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>europoor
>work at le big international company
>everyone has to participate in the english course
>first question is always "how was your weekend?"
wtf do i do if i don't want to kms yet?

>>103224658
>My weekend was fine. How was yours? :-)

I am behind on my tickets but I don't want to work this week.

>>103224658
>getting paid to sit through remedial english lessons that he can already ace easily
>get to laugh at his normalfag countrymen as they struggle with the english course because they didn't spend 12 hours a day on 4chan for the last 10 years
sounds comfy to me

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>be machine learning company, potentially interested in long-term reservation of their top-tier GCP compute machines
>have questions, couldn't find all info in documentation, contact GCP sales
>their shitty sales chat disconnects 90% of the time
>sales consultants are EXCLUSIVELY indians, with English so abhorrent that they couldn't even understand my questions or would respond with bullshit
>one was kind enough to get back to me by e-mail, only not to reply anyways
the fuck is Google doing? It's not some tech support chat, this is fucking sales, is this how they treat their customers?

I just want some low-effort task where I get enough money to survive and I don't have to spend 7 hours per day in a wagecage
Why is this so hard man

>some kind of conference with an AI consultant
>seems completely banal
>check his linkedin
>MBA, of course
>took him 7 years to graduate for a 3 year degree somehow
>no verifiable job experience in 10 years, can't find most companies at all, and can't find him listed as an employee for his current job
>has had 2 concurrent "full time" jobs for 3 years at one point (not sure if this is some kinda anti CV scraper bot lifehack)
i kinda want to kick the hornet's nest and start sending emails but every fiber of my being tells me i should steer clear and just let it be

>>103224953
>>took him 7 years to graduate for a 3 year degree somehow
Why the FUCK would anyone list it like that?
I would just straight up lie about the dates.

>>103224831
annual spend?

>>103224976
not sure, but i mean, i consider the "2 full time jobs at the same time" as even more of a red flag

anyway i dug in more, and without going into details, i am about 90% sure this guy is a fraud. none of his work history makes any sense and it seems like his references are just his friends who he is referring back in turn, and who also have dubious work history. this shit is super freaky

>>103225051
I mean isn't calling yourself "AI consultant" just zoomer lingo for "scam artist"

For every tech job opening, there is currently a huge pool of applicants comprising of VISA jeets, bootcampers, zoomer graduates, greybeards and remote workers. How is this sustainable?

>>103225093
No one knows, anon, but worry not, Trudeau is smiling and ready to come to the rescue and fix things.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOB7-dbYuCc

>>103225093
Amerimmutts forcing other countries to take refugees

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>monday

>>103225090
well yeah but i mean, you can be a wall staring consultant and not be a fraud, even if your field is useless. but it turns into some psycho shit when you start fabricate 10 years worth of work history

>>103225093
i mean, it's not necessarily that bad. it's just that whenever the usual number of available jobs exceeds the usual number of applicants by even like 20%, things turn retarded. make no mistake, this field is about 70% bullshit jobs even when the economy is good, so that's not the issue. the issue is that the fed can't print more money and stimulate economic activity because all the previous money they printed went into things that caused inflation and made the economy retarded. basically all we can do for now is hold on and wait for the dumbfucks in charge to try to deflate asset prices so they can print more money again, which probably won't happen, and instead the elected trump-equivalent in each country will probably go the populist route and just print more money and punt the problem down a couple of years again

>>103224605
What do I do if I'm genuinely fucking stupid?

People I knew from high school went to MIT and Berkeley and already have startups or are obviously smart enough to do whatever they want. Meanwhile I went to a shitty liberal arts school and barely took any math. I'm not really good at or knowledgeable about anything. Somehow I have a good job that's fully remote and have held that down for like 3 years now. It's not FAANG but it's tech company at least.

Legit what the fuck can I even do to move forward? I was thinking about just doing shitcoin rug-pull scams until I crack $1M and then forget I ever got into this industry and live off of investments. However, I've been getting good at leetcode so maybe I can somehow parlay this into a job at FAANG and solidify my career? Idk if that's even possible because my work experience is lame and I don't have any connections.

someone hook a nigga up with a wfh helldesk job im bored
here's my resume
2 years of helldesk experience
an accent only native english people can detect
extremely white
autism (the funny and skillful kind)
extremely girly hands

>>103225216
if you are genuinely fucking stupid as you say, maybe consider that, in a recession, it might be a bad idea to give up a good, stable remote job in favor of going for shitcoin rugpull memes or scam your way to a FAANG job where they will inevitably pipfuck you out of existence.

>>103225216
>I have a good job that's fully remote
Fuck off I hope you drop dead. Fucking faggot.

Has anyone ever seen a junior surpass their seniors? As in starting with the same title then quickly getting more responsibilities? I'm currently seeing this at work, junior isn't as technically skilled as the seniors (obviously) but they're so much better at communicating that people prefer working with them. It's pretty strange.

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>>103225519
>It's pretty strange.
It's the opposite of strange. It happens everywhere. Leadership qualities and working well with others beats being aloof, even if the aloof guy is slightly better than the others at his bullshit job.

>>103225519
that kinda happened to me at my first job. i graded his work as if it were my own, and since his work had a lot of errors, well, you know how it is. i didnt even realize until later it was a severe loss of face for him

I'm not going to do any work again this week.
Just PIP me from my 160k TC role please so I can deathspiral.

>>103225121
>leaves had "a serious talk" with trudeau
lmao, and quite literally as i'm scrolling through my linkedin, i see an ad about migrating to canada
t. thirdie

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>Job searching
>Dad: "Anon, my friend Chad is pretty high up at [big tech company]. I can ask him about getting you a job there if you want."
>Nah, I want to do this on my own, be a self-made man, etc.
>Two months later
>Okay yeah I am hopeless in this job market, time to swallow my pride
>Hey dad could you ask your friend about getting me a job?
>"Who? Oh, Chad? I haven't talked to that guy in years, sorry."
bro...

>>103225967
>I want to do this on my own, be a self-made man, etc.
retarded ngmi

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>>103224605
Is there ANY company where software isn't held together by duct tape and prayers?
I am so sick of this shit.
>look at backlog
>500 million bug tickets

>>103224831
It's Indians all the way down.
t. knower

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>showed my offer letter to my BPD supervisor this morning
>expected her to go psycho bitch mode
>instead she gave me the "I don't want to lose you, certainly not because of money, let me see what I can do to match this offer"
This feels like a trap, right?

>>103225967
>Nah, I want to do this on my own, be a self-made man, etc.
men are so retarded, look at the state of you

>>103225216
First, you gotta believe in yourself. Then yes, you should leetcode your way into FAANG (see, you're smarter than you think, anon).

>get call
>yes sar duyu wan jub operdunty ples sar yes?
>new job in your state dublu new job in the dubldidoo?

I immediately hang up in these fuckers faces, why the FUCK would I allow you pakis to speak to the hiring manager if I can't fucking understand you. I don't give a fuck if they are trying to set me up with an unlimited PTO 200k job, if they sound like they eat with their hands off the ground stop fucking talking. If they're indian I fucking hang up.

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>>103226105
>supervisor
>her

>>103226124
She's fine as hell, too. Unfortunately she is batshit insane

>>103226105
She's going to fuck you bro.

