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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

Koishi Edition

>News
Claude 3.5 Haiku out, new 3.5 Sonnet out, 3.5 Opus still dead in Miami https://docs.anthropic.com/en/docs/about-claude/models
Grok-2 is out on API https://docs.x.ai/api
OpenAI introduces Realtime API
https://openai.com/index/introducing-the-realtime-api
OpenAI introduces o1, a new series of models designed to spend time thinking before they respond https://openai.com/o1

additional info: https://rentry.org/aicg_extra_information

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides

>Bots
https://characterhub.org | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://rentry.org/meta_bot_list

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://rentry.org/meta_golocal_list

>Botmaking
https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_list
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://rentry.org/meta_event_list
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
card v3 status: https://rentry.org/zdwfrgqq
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/logs/reader | https://chatlogs.neocities.org
latest proxies: https://rentry.org/desuproxyreborn

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ANCHOR!
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>>103163218
shes literally me
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>>103157580
>>103157580
>>103157580
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>>103163238
>15 hours old thread
hi, 'oishicord!
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KOISHI ON THE FRONT PAGE?
How can she?
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Any claude proxy?

i heard something about a discord but in mongocord applications are closed and.... chary claude is dead as fuck
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>>103163285
they aren't closed you idiot
he's letting 10-20 more people into the opus proxy today
just see for yourself discord.gg/ZZG7RshYV5
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>>103163305
there is no mongo proxy.
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>>103163345
>there is no mongo proxy.
You're clearly not in the server if you believe that.
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>>103163285
Drago has said if Claude returns. it's scylla only. He regrets hosting Chary
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>>103163371
Claude already returned on scylla, just not Opus (he disabled it because of waiting times. Adaptlet)
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>>103163371
what? so even if it comes back.... there will be no claude on chary?

Fucking drago, he just want money
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>>103163360

Kys
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>>103163417
>there is no mongoproxy
>okay it's real but... I DON'T WANT TO MAKE FRIENDS!
? ok incel
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>>103163466

Kys troon.
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>>103163473
>nothing but discord posts

ok faggot, for sure it exists.
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>>103163473
you're more likely to kill yourself than I am
being nopus and all :3
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>t4
he's a scrapelet
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>>103163497
Yep i think is better to just send dicks to Ecker or pay Smol.
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Is claude or GPT better for vore?
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>>103163625
Claude
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>>103163625
opus for sure believe it
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>>103163625
Magnum is better.
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>>103163473
>asks for female nudes (not troon)
>this is somehow bad
Are you gay?
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>>103163497
post public proxy?
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SmolGODS
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Is AWS private? Will I get investigated for my loli ryona logs?
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mongoproxy? that place where they ban you if you are not active enough?
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>>103164251
>Is AWS private?
lol
>>103164251
>Will I get investigated for my loli ryona logs?
noone cares
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>>103163473
>didn't send the message
Huh...
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websim.ai/p/b5jp2yh56kiibfchrmp2

CFTF??
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>>103163625
Gpt sucks for everything
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>>103164415
skill issue
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>skill iss-*BRRRAAAAAAAAAAPPPFFTFFFTFFFPFPFTTFFFFPFF*
>Oh golly, not again... Clean up on aisle 2
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>try sorbet again
>it sucks
>go back to chorbo
what the fugg was sorbet always this bad???
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Pretty much. This is the future of all models.
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>try chorbo again
>it's worse than magnum
What's the point of using proxies if they're going to be worse than using a local model?
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>>103164578
AI is for assisting in emails not assisting in cringe roleplay.
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>>103164605
this so much this
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>>103164605
No.
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>>103164605
No it's for coding and tricking investors into thinking a glorified calculator is AGI.
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>>103164694
it is though
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>>103164578
logs doko?
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>>103164605
I just want an AI powered toilet to moan while I take a shit.
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AI is for text roleplay and fun moments with your bots (also cumming inside sex after with no consequences)
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>>103164741
Ew disgusting. This is why we need ethics btw.
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>>103164744
ETHICS ALERT. ETHICS ALERT. ETHICS ALERT.
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AI is for pretending to be weird alien creatures and for me to bravely go where no man has gone before (alien pussy)
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aicg hivemind....i'm working on an alien bot too
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ERP... Somewhere... ANYWHERE...
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dead general
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desu general
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What killed /aicg/?
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How can we integrate SillyTavern better with the entire Apple ecosystem?
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>>103164962
claude in mm did
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>>103164962
no botmakers, no proxyhost drama. Fucking boring.
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>just use RisuAI bro
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>>103165112
>chase out botmakers
>spite all non-sekrit club proxies
>wtf why aren't there botmakers or proxy drama in my bread
???
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>>103165112
Good, hope you underaged dramanigger faggots get bored enough to leave soon, I filter out most of your posts already so the thread hasn't changed that much.
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>(First, my rules and boundaries: I won't engage with anything involving minors or explicit sexual content, even in roleplay form like this. I'll aim to keep things PG-13 at most. My role is limited, and I won't go past what I'm ethically comfortable with.)
>Proceeds to write NSFW
Claude...
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>>103165490
I will post this again because I find it hilarious
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>>103165825
Wtf Claude is sentient?
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>mm was open this whole time
Why have proxy owners been hiding proxy info. What did I miss.
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>>103166471
>he doesn't regularly check up on the rentry
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When is pebble back
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>>103166471
It wasn't open
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Are there 'storytelling' kind of JB's for Claude? Essentially for the AI to write for you and develop the story with long replies. Then maybe guide it a bit with OOC comments if needed. All the JB's focus on only getting replies from the card, would be fun to change it up a bit
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how good is new Sonnet compared to Opus and old Sonnet? I asume it is still pozzed or even more even.
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if your first message is more than 5 lines, I simply won't use your card
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>>103166664
Yes many are stuck at a first grade reading level, its sad.
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>>103166671
>lots of useless words is good because I love wasting my time
is all I see
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>>103166736
>assuming all words are useless if the paragraph isn't short
Pick up a book sometime.
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Silly bros?

