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wheres the anime op

>buy RAM off eBay
>it's unopened
>guy posted a picture of the label with all the info on it and everything
>doesn't show up anywhere in PCPartPicker
>check memory support of a few high end motherboards
>0 hits
>think I got scammed
>check one last motherboard
>it's real

How? Wouldn't it show up even if it was out of stock?

>nvidia control panel
>geforce now
>geforce app
What the fuck njudea

>>103167611
For every kit from big names like G-skill, Corsair, Team, etc. there's a thousand green PCB models from firms you've never heard of.

I'm doing a midlife upgrade, the internal backup HDD is 6 years old, should I replace it with a new one? Who is good for Hard Drives these days?

I'm so desperate right now that I placed an order for the 9800x3d for 560 euyros (this is the price for living in pizzatown). My 8 year old rig is dying and I've never had a good pc all of my life, I want to feel the regret of wasting money on a pc. This will be my first and last time (I'm almost 30 years old, by the time that I need a new rig I'll be probably dead)

>>103167686
Do you uhh even have a motherboard to support your new processor? The cooling? The DDR5 RAM? A GPU that won't bottleneck you? A decent SSD?

>>103167686
check out bundle deals near your area
I'm basically saving like $200 in my current plans vs buying the equivalents separately

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i was looking at the 9800x3d to day dream

but then i noticed this, what the fk i was planning to get the 7700, is the cache that big of a deal that it's being outperformed by the weaker 5700x3d in some scenarios

>>103167709
I have 32gb ddr5 6000mt/s cl 30, it should be ok (even tho maybe 6400 was the sweetspot but 6000 is good anyway I guess). I saw that msi has full support for it so It should work with my b650, and the bios update should be easy too.
>>103167718
Already checked and I've found nothing atm, maybe there will be something in a couple of months

>Looking at two cases
>One has temperatures better by 1-2 degrees in tests but is $25 more and has less features / space
That 1-2 degree difference is not worth it if both are already pretty good for airflow, right?

>>103167665
you will get the barracuda and you will be happy

>>103167745
>buying non X3D for gaming
rumao

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They Cooked (literally)

>>103167583
>1080p: KOORUI 24E3, MSI G2412F, MSI MAG 256F, MSI G244PF E2
>24e3
this thing has native 8 bit, very low response times for pixel transitions, vrr and almost full Adobe RGB coverage, wtf - the only downside is that the gamut is wide and colors are not correct out of the box but if you have a cheap calibrator or a second hand good one you can compensate with any monitor

You don't need a new CPU cooler. You don't need to spend $50-$100 right now.

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i hate gimped "gamin" cpus

What bios versions do motherboards usually ship with? I might need to update a bios on a mobo with no flashback.

It's an asrock am4. I'll know what version is on the bios chip when it arrives, but what should I prepare for? I might have to grab a cheap am4 cpu.

>>103167822
well the 5700X3D is cheaper too

right now I can get the following
>AMD R7 5700X3D CPU
>ASUS DUAL Radeon RX 7800 XT OC Edition 16GB
>GIGABYTE B550M AORUS ELITE AX (rev 1.3) AM4
>CORSAIR LPX 32GB D4 3200MHz CL16 RAM
for US$760

just wondering where and what PSU that doesnt have to be PCI 5.0 since i obviously dont need that, then just get a scythe fuma 3, + lian li a3
I think I can barely keep it under $1000

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>>103167633
That's the thing, it is a Corsair kit. It's a 2x24GB 8000 DDR5 kit. According to PCPartPicker, that shit isn't real, but if you look here it's real.

>>103167862
Solely depends when it was produced no? They do new batches all the time and some come with new revision numbers or merely the latest firmware from factory, it's solely work ethic if you think about it inside that factory since the firmware is developed and released either way.

I bought a RX 6800

>>103167862
Unironically depends on when it was made. How long it's been on the market, that sort of thing. For instance, because I've been talking about them, Gigabyte says on their own website for all their X870E boards that they are currently using version 3.06 and that you need to update them to 3.08. It isn't even in the support area stuffed away, they put it straight in the product page where you get to look at all the pretty features so they're clearly quite concerned that you actually update the BIOS.

>>103167846
Clean the jizz stains off your wrist rest, you mongrel.

>>103167950
i only jizz in/on my gf. but yeah my keyboard is dirty.. will be replaced soon

>>103167928
Asrock provides me with absolutely no info. I guess here's hoping it was made after bios 3.20 was released.

>>103167921
congrats

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Is it safe to slime a motherboard?

What's the meta for thermal paste currently? I heard that that carbon fiber shit turned out to be a meme.

>>103165517
This review is too tame for userbenchmark. Is he past the anger phase and has moved on to denial? When will he start bargaining?

total retard here. how do i tell which way a fan is going to blow the air?

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>>103168017
mayo

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>>103168017
Fake honeywell works as good as any cheap/old/preapplied paste with none of the mess.

>>103168035
usually it blows towards the framing behind the blades

>>103168035
Curved blades.
Imagine the air scooped in by flatter side and pushed out by more steep side.

>>103168035
Some have little arrows on the side which point in the direction it turns and which way air goes out.
But when that isn't there >>103168060 is right.

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https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/ZAL7025/Zalman-I4-WHITE-ATX-Mid-Tower-Case
This case presumably doesn't come with any fans, it has spots for 3 on the front and 3 on top, and probably one on the back too. Surely if I leave a fan spot unpopulated the air will just leak out that grill, no? Or do cases come with blanking covers so you can ensure ideal airflow? I could always make a blanking cover if I have to.

Should I just buy like 5 120mm fans and mess about with placement?

>>103168060
>>103168062
>>103168081
thanks

>>103168085
>Surely if I leave a fan spot unpopulated the air will just leak out that grill, no
Heat naturally rises, so yes it will leave. I would do 3 intake and 2 exhaust just to keep positive air pressure without being autistic about fancurves.

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Are Chieftec PSUs good? I have plenty of them in my country with good price/parameters ratio, but I don't know how reliable they are.

>>103168010
Yes, just make sure non is left on the motherboard.

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What are your thoughts on this random customer's build?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nltPSV3GcFE

>starts shilling Radeon app in the tail end of the video

Nvida's app may have been clunky, but at least it always worked
Radeon app is a buggy mess..
>but it looks kewl

>>103168251
obviously a killer spec can't really go wrong with a 4080 + 7800x3d

>>103167836
I was co sidering buying that monitor. How do you do colour calibration? Is it really necessary? How do you know the colours are not correct ootb?

>>103168251
>ryzen 7
>4080
>x670e mobo

Should be good.

