>>103205013
stop making these threads vincent, your cancerous site is shit and everyone using it should be put on a watch list

>>103205020
This, if you dont use Gmail you should be on a list!!!

>>103205042
this but unironically, google btfos the pedo

>>103205020
>everyone using it should be put on a watch list
Yeah bro watch this *unzips dick*

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Will stick with hosting my own servers, as will my friends. But you do you.

>>103205167
Best of luck

>>103205257
Been fine and dandy for a few decades. Godspeed.

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>>103205013
COVID caused this

>>103205167
Probably has the same delivery rate as cock.li. I tried for many years and was successful only because I was falling back to relays when mail wasn't delivered. So much fun when you deal with shadowdropped mail though. It's just not worth it when big Mail keeps you out and you still need to send unencrypted mails through a fucking relay. It's dog shit and everyone claiming it's not is coping fucking hard or doesn't care about delivery rate. There is a reason why almost all companies use shit like outlook and MS server to not land in spam and cause a fucking headache to IT.

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>>103205020
>>103205042
>>103205095
Keep in mind that this time, there really is a list,of all the email accounts made on cockli.
In the FBIs possession, as part of an investigation that has entered action phase(real) and it is meticulously combing through them as we speak and none of this is the memeing youve been conditioned to joke about for years.
Hope you werent doing anything untoward with your email

https://shitposter.world/notice/Ao6YnVf96HYvdJfZg0

>According to the (currently only) NS host:

>"We would like to inform you that the UPS located in our data center has malfunctioned. Unfortunately, the repair process will take longer than usual, as the necessary parts for resolving the issue are currently unavailable"

>The process has been started to quickly add more nameservers, unfortunately a number of hosting companies housing our DNS have disappeared recently due to more-suspicious-than-usual circumstances.

>We recently had to fly someone to another country and hire a private investigator to track down a disappeared host who refused to allow us any access to our disks while he had them plugged into his computers to try to crack into them.

>So, while it may just look like the site has been down all day, please spread the word that we're working on a bit more than just an NS record.

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Migrated some accounts to normie mail. Several services and accounts can't exist in normie space and have no where safe to migrate to. If cock.li goes down these will be going down with it but I really hope it pulls through.

>>103205735
I don't understand

>>103205013
>meanwhile SharkLasers still exists
Based.

>>103205817
Vincent is too retarded to point his glue records at the working DNS server.

>>103205600
Very few places would block me but Ive had the same IP's for a very long time and early on I actively chased down RBL's, RSL's. I'm sure if I tried this with new IP's it would be a easter egg hunt to find clean IP's. Some also block by ASN and those are harder. Wireless providers especially.

>>103205817
they let him out of the sleep deprivation chamber to post something to his followers because he was a good boy

>>103206070
>sleep deprivation chamber
How's that work

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what is event the point in using this shit.
you have to be schizo or doing something illegal right?

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>>103206236
a rotor

>>103206323
Devilish

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Guys is it over? Fuck i really dont wanna move i loved this service, fuck the feds.
Tuta or Proton?

>>103206516
>storing steam on cock.li
retarded?

In a scale from 1 to bioluminesce, how over is it?

>>103206520
Stored basically everything there, if you love advertising companies so much you shouldnt be here to begin with

>>103206520
Not at all

>>103206516
Anon, even if this turns out to be a total nothingburger, you had several days to move your most important accounts somewhere else.
And someone said the tor site was still working so maybe give that a try for now.

>>103206516
>>103206520
its on simplelogin retards, just point it somewhere else

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>>103205020
glow a bit more

>>103206516
You might still be able to access webmail if you add appropriate records to your hosts file.

>>103206561
I don't daily 4chan nor email I just found out and no its not working currently. I mean most things shouldnt require verification on old mail and i used plenty of simplelogin so it should be fine but still this just sucks so much, everyone bitches about phone verification rightfully but honestly email is in quite a bad state too, i hate the modern.
>>103206581
thats the only way Steam accepted it and yeah but still, all corpo providers scan your shit and privacy ones are heavily crippled

He has spoken, I just hope its not the feds, if it isn't it should be fine right?
https://shitposter.world/notice/Ao6YnVf96HYvdJfZg0
https://shitposter.world/notice/Ao5clDAx4KrKNNkKP2

This is what happened unironically
>sleep and jerk off to child porn for 5 years pretending it costs millions of dollars and takes five people to maintain a basic e-mail server and a RoundCube instance
>miss the fact that crypto ATMs are banned starting 2025 and Romania is tightening immigration rules, meaning your untaxed crypto income and fraudulent visa aren't gonna cut it anymore
>wake up at the eleventh hour and decide to milk your users dry with an exit scam before going back to the U.S.
fuck you vincent

So it's now completely off......?

>>103206848
wut, i know you're trolling, and here's a free (You), but are there people on this site who believe that he's been grifting money from people this whole time? they haven't begged or asked for money for a very long time at least not according to my admittedly flawed memory.
>(Donations: the bar's just here for looks)
i know i donated probably back in 2015-2016 but it was entirely at-will and based on the fact i'd been very enthusiastic and satisfied with the service and was pretty actively using it around that time socially to stay connected with other internet weirdos. plus the fact i got my account locked down/rate limited that one time after doing a big email shitpost, and i got a reply from vc and a resolution within just a couple of hours of messaging him.

whether he's grifting now, or being impersonated, or in a genuinely difficult situation that he isn't at liberty to describe, that is certainly a question a person could ask. however i just don't see a historical pattern of begging for money that might lead someone to thinking he's been scamming people up until now. the thought of your troll post being something that someone here genuinely believes is truly baffling

>>103205735
glowies buying time

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>>103205013
>40 posts
>no one mentioned the insurance files

>>103207495
they are memoryholed

>>103207502
not much to talk about unless the decryption keys are released. if anyone needs the magnets archive.org has it on the Nov 12 scrape of the front page. i think the trackers are down (due to the DNS issue?) at the moment. don't forget to grab the one hidden in the 1080p release of Cockcon

>>103207592
previous thread has the magnets as well. the tracker on aaathats3as.com is still working as far as i can see

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Read nigga.

man the internet is becoming more and more sterilized and boring. are there even any fun services left? doesn't have to be mail

>>103207778
>are there even any fun services left?
No

>>103207778
Pissmail

>>103207822
Too dumb

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>>103207717
this is so fucking fishy

use migadu
a full private imap pop smtp for just 12/year
full control over your mail and domain

>>103208551
Buy an ad.

So will it come back once the DNS thing is fixed?

