Sales edition MKIIHow to request advice:>Budget>Intended use (media, source, environment)>Frequency response preference and music examples>Past gear and your thoughts on themFAQ:>Where do I buy IEMs?Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio>Shopping Guide (IEMs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):https://rentry.org/consoomer_guide>EQ Guide (Measurements, Targets, Equalizer, etc.):https://rentry.org/IEM-EQ-Guide>/iemg/ Proto-Blog/Wikihttps://rentry.org/iemgazette>Frequency Response Graph Toolsquig.link>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:• EPZ Q1 Pro / G10 (Harman) - $35• TRN Conch (bright V) - $35• Kefine Delci (bassy neutral) - $75• Simgot EA500LM (bright V) - $90>Bullet IEMs:• Final E500 (dark) - $25• Tanchjim One DSP (neutral) - $30• Etymotic ER2XR (neutral) - $100>Flathead Earbuds:• Blue Vido (warm) - $5• Faaeal Iris 2.0 (warm) - $10>USB-C DACs:• Fosi Audio DS2 (CS43131) - $45• Tanchjim Space - $90• Qudelix 5K - $110>PMPs:• Shanling M0s - $100• Hifi Walker H2 / Surfans F20 (Rockbox) - $120• HiBy M300 - $200• Hidizs AP80 Pro-X - $200Previous thread: >>103135437
reminder that anons intentionally give bad advice about how you don't need a DAC etc because they're secretly wannabe music producers who want to keep people from obtaining anything resembling studio quality gear because they're scared of competition
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>>103152421cute tanch
/r/ing cheap TWSpos that's actually waterproof. I've been considering moondrop space travel as a cheap beater despite not being waterproof, but the battery life is dogshit.
>>103152496Edifier claims IPxx resistance for some models (whatever their newest TWS Pro model is). Do I really trust them? No, but they claim it.
Daily reminder that you cant eq the soundstage.
>>103152524false: just did.
>>103152528All you did was PK 10k +5dB
>>103152559n-no...i did other stuff too...
>>103152524what influences soundstage?
>>103152577Lower ear gain and some random fuckery at treble range depending on the person.
>>103152577https://rentry.co/iem-eq-guide#separation-imaging-and-soundstage
>>103152421Is CCZ a KZ brand like CCA?
>>103152524>>103152577Only speakers have soundstage. It's created by room reflections. Soundstage in IEMs/headphones is pure schizophrenia. You can get brainwashed into hearing soundstage in them but it's not related to anything objective and it disappears over time. If the tonality is vastly different from what you're used to it can also manifest as soundstage, for a time.
>>103152453Can confirm, I'm a producer and I only use tape. No self-respecting producer uses digital audio.
>>103153005based adc enjoyerdac users should burn themselves, nobody uses digital sources for production unless you're a retard normieget yourself analog synths and keebs if you have self-respect
>>103152929No but afaik it's from kbear.
>>103152093The doc's final price includes the discount from the ali coupons too. If you're getting something from the hifigo site, it's naturally going to be more expensive but in some shitholes, ali's shipping is prohibitively expensive which makes hifigo cheaper since they offer free shipping.
budget endgame redeemed
>>103152453secretly wannabe music producer here, everything has a built-in DAC aside from very edge cases like Raspberry Pi which has PWM instead to save costs, even a shitty PC motherboard has a fully functional DAC onboard, so the term "DAC" to describe only a dedicated external sound card is dumb at the very least
>>103153176Non pro genuinely looks better.
>>103153214those are not real dacs desu~
>>103153241they by definition are as real as dedicated "DACs" as in the marketing buzzword
was thinking of getting the gato this 11.11 but the chink cum pics actually make me want to not buy it fml
>>103153225yeah, it seems to be a common consensus that the sound on the non pro is better out of boxbut pretty much all reports confirms that everything else about the pro are considerably better, from build, finish, qc, app support, features like anc being much better, etcI'm still going to need to EQ the pros regardless anyway
>>103153277redeem wankers thank you
>>103153225>that rolloffWhere did they even find such awful drivers.
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>>103153311updated sheethttps://cryptpad.fr/sheet/#/2/sheet/view/mCVEa7zmSkDh0e9R6P2bjlGTxzZLMkLyNyEVEldFmXo/embed/
>>103153298>>103153277I hope you realize every single DD has the cum all over it lmao. This was a thing with Hola. It’s a thing with wankers and 7hz and like every single brand.
>>103153336i mean it's one thing to have cum, a completely different thing to show it so proudly
>>103153336Fox piss has no cum inside.