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>>103168317
Buy a second hand Colormunki Display (same hardware but factory gimped firmware, takes more time) or the i1Display, they have crystal filters that do not decay over time so it's worth to buy them cheaply online.
You then run a software like displaycal to calibrate, then create a cube file that you apply globally with dwm_lut and then you have global calibration, perpetually, but if the game is full screen exclusive it won't work, you have to inject it via reshade which is basically not impacting the performance at all and it's effortless, you output the shader from the calibration software
https://github.com/ledoge/dwm_lut

it's really trivial, you just need to experiment boldly a few times and you'll get the hang of it
If you do not do color calibration on that monitor, everything will be saturated, you might watch youtube or movies and people will have red faces, because those media files are for the sRGB color space which is tinier than what the monitor can cover in actuality out of the box (color space is an X Y Z plot in a theoretical color spectrum).
Video games are sRGB mastered as well, the color that developers wanted you to see are to be seen in a clamped sRGB calibrated mode.
The upside is that if you're watching a HDR movie, you can then see more properly saturated colors that are accurate with this monitor as long as you profile it and feed it to a competent media player that can do color profiles/management.

>How do you know the colours are not correct ootb?
Reviewers measured it, it has a horrible maximum Delta E indicating that with only eyes the colors are not accurate and it also has that X Y Z plot way beyond the sRGB ones without any option to change it in the menu so it'll always be saturated.

look at the picture, the doted shape inside the colored one is the sRGB color space
https://youtu.be/e2vDqPp0wKI?t=248
Other profiles of people online that calibrated and profiled as well.

>>103168223
1600w Ching Chong chinky coming ita pcie 5 too

>>103168404
This is a good analogy for calibration: https://www.colorwiki.com/wiki/The_Color_of_Toast

Why is there so much emphasis on upgradeability?
The motherboard is just a $100 part and the RAM will probably be replaced as well when you want to upgrade

>>103168614
people just want a platform that lives long. am4 mobos from 2017 can slot in a 5800x3d and still get bios updates. its the opposite of intel where mobos from 2017 cant fit a cpu more than a gen old and their bios updates pretty much stopped.

>>103167629
> In every thread
https://www.techpowerup.com/download/techpowerup-nvcleanstall/

>9800x3D was $743.99 yesterday
>is listed at $479.99 today
???

>>103168271
I mean...
I have never touched geforce experience other than a handful of times to see if it got better, and control panel never got used past first-time setup. I have only ever gotten an AMD card recently, and I'm using the radeon software pretty frequently.

>>103168652
That's the MSRP. 743.99 is scalpers.

>>103168223
Powerplay titan/platinum was and still one of the best PSUs, shame that there no native 12vhpwr port
Default polaris is meh, but 3.0/pro versions are good

Am I being retarded by purchasing a Liquid Freezer III for my 9800x3d, instead of a Frozen Prism? 360mm that is.

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>>103167665
Toshiba 20TB MG10ACA20TE
relatively silent, fast, up to 300GB/s transfer rate. I can confirm this, I got two of them.

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>Do you have a peer reviewed source to back up that visible difference in your comparison?
Why is reddit like this?

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convince me not to buy the zalman lf120 fan
it looks stupid, but i can turn the rgbs off and it's by far the cheapest white fan locally

Anything to know when upgrading ram?
Just plug the new one and activate xmp? That's it?

>>103168085
The small hexagons mesh behind the front fans effective block their airstream. Who designed this crap?

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7 GHz 8-Core Processor
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 AORUS ELITE AX ICE ATX AM5 Motherboard
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory
Video Card: PowerColor Fighter OC Radeon RX 7900 GRE 16 GB Video Card
Power Supply: Super Flower Leadex Titanium 850 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

Fear of tariffs has me finally motivated to upgrade after eight (!) years. Thoughts?
The main part I've been flip-flopping on has been the motherboard.

>>103168715
something about making sure to not have multiple different sets of RAM plugged in at once

>>103168644
meanwhile if you bought an 8700K back then you still have a viable gaming CPU
to "keep up" on AM4 you would have to go from 1700X to 3700X to 5700X (hypothetical scenario, obviously no one really did that, i hope)

>>103168715
Other than making sure it's the right speed/die, the only other thing to worry about is if you use a big block air cooler that the RAM might get in the way of.

>>103168730
Should be fine as my mobo only has 2 slots, so no risk of mixing or anything

>>103168085
>900+ nzd for a 9800x3d
>400+ for the cheapest am5 board
Kek what the fuck

>>103168085
> can't install a 360 rad in top.
You should reconsider.

>>103168725
>The main part I've been flip-flopping on has been the motherboard
it's fine
no AM5 board is gonna have trouble with a 9800X3D or 2x 6000CL30

>>103168725
Forgot to mention: primarily for gaming (one 1440p 144hz main monitor and one 1080p 60hxz secondary monitor), and budget of $1500 ish (mostly for peace of mind, I want to keep it in the $400-$600 range for each CPU and GPU)

>>103168223
Nah, the good times of Chieftech are long over.

>>103168251
mediocre

>>103168251
This makes the poorfags of g really uncomfortable and mad

>>103168753
Alright. I saw people shitting on different board brands for different reasons in past threads: saying Gigabyte is annoying because it has two separate BIOS and different BIOS versions for the same SKUs or something, saying MSI software is literal virus/malware, and generally shitting on ASRock for no clear reason?

>>103168725
that board is fine. might be worth waiting til new GPUs tho

>>103168725
Good CPU and PSU. That's it.

>>103168780
Can't go wrong with most boards. The only one I know of that's defective is the MSI x670-p which has a lot of negative reviews

>>103168780
>saying Gigabyte is annoying because it has two separate BIOS and different BIOS versions for the same SKUs or something
yeah that can be a thing because GIGABYTE releases several revisions of the same board under a single model name
i have a B550 AORUS ELITE and there's 5 different revisions of this board, you have to know which revision you own when you flash the BIOS but i'm pretty sure it says which revision you have on the box
>saying MSI software is literal virus/malware
if you download motherboard software for windows you are retarded
>and generally shitting on ASRock for no clear reason?
if a board dies, either due to user error or an unlucky manufacturing defect, people are going to find their own reasons to shit on the brand
unless there's a widespread and documented error (IIRC ASUS blew up 7800X3Ds, GIGABYTE fucked up DDR4 on LGA1700, etc) i wouldn't care about anon anecdotes

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB Video Card
Power Supply: Corsair RM650 (2023) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

making a budget gaming build and I'm looking for a mobo around $100. There's a ASRock B550M Pro4 for $80 on newegg but I wanted some options/opinions

I want to get a 1TB SATA SSD for an older system (Z87 mobo, no m.2). Obviously I'm not looking to break the bank for such an old system, but I want something that I can trust to not crap out on me. What SATA SSDs are worth getting nowadays?

dont really wanna upgrade my whole pc because of cost, do you think its enough to upgrade my cpu and gpu from 5600x to 5700x3d with a 5070/4070 super? considering the 5070 since i assume its in near horizon

everyone knows that CPUs are way cheaper on aliexpress but what about other components? are there any stores at all that sell GPUs, motherboards, ram, etc cheaper than newegg and amazon?

