caused by white street lights is nothing compared to the disruption caused by looking at your phone, which activates your ganglion cells far more by virtue of being closer to your face.Not to mention how most people use it right in bed as they go to sleep, in many cases right up to the very last second before they fall asleep.If you're concerned about white lights you can drive with glasses that block blue light.
>>103126360Shut the fuck up Emmanuele.
>>103126276Close your curtains
>>103126381>retard doesn't use redlight filter
>>103126385I accept your concession
>>103126344From up in the thread >>103119797>Your eyes aren’t good at blocking blue light. So almost all of it passes straight through to the back of your retina, which helps your brain translate light into images.
>>103126391>close curtains>go outside at night>white light floods eyesDurrr I closed my curtains! durrr
>>103126412>Oh no I can't fall asleep walking outsidekek
>>103119731yellow light looks way better than blue light and you can still see everything you could see with the blue light
>>103126404It's a meme you dip
>>103126419sorry I'm not up to date on your hip tiktok maymays
Thank fuck over here they use the comfy orange LEDs near houses and the eyerape white ones in larger roads.Though there's something weird about these new LEDs. They seem blinding but at the same time illuminate fuckall.It's like the light dissipates in a different way or isn't directed towards the ground optimally. They need to redesign the reflectors, not really sure if they even have any.
>>103119731One of the great features of sodium lights is the very narrow spectrum of light they produce is purfectly filtered by didymium camera filters. So movie and still photographers could make the lights go away easily. Light your nighttime scene the way you want and add the filter to take ALL the unwanted streetlight sighting out.can't do that with LEDs, so lighting a night scene has become much more difficult and expensive.
>>103126401I never said that you goal-post moving dumbass. I'm not talking about me or you specifically (notice how I said "most people" and "in many cases"), but about the population as a whole, since this affects all drivers, including those who may be driving tired at night next to you on the same road. Wouldn't you want them to be as attentive as possible to reduce the risk of being involved in an accident caused by their sleepiness?Not to mention the significantly increased visibility.The sleep disruption is very minor in comparison.
>>103126425You're on /g/ and you haven't seen the use case memes?Captcha: NGOYG
>>103126416>night>close curtains>have to go do somethings out side before goto bed>whitelight floods eyes for couple of hours>body now thinks it's 10AM in the morning even though closed curtains??!!!?!??>go back inside>try to go to sleep>can't>miss couple of hours of sleep>sleep in>late for work again>get fired>can't pay mortgage on house>lose house>become jobless hobo>wife leaves you>die of aids on the streets
>>1031264541- it's not that significant2- melatonin gummies will undo all of it and then some
>>103126153Sodium lamps are efficient because sodium, under certain conditions, happens to emit a lot of light, relative to the amount of electricity it is given. There is nothing inherently "efficient" or causal about the wavelength that it happens to produce.
>>103126454>have to go do somethings out side before goto bed>whitelight floods eyes for couple of hours>miss couple of hours of sleepIt's a bummer, you used to be able to go outside for a couple of hours and just sleep through it. Now you have to be awake for that time
Jokes aside, it would be really intetesting to see if there's been any studies about how LED street lights affect sleep. I don't think any have been posted here, it's all just claims from anons. Wouldn't mind having something more concrete tbqh
>>103126513When you're homeless and dying of aids on the street, just remember, you chose this
>>103120432Some anon posted a pic with efficiency comparison in a similar thread.If i remember correctly yes, they are more efficient than non blueish leds
>>103126531Hell yeah
>muh nostalgia is more important then keeping women safe from tyroneok /g/
>>103120572>>103121707>>103121660>>103120585It looks cool but it's not a good thing.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Mll-YDDAF4
>>103126567>safe fromtopkek
>>103126573A park next to a church near me has purple lights (on purpose). Gives it a really cool, a bit eerie vibe
>>103126573Holy fuck the comments."""they""" are marking unvaxes blue
>>103119797Best post. I don't get how so many people are unironically defending blue lights at night.
>>103126598It's ok if it's by design but not when the phosphor is melting off the leds.It also provides worse visibility for cars if i'm not mistaken
>>103126625Because the things in that post are desirable for reasons extensively detailed in the thread
>>103119731I like both.
>>103122140Quantitative science is for retards who can no longer feel God's presence who want to try and build a new Tower of Babel.
Wheres the slingshot anon explaining these lights increase crime rates?
>>103119731LED lighting doesn't work as well in colder climates where snowfall occurs
>>103119731the effect on the environment (particularly insects) you dumb fucking NIGGER
>>103126512They use CIE 191: by including blue light, the center of each street light can use less power. But they make a mistake. Now there are much darker gaps between street lights, because the blue light interferes with eyes adapting to darkness. Extra posts will be very expensive and different fixtures with wider beams of light will cause more problems by blinding drivers. The best solution is to pretend there is no problem and anyone who complains is crazy.
>>103119731White LEDs are eyerape especially headlights
>have efficient, attractive lighting that is produced either domestically or by friendly nations>replace it with slightly less efficient, radically less attractive, unreliable slop that is produced only by a hostile foreign nation, and fucks with wildlife and people's moods and circadian rhythmNEW GOOD
>>103122361there's more to life than carbrain
>>103119758>Our eyes heckin' EVOOOLLLLVED am I right my fellow naked ape?Evolution is fake and retarded, like (You).