>>103208679
it never left us. the real cock.li were the contacts we added to our address book along the way

man

>suspicious call to action regarding donations with different addresses
>different canaries
>dns goes down

how the fuck will i ever be able to sleep with a cockbox vps after that

>>103205735
Thanks for the update.

why the fuck havent we moved onto some https based email protocol instead
smtp et al is a piece of shit protocol that should have died out 3 decades ago

>>103209781
Nobody has been able to convince VCs that you can make a ton of cash off of e-mails, so there is no money to fund the necessary development to fix the e-mail plumbings.

>>103206543
Nigga you literally have a steam account

>>103209781
There's JMAP: https://jmap.io/

so what do you guys use as email clients? i've used both neomutt and emacs before but i'm thinking of moving into thunderbird.

>>103209890
In that anon's defense steam isn't an advertising company
Sure it's not free software, but the world isn't black and white and just because you can compromise in some things (e.g. to play games using a proprietary but non-advertising platform) doesn't mean that you now MUST compromise in everything everywhere

>>103209980
I use thunderbird because I have not been able to make anything else work across multiple IMAP accounts. I'd briefly tried both mutt and alpine and neither seemed to have proper support (I didn't spend too long trying, so maybe I missed something, but I remember seeing weird shit like global configuration options for "the IMAP account", singular, and other things which just convinced me it wasn't workable - I'd love to be proven wrong).

I have tried claws mail, and on paper it seems alright, but in practice it was just extremely flaky. It would lock up and become unusable during any long-running operation, it crashed or froze frequently. And when a server was inaccessible - which happened now and then with cockli, but also generally if my wifi was briefly disconnected for example - it would enter this insufferable loop of spending ~30 seconds attempting to connect to one account, then suddenly shoving a forced-focus popup in the middle of my screen in front of whatever else I was doing saying "couldn't connect" and forcing me to click "Ok", and then do the next account only to interrupt me 30 seconds later. Repeat for a dozen accounts. And while being completely unresponsive and not even closeable during this time. I've had to

kill -9

it multiple times just because I was busy doing something else and did not care whatsoever about it not being able to fetch email at that moment and did not want to spend the next 5-10 minutes having to fight against constant random dialogue popups.

tl;dr Thunderbird is big and bloated and all that yes, but it just works and I have not found a single other good client that also just works.

>>103210057
Pozilla products inevitably languish without proper competition.

https://duckduckgo.com/email/
I use this.

>>103210057
yep, tracks with what other people have been saying. thunderbird seems to be the only email client that solves problems people have had for decades while using email clients.

have you got any experience extending thunderbird? i would like a client that can download content over tor only on specific accounts (so i can use anonymous emails without having to switch to tails or wrap my entire traffic with tor) and thunderbird looks like something that would have an extension like that.

>>103205013
so the guy hasn't actually updated his canary today

DNS is still down, but the site is up

you can check with
curl --resolve cock.li:443:193.239.85.202 https://cock.li/index.asc.txt

last updated yesterday
it's over

>>103209898
are there any 2 mail servers that actually use this to talk to each other?

>>103210397
no lol

>>103209898
seems to be just another very good project that will never get adopted by anyone

>>103210345
Date updated: 2024-11-17
???

>>103210971
well it was the 15th when I posted it

>>103209898
That's interesting. This is the first I've ever heard of jmap.

>>103210834
Fastmail is the largest paid e-mail provider outside of Google, Microsoft, and Zoho.

>>103209980
clawsmail just works for me, i even had my gmail on it back when i used normie mail providers

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What's a non-pozzed email provider I can use?

>>103211257
pissmail.com

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>>103206516
Install an IMAP email client (Thunderbird on desktop, Gmail or K-9 mail on Android). Here are the settings you'll need screenshotted from Thunderbird. You'll be prompted for your password as well, obviously.

>37.120.193.123
>993

Do this soon and migrate ASAP until Vincent takes all the warnings down, shit is too hectic rn.

You're welcome for the spoon feeding.

>>103209781
Aren't there several "https" already? Http 1, http/2, http/3? Yeah no, keep your idea.

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>>103211264
I was already logged into thunderbird but nothing new coming through now either, just being logged in means all my existing mail is backed up locally right? I should delete from server next chance i get in case glowies steal his server? I mean they probably already have but still, not like i can change my accounts just yet even if i wanted to, 48hr wait on tuta.

>>103211400
Oh and even tho it doesnt seem to work rn appreciate the help anon, i hope nothing really bad actually happened and it is just some technical issue or vincent being a dumbass and nothing truly serious

>>103211400
Oh weird, I'm not getting that message? Seems to be fully functional for me as of an hour or 2 ago when I received a new email via Thunderbird. I did accept the certificate a few days ago when I backed up and migrated, though. Maybe that has something to do with it idk I'm a dumbass.

>just being logged in means all my existing mail is backed up locally right

I think so? I went ahead and exported to files just to be sure. Choose inbox/folder you want exported > Ctrl + A > Ctrl + S > Pick folder/directory

>I should delete from server next chance i get in case glowies steal his server?

If you have sketchy and/or compromising emails I would suggest so, yeah. My inbox didn't have anything critical in it except some newsletter emails for coomer products I wanted to sift through later lol

>>103211409
No sweat, yeah I dunno what all exactly is going down but it seems like everything will return to normal soon judging off the latest post from Vincent: https://shitposter.world/notice/Ao6YnVf96HYvdJfZg0

>>103211400
>>103211409
NS outage is a big deal for email, actually.
Other mail servers can't resolve cock.li servers by domain name, hence you won't get mail. You can send, though.

>just being logged in means all my existing mail is backed up locally right?
No, the cock.li server itself doesn't accept mail. Other mail servers will retry for a while and then just drop the mail as non-deliverable.

t. mail server administrator

Personally, I don't think cock.li will survive. There's clearly something fishy going on here.

Use mailfence
No number needed.

>>103211661
its free tier is webmail only.

>>103211755
you need more?

>>103211755
>its free tier is webmail only.
so what?
aren't we anti-phonefags?

>>103211765
>>103211806
i'm not going to keep ten browser tabs open for all my email accounts at all times, all with different slow and bloated webmail UIs if they're on separate services, all requiring me to regularly re-login, and check all of them manually all the time, when i could instead just use thunderbird and have it all in one place with reliable instant notifications.
i have no clue what phones have to do with this.

Do 185.10.68.10 and 2001:ac8:7d:1e::c0cc:2 have the correct authoritative records?
Why can't he just point his glue records at them?

