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A general for running a server in your home.

>Links & resources
Self-hosting software: https://gitlab.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted
https://www.labgopher.com
https://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox/Features
List of ARM-based SBCs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PGaVu0sPBEy5GgLM8N-CvHB2FESdlfBOdQKqLziJLhQ
Low-power x86 systems: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LHvT2fRp7I6Hf18LcSzsNnjp10VI-odvwZpQZKv_NCI
SFF cases https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AddRvGWJ_f4B6UC7_IftDiVudVc8CJ8sxLUqlxVsCz4/
Cheap disks: https://shucks.top/ https://diskprices.com/
PCIE info: https://files.catbox.moe/id6o0n.pdf
>For more SATA ports, use PCIe SAS HBAs in IT mode

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no. my home is my home not a server
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>>103207852
i want to be this guy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b3t37SIyBs
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How do I serve an LLM to my friends without eventually becoming a chinese mining bot?
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>>103207959
any time i see a homelab with ubiquiti equipment i automatically assume they're a retard. i'm not sorry about it either.
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>>103208478
why?
i mean im not a unifi guy myself but i never really had a negative impression of their stuff.
i like their access points. i have two u6 pros and theyre pretty good.
i selfhost the controller though and never used any of their other stuff so i cant speak to that.
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>>103208422
Setup proper auth and then open your ports
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>>103207836
god I used to be like this, kinda miss the noise
still got the drives in storage but I'm on two synology 1621pluses, each with 6*16tb drives
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Yamate? Yamete? Who can really know?
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>>103207836
How does UPS capacity work? I have around 50 watts draw on my small servers. If I get a 650 VA UPS shouldn't it last for around 13 hours?
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>>103208997
someone will correct me if this is wrong, but the manuals for mine talked about how they're only really designed for short term bursts during power cuts, not constant use for hours
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>wifi suc-ACK
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Do I need fire suppression for my UPS ?
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>>103209173
>wifi 6
enjoy your ear and eye cancer
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>>103208422
geoblocking
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>>103209376
If you get Eaton you're probably fine. I think cyberpower did have an issue with glue they were using melting and leading to fires or something like that.
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>>103208422
Use alias'
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Should I get a mystery meat "easy web managed" switch from ebay or get one that's big enough for everything I have, like mikrotik's 8+2 thing? $40 for a just-fit vs $220~250 complete replacement. I only have a normal 5-port gigabit switch for my stuff and it's quickly becoming not enough as I do more nonsense.
Actually, if I get mystery meat no-name switch, it better be completely dumb.
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>>103209563
qrd?
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>>103208997
50w = 50va essentially so a 650va is overpowered for what you need it for, but you need to find out the actual battery capacity. You need to look at the amp hours of the battery to find out how long it lasts. UPS companies depend on their customers to not do the math. Your draw would be around 2.5a so if you have a 5Ah battery you would be safe for around 2 hours.
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>>103207836
I know LSI SAS2008s are older than your mom, but are they still a better choice than whacking in a SATA card?
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>>103210455
>50w = 50va
Not according to APC
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>>103207836
>have multiple projects and want fail safe backups
>am archiving irl documents and family photos
>really want to host local services like a cloud converter and media server

Should I just get a 4 drive NAS, set it to raid 0, and put a stripped down Win10 ISO on it to run a locally hosted instance of the services I want? I want something small.

I was thinking about rigging this HDD chasis https://share.temu.com/v1GfIL18JuA up to a Pi or something.
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>>103208545
This is the same guy who shitted on using ubiquiti because of their stock price . Meaning Apple should automatically make the best servers by his logic.

I second my earlier statement that some of the /hsg/ OG were sexually abused by a Ubiquiti employee. Its the only thing I can point out.

They counter with the fact because "muh be all end all" LACP is the ONLY thing thats important in networking gear. These fuckers think having (10) 1gbe LACP is better than having a single 10gbe connection.

Just let them hate. Ubiquiti is great for small home network and small business needs. Their forums are great for support (WAY better than tplink, palo alto mandatory saas, cisco, etc) and their equipment actually looks nice.

Their access points are legit and pass the WAF in most non-nigger households.
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hey so I have about 30tb in a tower spread over 6 sata slots, what's the best way to set it up for ssh so I can change playlists and mess around with stuff?
I'm running mint right now, 21.3 I think. Somebody said mint isn't good for server stuff but I don't know what that means exactly. Any insight would be appreciated
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Anyone have a quick and easy bastion server setup with auth and wireguard setup over the web server? I just want to spin up a vps that I can quickly point to docker containers or native apps back home on the fly. Kind of like YUNO Host's interface, but its not designed to be a bastion or handle containers well.
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>>103210888
dont use raid 0 on anything you actually care about
If 1 drive goes down, you lose the entire array
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>>103211131
>If 1 drive goes down, you lose the entire array
I had no idea this was the case
I thought when 1 drive in an array went down, you had the mirror to back it up

What is the literal point in raid0 then? Why did this retarded configuration get created?
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>>103211311
Anon I'm pretty sure you're thinking of raid 1
Raid 0 is more for speed
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>>103211364
You're right, I forgot there was a raid0 and raid1 and assumed raid0 was what raid1 was
Well I'm fucking retarded
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how do i update my ignition file and redeploy it? is that process only available in nixOS?
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Have to leave the country due to work
How could I replicate my Proxmox server on the cloud?

AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
64gb ECC 2666mhz ram
2x6TB WD Red
1x12TB Barracuda
1x1TB NVME N.2 Samung 970 pro (OS and VMs LVMs)
1xTB NVME SK hynix (cache and CDN)

Services:
- Vaultwarden
- PiHole
- Transmission with Prowlarr, Radarr, Sonarr
- Jellyfin with GPU transcoding
- Gitlab self hosted
- Openmediavault|
- self-hosted CDN
- Suwayomi
- occasional game servers (minecraft, Project Zomboid, Palworld)

Around 4 VMs running all of this.

I feel I'll have to just backup everything to the cloud , sell it all and then just build another server from scratch somewhere else. Or maybe box it all piece by piece and mail it in a big box via Air...
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Thinking of self-hosting a chan, what are some good anonymous domain registrars which accept crypto?
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>>103211754
i literally run more than that on a 4c/4t cpu with 8gb of ram on a dinky hp prodesk minipc.
rent a cheap vps or set up a vpn and leave your stuff intact.
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I'm looking for an alternative to tailscale before I cave and just do it for access to my shit outside of my house. Was planning to use IPsec to connect to a nested router in the house but network security is nonsense and tailscale still requires an "identity provider" which feels antithesis to how I've kept identities separated on the internet. Well, tried to.

>>103211389
>Well I'm fucking retarded
Not really, we're all just collectively stuck with the retard that defined raid levels as numbers that do not represent how many drives you can lose. zfs technically fixed this but fuckers get it wrong all the time still.
Just wait until you come across hypervisor levels, which has become completely meaningless as of late. Or USB standards.

>>103211754
No family or friends you could leave it with until you set up a new server? I'm generally against traveling with physical data too so you'd have to figure out sometime to transfer/backup that stuff on the internets.
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>>103207836
>still has the plastic film stuck on the case
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>>103210964
holy cope you better be getting paid
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What am I generally looking for when searching for mobos for a NAS build? Just I/O and expansion slots?
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>>103207836
how much for the electric cost?
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>>103209563
do wifi 6 really made you a cancer?
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>want moar gigabits for my server
>main routers are mesh with ax but only 2 gbe ports
>don't want to replace because $ and works well as is otherwise
my dumb idea is to
>install 4x gbe nic
>enable link aggregation
>grab old standalone ax router I have in the closet
>plug in all 4 (or 5 if it works) ports from server
>put it in bridge mode
>connect to mesh wifi net
>enjoy 3000 niggabits
to be clear I already get full gigabit speeds to and from the server, I just want more. and I wanted to just slap a card into the server but I don't think truenas supports wireless in any way unfortunately.
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>>103210438
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>>103211754
Why not just use tailscale or wireguard?
>>103213369
I just use wireguard, no need for a identity provider.
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>>103208422
.htaccess
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>>103208422
could do it with tailscale
1. create a tailnet and generate a tagged key for each friend (https://tailscale.com/kb/1085/auth-keys)
2. create an ACL rule so the tagged keys only have access to the LLM ports on your machine

then they just have to login to the tailnet using their key and connect to your.tailscale.ip:llm-port
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>>103210824
They probably say that because you're supposed to multiply your need by 2 for initial surge. Again these UPS companies just wanna sell shit. They don't care if it's actually what you need.
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>>103215269
It's more has to do with what's expected to be used on a UPS
Switching power supplies in general have a pretty bad power factor (0.5 often) which essentially doubles the load on certain power handling components the UPS has to be built to handle this.

