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I am considering picrel for a Linux HTPC / NAS / local service combo
>less than $100
>N100, so supports all relevant codecs
>only 1 SATA port, but could be expanded
>not a fan of SO-DIMM, because I have no spare sticks, but I can live with that
ASRock also has some N100 mobos, but they are at least 50% more expensive.
what do you think guys? is it worth a try or should I go with something else?

https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/motherboards/prime/prime-n100i-d-d4/

Repostan from last thread:

Where should I go from an old Lenovo SFF and USB enclosure setup?
Turns out I've been having a lot of fun learning how to manage a homeserver these past two years, and my family all use my server. I'd like to get into something better with clear and simple upgrade paths.

>>103141372
>only 1 SATA port, but could be expanded
Can you elaborate on that? There isn't any PCI-e slots(apart from that 1x) for a HBA is there?

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What kind of router I need to buy to be able tinker with it? Seems pointless to have a constantly running device that allows no extension (SSH access, installing software packages). If I just pick an off the shelf tp-link it won't allow anything close to that?

>>103142003
isn't it like almost 1 TB/s? do I even need more for HDDs?

>>103142458
I would look onto the supported ddwrt/tomato compatible devices

>>103142458
What chu wanna be doin is on eBay git chu self like a sophos firewall or some other sorta decommed appliance and drop a think opnsense install or some shit on dat piece. Trust me nigger I did it and it’s straight fire no cap. That drip will rizz up your netty Ohio.

>>103141372
useless.
this is for a client that gets data through its nic.

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>got 2 wd passport hdd's at 4TB and 5TB respectively
>want to buy a internal 12-16TB drive and a 2dock bay NAS to later on buy another internal drive to run it at RAID 1
>my idea was have the internal plus the 2 externals running for a while before i buy the second one for backup redundancy and leave the WD's in cold storage

do i need to format the first drive if i want to RAID 1 the drive with the second later on?
also is there a nas that lets me plug the other 2 externals through usb and have it accessible like the internal ones at an affordable price or should i DIY some solution with a raspberry and a small case with fans? the second option sounds like the most effective/upgradable but the first seems simpler and since i never did any of this stuff im not aware how complicated the second option can get

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>>103141372
If you aren't doing heavy tasks, its not a bad deal. I have one myself and I'm running a media server, vanilla WoW server (w/ 1000 bots), and a Steam download server. The WoW server wasn't on my TODO list when I got the board but it is handling it quite well still.

The downside is that single x1 PCIe slot, it's a closed one so unless you don't mind filing down the slot you're stuck with x1 cards. With the ASRock you get an additional PCIe slot, but it runs at x2 and its x1 slot is open.

If you get the ASUS board, I can confirm that pic related works and all 32GB is usable on the board. Despite ASUS and Intel's spec sheet stating 16GB is the limit. ASRock says 32GB can be used on their board but I could never get any 32GB stick to work.

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>>103141372
>>103142509
>NAS
>only 1 SATA port, but could be expanded
>close-ended PCIe x1
the only thing that you can fit in there are those dogshit AsMedia/JMicron SATA controllers that will likely eat your data, they shit themselves under heavy load.
For more SATA ports, use ONLY PCIe SAS HBAs in IT mode, otherwise expect issues.
Stop buying low-end CPUs with no I/O for NASes. And armshit boards too, don't think you can make a RockPro64 into a NAS just because there's a PCIe x4 slot on it (trust me, i've tried).

>>103143175
thanks for the details anon. I don't expect to run any heavy loads on that thing. basically, I would use it for watching and storing videos, making occasional backup, and that's basically it. I would also move some of my services from my RPi (vaultwarden, prosody, CUPS - all very lightweight).
>>103143250
I think you assume much more demanding workflows than what I am planning. but thanks for the warning anon.

>>103142509
As >>103143250 pointed out, those SATA expansion cards are nothing but trouble. Expanding SATA is not as simple as using an USB expansion. The issue isn't about bandwidth, it's about hardware problems and software support. I'd just stay away from that board, it's the x64 equalivent of a raspberry pi. Just works until you need the slightest upgrade. Do yourself a favor and get a regular mobo with more PCI-e slots.

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>>103143500
>I think you assume much more demanding workflows than what I am planning. but thanks for the warning anon.
i didn't express myself well, it's not that they just can't handle higher load, they can straight up spit out garbage data (at least the AsMedia one i've tested with ZFS), potentially resulting in data loss (thankfully i was on RAIDZ1, and only 1 drive was connected through that AsMedia card, so i was safe).
Would it be fine on btrfs, ext4 or NTFS? I don't know, but would you really want to risk it?
Some say that the issue might not be the chip itself, but the circuitry around it on a given card. Even if that is true, how would you know which model is fine? There isn't many reviews from people who could vouch for a given model, and there's tons of them.
Also another warning, in case you would want to buy another N-series/Atom mobo with more SATA ports instead: if there's more that 2 ports, then they are most likely behind a SATA controller anyway (PCIe hard-wired to JMB585 on the board itself). Some dealers on aliexpress even omit that important fact!

>>103143699
>>103144089
that's interesting. definitely something to consider. is there something special about SATA that makes those controllers so unreliable? I've used several PCI-E USB expansion cards, multiple SATA to USB adapters, and never run into any problems. maybe I got lucky, I dunno.

I love you, Home Server General anons.

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>>103144285
wish i knew, SATA itself is ancient, and those companies have been making SATA chips for 20+ years, you would think they'd ironed out all the issues after all that time.
I don't think SATA itself is the problem, since a single SAS HBA can handle hundreds of SATA drives, while a SATA controller can struggle with just a single drive.
My guess is those companies can't compete with LSI/Broadcom, they are targeting the low hanging fruit that is the PC market. As long as those controllers work fine with NTFS, 99% of customers will be happy. And even if they flip a couple of bits, the user won't even notice it for a long time, since i don't think NTFS does any checksumming to report such errors.

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>>103144418
<3

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>even speedtest servers can't cope with symmetrical 10G
cringe
also my ping is atrocious
currently on XGS-PON, 10GBASE-LR (SPF+) and OS2 single-mode fiber

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at least iperf does the job

trying to make a plex truenas server. So far this is my build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2wJVnp

>>103146145
XGS-PON as your CE device? or PE device? you can always find the windows sysadmin when they say SPF instead of SFP.

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>>103146729
why? does SPF mean anything other than being a typo?
I think they're still on 10G-EPON for the backend
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1O0Oh10IuDbRwZlrf7u81dnknwLc
this is the SoC provided by my ISP
https://www.cortina-access.com/index.php/products/single-family-unit-sfu-xpon-onu
for now I'm getting
RX : -14.7 dBm
TX : +6.3 dBm
can't really complain since I'm paying 20€ per month for this, but FTTH routing is much less optimized than on datacenters, hence the ping
not even sure how to saturate 10G of upload speed, guess I'll try throwing H@H at it for now

>>103147049
your RX for an SFP-10G-LR is under the minimum on this datasheet, barely:
https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/interfaces-modules/transceiver-modules/data_sheet_c78-455693.html

what device do you have hooked up to your CE device for routing/firewalling, out of curiosity?

does auto-heal for docker actually help? i mean what the chances a container just stops working anyway

>>103147850
well my fiber LAN is not actually 5km wide so, could've just went with SR but it makes no practical difference, 10GBASE has become old and cheap anyway
https://mikrotik.com/product/crs305_1g_4s_in

>>103141372
n100s are good, but that board looks like a total turd. Do you need the full size mobo power cable to make this work?

I got an n300 and use it as a media server and hevc encoder. Get one you can power over usb-c

>>103148146
is that LR going to your ISP or to your own equipment? if that's to your own equipment something is seriously wrong. you cant use SR on OS2, SR is multimode and OS2 is single mode.

>>103148470
I meant just for LAN, I have OM3 cables lying around as well, just don't like the color

>>103141372
n100's are good too, but make sure you understand how many lanes are available to you. If you run a HBA, etc. Should be fine with just one PCI-E slot in any event....

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>>103143699
>>103143250
>>103141372

Put your sister on the street for a night and put together $100 to solve all your HDD expansion problems for the next 20+years.

https://serverpartdeals.com/collections/host-bus-adapters-hba

I grow tired of poorfags shitting up this thread trying to save shekels on garbage chinkshit amazon sata expanders.

The HBA I listed is one of the most battle tested cards on planet earth. Every linux kernel is in balls deep support of them and will never fail you.

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>>103141372
Look, since you are going with a 1 or 2 drive setup NAS, I think you will be better served with this:

https://www.amazon.com/HP-EliteDesk-4CB30UT-Desktop-i5-8500T/dp/B07MSLXK7R

Much better CPU, can get up to 64gb ram if needed, and a fucking unbelievably low idle power. Mine is being used for ETH node duties and when I tested idle it was pulling 6w (!) from the wall with the included PSU.