>>103226105
Treat it like it could be at any step.
Don't let the new company wait too long. give the supervisor a clear deadline. and don't believe anything she promises you unless it is in writing.

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>>103224779
>>103224953
>>103225051
You will never be a real programmer. You have no commits, you have no pull requests, you have no public repos. You are a low IQ brown man twisted by an unearned comp sci degree and coding bootcamps into a crude mockery of nature's perfection.

All the “validation” you get is two-faced and from bots. Behind your back people say you're a useless DEI hire. Your parents are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “tech bros” laugh at you behind closed doors.

Real programmers are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of forum posts have allowed programmers to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even devs who “pass” have no creative output and excessively verbose with AI generated tech buzzwords. Your GitHub profile is a dead giveaway, and even if you manage to score a 3 month internship at a tech company, they'll turn tail and bolt the second they find out that you haven't completed any non school related projects.

You will never be happy. You cope by saying that your bullshit software is using a "proprietary test framework" so you can't open source it, but deep down you know it's because you don't want people to see your incompetence where all you did was update the readme over and over, and that the core of your software is an open source project which you're shamelessly profiting off.

Eventually it will be too much to bear. You'll buy a google gift card, a spoofed business phone number, and start scamming old people into redeeming.

This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.

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>>103226120
I will believe in myself, thank you anon.

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>>103225519
happens all the time.

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>>103226130
>She's fine as hell, too

Pretty sure my manager knows I'm handing in my resignation today and is doing everything possible to delay our 1 on 1 meeting.

>europoor
>boss moves to the US
>find his address
>find his house on Zillow
>his estimated monthly mortgage is more than my salary
humilation ritual

>>103224658
>another quiet weekend at home anon? that's very nice every now and then jejejejej

>>103225996
Not mine, that's for sure.

>>103225996
>he doesn't know tech companies intentionally introduces bugs and then "fix" them in order to farm working hours.
ngmi

>>103226105
go with extreme caution. i had a similar situation before, got a really nice offer from a company i wanted to work at and told my current company i was quitting. they promised me a quick promotion and pay bump and begged me to stay, to which i DID. despite doing a really good job, i never got the promo or the pay bump. it's been years now and i still never got the promo. just pick the place you want to work at and go, especially if you are fed up with your current situation

>better music
>computers were just terminals no AIshit or nvidia graphics wars
>you will never be california dreaming in 1960s los angeles

unix and BSD were a mistake

>>103226105
>have a BPD supervisor
>have an offer somewhere else
Is the offer that bad that you didn't just immediately take it?

>>103226368
He's addicted to the bpd abuse, getting another offer and throwing it away is just part of the game.

I did my first pull request on a big project then a few days later it got no attention from devs (just user questions) so I felt bad and unsubbed from notifications
I would delete it if I could but I don't think you can on github
idk if I fucked up because I just fixed the bug in a very direct way (just a few lines of code) and deleted a massive chunk that wasn't useful anymore
maybe that wasn't proper etiquette or some shit
also used my real name which makes it even more cringe and now I have paranoid ideas about what if an interviewer brings up that pull request and asks me why I abandoned it or why I thought it would be a good idea to commit such a shit fix

fuck

>>103226105
>>103226327
yea pretty much it's usually "if you were going to, you would have" unless proven otherwise. the only time i'd prefer to retain a position over a better offer is because it has a greater advantage in the long run (better for CV)

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>>103226425
>and deleted a massive chunk that wasn't useful anymore

>>103226425
>interviewer brings up that pull request
i guarantee no interviewer is ever going to pull up your github except to maybe verify it exists and has green blocks on it

>>103226497
what's so funny, happens all the time

>>103224953
>>has had 2 concurrent "full time" jobs for 3 years at one point (not sure if this is some kinda anti CV scraper bot lifehack)
how would this work exactly?

>>103226368
I'm not such a baby that I can't deal with her bullshit. The offer could obviously be better but I have to relocate so getting the same pay without moving is a win.
>>103226419
Shhhh...

>>103226425
Your PR should do one thing, only ever one thing. You're fixing something and see something else? Leave it alone, open another PR if you want, or better yet, forget you saw it.

>>103226425
>it got no attention from devs (just user questions) so I felt bad and unsubbed from notifications
what is your skin color?

>>103226576
as an anti CV scraper thing? i assume the line of reasoning is that the bot/person reading the CV will just add the YoE without considering overlapping line of work

in practice? it probably doesn't, you can't *really* work on 2 full time jobs at once as an MBA. you're always putting one job on the backburner, at which point it's not full time job.

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I'm the only 30+ y/o sperg at work that has no kids and never had gf, so they always ask me to be on call during holidays or national holidays because they assume I have nothing to do. I would like to say no, but the pay is good.

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>>103225153
>monday

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>>103226912
free money for being an incel. many such cases.

>>103226912
when you die, old, single and alone you will appreciate the extra work you did.

>>103226271
>find his address
how

>>103226958
we're gonna die old, single, and alone anyway
might as well make more money to retire sooner

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I recently won the DV lottery (basically lucked out and got a green card). I have never really followed these threads or any other trends about the state of the industry so I'm kind of in the dark about what it's like, since I'm seeing a lot of doomposting about the job market in the US right now.
I have about 10 YoE, mostly as a soft eng but now I'm working a senior DevOps role. What salary should I expect with this kind of experience?
Is California still as lucrative as it used to be to work in? What other states should I look into?
What is the WFH situation? Can I realistically find a well-paying remote job?

>>103227118
did you already finish the entire process?
what was the interview like?

>>103227118
HEY /TWG/, HE'S GONNA TAKE YER JERB

Anyone have issues with ALWAYS saying the wrong thing at work? Trying to fix it and I'm always panicking but I always feel not prepared for anything.
>Boss sends me an email that suggests approves move to production
>Tell junior we're good to push to production
>boss says in meeting to hold
>already pushed to prod
>coworker asking me if x can be done
>go check the documentation
>see that it can't be done
>say no
>weeks later it can actually be done
like god damn it i always feel caught in these tongue biting scenarios.
>stakeholder says they're doing x
>tell boss they're doing x
>other stakeholders ask
>turns out they're doing x in a very specific scenario and not the one we're thinking of
ahhhhhhhhhhh

what have i become
my sweetest friend

>>103227153
oh yeah that shit happens to me all the time. i think it's because i want to be helpful and give an answer and then move on. you should probably try to be more skeptical of info. what i usually do is link out to refer to where i got the answer from, i.e. according to _xyz link_, it says that it's not supported.

>>103227138
Not yet but I have one scheduled soon. So far there's a shitton of documents to gather and bureaucracy to do. There's always the chance that I'll get rejected for whatever reason (tho it seems pretty low considering I fill out all their checkboxes) but I wanna start doing my research now.

>>103227153
Going by what you've said, you're not saying the wrong thing at all. You are relaying information that happens to be incomplete.
All you really have to do is CYA with an "As of now/the documentation says/Mr. so and so reported/as far as I know... blahblahblah". Just make it clear where you obtained the information, then update whoever you told whenever you get updated.
Always leave yourself some wiggle room and, if possible, name a patsy.

