Do you also never let go of the things you make no matter how trash they are? I have tens of GB of garbage but I always try to salvage it by passing thru a bazillion plugins instead of just deleting them

I guess that's how it must feel having a disabled kid

>>103206584
Kek

https://vocaroo.com/1bW03Z6MxXuJ
What a waste of time, god I love it

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>have minilogue and drumlogue
>start poking around in the SDK
>examples are extremely useful
>already have a 2OP FM synth going
I'm going to release some 'logue oscillators soon. My FM one is OK but it's just a toy. I'm looking to make a simple wave sequencer for it, think mini-Fizmo.

>>103208801
God bless, anon.
Has anyone made something that lets you chop drum breaks nicely on the drumlogue? That box was so close to something I wanted, but then KORG dropped the ball with the envelopes on the user samples.

>>103208954
It's not a sampler. It's a sample based drum machine. Once you realize this it's awesome.

SDK makes it... a whole different thing compared to other instruments in the same class.

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>>103176194
>>103176194
Not a single soul even glanced at this, but it's fine. kek

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>>103206584
>>103206584
I will trash everything the moment I realize it's not that good, and I'll save the scraps anything with potential.

https://vocaroo.com/13GpScp5sLaw
https://vocaroo.com/122Hr0Y3bGzN

I fucking hate music. What genre should I produce?

>>103211589
Whatever is popular

>>103211589
a genre that kills other genres, like brostep, drift phonk, ambient breakcore, etc

>>103206569
>nexus 2 in picrel
based, love that little guy

>>103211907
it's nexus 5 with the retro skin

>>103211936
that explains the resolution being higher than I remembered

>>103210158
>https://vocaroo.com/13GpScp5sLaw
you mind giving up the multi tracks for this one?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAIaAeE9wlM

>>103212284
Why are you so worried about choosing the right DAW? You're never going to actually use one.

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>>103212306
i'm doing my research so that i'll be able to get shit done instead of being like ipad generation zoomers who put in the bare minimum effort like they'll download fruity loops and fuck around with that while not getting anywhere for 10+ years, anons lack even a basic clue about things like analog distortion

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=CFJtRiKgLhE
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleeding_Love

another example of a song with almost sickening amounts of distortion and it was a huge hit with billions of streams. but anons can hardly even tell if the distortion is there or not or even tell if it's a good song or not.

>>103212368
Yes because watching YouTube videos about the marginally better way to get shit done is more conducive to getting shit done than to actually starting to work.

Please stop talking about DAWs! I was all ready to pick up Ableton Live this coming Black Friday but now I'm tempted by Reaper again.
I love Live's racks and devices and ability to save and easily use bits and pieces from different Live sets just by dragging and dropping. The piano roll behavior kind of rubs me the wrong way, but I imagine that I could get used to it after using it a lot.
Reaper seems great in how light weight it is and how you can customize shortcuts and mouse modifiers/etc to behave how you want it to. The notation view is also beneficial to me.
>just get both
It's not about the money, so that is a possibility, but the issue is having to spend time to get used to them. It would be better just to pick one and stick with it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO0rrbcvHHU

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Album organizer here.
Got this email yesterday on the account I upload videos from.
Apparently until I upload an ID or a video of myself (which I absolutely don't intend to do) most of the links in the descriptions are fucked now and there's a limit on the number of videos I can upload in a day, so we're gonna have to take an additional day or two into account when setting the release/party date, in case it won't let me upload all of them in the same day.
I might go and fix them somehow in the future, but I don't have time now so they'll stay fucked for the time being.

lmms chads, where we at?

i like only making nice melodies and beats for those. filling up the rest of the song seems pointless to me. the typical song structure sucks if doing instrumental.

even listeners don't care about the filler. if you go to youtube and search for any edm song and check the seekbar, the main melody one is the one where people are repeating the song most.

>>103213866
Aw, that's unfortunate.
What even did you do to break community guidelines?

>>103214549
Nothing that I know of. The channel has no community guidelines strikes and nothing relevant to this has happened in quite some time.
Maybe they changed dome rule and now they're counting the few copyright violations (which just give any monetization to the copyright holder, though the videos aren't monetized) we got throughout the years, or that one hate speech violation in the third album for which I had to take a short course on who I'm allowed to offend and who's "protected", with a test at the end and everything lol.
Or maybe it's just because it's not verified with a document or video.
They say that if I behave for about 2 months it should be enough to reinstate the advanced features, so we'll see then.

Dug up some inspiration for the album.

Early/Mid 90s trance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sCqR-rzjX8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfBRkxL2gIk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qtTpV1F4_U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4Q5DlHPYDE

Late 90s trance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9ZBUtANFNQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1j_aOZk-v4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZTBrrS9GNA
(This is from 2000 but whatever) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpkmDnncIB0

>>103215546
Oops the Cybordelics track should be in early 90s

>>103215546
One more because the late 90s section is uneven now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDLjyB4LHGI

>>103211589
ambient harsh noise

dreamt about some music that was being broadcast from jupiter. Made a very rough recording on my phone and went back to sleep. Then fed it into Suno and got a nice tune
https://suno.com/song/78e22171-834b-418e-a2de-ddf17c4b3cba

>>103214447
>even listeners don't care about the filler. if you go to youtube and search for any edm song and check the seekbar, the main melody one is the one where people are repeating the song most.
yeah it has been a shitshow to have to rely on these degenerate high school dropouts to serve us whatever slop they cooked up in minutes in their DAW and for us listeners to have to sift through it and find the moderately entertaining parts. even world-renowned artists make a lot of songs that are duds, just shockingly bad taste and cringe with orders of magnitude less commercial success than their hits.