>>103211629
You know what I meant, that our guy is not being tortured by the NSA currently. But then why do this if that's not happening? It either already has or soon will.
I'm logged into Thunderbird and I can click around, doesnt that mean my mail is on my machine since the servers are currently down?
>>103211765
Yes so I dont lose all my shit when they go under, right this moment is the perfect example.
I find it really wrong for these supposed privacy providers to charge or not even offer to actually own your data, I'd much rather they like do POP only for free users and no web storage and all the fancy features than being forced to pay up to be able to own your data in an open format instead of locked into their proprietary cloud shit.
>>103211806
I dont have email on phone at all, I prefer to store it on my PC HDD locally tho
>>103211824
Probably difficult to do while intelligence agencies are holding his cock

why do spammers love telling 4chan users that a third party honeypot that they spam for was good/worth using? 4chan is the only deanonymizing honeypot hosted on cloudflare I need

>>103211839
>I'm logged into Thunderbird and I can click around, doesnt that mean my mail is on my machine since the servers are currently down?
AFAIK, by default Thunderbird only downloads message headers (from, to, title, etc). Mail servers are not down, it's just other servers can't reach the cock.li (just like you, but they don't bother with a manual solution like to connect via ip).
You need to enable message body download, set a minimum refresh interval possible, and hope that NS will be fixed for a few hours before the blackout of mail servers.

Just update the DNS thing bro how hard can it be baka

>>103209898
This is interesting

>>103206525
it was over from the start

>100% of your email is sent from or to a gmail server
>surely hosting somewhere else will give me privacy from the glowniggers
do not use internet postcards for anything sensitive
ideally do not use them at all

>>103211861
well it's literally their fednigger jobs

>>103212354
>what is GPG

>>103212297
because the feds seized the servers

>>103212373
something that can be used with gmail, which is exactly what I do using my google email account

>>103212373
meme

>>103212404
that still gives them who, when and whom. which is the important part.

>>103212453
take your meds retard

>>103212468
kill yourself, fed

>servers are hosted in Romania, Serbia and Moldova

lmao. why would anyone use that website for anything serious?

>>103212470
stay mad schizo, everyone is enjoying their lives outside, while you're paranoid about sending plaintext on a public plaintext protocol

>>103212453
>hurr dey kill on metadata
how about you go outside lil bro you're not a terrorist

>>103212373
whats the best way to give my public key to my lawyer or doctor (and explain to them what gpg is and why it's important and convince them to use it)?

>>103212505
I never went to a doctor or a lawyer so can't help you with that one.

>>103212453
Spastic

>>103212518
it's more of a figure of speech, if you are communicating with anyone nerdy enough to set up PGP you may as well use any of the 1000 protocols that have been invented since email that are actually meant to be private

>>103212505
Best way to give it to them is to mail it to them.
Best way to educate them would be to sit with them and show them.

>>103212404
gmail knows your IP addresses

>>103212453
no IP address

>>103212534
If I can't trust a doctor or a lawyer to keep my data secure, I'd rather defend myself in court or do my heart replacement surgery at home by myself.

>>103212537
>your IP address
elaborate on which IP address range I own and if it's in the room with us right now

>>103212539
clinics and law firms just pay for Microsoft enterprise to send their emails because that's what everyone else does. And they won't know what you're talking about if you say the words "private key", "encrypted", etc. Their response will be that they set a password when they made their account so that means nobody else can see their data

>>103212553
I'm not interested in what useless retards do.

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>>103206516
>tuta
lel. friendly reminder.

>>103212633
sauce?

>>103212537
Everyone has an ip it came with your isp retard

>>103212539
>trust a doctor or a lawyer to keep my data secure
would you trust a mechanic to give you heart surgery? how are IT techs in court?

these threads should have been deleted, filtered, and trashed for advertising a long time ago

>>103212760
non sequitur

>>103212771
not at all

>>103212703
This is from Cameron Ortis auditions after he was arrested for corruption. He was the director general of the National Intelligence Coordination Center, a branch of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police that deals with online threats.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68228941

the audition:
https://archive.org/details/nov3am

tuta also spoken about in this one (first page):
https://archive.org/details/nov6pm

>>103212633
>>103212703
A literal honeypot. I wonder if proton is too.

>>103212788
non sequitur

>>103212402
You just login to the registrar's website and point the glue records at the server that never went down.

>>103212354
What does this have to do with being able to sign up without a phone number

>>103212888
With the assertion that you're not a pedophile, explain why phone number is such a big deal.

>>103212892
No, first explain why my phone is in any way relevant for an email account

>>103212769
cock.li advertised on 4chan. unlike you, cock.li paid the 4chan server costs. let that sink in.

>>103212907
Phone number is one of few things tying you to a real person and isn't trivial to spoof.
Now once again, with the assertion that you're not a pedophile and not a spammer making thousands of accounts, explain why phone number is such a big deal.

>>103212919
I may stop paying for the number and thus lose access to my email account.

>>103212934
My bad, I assumed you were white and not a thug that might be jailed for a decade any moment now.

>>103212919
Alright. Because I'm making a pseudonymous email account, not an IRL business or personal one. I have zero reason to link it to my real person.
I might use this account to talk to people I meet online. I might share it on 4chan. In short, all things that have ZERO to do with me being a real person, and are only related to my online, virtual activity.

Of course I understand that providers would still rather link me a) as a cheap and lazy method to prevent spam, and b) for more data collection for glowies. However, this is literally not my problem. Use some spam filter or something to block spammers.

I am not a pedophile or nazi or anything like that, in fact I don't even watch anime.

>>103212794
Everybody should be like Cameron Ortis. The world would be a better place.

>>103212950
I'm glad that you got locked out of being able to use email, schizo.

>>103212965
What

>>103212919
Because you're too poor for a phone. Or because you're under surveillance and need to leak important information.
Imagine Cameron Ortis is after you and you just NEED to leak info about his corruption somewhere, because you just NEED to, okay? Check and mate, fagtron.

>>103212919
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing_to_hide_argument

>>103212965
That's what it's all about, isn't it? Keep normalfags in and push out autists.

>>103212919
Somebody might be deaf and have no phone. You're not discriminating against the deaf, are you?

>>103212919
Because you lost your phone.

>>103212974
>poor
rope and a chair is cheap, buy it
>under surveillance
don't use email then, not my problem moron
>>103212979
People who have things to hide should learn to hide them better because things I want to hide aren't on my computer, go to a psychologist and ask them to let you do a real IQ test, post results here, retard.
>>103212982
Yeah, mentally ill should be locked up with supervision from their caretaker at all times.
>>103212992
If you knew a deaf person, you'd know how retarded you are.
>>103213001
Never happened to me.

>>103212919
Because you only have a landline that cannot receive SMS.

>>103213012
not my problem, retarded luddite, my grandma has landline phone but she also has a Nokia 3310 that can receive SMS, no idea how fucking braindamaged you must be, because she's 97 years old

>>103213011
Are you hiding your phone from thieves? I thought you had nothing to hide?