Post them 11.11 orders, anons. Sucks having small earholes and can't use half the "good" iems because nozzles are too big.
>>103153311I don't live in the US and it says doesn't work in my region.
>>103153349not after it comes under my possession
>>103153365why did you buy that pos...
Got a klean for 31 bucks pre-tax, just stack the coupons, coins and the google pay thing
>>103153349fox takes only cultured pee, he's not a wanker
>>103153365Nothing really on sale, but i bought Fiio JM21 and the Kinera bluetooth Adapter, maybe it's finally a good budget adapter.
there's no more KZ I can buy, I have them allmaybe except some Joyodio memes
Haven't had planars since timeless(absolute garbage), is sgor luna any better?
>>103153674planars are all dogshit
dang, sucks for us europoors that USD is going up as all the prices are derived from thatIt's ruining 11.11 for me, thanks Trump
>>103153674S12 Pro is top tier pos
>>103153405>small shell>small nozzle>material isn't total pos like salnotes zero>prettyEverything else can be EQ'd. Comfort is king.
>>103153694Nobody asked.
>>103153710>prettywould have redeemed if not for the shit ass lettering
>>103153713anon literally asked about planars you sub-21 IQ imbecile
>>103153735Read again.
>>103153311>richfags get discounts>poorfags get shit
Got gumiho for $18 from hot deals. Obligatory meme purchase complete.
>>103153674>>103153679Planars are good if you like planars.If you don't like planars, they're not good.Glad I could help.
>>103153859objectively planars bring nothing to the table that dynamic drivers don'tthey're all relying on shit tuning for that planar sound
>>103153765God hates us poorfags
>>103153873That's obvious, planars are just weird DDs after all
>>103153765maybe the poorfag codes are planned for black friday instead, right? right????
>>103153899poorfags will forever remember the $3 off for every $15 days...
>>103153859Is sgor luna less planar than timeless?
>>103153873They have 2.5-20k earraep treble plateau, DD can only do peaks.
Any progress in chink dentphones? Heard ft1 and ar5000, the treble is really bad.
Do iem's benefit from balanced termination?
>>103153972No, in general you want as little power for IEMs as necessary, otherwise there might be hiss.
>>103153984does the impedance and sensitivity rating have something to do with the hiss?
>>103153972On paper yes. In reality it is more detrimental as balanced output consumes like 30-40% more power leading to faster battery wear.
>>103154095No, hiss is generally caused by hiss.
https://youtu.be/-77OuuYo1TM
>>103154206But that cunsoomption isn't really substantial if I... listen from my PC right?>>103154210Instructions unclear, now my penis is stuck inside the nozzle.
>>103154210hiss is in the source, sensitivity is in pos and the lower sensitivity, the less audible hiss
>>103154350techs are in the hiss
Fiio HS20 arrived today. Probably my new favorite sticky tips.Basicly just very sticky versions of the HS18.
>>103154393techs are stored in the balls
>>103154393That's technically true, techs and hiss are closely related
>>103154454hiss, euphonic distortion and atrocious tuning result in kilobuck-grade overwhelming techs, that's why technical kilopos like Campfire Audio or Subtonic Storm among others have all three ingredients
>>103154269If you are listening from PC it will not make a big difference. I consciously switched back to 3.5 from 4.4 because you get better compatibility with different sources. Also after blasting my ears a few times at full volume by accident I am totally schizo about it happening again, and it is way much worse with 4.4
so what are we getting for 11/11? I am getting the blessing 3 as an upgrade from hexa
>>103154517guess I will have to experiment on my own to find if its worth it
>>103154538Fox IEM, fox cable and fox TWS.
>>103154393Hiss is like upscaling for dry studio masters.
AliExpress sale is here, so my urge to consoom is getting to me. I'm quite happy with my Artti T10 I bought months back, with micropore tape and EQ it impresses me with pretty much everything I play, they respond really well to EQ. But of course, I end up getting bored with headphones and IEMs, and always want to try something new. I was thinking either EW300 or EA500LM, but are those more of a sidegrade than a direct upgrade to the T10?My budget is up to $150. I like the "techs" of the T10, I think I'm looking for an even better detail monster, if that helps.
Where is the bnnuy, Jim?
>>103154671there is no upgrade once you eq
>>103153734you mean, awful lettering?