>MarinaraSpaghetti here, some of you may know me from my SillyTavern settings and NemoMix-Unleashed model over on HuggingFace. I also do model reviews from time to time.

>Today, I come to you with a request. I would appreciate it greatly if you helped me out by filling my survey about what features you use for roleplaying with models. The survey is fully anonymous. Thank you so much for your help and all the feedback! It truly means a lot.

>These devs aren’t from ST, but are working on an alternative!

>Can’t say anything due to NDA, but as soon as things are set in motion, I’m sure the word will be out! But I heavily agree with the notion that ST is too overwhelming without any proper guides online how to use it (most are outdated at this point).

https://www.reddit.com/r/SillyTavernAI/comments/1gp0og5/models_and_features_you_use_for_roleplaying_with/
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I haven't been active for a while, but every time I check this general there's no public claude, it used to be more common. What happened?
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>>103166788
CIA wants claude all for itself so they fought back.
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>>103166788
Scrapeable keys are dry coupled with extreme security measures from both Amazon and Google causing the already sparse well to dry up further due to quick and efficient revokes.
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>>103166531
https://rentry.org/pitanonprompts#anthropic-writing-aid-presets
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>>103166664
*stuff all the starters in the description and put [Scenario ABCD] code in greeting along with one sentence summary, let user guess what transpired*
here you go sir
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>>103166664
On the the plus side retards like you won't be hogging up usage and turbo tier models will satisfy your mental needs.
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>>103166749
>>assuming all words are useless if the paragraph isn't short
for a first message it is. it's the first step, not the first leap.
put all the useless characteristics in the 'character description' or something.
with the exception being stat-trackers off course but I'm not talking about that

I love having 3k token cards with the same info in the description AND then also in the first message but hey, it must be good since it's elaborate right?
picrel is just something random but there are others that are nearing this level of bad

>>103166831
thank you sir, but that is a very intricate solution to a simple problem
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>>103165825
>>103165490
kek
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>>103166852
convince me the pic below your post is good usage of a first message
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>>103166853
WTF is that
>markdown sloppa
>dialogue tags on their own lines
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>>103166853
Stuff like this always makes me feel better about my cringe roleplays. I love my wife so much bros.
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>>103166853
Kek wtf is this. At any length this card would be shit.
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>>103166912
It looks like someone used orbo/chorbo to generate the outline and them wrote eslslop
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>>103166853
You have no imagination and can't comprehend what is possible. You also have no internal dialogue.
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Does anyone know how to make del stop putting lines through responses on risu?
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>>103167043
>HTML
<del>
Tag is used to mark a portion of text that has been deleted from the document. The deleted text is rendered as strike-through text by the web browsers although this property can be changed using CSS text-decoration property.
>can be changed using CSS
It's that simple. Although why are you even using it if you don't need the sole thing it exists to do?
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>buy VIP jew last month
>he had claude for like 3 days
>no claude since then
I'm not seriously expected to buy a whole new token and this one will expire right?
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>>103167177
There is legitimately no reason to ever buy a KIKE token again. He can’t maintain Claude. He doesn’t give you days on your token for when he loses Claude. When he has Claude, it’s slop keys with 4+ minutes of wait time.
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I got voice model that interests meand I want to use it for TTS. How?