>>103213022
Well then it's not my problem if your WTC doesn't stand anymore as well, hypocrite. What goes around comes around. You leave ignorance for me, I leave ignorance in your path.

>>103213025
I live in a white country where if that one gypsy took my phone, I could just pop few bullets in his back and take my phone back.

>>103213035
stay brown, and mad

>>103212888
one is a specific privacy measure, the other is more general

>>103213039
So you're also hiding illegal weapons?
>>103213046
Me? Mad? Why would I be mad, you're the one without any dignity, lol.

>>103213011
>rope and a chair is cheap, buy it
i prefer to run over feds like you, but lynching is always on the table

>>103213054
what does you living in a shithole have to do with my white country where I can hold a weapon to defend myself?
>>103213059
>can afford a car
>can't afford a phone
so the car isn't yours, as expected of a brown

>>103213070
What are you babbling about, schizo? What anus are you talking about? We were talking about your illegal weapons, retard.

>>103213083
can you be specific about weapons that are illegal in my white country?

>>103209851
>Nobody has been able to convince VCs that you can make a ton of cash off of e-mails,
I FIGURED IT OUT
BLOCKCHAIN EMAILS

>>103213125
BTC has had messager functionality. The suit wearing corporate incel NPCs that got their hands on the latest versions probably crippled that functionality completely.

>>103213125
https://www.bing.com/search?q=blockchain+email

>>103205639
>glowies have to soft through thousands of COCKS
Ha.
>44aa4

>>103213144
they're all literal homos m8

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>can you be specific about weapons that are illegal in my white country?

>>103206258
totally organic sounding dude, the anime picture you don't recognize was a nice touch as well

>>103206516
idk about tuta, but proton is literally the feds retard

>>103206543
I love not being locked out of everything just because vincent is a fucking nigger.

>>103212363
Fire them, I don't to pay them anymore.

>>103212486
Every IT person is pulling their hair out every time they have to spend the weekend fixing the shit your retarded ass fucks with.
Incompetent fucktard.

>>103213234
low IQ problems, everything just works for me

>>103213243
it's still technically possible to access rhe mail server, good job for reading the thread, nice.
>thinks this is the first time glowfags fuck something up that ITfags have to fix or work around

>>103213259
keep seething over imaginary problems

>>103208461

would

>>103213234
clean it up, compjanny

>>103212919
>Phone number is one of few things tying you to a real person and isn't trivial to spoof.
It is trivial to buy a disposable phone number online nowadays thoughbeittheless

>>103213880
oh my bad, forgot that this is an option if you're a schizo, now, come again, where's the problem?

>1,400,000 users
If everyone donated 0.01 Monero we could save Vincent

>>103214030
how would giving the cia 14000 monero help anything

i made an email there because it was quirky back in 2016 and it's just become a time capsule of messages between me and my ex. i guess it's time to let go.

>>103214437
why are you such a fag?

>>103214437
If they had IMAP you could just move all your emails to your laptop and then back them up to wherever or copy/move them to a new server.

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>>103205042
Well if you do use gmail you're already on many lists without your consent amirite?

>>103205755
I only use cock.li for things like Soundcloud, Twitch and Discord (well in the past) accounts. Are people seriously using this shit for top secret information?
Huh?
That's not it's purpose.

In fact you shouldn't be using web2.0/3.0 emails like gmail for any of that shit too, because that's a breach of corporate confidentiality in most workplaces.

>forgot that I used cockmail for discord
>changing email for discord requires you to verify the old address
It's over

It'd better come back up even for a day so I can switch the email. Otherwise I'm at the mercy of discord figuring that it's a good time to verify my email because of "suspicious activity"

>>103214900
yeah the fact that you have to verify email to change email is retarded

>>103214930
so true, anyone who has your password should be able to change it without having access to your previous email

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>>103206258
To troll faggots like you with endless accounts.
But I can also do this with gmail, proton.mail, etc, etc too. So getting rid of cock.li won't end the torment of lolcows.

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>>103214900
This is why I regularly make new discord accounts. Because one will inevitably be banned by the bot machine for "suspicious activity".
This is also why I have like 10 gmails. Several facebooks. Several plebbits. Several Twitters.
To get around their bot faggotry just to talk to friends or just use it in general.


Otherwise I just don't use any of these things.
Single points of weakness are never good for these things because then they just stop working full stop for you.

This is not a new thing. People raised on the internet in the 90s and early 00s know damn well why they have multiple accounts on most things - simply because the admin of these things always breaks and having all your correspondence in one basket is bad if it gets leaked - which it DEFINITELY will at some point.

Corporations are ran by clueless gullible imbeciles that don't understand the nature of the services they are providing.
They don't understand that surveillance and multi-factor authentication could actually get themselves murdered indirectly. You have all sorts of dumb organisations and cults out there that would do this. It's not even necessarily your government. In fact, they generally have more oversight for this than private organisations.

Cock.li is convenient, I'll admit. But it's also never consistent so I generally use it for meager peripheral shit like Twitch browsing accounts.

>>103215188
I hosted my own mail server. Mail deliverability is hard to get, but you can receive emails VERY easily. I highly recommend it for some receive-only addresses since you basically only do the easy bits of email hosting and the upside is unlimited email addresses.

>>103209781
Well we have SMTPS, dude. Email servers have been prioritising SMTPS for years, but still hold port 25 open for that sweet unencrypted email.

It's basically what you wanted, since it's TLS wrapped SMTP just like HTTPS is TLS wrapped HTTP. Certs, pubkey crypto, etc etc it's the full works.

>>103212505
Give it to them in person. Or publish it somewhere. Or whatever. The entire point of public keys is it's perfectly fine to have them be intercepted, you just need to make sure you have the right public key. So you publish it and attach it to yourself as much as possible. Or send it via an insecure but not-intercepted-live channel.

>>103213341
shes married now thoughbeit

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>>103215288
Honestly, I'd rather not use an email, period, for anything.
Email is outdated tech.

Why are still stuck in the 90s? (Hell... 80s from memory.)
Why can't we invent new forms of communication anymore?
Nothing has changed for decades now. Hell even video calls were a thing in the 90s (albeit very rare).

Like this monopolisation situation only really is happening because competitors haven't made a good alternative that could render email obsolete completely. Then again, your government trying to make it mandatory as hard as they can doesn't help this. It's economic stagnation brought on by government and monopolies.

>>103215572
Email is great. Fire it off and forget it. Server down? No problem, sending MTA retries for {n} days. IMAPS is also great. Can move emails from server to server or just to client and back it up. Server dies? No problem, nothing lost. Glowies can't cover their tracks by memory holing anything.

>>103215572
People used to make protocols, now they make platforms.

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>2024
>not communicating telepathically through your neural interface

Why are we living in the 20th century still?
Then again, that would be essentially a "The Many" type hivemind situation.

