lack of knowledge

>>103232273
i dont tho. i use macOS

>>103232273
>My religion is better than your religion

>>103232273
Windows has WSL, so I can have a nearly identical environment when I have to use it for work. MacOS is just different enough to be annoying, e.g. using BSD versions of coreutils instead of gnu. The MacOS desktop environment is also irredeemable garbage.

I don't :-)

At some point, I actually hated both Windows and macOS equally, but weirdly enough, the more I use Linux, the more I respect macOS with my hatred of Windows growing more. It's a bit hard to explain but I think you get it.

>>103232273
I generally just feel bad for windows users, but smug Mac users, who are generally distilled reddit, get under my skin. The OS itself is ok.

>>103232273
Windows has more freedoms than Macos.
Apple shit os is the definition of a proprietary walled garden.

>>103232273
THEN WHY DONT YOU MAKE AN OPERATING THAT JUST WORKS 100 PERCENT

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>>103232389
Common, anon, it's not okay to spread lies.

>>103232273
>i'm always surprised when someone who loves linux hates mac
what a doofus. there's more to linux than the technology. it allows you to use a computer without being (deeply) reemed by big gov and big corp

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>>103232273
i don't hate mac. i like mac so much i make my l00nix look like that fag os

>>103232273
if linux and macos have the same ecosystem, then it would be better if only one of them is considered important by people and improve it
or better yet, a compromise between the two, linux with macOS UI which is open source development, with focus on mac hardware, then slightly change the source code to be compatible with non mac devices, and also the price of macbook should be reduced in such a way that it increases affordability

>>103232419
>i make my l00nix look like that fag os
y tho

>>103232528
i genuinely like the mac interface.

people dont use macs or any apple products because of the shit that pops up on the screen they could change it and it would barely be relevant for anyone

>>103232273
>Why do Linux users hate macOS more than Windows?
huh? its the other way around. i use Arch and i much prefer macOS over Windows. Windows is probably the worst OS ever created. It is actually disgusting lmao.

>>103232273
I don't, i hate iToddlers though.

>>103232273
In my experience, Linux users have Microsoft more than anything in the world.

>>103232273
I never liked Windows
I learned to hate Mac OS with usage
I like Linux, I have control of my machine with it

Wait until Op realizes the staggering numbers of Linux professionals who use macs in their personal life.

>>103232273
I hate m$ more. At least Apple gave us CUPS

I use macos and linux at work, macos at home, and I genuinely pity people who have to use Windows.
Linux and macos have the same heritage, they are very similar in most ways. Windows is completely alien and weird and just feels like everything is wrong on purpose. Like all the relevant problems were already solved long ago but Microsoft devs were completely ignorant and still decided to do everything their own stupid and broken way. It's like that paper in a medical journal where someone "invented" integration and named it after themselves.
Up until relatively recently Microsoft genuinely had a philosophy of completely ignoring everything outside of Microsoft. They have since turned around but it's too late, there's too much ugly baggage that Windows can never get rid of.

>>103232273
2 tranny cultist showing their virtue signal

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jealousy breeds contempt

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>>103232273
>pretending this is a genuine thread
Linux users don't hate macOS per se but surely dislike (for the most part) centralised proprietary "features" apt to limit the user control on the machine for whatever reason, for example having apple making increasingly less straightforward the process of running unsigned applications in macOS.

>appropriate answer to this thread
Picrel, herb and hide.

>>103232273
>Why do Linux users hate macOS more than Windows?
they don't, but when they do, its because of pro-apple iFags like you gaslighting them.

>>103232273
because macOS is everything lincucks ever wanted to be but can never be.