UPS companies have zero idea what kinds of power supplies are going to be connected. Wether it be devices without active PFC or active PFC circuits that don't work with a simulated sine wave. So they give a generalized recommendation so the UPS has a chance to actually function as intended.
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Gonna use ZFS for the first time to setup 6 1TB disks in RAID-Z2, wish me luck. I wanted to use BTRFS but RAID6 is still fucked apparently.
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>>103215607
why not sacrifice just one additional drive and have a pool of mirrors?
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Looking to upgrade my 2016 $200 Walmart laptop that I use as a server now with something decent. I'vve been looking at i5 and 32gb ram. Is an off still a good option? I can get one for about $300 with 2TB storage. What do these things usually go for?
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How do you guys know if an HDD is CMR or SMR? I've looked at the datasheets for HDD lots that I've found on eBay, but none of the datasheets specify the type.
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>>103211311
raid0 = stripe. there is no mirror.
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>>103210455
>>103208997
>>103210824

from my limited understanding VA is equal to but not the same as wattage in a DC system. so it's saying "I can provide 650w without exploding" not necessarily "I can provide 50w for 13 hours". for that you would have to check the amp-hour rating of the batteries. also loads on it would be AC anyway so the math gets slightly more satanic and it's useful to give different numbers for DC and AC loads on your ups

still, again, the simplest estimate would come from looking at the amp-hour rating of the batteries and the total draw in amps of your connected loads
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>>103213781
Their stock price is too low to pay me, remember?
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>have 4 full portable ssds
>4th is 80% full

How do I do this right?
I just want a personal archive so I can come back in a decade and see what I was doing around now.
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>>103214792
>Why not just use tailscale or wireguard?

I am leaving the country with not earthly possessions but my server, my workstation, clothes, phone and a table to my name. I sold my car a couple of months ago.
>>103213369
No family or friends you could leave it with until you set up a new server?

I have an aunt and a cousin in Florida I could leave them the server but knowing them they'll charge me an eye and a leg for the electricity draw of the server (which is pretty low, I calculate ~40-50$ a month)
>>103213124
I also play around with stuff on VMs at most I have had 6-8 VMs running stuff but given the lack of use of such services and my abandonment I decided to plain wind them down and make it more compact.

The problem with cloud solutions is storage, storage is god damn expensive as a subscription in the fast research I have done. Any of you guys know any company that offers Massive Storage as a service for a reasonable price?

>inb4 Amazon, Microsoft or some souless corporation

Please anons think of the children in rural America that wish not to pay corporations for 8TB of storage.
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>>103214792
wireguard is simply a protocol, still need a way to handshake/locate devices outside of the home network.

>>103216421
An SFF shouldn't be any more than $100. Maybe a bit more if the processor is 10th gen or newer. Just avoid the ones that try to bundle windows and keyboards and other useless shit. Also skip the listing if they omit the bower prick if you're getting a usff/msff.
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>>103219041
>wireguard is simply a protocol, still need a way to handshake/locate devices outside of the home network.
You can just use a wireguard server and peer and open a udp port.
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Is it worth using custom firmware on my ASUS router?
https://github.com/gnuton/asuswrt-merlin.ng/releases/tag/3004.388.8_2-gnuton1
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>>103207836
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>>103216248
Would that be for speed reasons? Honestly asking because I don't know shit about ZFS and from what I could gather from Youtube and other forums, 6disk RaidZ2 is the """best practice""" for data safety.

Basically, I plan on turning my fileserver into "cold-storage" and expanding my media server to also serve files. Before I do that, I wanted to copy over files that I frequently access to this new RAID. My goal is to reduce any potential of turning on my fileserver outside of doing my intended routine backups.
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Anyone use photoprism? Trying to figure out the best way to have inidividuals backups for my wife and I but also be able to combine photos for year-end photo albums. Do I need paid features for this?
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Anyone here run archivebox and know how to bypass cloudfare's "verify you're a human" shit? I just got it set up on my server, and one of the pages I tried archiving gave me pic related. I'm not trying to DDoS anyone, I just wanna save some neat webpages I like. It's set up through a docker-compose file, and I specified in that file that it should use google chrome as it's user agent.
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>>103213894
You should look for whatever you need. Figure out what kind of software you intend to run, and what you intend to do with it, then determine the hardware you need to effectively accomplish your goals. Are you just going to use it to store files to be shared on your local network? Are you planning on using it to store documents you're not gonna access all that often, or high bitrate 4K videos you intend to stream? Are you gonna run stuff on bare metal? Virtual machines? Docker containers? Do you want a plain old ext4 filesystem on a single drive, or some kind of crazy RAID setup? What kind of networking speeds do you need?
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>>103219202
I recommend the Merlin fork. Great support on small net builder. Has a GREAT simple globohomo dns blocking function that all normie routers should have by default.
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>>103221976
This is for the Ax6000 router hardware btw. No idea what router you have.
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>>103220952
I have photoprism but never use those features. I travel a lot for work so I use it for my auto photo mapping functionality. The ability to see on a map all my photos that I can zoom in or out to scale is *chefs kiss* helpful for me.
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I'm on mint 22 and i an currently running
Jellyfin, Pi Hole, Kavita, SearXNG, and an Invidious instance
any recommendations on a program for monitoring? currently planning to run a dashy instance
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>>103207959
>>103207836
the only stat that matters
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I love you, Home Server General anons.
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what does it mean when your pool reports some corrupted files but then lists those files (with zpool status -v) in hex rather than a plain name/path?
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>>103224673
;)
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>>103221830
My goal is general home network storage, with something like plex or jellyfin so my mother can watch stuff on her tablet. Minimal transcoding, and nothing 4k. Probably bare metal Debian or TrueNAS. No RAID, just a simple drive pool. I'm close to filling my current 8tb pool, so I'll be adding some more drives soon. I was thinking something with 4+ SATA ports, with expansion slots for a SAS HBA and a 10Gb NIC if I need those in the future.
I have a spare Intel i5-8500T I'm hoping to use, but aside from CPU/RAM support and I/O I'm not sure what else could impact NAS performance.
I already have a couple thin clients that I use for VMs/Containers and general grunt work
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>helium filled "seller refurb" with 30k+ hours : $95
>regular mfg recert: $105
>helium filled mfg recert: $115
if they are all the same brand and capacity (hgst/wd 12tb) and I'm going to buy at least 10, it's worth the premium to get the recertified helium drives, no? or is the helium somehow bad for a home server?
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I'm a big noob, but I have a home server set up with a few services. Until now I've had no real reason to need or want to access the services from outside my home network, but I'm going on a long trip soon and it would be nice to be able to access them while away. I don't want to open up any ports to the public. Anybody know any good resources for choosing and setting up a vpn for my home server? Ideally the vpn would have support for linux, macos, iOS, and andoird clients. The server is running ubuntu server.
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>>103227983
I have used wireguard many times like this with success, can't speak to iOS.
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>>103218406
oh man, so many options. What are the sizes of each?
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^_^ my comfy sneed box
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>>103227983
i use wireguard on a nonstandard port exposed to the internet. the service doesn't respond to incoming requests so if the key exchange doesn't work the port looks like it's closed from the outside. obviously you should be monitoring inbound traffic using a dashboard, snmpv3, netflow, or other tools, and have an IDS/IPS inline just to be safe.
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I'm looking to get a Synology DS923+. I did a search on Camel and noticed that it never goes on sale. Should I bite the bullet now? Or wait until black Friday?

Same with the hard drives, should I hold off for a bit or take them now?
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>>103228050
>>103228636
Wireguard is perfect. Was super easy to setup, and supports all of the devices my wife and I are taking. Thanks.
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why are racks so expensive?
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Deciding between the cheaper 6gb Arc a40 pro and a 8gb rtx a1000 for card to HAss AI work(frigate and full voice assistant pipeline) .

To choose between the cards I need to know if openvino can store models in host memory or will I be limited by the vram on my GPU, Is anyone aware?
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>>103230249
They aren't if you are willing to travel and buy used.
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>>103208997
No, because the inverter will use a steady amount of electricity, regardless of load. Even no load.

There is also a 15-20% loss in efficiency during the conversion of DC to AC. Furthermore, the batteries will degrade over time. You should never expect full capacity. Most UPS companies will help you by putting up a chart online to get a "real world" understanding how long it'll last with a given load. For example, here is one that I use for my router:

https://assets.tripplite.com/ups-runtime-chart/bc850r-runtime-chart-en.pdf

Also pic related, if you don't want to follow the link. So it's an 850VA ups. The router uses 20 watts. So based on this chart, I can expect about an hour of runtime.

There is a new technology emerging with powerstations. They offer UPS functionality at a fraction of the cost. Previously you'd have to pay thousands to get long runtimes. But now, it's just a few thousand. Personally I use the Anker F3800 with two expansion batteries. They'll last me over 24h with a 550watt load. So that's my gaming computer, home server, router and everything.

If that's too expensive, other models exist like the C1000, which is a cheap one-KWH solution.