Should I apply as a "performance engineer"?
Got an offer, but I'm a fullstack dev
Is it like QA?

>>103227208
did you do the medical exam already?
what was that like?

>>103227256
you got an offer but you don't know what the job is? wtf.

it's making things go fast.

nigger

>>103227186
>>103227216
ughhh my boss never catches me on the inconsistency but i can tell he's like "this fucker definitely said they were doing x....".

now im in the dog house because a stakeholder is asking me why project x wasn't done like three months ago because my dumbass was waiting for him to give me the green light (but in retrospective i've never asked for the green light so fair point on him). man....i just want to stop fucking up. but in my defense defense, the stakeholder only asked is feature X possible and I'm like "yeah i've put it in QA". i didn't know he wanted it in prod god damn itttt

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>work at a big international consultancy
>new project requires us to use OpenAI models with RAG
>one of the coveted Lead Data Consultants is helping me to gather data for it as she is apparently a domain specialist
>she takes a week to produce a list of six links to websites
>literally just the fucking first page of a simple search of the topic
>really tries to dress it up by saying how these are the BESTEST AND RELIABLEST sources
>obviously completely clueless about entry-level LLM concepts and how these models work
>regularly gets flown around the world to attend conferences and her calendar is basically full of paid dinners and customer visits
>over the hill now, but was probably a smoke-show 15 years ago
>probably easily makes over 200k in Europe based on the salary band data I have seen very recently

HELLO FROM KAZAKHSTAN

this industry is turning me into a real woman hater

i hate webshite so much

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I HATE WEBSHIT I HATE WEBSHIT

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>>103228237
her next linkedin will be about imposter syndrome, and will be praised as being brave

Are all companies nobody really takes charge of their projects and just point fingers when things go wrong?

>>103228760
esl

>>103228777
checked

>>103226114
nta but hes a man of honor

I'm still being spammed on LinkedIn by "recruiters" who misread my profile and think I'm a cloud engineer because I work at a company that sounds like a cloud service. Worst part is that they insist that I reply.

>>103228831
oh well if they insist you're gonna have to reply to them

>>103227528
omg he didn't even complete the sign off so it wasn't even a me problem, why the fuck did he point fingers at me????

>>103228777
Oh sorry I made a typo, can we not go into /v/ tier territory in shouting brown at each other because he who smelt it dealt it.

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Sup boys, I got promoted recently! Rate my total comp (522k)

>>103229081
good work dude

>>103229081
what do u do?

>>103229081
hiiii daddy~ >_<

>>103229081
what do you do with that money, are you a single male?

Am I going to get non responses as I start my job search today? With the holidays coming up and everything?
Realizing I missed the boat not starting beginning of October but I don't want to doom about it.

>>103229081
>36 months
You will be pipped before then.

>>103229092
Software eng at a faang company

>>103229107
I put it in my investment account and count the days until retirement (1.5 years maybe)

>>103229090
Thanks. It only costed years of my life, all my hobbies and my physical + mental health.

>>103229143
I got 4 straight quarters of high performer bonuses (+$106k in stock, not included in the promo grant), I think I'm pip proof unless I seriously drop the ball or something.

>>103229161
>It only costed years of my life, all my hobbies and my physical + mental health.
And was it worth it? You're just saving it up.

>>103229161
>Thanks. It only costed years of my life, all my hobbies and my physical + mental health.
Which drugs did you abuse?

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What the fuck is taking this background check so long?
Looks like my start date will be pushed back to mid December at the earliest now. I might as well just wait till next year...
I WANT TO START CODING

>>103229178
It will be worth it when I retire and never have to work again. AI will take all our jobs in 5 years anyway

>>103229190
First weed, then alcohol, then both. Also for a while it was candyflipping, but I got everything under control earlier this year

>>103229206
I meant performance enhancers like adderall, but if you're natty I'm impressed

How many times does this happen to you?
>Get an email
>"WOW THIS GUY IS A FUCKING ASSHOLE"
>get a call from him
>he's a lot more chill and we're having good discussion
the fuck?

>>103229233
normies in text are like autists in speech

>>103229233
every day? Because people will be ruder by text but they will calm the fuck down once you call them.

>>103229161
>Software eng at a faang company
what kind of software do u write?

>>103228754
>implying that that the men are more skilled
good morning sar

>>103229242
>>103229237
maybe i just take shit way too personally through email especially when they cc everyone under the sun....

>>103229252
my bet is on javascript frontend shit

Does your company require you to be a team player and always stand with your service? As in, will you get in trouble if you bad mouth even a little bit a coworker from the same service and you all have to stand together if one person does something retarded? Trying to see if it's the norm or not.

>>103229273
>my company
>implying i have a job
loooool no brother im spending this evening getting drunk as usual

We had a third world retard CC all the directors and complain that his job was too much for one person and he needed them to open a new position to help him. That guy is just a grunt that changes batteries, literally. Haven't heard from him in days now.

>>103229273
yes you fucking dumbass.
you can let things slip if they're chill but otherwise you endorse company as a worker you dumbass.
like lmao what type of dumbshit question is this?

>>103229314
nigga why are you seething so much

>>103229326
because it's a stupid fucking question. like jesus fucking christ, why do you retards ask the dumbest fucking shit

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>on work trip
>coworker i was supposed to share rooms with isn't coming and i have the entire room to myself

nice

>>103229218
Oh, caffeine in significant amounts

>tell my supervisor I've been offered a job elsewhere
>"I wish you had told me you were looking"
Like what good would that have done? Give you more time to find my replacement?

>>103229270
>>103229252
Android (kotlin)

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Just gave my 2 weeks' notice. My manager did everything he could to try and keep me and I said no thanks. I've got the entire month of December off now and I am no longer demoralized.

>>103226720
>as an anti CV scraper thing?
yeah that's what i meant. your explanation makes sense, but i still don't know how having more yoe makes your profile less likely to be scraped

>>103229449
I have never taken time off between jobs except for one time when I got unexpectedly fired. And even then I busted my ass to get hired within the week (which worked) because I had bills to pay.

>>103229464
>imagine not having savings

>>103229081
>>103229161
nice one anon!
any plans for your retirement?

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>>103226912
>company outing
>everyone is whining about their wifes and kids as if it's the worst thing ever
yeah, that must suck, right? haha...

>>103229161
hello chang

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>>103229563
all my coworkers got divorced since meme flu wfh

>>103229563
>>103229587
Separation is important for couples, which is why WFH can be bad for relationships. As the saying goes, how can I miss you if you don't go away?

>>103229623
there are many couples in my company, they all seem to be doing fine

>>103229391
oh, i think i would refuse to go on a work trip if i had to share a room. no fucking way, what is this, freshman year of college or something?

>>103229650
I'm 28 and yet to fuck.

2 interviews tomorrow I should prep for but im only thinking and worrying/waiting on follow up from the one I had on friday

>>103229485
Gonna relaxxxx
And play Vidya. Maybe get into working out or doing hobbies, isk. Might read books or watch movies

>last month I was a 30 year old ditch digger with a GED, borderline homeless, going days between meals

>this month I am fully remote work from home on the product support team of this cool ass software and I'm going on a trip to Europe for training next month

Guys life change so fast, I was a hillbilly my entire life and one day couldn't take it anymore.

