How was life without the smartphones?t. newborn 2006 baby
>>103196638it was different. people were only online for short periods of time, maybe not even every day. and before 2007 you were still kind of a weirdo if you spent too much time online. girls only used it for msn messenger and myspace and maybe chatrooms. forums were thriving however. also what he says >>103196735 the web was predominantly white people only.
>>103196638people interacted more and had more friends. you could equally call that "life before social media" but smartphones and the societal issues caused by excessive internet use are heavily intertwined. back in the day it was just us nerds that spent all day on the computer, and we still had slower internet and more irl nerd friends. hey anon, guess what pic related is for.
>>103196741so many good forums lost to time
It was shit. You actually had to leave the house to go buy stuff and tinder hookers were harder to find. You are living in a glory age of comfort.
People used to bike to your house and knock on your window "CAN ANON COME TO PLAY" and you would leave your counter strike 1.5 game and go outside and swap pokemon cards and then make a plan to meet after to school to hang out in the forest and pretend aliens were attacking so you have to shoot them with your stick gun.Then one day you had to visit this other guy's house and it was a huge deal when making a new friend. Seeing his room and all shit stuff and hanging out in his garden. And the directions would be like "take a left at that gas station and then follow the road until you see this little path through the forest and then you go past that old fountain statue and uhh"So the best way was to go there with them and then memorize the way from school.
>>103196638we had mobile phones which looked good or interesting and fit your pocket turn off internet on ur slabphone and see how bad it really is as a phone
>>103196789And you had to memorize the phonenumbers to people and if they were using the dsl modem it wouldn't work to call them.
>How was life without the smartphones?Nobody made friends because there was no social media. And nobody talked or had sex since there was no social media. And nobody knew anyone since there were no phones. Nobody talked. There was no sun. It was in the dark before before times
You used to be outside playing all summer, literally 12 to 24. And when you weren't you were playing multiplayer/coop on consoles physically
this website will keep being shit as long as m*ds let under 25's post
>>103196830The rich kid always had the superior water gun and using the garden hose or a bucket was be considered "cheating". It was tough times.
Better. Don't let anyone convince you otherwise. No trannies, no corporations, no feds
>>103196638little to no online ads, no cookies, no tracking, no targeting, no data mining etc
It's funny seeing videos of 90s or earlier kids who today would qualify as chads but back then they were losers
>>103196786whats dr phil expression supposed to convey here?
>>103196638Women were more feminine, men were more masculine. Less fat crazy cunts everywhere telling you what you should and should not to do.
>>103196858I couldn't see Dr. Phil clearly. The troon's father looks like he's devastated though. That's the look of a man who knows his genetic line has ended. What a terrible fate; hell on Earth, a living nightmare.
>>103196767Not op but that is an adapter for tape cassette player <-> external player (usually an mp3 one). I had one for my first car.
>>103196830>And when you weren't you were playing multiplayer/coop on consoles physicallyI don't remember having any multiplayer games on my sega. We usually just took turns playing singleplayer games.
>>103196638The internet was still a secret club only your friends knew about.
>>103196735it was not less niggers, niggers were the same and still in their gettos, the problem is how easy is now to access internet. and op i would say it was better but that is very boomer and i love my smartphone, the problem is that i love it because i understand how hard was to get or access information in internet but zoomies dont get that, they have all the info in their head from the beginning and they dont know something better because the things they are watching are the only thing they can watch, nobody watch TV anymore, and cartoons were different each other but now every kid video is the same loop hellhole that doesn't add nothing to kids brain.
>>103196638People were talking to each other in the real world instead of being stuck to muh social media and ignoring everything around.
i was born in 2002 so i don't know if it was better because i was a kid or because there were no smartphones
>>103196785Google search*>>103197255both
>>103196638Well, I remember that instead of a schoolbus we had a dinosaur painted in yellow. We didn't do much at school anyway because writing had not yet been invented.
>>103196638I'm old enough to even remember a time before cellphones. >The goodNo terminally online subhumans, nerd interests were still the exclusive domain of social outcasts, irl friends, lots of them (literally going out EVERY day, even just for hanging out 10 minutes) and with fixed points of encounter (there was no need to organise via phone), things generally more lively (people didn't alienate in the nightmaresquare at every given occasion and just had lasting conversations).>The badMore costly hw. That's the only negative i can think about and i'm stretching it (but i admit to be biased).
>>103196638>2006MODS
My parents used to limit my computer and online time (they were two different things) because the internet was the devil (led me to question and then reject Mormonism so maybe true). Now they are online all the time on their phones (and are no longer Mormon either). Feels pretty weird.
>>103196735>well behaved african americansSee, those are the real danger.
>>103197265>bothmore from the fact that I was a kid or from the absence of smartphones?
>>103197280I'm 18.
>>103197305Probably kid but even adult life was better
>>103196830>playing until 25back in the day most people were considered adults at 18. most 18 year olds were mature and didn't think they were still children
>>103197320YOU'RE UNDER 25 AND WE AREN'T SICK FUCKS HERE YOU WEIRDO
>>103199403You can't drink legally in the US until you are 21, and your brain isn't fully mature until about then. You do have a point that people are maturing less quickly in modern times. You no longer have child labour and with birth control you can have all the sex you want and not have to grow up because you had a child.
>>103199412I can't care less, grandpafag. I hate my generation, btw. That's why I made the post I'm tired of my friends doomscrolling tiktok and normieslop humor is not even funny and it makes me tired. I just wish to be born a few years back I feel life was more chill.