>>103154675terrible bass from the looks of it but if they get mids and treble right it could be ok
>>103154671The artti t10 with some modding is functionally on par with 1400$ POS (btw people reviewing the solos report they sound on par with other kilobuck IEMs lol, it's literally just placebo snake oil), there is no improvement
>>103154805>sound on par with other kilobuck IEMs lolOfc they do, techs can't be EQed
>this $20 chi-fi piece of shit made by some no name chink company is on par with something that costs $1400! trust me bro!the poorfag cope in this general is always hilarious
>>103154671>>103154805Oh for fuck's sake, I just ordered my T10 and now you've made me think about modding it before I even got it
>>103154878The t10 and Solos use the same driver anon
>muh driversCope, the only thing that matters is aesthetics.
>>103154881even without modding T10 is quite a timeless IEM (although with more subbass)
>>103154906>Be 64 audio >Use a 30$ POS bellsing planar instead of R&Ding their own planar like Audeze would in their 1400$ kilobuck pos
>>103154878>hurr durr more money = betterThe braindead consoomer snake oil drinking is always hilarious
>>103154878>is on par$20 pos is better.
>>103154929LCD i4s are great, but they're a totally different thing entirely.
That PRX air tech lmao. Though tbf bass and mids seems perfect on paper for planar set more so than T10.
>>103154929Bellsing solved planar drivers and IEM drivers in general.
>>103154906that's pretty dope looking ngl
>>103154944>kz>tech
>>103154878>$1,400>$50 no name chink driver
Thoughts on BQEYZ?
>>103154986keeeekkkk
a moondrop dawn pro is basically the same thing as a fosi ds2, right?
>>103154986$1000 faceplate.
>>103154986thus proved that FR is all that matters
>>103154889feelsnotsure manWhile the drivers do look nearly identical.... ah never mind, who am I kidding.I'm just surprised that Artti got a driver with the print while 64 could be arsed to do that. Also the tuning chamber is a tiny bit different as Artti's doesn't have the 2 little indentations on it.
>>103154986The cable is obviously worth 1300 bucks.
>>103155027FR literally doesn't matter, you just get used to it. Only the aesthetics matter.
>>103155041artti looks like massive pos while solo is simply pos, obvious what the better choice is
>>103154986>>103155036I mean without the print
>>103155041You also get used to aesthetics doe. Therefore none of it matters, just buy KZ POS and stop browsing.
dunu kima 2, yes or no?
>>103155061>just buy KZ
>>103155024>>103155037I must admit that the faceplate is very aesthetically pleasing, albeit not $1300 worthy.
>>103154986>Micro Custom 14.3mm driver>says 14.2 on the driver itselfkek, I'd bet it's actually 14 in reality
>>103155087In planars the outer part acts as the surround so the active area is like 7mm in reality, which is why their treble is closer to 7mm DDs like ie200.
>>103154986>>103155060>>103155087So... I've read a lot comments that T10 uses same drivers as S12, but this is 14.2 and S12's is supposedly 14.8mm... are there any known S12 teardown pics?
Underrated pos?
>>103155115it's the same one
Just wanted to remind you guys about the TRN MT5. Pretty good, should be very cheap right now.
>>103155145Dunno, some details are different so it might not be the exact same driver
Your music was created on DDs, reject meme drivers.
>>103155184But a planar is just a DD, except flat
I don't even know what planar sound is supposed to mean and why it's special. It's just sound. I don't hear any special characteristics.
>>103155184>(ortho)dynamic driverclose enough?
>>103155232the bass snappiness, the extra treble twang, the blazingly fast transients, the vocal texturing and layering...it's sound 2.0++
>>103152453Hey nigger, I slowed down minimum vs linear phase samples to amplify the difference and pre-ringing is absolute cancer. Why are you shilling this garbage?
>>103155108>>103155203only planars with circular coil like SPD and shit from moondorp golden ages are like that, orthodynamic planars like this one >>103155145 use the whole square-shaped coiled surface to generate the sound, its diagonal is not smaller by much than the diameter of the whole driver and while there are indeed paddings, the active surface moves perfectly evenly with no need for hard coating that would still bend and make the movement of the DD uneven regardless
>>103155319>the active surface moves perfectly evenlyHow can it move evenly if it's clamped around the rectangular perimeter? It'll obviously be more free to move in the center than by the edges.
>>103155319>orthodynamic planars like this one >>103155145 use the whole square-shaped coiled surface to generate the soundThink logically. How would a membrane under tension move perfectly evenly. What would return it to the center. Why are they made from a flexible material. SPD actually has a dedicated surround.
>buy $20 apple earpods usb-c>apple dongle built-in>better sound than any chifi>no eartip itchiness and hella comfy>best mic
>>103155413what's that mouse? Langzu? Tangzu?