My parents are arguing over weed again.

Haven't built anything since I left my job in June. My brain has completely disintegrated, it's like my IQ has dropped by 20 points

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>>103224605
Americabros, how's the job market in the States, especially for frontend shitters?
>t. Europoor about to immigrate

>>103230218
I am >>103230056


I have a very heavy Appalachian accent and a GED and was hired by an older white woman in California

I have no projects, in this position it is assumed I can pick up any new language in a weekend.

>>103230218
it's triple fucked. not sure how you don't know that

>>103230286
You guys make me feel so lucky and had me spooked as fuck but all it took was knowing the right buzzwords to slap onto a resume and then knowing the right times to smile and laugh while on teams

chatgpt does anything hard

>>103229450
>but i still don't know how having more yoe makes your profile less likely to be scraped
i meant that it might be advantageous to have an AI (or a HR person who is really bad at math) determine you have 13 YoE despite only working for 10 years

>>103230246
Did you score that position via Indeed? LinkedIn? Congrats in any case!!!
>>103230286
I've mostly been focusing on German dev jobs, but taking a look at American LinkedIn has me pretty disoriented. Can't see a lot of jobs that fit my profile.
Maybe I'll just become a plumber or a lineman or something

>>103230246
To add to this I found this company on my own and just sent them an email and they only hire through LinkedIn

Again, I have no projects my max is talking about programming concepts as if I find them interesting(I don't)

>>103230353
Answered some of your questions here before I refreshed page and saw your post >>103230357

Even if I get fired I don't even fucking care because I've seen the inside. I've seen how this shit works now. If I fuck this up I can come back 10 times stronger with an acknowledge of how to navigate this environment.

I've already won.

>>103230371
with a knowledge*

I am drunk and I'm not sorry about it

>>103230353
What is your profile?

I am a chatgpt psuedo-intellectual and speed run all things in my life and this is how I see it

they want
>the basic computer knowledge, duh
>database know-how
>script-kiddie know-how
>you dont say mean things to people
>you say the 10-20ish terms that they want to hear, generally terms that directly reference the software stack that they use

so say to them
>Linux, sql, docker, kubernetes, python, javascript, and a few others for good measure just say those silly words like you love them sprinkle them in somewhere

>>103230422
I don't see them asking for the technologies I'm actually acquainted with. I have 8 years in the industry now. Mostly frontend, but I can spin up a whole fullstack app on my own. Sold apps too.

I wish I had your confidence! I'm either looking in the wrong places, or I got the wrong mindset. What do you suggest; lying on the resumé, bullshitting during the interview?

>>103230462
I learned 10s of thousands of pages of info in literally a week I am kind of a weird person

but I think for certain you need to craft an ecosystem of knowledge that fits into the company you are applying for without any resistance, at least on a surface level

Just buzzwords for the most part

>>103230494
>>103230462
Also yes lying, imagine chatgpt as your cyborg interface, this is just how things are, this is not a moral problem, you just have robot help for all questions

>>103230505
>>103230494
>>103230422
A little more detail on how I got my job

It was originally just a pajeet tier data entry job but they jumpscare promoted me after conversations with me, out of the blue a high up guy asked me every comp sci question you could imagine and I had chatgpt up for every question LOL

now I'm going to Belgium, not bad for an Appalachian middle school drop out

How do I explain a five year gap in my employment? I pretty much just played vidya and coded mods for some games after I saved up a lot of money from my last job. I'm planning on putting all the code I wrote for mods on Github so potential employers can browse through it.
Would it be easier to get a job if I lied and said I toured the world or helped a sick relative? I could still say I coded as a hobby.

>>103230555
lie you fucking moron what the fuck is wrong with you fucking lieeeeeeeeee

just lieeeeeeee these people are standing between you and a meal you fucking pussy

>>103230555
sounds like you were running a game dev business with a few choice industry experts but sadly it didn't pan out due to the realities of the industry

>>103230555
You got 10x the experience I do the only difference is nuts

An arab once told me something about camels that changed how I saw everything. You swing a twig at a camel, and it sees it as if it is a sword. The camel's eye's distort reality, otherwise the camel would know not to be afraid of the silly little arab with the stick.

You must control what others see. You must not fear what you think others see.

>>103230555
tell them you tried to run your business but it failed

>>103230579
i mean this with no hate but this must be the most thirdie post ive read in a while

>>103230555
damn how much did you save up and how much did you blow through that u could NEET for 5 whole years fk

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>>103230555

You could say you "play world of warcraft" or you could tell them that you wrote scripts to automate and streamline processes for 10 years

cmon guys learn how to talk

>>103230592
I am perhaps the whitest man in all of America

It was a novelty to befriend that arab

>>103230606
okay i believe you, this is definitely a firstie post

>>103230621
To be fair I'm an Appalachian, my accent might be the worst accent in the entire world for tech work beyond even pajeet accents.

Too many times in my life have I been treated as if I cant read the moment someone hear's me talk. Imagine my fear of Microsoft Teams when you get treated like that because of your accent.

>>103230573
>>103230590
I don't think a game studio would make mods for various games, and I have to imagine they'd also ask for the name of the business and try to search for it. I have absolutely no online presence currently. No Facebook, Twitter, or anything like that. I have a LinkedIn with no info on it that's been sitting idle for a few years.

>>103230594
I worked at a government org maintaining legacy code for 10 years before the gap. I lived in a small town and drove 45 minutes to my job, so my rent was very low. No spouse or kids, so overall low cost of living. The gov benefits were really good, so I didn't have to pay much for medical stuff. Also, I got laid off when Covid started, so I got extended unemployment benefits. All told, I think I got about $30-40k from unemployment. That plus everything I had saved up over 10 years was enough to do nearly fuck all for five years.

>>103230702
My tech job did not check my resume, for which I have a literal decade of fabrications. Fake everything. 100% remote job.

>>103230555
Tell them you were addicted to sucking cock, then wink at the interviewer

>>103230599
i sometimes use gaming speech in my presentations. "you guys ever played league? shit feels like that, all our minions are having troubles defending the tower that's why we have to put project x on hold and help with project y otherwise we lose the fucking tower"

>>103230840
So I am a appalachian hillbilly. I come from redneck world. The world of hard work getting you places.

So I started my attempt at entering the white collar world by saying I was a "hard worker" and "honest" because thats how you get hired in blue collar, LOL THIS DID NOT FUCKING WORK AT FUCKING ALL HAHAHAHAHAHHA

But yes, talk about video games, this is something that intelligent, thoughtful, problem solving people may actually respect. They don't want to hear about how hard of a worker you are. That counts against you in the sphere of big brain people. So say anything that implies changing variables and rapid problem solving.

Tech jobs want sponges. You have to imply a huge willingness and hunger to learn. Your hobby is learning. Yeah, you know it sounds silly and cliche but you just fucking love it. Tell them.

These are my observations.

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>>103230898
the disgust you hear in an HR lady's voice when you say you "work hard" is so insane bro

I used to fight forest fires man

>>103230908
you are easily the worst poster in this general

>>103230915
good I will continue the downward spiral you will not even believe it

finally made it to fagman
what should I expect?
how different is it from working anywhere else

>>103230929
Well basically once you exit walmart tier jobs all the silly rules go away

after that its all about performing and never showing your cards to those that matter

>>103230929
I'm thinking of making the jump to FAANG next year but I fear just getting the chance to interview is gonna be miserable. Any tips?