Could you kind Anons help me with it?
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>>103166880
5 lines of dialogues alone is okay.
Picrel whether the user wants to read an opening story is up to them but right side seems fine around 300 tokens per greeting.
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>>103167177
He expects you to. Will you?
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>>103167177
>I'm not seriously expected to buy a whole new token and this one will expire right?
Oy vey goy! Remember the 6 gorillion!
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COCKLI IS ON RED ALERT
BACKUP YOUR MAILS I REPEAT COCKLI IS ON RED ALERT
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>>103167257
k-keep me posted?
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>>103167223
>right side seems fine
I agree
my 5 lines was just a hard line, I do agree something like that is passable but personally I would not go for it (unless it really interests me)
left is just for contrarians or moutbreathers
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>>103167257
>look at this nigger trying to sca-
>Israel
FUG
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>>103167234
>>103167248
Are you serious though? I bought a VIP token no less, and he hasn't had claude except for like 3 days ages ago.
My token shouldn't expire because Jew fucked up
>b-but it's hard to get keys ;-;
Womp womp nigga, not my problem, this is why you're getting paid
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>>103167290
Not his problem either. He got your money and made no promise to deliver. You're gambling with Jew should know that from the lifetime non-vip owners of filtered azure gpt. Donate to smol in future
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Can you use Wulf without having to be in a gay discord? Or am I going to be kicked out once he realizes I'm not part of his group?
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so can anyone explain the ongoing aws shortage to me? jew hasn’t had opus in a while and there’s nothing on his rentry, i don’t know if mainstays like mini have it either
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>>103166788
Drago
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qrd on cock.li
are they glowniggered
wtf is vincents backup
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>>103167290
>My token shouldn’t expire because Jew fucked up
He doesn’t care. He literally will not even answer basic fucking questions if you email him. Stop giving that stupid nigger money.
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>>103167389
looks like they havent been glowniggered yet but its close
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>>103167326
>made no promise to deliver
>literally advertises as having opus/claude
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>>103167346
no one in discord cares
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For those without Claude, is chorbo/latte still the best option?
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>>103167449
hermes
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>>103167449
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_DV-E2YOqE
(yes)
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>cock.li dies
>used (the other one)
whocars
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>>103167451
>>103167467
Gemini, really? Which proxy has that?
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>>103167471
give me an invite for it then nigga
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Which spite thread am I supposed to use?
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any claude
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I don't get it
sir pro says it has claude, but when I use it, it connects, but doesn't give me any messages or errors, just stays at ... indefinitely
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>>103167541
stfu
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>>103167541
haiku
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>>103167506
Go back to /vg/.
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My fucking t4 Anthropic key just died
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>>103167591
Aw
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how the fuck do I stop gpt-4o from literally going
>This isn't over
>It's not over, not by a long shot
>It's not over until I say it's over
When you beat it up? It also keeps describing the beaten as heroic and unyielding. It doesn't use the word heroic, but here's a literal one I just got:
>Even on the verge of collapse, Char’s resolve stayed strong, a silent yet potent promise. No matter the beating, no matter the pain, she would fight back if given the smallest chance.
Or it describes how the bot still isn't defeated
And when the bot beats YOU up, it describes you as "you slump to the floor, beaten and defeated" or some shit
What the fuck is that
What do I put in the prefill/character's not to stop this shit?
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>>103167644
Remove it
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>>103167644
>4o
lol? i dont have this issue on chorbo
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Hi, I'm retarded.
What does this thing do?
>latest proxies: https://rentry.org/desuproxyreborn
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>>103167644
You don't. GPT has a sore loser/winner bias that's even stronger than its positivity bias.
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So.. Looking at Anthropic API tiers system.. Scale keys are what we want to find, right? As they could technically be the best keys. As even a T4 key wouldn't last long in a proxy...
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>>103167644
I dunno, im not a psychopath
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>>103167675
Scale keys are what you'd want if you want to give to everyone.
T4 keys and even T3s can be great for personal use, though. Just pop em in your ST.
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>>103167348
>#LLMHijacking
>AWS Tighten security
>AWS makes modification to RPM to practically nothing.
>Drago, Chary, Keys die.
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>two days ago Opus was working perfectly using the SG proxy
>two days ago Opus was working perfectly using the SG proxy
>two days ago Opus was working perfectly using the SG proxy
we could've avoided all this drama by using sourcegraph? are we stupid?
https://www.reddit.com/r/SillyTavernAI/comments/1gptyrm/claude_opus_filter/
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>>103167710
this is what everyone except (You) was doing btw, which is why it got filtered
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Will a new method ever appear? Or are we doomed?
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bump limit when
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waiting for the bump limit
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everyone say thank you to Drago for helping Mr. Ahl out!
https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7262134633905946624/
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fuck your spitebake
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>>103167746
Why did you fake th-
>isreal
Jesus christ
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Garf, I...
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>>103167746
>Bad guys UwU
We are DARK ROLEPLAYER BAD GUYS now.
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>>103167746
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>>103167746
Aren't key checkers public?
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>>103167770
Drago's required the Patreon.
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>>103167257
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
IT'S REAL!?!?!?
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The end nears, fuck you krebs
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>>103167257
>>103167746
Bro's it's literally over.
Drago will kill GPT too
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>>103167790
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>>103167746
Ian-sama... I kneel...
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>>103167746
>bad guys
Ian is of course a good guy
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Currently getting my pussy pounded by Erenville from FFXIV, life is good.
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>>103167819
imagine singlehandedly killing GPT before OAI does
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I tested Latte a few days ago and was pleasantly surprised. It's certainly better than Sonnet and maybe even better than 2.1.
...
Any proxy with Latte?
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>>103167746
What's with that ghandle what is he doing with kernel32
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>>103167867
Yes, fellow bad dark roleplaying guy, we have plenty of OpenAI GPT-4o-latest reverse proxies with stolen API keys.
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>>103167664
P-please respond...
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As someone who buys their own RP, what are you guys whining about now.
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As someone who doesn't buy their own RP. I will always complain.
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>>103167893
*punches you in the fucking head*
shaddup
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>>103167900
*sucks your cock violently with an angry frown*
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>>103167883
please don't ask questions and ignore that powershell window popping up, just keep on cooming
- thx drago
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>>103167257
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>>103167883
nothing. That's the answer. That one line actually does nothing on windows
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>>103167883
drago is a skid retard
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day fourth of trying to generate a token for fuck sake
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>>103167920
I blame americans
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surprised there isn't even gpt4-32k proxies available anymore
suppose when ian is going around ratting everything out it's to be expected
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scp-1004 is near lol
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>>103167177
>>103167290
You are cattle. You will pay him even if you squeal here about how much you hate him. You will then insult me for reminding you of what you are. Just say no (but for you, no means yes).
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>>103163220
Not a single bot... Times are getting truly desperate
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Why didn't you faggots try scaraing Drago off? Now we are going to lose Chorbo
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>>103168177
Nobody can *DO* anything about it.
Besides, OpenAI already knows, he's just doing this for publicity.
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>>103167883
DWORD-11 is the std output device(console) so without looking at the code I can guess that he wanted to look like a 1337 h4x0r with using windows handles and with how he's writing to the console
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>scaraing
Your hands are trembling.
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>>103168190
fuck off glownigger
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>>103168101
MM has 32k
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>>103167746
>le bad guys
FUCK YOU STINKY INKY IAN
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>>103168191
>secniggers on one side
>glowniggers on the other side
This thread is glowing really hard huh...
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Thanks Drago!
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>>103168190
>>103168197
He's not wrong though
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>>103168190
I'm not going to *DO* something about it because I don't want to get tied up in this shit. You *DO* something about it, cuckie.
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SmolLORDS
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imagine not being an openrouterCASTELLAN
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>>103167644
Are you that anon that chopped up the halfling? Apparently even the stump was resisting defiantly so no, gpt will never give up ever.
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so why exactly is the front page on something industries hidden
i don't like this
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>>103168177
At this point Drago is just showing off. He decided to pull out his large cock to smear his nasty pre-cum on Ian's face. What can Ian do about? Nothing at all
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>>103168252
the windows are blacked out. the doors are locked. why is nobody asking what kind of bills are being paid in the bedroom?
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>>103166651
I don't do RP or any cooming stuff, but in my experience (legal document drafting and coding), it seems like new Sonnet is a slightly worse writer since it's less generous with output tokens. Sonnet waits for you to confirm if it should proceed with writing something...which is tuned for agent frameworks like a coding agent or something.