And just recently (this month? idk) a new brand hit the market offering "zero millisecond" UPS cutover times. It's the Jackery 5000. See this channel for a rundown of a bunch of brands:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWnw37J4sZE

It's really your best option in 2024. After these systems and tesla powerwalls take over the market, old UPS systems will recede into datacenters, and probably eventually die out in favour of megapacks.
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tteck died :(

https://github.com/community-scripts/ProxmoxVE/discussions/237

I used his scripts to setup my first LXCs when I didn't know what the fuck I was doing. From the looks of it, his work was very helpful to others getting started. RIP
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>>103229401
They do go on sale, usually $50-80 off. Wait for black Friday. Camel can be unreliable at times. B&h also usually matches the Amazon sales
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Looking at making a local media server/archive for all my legally acquired movies and anime.
Buying new from a local vendor, I could get some 8TB Seagate Barracuda 5400RPM drives for just AU$209 per, which seems like a pretty good deal, but I'm wondering if they'll be fast enough to (for example) stream a 4k movie from the server to my media PC over WLAN?
Otherwise, could I do better looking on Amazon or waiting for the black friday sales? I'd prefer to get 12+ GB capacity drives, but the $/GB ratio doesn't seem worth it, at least from this vendor.
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>>103233446
I am running effectively ancient 5400 drives and get 100 MB/s on continuous files, probably at least 20 for fragmented files
So unless you have no RAM, or have a filesystem that fragments files by default you should be good
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>>103224985
metadata errors. if they don't go away with clear, initiate (and cancel) a scrub
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'sup /hsg/
Looking for advice here.
I currently have all my services and shit in a single big Proxmox box which have been running fin and I'm thinking of splitting some services into different hosts. All my services can run in a fanless mini PC except Minecraft so I'm moving it to a dedicated box and I'll be building a bot for my buddies to turn it on via WOL whenever they want to play.
The question here is if I should just migrate the VM to baremetal, migrate it to LXC, migrate to Docker or just copy the VM over to the new host.
Thanks in advance
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>>103235295
Forgot to add, the original host is a Proxmox R7-5700G and the one is a R5-2600, still debating which OS to use.
>Proxmox
>>Pro: LXC frontend/support
>>Pro: UI
>>Con: Licensing
>>Con: Extra stuff that don't need
>Debian
>Pro: Light, no extra stuff
>Pro: Licensing
>Con: No UI for LXC
I like the ability to easily manage and migrate a container but I can live without it.
Plus, given there's a signficant performance regression from going to Zen 3 to Zen+, I figured it'd be better to just run minecraft on baremetal to minimize the penalty
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How can I secure a port against basic script kiddy jeets?
>the software listening will only be active for a few hours a week
>VPN connection isn't an option
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>>103236103
Make sure there are no other ports open in the server.
Enhance the security of the application listening on that port so you might as well tell us which one is it.
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>>103207836
i could get a gpu server with 10 tesla m60 cards for 1000$.
what can i do with it ?
should i buy it ?

or should i save the money and buy a rtx 5000 card ?
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>>103236531
If you have to ask then don't
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>>103236495
Arma 3 server. So far that's the only publicly open port, everything else is VPN/LAN only. Also it's running inside a VM if that matters.
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>>103236794
>Arma 3 server
You want to follow this: https://community.bistudio.com/wiki?title=Arma_3:_Server_Config_File&useskin=darkvector#Server_Security
Take special look at BattlEye to disable remote execution.
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>>103236881
Oh shit, thanks anon. It's technically a private server with a password, so in theory most randos can't see it, let alone connect to begin with.
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Would it be worth it buying an old Supermicro server (the ones with 24+ bays) just to rip the guts out (it wouldn't come with processors or RAM anyways) so I can implant my motherboard, CPU, NIC, and SAS HBA card inside.
Because it would only cost 300 bucks versus the 400 for a Rosewill hot swap case.
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>>103207836
when I first launched my websites and used Let's Encrypt's certbot, I am 95% sure I didn't have to spin up a temporary webserver. Not I need to in order to renew my certs, which requires fucking around with my nginx configs.

Is this new? Or am I mistaken
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>>103237175
you have a compatible Supermicro motherboard to swap? I'm pretty sure they have a proprietary form factor, just like everyone else.
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>>103237865
I figured I could just drill my own spacer holes if it came to that.
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>>103238102
you'd have to make sure that the PCIe slots are aligned just right, also that CPU cooling fits.
Some servers/workstations have very different dimensions, even with your own spacer holes the mobo could overlap with PSUs, chassis fans etc.
Do your research, there's plenty of things to go wrong.
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>>103238102
They're totally different shapes and dimensions, it's not a "It's mATX but with different holes" situation.
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>>103238135
Ehh, since I made the original post I discovered KCMconmey's 4u case and that seems to cover my use case (A shitload of hot swap drives with a form factor that accepts consumer hardware guts). I think paying the extra 200 or so bucks is worth not having the hassle of converting a full ass server.
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>>103228191
comfy~
can you hear it buzzing?
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>>103238595
Ya :3 when the hdd buzzes it's trying to communicate with me
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If your uptime is less than 24 days, lower your tone when speaking to me.
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>>103238632
if you uptime is less than 24 days and 3 hours, lower your FUCKING tones when whispering to me
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Is there any reason other than trying to save a few pennies on electricity as to why I wouldnt just host all I need out of my normal PC?
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>>103238614
oh, very comfy home server anon-kun

here is my little family. We live, laugh, cry, and love together. They're pretty quiet, as I've surgically removed all their magnetic discs
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>>103238664
because your normal pc will crash due to the humongous amount of gay porn you watch and it won't be able to serve important stuff to the rest of your people
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>>103238674
What a handsome family you have. Here's to long health and happiness
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>>103238702
are you trying to make me cry?? thank you, thank you!!!! <3

They're all born in China, but I still lub' 'um like you wouldn't believe. The oldest is turning 13 soon, they youngest will be 1 soon <3!
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>>103208478
its for midwits and even if it weren't, no serious companies use it because there's no support (not even to the extent of a recommended upgrade path).
their L3 switches are quite frankly false advertising.
My U7 Pro has been OK but it's pretty hard to fuck up an access point.

>>103209173
i am the captain now
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>>103210348
I have a mystery meat 2.5G/SFP+ switch and its been fine. draws 5w when not supplying PoE
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I'm getting upgraded to Fibre for free next month, will finally have decent upload. It's expensive but better than the 40mbps I currently have.
I'll need a new router though, what should I look at? I was thinking of going custom with pfsense but I don't have any hardware to run it at the moment. Not sure what to look for.
I want 10GbE between my server and desktop, so I was thinking the router would plug into a switch that had both 1GB (or 2.5) and 4 10GbE ports (SFP probably).
How do I connect wifi APs? Just into the switch or should they be connected to the router? I was going to start with one that's at least wifi 6 (maybe wifi 7 if they're cheap enough) then get a second one for the shed if it needs it.
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>>103238632
86 days 14 hours 42 minutes and counting
im gonna have to shut it down sometime tho because i bought a couple more ram sticks and id like to install them
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>>103239076
At which point you'll need to lower your tone when speaking to me.
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Any idiea on how to get an Ethernet connection? I am a student living in a shared house with the only place to put the router being my roomates room. What would be the best way to get an Ethernet connection without a cable? I have some raspberrypis, a 1b with a wifi dongle and a 4 with some stuff on it. Would a repeater be worth it? My room is close enough to have a great connection
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>>103241731
So the 4 needs an ethernet connection? Probably easier to just get a USB wifi adaptor
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>>103241774
No I have a server running truenas that needs it, the pi 4 has wifi built in
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Been using a raspi for jellyfin, pihole, omv, and torenting.
I'm looking for 2160p HDR H.265/HEVC transcoding on a minipc. Is the GMKtec G5 good enough? And can i replace the raspi with it or should i use it just for transcoding?
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>>103215607
Good luck king!
But on the off chance you're doing this on *ubuntu...
sudo install zfsutils-linux
sudo apt-get update
sudo zpool create HDDPOOL1 raidz2 001 002 003 004 005 006 \\
-o ashift=12 \\
-O acltype=posixacl -O xattr=sa -O dnodesize=auto \\
-O compression=lz4 \\
-O normalization=formD
sudo zfs set mountpoint=/var/HDDP1 HDDPOOL1
sudo zfs create HDDPOOL1/PLEX
sudo zfs create HDDPOOL1/BACKUP
sudo zfs create HDDPOOL1/BATCHES
cd /var/HDDP1
sudo chmod g+w PLEX
sudo chown :anon PLEX
sudo chmod g+w BACKUP
sudo chown :anon BACKUP
sudo chmod g+w BATCHES
sudo chown :anon BATCHES
sudo zfs set sharesmb=on HDDPOOL1/PLEX
sudo zfs set sharesmb=on HDDPOOL1/BACKUP
sudo zfs set sharesmb=on HDDPOOL1/BATCHES

This will create a raidz2 pool made of the disks with aliases 001 through 006. Those aliases can be set with:
cd /etc/zfs/
sudo nano vdev_id.conf