>>103232273
jealousy

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>>103232273
idk about the rest but i worked on macos
this is how my class looked like
i fucking hate apple with a passion now

>>103234490
retard, macos doesn't use apt

>>103235395
>>103235417
>>103235425
cont.
>be me
>have to finish a project because everything is timed at s42
>IT dweebs thought its gonna be a good idea to upgrade macos
>valgrind no longer works
>have to debug everything by hand
thanks tim apple. i hate your products slightly more now

>>103235429
who cares
fagos is trash

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>>103235432
sounds like a skill issue
you wouldn't have to debug anything if you were a competent programmer to begin with

>>103235449
>you wouldn't have to debug anything if you were a competent programmer to begin with
you never wrote a line of code
and youre sub 80iq because i wrote i was at school at that time, so how could i be competent?

>>103235432
>not having a separate on-device OS agnostic dev environment.
bruh

>>103235462
contract things
we were financed by apple and thats how we ended up with appo ewaste to begin with
theyre not the only ones financing us, btw
basically the whole faang contributes to all franchises
then it depends on the country who contributes locally

>>103235452
not every student is a midwit like you
that's why they have the equivalent of training wheels for the ones who are falling behind class like debuggers and version control

>>103235481
>t. seething
have some self respect, fag
i know youre jealous
and what makes you boil over is that i shit on apple despite having lived your wet iJeet dream
at least dont ack-knowledge it. just close the tab

>>103235493
that's the saddest cope I have ever seen

>>103235539
you started with a sad homonem doe
that means youre seething
and why would you be seething?
bc youre jelly
i read you like an open book
ur boring. kys on stream or something. shove a jar up your ass

>>103235557
>t. filtered by babbys first cli command
yeah, i agree with that statement

>>103235548
you came at me with your fag eminem first like two posts ago
you're jelly you couldn't take those computers back home, that's why you resent your time at school
and jars are only used in your poordroid mobile OS, thank you very much

>>103235564
>>you're jelly you couldn't take those computers back home
>t.jamal
post hand

>>103232273
Winblows has no defenders but CrapOS is pushed constantly as if they've ever been innovative while stealing ideas from the opensource community and passing them off as their own. It's that simple.

>>103235573
https://files.catbox.moe/1tkga3.png
>Verification not required.

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>>103235587
>t.
explains alot

>>103235592
again you're just jealous of markass because he can afford a maxed out macbook pro and live way past the speed limit

>>103235626
why would i be jealous?
apple products are straight up garbage
no opencl
no cuda
bsd libs from when MJ was still white
forced obscolecence
shit build quality
shit software quality
closed ecosystem
gay ass UI
cant be customized
shit signalling
shit coreutils

apple is shit
its luxury for the masses, like gucci or ysl

>surprised
Linux users even fight amongst themselves. With no collaboration under them it's no wonder they're stuck in the 70s.
No other userbase is as divisive and destructive. To others and themselves.

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>>103235698
>linux users are terrorists
ill wear that badge with pride

>>103235651
>no opencl
>no cuda
no need when metal can do the same thing
>bsd libs from when MJ was still white
so from back when things were still good
>forced obscolecence
false and fox-news-fed tier regurgitated opinion.
there's people still using their M1s just fine (markass brownie is an example) and will continue to be able to for at least a decade more
>shit build quality
quite on the contrary
>shit software quality
best in the industry. no ads, no bullshit, works offline, native toolkits (no web-based slop), free builtin productivity suite that competes with ms office
>closed ecosystem
no such thing
>gay ass UI
not an argument
>cant be customized
more customizable than windows. you can replace the window manager completely and it's fully controllable via the keyboard only
>shit signalling
virtue signaling must be a requirement for a loonix user
>shit coreutils
way better than bloated gnu cockutils
stay jealous, chud

>>103232273
>i'm always surprised when someone who loves linux hates mac
How much of a retard can you possibly be?

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>>103235733
cope
apple is trash

>>103235755
I accept your concession

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>>103235777
none was given ;)

>>103235707
based stance, but shit meem

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>>103235772
>redditspacing
>completely unhinged
>delusional on top of that
just how we like our clients
you dont get to 2T market cap by providing good value

>>103235810
i got plebeian tastes, what can i do

>>103235429
kek

>>103232273
I don't care. fagOS sucks, Windows sucks. this is the simple strewth, cunt. seethe if you want.