>>103168876
seconding this, I'm wondering if I should replace most of my components or only upgrade my 5600 and 3060ti for a 5700x3d and 7900 GRE

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>>103168876
I just did a 5700x3d build. It's a moderate upgrade from the 5600x, but not earth shattering. I'd recommend waiting and doing a full AM5 build when you're ready.

>>103168899
>I'd recommend waiting and doing a full AM5 build when you're ready.
nta but would you say that upgrading to AM5 with a 7600x is a better idea then?

>>103168869
break the bank? anon its not 2006 anymore. they don't cost $500 for a 250gb.
<$100 gets you a 1tb. sometimes 2tb on sale. wait for BF/CM deals.
Samsung, Crucial, Kingston and WD are top brands. Avoid Samsung 980's though. They tried to cheap out with that one and it cost them.

>>103168920
Personally,. I'd let the dust settle on the 9xxx CPUs, see what optimizations appear and make your choice. If you don't NEED to upgrade, I'd wait until next year and see where you sit then. If they're not worth it, then consider the 7xxx processors.

>>103168742
Already scalping 7900x3d 7800x3d to 600-700aud fucking scum retailers

>Last night something went pop inside my eight year old PC
>Room started smelling like party poppers and a chemical warehouse
>Got an instant headache
>Turn it off, disconnected everything, aired out room
>Running it today and everything seems fine but now very suspicious of what happened
Maybe its just me huffin fumes but I think I should probably replace before I die of cancer from this thing.

>>103168720
Looks like a problem for a dremel cutoff wheel.

>>103168742
>400+ for the cheapest am5 board
No? The MSI PRO B650M-A wifi that I'm planning on going for has an AM5 socket and is 266NZD / 158USD. Nothing cheap if you want PCIE 5 though, if you somehow think that's important for a semi-budget workstation.
Our prices aren't great for most things, but SSDs are surprisingly competitive. Cheapest CL30 6000MHz DDR5 is 246NZD / 145USD, which kinda sucks.
Gonna pull the trigger once black friday sales start this saturday, then regret it once cyber monday swings around and the prices are even lower.

>>103168752
>can't install a 360 rad in top.
Is that some kinda watercooling thing?

>>103169011
Probably an electrolytic capacitor somewhere, likely in your PSU. A PSU can run without one cap if it has multiple, but the output will be noisier. I'd find the culprit component so you can be sure there isn't detritus from it sticking to places it shouldn't, corroding or shorting traces, or preventing heat dissipation.

fucking scalpers want 650aud for a used 7800x3d on facebook what te fuck is wrong with people they used to be 500 new rather take my chances on ali express

>>103169030
I still have my 7800x3d from last year sealed in its box. Do you thin I can ask for the price that I paid? I kind of realized I don't want to be gaming so I'm thinking of getting one of those AMD cpus with integrated graphics which have extremely low wattage usage and very small latency.

fuck this im just gonna get a 7500f for 100usd and oc it
>>103169054
ill buy it off you lol 300usd send it to straya m8

the 7900 GRE will be good for 1440p for at least 5 years since it has 16 gb of vram, right?

>>103168928
>Avoid Samsung 980's though.
I don't think they make those in SATA versions, do they?

>>103169011
Some decoupling / smoothing capacitor may have blown. These are used all over the place and their role is to smooth over the supply voltage. This isn't an essential function and the circuit may continue to work without them, especially if the power is clean anyway. If there's any smell left you may be able to quite literally sniff out the area where it blew to figure out which part was affected. I'd probably first suspect high power areas, those are generally the PSU itself and CPU or GPU power phases. Still if a cap blew on the CPU / GPU voltage rails they may no longer work correctly so it might be in the PSU.

>>103169029
Damn I just saw your 4090 pricings lmao, won't be surprised if your 5090's are literally 5090 in price

>>103168844
The next one what is it? WiFi se? Check if steel legend fits in budget.

WHAT DOES BIFURCATED LANES MEAN?

>>103169063
Great buy go ahead. Look at 7900xt as well. Better performance for not much more monies.

>>103169029
>>103169066
>Capacitor popped
Given the power fluctuations, heat, humidity and airborne salt in this apartment I am not surprised if my PSU is having a bad life at the moment. Given a string of other issues this PC is experiencing I think its easier to give it a rest in a tip, eight years is a good run time for something that was a mid range PC when I bought it but thank you for solving the mystery. Ill need to think about how I keep the next one cooler and more stable.

>>103169054
Get a 7900x, cheaper and better than 7800x3d if you are not gaymen.

>>103169090
You use one slot to use multiple PCIE devices. The lanes need to be split for each device. Example: a multi NVME expansion card

>>103169092
Once you OC the GRE it's pretty much equal to the 7900xt just with 16gb of vram instead of 20gb.

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>>103169105
It's still a dual ccd chip, so wasted idle wattage and not so good latency.
I'm talking about those G series or their equivalent for the current platform. I dunno if I should sell the

I was thinking of these, they're a monolithic chip design.

>>103168725
Nice list. Get a atx 3.1 PSU instead. I got SF leadex vii platinum 3.1. For mobo, consider a x870 pro rs. PCIe 5.0, usb4 and other cool stuff. For 9800x3d, people generally buy higher end GPUs. Consider 7900xtx or 4080s. For Monitor, I bought a viewsonic 27" IPS 1440p 240hz Monitor for 250bux, try to sell the 1080 and get a 1440p 240hz monitor.

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>>103169110
I am looking at that spread sheet for X870E boards and it has comments about lane splitting and so forth for each board. For some boards it'll just say "Bifurcates into 16x/0x or 8x/8x" and that's it. For others it'll say bullshit like this. Don't they mean the same thing? You are ultimately causing the the slot to run at 8x instead of 16x.

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>>103169066
>>103168928
870 EVO released around the same time erroneously mark sectros as uncorrectable losing data, fixed in a firmware update.

>>103169142
What latency you taking about? You can run 7900x in lower TDP mode and it retains 80% performance. Just run it in ddr5 6200 1:1 mode. Don't get the gimped 8000 series processors.

>>103169172
I'm speaking about broad latency such as lower DPC latency and intra CPU communication between cores.