Not sure about the amazon store version, but you can put a single 3.5 HDD in there as well as a M2 SSD. Yes you will have no redundancy in the drive but will be a slick as shit home nas / server combo.

https://www.servethehome.com/hp-elitedesk-800-g4-mini-tinyminimicro-guide-review/

I get the urge to DIY a server, but these are so cheap and have excellent hardware. i5-8500t is a GREAT low power CPU for server duties with QuickSync, etc.

How shit are ES and QS server CPUs?

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I want to fit 3 or more gpus into my system so I can piss about with llms.

With gpus being as fat as they are,
I can fit 2 on my motherboard,
but I'm going to need to use either a straight? pcie riser cable or oculink to be able to connect up that 3rd gpu.

Thoughts and suggestions please.

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I have a working ARM - Ripper server
>handbrake makemkv bot
It is pretty cool, but I only have a Phenom II X4 955. I built this thing out of spare parts, but this thing idles between 80 and 100 watts. What would be a cheap more powerful alternative?

>>103149221
why do you need 3 or more separate cards? datacenter/workstation GPUs are usually quite slim. some of them also support SR-IOV, which would let you split one card between up to 16 VMs, I believe.

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I want to repurpose one old pc I got lying around into a basic server for storing and sharing my data and streaming media across the LAN while having data loss protection.
The pc is some semi-old junker from my workplace with B350 mobo with Ryzen 5 2600X, 16gigs of ram and P2000 gpu. Planning to buy two 8tb WD gold drives to stuff them in and run it like that on Raid 1. (Can't afford more drives since I am poor af and for some reason 4tb drives cost identical to 8tb here)
Is this stupid? Should I save half a year more for two more hdds, can I uphrade it afterwards if I buy more hdds later? Please treat me like a complete retard in this topic and explain what would be best option to do in this situation, speed of the server is kind of essential since I'd like to access the data on it on daily basis to sort it out, categorize and rarely run small programs off it.

>>103148704
depends on what you get, last time I bought an engineering sample its temp sensor wasn't reporting properly but otherwise it worked fine

>>103150830
Get an IT mode RAID card / HBA off ebay/aliexpress. Get some refurbished SAS drives off ebay. Thank me later.

>>103150819
Buying used 3090s seemed like a cheap way to get lots of vram.
Rough cost of getting 3 would be £2000 and get me to 72gb.

With 48gb vram I can currently run a 70b model at 4-bit quantization w/ 8k of context.
With another 24gb I will be able to have more context, and maybe use a less lossy quantization like 5-bit or 6-bit.

And there are even bigger models to explore.

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>>103151727
my autism is telling me that it should be possible to fuck off that fat heatsink and bracket and put in some kind of slim custom cooling loop.... but yes, riser is probably a much easier way.

>>103151828
>>103149221
taking the shroud and fans off looks like it might effectively convert it into a 2-slot card. obviously that means you'll need some jet engine tier case cooling

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>>103140998
For a home network, is there any purpose in having a Layer 3 switch if I intend to use a firewall like OPNsense in my network? I want my firewall to see all network traffic and to apply routing rules to all network traffic.
I want isolated network segments, so I imagine the best thing to use would be a Layer 2 switch with VLANs, right?
What are the pros of using a Layer 3 switch within a home network?

I'm trying to get some n100 for offsite backups and keep some media for my parents TVs but I'm very new to this all
Is stremio any good?
The fuck can you do with it?

>>103143175
>Steam download server.
What's this?
Which media server thing is the best for a N100?
I tested out plex on sone old 3570k I had and for whatever reason it chokes when the TV is trying to do 4k stuff, CPU usage goes to 100%

>>103152539
>I want isolated network segments, so I imagine the best thing to use would be a Layer 2 switch with VLANs, right?
There's nothing that L2 switches can do that L3 switches can't do. L3 gives you more flexibility, such as handling ACLs and inter-VLAN traffic at switch level, without saturating the router or its links.

Anyone here know if I can boot an nvme drive on a system that doesn't support it by sticking my efi partition on something like a thumb drive? Will be using debian on an old IBM x3650 m4.
Sorry if I post basically this same thing twice, I think my first post went off into the void after waiting the dumb 15 minutes for a captcha, but it could just be on my end.

>>103150892
Absolutely this. I got some 10TB drives off ebay and they've not had any issues for the few months I've used them.

>making server box
>plan to use it for a couple, dedicated game servers for friends
>some of them need to be able to access it
>I trust the couple that need access, but still don't want to give them full access to everything
>windows server
How would I set this up? Basically there's a GUI software for that specific game server, and they need basic file access to a few specific folders.

>>103153894
Can you somehow enable privileged SMB shares to give them access to the server files? If they're outside your network accessing those files and NOT gaming, a VPN setup might work...

>>103148604
This. I used a SATA expander, had disk issues, got a second one, ALSO had disk issues, and just ended up finally getting a SAS HBA which instantly fixed all of my issues.
Moreover, they're great because they'll support both SATA and SAS drives. They also support dozens of drives per card.

>>103153932
They also need to be able to use the game-server GUI, so I don't think a basic VPN/FTP connection will work. Am I able to make an "account" for them to log into like normal Windows that only has access to those basic things?

>>103154039
Hmmmm, I'm really not sure if that's how you do that in Windows. I only host a media server so I made user accounts for my users that they log in with, and a cloudflare secure tunnel for access.

Honestly there's likely some guides online for your needs -- setting up a game server from home in Windows server. I'm just not sure how to do this on Windows and give them safe access to your home network

>>103154065
Like I said, I trust them, but there's the saying "locks keep honest people honest."

>>103154075
Yeah I get it. The only things I can think of are:

>port forwarding
>VPN to your house they log into
>Cloudflare tunnel (though idk if this would make sense)

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updated a single docker image and it took around three hours

>>103152858
Sure, but if I want a firewall to manage all my traffic (ACLs), what use is a Layer 3 switch for my purposes? Just want to make sure I'm not missing something.
I'd like to centrally manage all access controls within my network on my one OPNsense firewall (implemented as a VM in Proxmox). Layer 3 switch routing would bypass those ACLs, correct?

>>103154714
>Layer 3 switch routing would bypass those ACLs, correct?
No. I don't know why you'd even think that.

>>103147883
i feel like if one of my containers failed id rather know about it than have it try to auto restart. autorestarting of services (container or otherwise) seems like a bandaid fix to me that would only ever mask underlying issues

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>>103154714
NTA, you're talking about a router/firewall on a stick setup - that's the term. to answer your question: yes. but, you can do ACLs on the switch too. ACLs on a layer 3 switch aren't stateful like a firewall would be, at least for UDP traffic. that's the catch.

you have to understand that any traffic traveling inside of the same broadcast domain (layer 2 VLAN) will not be processed by your OPNsense inter-VLAN ACLs either. that type of traffic gets handled on the switch via layer 2 in ARP before it goes up to OPNsense. inside of a single broadcast domain (L2 VLAN) two physical devices require host based firewalling to achieve "proper segmentation" between them.

beyond layer 2 broadcast domains, there are layer 3 interfaces which provide the capability of routing between networks. this is what you're primarily talking about. the only thing in the way of two layer 3 segments on a single firewall device is an inter-VLAN ACL. despite this, devices are always theoretically capable of reaching each other if they can bypass the firewall, or if a misconfiguration in the firewall configuration hierarchy allows the traffic, or if an exploit is used.

from a purist perspective, you do not have true isolation between your network segments unless you are using VRFs to segment layer 3 and preventing routes from being advertised between isolated segments. not having a route between two devices in the first place is the truest and most secure form of network segmentation.

lastly, if you're only using layer 4 ACLs and not doing layer 7 (suricata) you're not making full use of what OPNsense has to offer. but, it's very strenuous on the hardware to do layer 7 IPS.

hopefully this gives you a holistic picture of network segmentation. pic related it's some of the segmentation in my homelab (just the layer 3 and firewall zones). top is a suricata bridge, then an SRX 345 (iBGP/eBGP hub/spoke), then a C9300-24UX (eBGP spokes). layer 2 segmentation inside each spoke VRF.

>>103155556
>>103154714
i should be more clear - your OPNsense ACLs will only affect north-south if you do your core routing on the switch. east-west ACLs would need to happen on the switch.

Finally got hardware transcoding working right in my Jellyfin instance. Feels good man.

Worth it discounted?

https://www.amazon.com/TERRAMASTER-D4-320-External-Drive-Enclosure/dp/B0CTTL9R7Z

>>103154232
How?

>>103155556
>>103155571
You divided your home network into separate ASNs? Good Lord. Amazing. This is the autistic information I crave; thank you.
After more research and realizing that all traffic between hosts within a Layer 2 switch's VLAN would never even make it to my firewall to begin with, I'm coming to the conclusion that a Layer 3 switch is actually very necessary and not optional for what I want to achieve. I want isolated network segments, but I also want to control the traffic between hosts within the same segment.
I will looks into VRFs and other things mentioned in your top-quality post.