>>103235807
>design flaw from 200 years ago
wao, you got me

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>>103235849
dw, theres a new one with each generation
but these are *premium design flaws anon
you gotta learn to think different

>>103235862
>clickbait articles
and honestly it's pretty cute how you moved the goal post from macos to shitting on the iphone out of desperation

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>>103235878
your riposte was "nuh-uh"
also youre a nocodeshitter
so i adjust the language to things you can understand

Apple is the worst of the 3

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>>103232273
>Why do Linux users hate macOS more than Windows?
Yesterday's performance at tomorrow's prices.

>>103233763
is this why mac users spend so much time making fun of linux users?

>>103236649
My credit (goodgoy) score is in the 800s, suck me.

>>103232273
Because macOS is even more locked down than windows, you are essentially forced into memorizing whatever the macOS team want you to if you want to actually use the os.
On linux if I don't like something about my terminal I change it and recompile

>why do linux people hate the pretentious technologically illiterate normalfag walled garden toy more than the os that can actually do things on which they grew up with?

>>103234490
You visit security settings & enable the unsigned application. What's the problem?

>>103233584
Windows NT heritage was previous Microsoft OSs + VAX/VMS. Cutler ended up at Microsoft because DEC's Prism project got canned.

>>103236811
It was already too late. For example the registry comes from 3.1.

Most people grew up with windows

>>103232273
fagOS is just a really gimped and cucked version of linux. There is no faster way to see that someone doesn't know shit about computers, than when they try to equate the two.

>>103232273
Can't be many, most of us are Windows survivors.
Macos is a *NIX too, so that's cool. Shame it has almost zero hardware support, basically only running on Apple machines.
Meanwhile, Windows is just malware.

>>103236884
Reminder that systemd is a copy of Apple's launchd, and GNOME consciously copies macos UX.
You are not using those things are you anon?

>>103236931
That's literally what half of posix means, on linux and mac there is an entire extra user spaces accessible through the terminal

>>103236884
>gimped and cucked
If you mean debloated then that's correct, although posix is plenty bloated enough.

>>103235894
>article from 2010
try harder, jeet
>your riposte was "nuh-uh"
not much else to say when your argument was pretty much false

>>103232273

windows represents balance (old windows did anyway)

linux people often end up liking mac too because their brains are polarized. linux is completely open and allows almost too much freedom and customization, whilst mac is the polar opposite, completely closed and locked down

windows is in the middle, and while yes it is closed, it still allowed alot of customization (old windows), but not too much to the point where you become overwhelmed

>>103237133
And that's exactly why gnome is the most retarded and useless DE out there.

>>103237149
Yeah "debloated" to the point it's stripped of any actual functionality.

>>103237471
>actual functionality
Go read the posix spec and tell me there is no functionality. No bingbing wahoo I guess, oh wait you can trivially implement that in posix. You just want OOTB toys installed on everyone's computer for god knows what reason

>>103232273
I don't give a shit about MacOS. It's not something I want to use and I can understand why some want to use it but I absolutely hate Apple shills especially in this board and this faggot moderator named Jay he should kill himself for being nothing more than a burden to society as a whole

>>103232273
>Why do Linux users hate macOS more than Windows?
Windows helped give us mostly open computers capable of running Linux.

MacOS gave us a bunch of collaborator trannies trying to pretend Apple hardware is capable of running Linux. When future hardware will quite obviously become impossible to reverse engineer, as all system code will be encrypted in memory. It's the Apple way.

Those who would give up liberty for a little temporary convenience are fags.

>>103237619
>windows invented the IBM PC
t. average windows user

>>103237663
Windows helped make it the open standard that it was, which then evolved into x86/UEFI. Microsoft are now powerless to close it down.

Apple will close down their hardware completely.