If I buy a board that doesn't have my RAM listed as being supported, does that mean it won't boot or it will boot but it can't use the profile for that RAM? In other words, it could be clocked to a slower speed if it's too fast.

>>103169186
it will boot. XMP will probably work too, just not "guaranteed"

>>103169174
Higher fclk and 1:1? Idk, you might know what you are doing.

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>>103169030
Why buy a 7800X3D right now? I wouldn't buy one over 300 €. I see people selling off 7950Xs around 400 already. I can't wait until all the scalpers that won't get rid of their shitty upper midrange CPUs new year so I can snatch one for myself.

I will likely get a B650E-E for 175 € now. Coming from the 5900X. Goal is the 9800X3D whenever it drops to a reasonable price, it would mean 50 % more singlethread, 3D cache and about the same mutlithread, so in theory it should still be enough for occasional rendering/compression/streaming. Otherwise I would opt for the 9900X3D, but I know it will be hard to get because it isn't even out yet, while the market is going to be flooded with 9800s in 2 months.

What RAM do I need? Should I just buy some basic 6000 MHz 2 x 32 kit? I want to buy board and RAM until new year but with good offers, then I should have sold my old stuff in order to afford some decent new CPU.

My GPU is a 7900 XTX that will go into RMA soon and ideally be refunded, so I'm not really in a hurry and may buy a cheap 5700 XT until next spring in order to wait for the launch so I ideally snatch a 4090 under 1 K in spring. Getting a new XTX would be the "worst case" scenario. In any way, the 9800X3D should give insanely better min FPS and snappyness.

>>103169029
>>103169071
Actually maybe I should try to buy the parts through Amazon. They don't have a warehouse in New Zealand, but any shipping fee might be worth it considering I'm looking at a 2338NZD / 1387USD pricetag for a 7600X + RTX3050 workstation.

>>103169197
scalpers are dumb. they dont understand that the inflated price of 7800x3d was only caused by it being the fastest gaymen cpu at the time. this is no longer true with the 9800x3d so prices will normalize

>>103169208
Especially now the prices are inflated because 7000 goes EOL and who would even buy one for such prices if the 9000 comes out?

And yes we should get used to this scheme, if you think 9000 prices are bad wait for the 5000s. 5090 is likely 2.5 K MSRP so you see people scalping 10 K for one.

>>103167686
>9800x3d for 560 euyros
MAMA MIA!!! THATSA ONE-A SPICY MEAT-A BALL!!!

>>103167686
9800x3d is pretty awesome. you won't regret it

9800x3d sold only in one Romanian shop thus far for, 2,828.93 United States Dollar.

>>103169170
>erroneously mark sectros as uncorrectable losing data
Fuck, that's really rough for a storage device. I think I'm leaning towards a Crucial MX500 anyway, I found a local shop with a decent sale on it.

>>103169261
for 560 euros he will kek

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I am looking at the layout for the Gigabyte Auros Master and apparently if you use either M2B or M2C it will take the PCIe slot from x16 to x8. However, there is no mention of M2A affecting the slot, and additionally, M2D is still an Gen 4 M.2 socket. If I am understanding this correctly, I could put a Sabrent into the M2A, my GPU into the PCIe and my current 990 Pro into M2D and have all of them run at their full speeds without fucking one another on bandwidth. Is that correct?

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ok i just realized that whatever bundles are available in my area basically make my choice obsolete
pls tell me pic related is decent. It's basically ~CAD$100 over the cost of the 7700X alone to get both a mobo + 32GB RAM bundled with this
and at least the RAM is 6000 CL30 not some garbage stock

Not familiar with ASUS mobos tho, im coming from Asrock
Finally about to pull the trigger on this 7700X to pair with a 7800XT
honestly i was very close to building a 5700X3D build but maybe i'll be happier being able to upgrade to a 12800X3D later on

>>103169221
>5090 is likely 2.5 K MSRP
I'm sure it's going to be 25-50k MSRP

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They will send it sooner right???? RIGHT?!?!?!?!?!

If the 9950x3d manages to be stable, it'll be a truly valuable CPU due to such ridiculously low wattage for what it can push.

>>103169321
If he doesn't mind wasting money, in a few months he will likely get a 9900X3D at least for the same money.
>>103169277
German shops are all sold out, one has it for 569 in stock until 25th of November. Is it really that worth for you? If not, wait. In my case, its just Darktide where I could need it, but my current setup is likely still better than what 99 % of people dream of. Its a real luxury.

>>103169382
What was its average price while it was selling?

>>103169375
>ridiculously low wattage
9800x3d is a housefire now its unlocked
i expect 9950x3d will be too

>>103169423
what made them so confident?
It'll be hilarious if memory controllers start to melt in less than a year or things like that.

>>103169423
>housefire
>draws less than an i5

>>103169435
it draws as much power as a 5950x bro

>>103169375
>If the 9950x3d manages to be stable
Why wouldn't it be stable? Commercially sold CPUs tend to be stable, unless you're buying Intel 13th and 14th gen I guess lmao

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So I just built this pc and as you can see the cpu (red) and vram (yellow) are on. It also refuses to respond to the monitor

>>103169455
Because 7950x3d wasn't stable. It crashed seconds in sha3 tests and also AVX2 tests with stock settings and ram speeds at exactly the advertised upper supported limit, so absolutely nothing was stressed beyond their quality control, guaranteed instant RMA range of defective chip.
Countless reddit and overclocker forum posts about people going trough 8+ cpus, RMA-ing one after another to get one that's stable.

I wouldn't want to go trough that so if the 9950x3d manages to be pristine out of box even if the performance were to be identical to the 7950x3d that would be a really attractive CPU.

people on ebay need to get fucking real, most gpu listings are more expensive than newegg by like 10-20 dollars, what a bunch of clowns

>>103169484
Gonna be honest i’m fully at a loss

>>103169484
very aesthetic photo

>>103169400
550 - 650 from shops
>>103169423
Of course it is, but its still better than Intel. AMD does not see need to hold back anymore. I would in any case UV it.
>>103169455
They always have bugs when they launch but its early adopter problems, just don't buy on day one. My XTX is also having the hotspot issue apparantly and I hope I can still RMA it. And don't use that shitty Windows 11 or its really your own fault and you rightfully deserve it. If you have to use Windows, get 10 LTSC. The eternal choice.

>>103169498
>just don't buy on day one.
or day - yesterday - for that matter, a factory defective chip won't magically heal itself and they've been trough a few revisions without fixing the issue at least last time I've a checked just 3-4 months ago

>>103169488
My day 1 2700X later turned out to be defective in 2018. I returned almost all my components back then until it turned out that it was really the CPU.
>>103169491
Buying on Ebay is dumb, but selling there is good. You always get higher prices than usual. And some people do that because of coupons. I also snatched my S23 Ultra for 420 € this autumn because of such coupon.