>>103155413skibidi cool your rizz pos mog all iem
>>103153365>11.11 ordersMoondrop Discdream 2 $80Tanchjim Origin $143Feeling content. On the fence about Pula Anvil114 or FiiO JM21
>>103155489>discdream 2lmao>originwhy that pos...
>>103155256These sound like buzzwords to me.
>>103154991>Thoughts on BQEYZ?I tried Winter Ultra and was not impressed. Subpar tuning, techs on par with the EA500's of the world>>103155023>moondrop dawn pro is basically the same thing as a fosi ds2, right?Dawn Pro allows some settings (gain, filters) to be tweaked via app. DS2 is a bit more powerful (irrelevant and overkill for the majority of IEMs)>>103155115>are there any known S12 teardown pics?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gu1a1_frXsThey're all similar planars from the same source in every IEM when it's 14.xxmm
>>103155145>S12...Just get the Prestige LTDs for endgameThe Saint has said this countless amount of times.
>>103155638you are corny as fuck
>>103155413i can understand no numpad but how do you live without a home or an end key
>>103153176>Codecs: LDAC, AAC, SBC>no aptX or aptX HDIsn't this a huge L to TWS audiophiles?
>>103155489Hmm Origin seems tempting at that price...
>>103155770aptx is worse than ldac. On some signals it's even worse than sbc. It's only good for low latency aka gaming, even then good is in huge quotation marks, it's like 60ms in most cases.
>>103155446Probably a lamzu thorn or something. I had their Atlantis and it ended up with double click issues. Don't buy chink mice unless it has hotswap.
>>103155588>14.3mmWould you look at that, exactly as the driver oem's listing claimsGuess now I'm convinced they're all the same driver
>>103155793I see. Thanks for the response. I think I might order a pair too.
>>103155839I suppose this pic is good enough that you could also calculate T10's driver size if you had it's shell's exact diameter but yeah there's no doubt at this point.
>>103155588>They're all similar planars from the same source in every IEM when it's 14.xxmmehh dunno, just lookin at this guy's videos, Hidizs MP145 driver looks fairly different from the other ones mentioned
>>103155982Don't know about the driver but the shell shape is absolute aids, avoid. It even rivals z1r.
>>103155982The plastic housing can be a different color, and the back volume chamber can have a different design. Easy as heck 3-D printed part to change, and yes it does slightly affect the sound, but it's not indicative of "in-house," development. MP145 driver is from the same source
a 15mm planar by KZ would be interesting to see.
>>103156557fuck it, give me 16mm
>>103156557>interesting to seenot to hear though
>>103156566I mean, KZ's marketing would love that with their hilarious exaggerations.
Even if I have sony headphones should I consider EQing? Or is that something for IEMs?
>>103156744dentpos do NOT react well to EQ, so don't even botherinstead try repositioning the pads and voila
>>103156744Everything needs EQ. The problem is with headphones you can only trust graphs from 200Hz to 1500Hz, beyond that you have to use your ears.
>>103156774>dentposWhat does that mean?>>103156787>Everything needs EQEven my shittty monitor speakers?>beyond that you have to use your earsCould I just use someones AutoEQ parametrics? Or does ear shape, canal and pad position change that much?
>buy headpos>unpredictable behavior above 2khz>unpredictable behavior below 150hz
>>103156828>Unpredictable under 150hzAnon making no sound is a predictable behavior
>>103156800>Even my shittty monitor speakers?EQ is mandatory for speakers because of room modes.>Could I just use someones AutoEQ parametrics? Or does ear shape, canal and pad position change that much?Pad condition alone can change the sound of headphones by 10dB. The same headphones on different heads can differ by 15dB, even after you subtract intentional interaction with your ear anatomy.
>>103156850>Pad conditionInteresting, I have been using pads with the foam completely out on the inside edge for over a year, new foam should arrive because of the 11.11 promotion, will compare them then too.
>>103156828Hd800s is one of the best behaving headphones, when you have some small closed-back it gets much worse.
>>103156774>>103156828They sound better doe, and that's all that matters
>>103156940Better than what.
>>103156940>headpos>sound betterlolthere's a reason /hpg/ is so dead compared to /iemg/nobody's falling for this meme anymore
Gonna order Fiio btr17 from ali, bros
When I play this track on IEMs the sound goes around my head about 5cm away from it. On headphones not only is it inside my head but I can't even tell whether it's supposed to be in front or behind me. I estimate that headphones only play 30% of audio.https://youtu.be/qV6q_87qx3Q
>>103157018Why...