>>103215604
I can make many protocols for every purpose, who will use them?

>>103215596
Bullshit, emails get lost all the time and are so fucking slow.
They've ALWAYS been garbage.

Somehow outlook and gmail are WORSE than cock.li for me sometimes. It's outrageous.
Regardless of whether you use their standard clients or a third party's.

Also memory holing is exactly what happens with emails... unintentionally. Just simple office correspondence occasionally goes "missing".
Sure there might be a backup somewhere - but that's irrelevant to the users if they don't understand how to access it. If anything that's a security threat (which it is).

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>>103215604
Nobody makes anything because banks are risk averse and only supply capital to people doing the pile of cocaine they are doing at the same dinner table.

Then again, they're all technically in the red to some degree so I guess technically it really isn't their cocaine, or anyone's.
Because you own nothing if it's paid for with debt.

You already own nothing.
You will never be happy, regardless of whether you owned it.
Because it owns you.
The debt machine owns you. The capital owns you.

>>103205013
NNNOOO NOT MY EMAIL THAT GETS RAIDED BY FEDS EVERY YEAR I CANT CHANGE THE EMAIL TO MY LOLI HENTAI FORUM ACCOUNT FUCK FUCK FUCKKKK

>>103215640
It is literally impossible to lose emails if you know how to back up data on your workstation or laptop. I personally have 20 copies on 20 devices with par2 partity data, 9 are off-site. There again, IMAPS for the win. All the webshit interfaces suck ass for this purpose.

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>>103215753
>not using a burner 10 minute mail for that shit

cock.li is probably not the best for that. Takes effort to set up an account.

>>103215788
Oh yeah forgot to add, if using a custom domain and the email provider makes the mistake of being busted, you just point your domain to another provider or your own self hosted stack, either way, nothing lost.

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>>103215788
>It is literally impossible to lose emails
And yet it ALWAYS happens.
It's almost like it's not USER FRIENDLY or something.

>can't access my bank or health insurance
REEE FIX IT FIX IT

>>103215816
>And yet it ALWAYS happens.
Speak for yourself. I have not lost any emails in 30 years. Sounds like a (You) problem.

>>103215795
BUT HOW WOULD THE FEDS GET MY DATA???

>>103215880
It probably is, I have no doubt.
That's my point.

And I'm not tech illiterate, there are people out there that don't even realise that outlook is a mail client or know what an email is, even though they use them. These things are used for identification nowadays. This is a serious problem, anon.

>>103215883
What?
I sure hope you're not just using one account like a retard right?

Not for feds, but because of shit like advertisement.

>>103216007
USING 2 ACCOUNTS WOULD MAKE THE FEDS THAT RUN KEK.IL LIVES HARDER WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT?

>>103216020
So he's not just going to point the glue records at the working server?
He could have fixed this the last time this happened 2 months ago.

Recently started using cock.li before all of this happened.
Does anyone think that I should actually migrate away or is this all just speculation? I currently use it for only like 4 accounts.

>>103216112
this is not the first time something like this happens, and not the last

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>>103216122
Cock.li going down is indeed normal. But I'm not sure it ever happened in such a suspicious way before.

>>103216112
What doesn't kill us makes our cock.li only stronger

If even 5% of people here self hosted email there could be cunnyt.it, crotchlessdiape.rs, shrimp.ie and so many others that nobody here would dare mention.

>>103216457
retarded niggers ITT cry about needing a phone number, imagine the horror of needing to rent a domain name...

>>103216495
Never carrying around your Government tracking+spying device and PAYING for it. Kill yourself. We managed fine for decades on the internet without the requirement of SIM cards.

>>103216546
>we
underage faggot

>>103216564
4chan user cannot comprehend that parents and couples exist

>>103216581
>that parents
yeah, like I said, underage faggot

>>103216495
I keep dozens of domains around just for email. Some for forums. Some for chans. Some for attracting and studying bots and security researchers. Gotta keep the registrars in business.

>>103214900
I'm curious what does discord do if you can't actually do that
Most services have SOME verification for when you lose access to the old email

>>103215030
>be normalfag that doesn't use a password manager and can forget passwords
>forget discord password
>discord offers you to reset it over email
>forget email password
>discord is now a ticking timebomb until you're locked out forever
Thanks discord great security model
At that point just don't offer password resets at all. This 100% prevents hackers from changing your password.
Back when I was buying hacked minecraft accounts they would always come with email logins, so you change both at once.

>>103216756
>forget email password
I am not mentally ill so I only have one email and will never forget its password

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>Using an obvious fed honeypot for mail.
I can't believe you faggots are this stupid

>>103215572
I'll tell you why. Because email is a universal standard. Everyone has an email, and email is inherently federated so every server can talk to every other (...minus the usual blackholing from non-good-goy domains, but the ecosystem eroding in recent decades is a separate problem).

If a website wants a contact point for someone creating a new account, can it ask for "a modern messager address"? No. It can only ask for a Signal, or a Whatsapp, or a Telegram, or a Discord, or a Matrix, etc., but all separately. There is no standard, there is no interoperability.
You could implement six different backends to handle all of these, but then along comes someone from eastern europe that only has Viber. Or one of those messagers changes their API ratelimits and suddenly your verification fails or your API costs skyrocket. Or users get locked out of their platform accounts for any number of reasons and you have to deal with the flood of support tickets because they used their discord to log in to your site but then they were on the same server that someone else said nigger on and got caught in a banwave.

Email is universal, email (usually) doesn't ban accounts except for egregious harm (like spamming, distributing malware, or literally going to jail IRL), anyone from any provider can use their email to sign up, and everyone has at least one email address.

And nobody will ever make something that renders email obsolete because of what this anon said basically >>103215604. It's not profitable to make an open standard, and even when someone does, it's not profitable to follow it. Email exists because it was created early enough that competing "platforms" weren't a thing yet, and it got global adoption by being the defacto universal standard. The ship has long since sailed to do anything like that again; it was a one-in-a-lifetime place and time.

>>103216836
If you're not mentally ill you probably also only have one discord, why would you ever forget its password?
Also old people exist, once you're 60 or 70 you might forget anything at random, you don't even need full on dementia you can just have light degradation where something like a complicated password just ends up lost forever

>>103216112
you'd be a fool to use Some Guy's Server for your primary email to do real business but at this point theres so many burner email sites for one-time signups or craigslist whoring that i dont think its worth migrating

>>103216894
no, I am not a tranny so I don't have discord at all.

>>103216975
Then you remembering your email password is irrelevant to the discussion on losing access to discord accounts

>>103216495
this but unironically. if your idea is to be "not tracked" by your email, but you self-host, now all your "dangerous" emails are going to a box you personally own (or lease) and it is trivially easy to identify exactly who owns the address because you also own the domain.