>>103128154enjoy living in an operating room
>>103126618>(((They))) are using purple lights to identify the vaccinatedKek Youtube comments always deliver
>>103128149There won't be if you get caught by a sleepy driver who crashes full speed into your car because the orange light was too comfy and made him less attentive.
>>103129989where is the evidence?
>>103130025Of what?
>>103120572Perhaps it's time to go the full /CyberPunk/
>>103119731Most LEDs are shit for your peripheral vision which is important for seeing movement.You might be fooled into thinking that you see more because it's so bright, but you see substantially less than you would under a sodium vapor lamp because your brain has less info to work with to fill in the gaps of your rapid eye movement foveal vision.A photograph is very misleading when it comes to portraying this, but most of the morons making these decisions are making them based on power point presentations. It is quite typical for the spread of white LEDs to stop as soon as they actually start intruding into areas frequented by the morons who got swindled into adding them.>>103119780It's actually worse for driving a car due to the heavy tunnel vision. As soon as you start driving moderately fast you lose all of the benefits of those white LEDs and effectively lose sight of important information in your periphery, which includes things like wildlife, parked cars, pedestrians, cyclists, etc..
>>103119780>exhausted goyim slaves falling asleep at the wheel because of south korea tier working conditions and gorrillion hour commute>solution: ban cozy light. goyim cattle do not deserve to be cozybut chaim, surely the goyim might be upset with this?>worry not, moshe. plenty of retarded goyim subhuman vermin scum will defend us for free and turn this into a partisan issue, like they do for everythingyou're right chaim, i forgot, these are not people, these are mere animals
>>103130136>>103126573>>103120572bisexual lighting
>>103119731I can't speak on urban environments but I know for a fact that will never be a thing in suburban neighborhood because HOA fags Will complain it that they're "too bright" despite almost every household's windows been covered with blinds and curtains.
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>>103120572>>103126618>>103130136How about you research how white LEDs work. Whine LEDs use a blue or violet emitter and use a phosphor gel to turn the blue/violet light into full spectrum light. When something happens to the phosphor gel (e.g. detachment due to a defect), the blue/violet light bleeds through.
>>103133841i know that, i was joking about yt comments
they suck no soul bring back sodium lightsand gaslampsand delete these
>>103120572Is your city council run by Prince?
>>103126276>YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO SEE BLUE LIGHT AT NIGHT
>>103119731>Old GoodYes
>>103135715>flash of lightning is comparable to an ever present emissionYou are dumb and stupid
>>103126276fpbp &thread
why dont street lights change from white to orange when (they:1.15) decide vehicles or people coming towards them?
>>103129084>I don't get it how would that worknmp
>>103124070You think stars actually look like that pic in the country? I can tell you've never been.
>>103126777Good album. Unfortunately it doesn't make you less of an inbred>>103126512>>103120994I'm convinced but damn these things are expensive
>>103137713It'd be really intetesting to hear them write it out
>>103119731>Town remakes part of a park, including lights on the road next to it>decide to use the chance to test white LED street lights.>Everyone fkn hates them and nonstop complains>half a decade later, the only 10 Lamps in town that were changed to LED>arent even on most of the time, because people complained soo muchFuck your white light shit.f.lux user btw
amber color good for night driving.
>>103119731Luckily my town uses warmer street lamps on residential streets, and those eye watering white ones on main roads. There is one shopping plaza that still uses sodium vaper lamps which is genuinely striking as every other place uses those blue led lights.
>>103137713>>103140816if you see the purple light you're unvaxed.complain about the purple light and you will get a visit for your mandatory enchipment
>>103135715>Deadly phenomenon that even animals seek shelter from should be emulatedk
>r/shitamericanssay
>>103119731But right is better
>>103119780>Driver performance is more important than the health impact on residentsAmerica!
Why are you outside during the night anyway?
>>103119731ftfy
>>103142429>Why don't Finnish people stay locked in their homes for half a year
>>103141406Kek I love Yanks
>>103119780Don't bother, you're on 4chan, soOld=GoodNew=BadNo matter what
>>103144722>sees an argument about street lights and thinks of getting anally penetrated by blacks
we use crisp white light for areas you need to pay attention to, like places where pedestrians cross. places where people live usually get more pleasant light
>>103119780>planning your entire city structure and livelihood around cars and drivers
>>103144735thats literally what made them do the light change in the first place, idiot
>>103119731Meds
>>103119731i like having both in my city though, and i do
>>103139192What are you trying to buy? NBA/PCA LEDs? HPS/SOX?
>>103119787lol
>>103144752Except that doesn't make sense.In those areas you want light that helps you consistently identify and track movement in your peripheral vision, so that you can see the humans trying to cross the road. Bright LEDs don't do that.
>>103144997that wasn't their reason, that was the excuse you got fed
They put up white light LEDs near my place about 2 blocks away and I still have to close the curtains in order to watch TV/play games/sleep because its blinding, never had an issue with the old lights, they were barely noticeable.I cant imagine how bad it must be for the people living right next to them
What are some very warm bulbs for home use?
>>103151076Most standard "extra warm" LEDs go down to 2200K. I found this 2000K greenandco pisslamp, it's only 100 lumens but it's comfy. There's plenty of all kinds of filament style LED bulbs with tinted glass and whatnot.
>>103151076doesn't get much comfier than underrunning a SOX lamp