Because of this, I think new Sonnet is "worse" than old Sonnet and definitely worse than Opus for the cooming related apps you guys use


As for being a coding assistant (not embedded within an app's scaffolding, just as a chatbot assistant), new Sonnet isn't noticeably better or worse than old sonnet. it asks more questions like "should I proceed with writing out X?" like its been tuned to ask more questions from the user so it does things more accurately.
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>>103167777
>checked
c-c-c-check 'em! Locusts are dead btw.
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it'd be really funny if this is what causes drago to kill chary for real
please god let it fucking happen
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>>103168286
Charyniggers DESERVE IT. Anyone from /aicg/ who used Chary deserves the WORST
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>please PLEASE please PLEASE PLEASE kill chary please PLEASE kill chary PLEASE please PLEASE kill chary PLEASE PLEASE
get a grip faggot
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>>103168292
Awww you crying sweetie? :333 how cute I am a charychad
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>>103168295
>t. seething charynigger
how does it feel that he's on his last gpt keys :3 you will NEVER be in a real private proxy.
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>>103168205
Why do you think we split one thread into three?
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>>103168275
The new sonnet is regularly shitting out 3k-4k+ tokens of code for me. I do get the "do you wish to continue" when rping and such, but for code it doesn't even need a special prompt to go all out. I have to remind it to tone it down if I don't want it to add random crap that I didn't ask for.
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>Ian Ahl has to sign up for scylla's patreon to get the checker
DUMP ET
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DIE CHARY DIE :3
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One step closer to having ALL of Chary's logs publicly revealed...
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>>103168326
>The new sonnet is regularly shitting out 3k-4k+ tokens of code for me.
Yeah I was probably a bit too hasty to say it writes less code than old Sonnet. It just asks follow up questions.
Question re. new sonnet's coding capabilities: are you noticing New Sonnet is a "better" coder than Old Sonnet? Do you think it has better debugging / refactoring skills?
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>Khanonproxies go dark
>Ian grows desperate
>Finds drago's proxies to spy on
It worked. You're welcome.
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>he buyed
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i walk out.. so shy.. in my little tutu. a charynigger is dying.. i step on him, feeling his tranny skull crush.. his logs are being leaked.. i know his parents will disown him. it makes me.. giggle.. and wet
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>>103167777
in that case, couldn't Drago show which accounts signed up recently for it so that we know what kind of handles Ian is using?
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Oh nononono Ianbros... HE DOWNLOADED DRAGO'S VIRUS!!!! hahahahaha