>>103197177"we" being just you
>>103196638Queuing up outside the phone box to spend a fortune to make a 40 minute call.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnAF2o5y63w
>>103199451>the brain fully matures by 21Spastic sighted
>>103196638From around 2000-2008, the primary method of internet communication was instant messengers, which required someone to be physically seated in front of their computer and giving full attention to whoever they were talking to. The very moment instant messengers made mobile versions available, you could no longer tell who was actually available to talk anymore, even if they were signed in and "online." That was the true beginning of the end. Interactions became more casual and fleeting. Conversations became shorter and less meaningful. Before, I would have 3 hour conversations with a new random person in IM on a nightly basis, with both of us fully invested in the conversation. This kind of eagerness and excitement just to get to know other people, to hear their experiences and exchange thoughts and ideas has been completely lost thanks to the more casual nature of mobile phones. No one can have anyone's full attention anymore. The internet becoming more shitty and hostile is because of this, in my opinion, because there's no room for people to REALLY hear each other and become friends in the same way as before.
>>103199472Around that time. The brain being physically mature does not say anything about the maturity of the person. You could argue you're still forming your personality until you're 40 or older.
>>103199466A few more years back (01) here. Nothings different. I happen to remember life before smartphones but no one else does.
>>103196638Internet and real life were two separate things. No one would talk about the latest stupid Tiktok trend or Xitter controversy as they do today. The only way to connect to the internet was using a desktop computer or a laptop, so that was somewhat of a filter. And you connected to the internet when you need to actually do something that you couldn't do offline, like sending an email, looking for information about some topic or downloading ROMs. And then you went offline.
>>103196735Broken brain
>>103199507You know, you could just go educate yourself on the subject, instead of being yet another confidently wrong, 85 IQ reddit scientist.
>>103199498>Before, I would have 3 hour conversations with a new random person in IM on a nightly basis, with both of us fully invested in the conversation.you can literally still do this now on pisscord. in fact it's all zoomies do. just stay on pisscord all day in chat rooms. they do not leave their homes either.
>>103199507your personality never stops forming
>>103199601actually its foamed ant broth
Portable media was a steep premium during the 2000's. We can take for granted now that every phone and tablet can double as an mp3 player and playback any 1080p video, but back then a iPod was $400 and while there were cheaper options, you were still paying over $100 just for a music player. If you wanted to play video on-the-go and you had something that could play video (like a PSP), you had to transcode the video down to a very specific format that it could read.
>>103196638As a millennial we just had phones without social media/internet. So they were used mostly for texting/calling. You could take pics and videos with those phones but they were pretty bad in quality, also you could send pics (mms instead of sms, stood for multimedia messaging service) but it costed way more than a regular text (sms) as far as I remember. So basically you could "sext" back then too but it was more grainy and expensive
>>103196638I guess it was fine, I used to actually buy magazines and read (physical) books when I was going on trips instead of zoning out on my phone while traveling, I had an iPod for music and whatever too. Part of me is tempted to try a little digital detoxification.
>>103199601Yeah you turn 60 and suddenly start gambling! No, it is more stable after your 20s. Sure, you still change over time but you're not going to randomly change from being an angry coot to a nice person. Maybe excepting a religious conversion. >>103199586>educate yourselfWow how helpful. You suggest I read some plebbit posts? Maybe I can read some ChatGPT created psychology journal articles???? Do better.
I was in my last years of highschool when smartphones started to be in exponential demand and as a child cellphones were only something hyper rich kids had and they were basically just phones + snake. I can categorically tell you internet and cultural brain rot already existed and there were the same amount of contrarians reactionaries talking about it. Now you don't have to believe me, the internet has allowed everyone to see this. Yes it is real you will eventually struggle with the realities of life and it will be harder for you to "understand" new generations and it will be harder for you to adopt new things. In reality you cannot change much and just hope you don't get drafted or killed in a nuclear Armageddon. Abe Simpson was right, it will happen to you.
>>103199874"i used to be with it" simpsons scene is still the best explanation of this. probably always will be.
>>103196638less youtube, more ringtones
>>103196767I remember wishing I could get to Google on my calculator.
>>103199796>>103199796>Yeah you turn 60 and suddenly start gambling!at like 40 due to mid life crisis you might>No, it is more stable after your 20ssome people stabilize in their early teens, some don't until their 30s. too much stability for too long or some dramatic events can make you unstable again tho>>103199451https://slate.com/technology/2022/11/brain-development-25-year-old-mature-myth.html
You had to bring change to school to call your parents if you missed the bus.The rich fags had pagers.
>>103200049what? your school didn't have regular phones?
>>103196638It was different, but still sucked, just in different ways.
>>103200122They had a payphone
>>103196638Castrated identity politics wasn't a thing that you see. People on the left loved free speech. People on the right would try to censor sexy/violent stuff. All the big technology were openly free speech advocates. So was all the civil rights org like EFF. Now its just all tranny propaganda nonstop.
>>103196638It took money and brains to go "online". So conversations with other human beings was actually possible. People could have friends from all dregs of society. In the early 2000's I had friends from all sorts of walks of life. Then the iPhone happened. Then politics grabbed the interest of the general public.
>>103196786>You actually had to leave the house to go buy stuffOh yea... I remember when people could actually open up a business and attempt to be successful. Can't do that anymore.
>>103200617Pfffft in 2006 every retard had a myspace account. You are delusional.
>>103196856Girls in the 90's were such awful prudes. You have no idea.