>>103237619
>Those who would give up liberty for a little temporary convenience are fags.
based take

>>103237733
Microsoft tried very had to kill open source, associating it with liberty is ridiculous

>>103237756
>Microsoft tried very had to kill open source
It tried to kill some interoperability with FAT&SMB and talked some smack about the GPL.

Meanwhile Apple is simply locking everything down with encryption, needing fear no interoperability at all.

Microsoft disliked freedom but unintentionally promoted it, Apple is anti-freedom and effectively destroys it.

>>103232273
Maybe if windows users spammed threads all about how I was using the wrong computer all day every day instead, I would hate them more!

Window used to be more open than macOS, so it deserved less hate. But for at least 10 years they've been desperate to turn it into a mac clone so they get equal hate now

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>>103232273
>fully posix certified
Compliance is a different story. Is POSIX polling still broken on fagOS?

>Why do Linux users hate macOS more than Windows?
Shit UI (subjectively ugly, objectively bloated), shit dev tools, shit runtime environments, shit virtualization, mediocre GPU support (depends on your workload and libraries). It looks like a 14 year old's cheap GNOME 3 rice. The colors are garish and harsh on the eyes.

I still remember the days when vendors would try to offer useful features before locking you into the platform. Modern Apple products can't add any value to my life.

>>103235557
this

>>103235557
they hated him, because he spoke the truth

>>103232308
spwp

>>103239685
that's the first post retard

Macos comes on a cpu that has a fully exposed Hardware Backdoor, no other company in the world has that

>>103239707
retard

>POSIX compliant OS
>*checks inside*
>no POSIX compliance
>only a super expensive certificate saying that it is

Why is this a thing? No one cares about UNIX or POSIX in 2012+12

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>linux users

>>103240361
where did you get this picture of me

>>103241925
saaaarrrrr

>>103240001
Really?

>>103232273
If Linux ever becomes mainstream, Linuxoids will switch to FreeBSD and flame Linux.
As for mac, they hate them because they ain't them.
Now watch the retarded bot spam the thread.

>>103232273
Because macOS, despite its many flaws, still shits on every single Desktop Linux distro.

>>103232273
Because unlike Windows you REALLY can't do shit on MacOS

>>103232419
Where can I get that themed firefox? I'm also trying to match the mac look.

>>103232273
I daily drive linux on my laptop and have a mac mini that I do browsing and non-work stuff on. It's alright.
I still prefer linux way more and honestly think windows is better than or at least equal to mac but I don't hate any of them.

>>103232273
because it's unix done right.

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>>103232273
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/qRQX9fgrI4s

>>103232273
Proprietaryshit walled garden. POSIX compliance is the mean, not the end. The end is free (as in freedom) software.

>>103244433
>The end is free (as in freedom) software.
>just give access to technology to anyone

Fuck no.

>>103244597
damn straigh

>>103235592
ah yes how i would love to be in his shoes it must be really fun, i mean if i remember correctly when he showed is office it just screamed fun

I hate Mac shills more than I hate the OS. I wish they would shut the fuck up. I would never insist you install Linux if it's a bad fit for you. I want to give you useful advice not sell you on something even if it's free. I can't understand why these corporate cock suckers insist on marketing expensive products for the most valuable company in the world without being paid to do so.

>>103233763
Naw, he was just a narcissist shyster and I'm kind of surprised none of the people that were there in the early days merked his kike ass. At least he died of AIDS and Woz is happily scooting around on Segways. He was a hell of a salesman and the early Apple ]['s were a legit good deal that revolutionized the personal computing space. Other than that: 'S'.

>>103232273
>implying redhat et all don't want to turn linux into their thing
the only way to be truly independent is to get rid of corporate backing software
no secure boot
no tpm
no systemd
no pulseaudio
no pipewire
no dbus
no polkit
no consolekit
no logind
no udev
no wayland
not even xorg is truly safe but they won't do ground breaking changes because they want to deprecate and get rid of it
fuck gnome and gtk3 btw

>>103237133
>>103237471
love or hate either one you wish but macos and gnome are nothing alike to anyone that has actually used both to any serious degree. i'd get the comparison with unity but even then it was very superficial. KDE is much closer to (gold era) Windows than GNOME is to macOS.