>>103169488
>Countless reddit and overclocker forum posts about people going trough 8+ cpus, RMA-ing one after another to get one that's stable.
And not a single failure in any review? Sounds like retarded schizo shit or actual idiots, like those retards who used to OC CPUs at """safe""" voltages and then shat themselves when their """safe""" voltages degraded their shit.

>>103169484
must be the lgbt lights, your computer has GRID disease

>>103169515
Not a single review did a sha3 or avx2.
A bunch of big yotubers complained about 7950x3d being unstable.
Also you have a few videos strictly about this as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwVTafm_Tjs
What exactly are you skeptical about? Hundreds of people, people I personally know RMA-ed their 7850x3ds and even posted about it online since they all tried to find people having the same issue and maybe a way to fix it, reddit had countless threads about ways to fix it yourself back then.

Even so I acknowledge that post people are clueless and lazy and would never even care to find about this.

What matters is that this is something that's their fault and you get a 100% RMA no questions asked as this is a factory defect, a crash within advertised stable parameters.

>like those retards who used to OC CPUs at """safe""" voltages and then shat themselves when their """safe""" voltages degraded their shit.
this happens at STOCK, even the SAFEST stock settings, instant crashes.

>>103169493
>>103169497
>>103169518
Lmao thanks but I’m honestly at my wits end. Not sure what I did wrong 9800x3d and 870 board

>>103169565
isn't your cooling inefficient as fuck?

9800X3D installed and does indeed provide a significant bump for me using 4090 with 4K DLSS balanced in a few games I've tested, most importantly Hunt Showdown. Now 200fps+ all the time. I am quite pleased. My 7950X would be around 130-180. Now what to do with the 7950X. An i5 13500 already powers the home server thanks to quicksync. Any ideas anons, or just be a good boy and sell it to cover the cost of the X3D? Techdeals is rolling over in his grave, I know, folks.

>>103169455
>Commercially sold CPUs tend to be stable, unless you're buying [Commercially sold CPUs]
>>103169488
are you sure you mean the 7950X3D and not the regular 7950X? the 7950X was unstable at launch, AMD "fixed" it by adding a performance cap
http://www.numberworld.org/blogs/2024_8_7_zen5_avx512_teardown
>AMD launches Zen4. The 7950X clocked at 5.7 GHz which was easily achievable in many lightly threaded and low-intensity workloads
>However, this 5.7 GHz would crash the chip under certain AVX workloads. The work-around was to lower the clock speed to 5.5 GHz by applying a -200 MHz offset to the PBO (Precision Boost Overdrive).
>AMD releases the AGESA 1.0.0.4 microcode update. It effectively drops the clock speed from 5.7 GHz to 5.5 GHz to fix the AVX instability - thus formalizing the workaround. While 5.7 GHz was still possible, it required operating conditions that were unrealistic and unlikely to be sustainable in any real-world workloads.

>>103169571
>what to do with a 7950x
sell it to a clueless programmer who doesn't know how his energy bills work
>quicksync for his transcoding
disgusting

>>103169582
>quicksync for his transcoding
>disgusting
What's your alternative, something that uses 3x the power? I am all for burning money on the plex server.

>>103169581
Zen5 is nearly mature by now desu and it hasn't had stability related issues

>>103169581
I meant only the 7950x3d.
Not a single other product from that generation had stock setup crash on either benchmark.
This was always exclusively a dual ccd 3d cache 7950x3d problem.
The funny thing is that 7950x3d had a bunch of serious revisions and none fixed this issue, they probably tried and who knows, if they've reduced the incidence by 5%, that's still a lot of money saved no?

>>103169603
yeah i agree with you
zen 5 is not being pushed quite as hard as zen 4, maximum boost clocks haven't really increased gen-on-gen
>>103169612
well it wouldn't surprise me if AMD forgot to apply the 5.5 GHz cap on the 7950X3D lmao

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>>103169568
It might be I hadn’t really thought about it

also is this a bent pin? It came with that dot

So this 3d cache thing is really smart and turns out that figuring out how to keep it cooler allows us to see that it's actually really powerful.

>>103169643
it might just be a slight imperfection
can't tell for sure since its too blurry

>>103169612
>This was always exclusively a dual ccd 3d cache 7950x3d problem.
I wonder if its cuz they pushed the vcache ccd too far. those were set to run at 5.2ghz unlike the one on the 7800x3d

>>103169565
I've heard that combo is very Ram sensitive.

>>103169681
Here’s a better picture - its hard to see
>>103169690
I’m gonna try moving the slots on the ram to 1/3 instead of 2/4

>>103169715
Try with one stick then the other. See if one works.

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>>103169681
>>103169715

>>103169447
and a 9950x draws 170 watts
and a 9700x draws 130 watts
and a 13900k draws 250 watts
and a 14900k draws 250 watts

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I'm eyeing a 24gb 5080 how long will I be waitfagging? Has samsung even sent those 3gb chips to partners like Nvidia yet...?

>>103169727
looks like a bit of fluff

>>103169756
>24gb 5080
You'll be waiting forever
Maybe you'll see a 24GB 5080 Super when the refresh occurs

>>103169565
did you wait the ~10 minutes for ram training to finish?

>>103169447
it also almost performs like a 5950x in multi threaded applications, meanwhile in gaming it uses 70w

>>103169793
no I didn’t - im guessing that’s new

>11% uplift in gaming
>productivity is invalidated by retarded high wattage
well, I'll stick to my 7800x3d, let's hope they change the IMC with the next one

>>103169809
yeah, it's a ddr5 thing
the system can't even wake up the display until it finishes
it spooked the shit out of me first time, i thought my shit was ded

>>103169837
AMD created eco mode for tree huggers like you
one button in the BIOS

>>103169756
>>103169790
yeah 18gb 5070/ti and 24gb 5080 will feel like shit value once we get them in 2026. $899/$1399?
>>103169845
I cannot believe this FUD over the slightly higher wattage of the 9800X3D as if it's news or bad or unchangeable, just ends up looking like cope.

>>103169871
there's a lot of cope about the beast that is the 9800X3D

why wont gae amd support cudimms. i want to OC good cpus

>>103169876
they do

>>103169895
bypass mode is not supporting them anon. they cant make use of the PMIC on the sticks

>>103167583
Why is the 990 pro only for Windows?