>>103149557
>ARM - Ripper server
I've been wanting to put one of these together, but it's not made it to the top of my list yet. Cheap is probably relative, but for lower power you really want any SBC that has the bare minimum I/O you need. You could probably manage an older 2nd hand rpi, maybe with a hub assuming your drives are all USB.

>>103147883
>>103155395
Auto restarting is valid in a few cases (network blip, container started before backing service became healthy, node rebooted, etc.), but you should have accompanying logs/notifications for repeat failures.

>>103150842
I think I saw a thread on CPU mining on STH and they mentioned super cheap Epyc Bergamo CPUs with like 70-90+ cores. I thought that was pretty cool to grab if I ever see one for cheap on eBay for fucking around with VMs.

What's the consensus on buying new/used consumer parts for a home server?

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>>103156520
here's the full thing so far. maybe it'll give you some ideas.

I'm (very slowly) migrating to k8s, but one thing I've gotten annoyed with in my test cluster is PV/Cs, specifically reusage. Currently I've got Longhorn set up, so whenever a Deployment asks for storage it gets it, but I'm doing a lot of apply and delete operations as part of my testing which is creating a lot of PVs that I need to clear out (I want the policy set to Retain).

Is there a convenient way for my Deployments to reuse a specific pre-existing PV, or ask to create a specific (ex: with a particular label) PV if it doesn't exist?

>>103157152
Depends on what parts.
Used consumer HDDs, NICs, Sata cards? Don't.
Used consumer MBs, CPUs, GPUs? Usually some pretty okay deals, when you consider the power draw of enterprise stuff.

i have a small server that was running truenas core until the boot drive shat the bed. i reinstalled truenas scale onto the old log drive that is a small ssd. im trying to import my pool (only had 1) and its not wanting to because the log drive is gone, obviously. using "zpool import -f -F -m [pool]" it will import the dataset as read only but will not import the pool at all, it shows "no pools" in the storage screen. when trying to access the datasets using a share, i cannot as it requires a path in the pool which doesnt exist. also going into the dataset page brings up a bunch of errors about path issues which makes sense.
how the hell can i get the pool to actually import properly? do i have to do an install of core, restore the settings backup, and then do an upgrade in place? or how else can i avoid another hour of work to do that?

>>103158667
I wouldn't have expected NICs and SATA cards to be things to avoid getting used. How come?
Enterprise stuff is overkill for me, Im just after babby's first home server/NAS solution
Thanks anon

>>103159149
Different anon here. If your question is just used CONSUMER vs used ENTERPRISE, it's not going to make any difference. In general, used drives (regardless of consumer vs. enterprise or HDD vs SSD) are always a risk since they have finite lifespans inherent to the design. Other components just don't really degrade, with few exceptions. First anything with a fan (ex: GPUs) may need replaced. Second, things than can be/have been overclocked (CPUs, GPUs, RAM) can be damaged by overvolting, which makes buying 2nd hand from a consumer potentially riskier.

When it comes to new vs. used, you're pretty much always doing a balancing act of price, power, and efficiency. Newer stuff will probably be more expensive, but cheaper on electricity, and may be more powerful (but you probably aren't going to use all of that power anyway). Used gear will be the opposite, but you might find more powerful enterprise stuff that while older, is better than current consumer lines. It'll end up being very specific to what exactly you're looking for.

Again, drives are really the only caution when buying used, everything else is usually fine if it's working when you get it. And even used drives are fine as long as you aren't using them as the sole source for storing critical information. My opinion is buy what you think you want as cheap as you can, and make incremental upgrades later on as appropriate.

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still no idea what to make of my extra uplink bandwidth
I have like several gbps to spare... and my only wish is for the numbers to go up

>>103153894
hyper-v and rdp?

why do pa/g/eets always make out that Wi-Fi is super slow when you can get gigabit+ speeds?

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I want to get an OPNsense box but I'm torn between getting something like Topton from aliexpress or get something like a Lenovo/HP/Dell minipc and install a NIC with 10G SFP capability?

I'm planning on getting a managed switch and setting up at least 5 VLANs segmented from each other. I don't have anything or have Internet that can utilize 10G but since I'm planning on that many VLANs would it be better to stick with the 10G plan or will 2.5G be more than enough? I'm aiming to get power consumption as low as possible too.

>>103155556
>>103157362
Shit like this just depresses me. I want to have the autism and dedication required to produce such meticulous designs and diagrams, but I simply do not. At which point I begin to wonder, why do I bother at all?

>>103159149
>Enterprise stuff is overkill for me
No, it's not. That's just the market segment stigma. Read the replies to the first comment; SAS HBAs are pretty much mandatory for a NAS and they're not expensive either.

>>103162355
that's not an innate characteristic bud, that's vitamin/sunlight/external motivator deficiency

>>103157362
>two US devices to protect against US spy agency
Retard

>>103162618
two? learn to count. also, it's a joke.

>>103161781
9 times out of 10 doing your east-west routing on your core switch is better than forcing it up through the bottleneck of your firewall.

>>103162605
>not an innate characteristic
How would you know, bud? As far as I know, I never had any interest in making things pretty so that others would go "oh wow". What I do enjoy, is making things work better by making them more efficient in some way. Seems pretty fucking innate to me.

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>>103156424
>forgot to git pull when starting, ended up with file permission issues in container thanks to uid/gid change
>had to add dependency to dockerfile to build new version even after git pull
>confused with volume management, expected volume with config to automagically attach to new container
>confused with the container update process
>confused with versioning of software running inside container, thought it was supposed to update to 1.6.something since the failing build logs had a mention of it but apparently 1.4.something was correct

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>>103151727
Running 4 GPUs here, one via riser which drops PCIe speed yet doesn't noticeably affect inference. No issue with riser but fitting multiple gaming cards in even a large case may be a pain in the ass. Sometimes there are deals on A6000, 48GB in two slots.

I'm hoping to build a lite NAS with a M910q ThinkCentre.

Asking for a confirmation that I'm not doing something stupid with PCI-e / M2 conversation.

I want to buy this M2 PCIe -> SATA ASM1166 adapter:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007182349627.html

And connect it instead of the M2 A+E WiFI card to M.2 slot, I think it's not keyed in any way. AFAIK the slot has just 1 or 2 lanes but I'm OK with that, it will be a lite NAS. Some people did this successfully on reddit, but possibly with a smaller card.

There is no physical space for a large card like the one I want, so I need an extension cable like this one:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005447379585.html
It seems to connect any M2 card to a A+E keyed slot.

Did I get it right? Is there any chance of compatibility issues here?

If I buy a used a series GPU nvidia GPU can I share it between multiple VMS in KVM with drivers that are free and accessible?

>>103163407
depends on whether or not the card supports SR-IOV or something similar.

>>103163407
https://docs.nvidia.com/vgpu/11.0/pdf/grid-vgpu-user-guide.pdf
>An NVIDIA vGPU that supports SR-IOV resides on a physical GPU that supports SR-IOV, such as a GPU based on the NVIDIA Ampere architecture.

Based on this snippet, it seems that anything based on Ampere should support SR-IOV, but I'd double check before buying.

>>103159149
Personally I'd avoid used consumer NICs and SATA cards simply because they're usually worse for a pretty similar or even higher cost.
For consumer HDDs, I'd expect them to be just worse from the factory, plus couple that with how the average joe treats a PC? Risky. With enterprise drives, they're rated for pretty long-term use so power on hours aren't as much as a concern, also I have my doubt they get banged about quite as much.

For the main internals, MBs, CPUs, and GPUs, they just last ages anyway, so no real need to worry about them. As another anon said, they may have been OC'd and overvolted to hell, but if they're fucked on arrival ebay has a good money back policy.

>>103163479
>>103163604
Nvidia A2 ampre so I guess I'd be good .

Thanks bb

I want to learn how to run servers and modern networking.
I have like 5 old laptops sitting around and I want to learn how to set them up as servers on an internal network using an old router, how should I start? Any resources to look at?

>>103163693
It looks like GRID is something you have to pay for. That's why I said double check instead of listening to everything retards like me say.

>>103163714
Personally I just did what I thought would be cool. I wanted to setup a web server on my LAN and have a load of music to listen to, so I googled how to setup a web server then did it.
Then I wanted to be able to use the drive in that system as a network share, so I googled it and did it.
Just think of cool things you'd like to do, then google how to do them, with time you'll learn all sorts of stuff.

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>>103163368
>all that for a single lane of PCIe with possible signalling issues for a possibly faulty AssMedia chip on a chink board for drives that won't fit the case anyway and that require another power supply
what's wrong with you people, at that point just grab a cheap ATX PC or rack server and a used LSI2008 card.