>>103239724
Enough! Are you autistic to bring up the backdoor in every Apple thread?

>>103238127
>Shit UI (subjectively ugly, objectively bloated), shit dev tools, shit runtime environments, shit virtualization, mediocre GPU support (depends on your workload and libraries). It looks like a 14 year old's cheap GNOME 3 rice. The colors are garish and harsh on the eyes.


You've just described Desktop Linux

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>>103247064
I feel like they have to be paid to post this if you know absolutely anything about technology it is so obvious Apple is complete dogshit, theyve introduced every single possible unnovation and set tech back years, they intentionally have pushed tech illiteracy so they can sell to a population of stupid ass people and theyve brainwashed the masses into thinking their products are superior/luxury because they look sexy and cost an insane premium despite being inferior to the competition in nearly every way.

>proprietary walled garden
>create problem sell solution, remove aux port to sell expensive wireless earbuds, sell Macbooks with unusable storage and RAM and then solder components onto the board so you have to pay to upgrade, sell a monitor but dont include a stand or mount even if you buy a separate stand, etc etc
>hold draconian control over what your users can do on proprietary software until the government literally steps in and tells you you cant

Honestly its probably not paid shills and just the fact that most of this board consists of drooling consumerists retards whose interest in tech doesnt expand beyond "buy new product". But if you buy Apple products at all you are actually stupid, it is actually the dumbest possible thing they can do, their entire ecosystem is designed to fuck you over and charge you out the ass for basic functionalities.

>>103232273
>Why do Linux users hate macOS more than Windows?
I don't, in fact if Apple sold macOS standalone, I'd buy it.

>>103232273
Windows is just broken and shitty enough that the Linux community feels they can compete with it (despite the market share consistently showing otherwise). Meanwhile, they'll never catch up to Mac OS' polish and ease of use and it frustrates them.

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>>103250820
>despite the market share consistently showing otherwise
Linux market share quadrupled in less than two years (less than 1% to 4% now), this is snowballing out of control because people realize that Linux isn't this cumbersome POS it used to be ten years ago and with people alarming everyone over recall it's going to end very very badly for microsofties.
Be it everyone going to Apple or running some Linux, I don't see windows surviving the next 5 years without ms bribing game publishers to lock down games with kernel level anti cheat and even that might be on the chopping block if something like the last cloudstrike fiasco happens again.

If I was Satya, I'd start shitting my pants right about now to not also miss the time to market for that as well.

>>103232273
>muh posix and bsd while everybody uses cocoa and other proprietary shit
>>103232308
more like the lack of options on apple hardware.

>>103250254
KDE actually is pretty similar to old windows down to the crashes and random bugs

>>103250466
>sell a monitor but dont include a stand or mount even if you buy a separate stand
you're fucking retarded

>>103232273
They don't, though. Lots of webdevs out there who use macOS side by side with Linux.

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>>103239724
rent free 24/7

>>103250466
"proprietary" and "walled garden" is redundant.

>>103232273
For people that understand computers, macOS has unintuitive workflows and guardrails because it's designed for people that don't understand computers. It also "does things I didn't ask it to do" like Windows.

This makes it extremely irritating to use.

t. linuxsperg

>>103252595
I have been using KDE for a couple of months or so now and haven't noticed any major bugs. It only crashed on me once and it was very similar to what happens when Windows Explorer crashes. It recovered from it without me really needing to do anything too. I think this meme is mostly stuck in the past.

>>103253849
cite 1 (one) example

>>103235813
>retarded newfag from reddit
>easily brainwashed because insecure, retarded and desperately trying to fit in
>thinks reddit invented paragraphs

>says others are delusional and unhinged

>>103247689

The only way to be secure is to hunt the last one of you r*ddit typers