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I've been wondering for a while now why there isn't yet a decent web-based online piano roll editor out there (along with audio playlist/sample editors) that's tailored for mobile users. BeepBox is nice and all, but it has its own limitations.
>Why not just use FL Studio Mobile?
I'd rather not pay for apps or install anything. I want it to be instantly accessible and open-source, to export melodies in different formats (e.g. for bytebeat (JSON), MIDI, music sheets, plain text), to play your own synths (audio signal node processors, optionally WASM for performance), maybe even to edit MOD tracker files.
>Can't you just try to write your own?
I don't even know where to start exactly, and there aren't any guides. I get confused reading other people's source codes, how notes are supposed to be rendered, played and handled, how to deal with events, or what data structure I should use. I've never written a proper piano roll editor before, only something that vaguely resembled it that was specifically designed for 4-channel voice (but my decade(s)-old computer died so I lost those files).
inb4 "fuck off phoneposter" or something

>>103216217
Also this phone has no screen recorder built into it so I can't record anything I've made, unless I use a third-party app for that, or that I would have to export the entire song as a large MIDI file.

if your ideas are garbage, try playing them backwards
https://suno.com/song/23fe97be-d9b3-4de3-9be8-679e970b79ec

>>103214200
LMMS has a bug where automating start/end points for the sampler can crash the entire program.

>>103206569
If you want to cop the feel of a song, what parts do you take from it to not make it just a shitty copy?

>>103217014
just don't be bad? if you have to ask you probably can't without changing it so much it doesn't even sound like you're referencing something originally

>>103214447
>if you go to youtube and search for any edm song and check the seekbar, the main melody one is the one where people are repeating the song most
this happens with any kind of music
>purposefully make the middle part of the music be the most interesting, catchy, loud, active
>acts surprised when everyone wants to repeat that part

>>103215142
>that one hate speech violation in the third album for which I had to take a short course on who I'm allowed to offend and who's "protected", with a test at the end
Oh Jesus.
Thank you for enduring that bullshit.

>>103213866
maybe the hitler speeches and glow niggers song?

does anyone here make real music with instruments or is it all fake music

>>103218671
I do acoustic piano + electric bass + acoustic drums, but I don't post that here.
Electronic music isn't fake :( I want to make stuff that sounds like late 90s/00s shmup music too, but I'm afraid that I don't have enough time to learn Ableton and synthesis plus practice piano and drums (ain't nobody needs to practice bass).

>>103218671
yes but with a drum vst because that shit is impossible to record myself

someone talk me out of taking the hardware pill. my wishlist has grown into the dozens. I need a sharp reminder that my laptop is all I need. talk me out of it.

>>103219028
post the music you make already

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>>103219028
What kind of music do you want to make?
If possible, I think it would be cool to get one thing and master it.

>>103219244
that machine is gayer than gay sex

>>103218671
I play a couple instruments in a couple bands. Nothing compares to performing. I mean, I'm nowhere near a front man, and I'm not good enough an instrumentalist to be full of myself. The flow just doesn't compare to prodoocing.

>>103206569
Why do software dials exist? Look at all rhat wasted space. You can literally click on shit and replace anything there with sliders or spin controls.

How do you mention an archived thread

>>103219448
You do it before it's archived and email it to yourself so you always have it ready to go.

>>103219366
What the fuck is a spin control?
Dials take up less space than sliders and you can look at them and instantly see their approximate value relative to their entire range, similar to an analog clock.
You're fucking 'tarded. Get the ruck out.

>>103219057
no thank you

>>103219244
I'm leaning toward IDM or experimental electronic stuff I guess. nothing you couldn't theoretically do in Ableton or whatever but the consoomer in me cannot stop fixating on knobs and sliders and keys and buttons and cables and shit like that. it just looks like so much fun but hardware synths are totally unnecessary in 2024 and it's hard to remind myself of that.

>>103219777
if you dont want to post what you made you are not good enough, dont get hardware you will be disappointed, gear wont help you get better
keep making stuff in your laptop until you like what you make

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>>103219562
You have a mouse and keyboard chud. Just click and stype a number.

Dials are retarded and no precise. Picrel is a spin control.

>>103220089
>Just click and stype a number.
That would be the first instance in your example if you're taking thing literally like that. I mean, you can click and type with most dial interfaces as well. Your spin shit doesn't show the value within context of its range such that it ends up showing less information and is therefore inferior to dials.

>>103220089
never design any kind of interface

>>103212421
holy shit that snare is hilarious

>>103220045
the reasons I don't want to post what I've made have nothing to do with my skill level. it's more about the presentation of anonymity. I don't want to post my music for the same reason I don't want to post my face; it's not because I'm not pretty enough.

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>>103215546
Classic trance is so based, I hope Goa will be a theme in the future (I'm still trying to replicate that 303 kind of lead without much success: https://youtu.be/8WY3qe1orbI?si=k520IolAIhX0zuwj&start=192 )

>>103219777
get midi controllers with endless rotary encoders

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>>103220620
>>103220309
kys chuds

>>103217952
Lmao anything for /dmp/

>>103218306
All still there as far as I can tell.