>>103163805
I'm on a budget obviously
Got the ThinkCentre for free, it's a neat box

I need to stick Windows Server 2022 on some consumer hardware, what can I do for drivers?

>>103163805
>a cheap ATX PC
any recs for something fairly low powered to use for NAS/Media?

>>103164030
8TB external HDD and plug it into your router.

>>103163865
it is a neat box, just not very fit for a NAS.
>I'm on a budget obviously
a miser pays twice i'm afraid, people are reporting issues with SATA controllers in this very thread, me included.
I'd at the very least use a LSI SAS2008 card instead of AsMedia, the datasheet says it works with x8, x4 or x1 PCIe lanes, so it should be compatible.
You'd need M.2 A-E adapter to open-ended PCIe then i believe, like this one, although i hate the idea of running PCIe through chink extenders:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004984855298.html
I don't know much about M.2 A-E, check the datasheet if it's wired for PCIe or something else, like USB. If you have a working WiFi card in it and it shows under `lspci`, then it should be good.
>>103164030
anything Skylake or newer should be plenty power efficient.

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>>103164209
The WiFi is definitely connected through PCIe, so hopefully that's good enough.
I haven't seriously considered those LSI cards, but I can see they're available for just as cheap (from China of course). Definitely look more reliable.. I'll check them out.

Thanks anon

>>103164677
Don't get the cards from china. They're often counterfeit in my experience.

go on ebay, look up theartofserver. pull the datasheet for the card you're looking at, and don't forget to grab some breakout cables for your needs -- direction matters

other than that, they're pretty much plug and play, at least on linux. no clue on windows

>>103141372
Are all these integrated cpu "NAS boards" shit?
I always see them recommended

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>>103165028
yes, they are.
>I always see them recommended
quite the opposite: >>102255878 >>101518388 >>101439113 >>101199587 >>98908474 >>98065321 >>97831687 >>97754576

>>103165146
My mistake, I didn't mean here.
on YT every DIY NAS nigga shills them

>>103163728
Why are they so fucking greedy ? Isn't selling an enterprise GPU for 98% margin enough?

I bought a 1 Gbps ISP plan, but i only get 800-900 mbps out of it. How do i talk to ISP about that issue? I showed the support guy an iperf test with an external and internal server i did, where it shows that my router is 1 Gbps+ capable, and he told me to plug in the cord directly to my PC for some reason. It makes no sense.

>>103166113
All you'll get are the golden words of all ISP. "Up to"
More seriously, there's 100 things that could cause minor losses in speed like that. If you actually have a 1Gb plan, you should be using 2.5Gb hardware so there's actually some overhead, otherwise 900-950Mbps is the best you'll see.

Can someone give me some EILI5 resources for basic, home firewalls, and related? Setting up my home lab soon, and I'll have open ports and such.

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Built with Python/Flask/Tkinter and various media information utilities on loonix (hosted on my pi 4).
>has login system
>allows file sharing without login over http
>file preview, built-in image and music viewer/player
>custom data base based on shelve, one for keeping file data and the other for file names and folder structure

>>103166348
i226-v n100

>>103146470
anything I should change with this or is this good for a basic setup?

>>103166787
Walk me through why you're going with an Arc card instead of just going Intel and using quicksync? It's fine, but walking through your thought process helps determine if you have actual reasons or just picked that way randomly. I do NOT use truenas, but I think you need truenas scale for gpu passthrough/allocation?

Your memory speed is low, but probably fine.

Those HDDs seem expensive. You could get like 6 14tb HC530 refurbs for that kind of money.

>>103167054
>Walk me through why you're going with an Arc card instead of just going Intel and using quicksync?

I spent 3 minutes building this with barely any research other than remembering that Intel GPUs are pretty good when it comes to media server builds now.

My main setup would be (at most) 4 or 5 people streaming all at once.

>>103167083

So, as it's a plex build, so really the question is if you're transcoding or not. If not, you're not even using said GPU. This'll be the case for any time your client can direct play the media. Assuming you're either smart about what media you get, or comfortable with ffmpeg or handbrake, you can overcome any GPU need anyways.

Intel CPUs have quicksync built in. Arc cards have it as well. You're really making up for a feature lack in AMD chips. Any modern Intel chip is going to have no problem with 4 or 5 streams.

My advice would be to just go Intel, drop the ARC card. You can always add it later if you really run into problems, but I seriously doubt you will.

HDDs is up to your budget, but you can certainly get more for less. Poke around https://diskprices.com/

>>103162618
>>103157362
I did laugh at the picture. Its funny.

The real funny thing is that people here think if the FBI wanted to fuck you over, they would contest with you 1v1 via hacker vs firewall skillz. Like the movie Hackers. lmao.

If they wanted you, they'll do exactly what they did to the Vegas shooters brother, crypto bros in Barbados, etc. They'll get a warrant from some FISA court rent-a-judge, kick you out of your house to execute the warrant and plant a single hard drive in your desk full of child porn. It will be your word against theirs, and guess what a jury of your peers will think?

Life just isn't that interesting anon.

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https://www.ebay.com/deals/tech/memory-drives-storage

tell me why i shouldnt load up on $90 enterprise decoms and have a 60tb+ home server for ~$1100 of drives
>not shilling i promise

how feasible is it to use an ISP-provided modem/router thing (bought outright, no leasing or whatever) as a makeshift switch? supposedly it's gigabit, for the ports it says 2 are for lan, 1 for wan (aside from the phoneline/dsl ports and usb/power)
I'm a moron, so is it worth trying to do that with this? or is it more likely my stupidity would brick it if it's possible?

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>>103170104
>double parity on a 4 drive pool
Because you could have 90TB and triple parity if you weren't retarded.

>>103170175
5 port 1Gb switches are like $15, anon.

>>103170248
yeah I bought a tendu or something one on amazoon, but was wondering if I could've used my old modem instead
is there anything else I could feasibly use the thing for aside from dropping it off at the ewaste centre?

>>103170240
better odds to not lose the pool during catastrophic failure. if the apocalypse happens and 4 or 5 drives decide to crash at once, a 1x z3 is dead while a 3x z2 you at least have a shot that each pool only loses 1-2 drives and is recoverable, and if not then it's dead anyway so the extra 30tb didn't mean anything in the end anyway.

>>103170438
That's what backups are for. You might as well just run Raid1 for what you're doing.

>>103170451
seems more efficient to lose 30% capacity for increased fault tolerance than to need a second separate 0.1pb storage option to back up the first if I'm not trying to run a datacenter in my closet.

>>103170532
>to lose 30% capacity
You're losing over 50% you fucking tard. Can you not even read the calculator?

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>>103140998
Followed a guide to installing tor and monerod into docker containers, and after doing a test transaction it seems to work. So now I have the ability to run my own monero onion node whenever I want to by just turning on those containers which is very cool indeed.
Also using syncthing to sync a KeePassXC database between devices is really neat, I have the folders set up for a "recycle bin" approach with no cleanup in case it freaks out and deletes the file for whatever reason in sync.
I feel much more at ease knowing my passwords aren't going to get lost forever if one hard drive with the file on it decides to fail, and I can also use it on my phone without worrying about manually moving the file too.

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>>103170532
>worried about fault tolerance
>not running backups

>>103170543
60 is 66.6% of 90 dumbfuck, therefore going 90 to 60 is losing 30% (33.3 but whatever). go ahead and do 90*.5 and 90*.67 in your calculator and see what you get. I'll bet it's 45 and 60.3 respectively.

>>103170591
again, I don't want to have to put up a 50 drive server rack in my closet to backup my backups of backups of vidya and porn and aminays.

>>103170635
Holy fuck, you stupid cunt, that's what you meant. You're losing an ADDITIONAL 30% doing your 3 pool shit over what I said. Your TOTAL storage loss is 53% doing 3 pools.

>>103140998
Hey I'm trying to run a VM with VitalPBX on it, which is an interface with Asterisk as a backend for VOIP PBX stuff--but it runs well for a while and I can access it over the LAN fine, but after a few minutes I can no longer access it.

Is this some kind of DHCP or other network configuration issue, do you imagine?

Alright anons it's black Friday month. I want to get some new HDDs to replace some of my old ones.

I am looking at getting up to 4 HDDs. I need two to be identical so I can continue a RAID setup. The other 2 don't matter.

I'm considering 14 or 16 TB. I'll be replacing 3 6 TB and 1 2TB.

I ordered one of these a while ago. Refurb but highly rated. Good price. Do I do more of these or is there gonna be a better Black Friday deal on 14 TB+ elsewhere?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/225639956399?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=S19fEkkRRx6&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=TYN9XvtuSMq&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

>>103170104
>>103170438
>"I don't wanna do backups and do stupid shit with lots of wasted disks and unnecessary parity!"
Anon can't into fucking maths. Even RAID5 with an additional hot spare matches RAID6. For a RAID6+ or Z3 to fucking fail on you, you'll need to bash the server in yourself. tl,dr: You're a fucking retard who hopelessly tries to dodge backups.