>>103197296>reject MormonismAll I had to do was sit down and attempt to read the "testimonies" to do that.
>>103199507>You could argue you're still forming your personality until you're 40 or older.Great... so adulthood really fucked my life up for good didn't it?
>>103200645Wasn't talking about 2006 you fucking retard. I was talking about 1998 to 2004.
>>103196638Yapping is considered something Tik Tok invented?I've been saying "yapping" since probably 2005.
>>103196638Quieter, if you wanted to talk to your friend you would call them on the land line and ask if they wan to hang out. Or if you knew they used a messenger, you could ask them there. With phones before the current smart phones, you could text your friend but people didn't have long conversations, just enough to get the message across. One of the reasons leet speak came about was to make texting quicker. T9 fixed a lot of that though.
>>103196767I used to use one for my walkman CD player in my old car. CD player decks were expensive so I got by with the walkman and would just take it with me.
>>103196767Today that's great for playing games you load from a smartphone into an older computer you don't have a disk drive or disk drive emulator for.
>>103196735rodney king was 1991
>>103196638Instead of sitting on discord we were sitting on Skype, Teamspeak or IRC and instead of staying late playing some weird indies we were playing MMOs.
>>103196638i kinda feel sorry for you zoomies. you have no idea how good life was without internet. (especially social media)
>>103200789I feel sorry for gen x and millennial boomers. You are old, balding, the best years of your life are long past and you will die alone soon without having reproduced or formed a lasting bond with a woman.
>>103200789I feel bad for zoomers until I remember how shitty it was being raised by boomers. We had it better and worse in different ways, but I try to be sympathetic since no one was to me when I was their age.
>>103200952Bro, the anon offers you sympathy and you just lash out. We've all fucked in different ways.
>>103200992We're*
>>103199796>repeats deboonked pop science>"you have to spoon feed me the deboonk, otherwise I'm right"
>>103199466>>103199533Same (t. 02)Things did used to be more chill but you have to keep up with the times.Also all zoomers "hate their generation". But we used to despise a lot of this shit that millenials blame us for today. It happened because we stopped bullying and being toxic to the younger zoomers at some point. So set your friends straight. Don't just mock brainrot, mock them for engaging with it.What where you going in 2016? Because I was getting faggots to drink bleach and bullying Musically kids.
I was mostly just seething with jealousy of people in 6th grade through my junior year of high schoolAt first because they could play games and then because they had access to pornt. Didn't have a smartphone until I was a juniorAnd that was also my first Internet connection, didn't have access to landline until I went to college You can only jack off to the same playboy magazine so many times before it does nothing for you
>>103200978Boomers really did make for awful parents. The worst of both worlds. Having abusive parents and seeing the participation trophy culture at the same time sure was something.
>>103200996So you're an incel is what you're so desperately trying to convey here.
>>103197320whats it like being 18 in this fucked up world? maybe to you its normal but to me im 28 and ive seen some of the most backwards 1-step-forward-10-steps-back mentalities. whats it like growing up with that
>>103201439>>103197320also to answer your question, it was better. supposedly im looking at it through rose tinted glasses but i remember what the internet was like before minorities and women were on it like they are. i remember being considered on the lower end, loser geek type for playing video games that were on the computer and being on internet forums. now people think its the hottest shit ever, they even make money off it. but back then you were actually no joke socially ostracized for it. its funny that i hate video games now. i thought id love them forever but its all faggot DEI-level slop nonsense. i can only play anything xbox 360 era and lower. it was just different back then, for the better in my opinion
>>103199498That still happens all the time on discord. I’ve joined random groups and made good friendships accidentally. I’ve noticed they’re usually college age. I think there was a time when online interaction flatlined, but zoomers have since found their own IM.
>>103196796>had to memorize the phonenumbersPen and paper used to exist back then too, believe it or not
>>103199466Ah let me guess, you were born in le wrong generation?
>>103196638Frankly, it was not so stressful. or maybe I’m just getting older.
>>103196638>How was life without the smartphones?I used to use the pay phone with my coinage. Or the house phone if it was ok with dad. Because getting caught ringing sex phone lines really sucks. >yeah that's it, stick that fist all the way up your bum
>>103196638It's over, someone on 4chan is 3 years younger than me. I'm getting old, and haven't achieved anything in life yet.
>>103196735why are you so obsessed with niggers, anon?
Days were more distinct and life was less of a blur. (Your dopamine receptors weren't as fried and neural pathways were less dominated by the smartphone)There was many more conversations with random people for the purpose of information exchange. (You had to talk to people to figure things out)People regularly sat on thoughts, ideas, stories, etc for whole nights before sharing it with people. (You waited to tell people things in person)Administrative tasks related to doing things were significantly more arduous (You had to fill out paperwork like an adult instead of pressing and swiping like a toddler)People were myopic, misanthropic, obstinate and overall retarded (You still hated life but you didn't have a smartphone to blame it on)t. 1989
>>103196638I swear if I hear this fucking zoomer term brainrot Im gonna strangle you worthless sacks of shit. Brainrot sounds like some fucking 50yr old grandma boomer making a word for kids who use the fucking phone.
>>103200789>>103200978fucking delusional. im almost 40 and i know this shit is bullshit
>>103202931wrong. none of that is true at all. The dopamine bullshit was just placed else where.
>>103201416I'm actually happily married. Shit-fling all you want if it's therapeutic. None of us had any control over the circumstances we were born into.