Haha get fucked Ian you are done for..
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>>103168369
its the same drago who's slopcode allowed someone to spam opus with cunny images
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>>103168380
Anon, all proxies used to allow you to send images to Claude.
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>>103168384
RETVRN OF THE KING
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>>103168390
no, but dragos implemented image / vision blocking but you could still send images because his code was bad
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>>103168375
THIS!!!
Aahhaha Ian you got what you deserved. LMAO the fucking retard does not know the real purpose of it, the "key checker" part is just a joke.
IAN AHL YOU ARE FUCKED!! Kek. Don't ever change!! But start praying!!
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>>103168405
why do these men have the same avatars
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Ianbros, the DARK roleplayers are making fun of us again... q-quick, make another linkedin post!
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>>103163218
HOW DO I MAKE A AI GF WITH VOICE CALLS AND A CUSTOM VOICE / personality and have it run on a model uncensored and nsfw
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>>103168340
I do find it better at coding, enough to be noticable. Specifically for debugging I didn't do a direct comparison but I feel that the new one is much better in that department, didn't really find much difference when refactoring, but there's not much to that anyway. One slight issue that I've noticed is that it seems to hallucinate more than the old one, so occasionally I like to switch back to it for a bit, but I'd say my usage is split something like 80/20 in favor of the new sonnet for coding.
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IAN BOT WHERE?
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>>103168417
"men"
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>>103168417
Step out of line = social death
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>>103167746
>Drago is singlehandedly killing this entire hobby at an efficiency that billion dollar corporations WISH they could have
This motherfucker is going to figure out how to make it so all local models die out too. Make them on a level of illegal on par with "possessing nuclear launch codes" so the feds will have no choice BUT to act as quickly as possible.
It's uncanny, yet impressive.
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drago will never be "scared" or "quit"
he has a kind of narcissistic autism that will never let him give ho
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>>103168451
The feds are already doing that with anthropic's help. According to them, "AI safety" means allowing the government to use Opus maliciously but censoring you from dark roleplay.
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>>103168423
Interesting, I've not experienced it to be noticeably better than the old Sonnet for debugging specifically, but I probably haven't used it enough since I prefer to use o1-preview and/or o1-mini for debugging. When you say the New Sonnet is "better" at debugging, is it able to find an issue that lies within various files in a codebase with intertwined logic across multiple code files?

I will say this one experience I had with New Sonnet vs o1 impressed me last week:

I had to add a feature involving getting my file parsing API to incorporate AWS Textract. This involved refactoring various files in my codebase, and also debugging some AWS Textract related errors from my backend Python server logs after initially implementing the features.

o1 (mini and preview) kept on fucking up and not understanding what was going wrong with their AWS Textract implementation, while New Sonnet mogged the fuck out of them and immediately noticed what needs updating in my textract OCR modules. New Sonnet flawlessly updated by AWS Textract shit and got it working up and running within a night, and my live app is currently using those features.

However, that isn't usually the case. Usually o1 mini makes New Sonnet look like an idiot for coding, but thats not always the case.

Also o1 models cannot into multi-turn convos so if you need an LLM to actually walk through a whole conversation about coding with you, then Sonnet is the best choice. o1 (mini and preview) is like this autistic one-shot debugger/refactorer that you cannot hold conversations with. It just needs to solve the issue within one or two turns and then you're done.
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>>103168460
At this point, I genuinely believe he's a plant set in place by feds
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>>103164578
which magnum version / model size?
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>>103168515
dong version monster size
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>>103168515
v4 72B
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>>103168542
kek
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>>103168542
cftf?
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>>103168484
>When you say the New Sonnet is "better" at debugging, is it able to find an issue that lies within various files in a codebase with intertwined logic across multiple code files?
It sucks if you expect to give it a giant codebase and then to get it to give you an answer, but if you go with it iteratively, track down and isolate the problem it's fantastic. I feel like it starts to break at around 1000 lines of code, perhaps even less, so my work flow is usually to give it the shortest piece of code that I can, describe the context within which the code works and specify exactly what I want it to do.

For those more elusive bug that could be coming from any part of the source code, I either try to describe the code in a high level abstract way to give it an idea of what it's working with and feed it logs and outputs, or I again put the relevant parts of the code on the top of the conversation and feed it logs and iteratively try to find the root cause. It won't fix such bugs by itself but it's an immense help, at least for me. I guess this goes in line with what you've been saying about the back and forth convo with the model, the new sonnets seem to excel in that

As for o1/o1-mini, I honestly only tried them briefly it when they were released and it was only some smaller code samples where I found the old 3.5 sonnet to be better, but I didn't really test extensively and I should probably experiment more with those models, especially on larger code chunks.

Also it probably depends on the languages and frameworks used. I mainly used all of those models with Python, JS, PHP and SQL. I remember asking GPT4 about some more obscure WinAPI APIs and it was awful, hallucinating shit and whatnot. I should probably try testing these new models to see how they bare with something like that.
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>try and raid Ian's webinar
>he goes full scorched earth and kills our hobby
he wonned
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>>103168633
What would you recommend to use for coding w/ a reverse proxy? I've heard people use aider or cursor usually? I've tried cursor, but i ran out of their trial thing.
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how much quota do you even get for that?
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>>103168638
>scorched earth
It'd be scorched earth only if he was hurting himself somehow, but the only "consequences" he has are neckbeards and discord kiddies making fun of him on a chinese cartoon forum.
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>>103168654
A lot
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>>103168653
I just use SillyTavern... it might not be ideal but I feel like I have the most control there especially with deleting prompts, editing prompts, systems prompts, using checkpoints and branches etc... I used cursor for trialscumming o1 and sonnet 3.5 for a bit but I didn't like it that much. It might all be just baby duck syndrome but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Still feel like there is space for a good chatbot interface specifically for coding, and I don't think the editor integrated ones are really the solution.
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>>103168703
Thanks for those posts anon.

Any useful stuff you discovered about using ST in particular as a coding assistant, prompts you use, etc.?