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>>103221551
>let's cover the red space with a slider instead of covering the blue space with a dial b-b-b-because le chuds

would this count as 90s techno? I have a tape emulator on my master for analog warmth and all most of presets have "trance" in the name.
https://vocaroo.com/14O5e53Fdej6

>>103222218
>would this count as 90s techno?
>all most of presets have "trance" in the name.
Are you trying to do a trance track or techno? To me, It sounds more trance-ish, so I'll assume you meant to type trance. If not, ignore the rest:
I like it, has good layering and mostly the right kind of trance sounds (but maybe a bit too modern for 90s). Could probably use a bit more melody though. Also, I think the bpm should be slightly higher to be trance, a little above 130. And, to me it sounds like the structure is a little off. Idk how close everyone is trying to get to the typical trance structure, but this starts off a bit too gradually, drums should come in a earlier and the first section should be longer with more layering of different melodic sounds. The middle section could be even more stripped down. The buildup from that is good through, and I like the last section a lot. Right now, it sounds somewhere between progressive house and trance.
Full disclosure, I'm not an expert or producer, I just listen to a lot of trance.

Hi, if I have a VST that runs at 48000hz but is upsampled to 96000hz by my DAW will the latency be of 48000hz or 96000hz? assuming that sample rate is the same in both cases, of course.

>>103215142
>>103213866
>All of these changes across websites right after the election

Really makes you think

Title suggestion:
>S066L
Context: https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/102775803/#102822542

>>103219028
I started as a hardware freak and ended up fulltime software, software is just so much more convenient.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EgFYepqBFk
>that kick

>>103222953
hard to measure latency accurately just by sampling frequency. also depends on the audio driver and operating system.

>>103222218
Not really, it's more trance.
This is 90s techno
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qnXMQc8kAk

>Theme 90s trance
does this include all the trance subgenres? if I do GOA/Psytrance will it be accepted?

>>103223686
i assume so.

>>103223686
Yes and yes.
Ideally it should be something that wouldn't sound out of place in a compilation from the 90s, but I'm pretty much not going to enforce that.

nothing too exciting, but having a quick no-nonsense gate is nice.

the ssl dynamics portion of soon to be console x
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98kPuYrVkOs

Sirs, kindly take cognizance, I have a pro tip for you. Start the free program "Everything", write aax in the search box, chances are you will have a lot of superfluous aax plugins installed in windows that you can safely delete to save some space. I guess some plugins just install the aax version of their plugins without bothering to ask.

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kek DAFuck is this website?
https://teenage.engineering/products/op-xy

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>>103225849
this may be the only based thing they've done

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Some trancespiration for the album, it's not 90s, but it's considered one of the better 'retro' tracks of the past few years
https://youtu.be/S9M_zEmc7b0

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Some closure, finally, I fuckin knew it
Skrillex essentially just admitted to being ghost-produced on Twitter........

>>103229406
kek

>>103225849
Extremely German marketing, the whole video and imagery is a mix between Kraftwerk/early german techno aesthetic and modern Berlin fashion.
The Berlin techno scene is the main target audience for this and tons of dweebs from that shithole will not eat for 2 months because they bought this.

>>103229814
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSL1nXza7pM

>>103225849
>eye-grabbing button icons
>le "experimental" aesthetic
>same old shit regurgitated as new
>expensive toy with restrictions
Pure consoomerism, not even impressive.

>>103229881
Fuck man I KNEW I have seen this before and just thought my mind is making shit up.
Thank you.

>>103229406
I've been trying to tell anons this for ages. A producer rarely ever does all the work by themselves, music is almost entirely a collaborative medium. Anyone still trying to do this all solo should find musicians/producers/songwriters/whatever in their area to jam with. You will improve far faster than if you stick with production solo, and you might even make some connections to the industry along the way.
People were saying shit like
>but what about Skrillex or DeadMau5, they do it all themselves!
Not realizing that even they collaborated often, on top of getting a lot of practice in DJ work. Don't try to be a one-man-army, you'll never get anything done.

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lmao, fuck FL Studio

>>103230117
the success rate is extremely low for bands too these days. at most you'd need a vocalist to collab with once you have modern production and songwriting capabilities.

>>103230684
To be honest, those cracks probably contained RATs and other types of malware.

>>103230684
imageline is notorious for doing this
at this point any retard that shares their pirated shit on an account related to their business kinda deserves it
I saw a guy with an yt channel get his channel spammed with strikes because his vids showed that he was using a cracked version on that tiny screen inside FL, then he begged them to remove the strikes because he bought FL, but they required him to delete all the vids on his channel so the algorithm of his channel would never be as good as it was

>>103230782
This. You can diff a pirated copy vs a real copy. If it has anything outside of 100 or so bytes, or has any weird http requests to a weird domain, it's bad.

>>103230794
This makes me wonder if it would be worth it to someone who isn't me to create a "Certificate Authority" level of vetting these things. Probably some already out there, no?

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Someone should just write an online DAW at this point without using any bloated JavaScript frameworks/libraries so you wouldn't even need to bother installing anything. Audiotool for one already exists (and has for years, started with Flash). Although, I'm tired of websites that require registration, forces you to consent to all cookies, or/and are ad-ridden. There are some silly CORS policies (when loading files) if you want it to be used offline however.