I bought a Dell R730 and was thinking of putting it in my closet to keep the noise down at night and open the door during the day. Thoughts?

Are fiber media converters (SFP <-> RJ45) as bad as they say?

If the datasheet for a HDD says
>Perpendicular recording technology
Is that HDD guaranteed to be a CMR then?

>>103172030
yes

>>103172937
Care to elaborate, by my understanding they are just dumb switches with two ports.

So is Intel the only enterprise GPU that is feature complete without a license ?

>>103170584
Just fyi the syncthing app for android that's in the play store is currently unmaintained and you should be using the fork that's on Fdroid.
You can export your configs on the original one and then import them to the fork but you might need to force-close one to be able to run the other (speaking from experience).
>>103166591
Very nice.

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>>103170104
Why are you splitting them into 4 groups? 2 groups of 6 in raid z2 will give you so much more space

>>103172999
they frequently fail, you need one per link, they have limited optic support, the list goes on. depending on the usecase there are other ways to furnish the connectivity. however, the one usecase they are viable for, that there is no other solution, are runs that exceed 100m that also require PoE.

is jellyfin the best free option or im missing something?
I'm not going to pay a "lifetime" license to plex or emby

>>103173215
You don't need Jellyfin, Plex or Emby if you aren't planning on watching stuff on a phone from 2008.

>>103173237
Its not for me its for my parents and they can't deal without anything harder to use than netflix

>>103173245
Then you'll want Kodi with a simplified theme.

>>103173257
Can you host the content for kodi?

>>103173157
Yeah, I know they have their faults and should be avoided but IMHO there ain't any techical reason why a well-made media converter should be any worse reliability-wise than a switch as they are practically the same product.

>>103173215
Yes, it is.

>>103173358
i've replaced many more failed media converters than failed switches in my career. they are not the same product at all, they are physically and logically extremely different, not just in form factor.

whats the best pico psu from aliexpress?

>>103152756
>What's this?
I'm running a steam client in a LXC container that downloads games onto a spare drive. As long as it's up and running and available to the network Steam will prioritize that Client to download from instead of their own servers. It saves bandwidth and if you have any apps that remove Steam's DRM you effectively own your own games too assuming you aren't playing games with Denuvo.

If you are downloading to Windows clients make sure any game that has Native Linux support is forced to use Proton. ie Killing Floor, any RenPy VN, and RPGMakerMV game and up. Otherwise Steam won't download from the server

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>>103151727
>>103163042
bifurcation and risers are your friends.
shop around for either 3090 turbos (don't pay more than $800), or a4000/a5000/a6000 series cards if you can really find a good deal.

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>>103151727
>>103163042
>>103174237
what do you do with so many gpus tell me dont lie any more

>>103174378
Blacked AI rendering of vchubas strictly for /trash/ use

>>103173703
Even the better ones like this are pure trash and even the cheapest POE switch runs circles around it?

https://mikrotik.com/product/RBFTC11

>>103174452
what are you trying to do? deliver PoE over long distance to a single device?

>>103174472
Got a small but tricky home network upgrade coming where fiber would be easier than thinnest CAT6 and because I'd like the idea of reusing old copper switches instead of buying new SFP(+) switches.

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>>103174421
based

What do you guys use for backups? Tapes, extra HDDs, Blu-Ray discs?

>>103174555
you can buy a copper switch with SFP ports in it for $50. the price difference is negligible. why make it hard on yourself by trying to find a weird media converter?

How worried should I be about opening ports for something like wg-easy?
Alternatively I'm looking at Tailscale (have used it before) or this Netbird thing.
I just want to be able to access my SMB shares from outside my network.

>>103174956
Honestly do Tailscale. It's easier and safer than opening ports

>>103174378
force LLMs to say racist and antisemitic things online

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>>103174749
I have a 3-2-1 solution

>Parity on the server
>Uploading media to a third party
>Taking local backups with a TrueNAS Scale backup server running syncthing.
Tape is really impractical unless you have like... hundreds of TB of data.

Some people have the philosophy that "the internet is my backup" as in they're going to redownload/torrent/usenet everything all over again. I'm not against that for power users but there's zero chance I'm going to do that, so I take backups.

>>103175001
I'll give Netbird a go first.
Took a look at their admin interface and there's a lot of features, I just need to figure out if it also supports LAN access, since I plan on running it on a spare Pi I have.
I also plan on running Adguard on it and using it as my DNS.
Otherwise I'll just go back to using Tailscale.

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>>103174749
second pool of HDDs i sync once every month

>>103174916
That's also an option, I'm just checking all possible solutions.

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I couldn't help myself and picked up Cisco C1118-8P from Amazon for around 1/10th of the price compared to other online stores and now I'm wondering where the catch is. Does anyone out here have any experience with Cisco routers?

>>103174956
As long as you don't do something retarded like toward the port to the wrong machine haveing wireguard exposed is extremely safe

>>103140998
What kind of server? As in making your own computer network or just having your own internet server at home? Is it directly wired to the ISP or connected tl a distribution network. What kind of setup do you mean?

>>103174749
My pool is only 8TB at the moment so i just back up to an 8TB external when I remember to. Probably not the smartest way, but I'm also not the smartest guy

I installed some n100 with jellyfin over my parents house but the shit transcode fucking everything despite using a OLED 2000€ TV that can natively play it all just fine if I just plug the external storage into the TV, any idea why or how to fix this shit

>>103175591
See
>>103173237
Don't use a tarted-up media server, all you needed was a file server.

>>103175591
Did you add the gpu to your docker compose?
Also maybe try changing the player on the TV from the built-in one to ExoPlayer or install MPV and use that.
>>103175619
Kodi's UI is god awful, especially for people's parents.

>>103175426
there's no catch except that if you plan on using it like a layer 3 switch you're going to need to become familiar with bridge domains and bridge domain interfaces.

>>103175591
You could also try going to the user's settings under the admin dashboard and disabling their permission to transcode. That should force direct play, and give an error if it can't

>>103175669
Isn't Cisco up to some bullshit with different license tiers, limiting the performance of EOL hardware and bricking Meraki devices once your subscription runs out?

>>103175952
yeah their meraki shit is fucked up, but the rest of the cisco portfolio (aside from firewalls) dont require a license for full functionality. it's good shit for homelabs. catalyst switches, routers (except for 8000v virtual ones which are limited to 300/300), WAPs, all fine. there is some nuance to the throughput of an ASR depending on the SPA modules that are installed on the device versus the perpetual licensing it comes with. no limiting of EOL hardware.

>>103162682
Can't you docker pull instead of git pull?
>>103175591
Check server playback settings and client playback settings. If the codecs are supported and the bitrate limits are met it should never transcode.
t. Similar setup
You shouldn't have to do >>103175709 on jellyfin unless your tv doesn't report codecs properly. What player on your TV are you using?

>>103175952
>>103176348
They don't brick once your subscription runs out, they continue functioning but you can't reconfigure them for very obvious reasons, it isn't "fucked up" It's the entire reason your paying a premium for the line.

>>103177122
i meant their licensing model for meraki is fucked up. everything else besides the meraki portfolio doesn't have that same issue, you can continue to configure them and fully utilize them. worst case is they throw an occasional syslog, depending on the device. anyone who uses meraki in the workplace is retarded. less features and way more stringent for slightly less cost physical device cost. then they try and rope you into addons and management panes.

>>103174749
A second identical server so I just have to run 1 command: sudo rsync -a --delete

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Hi guys!
Do yo have a list of resources recommendations to learn about networking to self host?
I dont have any problem with linux or containers, I have no problem setting the apps locally, but to make the jump and actually make the apps accessible outside my local network I'm completely loss...

Amy resource you would guys recommend?
Books, videos, courses, whatever really, I know my basic networking, ips, vlan, routing protocols, but I really don't understand how to make it accessible through the internet and the network and application components I need for it..

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Thoughts on an i3 8100 + ASRock H310CM-DVS combo with Noctua NH-L9i for £75?
Supposedly used as a server for a year. Would use it to power NAS/Jellyfin server myself

>>103178180
if you understand routing protocols (actual routing protocols not just internet protocols) and basic networking then just familiarize yourself with NAT, VPNs, and proxies and that's it. if you're talking about internet protocols (tcp, udp, icmp) and not routing protocols (ospf, bgp, isis, eigrp, rip) then you'll need to understand basic routing (gateways, prefixes/subnets, default routes). you might want to study up on network/application security so you can expose services safely. there's no authoritative source that ties these concepts together for someone to implement in a lab situation to my knowledge, it'll have to get studied piecemeal. if you have a lot of dumb basic questions an LLM is your friend and tutor.

Has anyone used syncplay with jellyfin? If so, how well does it work for 2 users on the jellyfin server to sync playing back the same media? So far it is only on the jellyfin mobile clients and the jellyfin web client, correct?