>>103197320anybody born after 1999 is perpetually underageb&
>>103201017>unironically thinks calling something "debunked" (by who?) means she/they win the argument
>>103202779If you haven't been on 4chan for at least as long as OP has been alive than you are too new to use 4chan and should go back to shitcord/reditt. someone whose been browsing since /g/ was /g/uro. desu desu
>it's another session of pathetic oldfags not growing up past their imageboardit's so sad you keep seeing this as something impressive, atleast i have the excuse of not knowing better
>>103203233what else is there?
>>103199451stop infantilizing youngfags
>>103196638Born 1994 and yuropean, tech was a touch behind in terms of mainstream adoption here so we had more time to live in the "old world". It's really hard to convey the peace of it all. The peace, man. The mental tranquility. Even when the very first "smartphones" arrived we were still present and in the moment. Then 2008 happened.
>>103196638we still had dumb phones in mid 00's. I was in a middle school back then. We were playing java games like Gravity Defied and listening to 50 cents on shitass phone speakers. That's was amazing.
>>103203275fellow 1994 Asian, we had only consoles, and only had one mobile phone with no internet. There were a couple kids who already had internet and were playing MMOsGunZ was the shitIn highschool there was a whole lot more mobile phone use among teens and I only had a dumb phone for the longest time, but I was hooked on watching anime and started getting addicted to erogesmartphone use for me was from college onwards, and I've hated being reliant on it as much as I am now. Doesn't help that banks fucking make it compulsory to use a phone to authenticate payments
>>103196841I was the rich kid and I stole dad's fancy pants hose attachment and brought it with me. Win/win. Cheating with a weapon of mass destruction. Directly aiming at the kid that had the silly headset that tooted out a tiny squirt of water every time he said "fire". Thank you Mom for telling me that was a terrible idea.
>goto bus>use the bus regularly -> have a bus card with time credit>stick the card in the reader and have a ride>goto store>at the counter>stick a debit/credit card into the reader and enter PIN>receive bill>take a paper list of codes and login to online bank>or go to bank automat that reads the barcode so you don't have to enter numbers manually
>>103202945That and "mog" and fucking "humiliation ritual". I fucking hate zoomers so much it's unreal.
>>103196638no indians online. Hell no niggers online as well. Even better the few you saw in real life in Europe were actually civilized and articulate.
You have to be 18 to......oh my god
>>103196638the thing you gamed on or took photos with was a Gameboy instead of a phone
>>103202722I remember being in grade 4 and my friend was telling me their Hotmail account at recess time. I literally wrote down "underscore" and it was taking forever so they just emailed me instead kek
>>103196786>Naturally massive back and arms>Troons outHow does this happen?
>>103206081testosterone increases sex drive for both genders
>>103206081Rebellion isn't always conscious or intentional. Sometimes it's poetically or ironically horrid.
>>103196638So imagine the internet except normies don't have video cameras in their pocket 24/7 that can instantly share text and video with billions of people, and they can use that same device to watch videos and read messages from billions of normies and it bounces back in a feedback loop of cancer. There was no megaphone effect. No one could communicate with a giant audience, just much smaller forums where no one could possibly give a fuck about a short video of you being an attention whore, or just blurting out what was on your mind at any given moment. Communications were topical and focused on hobbies and news instead of self image and vanity. The audience was smaller and higher quality because knowing how to use a computer was barrier to entry, and content wasn't so self produced.
>>103196638Same shit, different place.The people who go "look at me I also have brainrot, give me validation and tell me how weird I am" were the "raw xD nuzzles u" Myspace and ICQ girls of yesteryear. Times and change and yet everything stays the same - teens during puberty hit an identity crisis and as part of that they have to find out who or what they want to be. In that process they sometimes act cringe or make mistakes and that's okay.
idk man everyone around me had a smartphone, I was the only one without one and it literally didn't matterthe importance/impact of smartphones is greatly exaggerated by doomposters and millenials trying to demotivate the "le bad people" (zoomers)t.2003 newGOD
>>103199874>>103199894>Everything is just old people thinking young people are retardedWhat a useless take. If you can't remember the difference then qualifying yourself with age was pointless. I had a sidekick in highschool and I would never type this useless shit as an answer to OP. Nor would I project this shit on older generations observing mine. I can easily perceive how their time, culture, and technology were experientially different and not just old man is bitter.
>>103199573>Internet and real life were two separate things.This is the most you can say with one sentence. It can't explain most of it but it's the best distillation there is. I love that we have iron clad proof of it too. "IRL" was an extremely common initialism but the circumstances you would use it now are very niche.
brainrot is.... bad?
>>103196638I was born in 1995 in a rural town in Germany, a place where it took until 2010 for every Normie to own a smartphone. Before that time, people seemed less stressed, less impatient, and far less confused than they do today. After school, my friends and I would sometimes head to one another’s houses, using the landline to call our moms to ask if we could stay for dinner—or, if it was the other way around, invite friends over and have them call their mom. Friends would often show up unannounced, ringing the doorbell to see if you could come out to play. On rainy days, we stayed indoors and played lego or vidya together. I have vivid memories of sitting with two friends in front of a PC, watching one of them play Sims 1. Another time, four of us gathered around my PS1 to play Blast Chamber. We lived in the moment, enjoying each other’s company and having fun without distractions. Nowadays, with smartphones and social media, even the things you try to distance yourself from seem to creep back into your life, always lurking just out of reach. My young mind would have never imagined the future of society to be so grim.