>>103230117
Nobody cares that you can’t even handle making a song yourself dude you don’t have to convince us that it’s okay lmao

>>103230782
>>103230794
so specifically for reaper, maybe you should use the free trial which doesn't enforce the 60 day time limit (similar to winrar's licensing scheme) since the cracked reaper has virus alerts out the ass
https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/comments/1b4zpyb/is_audioz_megathread_list_safe_many_alerts_from/

>>103230896
>check out the online DAWs
>none have a MIDI event list editor
these are for kids

>>103231016
Signal has an event list editor, but it's not a fully-fledged DAW.

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>hits vape

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=3mWbRB3Y4R8
for example this sounds very rough by modern standards and they were still wildly successful. people like deadmau5 and avicii found success with relative ease, like stealing candy from a baby (they were competing against literal teens/pre-teens and drug addicts who didn't know what they were doing in the EDM scene back in those days). now with widespread access to technology and information it's not impossible to get similar production quality as the average low tier pop artist like rebecca black or similar.

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>>103229987
no problem for men of taste

>>103219028
Skip the dumb groovebox shit and go straight to modular.

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>>103222595
Yeah i meant trance lol. Thanks for the input.
The more I work on it the less 90's I make it. I don't listen to lot of trance but I'm tryin to stick the the theme and listen to examples see what I can come up with.

>>103232100
Sure, you're most of the way there.
Just keep it simple. Trance music is mostly layers of basic melodic elements (usually arpeggio based), and the tracks are typically split into three sections:
1 the opening where the elements are introduced, often on their own, but gradually layered up to build tension;
2 then the breakdown with maybe two or three of the elements but no or very little drums;
3 then a buildup to the big drop where all of the elements come together at once.
The key with that structure is creating a feeling of buildup and then 'release' (either into a breakdown or into a drop).
(Though if you're making a "radio edit", that structure can get shrunk quite a bit.)
These are some good examples of the flow
https://youtu.be/_6KFq8s2fgg
https://youtu.be/Setnx9fFu-A (though this isn't 90s, and it also has two breakdowns)

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Updated chudbox just dropped

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ5XN_mJE8Y
Based Benn dunking on Russian bots

>>103230684
based, catposters deserve it

>>103230794
You should also open an EXE in a ZIP file explorer to view its contents because there could be a malicious payload sitting next to the installer. Always run cracked programs in a virtual sandbox (or never run them at all).
>>103234179
The fact he was a Friday Night Funkin' fan was worse IMO.

>>103234953
>You should also open an EXE in a ZIP file explorer to view its contents
they could binary patch the executable, anything you do otherwise is security theater

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Behringer is about to make everyone realize that buchla is gay once you can afford it

>>103235154
i want this and volca. never going to buy it because it's gay.

>>103235154
i thought buchla was gay well before i could afford it. the most uesless beeps and boops machines

>>103231314
This shit is awful

121 million views...wtf

>>103235684
third worlder and zoomer views aren't worth anything

how shit are my mixing skills outta 10?
https://files.catbox.moe/zgjydr.wav

What if there was a tiny version of Eurorack where the modules were like 1/4 the size?

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>>103236372
There are several mini modular systems out there

The first one I remember is AE modular but there others

>>103236885
cute

>>103236372
I love arthritis

>>103236885
modular for my loli wife

I reinstalled Omnisphere after years of not having used it. Back then the only thing I disliked was how slow it was but everything's fast now.

>>103235154
Which one will come out first: this or the bcr32?
>implying any of those ever make it out of Behringer vaporware territory

>>103237046
are any of the behringer knockoffs any good? in every comparison i've heard, they always sounds sterile and off. the 303 might've been the only one that sounded indistinguishable

>>103237073
Every single one is excellent and they are usually improved over the original. But lots of people seethe about 'em - when they released their 303 clone it tanked the 303 market, they went from $10k+ to a couple grand and don't sell now.

>>103237105
>Every single one is excellent and they are usually improved over the original.
fuck off, shill

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>>103235994
Pretty good but im listening on cheap Tin T3s so take that as you may.
All i can say is you got a bit too much highs and that clap is too loud.
https://files.catbox.moe/ctnxsm.mp3

>>103237105
What's your take on >>103237046

uli posting in this thread right now

>>103237073
my feeling with the clones is that they are a little janky, but have more qol features than the originals most of the time so it's an even tradeoff

>>103235684
>>103235711
>They are recognized for bringing the Progressive house genre into the mainstream around 2009-2010, together with their compatriot Avicii, standardizing a sound that until recently was relegated to the underground EDM. The trio is also best known for their single, "Don't You Worry Child".[1]
they were one of the biggest acts period, you would hear their music played in random places irl. "one (your name)" was used by zyzz iirc. avicii didn't have this abrasive style though, his production was more competent although i didn't like most of his melodies. galantis is a notable imitator of this abrasive dated sound, they had a huge hit in 2015 with "Runaway (U & I)", then they released a bunch of tranny tier slop in 2017 with the album "Aviary", then in 2024 was a collab between Galantis, David Guetta, & 5 Seconds of Summer with the song "Lighter" which sounds like complete and utter garbage to me.

>>103237136
Well it took like 3 years for his Wave clone to hit production, so it could be a while. Who knows.