>>103216848
>competing "platforms" weren't a thing yet

https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2441.html
>Then we had the problem of getting all the e-mail systems to interoperate, since none of them was willing to interoperate with the others.
>I'm sure that Jon was so enthusiastic to work with me on it for two reasons:
>* Such interoperability among heterogeneous e-mail systems was our religion, with no tolerance for separatism;
>* We definitely were not supposed to do it.
Jon Postel cared about interoperability above all else.
This is why we used to have standards.

>>103216756
>I'm curious what does discord do if you can't actually do that
Nothing.

You can send a support ticket, but they will tell you that they can't do anything because they can't verify that you're you without the email. It doesn't even matter if you have a working phone number linked to your account.

You're one IP change and a verification via email away from getting locked out of your account if the email linked to your discord account is dead. And there's no way to fix that.

>>103217103
Nice

>>103216842
What do you use?

>>103216836
hyperthymesia is a mental illness.

>>103217141
ok jew

>>103216457
I genuinely don't know how I'd even start doing it

>>103212505
In my experience, drug dealers are the only people who willingly use PGP regularly.

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i want to register for derpymail but wtf do i put in the third box?

>>103217103
good. discord sucks

>>103217180
And people in finance. There are financial integrations that use it automatically and then finance officers begrudgingly use it manually.

>>103216024
>FEDS
I doubt the FEDS would find 1, let alone 2.
I'm more worried about working around social media admin bullshit.

>>103205639
i used it for a bathhouse mailing list and tranny chasing on craigslist

>>103216842
>they're all honeypots
>the internet is a honeypot

How else can they look at your naked children without their or your consent and without you knowing legally?
Because this happens regularly at the NSA.

>>103216457
>crotchlessdiape.rs
excuse me

Canary status?

>>103217103
>phone number on discord
>email on discord
iqlet, you were supposed to use it with tor browser, as that actually worked.

>>103217538
ded

>>103217366
>google recaptcha
FAIL and AIDS

>>103217408
There's nothing good in it sucking even more than it already does, unless it's enough to start pushing people away, which this isn't.

>>103217566
doesn't sound like a me issue. people are free to use garbo software if they want. we all control the buttons we press

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>>103216848
>Because email is a universal standard.
No, it's because your corporations won't move on because they are risk averse, especially in the post GFC era.
It was made universal for the sake of stabilising credit rating.
There is simply too much risk to innovate when your asset portfolios (and more importantly - their auditing and pricing) rely on a stable communications infrastructure to price them more positively.
It's nothing to do with how actually practical or ingenious the tech is. It's simply standardised protocol for the sake of asset valuation. This is why they establish these committees, right? It's definitely not to make the thing work better. It's just there to make it stop progressing or developing so the economy works around it. Simply put.

This is why asset pools are a terrible impediment to technological innovation in the modern age. When you have such blob companies, so much cartel-esque cooperation between them - you get these terribly un-innovative strategies in your economy. i.e. it stagnates.
Finance gurus have been pointing this out for centuries too and it's still happening because the establishment refuse to budge. They're even trying to force themselves to budge and it's just not working. It's fucked.

I thought we all knew this is part of the reason why things like that case that allowed shit like Linux to manifest happened (involving unix from memory). Financial corporations are an impediment to technological innovation IF they are risk averse and we live in one of the most averse climates in the post GFC/Covid world. They manifest these DREADFULLY stagnant formal corporate committees that monopolise standards and prevent any innovation.

>>103217570
What's a GFC?

>>103207411
>a big email shitpost
What is that? Spam?

>>103217596
he might mean the 08 "global" financial crisis

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>>103217601
Oh I see. Trump is (not was, is) a huge figure in that, by the way. He made most of his money in real estate, especially during that era. Somebody voted him into power again. Some people just love to suffer.

Anyways, sorry for bringing up Trump again.

>>103217028
Still is, stagnant risk averse standard making is why we keep shilling a lot of this crap and it's killing us all in my opinion. It made covid for example.
It's even stranger that most of the talk about this problem is literally from the standards makers themselves in memos and peripheral correspondence. Few people, even in politics (which is outrageous), seem to talk about this disaster.

Because now you have LEGAL LIABILITIES.
Which is also another tether making the technology stagnate and force itself into weird shapes that are merely there for standardised reasons. Financiers and service/product developers could face consequences if they do not abide by the standards commonly recognised by the industry.
It's like people ignore just how FUCKED that is. It seems an innocent statement stating the obvious, but in reality it is the boa that is constricting our technological development and is probably murdering people as we speak. People just don't see how that's possible.

why would you use cock.li over gmail? i mean, who still uses email to have private, illegal conversations?

>>103217638
>why would you use cock.li over gmail?
Does gmail have cock.li domain for your email?

>>103217567
You're lucky then to have never once come across some bullshit "join our retarded discord server to obtain this little bit of information you're looking for that we could've just written right here instead," or had to contact anyone through there.
Though in the first place, it being a you issue or not isn't relevant to what I said.

>>103217545
I want my shit to be actually usable.

>>103217628
if anything the problem is that nothing is standardized so instead of building products to use a standard, you have 9001 competing platforms none of which do more than the bare minimum to retain investors (not even users, just "venture capital" from people who have never used a computer)

>>103217661
i've had it happen exactly once, joined the discord, and found nothing useful. and it's a work thing so we already had Teams and I would have absolutely been That Guy just asking to use the Teams thing we already have

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>>103217628
Yeah it fucked everyone up.
EVERYONE.
Like ffs dude, do you seriously suggest his asset portfolios, etc aren't overlapping and criss crossing with every other fucking financial racket in NYC, Beijing, London, Moscow, Tel Aviv, etc?

Shit is FUCKED.
How many trillions was the US debt nowadays? The one nobody wants to deal with because they think it will magically go away instead enslaving humanity to mere corporate entities like it has?
The debts that criss cross the planet into everyone's pockets? Be it rich or poor?
Because you're a part of those asset pools at some point. Even if it's mere data now. May I introduce Big Data - pools of garbage that corporations merely exploit to reassess their mortgages and asset pools?

Yeah that's another can of worms.
Guess what emails do btw. They give that data. You need ultra transparency for their stock portfolios now.
And it's not going to even benefit them other than in a nominal sense. It's complete horse radish this debt system. A miserable failure now turning people into zoo animals.

>>103217638
Go to sleep, fedboi.

>>103217703
when i look at my mailbox, it's emails from the government, banks, amazon, aliexpress, postmail/packages, bills, 2fa. why would i bother with something like cock.li to receive these emails that have my name? you guys are just kids without a live.