>>103156943Than in-ear dildos>>103156998Yeah, the reason is that headphones owners are enjoying their music while POS collectors continue their fruitless search for good sound. lol
>>103157045I need a versatile portable source for 200$ budget that I could plug in into my devices or connect by BT whenever I want
>>103157069>Than in-ear dildosFalse.
>>103157071It's fiio... It won't connect...
>>103157069>enjoying their musicsomehow i doubt that lmao
>>103157100With a little bit of chanting I would appease the machine spirit surely...[spoiler]I wanted to get qudelix but its annoying as fuck to ship it where I live, so...[/spoiler]
>>103157121Hope you get lucky. Ka17 is literally the only dongle that didn't work with my phone. Out of like 20 dongles.
>>103157089>False.False.>>103157109Doesn't really matter if u doubt or not, the numbers dont lie
My Artti T10 hurt in my ears after some time. What would you recommend?
>>103157185>the numbers dont lieThe numbers say headphones suck.
>>103156787Ok I used the AutoEQ what the fuck, the difference is extremely noticeable. Thank you
>>103157218Of course the difference is noticeable, but is the result correct? The only way to know for sure is to have speakers.
>>103157189ciem.
>>103157258>is the result correct?Not sure, but the sound is more pleasing.>to have speakersWhy?
>>103157024>headphones only play 30% of audioso is this why dentpos fags spend tens of thousands on audio gear just to achieve the sonic fidelity that even a $15 IEM can provide by default? LMFAO
If you don't have at least ONE TANCHJIM IEM, you do not belong here. Your kind is not welcome.
>>103157205Headphone buyers stop after 1, maybe 2 because they liked their purchase. Meanwhile some of you mfers have been in here for literal years lel>>103157322Just say you're poor, we get it
this but truthear gate instead
I redeemed the waifu dac
>>103157350headpos buyers buy two headpos (only ones available on the market) and have to cope with subpar audio quality (cant eq)
>>103157363>wasting money on dacsHope you're powering a planar headphone or something and not some shitty $50 iem.
>>103157363>waifu dac>no waifupffft
>>103157380Everything in this hobby is a waste of money
Just bought the Tanchjim Cable X for my Tanchjim Cora!
>>103157375Only needed two to perfect the device. Meanwhile e-waste companies keep shitting out 8 new plastic POS per week and still haven't managed to make anything good. Sad!
>>103157363Wrong model.
>>103157396see >>103156828
>>103157363Saar that's not the waifu dac...
Headpos owners will see time variant behavior on their headpos (pad compression) and think they have reached the pinnacle of sonics kek
>>103157408>tanch is rubbing offuhhhh tanchsisters???!?
>>103157421Blindbro...
>>103157408bro please clean your shit...also wtf happened to her
>>103157421I'm rubbing off too.
>>103157401>>103157408Tbh I bought the Dawn Pro to stop myself from buying the Luna
>>103157439It's futile. Wasted money AND time.
>20+ new PPM (POS per month)>still nothing worth buyingKekaroo
>>103157491you haven't seen the hbb collab yet huh?
>>103157491
>>103152454Based, got a discount on a wireless controller, ty
any deals for chu 2 anti cloging filtars sirs?
>>103157533Alright fine, maybe there is one decent POS
>Zeos gave P5+2 a 8.5/10that's like a C- translated to real review. holy pos glad i skipped
>>103157665Why even waste your time watching him
>>1031574915+2 solved all IEMs at all price points
>>103157665Needs 300% bass boost
>>103157665Why did you watch that pos...>>103157779Averi solved all technology.
>>103155280the pre-ringing is in the inaudible frequencies when played at normal speed
>>103158082Minimum phase sounds fine at any speed.
>>103157594in my country there's a welcome deal for new accounts so it costs $2-5 for 10 pairs depending on how big the discount is at the moment, and it takes some computer literacy to bypass their samefag detection algorithms
>>103157745it took one second to read the rating in description. didn't listen to a single word of the video
>want a fox DAC >it's $5kFuck.
>>103157189>My Artti T10 hurt in my ears after some time. What would you recommend?Spinfit style ear tips. Audiosense S400 are a cheap alternative from Aliexpress, or get W1 in your correct size. Can also try more contoured resin shell IEMs like EPZ Q1 Pro, Aful Explorer / 5+2, etc.