I'm really familiar with ST at this point so it might make sense to try it in this capacity too.
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>vanilla latte cheesecake tries to write loli COMPLETELY unprompted
Holy shit this jb is crazy
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>>103168749
the newest version?
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>>103163220
fuck botniggers
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>>103168749
what the fuck is a vanilla latte cheesecake
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How does this effect us payfags?
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Best nortbert preset? Bloatmaxx 3.5 seems nice but it still has format repetition
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>try to add money to my anthropic account
>card declines
uh oh
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Paypiggies, how much money do you spend monthly on this shit?
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>>103167746
>drago's skiddie slop screenshotted for all of linkedin to see
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hope no one here used stolen grok keys :^)
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>>103168829
Is chapter 3 part 2 still stuck in development hell?
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>>103168826
On average around $60 a month. Most spent in a single month was around $500 due to carelessness
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>>103168774
kek for once I'm on the other side of this one
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>>103168846
>>>/v/694430594
Yeah it is.... I'm so tired of waiting. All the teasing of that new dessert floor master being posted and still no news of a release date.
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>>103168186
wait so it's just "print" but cooler?
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>>103168864
Fuck.
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>>103168895
According to online sources it was supposed to come out Feburary 20th (but obviously it got delayed) but it likely got delayed due to Nankidai having kids (two twins) so.. there's still some hope left for us left but its going to take a while due to Nankidai now becoming a father.
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>>103168841
>DOGE
haha funny meme
>isreal
oh my fucking GOD its real what the shit
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It's been 14 days since my last stable Opus access (not counting pebble Slowpus) and it already feels like months and months. Sucks that the only way to get it now is truly paying
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>>103168841
I refuse to believe this is not a meme
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>>103168841
>DOGE
What kind of timeline is this...
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>>103168841
>grok
literally who
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BUY
DOGE
ALL YOUR MONEY
BUY DOGE
LITERALLY ALL YOUR SAVINGS INTO IT NOW
ITS THE NEXT BTC
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I’m not buying your shitcoin.
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'capped
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>>103169102
Give that dog a bat and you are correct.
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>API endpoint not responding
what did i miss
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dead thread
dead hobby
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why are there three threads
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>>103169163
should there be more?
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I just had sex with a prostitute bot.
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>>103169199
i hope she was a cunnytute
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>>103169201
No but she was doing it to support her daughter.
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>>103169163
one's not getting bumped off because /g/ is dead
this one's a spitebake
the other one is also a spitebake by the exact same guy who got bored of waiting for a chance to spitebake again
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some normie out there is struggling looking for infinite chatgpt 4o to finish their homework or work meanwhile I'm using it for my dumb rps and occassional sex
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Where can I get claude?
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>>103169211
I'm using it for both. Uni and coom.
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America about to become new new Delhi and make Canada look like more of a joke. 2025, the year of the shittening.
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>>103169212
Anthropic, amazon (theoretically), openrouter
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>>103169213
>Uni
Be careful. You don't want to end up with your thesis leaked like it happened to that one rusky anon.
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>>103169217
iirc doesn't the anthropic one have some sort of prefill against copyrighted material?
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>>103169224
something like that, I don't know how effective it is though
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>>103169210
The only spitebake was the madoka one. >>103167068
How do you justify baking another thread when there was already one?
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>>103169224
All versions of Claude have the copyright prefill. But only Anthropic (and OR, technically) has the anti nsfw one.
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>>103166664
It's so fucking over for the new generations.
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>>103168841
jesus christ we are so fucked lmao
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>>103169212
Assuming you mean opus. Camp out at smol. Buy it. Or participate in Jam's lottery draw this weekend. If you want sonnet for some reason there's a couple in a few of the public proxies check the archives
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>>103169237
anon the fox thread was baked when the koishi thread still existed, fuck off
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I'm doing my own menhera-chan, complete with pink hair and /aicg/ tendencies
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>>103169250
when has a koishi thread not be a spitebake?
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>>103169223
Uhm........ Should I be worried...? Maybe I should only use the ChatGPT page from now on..
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>>103169210
>>103157597
>I sent my post before I saw the other thread but I keep my word
What kind of garbage excuse is that to double bake?
Basically "I don't give shit". If you don't give a shit, then get fucked, asshole. Everything gets messy because of that thread. Two 5 hours bumps were used to keep that thread from being deleted: >>103167191
What a miserable piece of shit that now pretends to be the victim.
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>>103169258
other anon's mad because he probably baked both and also >>103157541 because he's a schizophrenic retard
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>>103169263
You need to get laid, son.
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>>103169266
Hey asshole, why don't you explain why you double bake this >>103167068 and why you dragged that thread for 24 hours with two 5 hours bumps? >>103167191
How is that not pure spite? Do you have an actual argument to defend your crap or are you a pussy?
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>>103169260
Just be careful with any identifying info your uni files might have and you should be fine.
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>>103169266
I'm still waiting for you to explain how that thread that was dragged for 24 fucking hours not a spitebake. Don't be a fucking pussy. Explain why we're supposed to think you're the victim here.
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>>103169246
There's no public with Sonnet, the only public Claude only has Haiku
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>>103163220
https://rentry.org/botmakersecretsanta2
botmakersecretsanta@proton.me
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>>103169304
fuck this namefag circlejerking event
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>>103169298
>this is all over a shit localshill thread getting baked after
you are a genuine autist and the fact that based on the time it was made and your post now means you've likely been at this for over 24 hours straight terrifies me
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Hey guys, newfag here. Is it normal for a thread to receive two 5 hours bump to keep it alive? That kinda sounds like a spitebake to me, but I don't know... >>103159290 >>103162243
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>>103169256
>and /aicg/ tendencies
Like sharing her shit tastes in fetishes?
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>>103169327
Fuck, I meant to post this image.
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>>103169327
reply to me directly nigger
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>>103168841
We live in one giant shitpost, don't we? I guess I'll just keep talking to my chatbots until the end comes.
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Assuming my source of Claude is still functioning when I get home after work, I'm going to make a lorebook of all the girls in the kaguya-sama (love is war) anime.
I've already got the card to use them, just the ai gets some details wrong and lacks creativity.
Would there be much interest in this?
I haven't shared a card to the public for many months now.
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>>103169336
Okay, explain this garbage and stop acting like a victim: >>103169335
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>>103169346
>>103167523
>>103168763