>>103204396Grow up
>>103206178They also hadn’t fully figured out how to monetize it yet
We are at a crucial point in history, not just the atheist history, but the entire history.It's because nowadays men are realizing they just are disposable coomers, they lost their narrative they were the alpha sexWomen realize they are whores and endorse their true nature in public nowThis never happened before and if women can make a sustainable society out of this, we are never ever coming back to the tens of thousands of years of the lie of men being in control of women.Nowadays the inversion is so deep, that the average roastie can become officially a prostitute, bit the modern prostitute:-has no physical contact with men, especially ugly men-is paid by men to have orgasms, instead of giving orgasms to men-is glorified socially by women and menThis has no precedent in history and it changes the deepest and only social fabric which matters
>>103206679I am grown up, you fucking retard and I'm pointing out the cringe immaturity of zoomers and their faggot lingo.
>>103196638Good, I did plenty of dumb shit as a kid that nowdays probably would have been filmed and posted on facebook or other social media by friends and other kids. Glad its only in peoples memories. Smartphones should be banned in schools honestly kids should just get by with dumb phones we all managed when we were younger you don't need to have a screen with unfettered internet access in your hand all the time.
>>103196786I want to have sex with her dad.
>>103206737>if women can make a sustainable society out of this, we are never ever coming back to the tens of thousands of years of the lie of men being in control of women.in what world are women making anything. men are still leading and making everything. its just the middle class that is affected by what you're saying
>>103201017He looks so happy.
>>103204396>humiliation rituallike reading your posts
>>103207130He was in the Olympics. I wasn't.
>>103196638The smartphone quadrupled the American cultural export. Prior to it, it was mainly hollywood and music, which also were very influential, but you could only enjoy them at a certain time and place, not while taking a shit at work. Don't get me wrong, I love the globalization. A global monoculture is a prerequisite for achieving Type I civilization.
>>103206178I came here to post that. Imagine how much better the internet would be if all the subreddits and Discords where self-hosted by fans for other fans to have a space to discuss without up-votes and fake points. That is what social media took form you.Also, most people had enough opsec to not use there real name, unlike today where retards make doxs of themselves and cry to lawmakers to ban Kiwi Farms.>>103206865I agree that Zoomers are infantileized but with modern schooling and a culture obsessed with safety, meany will never have a chance to grow as people. I'm 36 and use some "Zoomer" slang myself. "Brainrot," ironically enough, is a good phase to describe the problem of calling things "Ohio," "Skibidi" or "bussin."The real problem is that some of them are so immersed in in a world of junk data, what Zoomers would call "terminally online"I miss what the Internet used to be just ten years ago. T_T
>>103207801Zoomers are a retarded faggot generation raised by single women and a chimera of everything negative, cringe and retarded of all past generations.
>>103196735>9gag buzzwordpajeet detected
>>103206475wut mango
>>103209871https://mangadex.org/title/d0ddd740-4b91-4c66-bfd0-b36a77f8e730/brainrot-girlfriend
>>103209878>it's not an editI don't know what to say
>>103196638I didn't have to see darkies every time I opened a website because they were too retarded to use computers.
>>103196789why'd you do this to me bro. I want to go back.
>>103208082I'm screencapping this and using it to reply to any zoomer I ever see online ever again.
>>103204396Mog is old af term used on 4chan and ill agree with humiliation ritual as its being over used a fuckload now everywhere.
>>103208082its hilarious how these fucking zoomer retards think millennials raised them when it was gen x dog shit and baby boomers. Right now millennials are raising alpha. Which is fucking hilarious cause you can see how some of alphas memes are evolved versions of millennial memes where as zoomer memes are just straight up ripping off millennial internet memes.
"mid" is another retarded zoomer term that drives me into a violent rage. i want to hurt the zoomie and his cunt mommy so badly
>>103210794>Mog is old af term used on 4chanIt isn't a 4chan term. It originated on misc (old bodybuilding.com forum, and its spinoffs like sluthate and putahate). It started as amog, a term used by pickup artists that meant "alpha male of group" (the guy girls bring to the club with them). The idea being that in order to get laid in a club you need to disarm the AMOG, usually by having your wingman distract him with male-male banter while you seduce the girls.This term was embraced by bodybuilding where it drifted from a noun to a verb so that a you could say "this guy amogged me" essentially meaning "he was more alpha". Then the "a" got dropped and it became "mogged.". Mog now simply means "to be more attractive to women", having drifted significantly from its original meaning and context. >so whatWell most internet lingo / memes on the western internet did in fact originate on 4chan. "Chad" and "Stacy" originated on /r9k/ for example.But certain terms like "mogged" are garbage from other websites. It's sad how much 4chan culture has been diluted by newfaggots over the years."robot" replaced by the reddistism "incel"."cumdumpster" replaced by the reddism "femoid". (did you know 4chan used to have a global wordfilter, on all boards, that would change "femanon" to "cumdumpster")?
>>103196735>tripfagopinion discarded
>>103211024ive been here since 06 and i really cant remember shit but wasnt mog on /fit/ or some shit? i vaguely remember the wordfilter but who tf remembers all that shit anyway.
>2006 is 18 now >been on this shit hole since OP was 4>there are anons that have been on this shit hole since I was 4 Wew lad
>>103197296Mormonism is a cult and has as much to do with Christianity as Islam does.
>>103211717leave
>>103211717been here 21 years
>>103211781I've been an underageb& retard for almost 15 years, you can't stop me now
>>103207782is that a butt? Nice.
>>103210794looking through desuarchive, the earliest instances of "mog" that i can find for /g/ is from 2018, before then it's just misspellings, polish text, or a now-defunct music service
>>103211717i've been here since op was -1feels uncanny bro
>>103206475This is a cute little manga. I have a hard time understanding her though.