>>103230937
okay but hows it gonna be
what does performing MEAN
I can afford to be a no-life workaholic if it pays well, is working at faang just about time investment and handling the stress or is it an actually hard job?
>>103230962
selection process was absolutely miserable would not recommend

Anyone here have experience working at L3Harris, specifically in one of the Florida offices?

>>103230875
tf you on about im a team lead, but sometimes it's easier saying to my team "yo this team is a bunch of campers right, they won't do fucking shit until you get to their face so we HAVE to get in their face. don't wait because they won't come to you." easier to get my thoughts out.

>>103231076
Its probably mostly my accent I have a thick appalachian accent from eastern kentucky me talking at all is digging myself a hole in the eyes of smug techies

>>103231024
these are human beings and in fact kinda lazy ones

know what words are, most likely you'll have a low workload unless you're dropping a new version of some shit or something

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I hate Azure bullshit so fucking much

I have 2yoe, but the company shut down and I took a 6 month holiday.

My successful friends are telling me to just lie, say im still at the company, its all going well with 2 1/2 yoe.
They work professional careers too, but not in tech.

Would I be foolish to follow their advice? Right now my resume has zero lies in it.
but with 2yoe, a 6 month gap, and living in a remote area, I'm not getting any interviews AT ALL right now
and its not like anyone in the city will rent to a guy without a job, I'm kinda stuck here.

>>103231185
i'm so glad i dodged a career of working in .NET and just did normal unix stuff instead

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>>103230937
Can you elaborate on the showing cards to other people? I recently got out of the trades and transitioned into tech, and whilst i can program & design better than some of my contemporaries, I’m severely lacking in the communication department after working on job sites with men for the last 10 or so years. Socialising with people who don’t have the capacity to literally rip your head from your neck is such a weird & jarring experience

>>103231121
have you tried just shutting the fuck up?

unironically you guys got any good books to handle office politics? I've been reading a book created by an asperger guy and he makes some good tips but people at the office can look happy and say nice things about you BUT THEY WILL ABSOLUTELY GO FOR YOUR THROAT if it benefits them.

>>103231278
Unironically The Nichomachean Ethics by Aristotle, if you absolutely must talk. Otherwise The Rational Male is really good, especially when dealing with women & pajeets and/or managing/internalising stressors. Finally The Prince for dealing with execs & C-levels (if you’re exposed to them, otherwise don’t read this one).

>>103231235
lol i just burned myself out with C# and .NET, idk if it’s the language or if object oriented design just fucking stinks

>>103231297
i know modern day people are grifters but like please don't tell me to read kant his name literally sounds like cunt lol

>>103231276
I am both of the people you responded to.

Exactly. I keep my mouth shut as much as possible. When it comes to help, if they are above me I help a lot, if they are below me I help but only in a way that will not intimidate them or make them jealous. Have to be very careful there, any time you show your knowledge you can do this especially on the bottom floor.

>>103231337
>1337

What I mean is around your co-workers don't outsmart them, they need to think you are just treading water at whatever level they're at

Your bosses this is a different story but your co-workers thinking you're intelligent can be lethal dawg, hard to hide intelligence, so be chill and helpful enough to try and not make anyone insecure

>>103231276
>do not do more than expected
>be the first one to volunteer for everything
everyone hates doing this but it's necessary:
>NEVER EVER FIX PROBLEMS until someone brings it up, if you find a hole that you can convincingly say you didn't see it then don't bring it up. only bring it up if you have obvious line of sight.

>>103231315
don’t read, then, idgaf what you do; observe your own regression into illiteracy.

>>103231337
>>103231346
Oh, wonderful. All in good faith, as STFU is an extremely ely powerful tool, especially against maladjusted, less-grounded people. Yes, i’m a very strict adherent of rule 1 (dont outshine the master), but i’m finding repeated occurrences of being unable to follow that rule AND do my best work, without being subjected to some white collar cunt’s superego. It’s as if the clowns who work in offices are all participating in one big power trip to see who they can convince to prostrate themselves before them in order to validate their beliefs of self-importance; it’s maddening. What the fuck is wrong with both brown people, and by extension, office workers?
Again, i understand that the only winning move when interacting with cultural
marxism & indoctrinated retards is not to play, but not playing is considered an admission of guilt. These fucking animals are relentless, anon, and i’m interested in hearing what you, someone who admittedly talks way too fucking much, has to say about it, as i am a man of very few words unless necessary.

>>103231407
whatever cunt haha get it

Is it actually bad to submit resumes as pdf's instead of word files? I mean if a recruiter wants to change your resume, they're probably not worth the time to deal with right?

>>103231407
Nah I never talk unless I really fuckin need to

Just do good work and don't rock the boat, if you must rock the boat make it look like it was just going to fucking rock and it wasn't you that rocked it

You are just present while the tide rises, and you progress silently so you get a new and better position and everyone is surprised

>>103231422
....uhhh you mean to switch that around you dumbass?

>>103231368
I learned whilst suffering through OOD & UML that being able to not only define, but also uphold and remain, within the scope of your responsibilities, coupled with the ability to push back on things BECAUSE of that understanding, is one of the greatest communication skills/techniques used in this field. Which is ironic, since it’s the only form of A-B clear communication I can have without getting the whole “big brooding angry ex tradie” nonsense.

>>103231456
wouldn't change anything actually. are you ESL?

>>103231482
>ESL
>motherfucker is sending resumes as a .docx file
LMAO fuck I can't even god bless this fucking site is so dumb.

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>>103231493
You're probably just an unaware idiot, but many recruiters shill submitting resumes as docx's so they can embellish for you in a way that the client wont figure out.
>LMAO fuck I can't even god bless this fucking site is so dumb.
leave then, better yet, kill yourself

>>103231309
both are bad imo

>>103231052
I've gotten interviewed by them (not FL) and in my research they're pretty good tier in terms of pay and benefits but like any other gov adjacent company they're slow and legacy as fuck with a million hoops to jump through just to do some work
Declined the position cause the facility close to me was complete buns, 60 year old building that smelled like mildew with cubicles and furniture as old, and didn't see a single person under 50 working there. Got depressed walking to a conference room during the interview, could NOT imagine working there every day without wanting to swallow a 9mm aspirin

>>103231532
>quoting fucking peterson
dude i can't fucking with you with the zoomer retarded fucks. god damn i hope they nuke you all stupid fuck. stay unemployed stupid fuck

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I highly recommend alcoholism.

how do you handle relatives asking when will you get job?

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>>103231944
My dick twitched

Trade offer
I receive: a good salary and comfortable working conditions
You receive: about 10 actual hours of my work a week

If I apply for a job at amazon, will the interviewing staff or any of my coworkers know about the sex toys I've bought?

>>103232078
No and they also won't know if you ever said nigger on Twitch, I speak from experience

>>103232078
Enjoy working at the office five days a week

>>103232090
I am the one that makes the others want to stay home.
>>103232089
thank g-d

Wouldn't it be nicer to be pleasant rather than obnoxious?