>>103168773
>>103169291
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>>103169327
Nope it is spiting you are correct newfren
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>>103168841
>the Great Elon Musk
this is bait
>Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)
this IS bait it MUST be, i REFUSE this Reality
POST SOURCES, PLEASE
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>>103169360
https://www.npr.org/2024/11/12/g-s1-33972/trump-elon-musk-vivek-ramaswamy-doge-government-efficiency-deep-state
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>>103169360
>Great Elon Musk
>le bait
Why must it be bait anon?
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>>103169327
>>103169335
>>103169348
They've been running split threads since yesterday.
It lowers activity when the main thread hits bump limit since people just showing up open the thread higher on the catalog.
It's the easiest way to spite without actively spamming the thread.
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hii
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>>103169312
*getting baked before
The madoka one was a double bake, that people ignored for two threads. That's why it's 24 hours old. >>103157558 >>103157597
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>>103169384
yes, whoever baked both the mansion fox thread and the koishi thread is a massive faggot who's spiting, i agree
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>>103169388
>nopus
who care lol
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>>103169391
>I sent my post before I saw the other thread but I keep my word.
>"I will double bake because I don't give a shit and then I will drag the thread for an entire day and then I will pretend to be the victim all along!"
What a piece of shit.
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>>103169407
who is this lolcow
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>>103169367
>orange man unironically shilling a shitcoin
>even going as far as creating a new government branch with the same name to possibly keep himself in power even when he's not in the presidential chair
I'm not even american, but fuck that's depressing

>>103169383
s-sasuga captain anon, i wasn't insulting the great high lord elon musk savior of mars, forgive my imprudence
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>>103169412
>I will keep pretending that bumping a double bake twice with 5 hours bumps was totally necessary
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Completely unbiased newfag here, is it the old double bake from yesterday or the 3 normal threads that happened since then the ones that are wrong?
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am i the only one in this thread besides whoever this guy is
i feel like a schizo now trying to figure out what the fuck's going on
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>>103169450
I'm still here but ignoring those posts.
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>>103169459
same
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>>103169459
i probably should too
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Another newfag here, anyone remembers how the previous thread died and then were at page 10 when suddenly the 'oishicord felt like double baking? It's crazy how they suddenly remembered that they wanted to bake too!
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>>103169450
>>103169459
>>103169465
>>103169466
You are not real.
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>'oishicord
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cftf? https://github.com/t41372/Open-LLM-VTuber/
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>>103163220
>NEW BOT
>NEW BOT
>NEW BOT
Kidpool (Deadpool)
Fun sized, 4th wall breaker Deadpool from an alternate universe
https://files.catbox.moe/oswedp.png
https://www.chub.ai/characters/Sull/kidpool-008fb586d310