How do i access nextcloud remotely? I assume I need some kind of static IP. Would that have to be for my truenas itself or just thr nextcloud app? What is the best, user-friendly, private way to do that, use it through Wireguard?

>>103179159
will check NAT, VPNs, and proxies and application security, thanks!

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I just bought one of these for the equivalent of $3 USD.

What's a good /hsg/-related usecase?

Are there any good free/cheap ways to utilize old HDDs?
4TB used to be huge but I retired them for 20TB+ and now I'm not sure what to do with the old drives.
It's not that I have no use for 4TB I just like everything being on one big volume as that makes backups easier and organizing things a lot simpler. Also have some 1TBs.

This is what I'm retiring if I can't find a good use for them.
1TB x8
4TB x6
5TB x4
8TB x2
I have a spare PC I could turn into a NAS but that's a lot of SATA ports the motherboard does not have. It's actually got only 4 which really limits things.

It seems like if I actually try using these it becomes barely worth it or is completely inefficient and would be cheaper to get refurb bigger drives.

How many ethernet drops per room?
2 or 4?

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I set everything up and there is nothing left to do. It's all running perfectly since years and more than the occasional update isn't required. It became just another household appliance because it feels so natural now. What do you do when you peak and there is nothing left to administrate?

>>103181922
A living room needs more than a bedroom. 2 for boring rooms, 4 for rooms with tech, and the total amount in your network operations centre.

How much WI-FI is too much WI-FI?
is it better to have a weaker signal on the other end of the house, or very strong signals everywhere with multiple APs?

>>103182302
use a mesh network if you are using more than one AP so there will one strong network running from different points

>>103182317
won't the APs radios lag each other?
it's just two APs, so it should cover the small apartment.

>>103175116
Anti static bags are inexpensive

>>103167270
Not pictured is the independently networked claymores that you have saturated across your property.

Game over FBI raid is a scenario anyone can plan for!

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>>103142458
Openwrt devices may be worth looking into

>>103159715
I'm a bad sysadming but I've been on it a little bit, with H@H you want uptime as long as you can. Slowly you will crawl up into bandwidth usage and onto the leaderboards.

Version     Max Speed     Trust     Quality     Hitrate
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>>103181922
>>103181943
>4 ethernet drops per room?
What the hell?
Why not just one drop into each room and add switches as needed?

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My stepfather got one of those Amazon eero routers and keeps telling me how it saved me from virus' along with the url i presume is a torrent tracker url.
Is there a way hide my DNS queries from it?
I have a glinet router that piggybacks off of the eero, will adguard and dnssec do what I'm hoping for?
This website says success after doing it https://wander.science/projects/dns/dnssec-resolver-test/

>>103183809
DoH/DoT for DNS, ESNI/ECHO if you need to hide SNI but most servers don't support this yet (fucking cloudflare get off your ass and finalize the draft so people start implementing it)

>>103183850
Hmm, browsing dies after I disable "plain DNS" even after enabling DoH/DoT and adding the adguard example https and TLS server and some quad9 ones.

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From £65($82)pm 900/100 to £35($44)pm 1000/1000

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Would appreciate some advice. I got an old Fujitsu thin client, shoved an HDD in it, and it now serves as a LAN file storage, torrent seedbox, pihole, and a Mini DLNA server for TV. It has a pretty low power draw, so it's on all the time.
Everything's pretty cool, except that the stupid LG smart tv doesn't understand come codecs, so it's a tossup whether the movie I downloaded will play properly, without sound, or without subtitles. How the fuck a TV doesn't understand DTS format is beyond me.
Anyway, I am considering streaming from a device to avoid this crap, either simply via HDMI cable or setting up Jellyfin or somesuch. Would it be better to:
a) Get a PCI-E riser and getting a basic discrete GPU to attach to the Fujitsu. Would a weak CPU cause any issues here?
b) Build an entire new device which can have greater power draw, but I will turn it on only when I intend to watch something on the TV. A CPU with integrated graphics can make do in this case, I suppose.

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why wouldn't this work?

>>103184162
wont get past 1gbit for a single connection but shit like torrents should work for >1gbit, also depends on the hash algorithm chosen for the LACP connection

>>103184162
2 x 1 Gb connection ≠ 2 Gb connection

>>103183224
it's easier, looks more neat. and because switches are for bitches.

>>103179311
>how well does it work for 2 users on the jellyfin server to sync playing back the same media?
is there some other way to use syncplay?

>>103184400
this, also LACP requires support on the switch.
Apparently you can do round-robin setup and achieve more than 1Gbps but not quite 2Gbps on a single connection, but not many routers or switches support it (and it's janky, as packets can arrive out of order)

>>103184896
Not that I know of, I thought syncplay was also a separate thing from jellyfin but I could be wrong.
>>103184074
>How the fuck a TV doesn't understand DTS format is beyond me
Licensing

>>103184956
LACP isn't janky unless the quality of the links is wildly dissimilar or damaged. 802.3ad (now ax) has existed as an IEEE standard since 2002, if a modern device doesn't support it, you're buying chinesium.

>>103185366
LACP is good, i've meant round-robin bonding is janky

>>103184400
>>103184956
>>103185366
My router supports 802.3ad, but thank you for the replies all

>>103185210
>I thought syncplay was also a separate thing from jellyfin but I could be wrong.
i dont think so. personally the umbrella term i used is “watch-together”.
to answer your question, syncplay uses basically zero bandwidth compared to actual video playback. the discrepancy in playback time is never zero, but your VOIP delay will almost certainly be considerably larger than it, so you wont really notice anything. as long as you can stream to multiple clients simultaneously, theres no reason you couldnt use syncplay.
if i remember correctly from the one time i used it, playback worked exactly as expected, pausing/resuming was mostly fine, and scrubbing was a bit iffy but workable. this was years ago when it was a relatively new feature and it may have been improved since.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/225639956399

Is this the most effective cost per TB in used/new market?

Any black friday sales going to beat this?

>>103186253
>$10+ a TB
Not even close, I just got 12 10TB for $4.6/TB.

>>103178219
If it has a good integrated GPU go for it.
>tfw UHD770

>>103186433
Damn that's super cheap. More info?

I am limited on drive bays. I'm half tempted to just bite the bullet and do the 14 TB anyway though. I'm looking to upgrade 3x 6 TB drives and 1x 2 TB drive.

For the 6 TB, the 6 to 10 TB jump is meh. The 2 TB to 10 TB may be nice though.

>>103186652
>Damn that's super cheap. More info?
Used SAS drives are usually a lot cheaper.

>>103186253
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074JJ2LDH/
Used - Like New = 85$ for 12TB
$7.08/TB
best I've found

>>103188965
>>103186253
https://www.ebay.com/itm/156046813385
12TB for $82 with 5 year warranty

>>103188994
oh wow its even sata

>>103186602
Only UHD630, but seems to be a trooper when it comes to transcoding

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>>103151884
Just get a custom loop for water cooling and use a big radiator.

Is there any way to combine a bunch of disks so they look like one folder but any individual file is on a single disk, so if one fails the whole thing just reduces in size rather than corrupting data on other disks?

>>103190188
mergerfs

>>103184447
how is routing 4 cables easier than just doing one and adding a switch?

>>103190245
silence, idiot.

>>103190240
That looks good, I just wanted to store stuff that I don't mind losing (stuff that can be re-downloaded rather than personal data). But it'd be nice if a drive fails to just lose the stuff on the one drive rather than corrupting the whole thing.

>>103190265
ok, autismo

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Just bought a Lenovo ThinkCentre M90s Gen3. Has an i5-12500, 16GB ram, 512GB SSD and cost about $115 USD.

What should I use it for? Media Server? HTCP? I already have an M720S with an i3-9100 running Proxmox, but I think this should be a decent upgrade.

>>103142458
just get an Asus and put Asuswrt-Merlin on it
>900 seconds
>fuck you gookmoot, I'm not paying for 4chan

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>>103190301
seafile
jellyfin
navidrome

>>103190301
literally whatever. I'm running plex and all the usual accessories + more on a shitty Acer desktop from Best Bu

>>103190301
>i5-12500
>$115 USD.
How?

If I use a pc for a router should I stuff a bunch of nics in it or use a switch? What sort of switches are best for this scenario? Managed ones?

>>103180699
>hey i bought this thing! what can i use it for??

Buy with intent. dont be a consumer.

>>103157362
i work at an isp in networking and dont have enough knowledge to pull this off lmao.

>>103183878
Nvm, got home today and having DNS issues. Reeeee

Are all selfhosted mail servers basically the same, i.e. dovecot + postfix in docker containers?

>>103140998
so phones tend to take those insanely high res images that are 8MB each or something.
I want my nextcloud instance to compress them the same way something like the MEGA phone app does.
Any ideas.

