We're NEVER gonna have exotic hardware experiments ever again, are we? What went wrong? Why did IBM scam Sony and then give a prototype to Microsoft for free?
>>103213541I'm holding out hope that the chinks will release a RISC V console at some point. Something small and energy efficient.
>>103213541>Why did IBM scam Sony and then give a prototype to Microsoft for free?No. IIRC there was no exclusive deal between sony and IBM for the PPC core that was inside the Cell BE. IBM offered it to MS to use in the Xenon CPU and that's that. All in all, Sony got a single core CPU with a bunch of very fast vector cores whereas MS got a tri core CPU that was more typical to developers at the time.
It's because lessons were learned from the experiments that did take place. Exotic hardware = exotic instruction sets = exotic (non-existing) documentation. And crazy exotic hardware is useless without
>>103213595IIRC it wasn't even like IBM offered Microsoft the PPC cores. In their agreement with Sony, IBM was allowed to use the technologies they were developing for Cell in their other products, so they had those technologies listed in their roadmap of upcoming features in PowerPC, and Microsoft liked the look of them.
>>103213541how many mars bases humanity would've colonised by now, had that race possesses IQ high enough to program for this chip?
>>103213541holy fuck this thread again???
>>103213541Okay we get it faggot you love (in)CELL/BE(yourself)Then maybe try and write some soft to make it relevant. Maybe some emulator based garbage like Batocera Linux but for PS3 only, idk
>>103213981>Then maybe try and write some softIf he did, his love for it would perish, as he'd realize why it ultimately failed first hand.
>>103213595So they literally fucked over a japanese company, to promote an american company that was too late in consoles market? With Sony's money, they funded nice features on PPC, and packed a tri-core version for Microsoft who paid $0 money for its R&D? Biggest cuckstory
>>103213541>We're NEVER gonna have exotic hardware experiments ever again, are we?It's called Apple Silicon / Snapdragon X
>>103214932Sony mainly wanted muh SPEs and did not care much about the PPE you fucking retard
OP loves repetition because he is autistic, please understand.
>>103216722lmao based autist
>>103216722OP here, fuck I've really gotten old. Turned 31 last week, I started spamming this after starting my first job. Time goes by so fast.
>>103216499Lol, haven't seen that one yet.
>>103216983>14k pageswtf fr no cap on god??
>>103217168It's so large that Firefox can't handle it. It used to cut off after about page 12,000, but after an update it just doesn't let you scroll at all.
>>103214932IBM didn't fuck over anyone, m8. They just did what was asked of them and that was to design a custom cpu for a game console.
>>103213541It wasn't THAT exotic. The PS2 was way more ad-hoc than the PS3.
>>103213541>We're NEVER gonna have exotic hardware experiments ever again, are we?No and I hate it
>>103213541> posting the same thread since 2016https://desuarchive.org/g/search/image/SHrWeaTAmaU3o-gioFWu3Q/what a fucking schizo spamming faggot.
>>103218342Why are people like this? I could understand spamming this a few times, or maybe a month, but how mentally ill do you have to be to do it for 8 YEARS?
>>103218356>Why are people like this?severe and untreatable mental illness is why.
>>103213595The Xenon CPU also got a bunch of extra vector instructions, so all in all it was easier to use and just as fast as the Cell. What made it much better was the faster GPU and unified memory though.>>103214932No, Sony fucked themselves up. The original PS3 had a different GPU. The Cell SPUs were meant to transform vertices for the GPU and do nothing else, and the GPU was just an ultra fast rasterizer. But the old GPU was too large to manufacture (reportedly Toshiba was meant to fab it but couldn't handle it), and could not be made cheaper without making it unable to compete with the 360. After that they tried using a second Cell as the GPU, but that just did not work.That's when they went to Nvidia for a solution and got a GPU with built in T&L, which left the Cell SPUs orphaned. They then struggled to come up with new use cases for it since the silicon was already done.So basically the original PS3 was a PS2 on steroids (3x vector units, faster pixel rasterizer), just like how the PS2 was a PS1 on steroids (twice the vector coprocessors, the GPU was 16x PS1 GPUs working in parallel). But it was too ambitious to fab and Microsoft was ahead of them with the Ati GPU. Sony had to scramble in the last second and the PS3 ended up as a frankenstein monster that was also power hungry and very slow. 360 outclassed it in every way.
>>103218356it's probably just a bot
What about Itanium? What made it so bad?
No need for much innovation. The market is mostly saturated. Economy is bad in general (tax, regulation, inflation). If theres not some radical new tech, I dont see demand for any newsloppa
>>103213541Larrabee is more recent than Cell, shouldn't you be using that instead?
>>103218356It's just as bad on /a/
>>103213541>We're NEVER gonna have exotic hardware experiments ever again, are we?There's at least 4 exotic CPU architectures being developed right now, 2 of which don't even use transistors
>>103219443Itanium was stillborn. It relied on explicit instruction level parallelism and they had to build everything up from scratch on a compiler level so it can work with the new silicon.This meant that it took a ton more work to get it working and gave worse results than a x86 chip with out of order execution (ie. built-in instruction level parallelism via a longer pipeline and branch prediction).it also wasn't x86 compatible at a time when every server was transitioning to x86. Intel wanted the market that DEC Alphas and MIPS and such chips had, but Itanium was late by a few years and those chips already got phased out since.AMD64 pretty much killed the only thing that made Itanium useful (64-bit support). HP had a huge investment in it so the kept funding Intel to release newer chips for 15 years (this is cheaper than switching tons of proprietary crap to completely different archs, it's the same reason why a Internet Explorer 5.5 mode kept being integrated in Windows even in 2020 - some intranet apps required it).
>>103218356Wait till you discover that every thread is like this
>>103218356half of /g/ has been recurring generals for 10+ years, are you asking seriously?