Then you'd go:
alias 001    /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WUH721816ALE6L4_2BJR66MN
alias 002 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WUH721816ALE6L4_2BK88RWN
alias 003 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WUH721816ALE6L4_2PGN8XXT
alias 004 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WUH721816ALE6L4_2BKD68SN
alias 005 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WUH721816ALE6L4_2PG9D0ZT
alias 006 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WUH721816ALE6L4_2BKD5URN

followed by
sudo udevadm trigger

to set those aliases for (in this case) some WD 16tb drives that your zpool command can then reference to build your pool.
Additionally, these commands will also create 3 directories named PLEX, BATCHES, and BACKUP within the zpool, assign the necessary ownership/permissions for anon to modify files within those directories without superuser privileges (think thunar for ease of access), set those directories to be able to be shared on your lan via samba to a windows computer, then mount all that bullshit in the specified mount location in the var directory (HDDP1). All the other shit is for generalized performance/sector size/compression.
Rock on dude, zfs rules!
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Is there a router that has
4x SFP+ ports
6-10 2.5 GBPS ports
Maybe PoE on some of the 2.5 ports but not a deal breaker
Power efficient and not noisy
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>>103242909
>Router
I meant switch
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>>103215607
>>103242868
So Ideally the order for these commands is:
sudo install zfsutils-linux
sudo apt-get update
cd /etc/zfs/
sudo nano vdev_id.conf

Then:
alias 001    /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WUH721816ALE6L4_2BJR66MN
alias 002 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WUH721816ALE6L4_2BK88RWN
alias 003 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WUH721816ALE6L4_2PGN8XXT
alias 004 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WUH721816ALE6L4_2BKD68SN
alias 005 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WUH721816ALE6L4_2PG9D0ZT
alias 006 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WUH721816ALE6L4_2BKD5URN

Save that and exit, then do:
sudo udevadm trigger

And then finally:
sudo zpool create HDDPOOL1 raidz2 001 002 003 004 005 006 \\
-o ashift=12 \\
-O acltype=posixacl -O xattr=sa -O dnodesize=auto \\
-O compression=lz4 \\
-O normalization=formD
sudo zfs set mountpoint=/var/HDDP1 HDDPOOL1
sudo zfs create HDDPOOL1/PLEX
sudo zfs create HDDPOOL1/BACKUP
sudo zfs create HDDPOOL1/BATCHES
cd /var/HDDP1
sudo chmod g+w PLEX
sudo chown :anon PLEX
sudo chmod g+w BACKUP
sudo chown :anon BACKUP
sudo chmod g+w BATCHES
sudo chown :anon BATCHES
sudo zfs set sharesmb=on HDDPOOL1/PLEX
sudo zfs set sharesmb=on HDDPOOL1/BACKUP
sudo zfs set sharesmb=on HDDPOOL1/BATCHES

That's the money. Thank you for coming to my ted talk and remember, if you decide to seed from the pool, you will not be able to delete the pool, it's contents, or unmount/rename the directory that has torrents actively running in it. Those will need to be pause/stopped prior to a restart, then you can fuck with the aforementioned deletion of things.
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>>103215607
>I wanted to use BTRFS but RAID6 is still fucked apparently.
I've been running a 14 disk 80TB btrfs RAID6 for years under heavy load and making use of all kinds of features like fs-level compression, tons of snapshots and subvolumes, quotas, etc. It's fine as long as you have a basic idea of what you're doing and know how not to get yourself in a potential write-hole situation.
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>>103215607
>>103242868
>>103242953
Also it should go without mentioning that you're replacing the
ata-WDC_WUH721816ALE6L4_12345678

with whatever the contents of your
>/dev/disk/by-id/
directory contains to identify your specific drives.
Have fun.
>Verification not required.
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I got Searxng installed today and its pretty cool being able to have my own self hosted metasearch. Its not a difficult setup at all, pretty smooth.
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>>103209173
>doesn't show jitter
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>>103208478
You're generally right. Price/performance is terrible, just as loud as real enterprise gear that shits down Ushitquiti's throat for capability and flexibility, and just screams "i bought the first thing that came up when I typed '10gb switch' into google".
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>ISP broke ipv6 again
>No way to contact them to figure out when it will be fixed or just get some info on it because customer support won't know
Too bad business internet is outrageously expensive. This is a major tier 1 residential ISP btw.
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>btrfs scrub start
>Time left: 852:23:38
At least it'll probably still be 2024 when it finishes
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aight /hsg/
redpill me on migrating my NAS hd's from ext4 to btrfs.
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>picking up new parts today
>will be putting old parts in server
yeah im thinken based
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>>103246028
I put 2x160GB disks from 2007 in mirror recently. I have no use for them yet, but why not.
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>>103246106
absolutely massive move
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>>103242868
>>103242953
>>103243016
Thanks anon. Waiting on my last remaining drive to arrive before I start
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>>103245305
What the array size and layout ?
>btrfs
Lmao
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>>103246226
88TB physical, raid6 data + raid1c3 metadata
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If I don't necessarily need any network sharing features, what're my options for a JBOD/DAS with maybe 6 or more drive bays?
Are there NAS' that connect to the host system over ethernet, or is it just Thunderbolt/some flavour of USB? Assuming I were competent (I'm not) would I be able to set it so I plug in a NAS & my computer into my basic 4port gigabit switch but only accessible to each other? My housemate doesn't need access since he has his own storage sorted.
Or, instead of any of that, would it be easier to use some parts I already have (case, spare fans, power supply), then throw in some cheap shit mobo that has the connectivity I need, build a sort of NAS around that, then call it a day?
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>>103246610
My LVM integrity(slow AF) 16tb x 5 R6 array only takes 72 hours to scrub and that's with a storage controller from a Chinese knock off motherboard .

>852:23:38
To take that long you the entire array is would have to be operating at less then 60mbs total . Even for BTRFS this is shit . You sure you don't have any hardware problems ?
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>>103247235
>If I don't necessarily need any network sharing features, what're my options for a JBOD/DAS with maybe 6 or more drive bays?
Just plug the hard drives into your PC and configure JBOD
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>>103247235
>over ethernet
there's iSCSI, but that will require a JBOD with iSCSI controller + it's gonna have much worse latency, i'd avoid that if i could.
>just Thunderbolt/some flavour of USB
SAS is the standard, have a PCIe SAS HBA in your host + a plain JBOD with SAS connectors (SFF-8088, SFF-8644 etc.). SAS HBAs are compatible with SATA, just make sure that the JBOD is also SATA compatible.
>cheap shit mobo that has the connectivity I need
this is an option, but beware of ports behind SATA controllers on mobos, you should only use native AHCI ports. Check documentation for your chipset. Bigger sockets means more IO, but those are mostly used in servers and workstations afaik.
If you're stuck with ATX with not enough I/O, you can simply use a PCIe SAS HBA for more ports.
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>>103246170
Don't sweat it, if you care about the samba thing let me know and I'll beat together a basic guide for cobbling that together as well.
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>>103207836
I want a dumb external HDD enclosure that connects via USB 2.0 (3.0 not needed) with the capacity of at least 3 drives.
Just a black box to connect to a computer and expose the drives so I can set up software RAID with mdadm/btrfs.
Any recommendations?
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>>103249741
Google "USB harddrive enclosure" and take your pick.
They're all just a box with a basic circuit board for power and data passthrough, I just wouldn't pick the cheapest one you find. If it will see more use than 20-30 minutes a day, look for one with a fan.
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>>103249781
Maybe it's because of where I live, but with a search term like that I can't seem to find ones that are not single disk.
Tons and tons of hits for those.
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>>103249741
>>103249838
At this point it seems like I've a better chance 3D printing an external HDD drive support from STLFinder and getting some used external HDD cases and a USB hub.
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>>103249741
take a look at Yottamaster / Orico, might find something that suits
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not too well versed in server things. im looking for a 12/24/whatever server hdd rack that is only basically a hot swap case for holding hdds that get connected to an external computer, not one of the ones that is intended to have an entire computer inside of it too. is that a thing or not really? i've tried searching for "server hdd rack" or "1u/2u hdd enclosure" and similar terms but only really come up with the ones meant to have the computer inside too. I just want a nice and secure way to be able to hold a large number of drives (more than what is generally possible in a consumer case) that I can connect to my nas server without having to have it inside the rack itself, and also without having to resort to 3d print janky hdd frames.
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>>103250211
They're called JBODs.
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>>103250279
much appreciated!
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>>103250182
>Yottamaster / Orico
Yup, seems like that's it.
Thanks!
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>>103207836
Dunno where to ask, >>>/g/fag/ isn't online.
>Apple Mac Mini Server Farms
Why?
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>>103231160
I searched everywhere for mid depth enclosed 15U rack and cheap deals don't exist for this size.
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>>103250562
>Why?
To build/test iOS/Mac applications
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>>103250752
That's the sole purpose? I mean i kinda get it, but isn't that overkill?
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>>103250794
>That's the sole purpose?
That's the most common purpose and the only way of providing CI/CD to Apple developers.
>but isn't that overkill?
It actually isn't overkill. They could've went with racked Mac Pro's which is exponentially more expensive.
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>>103250879
Thanks Anon! So if I want to actually develop an app for both Android and iOS I won't be able to avoid buying a Mac and an iPhone?
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>>103251092
I know you can virtualize mac os, but it can be hacky and the experience will always be subpar to having a physical device. That said, I believe people do it and are able to write mobile software successfully with xcode and such. For iOS, I don't know if you can emulate it without using a mac (not even sure you can do it with a mac).
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>>103251092
>Thanks Anon!
Anytime anon
>So if I want to actually develop an app for both Android and iOS I won't be able to avoid buying a Mac and an iPhone?
That's more of a dev question and an actual tricky one, here's why:
There are several frameworks that allows to develop applications for Android and iOS simultaneously (like Dart/Flutter for example) such that the same code will compile for both platforms, however, in order to build and test the iOS application you do require at least a Mac (it can emulate iOS devices)
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>>103242909
>>103242919
C9300-24UX (24x mGig copper) with NM-2-10G (2x 10g, 2x 1g SFP+) or NM-8X (8x 10g SFP+). full featured layer 3 switch with UPOE. you can get them for ~$240 on ebay. modules (NM) are separately priced. it's quiet and doesn't use more power than necessary.

also there's no such thing as a power efficient high bandwidth over copper (non DAC) switch.
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Say hi to my new fanless Proxmox node
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>>103252124
And its companion, the new Minecraft server
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Do ZFS scrubs rely heavily on RAM? I have 4 20TB drives in dual vdev mirrors and it took almost 4 days to complete a scrub with nothing needing repair.
32GB is the max my server can have and at least half of that is used by my applications. Scrubbing significantly slows things down and having a slow server for 4 days sucks.
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Terminal just arrived.