>2 deleted postshow do you fuck up this bad, this is just embarassing
>>103157189a silver bullet through the heart
>>103152421I had a pair of apple earpods that I lost. They were quite comfortable and I liked using them at the gym. Any recommendations for replacements or should I just buy another pair of earpods? I don't want to spend more than $20
>>103159073You want isolating or non isolating? Unironically if they fit well a lot of TWS work well because they have sweat/water resistance
imagine you're an eartip and you need to hug kadenz's nozzle lip O.O
>>103159180I honestly don't really care as long as they're comfortable. Maybe something that doesn't protrude very far out so I can lay in bed with them on. That's only a secondary purpose though.
>>103159215some people like those spiky ribbed dragon dildos. those same people buy coomdrop
>>103153311all of these say they're single use and won't work
>>103155489how did you do origin at $143?
>>103159394see>>103152388
>>103159401For anyone wondering, those big codes are region specific
>>103159401>>103159420yeah this doesn't work, the $60 off thing says it is already used and is one time use.
>>103159439also the store coupons aren'nt working and say >This coupon code is for single use only and can't be used here
>>103159420>>103159439>>103159447It's because it's USA only.
>>103159501that can't be it cause spoilers, I'm USA.
The right side of my mmcx cable is breaking (I think the cable not the mmcx connector). Any recommendations this one is silver plated I'd prefer a darker less noticeable silver or just black. It's slightly under 1 meter something longer than that would be better to get comfortably under a jacket. At max maybe 20 yuro but preferably around 10.
>>103159232If you were comfortable with shitty earpods then maybe you’d like the moondrop block although I don’t think they’re water resistant.I loved my pair of moondrop quarks 1. If you have an android with actual USB-C then quarks 2 should be great and they’re very low profile comfortable and will sound better than earpods.Soundpeats clear are TWS stems good tuning fit similar to airpods pro probably.Might be one of your better bets.>anything TWS will be planned obsolescence but who cares if they’re $20 throwaways anyways right?
>>103159638most standard cable lengths are 1.2m. look up openheart cable on aliexpress, select an mmcx one. note that there are specific mmcx for sennheiser ie-series / akg n5005, so don't buy those listings unless you have those iems. they are fairly good about putting red warnings specifying the cable type
>>103159638and if not openheart, there are many hundreds of nicehck cables. avoid cloth / fabric covered ones, they have much worse microphonics (transmit noise when brushed / rubbed against)
>>103159919i really like the openheart cable even as someone who likes a blacked out look. it's a bright silver, almost white, but it's really clean and the connectors are black.
they do have a grey version but check review pics
Redpill me on trn conch pleaseThey cost $25 in my cunt are they fine??
>>103160313Or should i get EPZ Q1 Pro?The price is the same
>>103160313>>103160337q1 pro probably will fit better. conch is nice if you want to tinker around and add foams / filters to nozzles (additional cost: get simgot tuning kit)
Thoughts on kefine klean?
>>103160354Thank you!!!
>>103152421Guys i need your help. I finally got my first job and I want the best tws I can get for like 50-60 dollars (heh). What should I buy? The moondrop ultrasonic ones seem pretty to look at, but I don't know much more. Help
>>103160433they're solid>>103160609get moca instead
>>103160354But how do they compare to Tanchjim One DSP?
>>103160775I mean it has a nice app, which is good since i don't want to go deep into an eq hole
So what makes some DAC more expensive than others?
the waifu.
I don't know if this is the right thread but I'll askRecently my ipod nano died after years of use, im looking for a new mp4 that is reliable, easy to use, and affordable Any recommendations?
>>103161777what's your budget? do you want to only use it offline or do you also want online features like spotify/tidal/youtubemusic?
>>103161788Purely offline>budgetLess than 30$?
>>103161919nigga
>>103161919buy a knife and steal one
>>103161985>>103161992Alright just tell me what is out there anyway
>>103161919>>103162007legit don't have anything good to recommend under $100 bro sorry. Maybe the hiby r1 but that's $85
>>103162039>touch screen is there something with buttons instead?
>>103162060buttons are obsolete
>>103161919Grab refurbished sony x compact.
>>103162060surfans f20 but that's $113
>>103162132?????No they aren't, I prefer the feel of feedback in my fingers, when I'm doing something I don't like loosing focus to pay attention to a little screen
>>103162060Zishan z5c
Is it better to have multiple $100~200 pos or 1 kilopos?
>>103162208then what you want is a desktop dac
>>1031622371 blu vido. case in point.
Thoughts on CVJ Yukimi? Pretty much only want to buy because I think it's pretty.
>>103160775Anyone...?