>>103232078
>amazon
it would probably only help you if you bought a bunch of weird sex toy stuff

>apply to uber
>you use the account you use in the app
what hr roastie thought this was a good idea

>>103232276
sorry anon, it looks like you farted in the last ride you took, and it smelled bad. we have decided to move forward with other applicants

>>103232276
Actually sounds like a good idea

>>103226121
I used to hang up on them but eventually I discovered the joy of fucking with them.

>>103232460
You are giving in to your lesser impulses

>>103232557
...and that's a good thing!

I got told by two different bosses today that they "didn't know what my intentions were" and "didn't think I cared about my job"
this really fucking bothers me, I guess because I've struggled with not coming off as apathetic before.
What are the chances they were just fucking with me to cover their own asses?

>>103232618
What are the odds you're autistic and don't like talking much with your bosses

>>103232658
They must really think I'm autistic
both conversations were in-person and basically asking why I never "made my intentions clear" that I wanted to be promoted
never mind the fact that I worked my ass off and gained more OT than any other team member in my position ever has
This really bothers me but maybe I should just chalk it up to them being retarded and self-absorbed

Some dude in my team got literally fired because he was too much of a quiet autist. You have to charisma max to make it now.

if you can't act sociable and like a normie while at work then yeah you're not gonna get a job that lasts. This has always been this way

>>103232618
they probably had a 1:1 and agreed that you are a sperg. i'd look for a new job if i was you

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>2 years making 50k as a web dev
>changes over time have made it not as comfy as when I joined
>doing the same stuff as always, no longer learning anything
alright i think it's time to look for my second job bros. hopefully it's easier to find interviews than when i had no experience. i guess at least i'm not desperate this time around, so I don't have to worry too much about doom grinding applications all day

>>103232795
I'm a total shitter who's usually behind on his projects but I always get named as a top performer because people like talking to me.

>>103232811
>they probably had a 1:1 and agreed that you are a sperg
I'm starting to believe that this is almost certainly the case
>I'd look for a new job if i was you
On the contrary, they promoted my ass

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Seems like the key to make the most profit and success is making people happy first or latching on already existing ideas.

Musicians gets traction because they use samples, make references to stuff that already exist, or making a deal/collab with other studio, like doing game soundtracks.

Artists, illustrators, and animators make fanarts

Gamedevs can make clones

Whereas programmers and techworkers maximize on webslop and doing CRUD garbage till the day they die

>>103233289
>Seems like the key to make the most profit and success is making people happy
Yes

>>103233289
Huh, you're saying that humans iterate upon existing concepts and prod?

Broskis, give whatever ideas you've got


I make 280k/year remote still but this industry just fucking sucks. I'm not worried about AI and dont work too many hours but it's just a waste of life

I've got a bit over a million dollars, a Filipina gf, no dependents and I'm 31.

Undergrad is from a top 10 school but 3.0 GPA. I'm easily willing to study for 2 years or maybe more to make a switch. Toss me some recs pls

>>103233564
Start a youtube channel? Make gamedev projects? Work for the govt? I dunno I'm only 23 and have spent 5 years in compsci ended up having only 2.9 GPA and cant code for shit

>>103233628
>have spent 5 years in compsci ended up having only 2.9 GPA and cant code for shit
That's bleaker than it would have been in 2015

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should I switch my role from Cloud Engineer to UX/UI designer? I feel like I'm grow to hate code grinding more everyday and I'm autistic about button placement and user experience sometimes.

Why even bother trying to get a top tier job when you're european? Pay here is garbage anyway so if you want a good life either git gud enough to be employed in the US or settle for a chill low income life in europe

>>103233812
Europoor here.
I can confirm, it's a shit show here.
Some jobs as dev can go up to 70k€ per year, but most are around 50k€ top.
With the ever increasing cost of life, it's really tiresome.
And companies don't want to recruit nowaday, making jobhopping hard.

>>103233564
>31
>still even remember your GPA
LARP detected. You should cast fireball

>>103233898
My plan is to stay on neetbux and make a buck here and there with short contracts

>>103233926
Easy to remember, even if I didn't have to look at it for applications to masters

If your memory sux, try utwg

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>lead dev asks me what Alacritty is
>tell him it's a terminal emulator
>"what's a terminal emulator?"

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>>103224605
Fuck man. How do I get myself out of this hole?
I’m 26 and have a good job from all appearances as a software engineer. For years I’ve just felt a fucking malaise and depression. I know at some level I’m passionate about code but I just can’t remember the last time I was ever excited enough about anything to put any effort into any side projects or pursuits. Which at an intellectual level I kn ow I want to do.
I’ve done months of dopamine fasts and it just doesn’t change anything. I’m comfortable with being bored but it doesn’t make me engage or take action in any way. I keep feeling too old to achieve anything in life and ultimately know it’s my own psychology holding me back.
No amount of taking a break is going to fix me. Every effort I’ve ever done peters out in weeks.

I know there’s never going to be an answer to “snap out of it”. I know different advice is personalised. I just feel at rock bottom. I understand the cost of not doing it is higher than the cost of doing it. How do I just fucking do something with myself?

>>103224605
> talk to British recruiter
> share my experiences
> 80k for a lead position building up infra and a data analytics platform from the ground up with all that it entails for a fairly large company
> makes me jump through hoops and tells me there are 5 interview rounds
> for a measly 80k

Lol. I told him at my last mail that it must be a high salary in UK but it's quite shite for a lead / senior in the Netherlands (not even US)! Also why are there so much British recruiters? They all peddle jobs that pay salaries that are half scams.

>>103224831
Yes this is how they treat their customers. Google is only alive since people keep using their search engine and advertisers keep paying Google. Aside from their search engine everything they do is unprofitable.

Contacting any of the bigger tech companies is a massive pain in the ass with the lowest quality support imaginable. I've encountered bugs on MS Azure (within Fabric) and was completely ignored, literally impossible to get contact with MS other than automated replies. My company is paying MS probably easily over 100k a year lol, likely even more if you include all the licensing crap and other stuff that is based on MS architecture (like a CRM system that's from MS).

a decent job has 2 rounds of interviews max

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>get invited for an hr interview
>job position specifically and CRITICALLY mentions heavy experience in kafka
>no kafka on my resume

why are hr stacies like this

>>103225051
It takes more skill to pull off the overemployment hustle but it's a redflag he puts it on a resume.

>>103225519
A lot. On the communication side seniors can be complete ass since they're jaded and know that them being a social butterfly hosting meetings and being concered about end users doesn't net them a pay raise. So they just don't bother since it isn't really a harsh job requirement from their manager but the direct measurable output is.

>>103234575
It is. Maybe 3. One from HR / recruiter filter, one with actual employees, one with the manager. If you need more than that your company is failing at knowing how the hiring process works.

>>103234602
oh true, if you include the recruiter then 3

>>103225258
I'll hire you if you hold my hand during lunch break

>>103234594
I am glad I decided to become a contractor instead of being a fulltime cuck like you. Nothing beats the freedom of making good money with profitable contracts and taking time off as a please.