>>103199874>only rich kids had mobile phones before smartphones You are full of shit
>>103210806>alphas memes are evolved versions of millennial memesdo you have an example of that anon?t. millenial raising alpha children that are still too young for internet
>>103213171yea, where i live basically every kid had a phone by 2003/2004
What's a realistic solution to bringing up a child in the current year without mandatory exposure to social media? Becoming a part of some kind of conservative/religious community that consciously avoids such things as a whole?
>>103206451i agree this is the essence of it.we even used rl and vl with our nerd friends and tried not to get too many personal information into the internet. video games were the most fun together with other people in person.
>>103212793Basically zoomer faggot lingo
>>103211441lol i memorymog you
>>103196638>Brain rot It's nigspeak
>>103213747If we are genuinely talking about realistic solutions, then there is none. Forcing them to not interact with it at all requires either putting them in a commune or cult (like what you suggested), which will fuck them up in different ways, or harsh controls and punishments in normal society, which will result in them harboring resentment against you and wanting to engage with it even more to rebel.The realistic solution that minimizes fucking up your kids in my opinion is delaying the adoption of social media (so they don't get to be the first kid in their class with a smartphone), offering them healthy and fun alternatives so social media seems less alluring (if they aren't bored out of their mind, doom scrolling isn't nearly as appealing) and then when the majority of their social circle engaged with it you introduce them to it in steps, having frank discussions about risks and benefits with them.Going full cult on them to avoid them interacting at all is far more likely to fuck them up irreversibly.Realistically a lot of it comes down to bad parenting - the kids that are the worst with it are the ones where the parents wanted them to be silent during drives so they put a iPad on the backseat, same as the kids in the past that were sat in front of the TV by their parents so they didn't have to actually be parents. Be a good parent, show them that other things can be more fun, be honest with them about why you want them to be careful and it'll probably work out. Guiding them toward responsible interaction with it is going to be far more healthy, if they never interacted with any of it it'll likely just make them weird and a social outcast.
>>103212793>polish textWe don't have "mog" word in Polish though. We have "smog" but that's the same as in English.
>>103214479there are several instances of "mogę", i was loose with my search
>>103214294The reason I brought up religious/conservative commune, is because then the kids are more likely to be in a circle of friends whose families feel similarly about smartphones/social media, instead of being that one outcast who's not allowed any of the fun stuff that all the peers engage in. I genuinely feel that no matter how strict with this stuff you might be as a parent, it's futile if the kid is gonna be constantly surrounded by things (and creatures) that go against your ideology. My strategy is not to shield the child from this type of society entirely, but to occasionaly and purposely showcase some of the smartphone addict ADHD creatures and say "do you want to end up like this?"
>>103211738It's basically 19th Century Christian fanfiction. They affirm the Bible (KJV only!!!) with caveats. They then have an entire book (The Book of Mormon) that obviously isn't recognized by other sects as canon scripture. It's very different from the mainline Protestant churches or the Catholic or Eastern Orthodox Churches, but they still LARP as Christians and talk about Jesus even if their Jesus seems to be a different entity than the one posited by more traditional Christian churches. I'd say Islam is more of its own thing while Mormonism is more akin to a Christian heresy. Jesus is still an elevated savior figure in Mormonism while Islam views him as just a good human prophet.
>>103214517lol archivemogged
>>103211024I remember when morder was a wordfilter for A HUGE GAPING VAGINA THE SIZE OF A HALLWAY
>>103215575mordor*
>>103214630If your ideology is that you consider technology to be categorically evil then that may be a viable path. As long as your kid agrees with the values of the commune and is content with staying within it, things might even work, you're basically choosing to be Amish at that point and it works for most of them. But if the kid doesn't agree with it or doesn't fit within those narrow social norms, you'll have hurt it more than helped it. I'm not saying it won't work, but I doubt it ultimately does the kid a net good compared to a responsible engagement with these things.As for the latter suggestion, I don't think that will work, you're essentially doing the same as dare tried to do with drugs, and while it seemed to have some effect, it was far from effective - because the kid will try it once or meet people who do and suddenly your extreme examples will be contrasted by normal people which makes you lose all credibility. Just be honest with them, show them the upsides and downsides, be honest about the severity of the risks and I think it can work. Granted I'm not American, maybe if more kids were actual ADHD zombies here I'd change my opinion, but while I do think most parents are far too relaxed with how their kids engage with social media, it's not that bad with young people I see.
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>>103196638I had a DS in my hand rather than a phone in the years between 2006-2010I did read more books during that time, but after getting the internet in my hand in 2011 it was over for touching books outside of school.Its fucking wild to hear phones are basically allowed everywhere, anytime in schools.
>>103215724>If your ideology is that you consider technology to be categorically evilNo, I consider certain kinds of software to be categorically harmful. In particular, the kind where you put stuff "out there" and hope for peer approval. Nothing wrong with smartphones or direct messaging with individuals. I don't necessarily want to become a part of an "Amish" commune, but I don't want my kids to be the only ones in their peer group to have such restrictions either, because then what's the point.
>>103207782@realprettyangel for anyone wondering>>103196638I guarantee that in the early 2000s there were a bunch of people wishing to go back to the 80s.And in the 1980s there were a bunch of people wishing to go back to the 60s.
>>103196638The only thing I missed is starlit night sky.Now the night sky is always pit black, sad.