>>103162500tanch one is a bulletpos, completely different fit and form as compared to conch and epzyou cant exactly compare them its apples to grape
>>103162519Oh i see... I'll get q1 pro thenThanks
I bought the Chink Measurbator's Supershilled Truthear Zero: RED's for the 11.11 sale. Was it a good choice?
>>103162592For how much?
>>103162592I have the reds, they perform really well. Only potential issue for you with them is the size of the stems. They're on the thicker side so it can be tricky to find eartips to fit them if you don't like the included tips. If these are your first IEMs you'll want to make sure you're fully inserting them or you're going to miss out on some of that sub-bass.
>>103162157>>103162200I'll check these out, I have 30$ extra cash so I was looking for something in that range that I can buy immediately, but I can buy these if I save up a little. I just need a replacement for my Ipod nano, something small and simple that just works>>103162275nigga, this is not an mp4....
>>103160609qcy melobuds pro is overall best under 100moondrop moca has the best sound since it's audiofool but everything else is lackluster, it doesn't even have ip rating, may as well just get an iem at this pointif you know how to eq, melobuds pro mogs everything under 100
>>103162751>mp4get the hell out with that boomer ass technologywe all use mp5 here
>>103162853Ok lil nigga I'm trusting you, though I find suspicious that a 30$ tws is better than anything else under 100$
>>103163052>though I find suspicious that a 30$ tws is better than anything else under 100$you are in /iemg/, anonthe entire point of this general is lurking, learning and finding cheap chinkslop that are competitive options against luxury optionsexpensive doesn't necessarily means good either, you could be getting scammed >>103154986
thoughts on kz pr1/pr2/pr3?are they better than EPZ Q1 Pro
>>103163115>Planar vs DD
>Double Gauss Planar lenses are highly sought after but planar pos are notwhy?
>10%Is clipping even real?
>>103163302There's hardware clipping and software clipping. This shows software clipping.
There's also software volume and hardware volume, windows uses hardware volume when possible.
Campfire acoustics technology is way ahead of the competition, poorfags will never understand secret sauce tuning
>>103163695The sauce:
I fell for the DAC meme
>>103163726Your dac isn't good enough bwo
>>103163804*ends your career*
>>103163804wtf even is that thing?is that a tiny USB power bank to power it?
>>103163825It's cuck tech.
>>103163804What's the point of this shit? You can't carry it outside.
>>103163713>Campfire Audio R&D room (please knock)
>>103157363Based. Works great with my 4.4 iems.
>>103163115>thoughts on kz pr1/pr2/pr3Afaik neither of these are good. I myself had a listen to PR3 and the piercing highs nearly made my ears bleed.The only planars from KZ supposedly worth considering are PR1 Pro and PRX but I haven't had a listen to them.But if you want a cheap planar then probably SGOR Luna is actually your best bet right now.No clue how any of these compare to the EPZ you mentioned though.
>>103163115pr1 has the highest distortion of any IEM I heard. Infinitely worse than q1 pro. Didn't bother with other PR's.
What's a good ~100 buck IEM for actual sound monitoring? Can be a bit more on the bassy side, mostly for electronic music.I have zero experience with IEMs and I'm just tired of carrying big ass headphones around.Thanks lads.
>>103163818fox anon should buy this
>>103164016Your welcome anon
>>103164016The only actual requirements for monitoring IEMs are noise isolation and comfort. Our recs are all vented so they only provide medium isolation. Shure and westone IEMs are made for your purpose, just don't expect them to sound great.
One advantage /iemg/ has over /hpg/ is how much chinkshit we can stock up on 11.11What can they buy?
>>103164126Wait... those tiny vent actually affect isolation?
>>103164270Hifiman, Aune, Moondrop
>>103164270probably chink brand headphones, like hifiman.
>>103163804Can I see your audio crystal collection?PS: I'd change that knob at the top to a wooden on to stop interference.
yeah folks, this dongle and wire life just isn't fit for [presentYear] life anymore, i kneel to tws
I will now buy your Penon pos.
>>103164445>no pics of the actual pos
>>103164455
>>103164467
>>103164270They can buy IEMs. Nobody forces them to keep destroying their hearing.
>>103164467>that faceplateAin't no way your idea of a good design is stage 4 dermatitis
>>103164016There are tons of IEMs. 7Hz Zero:2, Kefine Klean, Simgot Supermix4, or Aful Explorer
>>103163302set ~-2.0dB pre-amp
does it make sense to EQ the dips that are clearly electronically damped? it looks like band-stop filters. if you put a 3db gain at the dips, could it end up not doing anything at all? like the sensitivity is probably different at the dips right?