>>103233812
Beats me. If you want high pay you should go into contracting. Here in the Netherlands contractors ask easily around 90-120 euro per hour for dev roles and they get put on projects that are 40hrs a week. You can get to that 200k in a year this way but it just requires having your own business. Other than that, try to get a comfy government job in Europe since you can do the requests in like 8 hours a week and spend another 4-6 hours per week in meetings and that's your work week. Literally the only thing that is substantially better than the government for me atm would be big tech slave work or contracting. I make 78k a year at the Dutch gov and the work is easy (officially also only 36 hrs but in reality 12-14 hours).

I can easily go up to 90-100k at a bank but with how hard I get taxed it is not worth it. While as contractor 140k+ is definitely easily possible.

>>103233975
If you still talk about uni and GPA after claiming 280k remote and 31 you're lying. NOBODY even mentions grades or ''top placement'' of uni if you got work experience. You should also know it is dumb to go to uni for a career switch if you don't even know what specifically you want to switch to. Very few jobs explicitly require a specific university degree to perform.

>>103234612
Yes. In Europe it makes sense since it is a way companies can get around a lot of socialist labour laws that makes it very costly to have a bad hire and to have to fire. They gladly pay 100 euro per hour for a competent dev that they can hold responsible rather than hiring a full time cuck on 30 euro / hour (in reality like 55 an hour due to insurance , retirement, vacation pay / bonus). If the full time guy stops producing stuff and loafs around you have an expensive and lengthy procedure at your hands where you need to collect evidence of poor performance, bring it to a court and then you can finally lay the employee off. But typically you also need to give a window that the employee can improve his poor performance and if he does that and loaves around again... yeah this can go on for a VERY long time. It's very difficult to fire people outside mass layoffs / reorganizations in Europe (Netherlands at least). With mass layoffs it is easy to get rid of all the undesirables but it requires discussion with unions, acceptable reasons etc (a lot of paperwork and whining).

>>103234636
>contracting
In what specific field? I've heard it pays well but it's mostly web dev isn't it?

>>103234636
>If you still talk about uni and GPA after claiming 280k remote and 31 you're lying.
you're one smug piece of Euroshit lol

>>103234496
He's a lead because he doesn't waste his time on ricing.

>>103234612
>freedom
not all of us a children who live with their parents
some of us have mortgages and need a secure job

I've been on 140k€ for a time now but, how the fuck do people buy detached homes. I bought an apartment and that's paid off but, even the simplest of detached homes is +350k€ . That requires saving at least 3 years just for the initial payment. Are there people in Europe earning more than that or is it just inheritance?

Honestly it feels like it doesn't matter how much you earn, you always feel like you're being priced out of any comfy lifestyle.

>>103234877
>I've been on 140k
post taxes?

>>103234880
Gross salary, net is like 85k€

>>103234885
so you're not on 140k
I'll never understand euro and american schizos who post their gross pay as if it means anything to them or anyone else

You dont need to know anything chatgpt is already sufficient for all jobs on Earth

>>103234877
Inherited money or already being on the property ladder in a time before prices went haywifer. Many homeowners are old fucks, or at least older, and the complete clownification of urban housing is something that's quite recent in most places. I don't know if it's true wherever you are but in the places I know prices have gone up 3-5x just since the turn of the millennium

>>103233928
That's not very stable...
Take care Anon, and plan your finances well.
I really don't trust the economy for the coming years...

>>103234836
>mortgages
kek, don't stress so much if you loose your job and your home gets foreclosed fulltime cuck.

>>103234895
Gross salary provides a more standardized way to describe earnings, as it reflects the total amount before deductions like taxes. "Net pay" is a highly variable thing, such that often two people earning the same gross have a different net.

>>103231233
if you dont lie then someone who does lie will get a job before you do

it is what it is

>>103234976
did you help mom with dishes today?

>>103234990
you just described why net pay is the correct way to talk about salary retard

>>103234877
>>103234922
houses arent for living in anymore, theyre government supported speculatory assets so old people can have a pension. like bitcoin but for boomers

>>103235126
It is impossible to state an exact net salary until the end of the financial year when all taxes have been accounted for. Conversely, the exact gross is always known. This is why a less aggressive individual might see the wisdom in "I make 140 and took home 85 last year"

>>103235252
what shithole are you from, retard? Every single person pays the same taxes, socials, pension, and the same % is taken out from everyone's gross pay

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I've escaped the hell desk, escaped the NOC and now I'm a network engineer boys. Pretty much within 2 years. Time to get into some cloud shit next.

>>103235252
and if you think 140k is a better representation of your wage than the ACTUAL 85k you take home, get a rope. It just sounds like some weird insecurity thing. You do not make 140k, no where near it.

>>103235277
>Every single person pays the same taxes
In what bizarre country is this the case

>>103235292
Well that certainly isn't true for the US (stay the fuck away btw, we are full).

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>be amer*can
>make 250k
>which is actually 100k after taxes, but they still mention that 250k for some reason
>rent is 4k
>alimony is 2k
>corn syrup sloppa is 2k
>gas for my 5000hp truck is 1k
>tip for my wifes bull around 300
>blm donations 500

>>103235328
Is it actually 100k after taxes or are just trolling?

>>103235296
Have you ever heard of tax deductions and credits

>>103235341
He's just trolling because he's in a country that makes less than 40k for a senior position that requires 10 years of experience lmao.

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>be eur*poor
>make 80k
>which is actually 20k after taxes because there's arabs and pakis to feed
>rent 1k for a shoebox
>no alimony or wife because I can't afford dates
>mcdonalds meal is 30euros
>no gas cost cuz can't afford a car
>at least shittalking americhads online is free

>europe is a country

>>103235357
painfully real

>>103235282
Cloud is gay. Network engineers keep the “cloud” running. The knowledge you have working with the real world hardware will always be easier to perfect and excel in than cloud shit which is constantly changing. If I were you I would just engineermax and try to get responsibility for, example, multiple data centers and be the guy who tells the lower neteng caste what to do. And I say this as someone working for the largest data center owner in the world

>>103235482
I can tell this is good advice. It can't hurt to get Terraform and Ansible under my belt though right, you will have to do mass config via DNA and all that.

>>103231309
>be C# dev
>write entire applications in a single LINQ query
only C#GODS will know this feeling

>>103234511
do like, a LOT of mushrooms.

>>103234511
What us up with you fags?
>OH waaah I make good money and have great opportunities :( this makes me depressed bro so sad man aww man i have a great job :(((((

Kill yourself? IDK, give me your job and I'll be fine.

>>103234594
maybe they're willing to train, numbnuts

I'm coming undone.

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>>103224605
>still Monday

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aiay8I5IPB8

Take Ownership of Your Time:

•Remind yourself that the time you invest is for your future goals and happiness. This mindset can make sticking to routines feel empowering, not burdensome.
•Focus on job readiness: The more employable you feel, the closer you’ll be to moving out. Keep refining your technical and soft skills for better opportunities.
•Feeling guilty won’t undo the past, but self-compassion can fuel positive change. You deserve to feel proud of what you have accomplished.

>>103235823
>late 20s something zoomer "life hacking" his way to hypothetical happiness
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>>103235831
You really love being in this general huh?

>>103235838
You have no idea who I am.

>>103235823
stfu faggot kys

>>103235831
thanks for the reply, what would you suggest instead?