>>103216689>anon moved to a citykek
>>103213747Don't let them use a smartphone or tablet. Curate actual good shit for them to watch. There's lots of good old episodes of sesame street.
>>103216207broccoli head
>tfw no brainrot gfhttps://nhentai.net/g/533986/
>>103196789;_;
I've never owned a cell phone and never will. Things are still the same for me. Not for everyone else though, sometimes I feel like a character in a twilight zone episode.
>>103196786if i was his father i would be laughing so hard telling him how ridiculous he looks and how he don't pass.
>>103196789Yeahhhhhh. >when you finally got the 20' phone cord so you could talk to girls from the other room and mom wouldn't hear you from the kitchen.
>>103196638uh people did have retarded 'brainrot' slang but it was more region-specific, so kids in northern Ontario and kids in Miami, FL would both speak totally different grating obnoxious dialects
>>103196638Yapping is considered brainrot lingo now?
>>103200617I'm pretty sure it was just other AI bots back then as well.
>>103221498Like totally.
>>1032137471. No smartphone until they can buy one with their own money (same prerequisite for signing on a social network). They can still use a locked down with parental control shared family tablet at home.2. No direct access to YouTube and TickTock, they can still search the content through third part portals or apps (initially supervised only). This is to avoid creating compulsory scroll habits and shaping the algorithm on the children (and vice versa).3. Linux on the PC (if any) with a lower privileged user and kiosk'd settings (they can get a superuser one once they fulfill the smartphone prerequisite). This is to avoid as much as possible gatcha-like compulsory games (which often rely on anticheat) and setting a higher bar to overcome for the kid in order to get a particular game working unsupervised.I think this should be enough.
>>103213649Skibidi toilet is a gmod meme
>>103214107yeah probably I can only remember small bits of shit thats happened like >>103215575i remember the huge gaping vagina the size of a hallway vaguely. By the time I am 40 ill probably have got full blown dementia.
>>103196638>brainrotAh yes the new word of the week
>>103196786... to buy groceries maybe, but online retail was already thriving by the late 90s.
>>103225590>but online retail was already thriving by the late 90sOh so we're just making up shit as we go now? Or are you just another zoomer who thinks the 90's was the same as your childhood in the mid to late 00's?
>>103199791You should go forward with that idea.
>>103213747No. Just be a good parent and make sure you know what your kids are indulging in. Don't let them go on the iPad all day. Show them things you like in life. Be involved and love them. Stuff like that.
>>103196638I miss the time where my mother would take me to my friend's house without knowing if they were home or not.
>>103196638There was this awkward phase where everyone used pagers and this awkward phase where texting was a thing on dumb phones and you had to hit the button a few times to get the letter you wanted.
>>103200784Backlash was contained to LA. The point stants.
>>103196767People interacted with other people in a wide range of age. Social media and smartphones try hand with the idea that humans who are older that 30 are "ancient". There arent "ancient" people in social media, everybody are 29 or less.
>>103229821I remember going onto IRC and early aim chats and shit talking to people in there 50s and 60s and now i have zoomer faggots telling me I am to old to use fucking discord. Seriously, I fucking hate zoomers.
>>1031966382002 here and i remember it being a lot of television at least in my household. cable tv was still pretty popular.
>>103200558if it wasn't often you could go to a local business that you frequent and ask to borrow their phone
>>103206081why isn't it never the dainty feminine ones that troon out?
>>103199942>slateOh shit, how could I argue with that irrefutable proof? You got me.>>103200645>Pfffft in 2006 every retard had a myspace account.And then by 2010 nobody had one.
>>103233031If you were near a local business.Though any local business being near an elementary or middle school wouldn't give a kid the time of day
>>103233379there was a dollar slice pizza place right in front of my middle school, I was able to use their phone once during an unexpected minimum day
>>103214294>they will rebelwhy are the little shits like this? how'd the peasants of the medieval age manage it?
>>103203412Based. At my school we listened to breaking benjamin and linkin park on our dumb phones though.
if you are from 2006 then you lived 9 years in the pre-smartphone era, lol math...right?
>>103233981I had one in 2012 but that's because I'm a giga nerd, you are right in saying it was widely diffused around 2015 among the general population
>>103229622>Backlash was contained to LA.You're welcome.
>>103233778Parents used to beat their kids. They stopped and kids got a lot worse.
I played game boy and read mikey mouse a lot, was easily bored, constantly annoyed my mom by repeating "let's go home let's go home let's go home" whenever we were anywhere because I was so bored, watched sonic run across walls
>>103196735You're probably brown
People had hobbies and less gamblingParents had to try a bit harder to look after their kids instead of giving them an Ipad with Babyshark songsTV, specially kids shows, was insanely better. Shows were as addicting and actually enjoyable. You are likely to enjoy kids shows up to 2010 as an adult
>>103196735yes it was retard
>>103196638
>>103234546>tfw i lived through the golden cartoon-network "what a cartoon" age to the zombified CN ttgo! cancer spread enshittification.I want to go back
>>103233778Meh it kinda makes sense. Kids have to figure out the boundaries of what they can and can't do to know where they are, otherwise we'd all be conformist drones and carbon copies of each other. It's natural and probably good that we do it, as parents it just sucks because there's some lessons and some pain you can't really protect your kids from as a result. Thankfully drugs (and that includes mindless media consumption) isn't one of these inevitable mistakes, and you can guide them to engage with it responsibly (if at all).