>>103237141
>t. moog "collector"

>>103230896
reaper can already do it where you can do network offloading for processing to be on some vps. couple it with jacktrip on linux and you get your cloud daw where your monitor just interface

i recorded vocals for an album over a bunch of different sessions and my voice/levels aren't very similar. i've been manually adjusting gain on each clip, is that my best option? or should i just compress the channels? its harsh black metal vocals so i don't care if i lose some dynamics.

>>103237346
you can use something like izotope RX for consistent levels without having to compress

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>>103237482
look at this guy, he cares about things like dynamic range or the noise floor or quality sound

>>103237482
it's a shitpost

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>>103237032
do you care to render some preset demos, all i've found on youtube for pigments and omnisphere is sounding rough compared to serum and UVI falcon, tate mcrae - greedy uses a preset and it boggles my mind that more "producers" don't take an issue with the quality, most of her other songs are barely listenable, although in hiphop they might like a deliberate lo-fi aesthetic since it's based on sampling old records a lot of the time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyBbBg-BqLQ

>>103237541
>do you care to render some preset demos
What kind of presets and what do you want me to play? Single notes or chords?

>>103237562
ignore the headphone schizo troll

he doesn't make music

>>103237562
mainly some single note synth leads and basses. anything else that sounds cool like arps, plucks, brass, strings, pads are fine

for example VPS avenger sounds like shit to me, the presets are all colored by a dated digital bedroom produced EDM type of sound

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9CDyvnTRPE
6:17

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>>103237516
it's not, i just didn't do a very good job recording

>>103237592
A.G. Cook (the main producer for charli xcx) uses serum
>ULTRA-CLEAN OSCILLATORS
>Playback of wavetables requires digital resampling to play different frequencies. Without considerable care and a whole lot of number crunching, this process will create audible artifacts. Artifacts mean that you are (perhaps unknowingly) crowding your mix with unwanted tones / frequencies. Many popular wavetable synthesizers are astonishingly bad at suppressing artifacts - even on a high-quality setting some create artifacts as high as -36 dB to -60 dB (level difference between fundamental on artifacts) which is well audible, and furthermore often dampening the highest wanted audible frequencies in the process, to try and suppress this unwanted sound. In Serum, the native-mode (default) playback of oscillators operates with an ultra high-precision resampling, yielding an astonishingly inaudible signal-to-noise (for instance, -150 dB on a sawtooth played at 1 Khz at 44100)! This requires a lot of calculations, so Serum’s oscillator playback has been aggressively optimized using SSE2 instructions to allow for this high-quality playback without taxing your CPU any more than the typical (decent quality) soft synth already does. Load up Serum and we think you’ll be able to notice both what you hear (solid high frequencies, extending flat all the way up to the limits of hearing) as well as what you don’t hear (no unwanted mud or aliasing gibberish- just good, clean sound).
VI labs modern D gets pretty much universal acclaim from pianists including ones that play steinway pianos irl and it runs on the UVI falcon/workstation engine

>>103237668
stop crabwalking while recording anon

>>103237346
vocals are supposed to be compressed because of psychoacoustics, if you hold a conversation with someone they don't sound dramatically louder or quieter if they move slightly

and just generally you can apply a lot of effects to vocals to use them more like a musical instrument that fits within the song

>>103237771
ya i will just deal with it when i do the mix than, its not THAT bad
>>103237781
there is a shitload of reverb on them and a bit of saturation.

i don't think anyone here likes the music, pretty sure i posted a clip a couple weeks ago and got bullied
https://vocaroo.com/1nElY2cJynQQ

>>103237541
https://files.catbox.moe/9xjyvq.flac

>>103237073
People rave about the Pro-1, Model D, and 303 clones. Analog snobs are finished. The Moog clones crave and edge are also loved

Their originals like the neutron, proton, and deep mind get praise and are super cheap

The behringer eurorack stuff is cheap and good. Rackmount gear they have is insanely good for the price.

I wish their DJ mixers weren't so ugly and overdone. And I wish everything they made wasn't so ugly. They really suck at design

Their plastic guitar pedals are shit quality but sound good

>>103218671
Do you build your own instruments from the sheep that you've hunted or are you making fake music with pre-built instruments?

>>103231963
That's the worst possible advice. Stick with grooveboxes and steer clear of modular. You can recover from grooveboxes, modular is a rabbit hole you don't climb out of.

are torrents still the place to go for VST's like it was back in 2010?

>>103237895
ok tyvm, it doesn't have the instant wow factor but maybe it's not a fair comparison since they're dry. i was going to play some UVI falcon presets but my ableton 12.1 R2R installation is broken, it loses activation and then throws errors when trying to reactivate. i'm going to switch to reaper anyway.

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>>103238338
This.

If you want to make serious music get a computer.. If you want to goof around get a groovebox/drum machine/sampler.

If you want to go modular, get a behringer EDGE, Crave, and a Strega synced to your groovebox and see if you like it.

>>103238532
MPC + a couple synths > computer.

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at that point i would just learn to play the fuckin instrument

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>>103219028
I'm here to summon you to the forbidden path. Take the tracker pill. Renounce your fickle desires and compose beyond the fleeting whims of man

>>103238351
no, just buy that shit or you don't need it

>>103238693
on what planet would any combination of hardware ever be better than a macbook

>>103238693
>MPC + a couple synths > computer
An MPC is just a computer DAW with a gimped interface.

But that gimping can prevent option paralysis

All this talk of grooveboxes, which one would you choose; MC-101 or Circuit Tracks?