>>103169876
why do you want to run CUDIMMs on a platform that has an effective bandwidth limit of 4000 MT/s

>>103169925
you can still get better latency with more fine-tuning anon. just a different branch of this hobby

>>103169938
yeah by tightening the timings
i know how to tune RAM
some crucial 6400 CUDIMM isn't it

Watching linus videos with black and white filter feels cringe, you see every flaw in the effects and it doesn't hit you in the dopamine system at all, it feels low IQ.

its so fucking temping buying components for a PC because of neweggs' combo deals. i dont know if i should still hold out for black friday

>>103169947

not using 6400mt anon.

>>103169961
you can run 8000 just fine without a clock driver
go tighten your timings - stop relying on EXPO to do the job because i guarantee it won't

>>103169170
>Ssd's need firmware updates now in order to not lose all your files
Lmaoooo

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>>103169840
as you can see it scared the fuck out of me

>>103169484
Yeah nah mate you're fucked

>>103170042
>clashing LED colours
Ruined
Rebuild that thing with a matching colour scheme

>>103167745
Games are complicated, branchy code that benefits hugely from cache. Especially strategy games.

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Is this bar just placebo?
Amazon has given me a date, but how do I know if that's set in stone?

>>103170129
Until it says Shipped you have nothing.

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>>103170042
asrock's manual is a fucking joke, here's the only mention of ram training

>>103167604
this. op is so souless without the anime

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>>103170166
they just can't figure out a good middle ground. I remember peeling this off my Taichi X670E and was so pissed. It did not come off in one piece.

>>103170255
how did it come to be that Asrock was the best of the motherboard vendors...

>>103170099
I can make it match the gpu.

>>103170166
Yeah I figured it would be fine but i’m gonna try updating the bios

>>103169807
It's quite far off still. It's closer to the 5900x than the 5950x

>>103170289
Honestly, I will take the random retarded shit for the value, quality, and flair they bring. I love the classy look of the Taichi's, the X870E Nova is just unbelievable value, and the B650 Livemixer for $150 was just insane value and really cool, especially to normies, my friends adore them. I like Asrock a lot, but I am only 1 product deep.

>>103167885
Right, PCPartpicker doesn't know everything. Google leads you directly to the Corsair page for the kit tho.
> https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/memory/cmp48gx5m2x8000c38/dominator-titanium-rgb-2x24gb-ddr5-dram-8000mt-s-cl38-intel-xmp-memory-kit-cmp48gx5m2x8000c38

Should I buy AMD stock?

>>103169744
Thats likely just the TDP not the actual power draw. It varies a lot by user settings. You can even make a 14900K efficient if you undervolt/clock it.
>>103169790
Rather get a 4090 I doubt the 5080 is any faster or better, but likely 16 GB and 1400 €.
>>103169807
More like 5900X I think but even that is fine. Mine gets 680 single and 10 K multi in CPU-Z. What do you think what does the 9800X3D get? Does it hit 1 K single like the new Intel CPU?
>>103170316
Yes, but I would expect it to still perform better. I am using Davinci Resolve for video editing now. A 9800 should be more than fine for personal use, its not like I get paid for it.

>>103170320
>Taichi
>Nova
You may as well be talking about fairy dust.

Quad-channel looks so kino, but why is it still so shit for DDR5?

>>103170390
Because consumer ddr5 is dual channel and sticking two sticks into a single channel creates a noisy signal that's now a problem with ddr5 speeds

I'm about to be homeless in a couple of days so I have to get rid of my PC fast, how much should I ask for it to make sure it sells?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7VHnQd

>>103170372
>What do you think what does the 9800X3D get? Does it hit 1 K single like the new Intel CPU?
~800
9950X can hit ~900
but CPU-Z is an intel-biased benchmark ever since they "adjusted" it for zen 1, 11900K does ~700 which is simply not accurate with how it performs in the real world compared to the 5800X/5900X

>>103170372
Njudea will make sure xx90 cards are the only cards you should get
>5090 >>>>>> 4090
>5080 <= 4080s
>5080s = 4080s but 24gb vram lole
>5070 < 4070s
>5070 s = 4070 tis
>5060 < 4060ti
>5060 ti = 4060ti

>>103170467
Yes I know it does not reflect real world performance. The 3d cache alone will give it much benefit in many applications and games. Not sure if compression benefits but DDR5 speed alone would likely cut a third of my usual backups.

>>103170469
Of course they do, from a highend owners perspective. So in worst case I stick with the XTX and see to tweak as much as possible out of the new CPU. Even a regular 7800X gives about 20 % in 4K over a Zen 3 CPU, so 40 % is realistic to see with the same GPU.

I am upgrading to an x870e motherboard for WiFi 7 lmao

>>103170445
They should go back to selling those dummy RAM sticks then like they used to in the late 00's so we can have the illusion of quad sticks at least.

I'm looking to finally upgrade from my 1080ti and was wondering if I should go for a 7900xtx or wait for the 50 series? I was leaning towards xtx but have heard that DLSS is far superior to FSR. Will be primarily for 4k gaming.

>>103170488
>Not sure if compression benefits but DDR5 speed alone would likely cut a third of my usual backups
you don't really get that much more memory bandwidth on the new ryzen chips
the fabric on zen 3 tops out around 1900 FCLK
the fabric on zen 4/5 tops out around 2100 FCLK
so you're getting ~10-30 GB/s higher peak bandwidth on the new chips depending on what configuration you're running right now

IMO it was a huge mistake not to release zen 4 on AM4, that would have made lower/mid-end intel chips like the 12600K/13600K obsolete overnight

>>103170378
it's the best one and it just launched its normal for it to be sold out.

>>103170513
get the rtx5080

>>103170513
>>103170549
That's what I was thinking, just hoping it isn't TOO stupidly expensive.

>>103170456
$1200

>>103170588
Thanks for the input, I was going to list it for 1000 but I was afraid that's too much for such a short time. I'll start at 1200 for the first few hours.

Want to upgrade from a 10g 3080 to a 16gb 4070 ti super before shit gets super expensive next year. Now that evga is gone the only brand thing I know is
>dont get asus because their RMA blows ass
>don't get unknown chinese shitbrands
What's the go to now? MSI?

>>103170598
No one currently in the market comes close to how EVGA was, but your best bets are MSI, GIGABYTE, ZOTAC (in my experience)

>>103170597
no problem, I hope you sort out your housing situation soon.

>>103170456
$600 if I'm feeling generous.

>>103170598
get pny. its literally an american aib unlike the crew of taiwanese companies like assus and gigashite

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r8 my current build

>>103170456
jeez, I wouldn't take less than $1500 with those components, you'd have to be retarded to skip on a deal like that so I'm pretty confident it'll sell with that price

>>103170652
worse than a ps5. 5/10

>>103169359
kek. what a retard. nice three month deposit to amazon with zero (NIL) interest.

>>103170670
amazon doesnt charge until it ships out

>>103170456
Upset mommy and she has threatened you?