What's a good way to integrate it with a server? Like how should I use it as some kind of controller?
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Is there a self hosted solution for managing an e-book library and syncing it to my device?
I've found some library organizers like Lazy Librarian. But the missing link seems to be a way to get it reliably onto the device. I wish e-readers had a server-client architecture, just like Jellyfin for films and TV shows. That would make it so much easier.
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>>103252124
hi
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>>103255568
Calibre, unfortunately
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>>103254118
chuck it in the bin, mate
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>>103252627
i don't think so, i have a 4x20TB RAIDZ1 pool on 8GB system, last scrub took below 18 hours.
How many files do you have on there? `df -i` reports ~11 million inodes on my filesystem.
From what i understand many small files will kill scrub performance, just like they would on any normal workload.
Maybe bigger RAM, L2ARC or metadata vdev can help save some IO on metadata seeks, but there will still be lots of seeking to read actual data.
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>>103255615
After looking into it, I would also have to install Koreader on my devices. I guess it's worth a try.
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I have 3 backups that I want to use 3 different types of backup software on. One backup uses rsync+rsnapshot and one backup uses borg. What should I use for the third backup?
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something like a 5(6/7/8)00x should be more than sufficient for a file server that will also stream and have 1 windows vm for light gaymen, right? with regards to the vm, if I had an x3d cpu could windows make use of it through whatever vm truenas or unraid uses or does windows have to be on the bare metal for that?
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>>103208997
You have to factor in the battery is 12v.
>120v with 50 watts = 0.4 A
>12v with 50 watts = 4.1 A
My gut was to say
>13 hours?! More like 13 minutes
which seems rather accurate.
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>>103252627
if your applications are constantly hammering on the drives too then that'll slow you down by a fuckton for sure. I have a 12 drive setup (24tb raw, 14 usable) running on my 10+ year old amd desktop with 32gb of 1667mhz ddr3 and my scrubs only take about 10 hours, despite the pool being 75% full. but, I only have syncthing and jellyfin for apps which use fuckall ram and io even while being utilized.
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>20 tb drives on sale for 249
Finally. Don't even care if it's not top rpms.
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>>103258078
Where? Which brand?
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>>103258179
best buy, the wd externals.
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Truenas scale or plain linux? I'm mainly going to be using it for storage, jellyfin, and torrenting.
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>>103258481
I use truenas core. it just works and freebsd isnt hard
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>>103250182
beware.
bought some yottamaster 5 bay raid thing, it bricked the data. right from the start, so i could return it though.

if you need reliability, find something else.
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I suck at networking so bad Anons, I've tried so much and keep failing.
I have a protectli vault device, installed opnsense on it. Connected WAN to my modem, I have a switch that has some computers connected to it, which is then connected to the LAN port.
After I figured out how to give LAN Internet by putting the MAC address of the device on the WAN DHCP configuration, I want to get Internet on the next interface, which is OPT1 (next to LAN)
I set a router to AP mode, disable DHCP, give it a static IP like 192.168.10.2. I enable the OPT1 interface, setup DHCP for it, from 102.168.10.100 to 192.168.10.200. The interface OPT1, has the IP 192.168.10.1, where the .2 is on the device itself, since I tried having .1 on both, and nothing happened. But having separate IPs didn't help.
I tried setting up a bridge interface, nothing happened. I made explicit rules to allow all traffic and failed. I don't know what else to try. Is this not a good idea? I can get a DHCP lease when I connect to the AP, I see my phone on the leases for OPT1, but they get no Internet, even though WAN is there.
I did a route to give the 102.168.10.1/24 the WAN_GW, but nothing.
I've given up, I'm sure I'm doing something wrong, but the only way this worked without touching the AP itself was to plug it into the switch that is connected to LAN, which is kind of annoying. I gotta get another switch just for this.
I guess I can use the rest of the OPT# interfaces for LAGG? What do you Anons think?
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If something happens to the OS drive on a ZFS setup, is the whole array fucked, or will it still be readable once the OS and such is reinstalled?
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>>103260943
OS drive typically is a different zpool or might be even a different filesystem. Nothing happens to your NAS zpool, it's metadata is stored on the drives from that zpool.
You could grab those drives and put them in a different system, same deal, just run `zpool import` and your zpool is back.
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>>103261041
Okay, thanks anon. I figured that's how it worked but wanted to check.
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Is it safe to use an SMR drive for just backups? Say just updating a mirror of other drives once a day?
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Is there such a thing as a cheap PCI Express card I can jam into my server to give it hardware video encoding acceleration capabilities without straight up installing a video card?
The mobo of the server I wanted to use doesn't have an integrated video card
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Talk me out of it bros
I already have 2 raspi zeros serving as my file server + photos server + running a bunch of servers I wrote to receive data from the various WiFi gizmos i have made
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>>103261379
Ignore the delivery, that's free I was using a foreign VPN
Why am I so tempted
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>>103228179
>1tb (80% full)
>1tb
>512gb
>512gb
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>>103259040
try recreating the opt ports over again and make the static ip something like 192.168.50.1 and make the dhcp range 192.168.50.2 - 192.168.50.200, copy the existing lan rules to opt1. I dont think you need to set a static ip on the AP cause it should be getting a dhcp address from the opt port instead

it sounds like youre fucking with a lot of shit that doesn't really need to be changed with your other stuff too, if it keeps fucking up just do a factory reset and start from scratch. make sure your modem is actually connected to the wan port. you also keep saying 102.168 make sure that is actually 192.168
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>>103261513
Yeah my bad it's 192, I typoed it as 102. I will test it later today.
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>>103261367
not from this century nor pcie. buy a gt710 or something hella cheap off ebay, something so old or shitty there's 0 chance it was used for mining. I believe some capture cards have encoding / decoding hardware that can be leveraged standalone, but then you're going to be paying far more than for a bottom of the barrel gpu.

>>103261234
I had 3 out of a 4 drive pool of brand new in box from a trusted supplier smr wd 2tb reds start throwing errors and having corruption issues ultimately needing to be rma'd in a literal week after initially transferring a couple hundred gigs after install and just doing windows file history afterwards. I wouldn't use anything with that fucking garbage """technology""" for free.
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>>103262389
ouch, I have a GT610 but the fan was loud and I accidentally broke it when trying to dust it off with a compressor, maybe I should try to replace the fan SOMEHOW instead, but what would the performance of hardware encoding video even be on such an old card?
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>>103259040
this is very unclear.
what router? some other router on the side you're using as an AP? you want the AP to hang off the OPT1 interface and the switch to hang off the LAN interface? then later you want to set up a LAGG of multiple OPT interfaces to the switch? where is the routing happening, on the OPNsense device? you did a route to give the 192.168.10.1/24 the WAN_GW? what does that mean? do you have NAT masquerading set up?

draw a shitty diagram and post it if you need more help. also, make sure you show what the devices are (be specific because AP mode can mean bridging or routing depending on the device type), the subnets, the links.
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it took days but i successfully migrated my btrfs system to new disks and also converted it from a jbod style thing to raid1 for both data and metadata and also upgraded the space cache to the current version. hopefully i wont have to touch it again anytime soon
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>>103262408
pretty damn slow as you might expect. if you actually want some performance (despite stating "cheap" originally...) rather than just the ability, maybe look into Intel gpus. they're extremely inexpensive for what they are, and I think I read or heard that they are excellent for encoding. double check on that through because I could be hallucinating that. I do know however their drivers are... bad... but that's mostly an issue with gaming nowadays and not so much with general workloads. again though, do your research before buying a dud just because 1 fucko on the Internet recommended it.

also it's black friday already on some sites, so you might be able to get a brand new capable card for a half decent price, just make sure you check price histories first to make sure it's actually a sale and not just a different sign/banner with the same price.
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>>103262513
thank you I'll try to go for something that's less than 100 bucks, hopefully less expensive than replacing the whole motherboard, it's from 2011 and it would be a shame to throw it away
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>>103209065
idk i used to have a cheap chink ups that would run my i5 2500k system for hours. officially these things are always rated for something pathetic like 5 minutes but realistically you can do much longer
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>>103262535
I'm actually running on my own ancient hardware, bulldozer to be specific, so I know what you mean. a bit power hungry and definitely no speed demon, but perfectly capable as a file server just chillin in the corner and being a space heater for my office (which wouldn't be so bad if I didn't live in the southwest).
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>>103262389
I'll pay extra for the drives then.
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>>103262774
just check that it supports whatever codec you want. too old gpus wont even support hevc and the latest memes only work on very recent models
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>>103262826
it's worth it. I don't know what it is nowadays, this happened I think it was back in 21 or 22, and the price difference was like $10 for CMR versus SMR. definitely wasn't worth being a cheapskate for that.
sometime later I got a 10 bay case, got rid of the reds and went with 10x4tb blues (again, cheapskate) making for certain it was a CMR model of drive. lo and behold, they have been absolutely perfectly fine for the last year plus now in a z3 pool which as you know ZFS is basically a drive torture test transmogrified into a usable file system.
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this has been a shitty couple of weeks for my home server.