>>103219028
>someone talk me out of taking the hardware pill. my wishlist has grown into the dozens.

I've been getting into hardware for two years after using DAW for 10 with moderate success on my projects. Now I'm fucking old and just having fun, too busy to seriously make tracks so I just jam on a loop for 20 minutes and then back to family shit

I would say that hardware basically sucks if you're trying to do anytime modern and the cost is absurd and retarded. Hardware in 2024 is selling toys to aimless childless hipsters and geriatrics.

What you want is a hardware machine that will inspire you with new techniques that you being back to daw. Until you've tried to make a drum machine entertaining on its lonesome, you don't know drum sequencing. Check out "909" workout on YouTube

Basically you want something to goof around with in the couch and maybe bounce stems from, nothing else. Bounce your stems through a broken 4 track or analog guitar pedal if you want "hardware sound" it's bullshit.

Biggest hits right now are M8, Syntakt, MPC. I like the Deluge and electribe line. Imo.

Also all the classic rack hardware is mostly trash for rich old collectors. Don't look for deals there it's over

Pioneer FX boxes are the best also

>>103239333
Circuit tracks is so simplistic I don't think it will hold your interest. Mc101 is supposed to be super menu-divey but highly capable.

If I was going for cheap groovebox I would consider electribe 2, OP-Z and Abelton move. But if you want something people are making actual tracks on, M8 tracker

If you want old jank consider electribe em-1. There is also the liven groovebox and the woovebox mini groovebox

>>103239333
mc303

>>103239333
Oh yeah and the Yamaha seqtrak and the Digitakt 1 are dropping in price used.

>>103239406
If you can't live sequence that kind of sucks. All the old mc machines need to be sequenced when they aren't on playback

The Roland JD-XI keyboard is basically a groovebox. The drums slam on it but presets aren't easily tweaked

>>103239333
I believe in OP-1 supremacy

>>103239473
You believe in IKEA furniture and $1,000 folding table

>>103212368
I admire your ambitions but studying on which tool to focus on is a waste of time. The tool is ultimately interchangeable and you won't really know what you'd like in a tool until you start trying to craft something and fail on the way to learning. Music theory and musical composition matter much more than the intricacies of how a waveform distortion is different from a clip distortion.

>>103212284
>reaper with noob tools theme
heretical

>>103240173
What?

>>103241057
lmao sound selection is one of the main parts of a producer's job, you don't even need that fancy of a composition once the production quality is in place. people keep falling for the myth that successful artists are impossibly good at singing or have some secret mozart tier composition tricks. amateurs can sing a song and play guitar or whatever and it will never do numbers commercially without being polished with more production elements and mixing and masterings.

like most EDM tracks are built around simple arpeggio/sequence loops with different filters and such, the producers are rarely classically trained

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weeI1G46q0o
this is a top tier hit song based on a single bass pluck sound design. of course the featured artists are going to attract an audience but you don't get billions of streams without the song being good in some way. but /prod/ anons won't even acknowledge that it's a good song or that it's a good sound design so they can't even begin to learn.

>>103244741
You have to realize that very few listeners are also classically trained so your efforts are going to fall on deaf ears.
also EDM is dance music not sitting in your smoke room and jerk off to yourself about how cultured you are.

>>103245038
that's my point in response to >>103241057
>Music theory and musical composition matter much more

like sabrina carpenter - please please please has a key change which a youtuber pointed out as a genius move and that's the type of thing that rick beato would jerk off to but it's not rocket science to implement a key change in your song if that's what you want

a lot of the classic hit songs were shaped by the instruments/gear that the artists/producers had access to and in this modern era the pros are still using a lot of hardware or virtual analog plugins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g5KEjhw_HQ

a track that im in process of finishing, any feedback welcome
https://vocaroo.com/19qpdWPA50qj

Fun little loop made with Sytrus and DrumSynth.
https://voca.ro/1027lh2uWV4G

>>103244996
There is nothing good about this. It's soulless. Hip hop used to have funk and groove, what does this have? It's homogeneous slop designed for playback on phones in tiktoks.

>>103246474
it's bleeding edge sound design, it's not a bad thing that it comes across well on phones, the bass pluck is like a more refined version of what skrillex was doing with dubstep. you're missing out by not hearing subtle qualities in the timbre and details in the percussion and ear candy, especially if you wear headphones/IEMs the stereo effects are lost on you vs using speakers that project a soundstage in front of you.

>>103244996
imagine the potential if human voice gor ridden and the technique is used for something way better
why do people like music with overly cheesy human voice in it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a00phZrOMuI
this makes it easier to hear/see the composition
it's just as valid as any famous classical music

>>103246506
If there was a single person who thought you weren't trolling, now that number dropped down to zero.
NO ONE would ever think or say this unironically. Not even the supposed retard you've been pretending to be.
You are a confirmed troll and there's nothing you can say to convince us otherwise.

>>103246781
the song has billions of streams so obviously there's something about it that people find enjoyment in and you're complaining about not having funk and groove (funk and groove is very off-putting to most people who didn't grow up at a specific point in time with like disco and such). you're trying to be a producer while not even liking most music, i could list dozens of examples of songs with hundreds of millions and streams and you probably won't like any of them, it's a joke really how out of touch you can be with how music works while trying to be a producer yourself.