>>103192029
No there are solutions that don't use dovecot and there are a lot of differences with frontend services. For instance, you can get self-hosted disposable email servers like inbucket which are single binaries.

>>103191334
It was $3.
Of course I'm going to give it a roll.

>>103192898
Of course it was $3, what else would you expect of a thing with "POS" in the name?

>>103183224
>Why not just one drop into each room and add switches as needed?
Because you are an idiot and literally that is what companies do. One giant switch, the rest is cables and outlets. Fuck off if if you want 1 switch per room. Was a mistake we closed asylums.

>>103183224
nta, but i think it's good for future proofing. For example, my room will probably have the best LTE reception, so i might want to put the modem there, connect it back to the server room, and connect my rest of my devices through another run, without the need of VLANs.

>>103193015
>LARPan as le big company @ home
ok, autismo

>>103193196
I'm original anon that wanted to do this, it's just neater, I don't want to put in a switch in each room unless absolutely needed, like in a LAN party.
besides, I only have to set it up once.

>>103193354
fair enough. in my case it's actually neater and easier to have fewer cables; i don't mind having a switch in every room

>>103170680
not enough information to say

>>103191302
depends how many devices you have and how powerful the PC is and what you're trying to do with it.

I want to build my internal network to be able to handle 10Gbps. so, should I get 6 or 8 cores for the custom x86 10 gig throughput router? I want to also install a VPN and maybe IDS/IPS. but I heard that IDS/IPS are really taxing on the CPU, especially on a network throughput of 10GbE.

>every avenue to expand my lab is at least a 500 dollar project
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

>>103193974
it's such a shame right? I wanted to go with 40Gbps, but then I realized that I actually needed something closer to 400Gbps in order to actually get 40Gbps per client, and then I realized that 40Gbps is a fuck load of work and money too. so I just settled with 10Gbps and 2.5Gbps per device like a poorfag

>>103193495
10gbps of north south IDS/IPS will require more than 8 cores. if you're doing east west as well, forget the IDS/IPS unless you want to put one out of line and sample traffic to it with packet slicing or rate limiting.

>>103193994
Its truely pain
Even like 10g with the scale I want isn't cheap.
Getting slightly more modern hardware isn't cheap
Big fuckoff routers or switches are expensive
Properly built redundancy isn't cheap

>>103193994
>>103194028
>the lab MUST GROW
consoomerist mental illness. to people like you, no upgrade will ever be "enough".

>>103194028
The plan is to slowly build it up over time, the most important part is the house wiring, get fiber if you can to future proof.

>>103194062
Nigger, it's 2024, I NEED (((NEED))) 40Gbps directly to each device.

There are projects you could do that would provide tangible benefits and don't involve upgrading your whole infrastructure at enormous cost just to see peak file transfer number go up. I genuinely do not know what you could possibly need more than 2.5gbps for at home. You could do something super basic like optimise the layout of your wifi in your house. and it might not even cost anything, just relocate the APs.

>>103194028
>>103194028
>>103194070
40g per client is ridiculous and there's no way your clients can even make use of a 40g pipe in the first place. not to mention you wouldn't want to use a router for 10g or 40g for that matter, that's layer 3 switching territory. if you want to do cheap 40g you can just get two arista 7050qx-32s and put them in MLAG with one another. for cheap 10g (SFP based) you can do two arista 7050sx-64 in MLAG. then you'd have to by the transceivers and NICs which is where the real cost is.

>>103194062
I just want a proper network, the compute I wish I had someone else to work on.
>>103194070
I...I don't 1Gbps is fine, and all my compute should be in the same place anyways.
>>103194086
I just want redundancy

>>103194089
The latest USB standard is capable of 80Gbps, I can install backups so fast from that, why can't I have the same speeds on the network?

>>103194111
your hard drive speed is your bottleneck buddy. i work in HPC doing networking. you shouldn't do 40g to the desktop.

>>103194086
>I genuinely do not know what you could possibly need more than 2.5gbps for at home
2.5Gbps is around ~300MB/s, that's slow for file transfer in today's world of 200GB+ file sizes.
40Gbps makes sense and is a good speed but you have to pay out the ass.

There are also other things, such as being able to remote stream the PC down to the living room's TV with very little loss. that requires a lot more than just 2.5Gbps if I want as close a quality as my displayport outputs.

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hey lads, building my first NAS at work, please tell me if I'm being stupid
needed to store big 200GB media files, downloaded or copied from USB, then fed to several LAN machines
>4x Seagate Exos X18, 16 To - for RAID5
>Antec P101 Silent - it's got a nice rack for 8 disks so we can expand in a few years
>Intel Celeron G6900 (3.4 GHz) - cheapest here
>MSI PRO B760-P WIFI DDR4 - got a few good PCI
>G.Skill Aegis 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4 3200 MHz CL16 - 16GB seems enough but I'm thinking 32 just to be sure
>Samsung SSD 990 EVO M.2 PCIe NVMe 1 TB
>Textorm TX350+
>ASUS XG-C100C V2 - need me some 10Gbps LAN
>later on we'll get any Startech PCI 4xSATA to add more disks, I guess

>>103194229
What protocol lets you send display output over the network at the same bitrate as displayport/hdmi? What TVs even support this? Do the protocol(s) have HDR/dv support?

>>103194235
>Seagate IronWolf Pro 16 TB
same pricerange but better durability

>>103194384
don know, I don't know what the limits of UDP/IP are, but my point was that 2.5Gbps isn't enough either way.

Coming to think about it, it's actually funny how jewgle tried to launch a streaming service when most people barely have 100Mbps at home even today. Netflix quality gaming is just ass.

>>103194481
*25Mbps

>>103181931
How about you over administrate a dosage of opium anon.

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>>103194235
>my first NAS at work
wait, do i understand that right, is it supposed to be used at your workplace?
If so, please stop doing this shit immediately and buy a proper server, if you don't have space for a rack, there are tower servers/workstations too. If you're on budget, there's plenty of refurbished servers/workstations, and they will be much more reliable than all that consumer shit.
>Startech PCI 4xSATA
please please please read the thread, use ONLY SAS HBAs in IT mode, don't fucking risk it with those shitty adapters, especially not with company data.

>>103194206
Look I don't care if you go 10gb, 25gb or 40gb, but I'm calling BS that you are handling high volumes of 200GB+ file sizes in your home network. Just am.

Everybody hates on 2.5gbs but its a stable new standard that revolves around the standard speeds of three main things that every home network has.

(1) Modem (2.5gbps ports are the standard - xfininty, ubiquiti, comcast, cox, google fiber all committed to this speed as it closely aligns with home internet speeds. Sadly they didnt consult /hsg/ and our larp data center delusions
(2) High End Motherboards (2.5gbps ports are the standard now -again /hsg/ was not consulted)

(3) Routers + Wifi 6/ 6e Access Points (2.5gbps ports are the standard - again I am proud you managed to swindle off ebay an enterprise native 10bge router / firewall but these are obscenely expesive to get for most people)

I have a 2.5gbs managed switch and it works fantastic without any problems. You are being memed into buying 10+gbs network components for home networking.

>>103194858
Do you live under a rock? games alone are 200Gb now, anything other than text is in the tens of gigabytes.

>>103194783
yeah I'm the only tech savy person here
you're spooking me now, I'll have to look into all this

>>103194858
What if I just want enterprise kit?

>>103194923
Yes. I know. I have several.

I just want to understand why you you are copying an installed game (say RDR) back and forth from drives every hour?

I am not being sarcastic at all, I just want to understand this reasoning. If you are backing up FROM SCRATCH or replicating a large dataset daily, I can understand the need for this amount of network juice (i.e., 40gbs). But I still want to understand the "why" you need to do this?

For fun is a legitimate reason. No lies. Just be honest with me.

>>103194940
This is a legitimate reason. Thank you. I think enterprise shit is cool.

This leads me to my second question as to why people have to shit on 2.5gbs networking equipmen when enterprise shit at 10gbs is omnipresent. 2.5gbs makes sense for home networking for the reasons I mentioned.

>>103195032
Because I tinker around with gamedev/modding.

>>103195057
idk 2.5g I feel like you have to seek out at least in my enterprise world so it has little interest and I don't need more than a gig for any end device I have that isn't a server
>>103195191
Have you considered a jump box to work in?

>>103195212
No, I haven't. that might be a more efficient way of dealing with it on a network I guess.

>>103195319
There is latency with any sort of jumpbox/vdi/whatever you want to use.
But that would have been how I approached that sort of problem in the past, take with with a grain of salt as I am a network guy not a server guy

>>103195343
Should I care about a more expensive switch if I managed to get a cheaper one that can deliver 2.5g per port anyways? with features like PoE and level 3 smart management of course. is there a catch?