>>103170682
that's what they want you to think, meanwhile in reality your money is already on their book and they can use this as leverage to get more loans and funds from banks and investors. economy 101.

>>103169197
Just make sure it's the cl30 kit for the ram.

>>103170652
>disabled virtualization
>anus mb
>3000 mhz ram
>evg-ACK
>njudea
10/10

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>>103170652
fellow 2060 KO bro.
its fine for 1080p/10.
if you have the money a platform upgrade is where you should be looking but if you're poor like me then upgrading to a 2x16 3600 CL18 kit would be the next step. then a 5700X3D from ali express, then see what AMD brings with the 8700XT.

>>103170665
the PS5 gpu is basically a RX5700 with RDNA2 RT cores. which is basically a 2060. so with the 3700X its pretty much exactly a PS5.

>>103170728
its actually 3600 but he must have forgot to turn on XMP

>>103170710
not my problem if the money is still in my bank account

>>103170740
good goy.

>>103170728
it's running at 1800*2 = 3600
must be manually OCed
>>103170729
you should enable XMP

>>103169341
Asrock is still better for am5. X870 pro rs is 200 Bux.

>>103170736
clock shows 1.5k for one dimm and the fucking ram product name says "3000C15". it's rated 3000 when oc, retard.

>>103170746
oops, my bad. I'm a retard. >>103170757

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>>103170746
>you should enable XMP
it is, its an old screenshot. overwrote it just now

>>103170761
i don't blame you because that model number is indeed for a 3000C15 kit

>>103170502
Upgrading from?

>>103170768
good
because i've been thinking of creating an AI that crawls 4chan for hwinfo screenshots and calls you a faggot if you forget to enable XMP
(i'm kidding, but that would be a public good)

>>103170729
no it's a 6700 10gb + console optimization, but good attempt at cope there

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/h3DmGJ
r8 my cr8 m8s.
is it gr8 or b8?

7800xt will be replaced in the future after NVIDA and AMD play their hand.

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i havent had a dedicated gpu in like 5 years
my current 5600g setup is inaudible, can i make any random 6600xt inaudible with undervolting and arctic p12s without losing more than like 10-20% of performance?

>>103170862
If you want a silent card the best option would be an overbuilt 4060 but that's very bad value.

>>103167583
>picrel

What is wrong with this?

>>103170804
its official product name is Navi 12 lite with 36 CUs
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/amd-oberon.g936
AMD only released Navi 12 to the professional market with 40CUs
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/amd-navi-12.g922
meanwhile the 5700 got the same CUs but was Navi 10
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-5700.c3437

V540
Generation: Navi
Graphics/Compute: 10.1.2
Shader ISA: GFX10.1 (gfx1011)
Display Core Next: 2.1.0
Video Core Next: 2.0.2
System DMA: 5.0.5
Platform Security Processor: 11.0.9
CLRX: GCN 1.5.1

PS5
Generation: Navi
Codename: Navi12 Lite
Ray Tracing Cores: 1st Gen
Graphics/Compute: 10.1.3
Shader ISA: GFX10.3 (gfx1013)
Display Core Next: 2.x
Video Core Next: 2.4

6700 10gb
Generation: Navi II
Codename: Navy Flounder
Ray Tracing Cores: 1st Gen
Infinity Cache: 1st Gen
Graphics/Compute: 10.3.2
Shader ISA: GFX10.3 (gfx1031)
Display Core Next: 3.0.0
Video Core Next: 3.0.0
System DMA: 5.2.2
Platform Security Processor: 11.0.11

>>103170870
i dont give a shit i asked a different quesetion

>>103170862
just buy a 4090 and play on low setting, bro.

>>103167583
is 4k worth it or should i just settle for 1440p?

>>103170904
i already have two 4090s but i only use them to generate anthro porn

>>103170911
wait for 8k. two more weeks.

>>103170768
Why don't you get a 5600 for ~50 €? I saw them even below that. Thats actually worse than my R7 1700 I keep as a survival GPU because its not worth anything anymore. But still useful in case I sell my main rig.
>>103170525
They should have made dual memory controllers again like with the Phenoms. That would have been a huge game changer for a generational change.

>>103170919
yeah I'm planning on upgrading to a 5600, but like I said, poorfag.

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So how much faster is the 5090 going to be compared to the 4090?

>>103170962
about tree fiddy

>>103170962
500-600 watts for 5% performance uplift.

>>103170962
30-60% and 28 or 32gb of vram. if it's on the lower end of those estimates then fuck that thing, but 32 GB and another 50% uplift for $1799? yes, please. 4090 will easily stay above $1k if I even wanna sell it.

>>103170962
my guess is 50% more performance and it will be priced 55% more at 2.5K but will sell for 3K

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found a 78x3d locally for 350usd is that good? gonna go pick it up friday

>>103170990
X3D looking a little sus there

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>>103170996
xdd3 bro fuly legit

>>103170990
that's unbeatable until the 9800x3d comes down in price to $400 which will take a while

>>103171070
based shame i wont have the rest of the pc until december but recycling my 79xtx into it and some ssds got a m2 4tb 2tbs 96gb ddr5 6400 cl32 ram gonna be a monster

>>103170028
>now
it was only in a 2021 batch

>>103171070
it'll be February once all the orders have cleared through

>>103171070
Will it really come down with 5090 releasing at the same time with the new batch of 9800x3ds? People will look to build a new PC all year long, that'll move the demand a bit.

>>103171167
My prediction, it will go down to somewhere around $420 until tariffs are put in and the price increases all the way to $750 or higher.

>>103171177
Tariffs won't apply to an American company. Be serious if you're going to analyze stuff and think clearly.

>>103171182
>doesn't know how tariffs work
bro...

>>103171150
so it'll be at its $480 msrp in february
getting it down to $400 will take a while since that only happens when sales slow down

>>103170942
Shit country? Because its really little money for huge gain. Aim for your priorities. I also have to "live" off 200 € a month and still have a decent 7900 XTX build. The main difference is it takes a lot of time to save and I need to resell my old stuff before I can afford something expensive and then still buy used and hunt weeks for good offers.
>>103170990
7800X3D for 350 is ripoff.

One out of every 10 boots or so I get a "bad boot", stuttering, crap audio quality, measurably (like 20%) worse GPU performance, sometimes even complete system lockups. After shutting down from this, the system doesn't post unless I clear cmos (even though I'm already running defaults). I thought this was memory related but it happens more of less the same with multiple kits in various configurations. I also tested all the memory and PCIe slots and I don't think all of them are bad, particularly because on most boots the system runs perfectly. I'm almost out of ideas, could my CPU memory controller be borked?

>>103171197
>Shit country?
Australia.