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I'm getting sidetracked here but:
This is also related to why even monopolies can go bankrupt to itself.
An economy without positive rates of innovation is a psuedoeconomy that will devour itself as it fulfils it's demand while blotting out the "competitive innovation" more and more. Eventually the demand runs dry.

Enter - planned obsolescence. Making products obsolete without actually improving or innovating the product. Mere forced scarcity.
We're already there btw. This is what post-scarcity is.

That includes people's lives. You HAVE to die for the economy now. Why? For positive asset pool pricing and ratings. Old people don't make money, but they can supply easing of a liability if they die and the relatives get rid of the equity, etc. Plus young people have more opportunity to repay their debts and more time to do so. It's a positive thing for their assets if people die.

This is why you can't allow capitalism. It doesn't work and it just murders people to price assets.
But then again, how different is that to communism amirite?

>>103217570
I don't get what you're saying. If email isn't the only universally adopted standard, then what do you propose as an alternative?

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ruh roh raggy

>>103217638
I don't use it to have private conversations, I use it to have anonymous/pseudonymous ones
This is why I don't get all the PGP talk, it's completely orthogonal. I don't care who reads my emails, I care about who knows what IRL me sent. With cock.li, the mail servers are accessed over TLS, so my IRL ISP can't read what I sent, and vincent only knows my IP so he can't know who IRL me is (assuming he doesn't go to inordinate lengths to somehow get that information, such as taking me to court or something). Feds CAN get it with enough effort, but again, it would take a good amount of effort.

Whereas with gmail, and most other mainstream services in fact, they demand my phone number which is inextricably linked to IRL identity so google themselves can easily know who I am. Google is also huge in the tracking business, and while I try to minimise my exposure to ad trackers, I'm probably not 100% effective so whenever google does get a read on me they can immediately correlate me with my email. And finally google is part of PRISM so for the feds it's no longer a matter of obtaining an international court order valid in romania and going there to subpoena a small easter european hosting company - instead they can just look at their open data feed direct from google at any given time to get everything.

All of this has a huge impact on the linkability of the contents of my emails with my IRL identity. So it's more private (or anonymous, or pseudonymous, whatever you want to call it) without ever even considering encrypting the actual text of the temails. The world isn't black and white, and just because it's still POSSIBLE for the right jurisdiction or the right court order to read my shit, doesn't mean I should just give up and immediately hand it to them on a platter AND also hand it to a tech megacorp or two in the process.

You obviously shouldn't use email for anything illegal (even PGP is pretty mediocre). That doesn't mean anonymity/privacy are worthless.

I'd like to think all the glowies advertising other email services here are just trying to win some sort of honeypot competition

>>103217771
I'd have to ask a committee for what we can agree upon.

>this is codeword for "none of us have the balls and are too lazy to come up with an active pragmatic idea, so we'll dump it on a third party committee so we get less of the liability"
This is the problem with public corporate entities btw. Why did people think this was a solution?
We just need people with balls and brains. That's all. It's that simple.
Nobody does though. Often it is impossible thanks to corporate governance regimes. If you speak out and attack the regime, it will blowback most times because corporations cannot allow talk of things attacking it's current strategy - that cripples their confidence in their financial strategies, etc.
So we have a corporate governance cult problem. It's more hive like than anything. Over specialisation has partially created this. We need more flow between specialisations between workers and positions on the product pipeline. Most corporations are getting tighter and tighter with this, not looser. Tech for a long time was much more loose than it currently is. People floated between positions in the corporation and their roles. Nowadays if the firm is big, this is less the case. Finance industry positions are also being tighter and tighter and there is clearly no flow in communications between areas of firms. Often this is an ethical decision involving confidentiality and duties of care to clients and various other parties (like shell corps and stuff like that).

We need to break this culture of corporate entities down. I don't consider this a good corporate structure for innovation nowadays unless it is showing signs that it is still churning out good innovative products.
I don't see indicators that managers see things to this level - though tech industry did have some signs of this level of awareness of the issue. Have you seen Google and it's firm and the "relaxed" nature it had with it's employees until it became pure evil recently?

>>103217846
Retards won't get it but you're absolutely right

>>103217961
im a retard and i got it. i got a cock li mail for the exact same reasons -- unsavoury but not illegal stuff i dont want associated to my main accounts that are associated to me irl.

>>103217846
For me it's more "how do I not let my mom see this" and less feds ay.
Though I still think multiple accounts is a good camo (not complete privacy) strategy to a degree given the nature of data algorithms. Even if they link them, they're more than likely to reach poor conclusions with assessments of the data.

I know this because people often talk about "their algorithm" IRL around me nowadays and they also say they're surprisingly inconsistent with different browsers, different profiles, different addresses, different behaviour with cookies, scripts, etc, different OSes, different approaches to location data, etc.

Mines never consistent, ever.
Except with pron because I think pron latches onto trends on places like 4chan right?

>>103218091
>For me it's more "how do I not let my mom see this" and less feds ay.
this p much, using alternative mail hosts and stuff is more so you don't hand some normie friend your phone and all kinds of blacked furry porn come up

>>103218115
No for me it's more "I don't want ISIS videos turning up in her newsfeed or that might stimulate her Dementia".

>>103218176
or that, yeah.

>>103218176
You are a good son, anon.

>>103218262
Yeah.
>though that's implying I actually care about that
It's more I don't want her dumb pictures of Saigon holidays.
ISIS videos are slop.

>>103217665
Then why didn't you do what I said?

>>103217727
So you would sign up for useless shit with your government, banks, amazon, aliexpress, postmail/packages, bills, 2fa address? That's worst OPsec, ever.

>>103217846
This, fuck the disingenuous troll corporate dick sucker glowie cunts.
The only thing that should ever be required for any account is whatever is technically necessary to provide the service, so for an email account that would be the address of the account and the password, thats it, nothing more, its not rocket science, this was basic fucking shit 10+ years ago.
Obviously don't break the law (not talking about piracy or whatever but not even that if you live in a shithole), this is just another dirty tactic, don't even do shit you wouldn't want others to know, but its like that doesnt fucking matter because Im having all my normie mail sent to cockli as a simple FUCK YOU to modernity, because i just want a simple working fucking email that isnt being used to train AI and sold to every advertisers and require a phone number then randomly ban me when they feel like it, thats it, out of active cockli users.
>>103218667
Never stops being funny when normalfaggots come on here and brag

>>103218691
>Im having all my normie mail sent to cockli as a simple FUCK YOU to modernity, because i just want a simple working fucking email that isnt being used to train AI and sold to every advertisers and require a phone number then randomly ban me
Based

>>103217561
>t. robot

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>>103219130
I'm not a robot!!1111!!1!

>shitposter.world went down
vincentbros???