>live with dad who just got google fiber
>cant change settings on the router just by going to the ip address anymore
>have to ask my dad every time i want to forward a port so he can do it through a retarded fiber app

>listening to music on plex from work the next morning
>after 2 hours of normal playback my phone stops loading anything
>try to troubleshoot when i get home
>for some reason my plex account unclaimed the server
>clicking "claim server" displays a throbber icon for a minute then gives up
>attempt every solution i can find online to no avail

>update everything on the server to see if that fixes anything
>check deluge later to add a movie
>the update removed all of my torrents
>manually re-adding thousands of torrents will take hours since my music and tv folders are divided into subfolders
>probably have HnRs on several trackers now

i wish i still cared about server shit because i would've solved everything in an afternoon but now i have other priorities and its just a pain in the ass.
it would probably save time if i just did a clean install of the OS and reinstalled all the software but I can't remember what needs to be backed up.
the video ports also stopped working years ago which is normally fine since i just use SSH but i've never done a headless OS installation before.
at least i can solve one of my issues by buying my dad a new router on cyber monday
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>>103263042
>plex
>music
wtf is this insanity
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Apologies Anon, I haven't gotten to test what the previous Anon at >>103261513 suggested yet, will do in a bit.
My LAN gets Internet just fine, but when I configure the AP the same way I did for the LAN in opnsense, following something like this:
1. set static IP 192.168.10.1/21 for the interface
2. setup DHCP 192.168.10.100 - 192.168.10.200
3. On the AP, login via phone and disable DHCP and setup 192.168.10.1 as the device IP
For #3, I tried 192.168.10.2 as well, but did not work right.
When I connected the AP on the unmanaged LAN switch, it just got Internet without even getting me to login to the AP to set anything up.
Also, for some reason, whenever I setup OPT1 to have 192.168.10.1, OPNsense puts another web UI interface login page for that IP, I don't know how to make it ONLY be 192.168.1.1. I'm assuming via Firewall Rules to specifically not show 192.168.10.1 on port 80/443.
If this setup is not the right way to do this, cause I can't get WAN to give Internet to OPT1, even though in the Routing settings in OPNsense, I setup a route for 192.168.10.1/24 for the WAN_GW, which is a weird external IP (not my actual IP address)
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>>103263122
The LAGG part that I'm thinking is when I get another unmanaged switch, plug interface 1 to LAN, then plug the old unmanaged switch interface 1 to the new unmanaged switche's interface 2, and connect the AP to the new unmanaged switch's interface 3as well.
So, OPT1 to OPT4 would get connected to the new unmanaged switch's remaining interfaces. This will put everything on LAN, and setup LAGG from there in OPNsense?
Note that I have no idea what I'm doing, and have to rely on clicking things, trying, looking around online, and even asking AI like a peasant, which it kind of helps, but it's retarded.
Also, I'm thinking about LAGG, cause it "speeds things up" in a way by supposedly giving more bandwidth per machine in a sense? Unless that's not how it works, and I did not understand this right. (You don't have to explain to be honest, I'll find out eventually)
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>>103263122
>/21
I meant /24. I was trying to spread the netmask to see if anything would work, for example:
192.168.1.1/20 or 21. In /21 we can have something like 192.168.5.1/21, and a range of 192.168.5.100 - 192.168.5.200, but still no luck.
It LEASES, but the device does not get Internet.
it's not a DNS issue either, since it cannot ping IP addresses. Something I'm doing is not right, and I think I should go take a networking course or something.
I look for videos, but all the ones I've seen keep using managed switches with custom software.
Also, perhaps it's that wireless AP. I got that cheap one to test it out, before converting the one I have to AP mode. I've been going back to it when I fail at this. Eventually the goal is to convert my main router to AP mode, since it has 5G.
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>>103263092
i like plexamp, sue me
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>>103263122
>>103259040
I might know what's going on.
Each port of your black router device is an independent ethernet port, meaning that you'd need to create a network bridge between your LAN and your OPT1 port. Or, you could setup OPT1 the same way as LAN, creating essentially a different network.

I have the feeling you're mistaking the ethernet ports on your device as a switch, and it is not.
DESU you could just plug the AP to the unmanaged switch and call it a day unless you have different goals
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>>103263092
>>103263228
Same, has been flawless for me but I've been using the same router for about 10 years now.
I'm also getting fibre soon so I'll be upgrading my router to something with Pfsense.
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I currently have a 16TB HDD with all my media on it. I'm looking at buying 2 or 3 more of them and want to run them in RAID5. Is there a way of doing this while using my current drive and keeping all the data? Can I build the RAID with the new drives, copy the data over then add the old drive into the pool?
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>>103263357
No, you'll have to copy the data elsewhere put all the disks in the array then copy it back.
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>>103263357
not unless you're on unraid
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>>103255977
Not a lot of inodes, less than 5 million for sure. ARC performance seems ok, over 95% hitrate which is pretty good considering my massive jellyfin library is on it. I dunno if l2arc would help anything there.
I should also mention my meager 32gb ram is stretched between 3 pools: proxmox mirrored ssds, main pool, backup pool. That's already with all my applications needing RAM. I'm sure adding more couldn't hurt I just need a full system upgrade first.
>>103257592
This actually seems more likely, I use it like normal during scrubs and I'm constantly writing, reading, snapshotting every 15 minutes, etc. I might try pausing snapshots during scrubs to see if that helps.
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>>103263293
Yeah the opnsense is installed on that black box that has the OPT# ports.
I can alternatively connect this box to my router, but I decided to make it the opnsense firewall and manage my other things from it, instead of using my router.
And yeah, if everything fails, I'm just gonna put the AP on the switch on LAN and call it a day. Let this damn thing work at least, get blocklists and all working, then figure out how to improve it.
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>>103250679
https://sysracks.com/
Anything here work?
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>>103261379
Try eBay. You are likely to find a better deal on those and eBay is a lot better at siding with the buyer of the seller fucks you over
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>>103263595
>>103263293
>>103263122
>>103262467
>>103259040
What the fuck, I got it to work...
I changed the AP's MAC address to the MAC address of the WAN setup using the link/button in the Interface configuration window for the Interface, under the MAC address section that says "Insert my currently connected MAC address (use with care)"
Now the WAN interface and this wifi AP on the OP1 interface both have the same MAC address, even though they are different hardware. What does this mean?
This is my computer's MAC address... Not the router, nor the modem nor the switch. I thought this would be the MAC address of the network device itself, not my workstation, but hell, it works.
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anyone know what kind of ecc ram works with consumer ryzen cpus? apparently you can get ecc dimms cheap af used so it would be pretty sick to have 128gb of ram (if it is slightly slower technically) for like 100 bucks
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TL-SX1005 on Amazon for 229 black friday deal, pretty nice price for a fanless 0db 10gbe dumb switch from a non sketchy brand.