>>103171207
are you on ryzen or intel?

>>103171150
cool ill sell my 78x3d and get a 9800x3d on special then i guess
>>103171197
for aussie prices its cheapest ive seen

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>>103171182
30 years ago, 1/3 of international trade was between multinationals. Today it is probably closer to 50%. Of course it will apply to American companies. Otherwise it simply will not work to reshore industry.

>>103171192
You're confused in your chain of reasoning. Tariffs apply to foreign imported goods, like garbage plastic Chinamen are selling you.
An American company having assembly lines abroad and ordering a Taiwanese fab to make their chips is not interacting with tariffs at any part of its chain.
You're surely a troll.

The only way for an nvidia product to increase is price is if chinese monitors, cases, peripherals etc. increase so much in price that it affects the demand for PCs in general, which directly affects GPU sales.

>>103171211
same here mate i hate it

>>103167822
With zen5 x3d, there is no reason to buy X parts at all.
They're literal ewaste.

>>103171219
The point of the tariffs is to benefit the GDP and adjust trade deficits not to bring industry home. That would require planning and way more stuff.

>>103171212
Ryzen 2600X. I also have a 5700X3D from Aliexpress on the way but it arrives in 3 weeks.

>>103171233
that will change once 9600x drops to $180, 9700x to $250 and 9950x to $500
they'll be perfect dumping grounds for subpar dies that cant meet the standard for x3d

>>103171221
How many american AIB graphics card manufacturing companies can you name?

>>103171207
>>103171243
it sounds like your cpu is very marginal and even defective where it will sometimes train the wrong settings when booting up

>>103171233
maybe I am poor

>Samsung 870 EVO 4 TB : 2400 TBW
>Samsung PM893 3.8 TB : 7008 TBW
>Samsung PM897 3.8 TB : 21024 TBW
How does that work? all three use the same controller and NAND chips.

I correct myself, seems like Trump wants a blank tax on all imports from China, agnostic of their source, american or not corporation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn?useskin=vector
Seems like Nvidia is fucked because they assemble it in China. Will they just buy store houses in another country to circumvent the tariff?

>>103171268
I mean it works for Putin.

>>103171268
>the US uses the "substantial transformation" rule to determine a product's country of origin for tariff purposes. Simply moving the final assembly to Taiwan wouldn't necessarily change the origin if the majority of the components are still from China and the assembly process doesn't add significant value. If the US Customs and Border Protection deems that the substantial transformation still occurred in China, the higher tariff could still apply.
lol

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>>103170962
33% in raster

>>103170978
>60%
maybe in stable diffusion, but certainly not in gaymes
>for $1799
LOL. try $2500

>>103171268
>build 99% of gpu in china
>ship it to vietnam and install the final screw
>"made in vietnam"
>???
>china tax dodged

>>103171296
apparently not
https://www.trade.gov/rules-origin-substantial-transformation

but I assume Nvidia can still sell cheap Chinese cards to the rest of the world without any extra cost - I just wonder what % of their sales comes from the US market.

>>103171262
What do you have now?
Best bang for buck is probably 11900 ES and an Asrock Z590 board from aliexpress.
~$150 ameribux, ~$240 dollerydoos.

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>I voted for Trump, can't wait for those tariffs to own the libs

>>103171328
my issue is I live in a 3rd world country and import parts here because it's cheaper than buying locally. Nigs here really charge you 2,000 ameribux for an i5 14400 and rtx 4070 pc. So I buy stuff for less than $200 so as not to pay taxes and have to suck it when it comes to the gpu

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>>103171234
False, you fucking retard.
https://apnews.com/article/tariffs-trump-taxes-imports-inflation-consumers-prices-c2eef295a078a76ce2bb7fedb0c5e58c

In this same segment he also states he is willing to tax American companies.

>>103171368
Sweet. My Made in Mexico Fenders just went up in value.

>>103171353
Look into the 11900 ES then.
CPU - https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807353164958.html
MB - https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807523077561.html

US $190
China ships anywhere.

>>103171331
lol usa will end up with the most expensive ecltronics i nthe world

>>103171448
US will end up with a functional manufacturing industry while Europe, Africa and India will become like Bulgaria.

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>>103170990
Seems breddy gud
Buy buy buy

>>103171331
Small price to pay to keep wokeness away from our kids

Any mATX case that supports around ~4 3.5in drives? Mainly just trying to change from my current tower to a smaller case + want to keep my shitty 240gb sata drives until I buy a good hard drive/SSD

>>103171473
Europe already has a fully functioning manufacturing industry...
Despite some naysayers, guess what EU does... Tariffs! Guess what - they work!

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Think 4080 to 5080 will be a worthwhile upgrade?

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>>103170042
>>103170099
Finally got her working. Thanks everyone

>>103171515
You can use PCPP filters for that:
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/case/#J=4,20&t=7,6&sort=price&page=1
The selection is... not great. From what I can see the Silverstone G1M looks decent but needs some compromise and is a hard sell at $150 - almost certainly cheaper to buy a "normal" case and a big, cheap HDD to consolidate.
In fact, that's what I'd recommend generally. Compromising your case selection over some ancient hard drives, that you plan on getting rid of anyway, is a dumb idea.

>>103171650
It's more like... two 240gb SSD's and then a single 1TB HDD.

>>103171662
That's much better then. No need for all those big 3.5" bays - most cases stash a few 2.5" mounts around and, being SSDs, in the worst case you can just velcro them to the case.
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/case/#J=2,20&t=7,6&sort=price&page=1&K=2,17
As you can see there's a much wider selection. What sort of budget are you looking at for the whole upgrade?

>>103171650
Not him, but how feasible is it to just add extra 3.5" slots if there's room in the case? Seems like bottlenecking your choice of case isn't worth it when a little 3.5" drive holder would cost like $5 from aliexpress.

>>103171556
rumored 400w so probably no

>>103171682
I'm just planning for the future whenever I do upgrade to AM5 since I just bought a 4070 ti super, RAM and (finally) some good storage. Also will be buying a new monitor soon anyways so my next (very major) upgrade will probably be next year unless I find a way to sell/repurpose my older parts.

>>103171683
Very feasible if the case has mount points for them. A lot of manufacturers will sell you dedicated trays for just that purpose (though the quantity might be limited in a mATX model).
If not, then we're talking case modding which is certainly possible but more of a "project" than plug & play. Again, if you factor in time/effort, it's almost certainly cheaper to just buy a big HDD and dump all your bulk data on to it.

>>103171742
>>103171742
>>103171742

>>103171628
congrats!
ram training will happen again.
randomly longer boot times are the new normal, don't panic.

Realistically are the 50s even worth it given the 40s do everything you could possibly want in gaming.