>>103164782what kind of retarded curve is this?
>>103164797it's a put your volume at 100% curve
Buds Fe or MeloBuds Pro
>>103164782how can one fix this squig?
>>103164827>bluetooth budsthe soundpeats engine 4 sound alright but hurt my ears
>>103164797>>103164844the graph starts at 1k
>>103164844put them in here and walk away
>>103164844based retard
YDSmall came in today. Pretty good for the price and comes with cute stickers.
>>103165281wtf does this mean?
>>103165302what part do you not understand?
>>103165314the true partalso the 2 Chinese symbols behind her
>>103165321you are in chink pos general
>>103165321>also the 2 Chinese symbols behind herPretty sure it's a well camouflaged "fuck you"
>>103165321This is true musichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDJwlUNiJBQ
>>103163713Ken Ball personally hot glued every single piece.
No THIS is real musichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7h7bnYA1LXE
>>103165327am I supposed to be able to decipher Chinese moon runes?
>>103165321Google "原道"
>>103165414I don't see those glyphs on my keyboard
>>103165406every iem user knows how to read mandarin. it's mandatory.
>>103165422>doesn't know how to copy and pastelet me guess, you are an itoddler?
>>103165635Mandarintory?
>>103165658omg yes iemxixta
new bread >>103165817
>>103164016Truthear Hexa. $80. Good isolation thanks to single small vent of the bass DD. Neutral DF-derived tuning close to the new meta. For monitoring purposes it's very good.
>>103166012this except the Novait's better then the Hexa and can be had for $100 right now. probably less after coupons
>>103166030Nova is Shartman and has huge shells, which in case when the fit is not ideal will cause more issues than Hexa's simple medium-sized shells
>>103166224he wants something to monitor an instrument. a neutral Hartman curve will do way better then a colored Hexathe shells are pretty big but they happen to fit me perfectly so maybe I'm a bit biased
>>103166240nova is luckily not that bad in 5k shout since it's the only part they changed to match the DF more closely, but the tranny tuck is still there and it's a retarded remnant of Shartman OE target (which is quite good) when it was adapted to IEMs as the IE target using wrong assumptions, anyway while a gentle tuck can be beneficial, Shartman's recessed tuck simply sounds artificial
>>103166282Harman OE is bad.
>>103166293you have it backwards, harman over ear is alright, while harman in ear is not great
>>103166303No, over ear is bad. Too muddy.
>>103166293still less ridiculous than IE
point on the graph where the 'tranny tuck' is
>>103166314Not really. There are real humans that need that much 5kHz, especially with deeper insertion. 200Hz region is non-negotiable. Listen to real speakers. Headphones need even deeper dip at 200 to reach anything resembling hifi.
>>103166338real speakers with forward woofers sound more like IEMs with sloped bass, the tuck is as artificial as having a subwoofer, setting its volume too loud and making it sound disjointed
>>103166355Subwoofer is mandatory for hifi. You cannot have smooth bass if you only have a single point source of bass, even if it extends to 20Hz.
>>103166316here>>103166387only to supply actual woofers, not to overpower them in low-end and let it live with its own life
>>103166434Just extending woofers is senile and gay. Real shelf for real music.
>>103166434that area sounds pretty flat when I tone it out
>>103166486not the worst case of a troon tuck, pos like variations have it much worse, but still is not just a tuck but also a recess which makes reverse slope of the mids>>103166467if you like it for listening to the music, that's okay, but recommending it to the anon who wants pos for monitoring his equipment is straight up retarded>>103166240Hexa may be a bit colored with bass and air boosted, but always was, is and always will be more neutral than shartman which is anything but neutral, if anything it's much more V-shaped than neutral
>>103166544>if you like it for listening to the music, that's okay, but recommending it to the anon who wants pos for monitoring his equipment is straight up retardedThat's literally what studios use.
>>103166544the 'recessed' area sounds bright to my ears when I tone it outit could be a decibel lower imo
Only people that think headphones sound good have an issue with the tuck and people that think headphones sound good are all deaf.
>>103166571only Etymotic ER4SR is certified for studio use, FR-matched per channel and guaranteed to sound identical regardless who uses it, but it's not even used that often, as studios use far-field monitor speakers most of the time and near-field ones and headphones for more critical tasks, if there's a subwoofer it's matched and aligned to woofers' volume
>>103166606If they mix like that they didn't read Toole and their mixes are ass.
My sliivo cable is nice and good quality and doesn't tangle, but it's kinda heavy and it's digging into the top of my years. Any cable upgrades for this feel?