I pulled the trigger
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>>103263042
>ping plex.tv from my server
>Destination Host Unreachable
>try disabling the server's firewall
>Destination Host Unreachable
>try disabling modem's firewall
>google's shitty gfiber app doesn't let you touch the firewall
>call their support
>he tells me where to find the firewall settings
>it's not there
>support guy is confused
>he escalates the issue and i have to wait a week
google retardation aside, i can access the plex website from a different computer on the same network so it's only blocked for the server.
but because disabling the firewall on it didn't do shit and my other network settings are normal i assume the problem is google fiber's firewall.
my theory is that they have their own custom rule that kicks in when it detects a "large" amount of traffic being uploaded so they can push people to their business plan.
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>>103264881
No thanks, I want SFP
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>>103264911
Change the IP of your server
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>server I bought ONLY came with a pair of 1600/1000w PSUs from manufacturer
>description for the refurb site EXPLICITLY mentions the 1600/1000w PSU part number
>what's actually in the server I got are 1000/800w PSUs
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maybe wrong thread for this but what routers do you guys recommend for a beginner?
Preferably something with VLAN that I can use to create a DMZ environment for a server but still keep my home network safe
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>>103265077
>that fixed it
why did that work?
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>>103262879
I'm getting a 1050ti from ebay for around 70 bucks, supports all the H264 and H265 codecs, I suppose the only issue is that it's going to increase my power draw, for now it's between 50 and 124 W, not the worst for its power but even on an Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 860 @ 2.80GHz doing CPU encoding is dreadfully slow
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>>103265612
No idea, I was just guessing.
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If I were to install an SSD for caching, will having DRAM make a significant difference?
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>ports opened in router
>ports opened in server firewall
>public ip
>not behind cgnat
>can't ping with any ping tool
>can't host game servers because they can't be reached, used to be able to just fine
>no clue what i've done wrong
>slowly accepting defeat
why does it hurt so much hsguys...
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>>103263357
technically you can on ZFS RAIDZ1:
>create a sparse file of size 16TB
>create RAIDZ1 pool consisting of 2 new drives and a sparse file
>detach sparse file, pool is still online
>copy all the data over from old HDD to the pool
>once that's done, replace the sparse file with the old 16TB drive
>now you have 3x 16TB in RAIDZ1
it is janky and i wouldn't really recommend it, but i would lie if i said i haven't done the exact same thing myself in the past.
Of course you loose redundancy once you detach the sparse file and until the attached drive fully resilvers, if any of the two drives fail at that time, you'd loose the pool.
A better way to expand is with backup:
>destroy the backup pool, create a new expanded backup pool
>sync backup
>destroy main pool, create a new expanded main pool
>restore data from backup to the main pool
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Fat retard here. Would conversations about alternatives/FOSS to Google Drives be allowed here?
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Refurbished drives y/n?
>>103266236
If you host it on your home server, why not
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>>103266236
>Would conversations about alternatives/FOSS to Google Drives be allowed here?
Certainly, that's under /hsg/ domains
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>>103266388
Yeah, I'm getting a bit of an inch to personally have my own server so I can host a nice backup compared to relying on existing service providers. Think I'm slowly turning schizo
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>>103267139
just let the autism flow anon, don't restrain it, we're here to fuel it
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>>103207836
Ryzen 9000x cpus are designed for Linux servers.
What do you guys think of them?
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>>103267153
You know what? I like this general already. Who knew all I needed was encouragement in autism.
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>>103261367
>>103265651
>>103262535
>less than $100
Just use an Intel arc a310. They are quite compact if that's why you don't want a video card. Pretty cheap for video card standards, though they could be cheaper. Also the best hw transcoding capability for Linux/windows currently available.
>Power draw
It's like 15w max for an encoding workload iirc
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>>103264772
Udimms I believe, it's guaranteed if they are in your mobo's QVL but honestly any UDIMM should work if your mobo supports ecc.
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>>103267809
Actually I just realized, on that platform you won't have resizable bar. It might be a gamble on whether arc works then (I haven't found anyone saying they were able to use it for transcoding with rebar disabled) so the 1050ti might be a safer choice.
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I'm writing this post mostly because I'm not getting anywhere and maybe I can get some opinions on whether this is a bad idea or not.
I'm turning this into a server for media download and processing and a NAS, plus frigate camera processing.
The objective is taking these tasks off my low power servers and improve plex performance, plus I want to start decommissioning my 12 bays QNAP NAS because it's a massive power hog and slow as fuck, I'd like for the applications that need the media to run on the same machine that stores the data.

44W when idle, 130 when under CPU load, which sounded fine but after comparing it to the QNAP it's about the same, perhaps even more as I add a video card for media encoding, but I will gain in performance.

Problems: I have 24TB on the qnap I have to put somewhere, 7.5TB of that is media and about 3TB of it is the touhou lossless collection.

Storage: This is going to get expensive, there's no way around it, I'll have to get drives and do some RAID, but instead of making a massive RAID 5 shared storage I'm thinking I'll do the following:
>Single 4TB drive for the touhou lossless collection
I really don't care if the drive fails because I can just redownload the collection
>2 drives of 4 or 8 TB to form a RAID 2 array
This is for other media like anime, other music, surveillance camera recordings, stuff I don't really care losing if both drives fail at the same time but I can do periodics backups on if I really want to
>2 drives the same as above
Now this is the important stuff, it's the stuff I care about, I'm thinking that dedicating a whole RAID 5 array to it is too much because this WILL need a backup and the bigger and complex this is, the bigger and complex the backup solution will need to be, I'm way better off having a separate as cheap as possible machine to backup this data in real time, maybe have an USB external drive connected all the time to run periodic backups into, I'll figure something out.
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>>103267903
forgot, two SSDs, a 128GB one for OS and a 256GB one to quickly run the media encoding tasks before copying to the larger storage.
The important data storage has to stay under 8TB or it will become too hard and expensive to keep backed up.
If I need more than 8TB... I'll have to add an entirely separate machine, as cheap and low power as possible, but I'll think about that in the future, for now I'm structuring this in a way that makes adding such a machine as little painful as possible in the future.
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Running an old thinkpad (t460) as a home server. Running a personal mediawiki and experimenting with DNS
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>>103267975
fuck forgot the neofetch
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>>103266236
I've been thinking about having a nextcloud or something but the thought of having my backup server open to the internet so my phone can sync when not at home gives me the heebie jeebies.

>>103266388
Enterprise or consumer? I would give it a probably yes and probably not respectively, and I would never consider it if you cannot afford to lose the data that is on them or that data is not kept in an up to date backup in a safe location. if it's who gives a shit data like your steam library that you can just re-download without consequence beyond time, then by all means throw caution to the wind.

consumer, I wouldn't bother unless there is a significant discount over new and a good manufacturer's (not sellers) warranty. if the warranty is less than 12 months, it's not a good warranty. if it's listed in days, turn 360 degrees and walk away. if you decide to go for it, make sure you buy it from the mfg itself or an *authorized* 3rd party, otherwise good luck getting them to honor your warranty when you need it.

enterprise, obviously the best bang for your buck by an untouchable margin. right now you can get used 14tb drives for +/-100 bucks in multiple places, that's fuckin insane. the manufacturer is going to want a premium for their refurbs (if they will even sell to the unwashed masses), so you're probably better off saving 50% or more off what they would want and getting them from any third party. just make sure they're trusted and offer a decent sellers warranty (a year seems common and reasonable) and definitely do smart and surface tests immediately upon receipt for not only the obvious purpose of checking it, but also to put it under stress to hopefully get it to fail if it's going to before it's put into service and fucks you over.
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>>103255977
>>103257592
Similar to other anons. I have (12) 4tb hard drives set up into two 6 drive vdev zfs2 each around 70% full. Have 64gb of ram in my server. 5650g cpu (breddy gud). Each scrub takes around 4 hours, pic related, with a week alternating between each vdev. Truenas Dragonfish latest OS. YMMV.
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>>103267825
well shit, almost everything I found is rdimm. no wonder they're so cheap. eh, I mean for a hundred bucks maybe I'll give it a shot and worst case if it doesn't work I can just resell it.
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>>103267319
>Ryzen 9000x cpus are designed for Linux servers
Are they really?
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>>103268693
Registered memory will NOT function properly. The system might post, but the ECC won't actually work, it'll at best function like shitty, normal RAM.
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>>103268693
Anon rdimm is a different pinout for ddr5, it literally won't fit in the vast majority of consumer motherboards
Even for ddr4 rdimm isn't supported on consumer platforms.
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>>103267319
>Ryzen
I think you should avoid trash marketed towards children and get a real CPU
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>>103268720
>>103268746
god damnit.
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>>103267319
>designed for ... servers
Nope
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Looking at Unraid, would this work?
>boot Unraid from the USB stick
>use an old RX 580 and pass-through an RX 7700 XT to a Windows VM
>bunch of random disks without any consistency in size (although I do understand the largest should be used for parity or some shit, even though I don't really need that)
>host media from the Unraid server through Emby to my friends
Honestly I just need it as a basic server, I don't even need arrays of disks. Can I forgo the parity/array stuff and just serve from a several individual hard drives? And an NVMe disk as host for the VMs.
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>ultra star on sale cheaper than everything else
Did WD ruin them?
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>>103268881
On Unraid you can just use their Docker UI to host Emby/Plex/Jellyfin/whatever and share it with your friends. You don't really need to do anything through a VM.
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dumb question: if you have an everyday consumer router with 4x gbe lan but no link aggregation, and a computer/server that also has 4x gbe but DOES have aggregation, is there any way (ie just plugging all 4 ports from the computer to router, or using an 8+ port switch) to make the router utilize all 4 ports in some form of pseudo aggregation to increase speeds above a single gbe link over lan/wifi, or is it not going to work if the router doesn't explicitly have the ability to aggregate and it's just going to pick it's favorite port and use that for everything?
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>>103269388
It'll probably see it as 4 different connections. If it's a cheap router as well, the total throughput might not be as high as you think, either, like 1.5Gbps max.
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>>103269412
kinda figured that. I wonder though if it might use them independently though, like one port per device or connection or something like that. probably not though, that is an exceedingly rare and niche situation I doubt they would bother writing logic for. also, how cheap we talking?
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Finished racking everything. Thoughts on how to route power to the 100Gbps switch in the center?
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>>103269595
I'd try a power cable first
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>>103269635
I meant how do I route the power cable to the front?
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Network newfag here. I'm replacing my old tp-link router with a chink n100 firewall as my main gateway to the internet. Do I install OPNSense or straight up Debian on it? How painful would the latter be? Would it be viable to run OPNSense virtualized and hard pass the NICs through to it?