>>103246887
this is obvious bait
but here's a monumentally successful pop dance tune with genuinely good sound design that producers can appreciate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nntGTK2Fhb0

>>103246924
yeah that's a good one except i don't like the kick

>>103211589
Future Bass

>>103246887
Completely nonsensical post

>>103247041
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYAuR5bkIlQ

these are the people who don't think there's anything wrong with KSI's "thick of it"

>>103247077
me

>>103245703
bass and stereo image are utterly fucked. starts off sounding like you know nothing about music and then sorta comes back together. the hard pan left and right sound/shoegaze aspects don't really work for keeping interest. there's not enough movement or any sort of memory melody/harmony to latch onto

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>>103247163
exactly, KSI can make a clown song and get millions of views in weeks while you make serious songs and it gets 50 views
tell me what other song produces kino like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFk5qZr0loM

>>103247212
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbKRdAtDGWM

>>103247149
Its because i made the bass in 3/4 and rest of the elements are 4/4. Thought it was interesting, guess not lol.
I should probably remake bassline into something catchy. What do you mean by bass and stereo image being utterly fucked?

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thank you ai sir

>>103247290
kek at the 2 other key sigs there

>>103247249
that's not kino though

>>103247290
this reminds me of when (what i presume now is the headphone schizo troll) was going to learn music theory via ai. i remember all the retarded prompts he would post here about basic things you'd learn the first day of looking at a tutorial and getting completely wrong answers

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>>103245703
Mono everything under like 160 or 200 hz there's too much bass in your reverb.
Also look at the waveform of your song and try to guess which ear you might be deaf in.

>>103247696
some sweet dc offset in that

>>103247696
Some of the samples were left ear heavy and i didnt bother to fix it, i will tho.
Bass in mono is a good idea, but what does "too much bass in reverb" mean? Should i just lower the eq in bass frequencies on stuff that has reverb on it?

>>103247290
I’ve been writing tunes for like 10+ years now in probably like 2000 songs and used a diminished chord in a track less than 5 times I’m pretty sure.
That feels wrong.
I am stuck in a waiting room help

>>103247696
Bruh just high pass the input stop telling people to make ridiculous mono moves THE PROS don’t fucking do that just ask the schizo

>highpass
ngmi

>>103247876
Fite me u little bitch

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>>103247734
>Should i just lower the eq in bass frequencies on stuff that has reverb on it?
No, most reverb plugins have a low-cut setting where you tell it what frequency to not put reverb on.
Like >>103247874 says, yeah dont mono the whole song just your bass at maybe ~50-120 hertz then make your reverb plugin not reverberate those frequencies.

>>103248206
Yea i did that and it sounds better but still, i originally wanted to make that SAW 85-92 kind of kick with reverb, but also with reverb with both low and high frequencies. Does that work in his case because he didnt have a bassline to interfere and had a less busy track? Cause thats what i was going for

>>103247874
Are you a pro? Do you have a day job?
How many hours a week do you produce?

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>>103248431
ooooooh i see that now lol there's probably videos explaining how to get that sound but my guess is it's not reverb its just a sub drone with a pitch envelope

>>103249749
No I’m just a neet
30-50 if I had to guess, depending on mental health

>>103249824
Thats a bummer. I thought surely if youve made 2k songs in 10 years( thats like 4 songs a week) with that knowledge you could make some money, somehow
Do you have some followers on sc?
What music do you make?

>>103249779
>sub drone with a pitch envelope
How does that work to get a sound similar to kick? I dont get it

>>103249889
I mean, the overwhelming majority of that is just drafts with no polish- the number doesn’t really mean anything, anybody could do that.

I have like 50 followers on SC and peaked at like 30 something on a Spotify song under a name I forgot I even did I think..?
I haven’t put any effort at all into making money or getting out there honestly.
Not to sound arrogant, but realistically I could be making sounds for sample packs or making landfill soundtrack music or something like that, not that it would be any good but it would be “pro” only in the sense that money is involved (hence I don’t think that label really has any weight, but I digress).

IDM, jungle, rock, ambient, stupid stuff.
I’ve dabbled in everything but really only slightly excel in experimental stuff imo.
So you know… too niche

>>103250003
Cool, all of those genre i make also. Good luck then broski

>log in to bandcamp
>invalid email/password
>go to my profile url
>somehow it got chinked (the location got changed to some place in china)
>log in to soundcloud
>hey there might have been a data breach on another website, pls reset your password
well that's something. i sure as fuck hope my account simply got nuked and some chinaman took the username while i was away

>>103231446
>men of taste
>shittiest most basic and dated track I've heard this year

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Everyone on gearspace is an aggressive sperg and stubborn like a cow. They absolutely refuse to answer questions unless it's to sperg out about their opinions while belittling whoever started the thread for not buying a $2,000 compressor that TOTALLY SOUNDS GREAT OF YOU RECAP AND MOD IT BUDDY JUST LEARN TO SODDER HEH WORKS ON MY END GOT GREAT CHARACTER OF THAT'S THE X MODEL YOU NEED TO GET THE A MODEL WITH THE BLACK BUTTONS IS WAY WAY BETTER GOOD LUCK OH YEAH AND BEHRINGER SUCKS OKAY?!!?
Die boomers

>>103251992
you sound like you ask bad questions

>>103251992
As opposed to 4chan, where everybody is super helpful, chill, and knowledgeable?