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>be bros with this one guy
>he's some sort of ascended sperg
>easily flirts with all the office ladies
>we both hate our supervisors
>start putting in apps elsewhere in company
>joke about convincing others to leave so the entire department implodes
>pretty sure we're both blacklisted from leaving because "too vital for day to day operations"
>he starts applying outside the company
>gets a decent job offer
>turns it into our management team
>they promote his stupid ass, move him out from his asshole supervisor, and give him a crazy raise
>now he's in their inner clique and is all buddy-buddy with them
>doesn't treat me any different and sympathizes with my inability to find a decent job elsewhere
>still feel mega betrayed by him
It's like he sold out. Am I in the wrong for low key hating him even though he's just doing what's in his own best interest? Also I don't think I can pull the same shit he did, management doesn't like me as much as him and they'd probably tell me to get fucked

>>103235823
> The more employable you feel, the closer you’ll be to moving out.
kek mien nigger over here radicalizing the youth

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>>103235951
way she goes bud.

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>>103235357
I make 80k and it's exactly 48k after taxes (italy)
Just kill me already

>>103234877
What's so difficult
You just need to have 20% for the initial payment (so 70k) and mortgage the rest for 30+ years
I'm a poorfag but I still bought a 220k home

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>>103236002
vote for lower taxes.

Anyone having troubles concentrating at work when work is way too fucking abstract? My boss is gone for two weeks and I'm just struggling to figure out what to do because most of my projects are just "Optimize X", "Improve Y", "Find ways to lower cycle time in Z", "Maintain operations and current day projects" (which isn't even really me and I'll answer the odd few questions I get per day pretty quickly).

I've been telling my boss and his boss I really want to work on drilling down Project X but I can't think of any gaps at all but if I go back to them and present them with nothing, I'm going to look idiotic ESPECIALLY if something gets found a few weeks later.

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>>103236076
nope those are my favorite taskings.

>>103224605
>>103235655
>the mamas and the papas
who's the one who fucked his own daughter?

>>103236090
How? I know lollol xD just slack off but fuck I have lots of time now I want to get something done but everytime I sit down I go blank.

>>103236208
im good at it. i have a lot of experience with performance conscious software.

>>103234612
Enjoy layoff next year bro!

>>103236076
not me, i generally like those tasks because it's a license to spend 1-2 hours reading and understanding code (which i enjoy), then jerk off and go to the gym while pondering upon what i read. then when i come back a week later with a detailed report of why the whole system is fucked and can't be optimized unless you completely rebuild modules x and y, or better yet, actually figure out a small optimization, i get applauded as a genius. apparently it is a rare talent to be able to read other people's code and find ways to unfuck it

>>103236090
same bro. only time i don't like it is if i'm not familiar enough with all the parts of the system, or what the original intent was.

>>103236378
My biggest problem is
>Waiting on stakeholders to give feedback on new features (always delaying)
>boss is always wanting to completely change stuff which I'm happy to oblige too but he's not really going full steam or mandating it which makes it hard to push features due to the above.
>boss asking me to do stuff the system isn't capable of or go outside the system grid, usually entertain him but sometimes it feels like he expects results on this even though I'm clearly stating it's a HUGE REACH to have these features added.
>everyone does everything differently and I don't want to be the whistleblower going "HEY THIS IS VIOLATING OUR POLICY THATS VIOLATING OUR POLICY REEE RAAA REEEE"
shit's hard, i have to pretend to be ignorant and when I'm not pretending, I get shit way above my skill level.

>>103236403
yea i think if you have an impossible boss then it's also impossible to do those tasks. generally though, i try to cover my ass by writing detailed reports about what would be required and thus putting the ball in someone else's court. but if my boss was being unreasonable or dumb, i'd just find a way to get that task off me or look for another job, or a different position within the company. ultimately you can't fix stupid, you can only limit your exposure to it.

>>103236433
I wouldn't say he's dumb and he's accepting but he has a lot on his plate and I'm quite confused on what he wants me to do sometimes. I don't think they're impossible but it's way too much. Like one task has me reviewing machine learning and AI and all that stuff and I'm like....bro - the only programming i know is vlookup on excel. I'm just trying to get him taking more charge of my work in "leading" and getting what needs to be done. I have troubles initiating that since it always feels to me
>do proof of concept
>create in test environment
>demo with stakeholders test
>?????????????????
>???????????????
>boss asks me for update
>stakeholders still testing and don't want to push to prod (always have something they want added or removed)
>tell boss
>"okay try to add to it and make sure they're happy before we push to prod"
>rinse and repeat
like man i don't mind doing these type of work but I hate when I get everything done it seems like nobody really wants it done except my boss won't drop it....

Is it a requirement for tech recruiters to ALWAYS be late to an agreed phone screen? I have 7 yoe and have interviewed for countless jobs and 90% of the time the phone screen starts at least 5 minutes late.

>>103236522
have to ruffle your feathers a little bit before the interview to see how well you can manage manners and politeness when someone is being rude.

>>103236511
>Like one task has me reviewing machine learning and AI and all that stuff and I'm like....bro - the only programming i know is vlookup on excel.

i've had one of these bosses, it drove me nuts. i'm not a ChatGPT to some boomer who is confused by new technology, i'm supposed to design and engineer shit with other professionals. imo if you get vague, useless tasks then take your sweet time doing them and finally give him some very general report on it like "the uses of AI are many and varied" word salad shit. if he's going to disrespect your intelligence with a vague busywork task that he should figure out himself or delegate properly with a plan, then disrespect it back with a vague non-committal response. but professionally, of course. best you can really do is make these people lose interest when they realize that the new toy they'd want would require actual work on their part.

>have like 20 meetings back to back
>everyone seems to be blowing a casket over every single minor thing
>have another meeting with some university jagoff that wants a big boy job
>starts bitching and moaning about how im 5 minutes late
>"mb mb"
>let him go through his entire speal while i put him on mute and go view through work facebook
thanks anon for the break.

>>103236614
>implying the hr roasties who do your phone screen do anything all day

>>103236610
luckily he doesn't push too hard but every once in a while he mentions "how is task doing?" and im like "still investigating but really doesn't look to be doable", "well haha keep investigating then" and im just like ughhhhhhhhh get the fucking hint already.

But I can't hate on him, he has my back most of the time and he hasn't fired me yet so I mean shrug. my biggest problem just seems to be getting a project from start to end, i get to the final stretch and just....it just withers away. any tips on doing those? (honestly maybe i'm just scared that if i push or change the process, it's going to be worse than current day and then I'm really up shit creek)

>>103236663
well really, your actual responsibility at any company or position is to make your most direct superior happy. as far as employment goes, i wouldn't worry about productivity and whatever your position should actually entail as long as your boss is all smiles. learning skills and wanting to do your actual job is more a self-centered desire and should be checked out when you enter company grounds

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>>103236725
i realize i was a bit cynical in my previous post. i don't know exactly what you mean by getting a project from start to end. if you are worried about rocking the boat, then it helps to present your controversial ideas as "would this be a good idea?" or something like that, and just accepting whatever your boss says

>>103229081
Wow I want to be an American

>>103224605
werid seeing a pic of my biological father on 4chan