>>103194939
I'm gonna second what the other anon said. If it's for actual work, with critical data, don't cheap out. At minimum get a used, enterprise workstation with proper ECC memory. 1/2U, 4/8x3.5" racks aren't that hard to find used at all, and there are companies like Server Store or Metserver that will sell you everything and guarantee everything works when shipped, along with extended warranties. You can get a full system minus drives for like $400-500 and it's all proper, enterprise grade shit.

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>>103142458
Unironically I'd recommend Mikrotik. Hardware is solid, it does what it says it does, and the latest RouterOS and WinBox versions aren't as buggy as they have been in the past. My only regret is that I bought the hAP AX3 instead of the L009UiGS-RM. Not an issue this instant, but I'd rather have an AP for wifi, that I can upgrade as new wifi standards come out.

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Looking at getting a light VPS for some random stuff, which of these should I choose? I'm not very familiar with Linux.

>>103196015
Alma and Rocky are both basically the same and should be fine for your needs. Otherwise, Ubuntu.

>>103196015
Debian

>>103196015
Depends on your needs and skill level. Go Ubuntu (latest) if unsure.

>>103140998
youre only allowed to respond to this if you run arch on your home server.28r42

I just like tinkering around with my server, adding things and making existing stuff better. Its so comfy.

>>103198512
I do this but I also smoke a bowl of dude weed and tinker with my server with some music playing in the background. Peak comfort.

How is Linux Support for Intel E-Cores these days?

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I remember some dude trying to create a separate general for a while (/hng/ - Home Networking General) for networking stuff but it was way slower even than this and always died before ~30 replies. You guys told him to quit and just have networking stuff in here. Eventually either he gave up or the mods forced him to give up.

I bring that up because I have a networking question. Tech problem for my sister who lives half way around the world, that I want to solve remotely.
>fancy new home WiFi network (some mesh stuff going on, both bands named same and band steering going on, and WP3 security)
>old Samshit printer that worked on previous network doesn't connect any more
>my first suspicion is it can't into WPA3
>second suspicion is the band steering confusing it (it's only single band 2.4). Still, probably shouldn't be the case, it should just steer it towards the 2.4 broadcast
>it has ethernet but no ethernet port where it is situated
>she really doesn't want to move it, it's in the ideal place for her wfh office (next to the computer setup)
>i don't want to split the 2.4 and 5 bands, theyd have to reconfigure all their devices, including some smart home shit that would be a super big headache to reconfig. this is literally the only device that doesnt connect any more, don't wanna change just for this.
>i don't wanna downgrade their WiFi security to WPA2 for the same reason, this is the only device having problems.
>we could use an old all in one box and put it into bridge mode (connect to main router using ethernet, and use it to create a separate 2.4 wifi network that the printer would connect to), but i don't wanna do this because it'll add ANOTHER wireless soup theyre bathing in 24/7. im not schizo but i also think it aint good for us, the less the better where possible.......

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......So I have decided the best solution is some kind of device that can act as a 'client bridge' or in 'client mode'. Is that the right terminology? Basically the opposite of what I said about and old all-in-1 box. Instead of connecting to main box via ethernet and sending out WiFi, I want it to catch the WiFi from the main box and provide it to the printer using ethernet. So the printer can communicate via WiFi like normal, except it's not using it's own WiFi chip inside, but rather it's using the WiFi of the device it is connected to via ethernet, the devices shares/gives it's WiFi connection to the printer. I know Windows computers can have this if you configure it, by 'bridging' the WiFi and ethernet connections. (I know they can do the opposite too, by creating a hotspot, but that's of no use here).

So finally, my question: What's the cheapest device that can do this job (client bridge, client mode)? Must be able to into WPA3. 5GHz would be a bonus, but maybe not necessary if band steering works properly.

I was looking some sort of cheap TP-Link extender. I've read some only them can be put into 'client mode' which is what I want. But I have a concern about TP-Link, don't all of their things have to be configured through the internet? So they're all botnet?
Are there any brands or other types of devices that are less botnet?

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>>103196075
>>103196580
>>103198012
>went with Alma
>try to get into box
>tells me to use putty
>putty won't let me type password in
>oh wait, it is, it just doesn't show ANYTHING
>get in
>just a terminal
>go to main control panel on website
>also just terminal
>realize there's no gui installed
>search up commands
>nothing but the barest of bare is installed
>figure out how to do basic updates
>figure out how to check hardware
>haha I'm learning
>GPU is apparently some ancient ass accelerator with 1mb of video memory from the mid 90's
Will I actually be able to get a modern GUI working on that kind of hardware?
>also mfw the terminal said 700 something failed login attempts in 5 hours

>>103199931
Your last point is the solution and yes it is a schizo thing to be worried about if you think wifi is bad you should never fly in a plane because you get bombarded with high energy radiation that does actual real damage compared to standing on the earths surface.

>>103201229
put your wifi router next to your head while you're sleeping if you believe it's not harmful

How does one setup a reverse proxy?

>>103201413
You have your phone in your pocket all day long and probably sleep with that next to your bed and put it on your head to take calls dumbass. There has not once ever been a respectable study on the radiation from celluar/wifi which has concluded it is harmful, at the levels you'd receive from consumer equipment. it's non ionizing. Now if you stuck your hand in a microwave and turned it on the story might be different but it's exactly the same radiation as from wifi and all it would do it burn the fuck out of your hand because it is specifically tuned to heat up water molecules.

>>103201492
nginx and have your ddns setup

>>103201624
Environmental Health Trust, et al. v. Federal Communications Commission" (No. 20-1025)

you are a stupid person. also i keep wifi off at my house, use a landline, and work in a sensitive facility without any wifi or phones allowed. when my phone is at home and not actively in use it is in airplane mode. i have very minimal exposure. out of curiosity what is your BMI?

>>103201664
>Environmental Health Trust, et al. v. Federal Communications Commission" (No. 20-1025)
That case has literally nothing to do with human exposure, nor is it a study.

>>103201664
not a study. not wrong either as the FCC SHOULD be updating it's policies with modern reviews of new studies, which is the outcome forced by this case. When they do they'll have countless studies to review which show it's not harmful. You can believe whatever schizoid garbage you want but that ruling in way confirmed wireless to be harmful or even hinted at it. My BMI is normal but I do find it hilarious you chose to attack me over that, since BMI itself is outdated and inaccurate. But then chose to completely ignore my point about flying. I assume you don't fly then since you are so careful about uneccessary radiation exposure? I hope you don't eat bananas either since you would be ingesting ionising radiation directly. stop wasting my time with your nonsense.

>>103193196
>waste electricity on 20 appliances that have 20 PSUs rather than use one 1 appliance with 1 PSU
you cannot into logical thinking, why are you on a board for technologists?
The idiot containment board is right there >>>/x/

>>103193431
>i don't mind having a switch in every room
because you are stupid and cannot plan ahead and have to use crutches because your failed to have extra capacity ready beforehand

so you use 1 cable per room and then switch it. but I doubt these cables are 10 gbit/s and your switches neither are else you'd be broke
now you have a bottleneck in every room because you are stuck on 1 cable that is 1 gbit/s with devices that can easily push more than that in total
you are buttfucking dumb, nice fucking bottleneck

How do you guys rout ethernet cables around your home? I've just tested one of the adhesive clips I ordered and it will absolutely take the paint with it when removed. Looking for potential solutions.

>>103202717
Not him but trying to understand better. Take, for example, devices that aren't all going to be using the wired connection at once. Such as a TV station with multiple games consoles. You're not going to be using the internet capability of all of these devices at the same time, therefore concurrency isn't a concern, right?
A switch + 3-4 short cables is absolutely cheaper than a bigger switch + long as fuck cables.
Is this an acceptable use case for a smaller capacity switch or is this also likely to produce issues?

>>103201917
>BMI itself is outdated and inaccurate
lmfao dont moralize about health fat boy.

>>103201808
hey where did the goalpost go? try reading the case.

>>103202717
I'm aware of this and it basically a non-issue to me, since my WAN caps out way before link speed and I rarely have any simultaneous east/west connections.

>>103202706
I don't have 20 rooms to put 20 switches into, lmao. I doubt there's a significant difference in electricity usage from several tiny switches and one big one. Having to plug a device in each room isn't ideal, but, in my case, neither is running extra long cables to each room.

>>103202794
Works fine for me, but as you can see it might upset some hsg autists.

>>103202742
under the carpet + cable clips

>>103203265
I know you're just trolling, but he's right - BMI does not differentiate between fat and muscle

what do you need multiple ethernet ports in every room of the house for do you have spy cams in them or something

>>103203394
i'm in a house share scenario and most of us WFH, so there's many PCs, game consoles, WAPs, plus i piggyback some connections from one room to another

>>103200024
>light vps
>GUI
You are using a VPS wrong . They are for headless applications not virtual desktops. You'll have to learn how to use the terminal to deploy stuff on the cloud since renting video cards is expensive.

>700 something failed login attempts in 5 hours
Welcome to the internet