>>103252011
I don't post on slutboomerz and never will

>>103252019
4chan is legitimately more helpful than boomshitterz spergspace

>>103251992
it's gearslutz

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Is there a rackmount compressor worth owning these days if I want to compress a mix of synths and drum machines?

The synth people have 1010 Bluebox, 4ch mixer with built in comp and recording. There's also the 6ch OTO Bebe Cherie with nice preamp distortion and comp. It seems like rack compression is a dead format since computers can do so much more for cheap

I'm looking at the behringer 396 neve clone and wondering if I should get

>>103252144
have you considered a really nice compressor?

>>103252157
I am thinking about that one. I would prefer a nice clean rackmount to the RNC format though

>>103252144
whatever the shittiest used dbx gear you can find locally

>>103250003
>I have like 50 followers on SC
56 ;) Would be 57 if I could find my login info...

>>103252451
used Drawmer DL241 if $200 seems like a better option than DBX

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>>103252434
I didn't think it would be that good when I got mine, but it has the cosigns. You literally try it the first time and say "hey, not bad for the price". Then later on you say, "you know, that is a really nice compressor". The super nice mode has some fancy things happening. However it is set up to run as a board master insert, so you if aren't into that I totally understand.

If I could find a way to make iris 2 not be laggy as shit it would move from my top 5(?) most used synths to top THREE this is such BULLSHIT

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>>103237846
that sounds like i need to tune my FM radio

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>>103232714
alright im not gonna work on this one anymore its definitely not 90s and the flow needs work but I made the bpm 131 and started the drums at the beginning :> plus more bullshit sounds
https://files.catbox.moe/fyqrew.mp3

Vital “delay” (envelopes and lfos)

Why the FLIP aren’t those syncable?
In fact why is that such a rare function on envelopes in the first place?
You know what had that over a decade ago? FM8.
Best annoying as fuck to use envelopes of all time. Awful.

But anyway that sync…
No actually I DONT want that extra thing in my pad to start happening after X seconds, I need it halfway through the BAR wtf.
Fuck you Matt tytel and fix all of the inconsistent syntax you are literally RUINING VITAL

>>103254572
It's much much closer though. I think if you could simplify or replace the main repeating buzz (sawtooth?) sound, then that would mostly do it sound-wise. It's the only part doesn't really sound "90s trance" to me (though some of the other sounds are definitely "late 90s" trance).
Structure-wise, you've got the formula basically correct, but the proportions still seem a bit off: the opening could go a bit longer before the first breakdown starts 0:22, and the second breakdown at 1:18 goes a bit long relative to the rest of the track (and could also still be stripped down a bit more).
Though, feel free to ignore my structure notes since I imagine you're probably not trying to make a standard 7+ min "extended mix". Just make sure to keep building tension, and then release, which I think you mostly got right.
For example, here's the "original mix"/"extended" version and "radio edit" version of Sandstorm
https://youtu.be/5Rk8u2FTaG0
https://youtu.be/jWMTJ0oepCU
You can hear how he obviously cut a lot out in the radio mix, but each section still successfully builds up and then releases into the next. On a related note: also notice the difference between the two 'drop's after the breakdowns. The first one (2:46 in extended, 0:31 in radio) has slightly less going on than the second and final one (5:00, 2:31). In between, new sounds got introduced (mainly that background bass in the second breakdown), and so they all come together at the end.
One final minor note: your drops after the breakdowns could use a bit more... something, probably some kind of whooshing noise. Trance producers love those fucking whooshing noises.

>>103254572
Idk how 90s this is but I think it sounds nice enough to be worth messing with a bit more.
The main thing that came to mind was that it could use some filtering and drop outs throughout

>>103254572
Is this an album submission?

>>103252142
Did you just deadname Gearspace? I'm calling the FBI.

>>103249917
You've never tried to make a kick sound with FM, have you?

>>103252019
KEK

>>103254790
How long is your bar in seconds, mate? Are you allergic to basic maths?

>>103255432
No I’m allergic to having to do the math every time I want to audition a patch or change bpm

https://youtu.be/rP20F8RIbfQ
>mfw none of my synths are vibe-driven

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw68nVhC79s

>>103255637
For me it's chill-based brickwall limiters and dopeness-powered panning laws

>>103255482
>he doesn't automate the maths he often needs in a handy spreadsheet with separate variables in different cells
Better sperging out how things are not done the way you wish, I guess.

>>103255482
>change bpm
for what purpose

>>103252067
4chan gives the illusion of being helpful when you're a complete beginner but ask anything non-trivial and you'll be ignored or seething boomers will troll you because they don't know the answer so they tell themselves that it's not worth caring about

>>103256824
That's also true of any other forum as well.

>>103256824
>>103252011

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>>103256824
turns out people with time and investment aren't easily motivated to help low effort leeching faggots

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phM6bYv_B5o

I am a noob. How do I prevent mistakes I made in this from happening and why does it sound alright on headphones and so shitty on phone speakers?

>>103257482
why are you here if you're just going to antagonize people. you're not putting in the effort yourselves like for example >>103247874 >>103249824 >>103250003 should have gotten quite good at writing songs if it was a disciplined 10 years that he spent on it and he should realize by now that songwriting isn't the bottleneck of he wants to produce songs himself. >>103255482 gets filtered by basic math which anyone with a healthy body and mind should be capable of dealing with.