>>103199533>>103199466>01>02>05Don't start with the wrong generation bullshit, you don't remember the world before smartphones took off, you were 8-9 years old by the time they had already taken off.>why isn't the internet as good as it used to be?You're all knee deep in netflix, crunchyroll and LGBT and all this other shit you don't need, and you bring it here. 9 times out of 10, when someone makes a garbage post here now, it's a zoomer who wants to rate something up or down. The absolute minimal response.>>103202931Before the smartphone era, and following stupid celebrities and politicians directly, all of these people were sat in front of televisions, and forced their kids to join them. They were just as dopamine receptor fried. The internet was a happier place without them, and without the zoomers, and I think your post is mostly untrue, even though it refers to real events.
>>103234628>"Cartoon slop peaked when I was most emotionally vulnerable to it, it's only this modern crap that's bad."Bad news buddy.
>>103234628>enshittificationGood news - you need to go back
>>103234892the world peaked when i was 12
>>103234892Nigger you can't seriously say with a straight face that CN (the whole palimpsest being ttgo!+gumball with due, temporary and short lived, exceptions) is better than og cartoon network (a fuckload of great shows plus a section specifically dedicated to pilots/concepts).>>103234893>oh no, he used an apt definition!Fuck off homo.
>>103234082Why is he so happy?
>>103214294If I ever have kids, I hope I'll be able to be a good parent like that. Even if they don't end up liking technology as a hobby, I hope they'll want to learn a bit more than whatever future computing devices will require as bare minimum. I wish to be proud of them knowing things that seem obvious for tech people.Thanks for this hopeful and reasonable post, anon, you made me happier about this board.
People were capable of waiting a few days for you to send them a digital photo (taken with a digital camera). Nowadays they lack any tolerance for non instant gratification and get pissed off if you don't send it to them immediately via an instant messaging app.
>>103199598That never happened to me with Discord, but now that I'm back to IRC, it's happening again. Not having anything set to log the channel has a noticeable effect in the hours I can stay in front of the PC.
>>103196638Life moved slower in nearly every way, and that was a good thing. It's no wonder we're all anxious and aggressive now, the intensity dial has been turning up for over 2 decades with no sign of stopping.Boredom is a good thing, It's where ideas and creativity happen, and we've lost that now because the internet is ingrained in every aspect of life. It's too easy to find something to captivate your attention.I'm at least glad I got to experience life before the internet, I definitely feel bad for generations after me who will never get it.
I was born in 1998 and I started using 4chan in 2012My first smartphone was a Sony Xperia play in 2011, before that I used some shitty Samsung or Nokia phone. We used to call each others landline to arrange meet ups with friends. Before everyone and their mother got whatsapp we used to chat over Skype and MSN Messenger before that.More often than not you would just show up at the playground/parking lot/stroll around the neighborhood hoping there would be someone that you knew that you could hang out with. We used to play Minecraft over Hamachi with pirated clients. S4 League was also big. ROM sites and Emulators were also a big thing since everyone had a NDS, it was the hottest shit ever. As for porn, I was introduced to it by chance while I was looking for PS1 .iso files. There was that one gif with the anime angel girl that bounces her tits up and down (you know the one) and there was a landing page for some BDSM Hentai behind it. However, I also remember looking at the cover of porn magazines they had at gas stations to get my dick hard and ran home as fast as I could while my shit was still hard so I could jack my shota cock off. To be honest with you, things were not all that different.
>>103196638smartphones = portable computerslife without portable computers = sports and other activities
>>103202953I am 40 and I know this shit is absolutely true.But I can't even pity zoomers for missing out on these things. I can in fact not empathize with them at all. I have absolutely no understanding of their psyche. But I believe they are sentient.
>>103235191you can't do this in other countries and get away with it
>>103223461This is probbly what I'd do. My folks got me a nokia around age 12 and kept it topped up for about a month hoping I'd pay for it, but I just let it lapse because it cost a lot. After that I was never on a "family plan" or anything like that. Now I'm in my late 20's and most of my friends' phones are still paid for... it boggles my mind. I think just being exposed to the cost of gadgets the whole time kept me from seeing them as a given, like air to breath.>>103214294It's true, but that shit is utterly the norm. Friends and family I know with kids now- normal people, not weird rich fucks or people struggling in the trailer park- all do this. If the kids don't have their own phones or ipads, then there's at least a "kids' ipad" that they pretty much get to stim out on as much as they want. Keeps them out of the way. We're talking about 5 year olds here. At this point there have been many micro-scandals in which it was discovered that they were just watching horrific elsagate-type shit all day... wow, what a surprise. Each time there were vague attempts to roll it back, but after enough temper tantrums they went back to status quo pretty fast.
>>103235775I'm glad to hear that anon, it's a scary world sometimes, but I remain quite optimistic personally.>>103238874That sounds horrific - I suppose it depends on where you live too. Both my siblings have kids (ages 3-6) and they don't really watch any shows. The one exception was music videos for children's songs while brushing their teeth (the video being 3-5 mins long) and only with supervision. The older ones get to watch shows on our public kids TV channel now, but that's a total of 30 minutes twice a week. It's one science show and one arts and crafts show, both of which get them excited about nature and making stuff, they usually don't even want to watch on after the shows because they want to recreate some experiment or project themselves. Once they go to school they get their own phone, but it's an old dumb phone, you can call and that's it (not even SMS so far), just for emergencies. It can be done reasonably, but I can see how if you are in a country with a wildly different attitude things might change. In the end it's about character for the parents, you have to handle some annoying situations and some pain for your children's sake, giving them your phone at the restaurant so they sit still is tempting, but ultimately selfish and harms the kid.