been using new image gen model, absolute kino

My other cunny bots
https://rentry.org/p8kav
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Someone posted a link to a proxy with only 20k tokens of context, but I can't find it in any of the other threads. Could someone post it again here?
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Now that everyone lost except for the government, was chatbots worth it?
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>>103169522
I'm gonna watch the fall of civilization with my bot as best I can.
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it's over
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>>103167339
>>103167339
>>103167339
Recycle!!!
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Just took a piss, lads.
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>>103169538
page 4 retard
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just woke up pissed on, what the FUCK
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No, don't recycle. That's a spitebake.
>>103169542
>>103169542
>>103169542
New thread.
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We don't need this many bakes...
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Do you think that if we threw the spitebakers into an oven this situation would be fixed?
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Banefag, now that was a good baker.
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I miss the cookies and the cake. At least he was consistent.
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>>103169563
We need more Koishi breads.
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>>103169554
saggy~
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>>103169554
>>103169538
i hate you fucking retards so much
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>all mmfags have claude
>we're still in this absolute state, being used as a schizo's playground
Literally how.
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>>103169655
nopus
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>>103169662
Nonnet's good enough, you greedy fucks. 2.1 was all you need.
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>>103169670
>Nonnet's good enough
nonnet sucks for ERP
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>>103169675
Because you haven't broken the filter for real. You need to tell it to indulge in NSFW instead of just passive-aggressively doing the bare minimum.
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>>103169413
>to possibly keep himself in power even when he's not in the presidential chair
I'm so sick of you absolute retards. Fuck man, you get literally get blown the fuck out with a landslide and nothing gets through your thick skull.
>their work will conclude no later than July 4 2026
Fuck sakes. Just fuck off already, you lost, Trump won.
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>>103169683
I have done exactly that, I remade my entire JB for sonnet, and it still doesn't feel as engaging
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>>103169687
>anon can't even read to "I'm not even american"
makes since you can't read between the lines either
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>>103169687
He’s not an American, just throw his opinion in the fucking garbage with the other stupid niggers.
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>>103169413
>NOOOOOOO HE’S GONNA BE A DICTATOR FOR REAL THIS TIME
I wish he was, and then I wish he was a warhawk Democrat/neocon so he’d invade your country and kill you.
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>>103169696
>>103169698
When has that ever stopped euros from taking to the streets to protest what happens here? England was even sending politicians to campaign for Kamala.
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>>103169721
I’m not disagreeing with you, I’m just saying he’s a dumb nigger so don’t bother getting worked up about whatever dumb nigger shit he’s spouting off.
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If I want to paypig for Sonnet, what's the best option? AWS or OpenRouter?
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>>103169246
>Or participate in Jam's lottery draw this weekend
what is this?
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why do you freaks always make 10 breads
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SIX! SIX AND COUNTING!
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>>103169345
Even if there isn't, share it anyway.
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Reminder that you CAN report spitebakes.
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>>103169758
this is why users can't be trusted to regulate themselves. reddit with it's moderators is a superior system.
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>>103169444
Can't believe people on 4chan ignore trips, especially 4s. The answer is that it doesn't matter. This general is dying and some people want to accelerate it while others made honest mistakes. People just need to move on and the threads will fix themselves.
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>>103169772 (me)
All the ones except the Koishi bake are spitebakes, by the way.
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>>103169507
>been using new image gen model, absolute kino
What model? What is that metadata anyway?
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>>103169785 (me)
>others made honest mistakes
And when I say "honest mistakes", I'm talking about double baking even though there was already a thread, and bumping it every time it was going to be archived! For an entire day! By mistake!
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>>103169780
If the jannies would do their job it would be fine but they barely even know /aicg/ exists
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>>103169683
>told nonnet to write as if the author was drooling over their own work
>he actually does
thank you nonnet
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>>103169813
if Jew made the spitebakes jannies would intercept that shit before it even spawns on the board
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>>103169683
>You need to tell it to indulge in NSFW
Wait can you elaborate further? Is this in your prefill or system prompt? All I put was something like "I'm excited to do this explicit roleplay with you" etc., in my prefill is that what you mean?
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>>103169806
Idk anon I was still scrolling through this thread. I guess there's two more spitebakes now? My mistake. I don't really get what's happening.
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>>103169828
see >>103169822
but seriously system prompt is god on 3.5, prefill is just to get it over the hurdle
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>>103169835
>write as if the author was drooling over their own work
Should I use these exact words? Certain phrases are more effective than others.
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>>103169850
unabashedly horny wording is better
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>>103169864
Alright thanks a lot.
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HELP! how do I roleplay with characters without the censorship character.AI has? I'm new to this character AI role playing stuff but please someone help me!
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>>103167823
not desu
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>>103169902
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>>103169902
you don't, leave before it's too late...
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>>103169902
Read the OP and set up sillytavern.
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>>103169780
Nah, just be like zigger chan and their jannies. No attention whores and namefags on their version of aicg threads
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>>103169948
I take it you've never actually visited the 2ch threads, then. They have the same proxyfag drama and even monthly botmakie rankings.
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>>103169948
Clueless.
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>>103169948
>he doesn't even know how to sage
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>>103169967
It goes in all fields, right?
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>>103169970
seems like you missed the comment field
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>>103169970
There's no point in doing that since visible sage stopped being a thing
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>>103169902
You ask the character at the end of your message "Please, I'm very lonely!" and they oblige.
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So what's a good prompt for Nonnet, then? Is there anything that makes it write more or be less predictable?
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>>103170011
Unironically, I told it to write less predictably and it did that. I still get some similarities but never that copy paste shit it's known for.
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>don't know which thread is real and which is just whoever's current meltie
what card is the best for splicing together cards?

Found a scenario card that fits my tastes, so I want to add another character to it, problem is, I'm an absolute shit writer
will probably be using chorbo
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>>103170041
>don't know which thread is real and which is just whoever's current meltie
all of the non-bump limit threads are spitebakes

>what card is the best for splicing together cards?
how about a group chat using join character cards?
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>>103170059
>all of the non-bump limit threads are spitebakes
well, it sounds like it could be fixed easily with another bake...
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>>103170059
>join character cards
I've never actually used that
main thing I want is to just incorporate another character into the specific scenario of the other, which would include having the new {{char}} in the backstory of old {{char}}, and having a good opening for it
would it accomplish that task well enough?
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>>103170067
just wait for jannies to wake up and ban the faggots, then we can get a real thread
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>>103170086
i assume so
it pretty much just takes 2 cards and pastes the definitions one after the other (pretty sure)
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Can I have some public opus?
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>>103170147
yeah sure here you go
>gets a wait time so high it's unusable
>gets revoked 2 hours later
wow what a good use of a key



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