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>>103219709
No way, it's true. What le fuck!
Thanks for all you have done for the community, VC, if you can read this. Thank you! (in case this is the end)

is the canary just something that the owner updates once in a while to show that he is alive or what?

Also what can you use nowadays? Email is unsafe by design and most company's can do not sell your data or analytics like google but at the same time i don't feel comfortable with fed services. And who are they trying to catch? Who uses e-mail for illegal services? Retards?

>>103219749
Webmail on tor is still up right now as im writing this

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dont u die on me homie

>>103219756
yes. the idea is that either it gets updated with something good, he updates it but there's something bad (but at least there's news) and the worst case is no news at all meaning he has been unceremoniously murdered by a gypsy gangbanger

>>103217538
>Date updated: 2024-11-17
on the onion

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It's back up

>>103219817
lol. i think the previous one was literally end of 2023. whats the actual text?

I'm going to sleep now, someone make a new thread soon

>>103219909
goodnight anon

Godspeed and thanks for everything, Vincent. Please try not to die at the hands of the glowies.

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>>103219849
>Updates:
>Everything down for about 24 hours due to upstream datacenter outage affecting DNS. Service restored and more nameservers are in the works.
>Red -> Yellow Alert soon hopefully.
>My fellow retards: cock.li has not "shut down". You may need to read more than the first line.
>Anyone suggesting you migrate your account to Gmail, Yahoo, Proton, etc. should not have been using cock.li in the first place. Normalfags get off my fucking board.
>Feel free to migrate, I don't have any good suggestions though. Try that on Proton!
>PW changes and maybe registration will be back within a couple days.


>LIBERTY CANARY
>Date updated: 2024-11-17

>Cock.li is in 100% control of all of its hardware, and the service is still operating normally. The website (account registration+pw change) is currently offline.

>Cock.li will shut down before becoming complicit in crimes against its own userbase under duress of any government or organization.

>Cock.li is not under duress of any government or organization.

>Until further notice, THIS CANARY SHOULD BE UPDATED DAILY. Under no circumstances will we let this canary go 48 hours without changing the "Date updated" above unless a PGP-signed message changes the schedule.

>The schedule or PGP key used to sign this message may be changed only according to signed message from key 5CB49CDCEAC797FBF8BDC074FD71AD2771A5CC1B. Any message certifying the change of PGP key should be displayed alongside all messages signed with the new key for at least 7 days.

>>103220040
>THIS CANARY SHOULD BE UPDATED DAILY.
Yeah, it's unironically over

>>103220040
Well, that's good to hear that both things are looking fine, and the canary will be updated more regularly due to this crisis. However, that 48 hour update schedule is incredibly optimistic. If I were a weird romanian /g/ shitposter I would be hungover too often for that. Based cock.li operator.

>>103220123
He said every 2 days on that red canary at first.

where's the next thread?

>>103220643
oh time to have more conversation then. why do you use email for, anon? i use it to talk to people, mainly schizo-adjacent people..

>Tor Addresses

cock.li: http://rurcblzhmdk22kttfkel2zduhyu3r6to7knyc7wiorzrx5gw4c3lftad.onion

mail.cock.li: http://xdkriz6cn2avvcr2vks5lvvtmfojz2ohjzj4fhyuka55mvljeso2ztqd.onion/

Beautiful, their .li domain just went NX. That's going to pose a lot of problems. Guess I'll go get Tor to try to fuckin' read my email...

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AHHHHH HELP WHAT EMAIL PROVIDER DO I USE NOW?

>>103221554
Cock.li. They seem to expect it to be back online in 24 hours or less.

>>103221554
Same both proton and tuta free is severely crippled

>>103221569
even then i think vince needs to release a postmortem to properly explain what the fuck happened

otherwise i'll be suspicious of The Cock being honeyed from now on

>>103212796
they are, but they hardly ever use it, they reserve their abilities on theoretically mostly solid privacy services for high profile targets

Next one as we hit the bump limit
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>>103222137
He turned off one of the DNS servers so he could beg for donations.
The other one works fine.

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>>103209995
What's the actual logic behind using something like cock.li for shit like Steam? Doesn't matter if the email provider is a company like Google, you're giving your payment details and personal info to a company to Valve. Might as well use a gmail account for this shit. Do you think Google suddenly knows all your info just because you buy games from Valve all of a sudden? Even then Valve has all your info too. You've lost at this point. I can't imagine being this schizo yet buying games from a platform like Valve and still thinking you're in the clear.

>>103223634
I don't use my Steam on my cock.li, but I just get a free email and I don't have to worry about giving my phone number to them or worry about them freely giving my shit away. All information requests get posted, which is more than I can say about, say, Google.

>>103221554
just host your own

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>>103211247
>Google
buy an ad.

>>103205042
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>103223634
>google
buy an ad

>>103223634
Because Valve is a private corporation and Gabe is more interested in printing infinite money through steam and experimenting with VR to make sex with Pinkie Pie a reality, than in reading my emails.
Meanwhile Google is a public company that is legally obliged to make as much money as it physically can regardless of impact on users, and its literal primary business model and therefore way of making money is through harvesting and using user data.

Google is also known to be connected to PRISM; is Valve? They might be of course but I don't remember so. "Might be" is still weaker than "is 100% confirmed to be".

The world isn't black and white, Valve provides a service that I actually want to make use of and requires reasonable info for that (yes they do need my payment info to accept payment for games). Google provides a service that others can also provide and requires unreasonable info for it (my phone number is completely irrelevant to sending and receiving email).

>>103223203
Dead. Did the jannies decide cockli threads are banned now, or what?

>>103224200
jannys are probably butthurt russophobes as i posted an ontopic rt article

>>103217436
>use it manually
lel, mutt mail client does it automatically, I still don't know how to do it manually, will never need to

>>103212919
Trump got rid of Obamaphones.
Requiring a phone number is literally racist and discrimination against people of color.

>>103223634
Steam@cock.li anon here, because I do not consent to google or microsoft reading my steam mails, you know all the shit i play, all the stuff i post on their forum that would be a violation on google, and most importantly my payment info.
Valve is the only corpo that actually provides a good service, meanwhile Google is the single worst most anti-consumer corpo on the planet right next to facebook whos services have been clones 500 times each better than the original.
Also I like most things coming to one mailbox, aliases work.
>>103224195
Not me but great reply.
>>103224200
They're part of the phone verification botnet, pushing botnet email verify system on here.

>>103224946
>They're part of the phone verification botnet, pushing botnet email verify system on here.
Yeah good point lmao. You literally cannot use cockli on 4chan. What a clown world

>>103218667
yes because i have a life. a dude who aren't using those are an incel jobless loner. prove me wrong.