I mainly want to set up a few VLANs and a wireguard server (which is why I'm thinking about virtualizing the routing OS in the first place and run wireguard in a separate container). But maybe this can be done just as securely inside a barebones OPNSense installation? I've never tried OPNSense so I'm not sure what it can do on it's own. Or am I being a retard for thinking I can run everything on the same device?
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>2x10G
>pcie 3.0x4
False advertising
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Is everyone here running a business on their server?
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>>103266236
NextCloud is pretty much your only option if you're looking for an all encompassing replacement. It's not as good though.
NextCloud + Immich gets you a bit closer.
In reality, these things are pretty secure. The usual way people are going to break in is via outdated software or default passwords
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>>103270166
3.0 x4 is enough for 2x10Gbit
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>>103270166
Wat?
2x 10 gigabit links equal to about 2.5 gigabytes a second

4 lanes of PCIe 3.0 is about 4 gigabytes a second
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>>103270262
>>103270264
Not enough for full duplex
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>>103270270
pcie is full duplex
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>>103270275
So pci 3x4 can both send and receive 4gigabytes a second simultaneously?
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>>103270289
that is correct
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>>103270289
That's why there are 3.0 NVMe's capable of 3500MB/sec
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>>103270292
Oh okay , so no problem then
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>>103207836
Hi /hsg/, which of the hardware options below should I get, for a decent beginner-level home server (use cases below)?
>multiple Raspberry Pi in a rackmount
>single Intel NUC
>Synology or Qnap NAS

At the moment I only have a single Raspberry Pi 3 B+ running FreePBX as a house intercom system. I do not have any "old laptops lying around", and the rack cabinet we got isn't deep enough for a Dell server.

Use cases we're trying to implement soon:
>centralized server for FreePBX
>Ubiquiti Network Controller. Yes I am a retard as >>103208478 describes
>Plex or Kodi, possibly the latter
>shared network folder, possibly with Samba(?)
>some kind of NVR for 3 cameras, not yet decided to either go with Hikvision or keep consooming from the Ubiquiti ecosystem
>something can accommodate a PoE doorbell
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>>103238664
My "server" (small case pc with lots of drives) often runs very intensive tasks like backups and transcodes etc. I used to run Plex off my main PC but it was always running at like 60% usage so I had to stop Plex when playing some intensive games. But if you don't ever use all your desktop PC's resources you don't really need a server.
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>>103270173
Not any longer, but I used to have a webshop selling trading cards.
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>>103271821
Cool
What was your setup?
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>>103264003
yeah that's not right. you shouldn't do that.
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>>103270754
out of the options above probably the Intel NUC or other small factor PC, Pi is underpowered armshit, Synology/Qnap i don't know, never seen/used one.
If rack mounted server is not an option, how about a tower server/workstation? Tower servers tend to be more expensive than rack mounted ones afaik, but the workstations can be had pretty cheap, and they still come with cool features like ECC RAM, management interface, 3.5" hot swap bays etc.
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should I still buy brick sized HDDs or are SSDs good enough?
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Thoughts on MCIO?
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>>103263707
Oh yeah I saw them in my search but I avoided those... specs are low weight capacity, and when I called in they're shipping from leaf so overpriced shipping to my area. For $100 more, I'd grab this StarTech rack (https://amazon.com/dp/B084HNWVHW) with free Prime shipping but the glass door’s a deal breaker for me desu.

I want something like Claytek WN158 but at reasonable priced used, can't seem to find them (yet).
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>>103272230
I mean that all depends on what you're trying to do. Are you trying to make a cheap but very high TB count array? Then HDDs are the way to go.
Are you trying to make something with very high IOPS? Then SSDs/NVMes might be what you want.
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im a fan of DDL instead of torrenting or other stuff.
right now im using gytmdl and freyr to download music. irc/zlib to download ebooks and either manual stuff from primewire links or lobster to download movies.
are there ways to automate these things?
i know lazy librarian has a irc and zlib/libgen capabilties but i havent managed to get them to run.
are there any good automated ways to download stuff without having to rely on torrenting or usenet?
im looking for solutions that do music, movies, comics, books and mangas as hands off as possible so i can just selfhost them and have them tied to my nas.
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>>103272278
Another fucking meme connector because fuck standardization.
Current list of PCIe capable internal connectors
>mini sas hd sff-8643
>slim sas sff-8654
>oculink
*new*
>Gen-Z MCIO

Not a single one of them implement power either
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>>103265881
did you set up inbound NAT?
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>>103264881
>TL-SX1005
>$229
lmfao a fool and their money
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>>103272884
No, I didn't last time. Should I?
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>>103269595
Damn, the KVM console's screen is failing after sitting for a few months. Was brand new :/
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>>103265672
You sound like our QA lead
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>>103272772
>Not a single one of them implement power either
Should they? Seems more like a job for the PSU
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>>103273181
I just figured after multiple generations there would be some basic 12v and 5v included to get rid of this sata pig tail shit you get on SSD cables
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>>103273314
How do these cables work? Can I use these to plug drives directly into my mobo no hba or chipset required?
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>>103273439
modern SFF SAS connectors can support sata, sas and pcie, the board or HBA will configure itself for whatever is attached.

Not all motherboards support sata on those connectors. Most server boards will just be PCIe, more workstation type boards will sometimes support sata. Have to read the manual for the board
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>>103273439
SFF-8482 or bust, friend.
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>>103273099
I fixed it; took it apart and cleaned the controller's ribbon connection to the panel. Pretty easy.
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I think that caching LVM integrity arrays now works in Rocky 9 and is currently working on my array but I'm not confident of either because the LVM tooling and RHEL docs are so awful
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so I have 30TB on a regular motherboard booting to mint. What distribution should I switch to so I can have fewer problems streaming video (sometimes .avi won't have audio, weird shit)
Also, any tips on how to SSH into a computer that's running the nordvpn client? I have no networking understanding and it's a brick wall for me.
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>>103271947
But my ISP doesn't want to give me an IP address if I put my router's MAC address. Only my machine. Is my ISP botnetting me?
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>>103267903
>2 arrays +1 drive
I would just shove everything in one array of RAID 5 or 6, if you want the touhou seperate that is your choice. You could also do RAID 10, though that might be more annoying that 5 or 6
If anything rebuild time would be your greatest issue
You will also possibly want write-hole protection
>video stuff
A graphics card might do you some good
>>103274839
Have you tried VLC?
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I'm having a peculiar issue with jellyfin. This only happens when I play anime/animated content, and not when I watch live action shows. Checked logs and nothing seems to be out of the ordinary. I'm accessing jellyfin through LAN.

Is animated content inherently more CPU intensive? Looking at my dash it says all my cores are being used when I watch animated/anime content, but not with live action.

CPU is i5-10500 if that makes a difference.
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>>103275816
Are the codecs the same between the live action shows and the animated content?
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>>103275822
From a sample live action episode, the codec is AVC, and a sample an anime and animated tv show episode shows HEVC.

Quickly googling it shows HEVC requires "...more powerful hardware...".
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>>103275874
>HEVC
That's why. What's going on is that your system is likely transcoding the file since Jellyfin HEVC implementation is highly dependent on the client/OS. For example, if I try to play Robocop in Firefox on Windows 11, it's not going to be very happy about that since there's no support for it with my browser:
https://jellyfin.org/docs/general/clients/codec-support/
Therefore it will try to transcode to h264. Which is very expensive on the CPU if you're not doing hardware transcoding. Your CPU supports quick sync, just make sure that you've enabled it in Jellyfin properly and you should see much less CPU usage. Either that or switch to a client that allows you to use HEVC directly so there's no need to transcode anything. On my computer I usually play back content with MPV and on my phone I use Finamp. Both can play HEVC directly.
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>>103275874
If you haven't already, look into passing through your GPU or integrated GPU into your Jellyfin container (if you use a container) so you can do hardware accelerated encode/decode. About an hour with ChatGPT holding my hand got me through it. It was a little bit of a pain in the ass though when it came to figuring out exactly what codecs my iGPU supported for that specific intel chip. Intel does have documentation for that, though.
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>>103275816
Sub transcoding inst hardware accelerated so burning sub's into the video is done by the CPU .
You can easily fix this problem by either only watching dubs , learning Japanese or grow up and stop watching tranime
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>>103275950
I didn't realise it wasn't enabled by default, but reading the docs for the docker image I'm using hinted on how to enable it. It works fine now, CPU usage is between 8-12%, which isn't as good as with live action, but I can live with it. Thank you for your help!
>>103276008
Cope
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wow you should go wireless for the cloudt
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>>103275454
it won't even open on whatever distribution I have installed right now. i guess i'm going to have to just put another one on there but i don't know what i should be shooting for, or what "server support" means in this context, you know?
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>>103271939
Custom software, backend running on Node and frontend written using React. I work as a software developer, so it was easy to setup for me. And PayPal as payment method.
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>>103277878
Did you run it out of an old pc, or a fully fledged server?
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>>103278062
I had a server running proxmox already, just spun up two additional VMs on it (postgres + the webapp itself) and placed them on their own separate, isolated VLAN.



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